Hour 3: WBC, WBNA & Geno

Summary

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Don, Hahn & Rosenberg

ESPN New York Podcast

Episode: Hour 3: WBC, WBNA & Geno
Date: March 13, 2026
Featured Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg

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Episode Overview

In this third hour, Don, Hahn, and Rosenberg take their signature New York sports banter through timely topics: the perceived irrelevance of the World Baseball Classic (WBC), high-stakes drama surrounding a potential WNBA lockout, and the surprising return of Geno Smith as New York Jets quarterback. The trio blends sharp analysis, passionate debate, and classic New York sports skepticism, all while keeping the energy high and the conversation unpredictable.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. World Baseball Classic (WBC) Apathy

Discussion Theme:
The trio explores why the WBC fails to capture fans’ attention, especially in the U.S., and contrasts it with other international sporting events.

• Truth Serum Moment:

  • Rosenberg makes Allen admit whether he will watch the USA vs. Canada WBC quarterfinal.
    • Allen: “Absolutely not.” (02:09)
    • Allen admits he’ll only check the score if prompted by a friend.
    • Rosenberg and Don agree: outside of die-hard baseball fans, most Americans just aren't invested.

• Manufactured Significance:

  • Don: “This feels so manufactured now that I just can't... this is of no significance whatsoever.” (03:33)
  • Allen finds some meaning, but ultimately, their lack of engagement is mutual.

• WBC’s Organizational Problems:

  • Don is frustrated by the U.S. management’s lack of seriousness:
    • “The manager had no idea what was going on... sending players in and out, like, oh, this guy's going to leave now and go back to his team.” (03:43)
  • Allen suggests the indifference from players—leaving mid-tournament for spring training—shows why the WBC doesn’t resonate.

• Comparisons with Other Tournaments:

  • Rosenberg reflects on how NHL’s “Four Nations” event underwhelmed him as a hockey fan:
    • “It was an appetizer for the Olympics. I'm like, all right, not bad.” (05:05)
    • He notes that fans will watch, but without passion for the outcome.

• Notable Quote:

  • Don: “Every moment was so intriguing and they were so in that it. It won me over and it won other people... The players, they told me, yeah, this matters to me. It was personal.” (05:54–06:04)
    • Contrasting this with the WBC's lack of similar energy.

Timestamps:

• [02:09] - Will you watch WBC?
• [03:33] - Manufactured significance
• [05:05] - NHL Four Nations comparison
• [06:04] - What made other tournaments work

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2. WNBA Labor Tensions & Risk of Lockout

Discussion Theme:
The hosts discuss the potentially dire ramifications of a WNBA lockout amid unprecedented growth in the women’s game.

• WNBA Growth At Risk:

  • Rosenberg warns: “If you have a lockout, it could do irreparable damage. It really could do. This is tremendous.” (08:09)

• Player vs. League Pressure:

  • Don frames it as a dangerous “dance”:
    • “Who’s the pressure on more? The players, who could end up losing momentum, or a league that has to worry about losing what they thought they were gaining, and sponsors going, ‘well, now we can't trust that this thing's good’?” (08:45)

• Drawing Historical Parallels:

  • Don brings up the 1994–95 NHL lockout, which destroyed the league's momentum after years of high visibility:
    • “It was irreparable, the damage... The W cannot afford [that].” (09:54–10:13)

• The Dilemma:

  • Rosenberg: “You want to get back to work... you don't want to lose the momentum that you have. So somebody’s got a blink.” (10:46)
  • Don: “You got to keep nibbling at it... This is not the time to say I need all of it. Get as much as you can, but then get back on the court.” (11:16–11:59)

• Name Checks:

  • The recent surge attributed to “Caitlin's part of it, but... Angel has a big part.” (11:47)
  • “There's still more stars coming in from college.”

Timestamps:

• [08:09] - Lockout warnings
• [09:54] - 1995 NHL Lockout analogy
• [11:16] - Incremental wins advice

Notable Quotes:

• Rosenberg: “It’s really a very difficult call, but hopefully they get it solved sooner than later.” (11:59)

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3. Geno Smith Returns to the Jets: Redemption or Re-Run?

Discussion Theme:
Geno Smith officially speaks as a Jet again, and the hosts question whether his homecoming can defy the familiar script of Jet misfortune—or will just be another chapter in it.

• Geno's Optimistic Outlook:

  • Geno Smith:
    • “I got a lot of years to play, and I’m looking forward to... building this thing from the ground up brick by brick.” (19:43)

• Redemption Narrative:

  • Allen: “Given what Geno has been through... His plan in his head is to upend the entire plan, is to be, like, so good on this team that they're like, we might have to give him an extension.” (19:56–20:24)

• Skepticism Over ‘Feel-Good’ Offseasons:

  • Don: “The Jets are really good at the offseason, really good at developing any type of optimism in the offseason... Then they start playing football and you go, yeah, no, that ain’t right.” (26:02)
  • Don warns not to get sucked into hope:
    • “This sounds good, but you're not going to get me. I'm not, I'm not going to do it.” (26:02–26:44)

• Tension Between Hope and Jets’ History:

  • Allen: “The possibility of a redemption is one is an indescribable thing in sports.” (28:09)
  • Don (cautious): “This is setting up... and you know, I told you what happens next. The Jets happen next.” (28:24)

• Jets’ Structural Challenges:

  • Don highlights core issues:
    • “This is also a quarterback that does throw it to the other team a lot, maybe too much. And...when he sees a blitz he will turn tail and run.” (26:39–26:44)
  • Allen and Don agree: This isn’t set up to be a high-powered offense, and Geno’s age and volatility need contingency planning.

