Hour 3: Towns' Eagles Jacket

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg: Hour 3 – Towns' Eagles Jacket

Release Date: January 16, 2025
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Title: Hour 3: Towns' Eagles Jacket

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1. NHL Focus: Rangers' Upcoming Challenges

The episode begins with a deep dive into the New York Rangers' impending tough matchups in the NHL. Peter Rosenberg (PR) outlines the Rangers' schedule, highlighting their upcoming games against powerhouse teams like Utah, Colorado, and Columbus. He emphasizes the significance of accumulating points in these challenging encounters to avoid a steep decline in their standings.

Peter Rosenberg:
"...Utah, that's won two of their last 10. You come home with five points out of a possible six. You take that every day of the week..."
[00:16]

Alan Hahn (AH) discusses Utah’s poor home performance, attributing it to the arena's unsuitable setup for hockey and the obstructed views from cheaper seats. He notes Utah's contrasting road performance, which benefits teams like the Rangers who typically travel well.

Alan Hahn:
"Is there a reason why Utah sucks at home?... they've only won six games at home this year. They're much better on the road."
[02:26]

2. Contested Atmosphere at Utah Games

PR and AH explore the intense atmosphere at Utah games, noting the significant presence of New York Rangers fans even in Denver. This influx contributes to the Rangers' energized performances on the road.

Peter Rosenberg:
"...I could hear Alex calling the game in Denver, and I could hear him say, score... because there's so many Ranger fans in Denver."
[03:25]

AH adds that Utah’s young team comprises many players transitioned from Arizona, struggling to adapt to larger venues like Utah's arena. The hosts discuss how the overwhelming crowd can become a double-edged sword, particularly when the team is struggling on power plays, leading to increased anxiety and frustration among fans and players alike.

3. Jalen Brunson's Eagles Jersey Controversy

A significant portion of the episode centers around Jalen Brunson, a Knicks player, wearing a Philadelphia Eagles jersey while sitting on the bench during a nationally televised game. This action sparked debate among fans and commentators about team loyalty and professionalism.

Alan Hahn:
"Jalen Brunson didn't play last night for the Knicks, so he's on the bench. In the first half, he was wearing a Philadelphia Eagles..."
[11:10]

The hosts discuss criticisms from media personalities like Dave Rothenberg and Chris Canty, who argue that Brunson's display of allegiance to an opposing NFL team disrespects Knicks fans and the organization. PR defends Brunson by suggesting that fans should not overreact, pointing out that individual players have the freedom to support their personal favorite teams.

Peter Rosenberg:
"...brushing it off as if, he's rubbing it in your face. What do you want him to do? Wear a Giant jersey?"
[15:43]

AH counters by emphasizing the importance of team representation, noting that Knicks fans expect players to embody team unity, which Brunson's action seemingly undermines.

Alan Hahn:
"You're an Eagles fan. You don't have to flaunt it and prance in front of a New York fan base with this garbage on."
[13:24]

The discussion delves into the broader issue of athletes balancing personal fandom with professional responsibilities, ultimately advocating for respect and team loyalty over personal preferences.

4. NFL Playoffs Predictions

Transitioning to football, the hosts analyze the upcoming divisional round, particularly focusing on the Baltimore vs. Buffalo game. PR confidently predicts the winner of this matchup will advance to the Super Bowl, expressing skepticism about the Kansas City Chiefs’ continued dominance.

Peter Rosenberg:
"I think the winner of that game wins the Super Bowl."
[06:37]

AH debates this stance, teasing PR about his prediction confidence and revealing his own pick for the Ravens to win, which PR correlates with understanding AH's analytical approach.

Alan Hahn:
"So you just told me who you're picking."
[09:14]

The conversation also touches on other teams like the Detroit Lions and their potential underdog success, with PR expressing personal favoritism towards teams like the Lions and Vikings, although acknowledging the unpredictability of the playoffs.

5. Pete Alonso’s Contract Negotiations with the Mets

The discussion shifts to baseball, specifically Pete Alonso's contract negotiations with the New York Mets. PR and AH discuss the potential for Alonso to secure a lucrative four-year deal, evaluating his performance and value to the team.

Caller (Brody):
"I know it's a bunch. He could be a DH if they do get Vlad. I just feel like we're selling him a little short."
[22:55]

Peter Rosenberg:
"I think they'd probably rather do it for three years than four."
[23:48]

AH underscores the financial and strategic considerations the Mets management faces, balancing Alonso’s contributions with budget constraints. He commends Mets' GM Scott Boras for maintaining a business-driven approach, ensuring that contract offers align with the team's fiscal strategy without allowing emotions to drive decisions.

Alan Hahn:
"...you don't write checks with emotion. Can't do it. Not in business."
[24:35]

6. Celebrity Fan List Segment

A recurring segment features the hosts compiling lists of the biggest celebrity fans for local New York sports teams across the major leagues. PR shares his list from the previous day, which includes notable figures like Billy Crystal and Spike Lee. The segment sparks a friendly debate between AH and PR over the accuracy and recognition of the chosen celebrities.

Alan Hahn:
"So I'm not going to say let's. The easiest example to give you would be like, for instance, Billy Crystal. The Yankees."
[37:42]

Peter Rosenberg:
"But I really think Spike Lee is more associated."
[43:15]

The hosts exchange stories and anecdotes about these celebrities’ genuine support for their teams, highlighting moments where figures like Larry David and Ben Stiller have actively engaged with the teams, thereby validating their inclusion on the list.

7. Closing Remarks and Upcoming Topics

As the episode wraps up, the hosts tease future discussions, including an hour dedicated to Aaron Rodgers' potential future with the New York Jets and his comments on team management. Don La Greca (Don) also mentions the upcoming appearance of PR’s newborn daughter, Natalie, affirming that she is doing well.

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Notable Quotes

• Peter Rosenberg:
  "...Utah, that's won two of their last 10. You come home with five points out of a possible six."
  [00:16]

• Alan Hahn:
  "Is there a reason why Utah sucks at home?... they've only won six games at home this year."
  [02:26]

• Alan Hahn:
  "Jalen Brunson didn't play last night for the Knicks, so he's on the bench. In the first half, he was wearing a Philadelphia Eagles..."
  [11:10]

• Peter Rosenberg:
  "I think the winner of that game wins the Super Bowl."
  [06:37]

• Alan Hahn:
  "You're an Eagles fan. You don't have to flaunt it and prance in front of a New York fan base with this garbage on."
  [13:24]

• Peter Rosenberg:
  "He's rubbing it in your face. What do you want him to do? Wear a Giant jersey?"
  [15:43]

• Alan Hahn:
  "...you don't write checks with emotion. Can't do it. Not in business."
  [24:35]

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This episode of “Don, Hahn & Rosenberg” offers insightful discussions on a range of sports topics, from NHL strategies and team dynamics to controversies surrounding athlete behavior and contract negotiations in MLB. The hosts balance their analysis with engaging banter and relatable anecdotes, providing listeners with a comprehensive overview of current sports narratives in New York and beyond.

