Hour 3: World Series & Damien Woody

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg — Hour 3: World Series & Damien Woody

Podcast Date: October 30, 2025
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Special Guest: Damien Woody
Network: ESPN New York

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Episode Overview

This episode pivots between two major themes: a spirited discussion on the World Series matchup between the Blue Jays and the Dodgers, with close examination of narratives around postseason success and star performances (namely Shohei Ohtani), and an emotional, insightful interview with former NFL lineman Damien Woody reflecting on the legacy and sudden loss of his friend and teammate, Nick Mangold. The episode maintains the trio’s signature mix of deep sports insight, friendly banter, and cultural references.

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MLB World Series: Blue Jays, Dodgers & The Postseason “Crapshoot”

[00:43–21:50]

Key Discussion Points

• Sydney Sweeney Casting as Christy Martin

  • Conversation opens lightheartedly, amidst pop culture notes about Sydney Sweeney’s role as boxing legend Christy Martin.
  • The hosts reflect on Martin’s boxing career and juxtapose it with today’s era of female fighters.

• Blue Jays’ Transformation & Playoff Narrative

  • Discussion shifts to the Blue Jays’ Cinderella World Series run, coming off a last-place American League finish the prior year.
  • The “crapshoot” nature of the MLB playoffs becomes a central theme:
    • Is baseball’s postseason really random, or can regular-season dominance translate to a title?

• Yankees Fans’ Perspective

  • The hosts dissect the psychology of rooting for the team that knocked you out of the playoffs:
    • Peter Rosenberg [02:43]:
      “As a fan, I always want the team that knocked me out to win. Unless it was somebody that I absolutely despised because it makes me feel that nobody else was able to beat him.”
    • Don Hahn [03:39]:
      “They were punching up. They were being that annoying little brother team for a couple of years. ... And then last year they were bad. But they put it all together this year.”

• Approach to Team-Building & Managerial Style

  • Comments on how both Blue Jays manager John Schneider and Dodgers manager Dave Roberts balance analytics with gut instinct.
    • Don Hahn [07:14]:
      “But it just doesn’t it feel like these are two teams that the manager does have like that final say and he knows he can, he can go away from the plan.”

• Is the Postseason Truly a Crapshoot?

  • The crew debates whether the Blue Jays’ journey exemplifies randomness or effective team-building.
    • Peter Rosenberg [09:17]:
      “I think when you talk about crapshoot from regular season to postseason, this isn’t random. This is actually the way it’s supposed to be.”
    • The Brewers are given as a counterexample—regular-season prowess not translating to playoff wins.

• What Sets Postseason Winners Apart?

  • The group discusses the ingredients for October success—pitching depth, clutch resilience, and momentum.
    • Don Hahn [13:28]:
      “Pitching is everything. It’s everything. It’s why you have a chance. It’s why you can go from a devastating loss in the next. There’s no momentum in the sport. None. ... All it is is your pitcher dominant. You have a chance to win.”
  • The Blue Jays’ ability to shed their “little brother” persona and deliver in big moments is contrasted with the Yankees' struggles.

• Shohei Ohtani’s Postseason Heroics & Fatigue
  [16:23–21:50]

  • Ohtani's superhuman performance analyzed, but also the limits—did the epic 18-inning Game 3 gas him for the rest of the series?
    • Alan Hahn [16:23]:
      “How much was... [Game 3] took out of him? ... There was no days off. Is he going to be better in Game 6 just because there's a day off, Catch his breath?”
    • Peter Rosenberg [17:32]:
      “The equivalent would be Stanley Cup Final Game 3, and Jack Hughes scores a hat trick, two assists, five-point night, scores the game-winning goal in overtime and he’s starting in goal the next game.”
    • Ohtani’s feats are compared to historic, one-of-a-kind moments (e.g. Babe Ruth, Carlton Fisk home run).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Blue Jays’ Rise:

  • Don Hahn [05:13]:
    “This team feels like the definition of crapshoot. Just get it right at the right time and get on a run. That’s literally what they did, right?”

• On Managerial Philosophy:

  • Don Hahn [08:18]:
    “I do think that they allow John Schneider to manage, and I think he does manage from the gut.”

• On Yankees Postseason Woes:

  • Don Hahn [14:34]:
    “I’m waiting to see when the Yankees take something personal.”
  • Peter Rosenberg [14:55]:
    “But we forgot the reason you were there in the first place. That whole swoon that they go through for every six weeks during the year where they bury themselves by just playing terrible baseball.”

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Iconic Sports Moments That Lose Their “Luster” in Defeat

[21:50–29:46]

• Debates whether singular epic performances (like Ohtani’s or the “Damian Fish” home run) maintain legacy if the team ultimately loses.
  • Peter Rosenberg [27:23]:
    “The only time... that a win for a team that eventually lost, still had legs, was the Fisk home run in ‘75.”
  • Don Hahn [47:04], later in the show: “It’s basically the Mr. November Home Run by Derek Jeter... That’s still referenced in baseball, isn’t it?”

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NFL: Remembering Nick Mangold and Reflections with Damien Woody

[25:23–39:38]

A Tribute to Nick Mangold

[26:18–31:10]

• Damien Woody’s Emotional Remembrance:

  • Describes Mangold as more than a great player—a Hall of Fame person, husband, and community member.
    • Damien Woody [26:18]:
      “Nick was a brother. ... Nick was one of those guys that always kept the mood light. ... Nick was one of one. He was maybe the best lineman that I ever played with during my career... not only Nick Mangold, in my opinion is a Hall of Fame player, but he's a Hall of Fame person.”
  • Shares how sudden Mangold’s passing was even to those close to him, emphasizes value of time, and details receiving the news with former teammates.