• Debate Over Tanking vs. Building a Culture:

  • Rosenberg and Don push back at fans (like Rick D. Pietro) who favor tanking for a draft pick:
    • “At some point, you have to show that you’re a functioning franchise.” (29:44)
    • “How has all the losing worked out for you? Two quarterbacks in the top three... You’ve tried it your way for 50 years.” (40:40–40:51)

• Detroit Lions as a Proper Comparison:

  • Don: “The best comp is the Lions... They made the trade. They didn’t draft a quarterback, but they drafted well in other areas.” (37:57–38:08)

Timestamps:

• [19:43] - Geno’s optimism
• [20:24] - Redemption hopes
• [26:02] - Offseason optimism warning
• [28:09–28:24] - New York sports & redemption
• [29:44–40:51] - Tanking, losing, and the Jets’ identity

Notable Geno Smith Quotes:

• “I’ve got a lot of years to play, and I’m looking forward to getting back into the building and building this thing from the ground up brick by brick.” (19:43)
• “I’m a lot better than I was a few years ago, and I know that for sure. And this opportunity, again, the team that drafted me... a chance to showcase who I am and what I’m about. Not just to the fan base ...but to my teammates, really, and to the people in the building who I go to work with every day.” (24:33–25:18)

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4. Rapid-Fire Non-Sports Segment: Movie Talk & Boston Accents

Discussion Theme: Typical for the show, the sports talk gives way to energetic, comic movie debates—particularly about Scorsese’s “The Departed” and the notorious Boston accents.

• Accents Dissection:
  • Rosenberg: “It still bothers me that of all the Scorsese movies, that's the one that wins Best Picture... it’s not Goodfellas. It’s not Casino.” (17:38–17:49)
  • Group riffs on bad Boston accents—Baldwin, DiCaprio, Nicholson—concluding that over-the-top accents added a comedic feel to the serious crime flick.
    • Don: “It added a little bit of a comedic appeal to a serious... Guns and Tough Guys movie.” (18:38–18:42)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|-------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:33 | Don Hahn | “This feels so manufactured now that I just can't... this is of no significance whatsoever.” | | 08:09 | Rosenberg | “If you have a lockout, it could do irreparable damage. It really could do. This is tremendous.” | | 11:59 | Rosenberg | “It’s really a very difficult call, but hopefully they get it solved sooner than later.” | | 19:43 | Geno Smith | “I got a lot of years to play, and I’m looking forward to... building this thing from the ground up brick by brick.” | | 28:09 | Allen | “The possibility of a redemption is one is an indescribable thing in sports.” | | 29:44 | Don Hahn | “At some point, you have to show that you're a functioning franchise.” | | 40:51 | Allen | “You’ve tried it your way for 50 years.” |

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Flow & Tone

This episode features a classic New York sports talk blend of sarcasm (“I’m not going to do it—this is always the story with the Jets”), playful ribbing (“If he was spending that much time watching Jet highlights, it explains why he was so bad last year with the Raiders” (30:51)), and moments of genuine passion—especially when discussing the cultural stakes of the WNBA and the never-ending hope and heartbreak cycle for Jets fans.

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Summary Table of Major Segments

| Time | Topic | Highlights | |-----------|----------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------| | 02:09–06:16 | WBC apathy & tournament parallels | Manufactured drama, lack of investment; previous examples| | 08:09–11:59 | WNBA labor dispute/lockout risk | Losing momentum, player/league tension, historical notes | | 19:43–28:39 | Geno Smith & Jets redemption | Geno’s perspective, host optimism vs. skepticism | | 29:44–40:51 | Tanking & culture in Jets franchise | Long-term franchise pathology, comparisons to Lions | | 16:04–19:03 | Movie accents (mini-segment) | Bad Boston accents in The Departed, comic breakdown |

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Final Thoughts

This hour is a quintessential Don, Hahn & Rosenberg show: unsparing in their critique, but always with an undercurrent of hope—whether that’s for the WNBA to avoid repeating history, for the WBC to someday matter to U.S. fans, or for the perennial punchline Jets to finally write a redemption story with Geno Smith (however unlikely that may seem). The combination of sharp sports insight, pop culture detours, and good-natured New York cynicism makes for a fast-moving, fun, and thought-provoking listen.

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Transcript

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[Don Hahn]

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[Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Allen]

There's been rapid fire.

[Rosenberg]

It's coming up at 6 o'. Clock. Don't even play games, all right? It's. It's honesty time. We're going to play some honesty time.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

All right. I just gave you some truth serum, so you cannot lie. And I'm going to ask you to answer me by looking directly at me.

[Allen]

Hold on.

[Don Hahn]

Tonight, wipe the schmutz off your face.

[Rosenberg]

There you go. Eight o', clock, the United States and Canada quarterfinals of the wbc. Peter, look at me. Look at me. Will you watch?

[Allen]

Absolutely not.

[Rosenberg]

Will you check in to see what the score is?

[Allen]

I will forget. Then Anthony may text if something interesting happens. And then if it sounds interesting, I will watch.

[Rosenberg]

If none of that happens. Yeah, will. At some point, either late tonight or sometime tomorrow. Look up to see what the final score was.

[Allen]

Yes, I will. That is, I've. Well, I've been totally honest. Look me in my eyes. I have looked at the WBC scores or standings, if not every day. All but, like, one day of the tournament. So I will check in. But, like, will I not give Maya her bath because I have to watch USA Canada? No, that won't happen.

[Rosenberg]

Now, obviously, I can't ask you the same way because you got a Nick game. Be working.

[Don Hahn]

But normally when there's something interesting going, I'll always put it on a second screen.

[Allen]

But if you were home tonight. Let's try to be realistic.

[Don Hahn]

No, I'm. When I work, if there was another game that was of interest, I usually would have it on a second screen.

[Rosenberg]

Would this be a game of interest? That's the problem. Yeah. I didn't. Oh, so that.

[Allen]

That's where you're going.