Transcript

[Don Hahn]

This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That sounds like heaven to me.

[Don Hahn]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers, Don Han, Rosenberg.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Congratulations to Peter. He has got a brand new baby girl. He's gonna be joining us tomorrow to discuss that and announce the name, which we know we're not gonna tell you because he should be the one that tells you and give you all the details of what was a long, intense labor. So Natalie's doing okay. Looks like Pete Alonso is not coming back. The Mets have pivoted. The Knicks had a kind of win loss moment, depending on who you talk to. Rangers have a huge game tonight. Alan, too. I don't want to give them short drift at all because they gotta be Utah. All right? And the reason I say that is because you go out west to take on Vegas, who's the best team in the NHL? Colorado, who's an outstanding team that does underachieve, but they're getting hot right now. And then Utah, that's won two of their last 10. You come home with five points out of a possible six. You take that, you take that every day of the week. And then you take on a Columbus team on Saturday that has that last playoff spot as we speak in the Eastern Conference. You lose tonight, don't earn a point, you come back with just three of a possible six. It's a huge step back. They've got to wipe the floor with Utah and then take care of business against Columbus on Saturday and then Montreal on Sunday. NHL didn't do the Rangers any favors. Three games in four nights in three.

[Alan Hahn]

Different cities in the west coast too.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Starting in Utah and then having a. They're going to have to fly home tonight because, you know, they don't want to waste their entire off day in the air and then have to play on Saturday night against Columbus. So that's on the table. So there's a lot to discuss.

[Alan Hahn]

We have a lot to discuss. Is there a reason why Utah sucks at home? Because that building now, you know, they play where the Jazz play. That is not made for hockey. Like we see this a lot of times. They put the rink in and it's just oddly set up. They have a whole section now where it's like $2 seats and you get a hot dog and I think a bottle of water along with it, a $2, $2.50, whatever it is. And because it's obstructed view, you don't see one net. But they want you to come and they fill it up because people are just kind of excited to have the hockey team there, but they've only won six games at home this year. They're much better on the road. Utah is so, you know, first visit from the New York Rangers. New York teams generally do travel well.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, they do.

[Alan Hahn]

Will there be a contingent of New York people that will come to this game? And will the Rangers hear some. Some cheers on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, it is amazing to me, the amount of fans. You see it with the Knicks.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, my God, it's nuts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, let's say you're half listening, because obviously you're watching. You'll see it. But there was a moment, because I'll listen to the game, but I also have the game on television, but because of the delay, sometimes it makes it tough to kind of follow. So I'm watching the game, and I've got the radio on my headset, but I don't have the headsets on. I have them around my neck. I'm listening to Sam and Joe on the tv. I hear cheering. Like, I could hear. It was Alex calling the game in Denver, and I could hear him say, score. And Foust is a professional, so it's not like he's gonna go over the top for the other team, but he gives. He gives a really good call no matter who scores.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So for that split second, you're not sure who scored, because I'm watching the game and it's in delay, and you hear a cheer. So the assumption is that the Avalanche scored, but then you hear no horn. And then he goes into his description that whoever scored, I guess it was Carrick, shorthanded. And because you. There's so many Ranger fans in Denver.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, and Utah, I'm sure there's people. Iowa will go. Well, we'll go. We'll go to the game, then we'll ski over the weekend. Ryan Smith has done a great job in Utah of getting those people into hockey. They're starving for hockey up there. That building's filled, and I think that's the problem.

[Alan Hahn]

Perfect market for them.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Utah is still a very young team. All those guys, for the most part, came over from Arizona, where they were forced to play at Mullet arena in Arizona State University's rink. It held 5,000 people. Yeah, I called the game there.

[Alan Hahn]

What was that? Was it great?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, it was great because I was basically in the lower bowl calling the game.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But also, I'd like two cameras in front of me, so I had to, like, literally stand on my seat to look over the cameras. But it was amazing. Was right there. And the energy is great, but because Arizona is a great place to travel and, you know, it was 5,000 people and 3,000 of them Ranger fans. Right. And because it's the Rangers, it's Arizona. When they played the ducks, there was 5,000, like disinterested people that just want to go to a hockey.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now you walk into a building holes, you know, with 16, 17,000 people that are totally into you. It could probably be overwhelming after what you spent in, you know, on a college arena with people which should charge you up. It could. You're a young team. It feels like, hey, maybe it's a little overwhelming because I will say the one thing about hockey and you covered it where the crowd could be a real disadvantage.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is when you're struggling on the power.

[Alan Hahn]

Play, you feel the anxiety.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The crowd shuts up or they start getting on you, shoot the puck and they'll boot. They get on you, I think, more than in other sports in the moment where you should have the energy. But now they're getting frustrated. They're getting on you because you're not scoring on the power play. And so listen, it's a young.

[Alan Hahn]

There's tangible anxiety in a hockey crowd. Garden, you probably feel it plenty this season. The Garden, it's. It's for the Rangers this year, it has been tangible anxiety. It has been like, if they get off to like, you have that anticipation because the Ranger fans are. They love their team and they're all fired up. And again, it's the Garden. So you're going to get that buzz. And then if things aren't going well early, that anticipation and excitement turns into anxiety. And I do think the players feel it. I think it's a real thing. So maybe there's something to it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

6, 10 and 4 are the hockey club in your home arena.

[Alan Hahn]

They're not good at home.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So Rangers got to get a win tonight. Feel good about that.

[Alan Hahn]

Two points. Keep it rolling.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. So a lot on the table. Tomorrow's gonna be a big football Friday. We've got the divisional round.

[Alan Hahn]

Now we get some good football.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now we're gonna get some good football. And I'm telling you right now, that Baltimore, I believe that Baltimore Buffalo game, the champions coming out of that.

[Alan Hahn]

You think that's it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think the winner of that game wins the Super Bowl.

