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Don Hahn
This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
Peter Rosenberg
That sounds like heaven to me.
Don Hahn
Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.
Alan Hahn
This is a certifiable bop right here.
Peter Rosenberg
And this is a woman that.
Loves to love you, baby, and she serves you well.
Don Hahn
But there's a part of the song, though, where it just gets a little. It gets a bit much like, you know, know. Donna, get a room.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, let me put it this way. There. There's. If Alan had this plane on his mix and one of his daughters in the car.
Caller Lou
You're.
Alan Hahn
You're turning it off. You're going, all right, let's listen to something else. Yeah, there's enough fear.
Peter Rosenberg
The seventies. It's weird. Like, cuz, you know, we were so prudish in the 70s and there were so many things that you weren't allowed to do on television and radio and all that. And yet, you know, that song was okay. And what was the other one, Alan? It's going back to like 73, 74, where basically the whole song was just a woman moaning. And I can't think of the name of the song. It was kind of had a kind of Latino feel to it. It's like, oi, oy. It's in Boogie Nights for obvious reasons, if you can find that song. But you know what song I'm talking about.
Don Hahn
No, I knocked on my head, but I gotta.
Peter Rosenberg
I gotta.
Alan Hahn
I just say this. I just don't. I don't ever want to hear what Don just did.
Don Hahn
Oh, I need that drop.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, best believe it's gonna be a drop later.
Don Hahn
Best believe it.
Alan Hahn
No, I don't.
Peter Rosenberg
I really. Well, that's something you're going to have to deal with.
Alan Hahn
Okay.
Peter Rosenberg
That's more on you, Peter.
Alan Hahn
That's a youth. I.
Don'T.
Peter Rosenberg
And I think a lot of people probably share it too.
Alan Hahn
I'm sorry. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think it's going to.
Peter Rosenberg
I need somebody on social media. Social media is such a successful. But There are times that it can be useful. Somebody out there of my age or a little older knows what song I'm talking about. Please give it because I want to play it. And this was a hit. And it was in constant rotation, like 73, 74. And whenever I hear. Whenever they have, like, the Casey case on Top four, I'm like, how do they allow this on the air?
Don Hahn
Oh, it's unreal.
Peter Rosenberg
You. But you don't know what song I'm talking about.
Don Hahn
No, I don't.
Alan Hahn
It's a song by a woman.
Don Hahn
It's a woman's voice.
Peter Rosenberg
It's a woman's voice, but I think it's a band.
Alan Hahn
Okay. Could it be? Could it be. It's not. Best of My Love Emotions. I'm looking at the soundtrack here. Commodore's Machine Gun.
Peter Rosenberg
No, no, I know the Commodores. Okay, keep going. Did you're on the Boogie Night soundtrack?
Alan Hahn
Yeah, this is key songs from the soundtrack. Living Thing by Elo. Don't think.
Don Hahn
No.
Alan Hahn
Ain't no Stopping Us Now. No, of course not, Sister Christian.
Don Hahn
No, no, Sister Christian.
Peter Rosenberg
One of the great scenes in the history of cinema.
Don Hahn
That Night Ranger.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, Sister Christian. Of course. Good.
Alan Hahn
That's the song.
Producer Anthony
Was it Afternoon Delight?
Peter Rosenberg
No, no, no.
Don Hahn
Afternoon.
Peter Rosenberg
That was in Anchorman. Now you're Afternoon Delight.
Don Hahn
Delight.
Peter Rosenberg
Afternoon Delight.
Alan Hahn
What about Spill the Wine by War?
Don Hahn
No, definitely not.
Peter Rosenberg
That's. You don't know that song.
Alan Hahn
Brand New. Brand New Key by Melanie say.
Peter Rosenberg
No, I don't.
Alan Hahn
Don. I don't know these songs. I just. That's on you.
Peter Rosenberg
Okay.
Don Hahn
I love that he's getting mad at you, Peter.
Alan Hahn
Brand by Melody I don't know it. I don't know it.
I'm trying to help you, for God's sake.
Don Hahn
It's great how mad Don's getting because you're not getting the song.
Caller Dick
He wants you.
Alan Hahn
By the way, this is the whole set. We just went through the entire soundtrack.
Don Hahn
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
So.
I'm sorry, Don. You're gonna have to watch the entire film.
And use Shazam.
Peter Rosenberg
It bothers me.
Alan Hahn
Well, you're gonna. This is something we're all gonna have to power through as a family. Yeah, I think it's. It's gone now. Now, by the way, I. I have saw.
Peter Rosenberg
Wait. No, no, I think. Oh, oh, oh, he's back.
Don Hahn
Did he find it?
Alan Hahn
He lost it again.
Peter Rosenberg
I'm gonna. I, I.
Alan Hahn
All right, well, while Don's talking about that, Alan, let's talk about something else Don's not interested in real quickly. I just want to put this out here. We're not gonna spend the five o' clock on it though. I'm gonna get into it more after 6:30 when you guys have to roll out for your, your, your pregame duties.
Don Hahn
Yep.
Alan Hahn
I'm going to, I'm going to try to get Andrew Gundling to jump on with me.
Peter Rosenberg
Okay.
Alan Hahn
Because the World cup groups are out. Oh, and the United States received as favorable, not surprisingly, as a home team, as the host, as favorable a group as imaginable. They are in group D along with Paraguay, Australia.
And the winner of playoff C, which means teams that essentially did not get in yet. All right, so you're not talking about.
Don Hahn
The cream of the play in team.
Alan Hahn
This is a play in like a play that'll end up in the group.
Don Hahn
Okay, okay.
Alan Hahn
You know, Paraguay and Australia, they field teams. These are not teams with a really, really current, currently promising future. This is what you hope to get. The US Is favored to come out of the group.
