Hour 3: The Old Man Show

Summary

Podcast Summary: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – “Hour 3: The Old Man Show” (May 6, 2026)

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Episode Overview

In this lively and nostalgia-laden third hour, Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg lean fully into their “old man show” persona, riffing on classic New York sports, upcoming playoff action, and the quirks of aging fandom. The discussion ranges from weather gripes and youth sports to the current Knicks playoff run and larger NBA hypotheticals. The trio balances tongue-in-cheek self-deprecation with rich sports commentary—delivering the full New York sports radio experience.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The “Old Man Show” & Weather Complaints

• Opening Banter: The hosts joke about how much of their content has become classic “old man” complaints, especially about spring weather in New York.
  • “We’ve really become the old man joke. Old men complaining about the weather is really too much of a staple.” – Alan (02:22)
  • Don insists his weather complaints are lifelong and not just an "old man" thing (02:30-02:39).
  • Peter argues everyone is upset about the weather, not just old guys (02:49).

Parenting, Youth Sports, and Family Stories

• Don shares updates about his kids’ busy sports schedules (04:21-04:48), highlighting how weather affects family life.
  • Declan is noted as a top catcher and hitter on his travel team; Marco looks up to him: “He’s a hell of a catcher and he’s one of the best hitters on his team. Really. Travel team. So they’ve been going around all over North Jersey.” – Don (04:33)
• The hosts riff on age and maturity: “No, we’re all 15 mentally, so what does it matter?” – Don (06:12)

Listener Calls & Movie Buffs

• Heather Babbles: A regular caller brings up Star Wars, Instagram etiquette, and does a spot-on “My Cousin Vinny” impression (06:32-08:41).

  • “You stole TR’s file. Why? He gave you his file. He has to, by law. It’s called disclosure, you D head.” – Heather Babbles (07:57)
  • The trio jokes she could do a one-woman Broadway show of the movie.

• Steve from Middle Village: Reflects on Knicks fandom, drawing parallels to Yankees history and classic teams, and credits the show for helping him stay invested. (09:00-10:39)

Knicks Playoff Run & Analysis

• Deep dive into the Knicks’ playoff momentum, comparing recent wins to legendary team efforts.
  • “The game for the game where they blew out Atlanta...reminded me...of the Frazier Willis type of game. Not that they scored as many points as they did, but this team has something.” – Steve (09:44)
• Alan and Don analyze the Knicks' newfound killer instinct: “It’s that step on their throat kind of mentality that we see where all of a sudden they’re in a flurry…that was a kill shot.” – Alan (11:13)
• Betting lines discussed: No Embiid for Philly, Knicks expected to win comfortably (-10.5 spread after the news) (12:31-12:48).

Social Media & Pop Culture Tangents

• Peter and Alan joke about Knicks players being denied entry to Madonna and Sabrina Carpenter’s Met Gala afterparty.
  • “So after the Met gala...even Nick players who tried to get in couldn't get in. And everybody ran with it because it was like, you know, one way of laughing at a team that's having success.” – Alan (13:46)
  • The team agrees this is irrelevant to actual performance but fun headline fodder.

Betting Angles & Player Focus

• The hosts toss around Knicks-Philly prop bets (14:51-16:16), ultimately preferring to ride with the Knicks rather than get conflicted with parlay outcomes.
  • “Let me just watch because...what do you do if...that three you need from him to be able to win? The one bet hurts you on the other bet.” – Don (15:50)

History & Iconic Moments

• Celebrating notable sports anniversaries:
  • 25th anniversary of “Pine Barrens” Sopranos episode (24:56-25:17)
  • 38th anniversary of the "donut-pig" NHL incident involving Jim Schoenfeld and Don Koharski (25:24-25:51)
  • Riffing on classic hockey moments, Wayne’s World references, and broadcast legends.

Ted Turner’s Legacy

• Reflecting on the life and impact of Ted Turner, who passed away at 87.
  • “Obviously an iconic figure in media and created the 24 hour news cycle. For better or for worse.” – Peter (27:37)
  • Stories about Turner managing the Braves, founding CNN, owning the Braves, Hawks, Thrashers, and World Championship Wrestling, plus personal anecdotes about his marriages and mustache (28:00-31:02).

Deep Knicks/NBA Analysis & Hypotheticals

• Caller Brian: Argues Mikal Bridges is the real key to the Knicks’ playoff hopes, both for his improving offense and crucial defense on players like Maxey (31:39-32:44).
• Alan and Peter shift into speculation about CarI Anthony Towns’ career arc, potential to join NY sports lore, and possibilities of a Giannis Antetokounmpo trade battle with Boston.
  • “If they win, guys, it would be one of the great...like, the difference between him from the end of last year to...If they were to win a championship, what he'd be. It's insane.” – Peter (35:13)
  • “And the weirdest part of it all is, I know this may sound crazy when I say it – I think he’s a more talented basketball player than Giannis.” – Peter (35:55)
  • Discussion of league-wide implications if Boston enters the Giannis sweepstakes (36:15-37:36).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On aging and fandom:
  • “I am what I am. I'm 58. What am I going to pretend? There's nothing worse than an old man pretending to be young.” – Don (03:32)
• On New York sports culture:
  • “When I first got cable, which was in 1976, the big selling point for me was you got, you got the Braves, you got, you got WGN...for a young kid, it was like all these baseball games.” – Don (29:21)
• On Knicks playoff run:
  • “You've never seen it like this, though. And that's the part that you just keep saying to yourself, is this real?...the more you see it, the more you start to believe this isn't a one-off.” – Alan (11:13)
• Humor and authenticity:
  • “The people that don't complain about weather are shut-ins that don't leave the house and don't care anyway, right? As long as they got their porn and their meals delivered, what do they care if it rains or not?” – Don (05:22)
• On iconic sports figures:
  • “Ted Turner lived his own life well. And when you got a billion...the man had a lot of time, a lot of ways to get around.” – Peter (31:24)