[Alan Hahn]

That's the AFC Championship. Do you think?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, you. Oh, no, no, wait.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You just said, I think the winner of that game was a Super Bowl. Super Bowl. Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

So you. Well, you never believed in the Chiefs.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think they could be had.

[Alan Hahn]

You've been saying that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I said. I said the beginning of the season. I said during the season that Minnesota and Kansas City were going to be one and done. I was right about Minnesota. I got to take it. But Houston's not going to Kansas City winning. They're not doing that. But I don't think the winner of Baltimore, Buffalo, is losing to Kansas City.

[Alan Hahn]

You think Buffalo goes into Kansas City and wins?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes. Only I don't think Kansas City's won a lot of close games. I thought they caught some breaks. They're not winning a third Super Bowl. That just doesn't happen. And I've been out there. I'm done with the Chiefs. I'm sick and tired, but that's not where it's coming from. I'm rooting against them because I just don't like them anymore. I'm sick of them. But analyzing the game, I do think they can be had by these two teams.

[Alan Hahn]

They've been saying that for the last two years. They can be had.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know, and last year I said it, and I was wrong. Because they had to play two road games, if you remember, and they did it. I just don't think because Mahomes Magic.

[Alan Hahn]

Is just something about it. They're more prepared team, ready for everything.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I'd love to see Detroit win. I agree, but I'm not 100% sure that they'll beat Philly if they do play Philadelphia.

[Alan Hahn]

Really?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not 100%, I would bet. I'll say they'll win, But I'm not 100% sure. And Campbell, man, he's nuts. He's nuts.

[Alan Hahn]

That game in Detroit, in that building, that's where I feel like Sirianni. Sirianni is going to get a little psyched out, maybe hurts. You're probably right. He does that. If it was in Philly, I might tell you a different story. But that game in Detroit, in that. That place.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That place. I know. And you saw. You saw that Minnesota melted under it for sure. Oh, God. Yeah. Hey, I'd love to see what I'm rooting for, quite frankly. Lions, Bill. Super Bowl, I think that'd be. I was rooting for a Lions, Vikings to own four super bowl teams playing each other.

[Alan Hahn]

But that would have been fun to be.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's what I'm really rooting for. But I just look at Baltimore, how physical they are, the finesse of Buffalo with the way they can score. And I understand their defense isn't great, but I think the winner of that game, definitely, I think they're going to the Super Bowl.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I'll say the champions are going to come out of that game, and I don't know who to pick. I'm not saying that just to kind of tease you for our picks tomorrow. That's a tough game, man.

[Alan Hahn]

I've never been more confident in a pick.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, then if you just told me who you're picking.

[Alan Hahn]

I did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, you did.

[Alan Hahn]

How's that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because I think I know you, and I can understand the way you think. It's what he does. I believe. Now, don't say anything because you don't want to spoil it.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm not going to say a word.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That confirms to me you're going with the Ravens.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay. Okay. Very interesting that you would say that. Tomorrow's going to be a great conversation on that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

545. At our pick.

[Alan Hahn]

I got a. By the way, speaking of 545, your list.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, please.

[Alan Hahn]

At 545, I think. Let's pin that. You want to pin that for 545?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's not forget, because.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, pin that for me, please. Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

My list was the biggest sport, the biggest celebrity fan of each of the nine sports. And again, don't get mad at me if you're no. Of the nycfc.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, we always say the four majors.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I would say the major only because I just wouldn't know where to begin. I don't know. I plead ignorance. If you think that makes me a bad talk show host, then you know what I am. But I didn't include that.

[Alan Hahn]

Then we both suck because I keep it to four. I've always said this. I've got a lot of friends. I don't have time. I don't have room for more. So I can't. Like, when you ask me to get into a sport that I haven't been into my whole life, I can't. I don't have time. That's all it is. You must be a really nice person. You're probably really cool. You look like you're cool. I don't have time to add you to my life.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, if I didn't do this for a living. I'm pruning the tree. I'm probably scaling back.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Yeah. We should have that conversation one day, too. Like if, like, I hope I have.

[Peter Rosenberg]

A lot of conversations with you at some point.

[Alan Hahn]

That'd be great. But I'm talking about if you had, like, you know, the whole cut one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

You know, what would it be like that you can't ever watch this ever again? That'd be interesting, right? Because I. My 14. I love all of them, so it'd be really hard. No, you do my four teams. So anyways, you were talking football and there was a little controversy last night in Philadelphia.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

And I felt like this was a bit. I don't know, I felt like this was taken too seriously. So I don't know if you saw this. Carlton Towns didn't play last night for the Knicks, so he's on the bench. In the first half, he was wearing a Philadelphia Eagles. Like rugby, would you call it? Right. It wasn't a jersey. It looked like a rugby. You know those. Back in the 80s, we. All those rugby shirts, the collar. But it had the Eagles logo on it. And remember, he's from what he calls Don, and you're a jersey guy. So tell me if this exists. Central jersey.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It exists.

[Alan Hahn]

Metuchen, I believe. Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It exists. I live in Central Jersey. I didn't believe it existed when I lived in North Jersey. But now that I'm in that area, it is definitely a central jersey.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, Jalen Brunson says there's no such thing as Central Jersey. He says there's either North Jersey or South Jersey. There is no Central. But they argued about that one time. Anyways, he's an Eagles fan, just like Brunson's an Eagles fan. The Eagles right now are a hot story. They're in Philadelphia, of course. So Cat was wearing this shirt. People caught. Remember, the game was also televised nationally on espn. And so there was a lot of talk about it on the ESPN broadcast. My good friend Cassidy Hubbart interviewed Jalen Brunson about it and asked what they thought of him wearing this Eagles gear on the New York Knicks bench.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Josh give Kat a hard time about the Eagles shirt? Why did he change? I have no idea. But if it was me, I mean, I would have kept it on.

[Alan Hahn]

But that's just so the reason why he took it off at halftime and changed into what was then a. I think it was a Knicks shirt or sweatshirt or something. He claims that he was sweating a lot and he was getting pit stains.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

He didn't want to show that off anymore. I'm not buying it. I think he was falling. I think he was falling into a Josh Hart, who's a commander's fan. He's from the DMV giving him stuff. And maybe somebody was looking on social media and saw a lot of New York fans Angry at Kat for wearing this, as if, you know, like he was. He was defiling being a Nick. Right, Right. So, anyways, that's. That should have been the end of the story. It's kind of funny. Whatever. Who cares? Let's move on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right?