[Don Hahn]

This is not gonna. This is not gonna cross my path until Anthony puts something in the group chat of, you know, like, judge either hitting a home run or striking out a big moment. You know, he is like, it's going to be something like that. And then I'll be like, okay, I know what's going on. But this. I'm sorry. And this is nothing. You guys know I love baseball. This is of no significance whatsoever.

[Allen]

Well, this is. No, I. I think this does.

[Don Hahn]

No, this does not. This feels so manufactured now that I just can't.

[Allen]

I can't buy what sent you over the top, though, because. Do you feel that way?

[Don Hahn]

The fact that the manager had no idea what was going on, that they are sending players in and out, like, oh, this guy's going to leave now and go back to his team. Like, I'm sorry. Like, it's just. There's something about it this year that just is lacking any type of. This is significant. This is important, and this deserves your attention. It doesn't don.

[Allen]

This is the quarters tonight.

[Rosenberg]

The quarter quarterfinal. So if the United States plays Canada, Korea takes on the Dominican Republic. So the winner of those two games will play in the semifinal on Sunday. You've also got two games going on on Saturday, and then they'll advance and play Monday in their final game, and then the. The actual final is Tuesday.

[Allen]

So here's the problem. To me, a semifinal matchup between the US and Dr. Is a lot of fun.

[Don Hahn]

Could be. Yeah.

[Allen]

If that were on Monday, like, during our show, I think we'd be kind of locked into.

[Don Hahn]

You think this would be. Like when we watched the. The women's game and they won in overtime. We all went crazy.

[Allen]

I could see that happening. Like, if it's a good game, battling back.

[Don Hahn]

Is that game Monday?

[Allen]

It's Sunday.

[Don Hahn]

It's Sunday. I'm out.

[Allen]

That's what I'm saying. But it's. Is it. Is it cutting into your weekend family time? Probably, yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Well, here. Here's what, what I'll say because I'm a baseball fan. I'm a big baseball fan. It's not my favorite sport.

[Don Hahn]

Same.

[Rosenberg]

But I do love it. Again, forget about the Olympics. The comparable apples to apples comparison is the four nations which the NHL had United States, Canada, Finland and Sweden. I'll be honest, as a hockey fan, I was interested, but it didn't move me that much. I was going to watch because I just love hockey. Just like a baseball fan will watch this. But I wasn't like, how do you not watch it? Are you nuts? This is the greatest thing in the world. I looked at it and go, nice. As Gary Bettman said to us when we did the show over at the NHL store last year, it was an appetizer for the Olympics. I'm like, all right, not bad.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Then all of a sudden, the first meeting between the USA and Canada, there's three fights in the first 90 seconds. I'm like, I'm salary. I'm all in.

[Don Hahn]

But that's the whole point.

[Rosenberg]

And then I'm watching the games and I'm like, every moment was so intriguing and they were so in that it. It won me over and it won other people.

[Allen]

They did it.

[Don Hahn]

The players, they told me, yeah, this matters to me. It was personal.

[Rosenberg]

Single thing that happened in the first nations. Told you, I need to watch this.

[Don Hahn]

There you go.

[Rosenberg]

And it feels like everything that's happened in the WBC is telling me, don't bother. Now that doesn't mean that tonight, usa, Canada, something might happen that all of a sudden sucks me in. And then the US Advances and they take on Korea and something happens there. So I'm not saying I can't be sucked in, but I think to Allen's point, they did borderline irreparable damage by having it looks like the United States being the only team that's like letting guys go back to spring training by the manager not knowing the rules. By the way of all, you know,

[Allen]

go back to spring training. Of all.

[Announcer]

No, of all.

[Allen]

Unless you're coming.

[Don Hahn]

Wait to go back there unless you

[Allen]

are coming off an injury. The idea that you can't miss a couple more days of spring training the

[Don Hahn]

way, though, you've just gone through this. I know it's a short journey, but this still, you've gone through this journey.

[Allen]

I know.

[Don Hahn]

Team. I'm gonna leave the clubhouse now. Oh, hell, no. That is that. No get my work in.

[Allen]

And that's why I said to you, Alan, to me, that was born bigger than the manager not knowing.

[Don Hahn]

I agree with that.

[Allen]

The people leaving shows you don't give a damn.

[Rosenberg]

And the thing is like, I get it again, again, comparing it to the four nations. Could I see Guy going there going, man, this looks. This doesn't feel like it's anything. I don't know why we're doing this. If this was as compelling as they're trying to make it be. I don't think those players want to leave, but. And some of them may not. But I'm going to be open to say, hey, it's only the quarterfinals. There's still a couple of games here. Something may happen that could suck us in. So I think. I think that's different. So I think it's been unfair to compare it to the Olympics, but there it is. There's been news that has come out that tells you that it's a nice little event for baseball fans. Bob Costas came on our show last

[Allen]

week that was cute.

[Rosenberg]

Said, hey, die hard baseball fans are going to love it, but if you're going to do something, they got to be all in. And so that's what's. What's interesting about that.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

The other thing is, how do you think this WNBA thing is going to work itself out? I didn't like it. I didn't like what she was saying in the sense of, well, maybe we'll miss some preseason. No, no, They've got to lock this down, and I don't want them to be taken advantage of. But I'm telling you, it's so easy. There's so much going on. There's so much momentum right now. If you have a lockout, it could do irreparable damage. It really could do. This is tremendous.

[Allen]

That's why. That's why the league has to hold. The players have to hold their ground. It's a tough spot knowing that the league feels that way. So it's a question as well.

[Don Hahn]

Who's the pressure on more?