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Key Timestamps

• Old man weather chat and banter: 01:25–04:00
• Family and youth sports (“Declan and Marco”): 04:21–05:09
• Heather Babbles call & “My Cousin Vinny”: 06:29–08:54
• Steve’s fandom and Knicks comparison: 09:02–10:39
• Knicks playoff analysis & betting lines: 11:13–16:16
• Met Gala afterparty denial and prop bets: 13:45–16:22
• Classic sports moments (Sopranos, donut pig): 24:56–26:51
• Ted Turner discussion: 27:27–31:06
• Calls on Knicks roster/importance, Bridges, KAT, and Giannis speculation: 31:39–37:36

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Conclusion

This episode embodies the essence of NY sports talk: equal parts sports analysis, pop culture, historic callbacks, and endearing self-awareness. Don, Hahn, and Rosenberg blend knowledgeable takes with reminiscence and humor, reflecting on the Knicks’ playoff hopes while spinning tales of media legends, youthful fandom, and the ever-present drama of being a New York sports fan—whether you’re 12 or 58.

Transcript

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don La Greca]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don La Greca]

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[Alan Hahn]

You sure about the weather?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, I think it was supposed to. I don't know. I thought I saw that it was going to rain today early, but then it was going to clear up. No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Heather Babbles]

Well.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, no. It looks rainy for today and tomorrow. Friday is a great day.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Or better. And then Saturday and Sunday, Mother's Day. It is not what's hot in the streets.

[Alan Hahn]

No, not what you want.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, not if you're the kind of. You know, I know. Alan. You know, Steph's not into Mother's Day. She's out.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, I have a game that day anyway, so. You're out studio.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're a rap. It's a rumor to you.

[Alan Hahn]

But. But the. The game tonight, though, at the. At the stadium might. Might not make it, right?

[Don La Greca]

I don't know.

[Alan Hahn]

I got rain. Eight o'.

[Spike]

Clock.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just want to point out to everybody that next Thursday is. Is May 14, okay? The low on that day is still 47 I just want to. I just want to.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, it's not getting better.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, it's just.

[Alan Hahn]

Can I just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just roll right into January.

[Alan Hahn]

Can I just point out to you guys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You guys are.

[Alan Hahn]

We've really become the old man joke.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, this is real.

[Alan Hahn]

Old men complaining about the weather is really too much of a staple.

[Don La Greca]

I understand that.

[Alan Hahn]

We need to get through this.

[Don La Greca]

Even when I was 12, I didn't want it to rain.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, that's different.

[Don La Greca]

Even when I was 12 in May, I wanted to be able to go with my shorts and go play basketball.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wiffle ball out.

[Don La Greca]

I still care. Maybe I didn't complain about it because nobody wanted to listen to me. I was only 12.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Don La Greca]

But I still care.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Dad would break.

[Alan Hahn]

I just feel like we've become that show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I. Here's why I disagree with you. I believe the current weather and people's up being upset with it is across all demographics.

[Brian]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think everybody is like, seriously, am

[Alan Hahn]

I weird that I like a rainy spring day?

[Don La Greca]

Yes, very.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm weird. Okay. I don't mind a rainy spring day.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know. I would be with you if, like, other days felt like spring. The problem is yesterday was November. It's cold. Like, yeah, it's. Every day it's cold. We had one good one.

[Alan Hahn]

Look at my face. I burned up on the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

On the roof. Yesterday was one good one in which it was what, 70? We did all right.

[Alan Hahn]

It was almost.

[Don La Greca]

And now it's gonna be followed by, you know, listen, rains, rain. But, like, dude, we're hitting the second week of May. Can we get out of the freaking 60s, for God's sakes?

[Alan Hahn]

No, it's bad, all right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it's bad.

[Don La Greca]

I'm telling you, it's bad, old man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I am what I am.

[Don La Greca]

I'm 58. What am I going to pretend? There's nothing worse than an old man pretending to be young.

[Alan Hahn]

That's a good point.

[Don La Greca]

Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I got a little. What I am.

[Alan Hahn]

But how old are you?

[Don La Greca]

That's the point of the.58 you are.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Are you sure?

[Don La Greca]

Why?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because I don't believe it. No, Michael just turned 58. I mean, 53.

[Alan Hahn]

You're not 58. Right? Like, you're.

[Don La Greca]

You're kidding. 58? No, no, you stop it. Stop it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I'm not joking.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not crazy.