Anthony said to me and I actually think he's right. If they can't get out, remember guys, the top two get out. So even if you say, you know, Paraguay is a decent, a half decent team, so Paraguay is getting out. Okay, well there's two slots out of the four here. If you can't get out, is it time to just disband and give up this whole thing? We are going to go. This World cup, guys, is 32 years after the 94 World cup in the U.S. at which point, you know, the, the FIFA and U.S. soccer and fans at large said now with a World cup on US soil, there's something to get excited about. There's momentum, there's energy. They went on a run, they ended up losing one nothing to Brazil. They, you know, they not only got out of the group, but then they won a game. You felt good. Okay, we're on our way to something and nothing has been happening, guys. If they can't get out of the group here, what are we doing?
Don Hahn
It's so confusing how millions and millions of American kids grow up playing. It's like it's the portal to sports. Every kid, the first team they're on is a soccer team. Probably three year old soccer team, whatever it is.
Alan Hahn
Oh yeah, right.
Don Hahn
How is it that we just can't get, get good enough?
It's so mind boggling. All you ever hear about is coaching. They keep changing out coaches and they keep changing all that stuff out. I can't figure it out. But this, this would be. Obviously.
You'Re going to have everybody watching because of where it is. But they got to find a way. Right? You think.
Alan Hahn
You think Americans will be more dialed in because it is here?
Don Hahn
I think so. Because a lot of times when it's overseas, it's all the odd start times, and you don't know what's on. It's going to be in everyone's face. Right. And all the. All the markets that they're playing in, especially here in New York, it's going to be in your face. So it's going to be covered differently because it's here. It's here in the states.
Peter Rosenberg
Was 94 the last time, or was there one before that in the US?
Alan Hahn
I think that was it, because I.
Peter Rosenberg
Remember 94, and it was huge. And so that's going over 30 years ago, where it was a big deal.
Don Hahn
And it was crowded.
Peter Rosenberg
That was. I think it was. That was when Baggio hit the crossbar for Italy. And the fact that. That still resonates with me. I was working at Sportsvine at the time, and we had, like, a separate number. It was a big. It was. It was a big, big deal. Soccer's only gotten bigger since then. Right. Because 94, that was even before MLS, right? When did MLS start? Right around there, maybe even because of.
Alan Hahn
That, I don't know, a couple years later.
Peter Rosenberg
So, yeah, this is going to be huge.
Alan Hahn
The US's group in 94, Don, was already better. It was the US, Switzerland, Colombia, and Romania. Right. Which is still clearly already stronger than what they're dealing with this time around. So it's going to be very, very interesting.
To see what the US does in their group play. That first time around, they tied Switzerland 1 1. They beat Colombia 2 1, which, in retrospect, is shocking. And then they were already good, and they lost to Romania 1 0.
But this. This will be. This could be either the best summer ever. I've always said, guys, that if somehow U.S. soccer ever went on just a bit of a run, it would be inexplicably big monster. And they just. They've just not been able because it'll. It'll combine so many different things. You have the soccer community, you have the Patriots kind of crowd who love all things usa.
Don Hahn
Yep.
Alan Hahn
Alan, you have the fact that this is the one thing that we're a true underdog in that would, like, galvanize people. It's all sitting there for you.
Don Hahn
And let's also point out the fact that it will take place at a time when. And it's baseball and nothing else.
Peter Rosenberg
That's right.
Don Hahn
Let's be honest. It Begins in the middle of June. So unless the Knicks are in the finals, at least in New York, right. Like the NBA finals will be going on, the Stanley cup finals will be going on, but they'll be over fairly quickly. And then it's just nothing else. It's baseball. So that's also where it's. It's a lot of reasons for there to be more eyeballs on it. It's not being. It's not competing with football and other sports. It's just competing with baseball.
Alan Hahn
No, June 11th is when things get underway. June 11th.
Don Hahn
Yeah. Well, it takes you into like late, late July, right.
Alan Hahn
Mid July. It's like a month.
Peter Rosenberg
If you can make a run and not even win it. Like when obviously what everybody goes back to is when the USA beat Russia and then Finland to win the gold medal in 1980, there are American born players that.
Decided to play hockey on that day. And the sport grew true. If we could just make a run how popular soccer is in certain pockets of this country to begin with. That could be why everything, everything pops for. But what kind of run? Because I don't think they can win. But. And if they don't make it, it can actually do the opposite. Right. Where people just are. They're going to give up. We'll never be good. But if they can make a run to what Peter, do you think would. Would actually bring that kind of attention.
Alan Hahn
That it's. It's really hard to say. The level of impact it would have if they could get to somehow, you know, a semifinal would be insane. But guys, a quarterfinal, okay. They lost to Brazil in 94 in the round of 16. If they and Brazil went on. No, that was when. Yes, after Italy. Don just pointed out after Baggio missed in PK's.
If the United States could even make the quarters, we'd be having a conversation. If they could go further than that. Guys, how about this take? If they go to the semis, if they were to ever go to the semis, A show like this, where we never talk about soccer unless it's a moment like this, it would end up getting half the time every day. I guarantee you it would be half of our show every day.
Don Hahn
That's how big it could get. I completely agree.
Peter Rosenberg
The interesting thing, I guess the stumbling block for us are you look at us as a radio station and I love who we have. Who would be our go to guy for that.
Don Hahn
We're talking about it every day about jj.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, you can't give me guys behind the scenes. I'm Saying, like, you know, when it. When baseball's big, you know, Michael's our guy. Football, we've got, you know, listen, I've got a ton of experience, like, but, like, like, it's. It's shows of three guys that really don't know a lot about it.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, but you're, You're. You're. I think you're almost overthinking it. Sometimes events are so big. It's not about people coming to us for expertise. It's about people coming to share in the passion, react.
Peter Rosenberg
It would.
Alan Hahn
I mean, like, at that point, Don, how much. How much do you need to know, Honestly? Like, how much do you need to know about soccer to be excited and break down a game of a team that everyone's rooting for the same team, but you just. It's not.