[Allen]

Where do you hope that's players, the

[Don Hahn]

players who could end up losing momentum that they were finally gaining, or a league that has to worry about losing what they thought they were gaining, and sponsors and others going like, well, now he. We can't trust that this thing's good, this product's going to take off or going to go any further because of what's going on here. That's a dangerous dance that you're playing right now. But it's a great example of the 95 lockout. The 94, 95 lockout. That's the best example of all. Because it was hot because the league back then, the NHL, you think about it, from 1990 to 1994, all the major markets were in the finals. You had Boston in the finals in 1990. You had L. A in the finals in 93, the Rangers in 94. You had, I think it was Minnesota in another one as well. Like you had big markets. Pittsburgh had a superstar team. There was something going on in the US that was exciting about the sport. And then of course, the Rangers with a cherry on top, it couldn't have gotten hotter. Fox jumps in. They want to now all of a sudden turn this into a thing and then cut a season in half to have it. Just wait until, I think it was January right when they started the league. That was, it was irreparable, the damage. And then on top of it, what happened after that was the, the left wing lock became a thing. And now it was hard to watch the sport. It was a perfect storm of ruining what something they built the W cannot afford.

[Rosenberg]

And, and I brought it up to Maria when she was on the other piece that hurt was now the rush to get back. So you don't solve all your problems and now you're kicking the can down the road and eventually, you know, 405, you cancel an entire season like, so if the WNBA is like, all right, listen, we're feeling the pressure. We got to get back, so let's just accept whatever it is. Let's get sign some three year CBA deal and get back to work. Great. And now, three years from now, those owners are like, I'm getting mine. And now you're shutting it down. You're going through the whole thing all over again. So you're, you're, you're in that.

[Don Hahn]

They got to learn from history.

[Rosenberg]

You're in that, like, middle ground of you don't want them to be taken advantage of, you want to be able to get yours, but at the same time, you want to get back to work and you don't want to lose the momentum that you have. So somebody's got a blink. And to me, are these owners, are they that invested that, hey, if we lose momentum, hey, it's one of like 15 things I own. It's not that big of a deal.

[Don Hahn]

To me. That's part of the problem. So again, if you're on the player's side and Maria was telling us that there is just something they are going to get.

[Allen]

No, A lot. And it's significant.

[Don Hahn]

It's not great, but it's a step in the right direction. Don't you then just. All right, we're going to fight to the tooth and nail. We'll go to the 11th hour. We're going to take what we can get now, but we know we get this much here. We're going to take a little more later. But you got to keep, it's almost like you get, you got to keep nibbling at it. As bad as it sounds for the, for the. Because of what this sport has done over the last couple of years, it has exploded, as we've seen. And yes, Caitlin's part of it, but it's, it's a lot of them. Angel has a big part.

[Allen]

It really, it really is now a bunch. Like it's, it's a, it's massive.

[Don Hahn]

And there's still more stars coming in from college. You have to understand that this is not the time to say I need all of it. Get as much as you can, but then get back on the call.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's, it's, it's really a very difficult call, but hopefully they get it solved sooner than later. Coming up, we're going to hear from Geno Smith. He spoke for the first time officially as a New York Jet.

[Allen]

Sounds like bizarro world.

[Don Hahn]

Former Jet, current Jet, right?

[Allen]

That's right.

[Rosenberg]

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Can't come home again. All this, whatever analogies you want throughout 6 o'.

[Announcer]

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[Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Allen]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

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[Rosenberg]

Don on a Rosenberg's Big East Live broadcast from the Irish exit in Moynihan Train hall is brought to you by Sam Adams Sun Cruiser Vodka Iced Tea and Schweppes. Schweppes delivers above the rim refreshment. Feel the madness and refreshment. Refresh your game with a Schweppes Seltzer or Schweppes Ginger ale. Last night on SportsCenter, Geno Smith spoke for the first time officially as a Jet Allen.

[Don Hahn]

Did Don just give a little bit

[Rosenberg]

Mayor Quimp, I'm sure. I'm sure we'll have Last night Geno

[Allen]

Smith sport on Ross.

[Don Hahn]

What center

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Rosenberg]

We're going to go to war with the Chinese in 20 odd years.

[Allen]

I knew it there we had to

[Rosenberg]

get a 20o year 20best. I know you get a feed me to the chop me up and feed me to the poor is not as good as the.

[Don Hahn]

You like that one better?

[Rosenberg]

20 yeah, cuz it's something hot.

[Don Hahn]

It was. Let's see. It was Baldwin that was forcing it bad like that. Out of all the ones that in that movie that were forcing the accent, Baldwin's was the worst, wasn't it? Even DiCaprio like didn't. Now we all know like. Like Damon didn't have to try.

[Rosenberg]

I gotta be honest with you. And I do love that movie.

[Allen]

This is gangs in New York.

[Rosenberg]

No gangs in New York.

[Allen]

I don't remember it.

[Rosenberg]

Departed.

[Don Hahn]

Departed.

[Rosenberg]

Sorry, but the gangs in New York should have given away that.

[Allen]

It's not that. You mean because gangs in New York is in New York whereas Departed's in Boston.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, sure, go ahead. And one was in like the 1800s and one was in time makes no 2000 time.

[Rosenberg]

Who in Gangs of New York would have said we're going to go to war with the Chinese in 20iu?

[Allen]

The. The gang like the leader from the Boston gang who was in New York.

[Don Hahn]

Daniel Day Lewis.

[Allen]

I've never seen it.

[Rosenberg]

I don't know what happened.

[Allen]

In fact, I think the whole thing's made up.

[Don Hahn]

It's really not.

[Rosenberg]

Are you sure

[Don Hahn]

you lost?

[Rosenberg]

You've never seen gags in New York?

[Don Hahn]

Now you have to homework. It's good.

[Allen]

It's not.

[Rosenberg]

Don't know, don't buy.

[Don Hahn]

It's not great.

[Rosenberg]

I know I've seen a half hour good. I feel like I enjoyed it. But I would not say you have to see it.

[Allen]

I guess the reason my brain didn't go Departed is because the movie's so good that thinking about like there being multiple terrible forced accents. Oh, there are an odd. That's an odd thing.

[Don Hahn]

Here's the thing about the Departed are though.