[Don La Greca]

Well, point is, seem.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Don La Greca]

Do you want me to be the old man at the club, pretend that I'm 25 and I'm really 58 to come over?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I would love that, by the way, Don was this. Don was this. I've been now with Don for 10 years. You were 42, you were 48. We met. You were just a little bit older than I am now. And you were the same way you were in all the weather, especially when the kids came.

[Don La Greca]

Well, yeah, because what am I doing this weekend? Is it going to be affected by the weather?

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Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, does Marco have games this weekend?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, of course he does.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How many? Six, seven games this weekend.

[Don La Greca]

Oh, he's, he's got his practice today, which is probably going to get rained out. He's got a game on Saturday.

[Alan Hahn]

When's the autograph signing?

[Don La Greca]

And then Declan, I try to be there for Declan. He's got games Saturday and Sunday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How is Declan as a ballplayer?

[Don La Greca]

He's a, he's a hell of a catcher and he's one of the best hitters on his team. Really. Travel team. So they've been going around all over North Jersey.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So. And Declan is how many years older than Marco?

[Don La Greca]

About like two and a half. So he's going to be 11 in August.

[Alan Hahn]

That's real.

[Don La Greca]

So they'll be, they'll be nine in December. So it's like two and a half.

[Alan Hahn]

So he's almost on the precipice of Little League World Series kind of levels.

[Brian]

Right.

[Don La Greca]

He could be. He's playing very well.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So. So. And that also is, I have to imagine, a real bonus for Marco to have a cousin who can ball who's two and a half years older than

[Alan Hahn]

you, set the standard.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Are they getting out and chucking it with each other?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, and I work with them. I try to work with them when I can so they overcome that. So weather affects these games. That affects what I'm going to be doing this weekend. So if you think I'm an old man, guess what? I am. Yeah, you know what?

[Peter Rosenberg]

But an old man who had a margarita today, Gentlemen.

[Don La Greca]

And the people that don't complain about weather or shut ins, that don't leave the house and don't care anyway, right? Because you know what? As long as they got their porn and they move their, their, their meals delivered, what do they care if it rains or not? These are the people I care about. These are the people that worry about what I'm doing. This is why they should be worried about themselves, man. All they care about is that their Internet is disrupting. No, as long as GrubHub doesn't go out of business.

[Peter Rosenberg]

As long. Yeah, as long as they're getting the high speed porn in their grubhub, they ain't leaving the house.

[Alan Hahn]

Whenever you wonder why I asked on such silly questions that you never know

[Peter Rosenberg]

what you're going to get.

[Alan Hahn]

You're welcome, by the way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But isn't it true, by the way, Alan? Very true. Alan, how old are you these days?

[Alan Hahn]

I don't want to admit it.

[Don La Greca]

54.

[Steve]

He's right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's right there. He's on your tail. He's chasing you down.

[Don La Greca]

I know he won't catch me, but

[Alan Hahn]

that's why I hate it. I know, because it's like, no, you can't be. Because that means I'm this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're right there, too.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't want to think that way.

[Don La Greca]

No, we're all 15 mentally, so what does it matter?

[Alan Hahn]

At least 15. I wish I acted that old.

[Don La Greca]

All right. 1-800-919-3776. No Embiid tonight for Philly as the Knicks look to take a two nothing series lead. Phone calls, 1-800-919-3776. Always fun to talk to Heather Babble.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, we love Heather Babbles.

[Alan Hahn]

Hello, Heather.

[Heather Babbles]

What's up, guys? How's everybody doing?

[Alan Hahn]

Good.

[Don La Greca]

You care about the weather, right?

[Heather Babbles]

I actually do. It's either 40 or 80. It's, like, insane.

[Don La Greca]

One of the two.

[Heather Babbles]

There's so many topics, guys, going through my head right now. I'm really going to revert back to Heather Baffles.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay, go.

[Heather Babbles]

All right, now. Okay. I was thinking of last week, and you guys were talking about. Oh, no, it was a couple days ago, May 4, and Alan is a Star wars fan, and we're a Star wars family. We got all the lightsabers in the back room in our family room, but we have all the devil's jerseys back there, too. And then I'm thinking about. You guys were talking about people who don't follow you on Instagram and Peter, I follow you, but you don't follow me. But Alan follows me.

[Alan Hahn]

What are you doing?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm so sor.

[Alan Hahn]

Go fer a father.

[Heather Babbles]

We were like besties, you know?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, now you know. Really? Now you know. Who really cares? That's a bad job by Heather. Now you know who cares, right?

[Heather Babbles]

I absolutely know. And, Don, did you just say your kids are almost nine?

[Don La Greca]

Almost nine. They're eight. Eight years, five months. Yeah. So almost nine.

[Heather Babbles]

Oh, my gosh. Like, seriously, I. It's such a cliche, but time goes by so fast. I mean, my son is. He turned 18. He's graduating high school next month. I just can't Take it and Makes me feel like I'm just getting old.

[Don La Greca]

Well, enjoy it while it lasts.

[Heather Babbles]

But the most important topic of the call. I heard you guys talking about this about an hour ago. And then I had to run in to go to the dentist and I came back out and then I called you guys. You guys were talking about file and that made me think you stole TR's file. Why? He gave you his file. He has to, by law. It's called disclosure, you D head. You can get a list of his witnesses.