Peter Rosenberg
You said break down like, you're still going to need. That's what's just so interesting about this sport. Like, yeah, like, when the Rangers go to the Stanley Cup Final, you know, we're going to talk about it, but I'll be the guy that kind of maybe breaks it down and maybe can be the person that can give you a little history, a little background, because I'm a hockey guy, Alan's a hockey guy. You know, baseball with Michael and football, everybody's into football. Basketball, you know the same thing. But you said breaking down. Who's going to do that? I'm not. I can't do that. And will a soccer fan want to hear me break it down?
Alan Hahn
Soccer fans at that point are irrelevant. Respectfully. They're on their own podcasts. This is going to be what we're. What Al and I are saying is it will become a thing where every casual now cares. They don't even need to have it broken down to a fine powder.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
Because the hardcore already know it.
Don Hahn
It's like we're all into it at the same time sort of thing.
Peter Rosenberg
Right.
Don Hahn
Like, it's a reaction to what we're seeing using our sport. To me, it. Like, because that's why I find this to be the most compelling first, because I think a lot of us will be watching as sports fans who aren't traditionally soccer fans. And again, it's national teams, so it's not like you really know this. Like, it's not like you're talking about Man City or something like that. Right. Like, it's a national team. And I think there's something compelling about all of us sort of learning it and watching it from the perspective of somebody that just we know sports, we know how sports works. We know what's a moment, we know what's a big deal. We know what's controversial and just kind of doing it that way.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, I'm not. I'm not denying that it can't be big and I'm not denying that we'll talk about it. And it commanded it. Just what makes it so unique is there's usually somebody that ties it in. And I know for myself when I get into something like I wasn't the biggest hockey fan in 1980. My dad was not a hockey fan. That was before the Devils came. We did not. I knew about hockey, I liked hockey. But I. Because my father didn't teach me and I felt like I was lost. And after 1980, I was longing for. To learn more about it. I wanted to know more about it. So for it to grow, there has to be. Okay, now I want to find out about it. And as that. As they're making that run when we're breaking it down, like to have somebody like educate everybody. And so the people that aren't really soccer fans can become soccer fans and want to learn what all these things mean so they can be that much more into it as the. As the run continues. Because I always kind of thirst for that knowledge. I get bored if I don't know what's going on. Right.
Alan Hahn
But I guess also. But Don, did you not play soccer as a kid? Like I do think a lot of people have a fault, fundamental knowledge of soccer from playing.
Peter Rosenberg
I never listen. I know the objective of the game, but I don't.
Alan Hahn
Let's be honest. Let's be honest. Alan, Dan, Don's dad was driving by the soccer fields and throwing tomatoes at the people playing soccer.
USA Soccer.
Peter Rosenberg
Then you're a moron.
Alan Hahn
How about this? Don, you remember this Gio Reyna who's currently on the team? This will make you feel young. You remember his dad, Claudio Reyna, because he was on the World cup team in 94.
Don Hahn
Let's get Claudio.
Alan Hahn
That's where we're at. We are. This. It's. It's gonna be interesting. So we'll get into that some after 6:30, but the phone lines have been jammed with a variety of stuff. Let's start talking to the people. We'll start with.
Lou in Clark with some Jet stuff. Lou, what's up?
Caller Lou
Yeah, hi, Alan. I wanted to talk to you.
Don Hahn
I'm.
Caller Lou
I'm one of the people that on Monday. I heard you after the Jet game. The reaction you had on Monday was Like, no reaction. It was like, so what?
Alan Hahn
Whatever.
Caller Lou
I have a Jet fan my entire life. I started when my father dragged me to the Titans at the Polo Grounds.
Don Hahn
Yes.
Caller Lou
I'm not old and, and I, you know, we had season tickets for about 30 years, although not, not anymore. So here's my story, right? The jets, the great news is we got a bunch of young guys. You know, the offensive tackles, the tight end, the defensive couple on the line, the punter, I mean some of the wide receiver, new faces who tend to be a little bit younger and faster. So we're excited. They're playing hard, there's no baggage. We're looking forward, athletic and aggressive.
Peter Rosenberg
First time.
Caller Lou
I really feel this way. Clearly we're interested in drafting a quarterback. I'm 100% in on that and I trust Moogie and Glenn will get it right this time. But there's something that's bothering me and that is these youthful guys on the team, you know, they, they, they need to learn how to win, but I think they need more than that. And I don't, I don't think rolling out a 36 year old Taylor and Justin Fields, I don't, I don't think that's, that's where we should be right now. And it just. When we win like Alan I have, we had the same reaction. It was like, so what? So my feeling is this, that Mugi, if he's as good as I think he is, and we're very fortunate. Brady Cook, 6 3, 25 years old. So he's a mature Missouri. I know he was undrafted. There was other people like United in that too, but I'm not suggesting he's that. But preseason we saw lesser competition that he was against, but he had composure, a strong arm and accurate arm. He's got good field vision and his presence in the huddle, everything. I mean, so you're.
Don Hahn
So what you want, what you want right now is for the jets to give him the ball and say the hell with it, let's just finish out the season with and see what this guy can do. While we're also giving other guys opportunities, that young guys opportunities to play.
Caller Lou
Yeah, I think we'll get there, right?
Don Hahn
I think, I don't think we're there yet. Lou. Lou, I, I'm with you. I don't think we're there yet. I think maybe once you get a little. I know we're in December, but I do feel like this game, like if, if I'm, if I'm the owner, I want this game, it's the Dolphins. I want this game. So I need a veteran out there, right, to see if you can get me a dub when we're. Later on when, when, you know, the Bills are shitting half their team or the, or the Patriots are sitting half their team because they don't need the game. Then, then give me Cook, then throw him out there. That, that's how I think it's going to go down. Like that. My opinion.
Peter Rosenberg
I, I don't think there's anything there.