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, no.

[Alan Hahn]

Dave Rothenberg this morning on dnr.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Even if you're an Eagles fan, I don't think it's a classy thing. But fine, he's chosen to be an Eagles fan. Know your audience. You play in New York, you play for the Knicks. The fact that you're parading around on the sideline where you can't play, it's bad enough you can't play. Now you have to embarrass yourself in organization. You're rooting for the Eagles.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You should.

[Dave Rothenberg]

You're an Eagles fan. You don't have to flaunt it and prance in front of a New York fan base with this garbage on.

[Alan Hahn]

All right. It didn't stop there. Our other morning, unsportsmanlike. Our good friend Chris Canty also had something to say.

[Chris Canty]

What I don't understand is how you play for a New York sports team and you go into Philadelphia rocking a Philly sports team. Swag. It don't make no sense to me. Just because Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart do it don't mean it's socially acceptable. That's not cool to me. I'm sorry. When I played for the Cowboys, I wasn't disrespecting Dallas sports fans by rocking Yankee stuff. I just wasn't doing that. But I can see it. If you rocking the Eagles gear, you going in, you're like, yeah, I'm supporting my team. And then I'm gonna go out here and drop 40. Okay? Nobody's gonna think about that because you went out and dropped 40. We might mention it, but we will also talk about your dominant performance. Bro, you riding pine, you sitting on the bench, you ain't playing. So why even make yourself the story by doing something like that?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, let me hear it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm. I'm of the belief he should be in a suit and tie, but I get it. I'm an old man. But all I know, covering hockey, if those guys are out and about, if they're a healthy scratch, they're sitting in the press box in a suit. Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

You don't see them, though. They never show them. Right. On a bench, obviously.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But all the more reason. Listen, you're out in public, you're not playing. But listen, the younger generation and a lot of NBA players have fought for that. David Stern wanted them to wear suits. They fought. Silver doesn't care anymore. Whatever.

[Alan Hahn]

Coaches don't even wear suits.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. So. So I'm going to get off that whole. Get off my lawn.

[Alan Hahn]

Thank you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right. We know he's an Eagle fan. So he's supposed to pretend not to be an Eagle fan. Like, do you. Do you want to be a fraud and wear a Giant or Jet shirt? No, that would make him a fraud. So we know he's an Eagle fan. He's in Philadelphia. So what? Right. I don't see what the big deal is. You know he's an Eagle fan.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And if he wears anything else, you'd call him a fraud. Like when LeBron, when he would rock the. He grew up an Indians fan, but yet he still wore the Yankee hat.

[Alan Hahn]

No, he was a Yankees fan. He was a. Whatever it was. He's a Cowboys fan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But. But I think when the. Wasn't it in 2016 when the Indians were playing the Cubs, he wore an Indians hat or something. It's like, stop.

[Alan Hahn]

It was in the World Series. He started wearing Cleveland stuff. And everybody's like, but you are a Yankees fan. Like you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We've seen you.

[Alan Hahn]

He went to a Yankees Indians playoff series and was wearing a Yankees hat and got booed.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And here's the thing. Here's the other thing.

[Alan Hahn]

It's okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Even though I would think, because the way I look at it is it's usually Yankee fan, Nick fan, Ranger fan, Giant fan, and then usually it goes Jets, Islanders, I don't know about the Nets, Mets. It usually goes that way because of a Long island thing and all.

[Alan Hahn]

Sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But. So if you go by that, then most Knick fans are probably Giant fans. Maybe, but not all of them.

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Some of them don't care about football. Some of them are Jet fans.

[Alan Hahn]

But the Giants play the Cowboy fans. Right, Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I get that. And that's the rival. The Eagles are the rival.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But a Jet fan. It's a Nick fan. And I know a bunch of Jet Nick fans aren't going to care that he's wearing an Eagle jersey. There's no rivalry there between the Eagles and the Jets. There's a ton of Cowboy fans in New York. Ray Santiago produces the Knicks and Ranger games, is a Cowboy Knick fan. All right. Now, obviously a Cowboy fan isn't going to like the Eagles either.

[Alan Hahn]

Good point.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because of the rivalry. But my point is, like, what does it matter? Most people aren't going to care. And the ones that Care. You knew he was an Eagle fan anyway, so you're going to be. He's rubbing it in your face. What do you want him to do? Wear a Giant jersey? Wear a Jet jersey? I think he shouldn't wear anything, I guess. But if he wants to rep the team, if it's. If he's known for that. He said, I wouldn't disrespect Dallas fans. You were playing for the Cowboys. Right. But if you. If you walked around Dallas, if you went to a Mavericks game or a Stars game wearing a Yankee hat, who's going to kill you?

[Alan Hahn]

No, exactly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, so why.

[Alan Hahn]

No, that's. Again, this performative. This is. I think this is performative. I really know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Kat. Do you think he was trying to get under people's skin or he just didn't think about it?

[Alan Hahn]

No, here's what I think. I think he's like, I'm in Philly, Eagles are hot. Playoffs are this weekend. I want to rep. That's what I thought.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think he just was like, where was he sitting?

[Alan Hahn]

On the bench. He was on the bench.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But. But I don't understand how.

[Alan Hahn]

And he's in Philadelphia. So for him, it was sort of.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, so the Knicks have to represent everything. New York.

[Alan Hahn]

That's. And that's the thing a lot of fans get caught up in. It's as if now you are only allowed to support the New York teams, which we know is bogus, because I can tell you on this Knicks team alone, there are guys that root for every other NFL team. There's no Giants or Jets fan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what?

[Alan Hahn]

I'm sorry, Precious.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Achua.

[Alan Hahn]

He's a Mets fan. I think he's a Jets fan. I think it's something like that. But there aren't really anybody in that room that have any connection. They don't care.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But here's why Chris's analogy is flawed. All due respect, each professional, each major sport is represented by one team in Dallas. Yeah, but you've got multiple teams in every sport in New York.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Two of everything. And three hockey teams.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So, like, oh, you got to support the new. But what if the jets and Giants are playing in the Super Bowl? What are the.

[Alan Hahn]

Who are the Knicks supposed to back exactly?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Both of them. Yeah, I guess so. I mean, so it just shows you how fraudulent it is. Right?