[Alan Hahn]

You can talk to witnesses.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Give me a second.

[Alan Hahn]

I didn't know you didn't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, we're back.

[Heather Babbles]

They didn't teach you that either in law school.

[Alan Hahn]

She knows this movie by heart.

[Don La Greca]

It is so good, though. Perfect.

[Alan Hahn]

She could do a one woman show. No, it really is impressive on this movie. If they ever made a Broadway edition of this show. There's no one else.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's only Heather Babble.

[Alan Hahn]

There's no one else to give the role to. No one else.

[Don La Greca]

Thank you, Heather. For Steve in Middle Village. You're on ESPN New York. Hi, Steve.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Big Steve O.

[Spike]

Hey.

[Brian]

I have to follow her.

[Steve]

She's tremendous.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know she's very good.

[Alan Hahn]

What movie can you. Can you recite?

[Don La Greca]

Yes.

[Steve]

Oh, probably Silent movies, I think would be the best.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, that'd be good stuff.

[Steve]

Maybe Bust the Keaton, but I can't do all the flips. Anyway, I was calling about a couple of things that happened yesterday in the show. One is Peter, I think you said sports has to be fun. And I think all of you did it. It was after somebody, some old guy, probably older than me, and I'm 73. And he was saying, well, you know, the Knicks don't really play well and they don't pass and they don't do this.

[Don La Greca]

I had to turn it off.

[Steve]

This is the time that you. I'm not even the reason why I'm rooting for the Knicks or the following. The playoffs is your show so I can keep up with you guys. It's been wonderful. The game for the game where they blew out Atlanta reminded me. I watched parts of it. I was joking with my wife. I was going in from the den, telling what's going on. It was the only game with the Knicks that I've ever seen that reminded me of the Frazier Willis type of game. Not that they scored as many points as they did, but this team has something. This team is kind of like the 1977 Yankees. I'm an old Yankee fan. Where you felt. I felt in my gut that they're going to win the championship, any rate. That's all I have to say. Well, thank you for everything that you do.

[Don La Greca]

Thank you, Steve. Great teams do that. I mean, that's what. That's what you're fishing for, right? It's like when you go on a run that they're on the way, that they're dismantling the teams that they're playing, great teams, championship caliber teams do that. And it's going to be human nature for us to take a look at this team and constantly grade it on the curve of can they win a championship.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

And when they were down 21 against Atlanta, we talked about it that Friday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Know what?

[Don La Greca]

This doesn't look like a championship team, but now that they've won the four in a row and the way they've won it, you could say they look like a championship team. And that's the roller coaster you're on, man.

[Alan Hahn]

But you've never. I got to keep going back to. You've never seen it like this, though. And that's the part that you just keep saying to yourself, is this real? And each game goes by and you see when they break a game open and you just keep saying, like, they have that break a game open type of game now in them, and it's that step on their throat kind of mentality that we see where all of a sudden they're in a flurry and late in the. Again, that first half thing in game one really got me because that was a killer. That was a kill shot. Even up as much as they were at the half in Atlanta in game six, when they came out of the second half, there is always that, all right, are they going to come out flat? Is this suddenly going to become a bit of a game? Like, what are we going to do here? And that was another kill shot right out of the gate. They were up 61. So there's something that you're seeing that makes you keep saying, I want to see more. And that's kind of what a run is about. When you start to get a feeling for a team is that it just keeps making you say, I want to see it more. I want to keep seeing it. And the more you see it, the more you start to believe this isn't a one off. This might be what they've found in themselves. Tonight's another example. No Embiid. A game that should heavily favor you. In fact, the. The line says, so.

[Brian]

Peter.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, let me see if it's changed, by the way.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it Was the last we checked is. You got it yesterday at seven and a half. Last we checked was ten and a half after the Embiid news broke. And is it still sitting at ten and a half?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, let's see. Because the last thing I was looking at was considering betting anunoby points. But let's calm down. Ten and a half.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, so it stayed there. So the, the feeling is they should win fairly easily by double figures. This is where. Okay, prove that you're not that team that falls into complacency and can get got on a night where everybody walks in the building expecting to see a win.

[Don La Greca]

All right, Subie's a little worried about this game. He's in midtown. You're on. Don Hanna, Rosenberg. What's up?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, I do think this is a trap game.

[Steve]

I feel like Maxi is capable of

[Alan Hahn]

putting out 40 points tonight. And the Knicks, I've heard that they were denied entry to an after party at the. Yeah, Madonna and Sabrina Carpenter, they tried to walk in when it was. It was invite only. So it's a silly, cheesy headline. It's not anything to worry about as a fan.

[Steve]

Well, I feel like they won't be

[Alan Hahn]

as focused if that's the case. And I don't. They won't be as focused. Oh, come on, Subi. That's a silly thing. Like they're not being in.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Are you being serious?

[Alan Hahn]

He's not being silly. He's bringing something up. That is a silly social media thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So what is this?

[Don La Greca]

I didn't even hear.