[Rosenberg]

I believe there's three things that bother me about the Departed because you never know where we're going to go on a show and we're Going there, as you should.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, boy.

[Rosenberg]

Is that. It still bothers me that of all the Scorsese movies, that's the one that wins best pick.

[Don Hahn]

Yep.

[Rosenberg]

It's a good. It's a great move.

[Don Hahn]

Come on.

[Allen]

No, it's a great.

[Rosenberg]

It's not good, fellas. It's not Casino.

[Don Hahn]

It's not.

[Rosenberg]

It's not. All right, that's one. Number two, the use of the flip phone is almost irritating. I understand it's 2006 and that's the technology, but my God, you're absolutely right. And can ever.

[Allen]

With.

[Rosenberg]

With the exception of falling off the roof, everybody. It's a head shot. Everybody getting shot. Shot in the head.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. It's amazing. Everybody's a great shot.

[Allen]

I gotta say. You know what? I. I think I saw the part. I think I saw it when it came out in the theater, and I don't think I've ever seen it again.

[Rosenberg]

Check it out next time you see it.

[Don Hahn]

It's so good. But Boston accent.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, I'd be wor.

[Don Hahn]

Like. I'm trying to figure out is Baldwin's worse or was. Was Martin.

[Rosenberg]

But you know what? Everybody's is awful. Honestly.

[Don Hahn]

DiCaprio's.

[Rosenberg]

Everybody's over the top.

[Allen]

So why didn't they just get Boston people to do it?

[Don Hahn]

Well, no, these are some of the greatest actors ever.

[Allen]

But. But it doesn't. It take you out of it.

[Don Hahn]

If they watch the accent, it actually adds to me.

[Rosenberg]

I thought.

[Don Hahn]

Don, tell me if I'm crazy. It added a little bit of a comedic appeal to a serious. It did, you know, Guns and Tough Guys movie.

[Rosenberg]

It gave, like, it. Like an SNL skit kind of feel

[Don Hahn]

it really normally a compliment, but it did. Jack Nicholson did the of the greatest of all time. Right? Even him. They were. Remember the rats? And he does the whole.

[Rosenberg]

That scene is amazing.

[Don Hahn]

Like, I. I'm cracking up.

[Rosenberg]

It is so good, but yet it's also sinister and it's able to survive. You know what major flaw.

[Allen]

What is about 2 hours, 45 minutes.

[Rosenberg]

I don't think it's that long.

[Allen]

Not even that long.

[Rosenberg]

I don't know if Anthony can look it up.

[Allen]

I'll.

[Rosenberg]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna revisit. And also just real quick, every time somebody dies, there's an X in the scene.

[Allen]

Oh, you've taught. You told me this.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, check it out.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, it's true.

[Rosenberg]

All right. Geno Smith spoke.

[Allen]

Oh, Gino.

[Don Hahn]

Gino. That's right. We went back to that.

[Allen]

Speaking of the gangs in New York.

[Don Hahn]

Gangrene oh, look at you.

[Rosenberg]

He believes he's got a lot of good football left.

[Allen]

What did Geno say? Yeah. On Sports Center.

[Rosenberg]

On Sports Center. He believes he's got a lot of good football left. Eh.

[Geno Smith]

Well, hopefully the inning isn't coming soon. I got a lot of years to play, and I'm looking forward to, you know, again, just getting back into the building starting at day one and building this thing from the ground up brick by brick.

[Allen]

I'm telling you.

[Don Hahn]

Got a lot of mo. Got a lot of mo.

[Allen]

I'm telling you right now. I know the fans have their opinion. I know jets upper management have their plan. Given what Geno has been through and knowing what athletes are like, tell me if you guys disagree. His plan in his head is to upend. The entire plan is to be, like, so good on this team that they're like, we might have filled this with Gino for three years.

[Don Hahn]

We might have to give him an extension.

[Smalls]

That's.

[Allen]

That is what the plan is for him. I could.

[Don Hahn]

Well, I don't think he's coming into this saying, I'll be here for.

[Allen]

Oh, but. Right.

[Rosenberg]

No, but is it that redemption tour or is it. Listen, that part. I know this team wants to draft a quarterback, and they've got the draft equity to trade up for one if they end up having a good season and can't pick first overall or in the top five. He's thinking, I'm gonna ball out and I'm gonna pull Sam Darnold, you know, I'm gonna be able to go pick, you know, where I want to go. Right. And that's what he's probably thinking.

[Don Hahn]

He's gonna be 36.

[Allen]

That's the thing, though. I think. I think he. Like, I'm making this up. We are completely all speculating. Obviously, I think he loves the idea of it just being. No, he shows it here, he ends and he falls out.

[Don Hahn]

Believe he. I believe he talked about that.

[Allen]

No, by the way, don't. That's as likely is him impressing again for what, the third time and going up another.

[Rosenberg]

No, but about 30. But listen, I think. I don't want to put words in his mouth, but you don't think there's a chance he can get north of $40 million? He goes out there, throws 30 touchdown passes, six interceptions and throws for 4,000 yards. You don't think he's going to get the next year.

[Allen]

He's 36. Well, if he does it with the Jets.

[Don Hahn]

Hold on. But short term.

[Allen]

Hold on. Stop. Again, if a Jets quarterback did what

[Don Hahn]

you just said, 4,000 yards.

[Allen]

And they don't sign him to keep playing.

[Don Hahn]

Franchise practice.

[Allen]

It is criminal if he does that.

[Rosenberg]

He's there. Ah, but you know what that's the problem is, is that Jet fans will tell you that's exactly what Ryan Fitzpatrick did at 33. They resigned, that we got hurt and he was done. I don't know if you. I don't know if there's a.

[Allen]

First of all, he didn't do 4,000 because no one has. We found that out the other day.

[Rosenberg]

It was, it was like 3905.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, he did. He did come close.