[Alan Hahn]

Is it just because you put it on? Like, did you have to choose that shirt? Like, did you have to choose that shirt?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, that's why I say I probably wouldn't have done it, but I Just wonder, does he think as a Knick not playing in the game, he's less likely in a hostile environment to get bothered?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, he's not going to wear it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

At six fans, Right?

[Alan Hahn]

He's only wearing it cuz he's in Philadelphia.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right? He's in Philadelphia. And it might even have been at the strategic. Like, maybe I'll get hassled less if I wear this or I let people.

[Alan Hahn]

Know I'm with you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Like, which he is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And everybody knows that.

[Alan Hahn]

And there's nothing wrong with it. Again, I feel like sometimes fans get to. Then they start doing this whole thing about classless. Like, what are you. He's not allowed to be a fan of his team. Stop it. We're overreacting. We get like this. You're too emotional. Here's the problem. How about your team stop sucking? Then you don't get as upset, right? Like, you're only mad because he's wearing the shirt and your team is not even in. Can't even sniff the playoffs. You wouldn't care if he was wearing that. You wouldn't care as much if your team was good. Your team sucks. And you're. And you're mad that he roots for another team.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So what you're really mad at is that even that he said he's okay with him being an Eagles fan. He's got the right to be.

[Alan Hahn]

If you really don't rub it in my face.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't think being a fan is.

[Alan Hahn]

Everything about rubbing it in your face.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think really, I think Dave's upset he is an Eagles fan, that he should have kept it to himself. Once it's no, but once it's don't.

[Alan Hahn]

Ask what that was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know he's an Eagle fan.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know that man sitting there, if he decided to. To wear a pink T shirt is.

[Alan Hahn]

A Eagle fan now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So now he wears it. So what? I don't get it.

[Alan Hahn]

Let me ask you this, all right? Him changing it at halftime. What do you call him there?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I need him.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't buy his changing out of it at half.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I wonder if somebody in the organization.

[Alan Hahn]

Like stop doing this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Caught wind of like the social media said, let's dial it back here.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And listen, you got to do what you're told.

[Alan Hahn]

Somebody just gave him a shirt, a Knick shirt.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If he was told by the organization to take it off, you got to do it right.

[Alan Hahn]

Out of respect, I think he would.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He didn't all of a sudden find religion. And he certainly wasn't pitting Out. So I guess you got to do what your bosses tell you to do.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I love.

[Alan Hahn]

Feeling me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is good.

[Alan Hahn]

Keep me hanging on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, such. Such a. Such a departure from the original, but really refreshed. This is 1967. I think this was released.

[Alan Hahn]

Vanilla Fudge just has an edge to it, which I like. Cuz that song was a little bit faster when it was a Motown song. Yes. And then who did it in the 80s? Someone turned it into like a. Oh.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was Kim Wild.

[Alan Hahn]

Was it Kim Wild?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

And she sped it up again, but it had like a more of an 80s dance kind of beat. And I remember hearing that one as well. But that's. You talk about a classic. Yeah. Speaking of classics, Don and Han here. Peter will be calling in tomorrow. We're looking forward to talking with him, new addition with his family, and just really all I care about is how's Natalie feeling? Let's be honest, that's all that matters. She's feeling good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

When we heard she's fine.

[Alan Hahn]

Yep. Yep.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So Peter will give us an update tomorrow.

[Alan Hahn]

Love it. 800-919-3776. Let's talk to the people. A lot of people want to talk about various things. Let's go to, you know, Brody's been waiting a while. Brody and Heist Town. Hey, Brody, what's going on?

[Caller (Brody)]

Don and Han, love the new lineup, love the show, loved being at Tommy's, getting to see the X and the new one side by side. And anyway, so much to talk about, but I'm gonna focus in on Alonzo. I got a question here. You know, obviously as a fan, love to have him back and emotionally would like to have him back probably a little more than the GM and whatever, but, you know, is there not a four year deal for 100 million? Give him the happy medium. I know it's a bunch. He could be a DH if they do get Vlad. Like, I just feel like we're selling him a little short. He's great.

[Alan Hahn]

He would be.

[Caller (Brody)]

You need someone behind Soto. I mean, his bat is still his bat. His numbers could be going down. But, you know, let's. Let's not try to blow him out the door and act like he's not good, you know?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Four years. You said. You said four years. 100 million. So that's $25 million.

[Alan Hahn]

A year. He made 20 this year.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't. I think he wants more now. I think the Mets might do that. I think they would. I think $25 million a year for him. I think they would be. I think they'd probably rather do it for three years than four.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, the reports are they offered him three years and he did a lot of them. Had little opt outs and stuff.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but. But let's see if he gets it. We're assuming the Blue Jays are the team, but we don't know that we're. Maybe the Mets pivot here publicly is to put a little scare into Alonzo that, hey, we're out, so go see what you can get. And maybe the Blue Jays offer him something similar. And like, hey, I'd rather go back to the Mets, so maybe this is all just a ploy, but I would bring him back for the right price. But at the same time, as much as I love him and want him to stay, I. Even though you've got Cohen, you still have to have a budget on players.

[Alan Hahn]

But you gotta be smart.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. That's the whole thing is you don't. You don't write checks with emotion. Can't do it. Not in business. And that's why I do respect what Stearns is doing here. This is what we think you're worth. This is your value. And you want to stay here. This is what it's going to take. How bad do you want to stay here and be part of what we're doing here? So it's not like they didn't offer him anything. Right? Don, it does show you. It's not that they don't want him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

They just. This is the. This is the price that we have you slotted at. If you want to take it, we'd love to have you. If not, we're going to move on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. You can't be of the opinion the Mets aren't interested.

[Alan Hahn]

That's right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But they're interested at the right price.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. And so for Scott Boris, it is now a matter of can you get better so that Pete Alonso believes. Okay, well, at least I got a higher value. Or does Alonzo say, you know what, I could go here, but I'd be happier here for less money.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Alan Hahn]

And that's something that you have to wait out. John and Madison. Hey, John.

[Don Hahn]

Hey.

[Caller (John)]

How's it going, guys? Alan, condolences on your sister.

[Alan Hahn]

Thank you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

For me.