[Alan Hahn]

So after the Met gala, which was, of course, during game one, Madonna and Sabrina Carpenter had an invite only party at one of the clubs here in the city. And, you know, a couple of Nick players tried to see if they could get in and they couldn't because it was an invite only. And so it became, of course, a story for Page Six because it's like it was such an exclusive party that even Nick players who tried to get in couldn't get in. And everybody ran with it because it was like, you know, one way of laughing at a team that's having success. So Subie wanted to bring it up because he thought it was relevant to tonight's game.

[Don La Greca]

Well, it would only be relevant if you're going to tell me that their head wasn't in the series. They wanted to go out and party after game one.

[Alan Hahn]

Guy.

[Don La Greca]

They're. They're young NBA players in New York City with a day off. The next day they're going to go out.

[Steve]

It.

[Alan Hahn]

It's Whatever.

[Don La Greca]

They're going to go out.

[Alan Hahn]

But the, the other part that he brought up, Maxi's going to go for 40. I'm one worried maxi will go for 40 is the funniest line to me, guys. Maxi's gonna probably go for 30 or 40 tonight. In fact, you might want to take Maxi points.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, the problem is, is. Is. Let me see.

[Alan Hahn]

Because it's probably not going to be a worthwhile bet.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's the problem.

[Alan Hahn]

He's gonna go for 30 or 40. What I'm telling you is no one else can go for 25 or more. That's the thing you have to worry about. Not Maxi.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Maxi is for 25 or more. Yeah, he's minus 196, meaning he's expected to go for 25. Now when he gets to over 30, he's at plus 142, which is still a low favorite. That's just a little tad. Now if you want to know where their money would be. 35 and over. He's at plus 350. You like that? All right. You could see him for 38, 40. Where else they gonna go?

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, I wouldn't put a lot beat sprinkled. It's like it's lunch. You know what I mean?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just want. Let's just. Let me just be smart and stay with my.

[Alan Hahn]

You're just gonna my Knick seven and a half. Don't tempt it, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I'm in a good spot. Because you don't want to end up where you're going. Hey, I'm rooting for the Knicks to cover, but I'm rooting for Maxi to get the point.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, you don't like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't like doing. Let me just watch because what do

[Don La Greca]

you do if that, that, that three you need from him to be able to win? The one bet hurts you on the other bet.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, you're conflicted.

[Don La Greca]

Don't even mess.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If I was going to do it the way the one I liked was, was OG for 25 or more at 480. I liked OG to have a game tonight.

[Don La Greca]

Oh, well, that would not be.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And at least that way you can root the same direction.

[Alan Hahn]

If OG was one of the players that was not allowed in and now he's a little pissed off.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's it. Oh, and he's a big Carpenter fan.

[Alan Hahn]

Maybe I didn't score enough points. Maybe I need to go for 40 tonight. Now will you let me in?

[Don La Greca]

Boom.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you, Sabrina.

[Don La Greca]

Big night for Spike. And he's your Friend of the show from St. Pete and not just a big night because of the Knicks, but I know you've been going through some stuff and you had a big day, so congratulations, Spike.

[Alan Hahn]

Very happy for you.

[Spike]

Oh man, thanks boys. You meant a lot to me. I said it a number of times. You helped me get through it and I, I said it to you yesterday or the day before, boys. I said that I wouldn't be surprised if they took Embiid out because I kiss about Grady for some happens a little levity to this, you know, more serious things like. But, but I really, I can't come up with the points. We went through this exercise yesterday. I'll give 45 to Maxi, I'll give 25 to Edgecom. I'll do 15 to Quentin Grimes. I'll give 25 to Paul Jordan. The Knicks have been averaging what watch 123.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. So you're saying it's not going to be enough points is that's what, that's what you're saying?

[Spike]

No, don't just don't we. I grew up in Brooklyn. They called don't play Terrass basketball. Don't play that kind of game. And Knicks can play it, but they're going to throw every one of them guards at these guys will own the boards and they're going to have no one out there more than 6 foot 8. I don't see how they get enough points. I mean, I really don't.

[Alan Hahn]

They were able to do it despite they were able to Game 2 against Boston. That was all because of the threes. You cannot let them get going from three. That's something we've seen opponents do in this building. It must be a good shooting gym because some teams come in here and they light it up especially early.

[Spike]

The Garden's a great shooting gym. You've always told me that. One thing I, I watched that Boston game again and, and they fell asleep. Man, they just took that game for Grant and I. Peter, one last thing. I can't get over Missoula, that starting lineup. I don't want to make you feel bad. I, I, it's almost like I gotta look at the gambling on the game. I really can't understand what was going on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I hear you.

[Spike]

Thanks. Thanks for everything. Thanks, Spike.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're the man.

[Don La Greca]

Spike's been going through some stuff, but he rang the bell today.

[Alan Hahn]

Congratulations, Spike.

[Don La Greca]

Congratulations on that. And we love that an old time Nick fan is going through this and having fun. And he made some very cogent points too.

[Alan Hahn]

And in that game Too. Just to point it out, I know we're late. I'm sorry, Tom.

[Don La Greca]

No, no,

[Alan Hahn]

they, The Sixers went 19 of 39 from three.