Don Hahn
Oh, if there was a there there, he'd already be playing.
Peter Rosenberg
Right. That's what I'm saying. So I don't, I, I, I disagree. I wouldn't want to sacrifice that game if the Bills are resting a bunch of people. I'm, I'm starting Tyrod Taylor. I'm trying to win.
Don Hahn
You want to win? Okay.
Peter Rosenberg
You want to. This isn't spring training, you know. Listen, if the kids got a chance, then we would have seen that by now. Well, that, that's what's, that's what the preseason games are for. That's what camp's for. I think he's going to go out there and field the team that gives him the best chance to win. Even if they lose every other game going down to Buffalo, they're going to want to win that game. I found the song.
Alan Hahn
Oh, and by the way, that's Sean from Queens. Sean, you know the song Gone?
Caller Dick
I might have, I might have hit.
Caller Trey
It on the head.
Caller Dick
And I'm surprised that Peter. Mr. Music Head. But anyway, I believe the name of that song is Pillow Talk.
Peter Rosenberg
No.
Caller Dick
By Sylvia.
Peter Rosenberg
No, I know that song. Pillow Talks. A giggly little bubbly song. It's not that we did find it, but you get a goal horn, so that helps.
Alan Hahn
Let's not, let's not blow past the fact that the guy wanted me.
Don Hahn
Look what you did.
Producer Anthony
It's between 5:15 and 5:20.
Peter Rosenberg
You mentioned it because when you said Jungle Fever, I was thinking the other song. The name of the song is Wonder Vehicle. No, the.
The, the, the jungle of the. You know, for. There was in Pulp Fiction.
Alan Hahn
Oh, Jungle Boogie.
Peter Rosenberg
But I sent the song to Jacob so he can probably come into the next segment with it if he, if he.
Alan Hahn
Again, I just want to take a moment to point out that guy literally crushed me. I thought, Peter's Mr. Music. He didn't know it. And then proceeded to get the song exactly wrong. No, you don't, don't blow past that. You deserve to be called. You don't just get to do that. Could jab someone and then get it wrong.
Peter Rosenberg
You got it wrong. He ended up getting it wrong because it's not pillow talk.
Pillow talks. Just a giggly. It's. It's. It's a silly song. This is.
Alan Hahn
This is porn.
Peter Rosenberg
I. I'm. I'm really in. I think it was 1973. I'm surprised they allowed it on air, but we're gonna play it. YouTube People won't hear it, but.
The residential audience will. You get my text, Jacob? You're good? Oh, we're good to go. I got coming out of it.
Don Hahn
All right. Oh, I can't wait. Can we go to break now?
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Alan Hahn
So let's break now then, because every line is jammed anyway.
Peter Rosenberg
We.
Alan Hahn
We got to get to all of these callers. And matter of fact, Don, I might even go a step further and if you. And order the Boogie Night soundtrack for you. And if I were. No, no, I want to get you the vinyl. And I'm going to order on Amazon Gift.
Don Hahn
I like it.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah, there's sex happening.
Now.
Peter Rosenberg
How did this make the radio never mind be a top 40 song?
Alan Hahn
Top 40 song.
Don Hahn
Oh, yeah, it was.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
Don Hahn
Wow.
Alan Hahn
I don't. I. I got to tell you, sometimes you guys tell me things are top 40 that I cannot believe. Like, there's no. No familiarity whatsoever.
Peter Rosenberg
Now, the name of the. Greg Wilson wrote it is.
I don't even C H A K A C H A S is the name of the song, and I want.
Alan Hahn
To see.
Peter Rosenberg
How far it.
Got.
Alan Hahn
I just. I just never want to hear Don's replication of a Latin woman in the middle of a fun time. I. It was. Alan. It was troubling.
Peter Rosenberg
I was trying to.
Alan Hahn
Don't worry. We'll hear it in about 30 minutes. It's just going to be hard for me to get up from that. No pun intended.
Don Hahn
All right. Well, I mean, I. I'd gladly go back to Donna Summer after that.
Peter Rosenberg
Speaking of 10, it made it to the top 10.
Alan Hahn
It was a top 10 song.
Don Hahn
The 70s were not approved time, Don. They were not.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, they weren't a prude time. But for, like, radio and television, we weren't that far removed. No, no. Well, that's. You couldn't say pregnant on tv.
Don Hahn
Well, that's different. No, what was mainstream stuff again? The Osmonds, you know, all that stuff like that was. Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, what's more mainstream than, you know, American top 40? I know, but I'm not saying it. No, I. I get why the song was written. I love it. And it was.
Don Hahn
But.
Peter Rosenberg
But for it to be able to. I mean, let's get it on was.
Don Hahn
A number one song, wasn't it? Marvin Gay.
Peter Rosenberg
All right, but Marvin Gay.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, it's. It's more subtle than that, I'd say.
Don Hahn
You think it is.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Don Hahn
Okay.
Peter Rosenberg
Nothing subtle about that.
Don Hahn
Nothing subtle about let's Get it on, baby.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. Cuz who was. Yeah, who was. Who was. The ref in boxing used to say that, too.
Alan Hahn
It hit a little bit different. Yeah, let's get it on. Mills Lane said it. Yeah.
Don Hahn
Mills Lane, Mills Lane.
Peter Rosenberg
How can you take the same. Literally the same phrase, right? And make it completely opposite?
Don Hahn
Something totally different, right? Imagine just being like that kid in the backseat if your mom's Dodge Dart and this is playing on the radio. You're like, mom, what's this song about?
Peter Rosenberg
Let's get it on.
Don Hahn
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
All right. Let's. Let's go to the phone line. Speaking of movement, no one gets you no one gets you Going on a Friday like Dick in Manhattan. Hey, Dick.