[Allen]

Although I'll say this, you know, I know they both had different paths. I was much more sure of the place where Ryan Fitzpatrick existed prior to his Jet season than Gino. Gino is already better than Ryan Fitzpatrick, period. He is not.

[Rosenberg]

I don't.

[Allen]

Ryan never had multiple seasons like Gino had in Seattle. I don't, I don't get one with the Jets.

[Rosenberg]

Maybe, maybe you bring him back another year. He's not getting a multi year. I don't care what he does. He's not getting a multi year contract with the Jets.

[Don Hahn]

But you know what he does do? He does buy you the ability to still draft that young quarterback and not feel the pressure of playing said young quarterback immediately. But it doesn't mean.

[Allen]

You mean this year?

[Don Hahn]

No, no. Next year.

[Announcer]

Next year.

[Allen]

Okay.

[Don Hahn]

Like if you don't get somebody this year and he has a year that you're talking about where he's, he's back on it and Garrett Wilson's like half sudden going, my God, this guy. I have, I have a quarterback that could hit me in the hands, you know, if that happens and then the jets use draft capital to still trade up because there's a team up in the top three that doesn't need a quarterback and they'll take the draft capital and then you get X quarterback, you can give Geno another full year, a one plus, you know, whatever. And then say he's our guy right now. And if it's not going great, if it's heading the wrong direction, we got future.

[Allen]

That's it.

[Rosenberg]

All right.

[Don Hahn]

That's probably what you're playing for, right? I would. That's the hope at 36, you're playing for the next. Whatever it is, the next contract, the next country.

[Rosenberg]

What about Aaron Glenn drew you in

[Geno Smith]

when I talked to A.G. you know, just the realness of him. He's a guy who's played this game, so he understands it from a player perspective, I mean, he's been a tremendous coach for a while now. He was on staff when I got drafted, you know, back in 2013, and we just had a bunch of conversations about how cool it would be to. For he and I and the guys, you know, on the team, all of us, man, to, you know, win in Florham Park. And for this to be our story, you know, I was drawn into just again, he's a real dude. He's a guy who I played against. I know what his defenses have to offer. They got a ton of talent on that team and I'm just, you know, really excited to be a part of it, you know, to be a part of this team.

[Rosenberg]

Now, I don't think there's a lie told there, but correct me if I'm wrong, the reason they had to trade for him was because the feeling was once he had free agency, they wouldn't be able to sign him.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

All right, so you weren't that intrigued because somebody else would have gobbled you up.

[Don Hahn]

Yep.

[Rosenberg]

All right. That's why they made. And again, it was. It was a negligible trade. Right. A six round. It wasn't a big deal.

[Don Hahn]

Whatever.

[Rosenberg]

On trying to bounce back off its 2025 season.

[Geno Smith]

There's a lot of people who have gained a lot of, you know, perspective from the things that I've gone through, the ups and downs and the way that I carry myself. And so, yeah, last year wasn't, I wouldn't say it was our best, best performance, but, you know, that's football. You have those ups and downs and you learn from them and you continue to grow and you continue to learn from these things. And, you know, if you play long enough, you'll have one or two seasons like that. But the key is that you get back up and it's how you respond to things. And so I'm a lot better than I was a few years ago, and I know that for sure. And this opportunity, you know, with this team, again, the team that drafted me, you know, also a chance to showcase who I am and what I'm about. Not just, you know, to the fan base and to the people out there, but to my teammates, really, and to the people in the building who I go to work, work with every day. That's what's important to me. And so I can't wait to get to back to Florham park and really

[Rosenberg]

get back to work.

[Don Hahn]

It sounds nice. It really does.

[Allen]

I don't like where you're going.

[Don Hahn]

He's he is his optimism and his voice coming back to a place that obviously was considered a failure for him, where he was drafted, all that stuff. It does seem to set up to be a good story.

[Rosenberg]

It does.

[Don Hahn]

But can I just put out the warning? The jets are really good at the off season, really good at developing any type of optimism in the off season. Yeah, I just don't want people to get and I don't want us to start creating this idea of this is going to be great. Right. You know what I mean? I just. This sounds good, but you're not going to get me. I'm not, I'm not going to do it.

[Rosenberg]

Clear.

[Don Hahn]

I'm not going to do it because there's, there's always the examples of the optimism and the excitement and then they start playing football and you go, yeah, no, that ain't right. So is he a better player than he was a couple of years ago? Like he just said, is he excited? All these things are great. They're easily said right now. But this is also a quarterback that does throw it to the other team a lot, maybe too much. And it's also a quarterback that when he sees a blitz he will turn tail and run. He is not ever going to stand in the pocket. These are dangerous things. So they have to protect him and they've got to be able to also have a defense that can hold up

[Allen]

and also you'd like to have.

[Don Hahn]

This is not going to be some high powered offense that's.

[Allen]

Well. But I will say this. Well, two things. One, you also will need someone else besides Brady Cook because that's why I

[Don Hahn]

wonder, are they going to draft somebody?

[Allen]

Gino is 35 years old, so assuming he's a normal 35 year old and misses a couple of games, you're going to need that.

[Announcer]

Yeah.

[Allen]

The one thing I'd push back on is the, the offense. They do have Breeze hall coming back.

[Rosenberg]

Obviously.

[Allen]

I could see a world in which Garrett Wilson and Breeze and, and, and Geno Smith work really well together. And you see in a step, a step back in the right direction, find

[Don Hahn]

me, find me a receiver on the other side to balance it out. Otherwise Garrett's just going to get.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, they got, listen, they got draft pick. They got tons of money in front of free agency.

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

So we'll see if they're going to be able to.

[Allen]

I just love the story. Listen, the story.

[Don Hahn]

Give me a story.

[Commercial Announcer]

You're right.

[Allen]

Give me a story to follow.