[Don La Greca]

Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

And I mean, everybody was making three. Grimes had two, Edgecomb went six for 10. There's the guy, I'm telling you, worry about him because he sneaks up on you. Maxi hit five. You know, like that's basically it. Paul George only had two, but it was, it was. Maxi went for, went for 29. Edgecombe went for 30. And that back court really was, you know, a big difference. And the Celtics only got to 97 points because they couldn't make a three. They were 13 of 50. They took 50 threes.

[Don La Greca]

Crazy.

[Alan Hahn]

And they only got hit 13 of them. That is a recipe for disaster. I don't believe the Knicks are going to play that way at all.

[Don La Greca]

All right, more Your calls at 1-800-919-3776. It's a little early, but it is the last call.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Crew.

[Alan Hahn]

Wow.

[Don La Greca]

Because we've got an early edition of ENN coming up at 5:45 because we got to get out at 6. Why? Because Pat O' Keefe takes over with the Nick pregame with the knicks on at 7 o'. Clock. And we've got the Mets on 10:50 tonight. We want to thank them for that. And that's the way it's going to be for the rest of the run here for the Knicks, Don on a Roseberg. We're live at stout 35th. Still time to swing by. We're upstairs getting ready for Game 6. Sixers, Knicks. Don Ana Rosenberg, ESPN New York

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don La Greca]

Programming alert. Game 2 of the Knicks and Sixers will immediately follow us right here on 880, ESPN New York. And all games can be streamed on the ESPN New York app. Today's Mets Rockies game can be heard on 1050. And that will be at 8:30. Couple of little notes before we get back to the calls. And 1-800-919-3776. You know what aired 25 years ago today? May 6, 2001. Hold on.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, 2001.

[Don La Greca]

Okay, 25 years ago.

[Alan Hahn]

25 years ago today, what aired?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, give me. Seinfeld finale.

[Don La Greca]

No, that was 98. You were three years off. No, the. The Pine Barons episode of the Sopranos.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Many 25 years ago.

[Alan Hahn]

It's just crazy to think.

[Don La Greca]

And Alan will appreciate this one. 38 years ago today was the eating

[Alan Hahn]

of the donut pig. Shoney, right?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah. Jim Schoenfeld, and it was Don Kolharsk.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, what a moment. Didn't he. Did he also take the bench?

[Don La Greca]

No, that was for torque.

[Alan Hahn]

That was for torque. Did the bench like. But, but this was him chasing him. It was at Meadowlands, right? Yeah. Chasing him into that tunnel.

[Don La Greca]

And he's young and, and, and Kulharski trips. He thought that Shoenfeld had pushed him.

[Alan Hahn]

That's what it was.

[Don La Greca]

They had to have a hearing and it was a big deal. But if you look at the video clip, Peter, ABC Channel 7 had a camera right at the end of the tunnel. So you see all this going on and you see a very, very young Larry Brooks, who was working for the Devils at the time, trying to break it up. And it's pretty hilarious. So anytime I can think of Larry Brooks, it's always a good day. But I remember going to those games and Peter knows this. I think we've talked about it on the air before. That's the reason in Wayne's world that it's Officer Kulharski, because Mike Myers, a big hockey fan, and that was even a big deal up in Canada, even though it was the Bruins and the Devils at the time.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So it's just one of those things that spreads through the donut shop. Officer Kharski didn't put that.

[Alan Hahn]

All that was, that was a viral moment before there was such a thing because it, it went, it carried everywhere and it just became. It was so legendary.

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[Alan Hahn]

Don Cherry, like, must have played that a million times.

[Don La Greca]

May 6, 1988, Schonfeld was the score suspended. Lou Lamarello got a court order to stop the suspension. The officials protested and wouldn't officiate the next game. Didn't they have like replacement officials that were in like yellow slickers? So you can. It was pretty. Pretty. The most embarrassing thing is the presidents before the NHL had commissioners. John Ziegler, who was.

[Alan Hahn]

Didn't know what to do.

[Don La Greca]

Didn't know what he was doing. He was vacationing in like.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

In Switzerland or something during the conference final.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

You know, why would he be needed.

[Alan Hahn]

Why would you need to be in the country for playoffs? Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

Now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, because the N is very short today. I don't know how much time we'll have, but certainly worth note today that we lost ted Turner at 87 years old.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Obviously an iconic figure in media and created the 24 hour news cycle. For better or for worse.

[Don La Greca]

CNN actually managed the Braves, which is a little bit amazing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Own.

[Alan Hahn]

He owned them, but he also owned them.

[Don La Greca]

I decided to manage him.

[Alan Hahn]

But then, then he put the uniform on. He was in the dugout.

[Peter Rosenberg]

When was that?

[Alan Hahn]

That was early on.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah. Was. He was. I think he was married to Jane Fond at the time. It's probably late 80s. Wait, wait.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How long are we talking?

[Don La Greca]

I might have.

[Alan Hahn]

Was it just a game?

[Spike]

It was.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. I'll look it up because I remember it. Because I remember the photo of him in the uniform. Yeah, it was, he was, he was, he was something.

[Don La Greca]

He was nutty.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So. So he had, he had the Braves one game. He had the Braves, He. He had the hawks. It was 77 that he, that he did it. He had the Braves, he had the Hawks. Of course, he started all the time.