Caller Dick
Hi, Peter. Don Allen. Phyllis, you mentioned Donna. Summer 1975. Love to Love your baby. It was around this time, and it was also around this time the Yankees got their version of Mickey and Willie. Mickey Rivers came with Ed Figueroa for Bobby Barnes, and Willie Randolph came for Doc Medich 50 years ago today. You know, Allen, you'll be interested. The Post has the 15 best NBA defend and Holmgren is rated number one. But out of the 15, four of them are from OKC.
Don Hahn
Who was rated number one?
Caller Dick
Holmgren. Chad Holmgren had. Yep, number one.
Don Hahn
Number one defender in the NBA.
Caller Dick
Well, he's got the best chance of being defensive player of the year. Correct.
Peter Rosenberg
As of now.
Caller Dick
And you know, Vegas knows what they're talking about.
Don Hahn
All right.
Caller Dick
Four out of the 15 guys are from OKC.
Don Hahn
Well, they have best defense in the league.
Caller Dick
And Wembayani is third. Mobleeb was second.
Don Hahn
Wembanyama's injury kind of hurts you because I would say that he's the best defender in the league, but. Okay.
Caller Dick
All right, now I have two criticisms. Two criticisms. On the NBC games Sunday night, Tirico and Collinsworth, the great catch by Birx. They didn't mention the great defensive defending on by the cornerback. He was all. I've never seen a guy on top of a guy like that. And the pass that Mariota drew was perfect. That was the only place he can throw the ball where Berks can make the. The whole thing was unbelievable. They just kept telling you how great the catch was, and it was. It probably was better than Beckham's because of the circumstances. It was unbelievable. But you gotta. You gotta credit the quarterback and the defensive back. They were. I wouldn't say equally, but they were just as good. I mean, they were pretty damn good. And in the Knick Celtic game, now, I know you guys didn't watch the NBC feed. I just happened to it on. Reggie Miller said one of the most stupid things I've ever heard in the second quarter. First of all, the Knicks are up by 16 or 18. And then Boston comes back in the middle in the beginning of the. So Reggie says when Boston comes back, you know, in the middle of the second and they tie it up, take the lead, he says, you know, in the old regime, he doesn't mention Thibodeau's name. The old regime would have taken out all the subs and brought in the regulars, but credit to Mike Brown, he left all the substitutes in. Reggie, we lost the game because of those six minutes. I mean, what credit am I going to give Mike Brown? It's okay to leave the substitutes in, but that's where we lost the game. That was the crucial point right there, you know, so I didn't understand that at all, fellas.
Don Hahn
Not at all. The moral of the story is, is that if MSG is also doing the game, just watch msg.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, that's.
Caller Dick
Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure I wouldn't have heard that.
Alan Hahn
That's for sure.
Caller Dick
Fellas, always a pleasure. Oh, by the way, one more thing. You see, Donnie, Buffalo went from last. I mean, yeah, Washington went from last place to first place in three weeks. And Ovechkin's got two more goals. He may stick around next year to break Gretzky's all time, all time goals, you know, including the play.
Peter Rosenberg
Play easy.
Alan Hahn
It's.
Peter Rosenberg
It's really unbelievable. We're going to give a stat during the game tonight.
The Devils. We could go today, guys. The Devils beat the Sabers. They won their third consecutive game. So Black Friday and they were in sole possession of first place in the Eastern Conference.
Commercial Narrator 2
Okay.
Peter Rosenberg
We haven't even played games a week later on the Friday entering today, one week later, Devils lost three in a row. They're now the second wild card in East.
Don Hahn
Crazy parody. Talk about parody.
Peter Rosenberg
It is going to be one bad.
Don Hahn
Week and knock you out.
Peter Rosenberg
It is going to be just a. Every team, every single team in the Eastern Conference right now still has a chance to make the playoffs. And that's kind of unheard of, you know, even though it still feels early, you're like almost. Some teams will play as many as 29 games. It'll loosen up at some point.
Producer Anthony
Point.
Peter Rosenberg
But like right now, everybody in the Eastern Conference has got a shot. And if it stays like this, going close to the trade deadline, I don't know what anybody's going to do.
Don Hahn
It's got to be exhausting. Every game's got so much riding on it that you could fall out that easy.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, that's what Damian Woody said.
Alan Hahn
Second half.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, Damian Woody said that the, the offices in the NFL are flipping out about the parody and how great it is now. Every game is important. I'm sure the NHL is doing the same thing, right. Where all these teams, there's only like, what is it like? Calgary and Nashville are really the only teams that I think have zero shot of making the playoffs. That's. That's good news. Like, these games are intense, right. Normally, you know, we grew up watching hockey in December and it's like, all right, you know, you're making the playoffs. It's kind of just. You got to really love the sport to get into the regular season that we're now, these games really matter. Every point is so important.
Alan Hahn
By the way, I'm going to push back on something. I don't think the Burks catch was, was Odell. I. It was a hell of a catch, but Odell's catch was so insane to me because he gripped the ball with one hand.
Commercial Narrator 2
Right.
Alan Hahn
He didn't like, he didn't sort of palm it and pull it in. If you look at it, he grabbed the back of the ball in the air. I just think the Odell catch was.
Peter Rosenberg
On a different level level and was interfered with.
Alan Hahn
And was interfered with and it was a longer pass. I mean, don't get me wrong, it was a sick play by Burks for sure, but I, I didn't think it was the, the Odell.
Peter Rosenberg
In case you missed it. I hate the Odell catch. The spies.
Alan Hahn
I. We know how you feel if it's dead to you for so many reasons.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, they lost the game.
Alan Hahn
Well, that's number one.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, well, I thought that's the reason why you try to catch balls.
Don Hahn
Yeah. The whole idea is having a, having a great play in a losing game is.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, but don't you think, Don, if he had gone on to not have issues and became an all time Giant, don't you think you probably would have. It would have aged a little differently.