[Caller (John)]

Tibbs is driving me crazy and I know that he's turned around this team and he's really, he brought stability to it, but with the bench, I just think he misses all these opportunities. Like, there's a lot of excuses that we don't have a bench. And to me, like last night there were a couple of examples of, you know, Tibbs problems and that's campaign. You know, he played seven minutes in the first half, he hit some shots, he wasn't bad. He didn't step on the floor. The second half, Deuce, you know, he finally looked good last night. First night, kind of like coming back from the injury where he looked decent, you know, he made that big steal, hit some shots. The bench and the players were going crazy for him. And he's out the next time out. And then with Precious, you know, he played 30 minutes last night and like, he played a good game. He was, he was effective. And the night before when they played or, you know, the previous game when they were playing Detroit, he played 10 minutes. Like, to me, like, he's got to play 20 minutes and you got to give, you know, an extra 5 to, you know, OG and McKellar or just, just, you got to, you got to work these guys in a little more. I think that the players are there. I mean, it's not a great bench, but there's more than that he can do with it.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, I think what happens in a game is you have pockets. There's a rhythm to the way he, he subs in players, John. And I've seen it now for the four plus years that he's been coaching. And I always pay attention as to sub patterns because every coach does it different. And what he likes to do is his starters the first six minutes of the game, then I think at least two come out and they two subs or at least one, he'll take one star out. So he always balances. Where I have one of my all stars on the floor at one time, sometimes together, but I never have neither one of them on the floor. So I always have a, an elite player on the floor, whether it's Towns or whether it's Brunson. And sometimes he'll do it with Bridges, with the bench. But if you see the game as it goes and you start to see something go wrong defensively or they're. All of a sudden you see the game starting to turn. And we have seen games turn because of the bench, not the starter. Starters do fine. The bench turns. Then you, you realize we can't let this get away. And then he has a hard time just trusting guys that's it. Trust is the biggest thing, Jon. And that's what you heard. Deuce McBride. There was a mic'd up early in the season, and Deuce McBride pulled rookie Ariel Hook Porty aside, and he said, listen, you're in garbage time right now, but take these minutes serious. This is where you earn trust. This is where he watches you, he sees what you're doing, and then he'll try you in other parts of the game. And that's something that fans have to understand. So when I talk about that game, I think it was the Utah game. The Knicks are just blowing them out, running them off the floor. It's a joke. And Tibbs. Okay, let me put the bench in. There's still. There was still like five minutes to go in that game. Then the guys came in. They were not ready to compete. No, it was a Raptors game because it was. Chris Boucher came in and hit like 10 points, hit a bunch of threes. Nobody guarded them. And it was sort of like, guys, what are you doing? This is your chance to show Tibbs I deserve to play. And you didn't come in ready to play. You weren't competitive. And what was a laugher of a win turned into a 12 point win. And that you might say, well, they still won. Yeah, they still won. But you didn't sell to the coach. Hey, you need to use this guy more. That's what I try to explain to people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's the fine line of they're not playing well because they're not good, or they're not playing well because they just don't get a chance to play all that often, to really change.

[Alan Hahn]

They play a lot in the city.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You even said it yourself, that's a big jump. It's a different animal.

[Alan Hahn]

It is. But when you're playing against the deep bench, it's like playing in the G League. You know what I mean? Yeah, that. I was there courtside, as I always am. That group that came in to finish that game, you could see it in their eyes. None of them looked. I've seen benches come in, and you see a young player come in, and they're all about it. Like, they've been. They've been grinding in practice. And he's like, I'm getting some minutes. I'm gonna show out, right? I got 4:43 left on the clock. Yo, I'm getting everything. I'm at the Garden. I'm squeezing everything out of these minutes. None of them came in with that look on their face. And that, that, that concerned Me, you gotta find it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's going back maybe 30 years ago. Martin Lawrence is hosting Saturday Night Live. And the bit that he, he's a net player on the bench, but he's like the 15th player and he's like eating popcorn, he's talking to the fans and then they ask him to go into the game and he's like putting the popcorn down the soda.

[Alan Hahn]

Is that the one where he didn't even have that. He didn't have the pants on. He just had his warm ups.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Find it on YouTube. But like, is that part of it too? Like you go in and that's on them. You've always got to be ready. Like the backup quarterbacks always got to be ready to come in. You never know.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But when you don't play a ton of minutes, you probably don't have the mindset of am I going to game?

[Alan Hahn]

I get away when it's in 25. Yo, we're getting in boys, let's go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But you know, like, you know, as an athlete, you know, you take the pre game nap, you're getting ready, you're going through shoot around saying, oh, I know I'm going to get my X amount of minutes in this game. But you know, I don't know if I'm going to play or not. It really depends on how the game's going.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, man, I don't know if I'm playing the Thunder. I know I'm not playing tonight if I'm playing the Raptors.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But no, it doesn't matter anyway, you always have to be ready. You always have to be ready.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. So anyway, those who are wondering, I'm telling you, I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just telling you how the coach thinks. This is how he thinks. Chris in Mayopack. Hey, Chris.

[Caller (Chris)]

Hi, how are you? I took a couple of things. Nick Towns and then the bench.

[Alan Hahn]

Good.

[Caller (Chris)]

So the game where campaign had a start because McBride was, you know, hurt last minute. Cola, you know, did very well.

[Alan Hahn]

He did.

[Caller (Chris)]

He only played 10, 12 minutes. Yeah, I would like, yeah, I would like to see him get a little bit more run.

[Alan Hahn]

But again, Chris, who is he playing in front of?

[Caller (Chris)]

Just add a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You can't add.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, he's a third point guard. You can't have three guys play like Brunson, Payne and then, then Kolik and.

[Caller (Chris)]

You see it moves. I see him.

[Alan Hahn]

So, so, so now you want to rotate a third point guard in and have Brunson sit longer so he loses any rhythm that he's in. You understand? The players are in a rhythm too. I play the first six minutes, then I sit for the end of the quarter, then I start the second quarter, then I play, then I'll play the beginning of the third. I won't play the rest of the third. I'll come in like if the team is winning, he doesn't come in until six minutes to go in the game. So he's sitting for a long period of time. But if things aren't going well, he'll come in earlier. If you now have him sit for seven, eight minutes straight or 12 minutes, which is in real time, maybe 25 minutes. Because I got to get Tyler Kolik three or four minutes like that. Like people like. I want everybody to understand. Chris, rest isn't what you think. Jalen Brunson, I've talked to him about this. I've asked him about this. He said it. Rest is not in the game. Rest is the next day. And all the players tell you. Towns has said the way Tibbs is different today than he was 10 years ago is that he doesn't do grind you through a two hour practice. On off days, if you played 40 minutes like last night, you played 45 to 40 minutes today you're off. Come to the gym, watch some film, get your treatment. You don't have to do anything if you don't want to. That's your rest. So anyway, I hope that explains it.