[Don Hahn]

This is very interesting and I know

[Allen]

there, there are people out there Like Vinnie, who's called us last couple days from Staten Island. They're the opposite. They're more mad than ever. I'm not a Jets fan, but I have to watch their, the product they call football every week. I personally, I don't know about you, Don. You're not a Jet fan either. I will be more interested to watch them week to week because I'd like to see if Geno could show something that would actually be. You got. And by the way, let's just, let's not play games here. This is New York City. This is the New York, the home of the New York Post. If this guy balls out for three weeks in a row, get ready for this to become a story with legs there, people are going to look. The possibility of a redemption.

[Don Hahn]

Yes.

[Allen]

Is one is an indescribable thing in sports.

[Don Hahn]

Yes. Which is why I, why I said what I said. After hearing him talk, you start to feel the idea of what a great story. Setting it up. This is setting up and you know, I told you what happens next.

[Allen]

Jets.

[Don Hahn]

The jets happen next. And that's what I worry about. So I, I, I, I, I cannot be all in on this. I can't get excited about this. Even though right now this is generating some type of thought. Things are really going to be good next year.

[Rosenberg]

But really good. But as much as you know, and I get hammered by fans on social media, I got an awful take lose the Ty Butlers of the world, the Rick D. Pietros of the world, you know, wanting the Tank. The one thing for you, Allen, is if it does go sideways, then you're going to be able to draft your quarterback. So you're kind of in a good spot where you might be entertained, but the worst case scenario is you might end up with a top five pick and get the quarterback. And I told you I marked it down. I don't know if we've got the sound. Anthony, what Rick D. Pietro was going to say. His response to me was, well, I never said the players should tank. It's always their response. But how would you feel, Rick, if you were a player not getting full support from your organization?

[Don Hahn]

That's what he said this morning.

[Rosenberg]

He said as well. I'm not saying the players should tank. It's always their go to. I get the players want to win. Wick. What, what hockey team would you want to play for that wasn't all in on your success that you're going out there, you're working, you're training, you go into that crease to try to stop every puck. And everybody in the organization is hoping you fail. You wouldn't want to play for that team. Come on, man.

[Don Hahn]

Nobody else would either. Which is. Which is also why you have to, at some point, start to show that you're a functioning franchise. I will say this. You know what my only optimism is right now?

[Rosenberg]

What's up?

[Don Hahn]

I think we have a gm.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Allen]

You've been going with that. And I like that.

[Announcer]

I like that.

[Rosenberg]

But if they stink, do you?

[Allen]

No.

[Rosenberg]

All right, 3 and 14. You're not. You're not going to be in love with them.

[Don Hahn]

And I might tell me there's no coach.

[Rosenberg]

Well, but it also tells you that this general manager, on his second draft, with tons of money in free agency, built a team that, again, lost 14 games. What intrigues you about this opportunity, Gino?

[Geno Smith]

You know, I've been, you know, watching these guys through highlights, you know, I feel like for a bunch of years, and watching Garrett, you know, route guys up and, you know, just create separation, you know, watching Breece hall the way that he runs the ball, and Braylon the way that he runs, and the guys up front, you know, being a part of, you know, Coach Reich's system and being coached by Coach Musgrave. I mean, all the things are there, and I'm just super excited to. To be a part of this team and to once again, just meet the guys, develop that camaraderie in the locker room, and then, you know, go to work on the field.

[Don Hahn]

Well, are you buying that?

[Rosenberg]

Well, no, because. Well, actually, I am buying it, because if he was spending that much time watching Jet highlights, it explains why he was so bad last year with the Raiders.

[Allen]

It's like osmosis. He got worse just watching.

[Don Hahn]

Apparently, he watched more jets than I did.

[Rosenberg]

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[Allen]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

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[Allen]

Oh, you have.

[Rosenberg]

You're not saying that, Minka Fitzpatrick, you're saying as a fan of the team, for the. For you and for the fan base, in your best interest is for the jets not to win games.

[Rick D. Pietro]

What you just said is a thousand percent true. Never in any moment of having our conversation about the jets did I have the opinion as a player, right? Like, I mean, what do I look like, an idiot? Of course I didn't want to sit there and burn. Like, if anything, right? Like, knowing how my career turned out, I never, ever would. I want to be bad because it didn't last as long as I thought it was going to last. Of course, as a player or Aaron Glenn, you want to win as many games as you as possible. Like, Aaron Glenn wants to keep his job. These players don't want to start burning seasons. Demario Davis is, what, 37? He doesn't want to burn a season. Of course. But like, so what does that six wins turn into? Oh, it proves that you know what you're doing. But does that six wins all the. Like, this is not the trajectory of.

[Rosenberg]

Of sports.

[Rick D. Pietro]

That's not how it works. Sometimes it does. I mean, what did it mean for the Patriots two years ago when they won four games and then all of a sudden turn around, end up in the Super Bowl? Was that because they won four games? No, there was no build to that. It was, this coach stinks. Let's get a good coach with a good offensive coordinator. Spent a ton of money and then you turned around because you had the quarterback. Same thing happened in Jacksonville. Same thing happened in Chicago with the Bears. We don't have a quarterback yet. And I know the players aren't thinking that way. Of course they're not. That's their career.

[Announcer]

That's.

[Rick D. Pietro]

I'm not talking about my career. I'm talking about my fandom in the fifteen years of hell I've just gone through. And now what I'm going to be excited about, Geno Smith winning six games. To what end?

[Rosenberg]

To what end is to find out, do you have a coach? Do you have a general manager? Do you have an organization that knows what it's doing. That's the point, Rick. I just. A positive byproduct of losing is I get a quarterback. But I'm sorry, he talks about, like, he makes it seem like everybody tagged. This is the only way to win, Peter. The only way to win is throw seasons away and get the quarterback.

[Don Hahn]

But the points.

[Commercial Announcer]

Is.