[Alan Hahn]

It was after a sick. I'm sorry. It was after a 16 game losing streak. He stepped into the dugout. They still lost the game. And then Major League baseball then barred him from it, saying league rules prohibit owners from serving as manager. By the way, he would have done it. He would have kept doing it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That is hilarious.

[Alan Hahn]

He would have kept doing it. You can't do that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't know that piece.

[Alan Hahn]

And George said, well, I guess I can't do It, Yeah, I know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I had tried it out, but. But I mean, first of all, there's so much stuff with him connected to sports because the tbs, Braves thing and Hawks thing for a while was such a big deal. The Superstation, well. Oh, and wgn.

[Alan Hahn]

Yep.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So all of that stuff is how

[Alan Hahn]

much did you earn in New York? And now again, you were young. I was in D.C. yeah, but Don, do you remember, I don't know New Jersey, but I know in Long Island I would. I got Braves game. Braves games.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All the time. No, every game.

[Alan Hahn]

And I. Every now and then you see the Cubs.

[Don La Greca]

Yep.

[Alan Hahn]

Like it was very regular.

[Peter Rosenberg]

WGN showed a lot of Cubs games.

[Don La Greca]

When I first got cable, which was in 1976, the big selling point for me was you got, you got the Braves, you got, you got wgn. So they got the Cubs and the White Sox at times. Wsbk, you got the Red Sox games. It was like for a young kid, it was like all these baseball games.

[Alan Hahn]

It's like today you had all these

[Don La Greca]

sports and I believe I got the timeline right here. He also owned the Atlanta Thrashers when they first came into the league and gave Scott Farrell the play by play on radio for the Thrashers, which was not nothing. I love Scott, but it was different. Wasn't your traditional play by play guy, but he owned it. He did it for, I want to say at least one. Their first season or maybe their second season. I love, I love Scott, but he was given any. And he did it as Scott.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, he didn't change anything.

[Don La Greca]

He didn't change a thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't, I didn't know that.

[Don La Greca]

I got an iron.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Him and an iron.

[Don La Greca]

Him and an iron. I got to be a new man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I got to look that up on YouTube. I never seen that. I never heard it. I. He also of course owned World Championship Wrestling.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Famously battled with Vince McMahon back and forth in the wrestling business. Called Vince McMahon one day after he bought WCW and said, well, Vince, I'm in the wrestling business. And Vince was like, oh, congratulations, that's great because I'm in the entertainment business

[Alan Hahn]

and, and great line.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They battled back and forth for a while and of course Vince eventually won out and bought WCW from, from Ted Turner. But he super impactful in terms of sports, pro wrestling, entertainment in general.

[Alan Hahn]

And you know what else?

[Peter Rosenberg]

87 years old, Michael still wouldn't take it.

[Alan Hahn]

You know what else?

[Don La Greca]

No.

[Alan Hahn]

A fantastic mustache. Oh, that, that, that not many could pull off. But it worked for him.

[Don La Greca]

And, and not for nothing, Jane fond pull.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Jane Fonda as well.

[Alan Hahn]

It did work.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Three. Three wives. I read a quote from him earlier today. At one point, several years ago, he had four girlfriends. And at one time. And when he was asked about it, he was like, yeah, four girlfriends. It's complicated, but still not as hard as marriage to one woman. Again, Ted Turner lived his own life well. And when you got a billion four girlfriends on the table, the man had a lot of time, a lot of ways to get around.

[Don La Greca]

Probably scaled it down, the four.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

That's the fourth they knew about.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, well, that's on the record.

[Alan Hahn]

You know what I mean? Yeah, on the record.

[Don La Greca]

Let's go to Brian in New Jersey. You're on espn, New York. What's up, Brian?

[Alan Hahn]

Hey, gents.

[Brian]

This one's. This one's mostly for Hans, and he's the big basketball guy. But you guys were talking with Monica earlier about sort of who. Who's the key for this whole thing. And she kind of went to Jalen and to og. I gotta disagree with that. I think the key for this whole thing is Mikhail Bridges. He was brought here to be the cherry on top, to sort of snowball this thing, to push us over the top. The only difference in the last couple games, besides them moving the ball more, he is not an absolute albatross on the court anymore. I mean, his plus minus was terrible. You could, you know that he was. They were putting him on the bench three minutes into the first quarter. You couldn't even play the guy. They brought him in to give him 15 to 17 and played lockdown defense. And there were times this year he wasn't playing defense at all. Looked like he was just kind of walking around, running around, not really doing anything. Now all of a sudden, he's locking guys down, his shots falling. And the Knicks are winning by 40 instead of winning by 12 or 10 or 8. Because he's giving them what they were, what he was supposed to give them from day one. I think he's the guy. It's a good back to being just terrible. The Knicks won't win.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, I don't think he'll go back to being terrible. I think he. You know, again, he has, like, these cycles where he's up and down, but when he's in a good. When he's in a good one. And I think the offense is allowing him to have that where he feels good. I also think it's a good call by you because. And you didn't even mention this side of the ball to me. His defense is critical. He's the one that's got to handle Maxi as much as possible from the start of the game. He's the one that's got to run through all the screens and try to stay with one of the fastest players in the league. This is not an easy match for him. But in game one, he was good. Now that's got to keep going. So that's why he's important. But if I get a vote, the guy I thought Monica was going to say, and I actually thought the caller was going to say as well.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