[Caller (Chris)]

Yeah, no, it makes. Makes complete sense. I just like to feel, you know. But whenever they could get cola again, it would be nice.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. When they're winning by 20 right now it's when they're winning by 20 or somebody's hurt.

[Caller (Chris)]

Exactly.

[Alan Hahn]

But he's good and he's going to be the. He's going to. He's going to play one day. He's good. He's good anyways. Does that make sense? Don, before we go, like, do you get what I'm trying to say? Like, I know everybody's so caught up in the minutes thing. The Knicks are one team where everybody plays. Nobody takes nights off, which we love about it. All these other freaking teams, guys are taking off here resting this night load management. You never know who's playing on a given night in the NBA. The one thing you know about the Knicks is every single night the three Villanova guys are probably in the lineup every freaking night. Right? Every day Cat is, wants to be in the lineup. He hates missing games. But this stuff obviously is affecting. It's only, I think four games so far. Oh, gee. With all the stuff with him. He plays, they all play.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And we love that about him to play. But let's see.

[Alan Hahn]

And now we're like, shouldn't play so much.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The fans think it's an issue. Hopefully it's not going to be one.

[Alan Hahn]

Helicopter parents, man. Just give me guys who play. All right. Jordan played 82 games a year.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I love it. But he also played against guys that played 82 games a year. The league's different now. I think it sucks. But you cut sometimes to adjust. And when you get to the playoffs, you're going to might you might be playing fresher teams. Do you want that? I'm not talking about load management.

[Alan Hahn]

I have said this. Tell me the team that rested guys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All year long and then won the championship. I'm not talking about load management. I'm talking about minutes. And what do they got? Two, three guys in like top 10 minutes in the NBA. That's what I'm talking about, is that. Yeah, again, I have poor load management. Teams that win, that do that usually don't make runs. But I don't know if they're taxing their players during those games either. They're dressing, they're playing, but they're not playing. And that's what I'm talking about.

[Alan Hahn]

Fair enough. All right. Don had a list. I got a problem with this list. We're going to discuss 6:00 hour. Aaron Rodgers about his future with the Jets. Very interesting. Who might actually have final say on his future in New York. More of that. Your calls, 800-919-3776.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Alan Hahn]

One of the first songs I learned on a guitar really because they're easy, like, you know, very simple chords.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Clapton, one of the only Guys in the hall of Fame three separate times as a broadcaster. Solo Cream and the Yardbirds.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, wow. That's true.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He also played guitar on While My.

[Alan Hahn]

Guitar Gently Weeps with the Beatles, which is still amazing. That's an amazing story. Did you also know that I think he was George Harrison when he did My Sweet Lord, I Believe. No, not My Sweet. I'm sorry, not that song. When he wrote Here Comes the Sun, he was with Clapton, hanging out because they had to get away from the Beatle. They were trying to make an album. He got away. I have to get away. And I think he was with. I Believe I have to look it up. But I think that's part of the story. He's hanging out with them and he did this whole thing about it's gonna be all right. That whole song is just about him finally realizing, like, you know, everything's going to be fine. He's starting to come up with, you know, songs and things and they can get this album done.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Incredible stories.

[Alan Hahn]

Clap that. You talk about Six Degrees, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Right.

[Alan Hahn]

Like he's the Kevin Bacon of musicians. Think about the people he's worked with.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know. Incredible.

[Alan Hahn]

Incredible. Speaking of amazing people, you make. You make some lists that. Again, I think they're phenomenal.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, thanks.

[Alan Hahn]

Thank you. You and I both like lists.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

And so lists will be a big part of what we do. You did a list yesterday. We have our. The list, which is on Wednesdays, and it was. Don legrec is top celebrity fan of every local team in the four major sports. Yes. And I, I, I looked at the list and I started to just say, I don't, I don't. I never want to call you lazy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Alan Hahn]

So I'm not going to say let's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The only way this is gonna work is if you're just honest. If you think lazy, say lazy.

[Alan Hahn]

Cause I don't wanna say that. Cause you're never, you're not lazy. I feel like you almost had some, Some of these just went with the first name that came to your head.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, give me example.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, the easiest example to give you would be like, for instance, Billy Crystal.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

The Yankees.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, the Yankees have tons of celebrity.

[Alan Hahn]

Fans, and I love Billy Crystal. Phenomenal talent, great movies, all those things. And he's, he's been in. It's not like he's at every Yankee game. You don't always see him. You know what I mean? Like Presence of Beef. But let me ask, does presence matter?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, first of all.

[Alan Hahn]

And then, by the way, in one of his biggest movies. He didn't even wear a Yankee. I know the backstory. I understand it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But still, I called him a fraud because of how could you?

[Alan Hahn]

I know you died.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He basically made 61 off a memory.

[Alan Hahn]

I get it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

As a bigger fan as he was now, he obviously relocated to Los Angeles because that's where his work was. How do you think he stumbled upon the Michael K Show and became such a fan of the Michael K Show? It's because he's got yes. And is watching it incessantly because he wants to keep up with his team 3,000 miles away. So he is an amazing talent. And I thought of Chaz Palminteri because he's always calling talk shows, loving the Yankees. Nick Turturro, there's a lot of guys.

[Alan Hahn]

Palminteri was the first name that I came to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But you know what? I think I understand. But Billy Crystal, I think is a bigger name. And I think just because he lives in Los Angeles doesn't all of a sudden make him less of a Yankee fan. So. All right, go ahead. Another example.

[Alan Hahn]

Sandler. Love him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, who would you give?

[Alan Hahn]

I know he had Big Daddy. The jets all are all over that movie.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's all over that Little Nicky, of.

[Alan Hahn]

Course, the little boy, which we can't say on the, on the, on the station, but you know, the GD jets.

[Peter Rosenberg]

When I covered. When I covered the jets. 16 years doing the pre and post, I would see him on the sidelines. So again, another guy that you know 3,000 miles. But I remember talking at the super bowl with. Oh, no, no, it was here. Favreau came into the studio years ago and he says that he living out in Cal because he's a big Jet fan. That he and Sandler and Kevin James would get together every Sunday and watch the jets on the satellite. So I know Sandler's involved. And he's a monster name.

[Alan Hahn]

He's a monster name.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, so who else would you come up with?