[Rosenberg]

If Jacksonville did do that for Trevor Lawrence, could you say it's worked? What do they want, like two playoff games at the time he's been there.

[Don Hahn]

I think the. The problem that we're having here is the comparison to other franchises, as if the jets favorably compare. The Patriots just had an epic run of 20 years of complete dominance. Then they were decent. Then they hired a. They got rid of a legendary coach. They hired someone who was not experienced enough to do it, and they were bad. They get their quarterback with the third overall pick. They get a coach who has blood in the ground, who had success somewhere else, and of course it's going to turn around, right? But they've like, they had 20 years of being a dominant franchise. So when you have a bad year, it's like, all right, you can live through it. The jets, it's been 15 years, 16. Like you. This is not a. This is a unique situation that at some point you have to show that you can function, because every year it just gets worse and worse. Every year it's this team. It's just an abomination. And two years ago, it was unfair to them what happened with Aaron Rodgers, because it looked like everybody was calling them a Super bowl contender. Everybody thought that defense could be elite and Rogers could make this offense good. So a couple of years ago, it felt like they were finally going to turn. And then the injury happened and everyone went, well, it's the Jets. These things happen to them. There's a reputation that somehow, some way, you have to. You have to exterminate, fumigate. And you can't do it by continually wanting to lose, hoping for the savior to come in a draft that is 22 years old, because you don't have

[Rosenberg]

the reputation the Patriots do.

[Don Hahn]

That's my point.

[Rosenberg]

Even though the Bears haven't won Anything since 1985, you don't have the reputation the Bears do. You don't have the reputation the Giants do, where, you know, Harbaugh come in and say, hey, it's the. It's the New York Giants.

[Don Hahn]

Well, you know what it is? Best comp is the Lions. The best comp is the Lions. The Lions were bad in the first year when. When. Help me out Dan Campbell took over.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, they were bad biting knees and

[Don Hahn]

they were awful bad franchise never can win, always got it wrong. They were bad in his first year, but it started to turn. How did they, how did they solve the quarterback thing? They made the trade. They didn't draft a quarterback, but they drafted well in other areas. And then now the pressure is. Don't you dare go back. This was last year, was supposed to be the year they finally get over the top. It didn't happen two years ago. They got embarrassed in the playoffs where they should have been dominant and Peter's team went in there and just smacked them around. All right, that, that's where you start to worry about Detroit. Did they max out because they were another franchise that just could never get it right? That's more of the comp for the Jets.

[Rosenberg]

Right, but. And also the way you talk about. Well, that's the way to do it. Look at. That's the way the Bears did it. That's the way Jacksonville did it. Well, has it worked for Jacksonville?

[Don Hahn]

When was the last time Jacksonville got to the super.

[Rosenberg]

You know and well, listen, I think it's going to work out for the Bears. I do. We'll see. We're not sure they can fall on their face. It looked like it worked out for the commanders. I still don't know.

[Allen]

But the Bears, the Bears were able to get a basically complete no brainer coach like that. He was the most desirable coach. They got him and he's completely delivered. Yeah, that's not the situation there is. The problem, Rick, is they just signed a coach last year. Right? They already did. They made a decision. They gave it one year. They need to see this through. What are you going to punt every single year?

[Don Hahn]

Yes. That's what a lot of fans want. Because Aaron Glenn in year one didn't show you any magic. No magic at all. And so because you know history, you know your jets history, is that the minute you don't see magic early on, get rid of them. This is a waste of time. We got to try somebody else. What they don't realize is that no one else wanted the job.

[Allen]

I don't know why.

[Don Hahn]

I can't get this to anyone's head. He got the job because no one else wanted it. No one with any credibility wanted this job.

[Rosenberg]

And they were able to get rid of Mayo. And Vrabel wanted the job.

[Don Hahn]

Of course he did.

[Rosenberg]

It's home for him and it worked out. But hey, I don't have a problem. If you're a fan, you say Listen, I want to win, but, hey, if we lose, hey, the consolation prize is. Look at. Look at that. We get picked well, but at some point, you got to start showing that you know what the heck you're doing, man. Also, how is all the losing. Let me ask you this, Rick. How is all the losing worked out? Because you have lost at an epic level. That's all you do is lose.

[Allen]

How has it worked out for you?

[Don Hahn]

Two quarterbacks in the top three.

[Allen]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

One at three and one at two.

[Rosenberg]

You had the second overall pick. You had the third overall all big. You traded up to get Mark Sanchez. You. We've tried it your way for 50 years.

[Allen]

That's a great. It's kind of a mic drop. It'll be one thing if they hadn't done it that way so many times. It didn't exactly work.

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Allen]

Also, I'd like to say the Mangold game, I thought this year was. It was a pretty special game that,

[Don Hahn]

like, it had to be.

[Allen]

It had to be. But who was it? Was it. Where were they again?

[Don Hahn]

Where were they?

[Rosenberg]

I remember when. When he passed. I don't remember the game, but it was.

[Allen]

It was that back.

[Rosenberg]

I believe it was a home game.

[Allen]

No, it was, but it was the back and forth.

[Don Hahn]

No, it wasn't.

[Allen]

It was road game. It was a back and forth game. And they were down like 13 in the second half.

[Don Hahn]

Fought their way back. Yeah.

[Allen]

I mean, I'm just saying.

[Rosenberg]

Was it Cincinnati? Cincinnati?

[Announcer]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Don Hahn]

They. They.

[Allen]

They had a couple of. I'm not saying they had. They had magic, but there were a couple of moments where they showed something. But then down the stretch on this show, we said this week's important. Another opportunity to show something.

[Don Hahn]

The Dolphin came at home to me was the one where it's like, if you can't get ready for this game, you get. Your team can't be ready for this game. Then I got to question you as

[Allen]

a coach, and they laid an egg.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Allen]

So I get why it's hard for people, but I still don't think you can punt.

[Rosenberg]

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[Rosenberg]

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