Peter Rosenberg
I'm sure it would have. But. But I'm not even getting on him. It's just that where, where are we? Where are we gone with that? Like one playoff win since then, two playoff appearances. Yeah, it didn't end well for him. But let's say he stayed here was like an all time great Giant. I'm sure that would have led to a lot more successful football if he had been great and stayed here. But I'm not even bitter about that. I'm just bitter about the fact that we celebrate that damn catch. You still Lost the game. And where. What have you been since then, by the way?
Alan Hahn
You guys already have an insane catch like from a few years earlier. It was in a Super Bowl.
Peter Rosenberg
Super bowl.
Like even the Indy Chavez catch, which I don't care about because they lost that game. It still. It happened in game seven of the league championship series, for God's sakes, not regular season. On Sunday they lost.
Alan Hahn
Let's. Let's go to Trey in Jersey. Hey, Trey.
Peter Rosenberg
Hi, Trey.
Caller Lou
Hey guys, how's it going?
Peter Rosenberg
Hey, it's all happening.
Caller Trey
Trey sounds pretty good. So I'm sorry, I was taking my speaker off. So I'm a first time caller. I a big Devils and Commanders fan. So that knocks off to the pegs for you guys.
Peter Rosenberg
It works out same old.
Caller Trey
It definitely does. I'm also an aspiring hockey broadcaster. So Don, seeing you go to the Devils, that was dream come true. My two worlds combining.
Alan Hahn
That's awesome.
Peter Rosenberg
Thanks, man. Good luck with that.
Caller Trey
Well, thank you. So the. I do a lot of junior hockey and the junior league that I broadcast, the usphl. This goes back to the jersey argument you guys were having a little bit earlier. They swapped the home Jersey colors on January 1st. So the first half of the year they wear the dark jerseys and the second half of the year they wear the white jerseys. And they do this particularly for teams out in the west because out there in Idaho Falls and in Vernal, they have a ton of fan interest because there's not a whole lot of stuff out west for hockey, for the NHL.
Peter Rosenberg
And what are the fans?
Caller Trey
They do a lot. They sell a lot of jerseys.
Peter Rosenberg
Was that what do you think the fans prefer the, the, the colored jerseys or the white jerseys at home?
Caller Trey
I mean, personally I prefer the colored jerseys. You know, I'm not particularly a big fan of the Devil's road jerseys per se. That's just my take, but not sure if you know them switching on January 1st. Going from the colored jersey to the white jerseys could be a direction the NHL would go into.
Peter Rosenberg
But I know they obviously do the marketing for this stuff. I. I just know a lot of people are irritated by it, but doesn't look like it's going away anytime soon. But that's cool. Junior hockey games, man. Hopefully he makes it.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, he's grinding.
Peter Rosenberg
Maybe.
Alan Hahn
Let's go to Jose in Connecticut. What's up, Jose?
Peter Rosenberg
My guys.
Don Hahn
What's up, man?
Peter Rosenberg
Happy Friday.
Caller Lou
I just want to talk Gianna's stuff. Like I, I heard a ticket yesterday that like I didn't think about until like. And like A lot of people love OG and don't want to get rid of them, but I kind of don't want, right, a front. A front court of Mitchell, Giannis and og, because they're all injured right now. Either injured, injury prone or, you know, I feel like I can't trust that also with Jalen's ankles, right. So I would give up, unfortunately.
Peter Rosenberg
You got to give up.
Caller Lou
Give to get. Get to give, right. I would give up og. I keep Mikhail because he can, you know, he's healthy and he can shoot the three. I saw a trade. I don't really thought about it. I thought I saw a crazy trade idea. It was, you know, Knicks get Giannis, the Bucks get John Morant and Mitchell Robinson and then picks, obviously, a lot of picks. And then Memphis gets og. It may be like a Tyler kick or something. Wonder what he thought about that.
Peter Rosenberg
It just.
Caller Dick
About og, man.
Caller Lou
I think I just can't trust all these three guys together, man, being all injury prone.
Commercial Narrator 2
You know what I mean?
Don Hahn
I understand about the injury prone part of it, that that proposal is not terrible. If you ask me.
Again, like, I think OG's great and I think he might be coming back here sooner rather than later. Whether it's tonight or. Haven't seen any report. He's listed as questionable, last I saw. It could have changed in the time we've been on the show, but, you know, if. If, you know, he's playing the four, and so that's what Giannis plays. If you had a. If you had a scenario where you had Brunson, Giannis and Cat on the same team.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, but that can't happen.
Don Hahn
I don't know.
Alan Hahn
I don't know how.
Don Hahn
But that. That trade proposal kind of suggested such. Now, again, I don't know how you could possibly do this. The picks and everything else, but people are having fun with it. I'm telling you. I don't. I would not. I would not light a candle and hold the vigil. I don't think it's something you should be waiting for anytime soon, but it's fun to talk about.
Peter Rosenberg
But just be patient. I'm telling you.
Alan Hahn
Well, and a vigil. A vigil also implies someone died. So you don't. We don't want to do that regardless.
Don Hahn
Not always. Sometimes you just. You're waiting for something.
Alan Hahn
No.
Peter Rosenberg
That will die.
Don Hahn
Oh, yeah. Or should it be like, my God.
Alan Hahn
Should be like a Pope situation where, like, smoke comes out when a decision's been made. You know, one of those kind of deals.
Don Hahn
Look at this.
Commercial Narrator 2
Good Boy.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, look at this good boy Bear. He's been adjusting so well. 15 years old and really not freaking out here. I mean, he's been literally under my feet to like the point of like. I mean, Alan, you know, it's like a new space, so.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, he's not sniffing everything.
Don Hahn
Like, he's probably, he probably every corner. He's just getting all these smelling a lot.
Alan Hahn
But he's in it because of his age. He's just under my foot.
Don Hahn
He just wants to be next to me because it's, because it's, it's. Everything he's smelling is not familiar. He's not familiar to any of it. And now he's wondering what am I doing here? Why am I here? Yeah.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. Let me just hang with. Let me just hang. Let's just hang tight.