You take Embiid out of the equation, guess who's the best big men in the series again? Sounds you would think so they don't have anybody that can handle him. And so once again, car Anthony Towns has to deal with smaller players trying to get physical with him, trying to get nasty, trying to, you know, get him off his game, rattle him, whatever it is. He's got to be the guy that we saw in the Atlanta series as well. He's got to continue to be that guy because he doesn't have to handle Embiid down at the other end.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was going to say it frees you up a bit, little bit mentally to know you're not going down the

[Alan Hahn]

other end, having to worry about not getting to foul trouble. And no, now all you got to do is whoever's guarding you win it. Win that, win that matchup. And that's why I still think Towns is a very. Is the most important player now for the rest of the series.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I really think I'm on to something.

[Alan Hahn]

Or at least tonight I should say

[Peter Rosenberg]

with this, how fascinating the potential story arc of Carl Anthony Towns is. I really do think.

[Alan Hahn]

Were you the one that said it like, is he going to go from being a guy that people were almost like running out of town to becoming a hero of the town?

[Peter Rosenberg]

He could either go weeks ago.

[Don La Greca]

No, no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was a while back.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because I was like, think about it. The line was, I said if he could pull it together and stay focused for an entire playoff run, he goes into all time Nick lore.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Or he could end up being this guy that's like. I remember Carl Anthony Towns. Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

That guy was never serious.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But he's got everything going for him. First of all, his game is just unbelievable. His level of talent is among the highest in the league.

[Alan Hahn]

The skill level he has skill level.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then on of top, top of that, he has these personal ties. He's Dominican kid from New Jersey. There's all these things that are culturally so tied to New York. If they w. If they win, guys, it would be one of the great. Like, the difference between him from the end of last year to. If they were to win a championship, what he'd be. It's insane.

[Don La Greca]

And not just a nick lure, but just like his career, like you said, the bill. He probably is the piece that they would have to move to Milwaukee to get Giannis. So that would be, again, traded like he was from Minnesota to New York of a guy that can't seem to get it done in Minnesota, couldn't get it done in New York. Now he's that guy that can't get it done. You can't win a title with Cat. That. That would be the label on him, and there'd be enough evidence to say, you know, would he ever get a chance to do it? And Milwaukee would obviously be in a rebuild, so he wouldn't be able to have a chance to kind of turn that around immediately.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And the part is. And the weirdest part of it all is, I know this may sound crazy when I say it, but just like, hear me out, say it. I think he's a more talented basketball player than Giannis. Ano I do. He is a more skilled player to me than Giannis.

[Alan Hahn]

Just the shooting as well.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He can step back and shoot it from anywhere. Now, obviously, what Giannis brings to you in terms of power, as long as Giannis is healthy and keeps that explosiveness for the next few years, he is such a dominant player that he's just.

[Alan Hahn]

He's an MVP finalist for seven years.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Cat, from a talent standpoint, is special.

[Don La Greca]

Now, there's no reason to bring this up, but since it's already on the table.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, boy.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, no. All right.

[Don La Greca]

Even throwing Giannis out there is a possibility. You know, you've got. You don't think Boston's going to throw

[Alan Hahn]

their hat in the ring, by the way. That's becoming a thing, right?

[Don La Greca]

So now, all of a sudden, your pivot isn't as automatic as we thought a few months ago.

[Alan Hahn]

And it's also something you'd have to really be worried about, because if Boston tries to. It thinks they can make a move in that way and get him there, not only is it, okay, you didn't get him, but your biggest rival did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait, but that means. That means getting rid of one of them.

[Don La Greca]

Well, probably Brown.

[Alan Hahn]

Jay Will said, like, because. And Wendy pointed this out, too. Jaylen Brown, this summer, has the opportunity to sign another extension. If he says, I don't want to, I'm not ready to, like, commit full time here. It makes it really, really easy for Boston to say, all right, well, we're not going to wait on you then. And if you're in Milwaukee, who are you getting better than that you're not in a trade for Giannis. So it, it does seem like something that, yeah, again, this is all, you know, hypothetical, but it is something that could be on the table. And Giannis is a guy that, you know, would feel away about how. Well, I wanted to go to New York. They didn't want me. I get to see them four times a year. I'm not going to forget that and that, you know, so that's, there's a lot of there that you have to think about, but it doesn't matter if you get a ring.

[Don La Greca]

Hypothetical. Something we don't have to worry about, but we do have to concern ourselves with is enn.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, you bet your ass.

[Don La Greca]

Because it is. Coming up next, Peter, and you know,

[Peter Rosenberg]

there's no ENN like a 550 right before a 6 o' clock nick playoff makes.

[Alan Hahn]

Makes you lean forward more. Listen, he did lean forward.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, sure.

[Alan Hahn]

You leaned back.

[Don La Greca]

I leaned back just because I wanted to get more comfortable. Don Ana Rosenberg, espn.

[Alan Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter. Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.

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