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, it' because you said Kevin James and there was another one I was thinking of. But I, I am now going to go to the one that is personal to me because these are. These are tough to do. Okay, but you saying what you said, okay, that's what we're gonna base it on. You know, the, the magnitude of stardom. Right? And Adam Sandler, it's hard to find something big. Right? The Knicks, now I get it. The easy thing to do is say Spike Lee.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay?

[Alan Hahn]

And I love Spike. And this Spike is at everything. He's front and center.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not a celebrity grow guy buys his tickets, ticket holder on the go.

[Alan Hahn]

He is. He is legit, you know, Die hard Knicks fan, can't deny it. But is he as universally known, okay, as Ben Stiller?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Probably not.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, probably not. Ben, by the way, is at every game he can. And when he can't, he's watching in some capacity, some way on an app or whatever. And then after the game at some times, he will text me or he'll tweet. He's become like the king of Nick's Twitter, where he. He's out there on Twitter, like, tweeting things during the game. He is a phenomenally die Hard, no question. And tell me again who this is why. Goodman we're talking about. Like, is there a bigger name than him now? Michael J. Fox. He's at every game now. You see him all the time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He has a lot of Ranger games.

[Alan Hahn]

He loves the Knicks. I know he plays a lot of games. He's. You.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You. You hear the name Spike Lee.

[Alan Hahn]

I know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Automatically think this.

[Alan Hahn]

I know. But you didn't say. You didn't say that your list is most famous.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right, but I. But I did say. And when I set up the list.

[Alan Hahn]

Is, if I dropped in Finland, will they know who he is?

[Peter Rosenberg]

If I drop.

[Alan Hahn]

If I drop Ben Stiller, they'll know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I just. I went. The two criteria that I had for it is how big a name are you? And how big a fan are you? All right, so you could say that Ben Stiller is more famous than Spike Lee.

[Alan Hahn]

He's also a. He would remember. He was there as a little kid with his parents were going, understood behind.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, But Spike, I just think is more associated. But I don't think we can agree.

[Alan Hahn]

But again, totally different thing associated with.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ben Stiller's never called this show to talk, Nick. Spike Lee has.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, he called my show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, but listen, I'm doing a list on this show.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right.

[Alan Hahn]

You want me to get Ben Stiller to call in?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, I could be swayed. We could do this list again. But I'm just saying, I did the Michael K show on this time slot for 22 years, and I talked to Spike Lee like a hundred times. We would just talk about the Knicks and he'd call. Now, listen, you think it's Ben, I think it's Spike, but it doesn't come from a place of laziness. I didn't go, oh, well, Spike Lee.

[Alan Hahn]

That's the first thing that came to your mind.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Where do I put Woody Allen.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, he's. I never see him anymore, but I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't put him there because that seemed like that was more of a thing 10 years ago. That's like an old thing 30 years ago. You know, there's plenty of. There's plenty of Nick. There's plenty of Ranger fans. Like the Ranger fan one I had a lot Chalamet.

[Alan Hahn]

He comes to games. He's a big Knicks fan. Little kid, love the Knicks.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I.

[Alan Hahn]

But he's a big star now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The Rangers I struggled with because.

[Alan Hahn]

And Tim Robbins.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right, Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, Liam Neeson. There's tons of them. But the reason I went with Larry David.

[Alan Hahn]

Good one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The reason I went with Larry David is because. And I told the story, and I'm gonna be unbiased. He was in our studio, this studio right across from me, and on the show, he just. Off the cuffs, like, why aren't they. Why didn't they play Kako more last night? The Rangers were in Calgary the night before. Okay? He's watching Rangers Flames.

[Alan Hahn]

I think he's gonna say Kako that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he's invested in how much they're playing Capo Kako. So the Rangers heard it. And so, like, a few days later, I'm in Boston or whatever, and Quinn was the head coach. And he's like. But right there, after the morning skate, talked to the media, he's like, don, we played it during one of the team meetings, like Larry David talking about, why isn't capo Kako playing? So I elevated him. So listen, he's a huge name. He is a big Ranger. He's known as a Jet fan. He's known as a Met fan and all that stuff. But I. That's why I like it.

[Alan Hahn]

I like it. And you have a story behind I like it. Ralph Macchio, Islanders is a given, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

And you remember Kevin Connolly is another one.

[Alan Hahn]

Obviously, those are two, I think. But I think Ralph Macchio's a really, really good fan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right? And if you remember, in 1991, the 75th anniversary of the NHL, each of the teams was 22, because the Sharks had just come into the league, came up with a celebrity fan, like, mascot for the season, okay? And Ralph Macchio was the Islanders.

[Alan Hahn]

Perfect.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The Rangers took a knee on it and gave it to Marv Albert. So I guess they just didn't want.

[Alan Hahn]

To be a part of it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And the Devils was Yogi berra, because John McMullen on the team, and Yogi, of course, was with the Astros at the time. So they just kind of handed it off there. Kevin Smith is easily now the devil guy. Right. You wouldn't argue with that?

[Alan Hahn]

No, I don't argue with Kevin Smith.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So he's a big guy.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't argue with that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I admitted that Ethan Hawke, Joe Leo gave that one to me. I Ethan Hawk. And maybe I heard on social media it's fugazi and he's not. But Joe Leo told me that Brooklyn.

[Alan Hahn]

He likes to do the Brooklyn thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. But I really. Can you think of another net fan? I'm not trying to be negative.

[Alan Hahn]

No. And I'm not either.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm just. I couldn't think of anybody.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. I think there was like a minute where, you know, some people just kind of went to games.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. No problem with Jerry Seinfeld with the Mets. Right?

[Alan Hahn]

No, I think. I think. And they got a lot. But I think. I think Seinfeld definitely fits there. And the other Tracy Morgan, Giants. Tracy Morgan's a Giants.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I really thought might be a bigger.

[Alan Hahn]

Knicks fan because that's true.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But that doesn't make it any less, you know, I was trying. I really struggled with the Giants because I was hearing people telling me that Hugh Jackman's a big Giant fan. I've seen that, but I don't. Was it Morganson, Viggo, Morgenson. But I don't know that.

[Alan Hahn]

So.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, whatever. That's a little.

[Alan Hahn]

I wanted your explanation. I feel better. I feel better. All right. Calls 800-919-3776 as I've been promising coming up, Aaron Rodgers and his words not Only on Mike McCarthy but on his future with the jets and who it's going to be up to. Not him. Stay with us. Don Han, Rosenberg880 ESPN get ready to.

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[Don Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

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