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Alan Hahn
Let's drive.
Don Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
Alan Hahn
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
Don Hahn
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Alan Hahn
What's the game called? Football.
Don Hahn
These are the Don, Han and Rosenberg pro picks.
Caller Dick
That's football.
Alan Hahn
Well, it's Happening. I suppose it is. It's time for week 14. Here are your standings. Don Legreca is gloriously in first place. A record of 19 and 20. 35 points. He was 2 and 1 last week. God, it's unreal. I think of Dom like actually doing well and then I look at his and he's not. I look at his record, I go this, for a normal year this would be bad. But then you have alan Han in second place. 16 and 24. 31 points. He already got his two point play yesterday, which is the opposite of me. I stupidly went against him for no good reason. And as a result I'm 13 and 27. By far the worst record I've ever dreamed of. 27 points. Oh, and one this week. And for as God awful as we all are, it's only eight points separating first and last place as we head into week 14. So we got a 14. Let me do some math. 14, 15, 16, 78. Five more weeks of regular season in the playoffs, guys. A lot of, lot of room to move still. So Donnie Pucks, you're in first place. Take it away.
Peter Rosenberg
All right, I'm going to go with a game I think you might have on your docket. The commies, they travel to Minnesota to take on the Vikings. They're getting two and a half. They get their quarterback back. And the Minnesota Vikings have lost four consecutive games against the spread, which is right now the longest streak currently going on in the NFL as Minnesota is definitely sinking fast. I like the commies as my one point play, getting two and a half on the road. The road theme is going to continue, guys, because they got the Rams in Arizona to take on the Cardinals. It's a hefty 8 1/2 points. But the Rams have to be licking their wounds after taking a step back, losing to Carolina. But you know, Carolina's above.500. There's no shame in losing to them. It just. We anointed LA as the team to beat in the NFC and they immediately lose. I think they're gonna bounce back and cover that number against the Cardinal team that's been an absolute mess. That's my two point play.
Alan Hahn
One, two, three point play.
Peter Rosenberg
And I'm digging the Seahawks, man. I know they've disappointed me a couple of times this year when I've picked them. But Atlanta, we saw them against the jets last week. They're just not a good football team. And even though the Seahawks are on the road, it's only seven. And I think the Seahawks are quietly becoming that team. And I would not be surprised if by the time we talk on Monday, we might be talking about the Seahawks as maybe the team that we anoint that might come out of the nfc. And plus the Hawks, you know, they've been, you know, miserable against the spread and the Seahawks are 93 against the spread in their last 12. So I like the Seahawks to cover the 7 is my 3, 3, 3 point play. So I like the Commies getting 2 1/2 as my 1 point play. I like the Rams favor by 8 1/2 as my 2 point play and the Seahawks favored by 7 as my 3, 3, 3 point Play. So I like three road teams this week.
Producer Anthony
Guys, I have to cut in here real quick.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, no.
Producer Anthony
We talked about if there was a big swing from what our Cover 5 lines were okay. To what the DraftKings line is for a game that we would address it.
Peter Rosenberg
Okay.
Producer Anthony
On DraftKings. Right now as it stands, you could check down on espn. The commanders are minus one and a half against the Vikings, not dogs. So that's a pretty big swing and I feel like I would be derelict of my duties not to bring it to everybody's attention. So should we, should we use that line? Should Don get a chance to either take that line or put pick something else or should we go with the COVID five line? I'm leaving this up to you guys because all three of you would then pick from this line.
Alan Hahn
Don, does it, does it affect your pick?
Peter Rosenberg
I mean, going from getting two and a half to now, you know, becoming the favorite in the game, but one and a half. But with two and a half, you know, I'm gonna stick with my pick of the commanders.
Producer Anthony
So it's. So we're gonna go with commanders minus.
Don Hahn
One and a half?
Peter Rosenberg
Yes. Okay.
Don Hahn
All right. Lock it in.
Peter Rosenberg
That's a big swing, guys. Yeah, that's a three point swing to you and me.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, well, I mean, keep it. We're doing. We're playing Yo Yo Reindeer Games first of all.
Peter Rosenberg
But cover five. I went to ESPN this morning doing these picks and it was the Vikings as the two and a half point favorites. I only want to blame cover five. I think there's a recent development.
Alan Hahn
So James gave them four points and.
Don Hahn
McCarthy was cleared that I took away.
Alan Hahn
Is that what it was?
Don Hahn
It didn't help, right? I don't think it helped.
Peter Rosenberg
David Borealis isn't starting for Minnesota this week.
Don Hahn
Aurora Borealis. All right, so I already have my two in the pocket and I'll take it. I really do wish I Believed in enough to make it a three. But that's okay because I've got a better three today.
Peter Rosenberg
You want to change it to three now? You could do that?
Don Hahn
No, I'm all set. Wait, you'd let me do that?
Alan Hahn
That'd be very generous of me. I'm sure Peter would have a problem with that.
Don Hahn
Peter would not be happy, but. All right. So my one point game, against my better judgment because of recent history with this team. However, unless Anthony corrects this spread that I have that he provided for us earlier today, this is what I'm going with because this is a really good game.
I'm taking the Steelers and I'm taking the six points. Wow. It's still six points.
Producer Anthony
Exactly the same.
Commercial Narrator 2
Still.
Don Hahn
Okay. Because at Baltimore, the Ravens have sucked at home this division, as we know the AFC North. It's always a grind, no question, but it's up for grabs, as you guys used to love to say. And Aaron Rodgers calls everybody out. They're fire. Chanting fire. Tomlin, the defense getting called out. There's something that happens when a veteran team circles the wagons in this type of. Of a situation. I could see them going in there singing renegade. And even if they lose, they'll lose. But it'll be like to me, six points is insane for a Baltimore team. That's. Yes, they're winning now. They're not winning pretty. And Lamar, ankle issues. Has in practice this week and he really hasn't looked that good. So I'll take the Steelers and the six for my one point.
Alan Hahn
Wow.
Don Hahn
Now my three point play.
Peter Rosenberg
Three, three, three.
Don Hahn
They saved me last week. I'm gonna believe in them again. Joe. Cool. Joe Burrow at Buffalo. Five and a half points. Correct me if I'm wrong, Anthony.
Producer Anthony
Checking now.
Commercial Narrator 2
All right.
Alan Hahn
That's what it says here. Sure.
Don Hahn
Okay. Put the five and a half points in my pocket. Joe Burrow. Not only can he beat Patrick Mahomes, he always beats Josh Allen 2 and 0 head to head. He's 3 and 0, by the way. The Bengals are 30 when he starts. And crazy enough, he's won his last eight consecutive starts.
Peter Rosenberg
How about that?
Don Hahn
And last but not least, the Bills have failed to cover against their last four. The last four games against opponents with a losing record. So I like this game with the Bengals. And that's my three point.
Peter Rosenberg
You know what these picks are, Peter?
That's what those picks are. Good for you, Alan. That's showing something.
Don Hahn
Put it right there.
Alan Hahn
Put it right on the table.
Well, listen. What am I doing, guys?
Come on, can I, can I? Look at me, look at me, look at me.
Don Hahn
You obviously.
Peter Rosenberg
When did you make these picks?
Don Hahn
3 minutes ago.
Alan Hahn
Hold on. Let Bear pick it.
Producer Anthony
What's the difference?
Peter Rosenberg
Hold on.
Alan Hahn
Got him.
Oh, well, you did you say bear.
Love the Bears?
Peter Rosenberg
Oh no, because I, I, because if you told me you did it like you worked on them this morning, I'd be like, you know what, why you bother? Don't let it take up too much of your day.
Alan Hahn
No, no, I did them right now. Now I've been riding with the Bears quite a bit. I'm. Listen, I don't know if the Bears can go winning Green Bay, but that six and a half point line to me is like, oh, it's cute you guys are winning games. Guess what, you're still going into Green Bay and getting blasted. No, no, I think the Bears are the real deal. I think they will play very close. Give me the Bears getting six and a half as Bear knocks into my camera as my one point play.
Don Hahn
All right.
Alan Hahn
Now you guys know I traditionally I, I try to not get emotionally involved even though sometimes I fail and I sometimes end up making a mistake in betting the commies. In this particular case, coming off a performance where they looked like they're starting to play like a football team again, getting the quarterback back. Yes, they have guys they haven't won since early October.
Peter Rosenberg
That's crazy. That's before holiday.
Alan Hahn
They're winning at some point. Getting two and a half favored by one and a half. Commies are going to win by three or seven. I like them to win in Minnesota. And if I'm going to die on my sword, make my commies my three point play.
For your ace.
Commercial Narrator 2
Right.
Alan Hahn
Have, have the sword go all the way through or all the way up.
Don Hahn
Impaled right through you. Right.
Alan Hahn
So who knows, you know, there's still Allen and I still have four points out on different games over the weekend. Weekend we could still come away with me down eight or tied up. So still a lot to do this weekend.
Peter Rosenberg
It's all happening.
Don Hahn
I picked two one o' clock games which means I could be driving home after the Knicks game on Sunday. Either I could be spamming you, Peter, text wise or I could be ghosting you don't want to hear. Listen, thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
Alan Hahn
I don't want to know how the.
Don Hahn
Sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear me more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 880 ESPN. The ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.
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Episode Date: December 5, 2025
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Summary Prepared by: Podcast Summarizer AI
This hour of the Don, Hahn & Rosenberg show is a lively blend of nostalgia, pop culture, and classic New York sports talk with the hosts riffing on 1970s radio songs, previewing the 2026 World Cup and its significance for US soccer, diving into the current state and future of the Jets, touching on NBA and NHL storylines, and wrapping with their NFL "Pro Picks" against the spread for the upcoming week. Listeners join in with calls, sparking debates and banter. The dynamic between the hosts is jovial, candid, and unapologetically rooted in their love for New York and all things sports.
[00:36 – 04:28]
[04:28 – 15:44]
Memorable Moment & Quote:
“That's how big it could get. I completely agree.” (Don Hahn)
“Soccer fans at that point are irrelevant. Respectfully. They're on their own podcasts.” (Hahn, 13:13)
[15:58 – 19:19]
[28:21 – 39:46]
[37:26 – 39:46]
On US soccer stakes:
“If they can't get out [of the group], is it time to just disband and give up this whole thing?” (Alan Hahn, 05:39)
On baseball vs. the World Cup:
“Let’s be honest… It begins in the middle of June… then it’s just nothing else. It’s baseball.” (Don Hahn, 09:25)
On U.S. soccer's impact if successful:
“If they could go to the semis… it would end up getting half the time every day. I guarantee you, it would be half of our show every day.” (Alan Hahn, 11:17)
On hosting but not really knowing soccer:
“Soccer fans at that point are irrelevant. Respectfully. They’re on their own podcasts… every casual now cares.” (Hahn, 13:13)
On American sports fans and learning soccer:
“I think there’s something compelling about all of us sort of learning it and watching it… we know sports, we know how sports works. We know what’s a moment, what’s a big deal.” (Don Hahn, 13:30)
[42:07 – 51:55]
The hosts are self-deprecating, irreverent, and authentically New York. They blend light-hearted musical pop culture references with passionate sports analysis and don’t avoid poking fun at themselves or their audience. Strong listener engagement comes through with calls that both challenge and amuse the hosts.
This episode captures the trio’s signature blend of sports talk and pop culture, with enough variety to keep both diehard and casual fans engaged. If you want insight into current New York sports, reflections on the bigger cultural sports moments, and plenty of laughs, this hour is a strong showcase of the show’s vibe.
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