• Mangold's Impact on the Jets

  • Damien Woody [30:22]:
    “For me, it was just like, sign me up because I looked at the opportunity and look at the talent that was on the office line. ... For that, you know, three years we were... the best offensive line in football.”

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NFL Talk: Giants, Jets, and New England's Revival

[31:10–39:38]

• On Giants’ Rookie QB Jackson Dart and Coaching Future

  • Woody evaluates Dart’s development as promising and stresses the critical importance of franchise infrastructure and coaching stability as the season continues.

• On New York Market Pressure

  • Damien Woody [33:36]:
    “In New York is unlike anywhere else. ... As a competitor, you should embrace playing in this environment... if you do, man, you're like a made man, I can tell you that.”

• On Patriots Resurgence & Mike Vrabel

  • Predicts the Patriots are “back” and praises the Vrabel hire and McDaniels’ return as offensive coordinator.
    • Damien Woody [36:32]:
      “It was just like Mike Vrabel to New England was the easiest coaching, you know, fit that there was out there. ... When you pair him with Drake May, now you seeing Drake May playing at an MVP type of level.”

• On Winning in New York

  • Damien Woody [35:48]:
    “There's nothing like winning in New York. Nothing like winning in New York. It's just... a totally different vibe.”

• Who's Winning the NFC?

  • Picks the Detroit Lions as current favorites over traditional favorites like the Eagles.
    • Damien Woody [39:15]:
      “I'm gonna go Detroit.”

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Listener Calls & Final Banter

[50:25–51:44]

• Entertaining listener call about the “100 Grand” candy bar during Peter’s “wedding table” candy ranking bit.
• Closing lighthearted banter about James Taylor, the Rock Hall, and enduring YouTube technical difficulties during the storm, with enthusiastic appreciation for the behind-the-scenes production team.

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Notable Quotes & Fun Moments

• On "100 Grand" Candy Bars:
  • Lou from the Bronx [50:33]:
    “If you ever get canceled by ESPN, you can go right to Comedy Central because I laugh out loud every day.”
• On James Taylor and Flavor Flav:
  • Alan Hahn [43:17]:
    “But Flavor Flav recognized. He goes, let me jump out of your picture, and I got to get the solo with me and the great JT.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:43] — Sydney Sweeney/World Series/Blue Jays narrative begins
• [05:13] — “Crapshoot” playoff debate
• [14:34] — Yankees’ repeated playoff shortcomings
• [16:23] — Shohei Ohtani’s fatigue and impact
• [21:50] — Iconic moments that lose legacy in defeat
• [25:23] — Transition to NFL and remembrance of Nick Mangold
• [26:18] — Damien Woody’s tribute to Mangold
• [31:10] — Giants, Jackson Dart, and coaching talk
• [36:32] — Patriots resurgence with Vrabel & McDaniels
• [39:15] — NFC favorite pick: Detroit
• [50:25] — Listener call: “100 Grand” wedding table bit
• [43:17] — James Taylor & Flavor Flav story

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Tone & Style

This episode is driven by sharp, sometimes irreverent, New York sports banter and deep affection for the city’s teams and sports legends. The discussion is lively and fast-paced, but makes deliberate room for reflection, especially during the heartfelt segment about Nick Mangold. The hosts’ rapport leads to frequent playful interruptions and inside jokes, with Rosenberg always ready with a memorable analogy or pop culture pull.

Transcript

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[Don Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

Anthony reminded me, by the way before the break that not only did Sydney Sweeney have an incredible appearance at the World Series a couple nights ago, but her appearance yesterday on like the red carpet for the Christie movie was.

[Don Hahn]

I mean it wasn't the Variety event.

[Alan Hahn]

Is that what it was, was it? Variety?

[Don Hahn]

Power of women.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sure.

[Alan Hahn]

It was the power of something. Power, love.

[Don Hahn]

Feel the power.

[Alan Hahn]

If all you feel. I felt the power.

[Don Hahn]

Did you feel the power?

[Alan Hahn]

Feel the power? I mean, Let me say Ms. Hatton know about this, that I felt the power. Well, Ms. Hatton was with me when we first were watching Whatchamacallit, the hbo, the Fakocte HBO shows. On the first scene when everything was on the table and we went, whoa. Well, hello, who is this person by the way? And no one really appreciates, I think, the irony of her playing Christy Martin. I mean, do you guys remember Christy Martin? Her career like Christy Martin was a lady who was like a boxing legend when the only two women boxers anyone knew were Layla Ali and Christy Martin. Right? Like this was not the era we're living in right now of Clarissa Shields and all these other amazing fighters and Christy Martin. I mean, please look up a picture of her. She wrestled in like a dirty white tank top. This was not a sexy period. So Sydney, having her played by an absolute starlet to me is amazing. But I'm looking forward to seeing that now. Not as sexy were the results for the Dodgers the last couple of days. Shohei Ohtani, since we talked about him being the best ballplayer on earth, has laid a complete egg, played it, you know, pitched an average game a couple of nights ago and and then has just looked completely under it at the plate and ofer since being amazing a couple of days ago. So Don, you asked the question before the show how do Yankee fans feel right now? Does it make them feel? Is your thought that maybe if you're a Yankee fan, you feel a little bit better that the team that beat you, rather than just being eliminated afterwards, is maybe on their way one win away from being World Series champion?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I just, as a fan, I always want the team that knocked me out to win. Unless it was somebody that I absolutely despised because it makes me feel that nobody else was able to beat him. Where if the Dodgers beat them, you start kicking yourself, like, where were we? Remember when they lost the first two games at home to Seattle? Wasn't the conversation why Seattle having their way with Toronto and we got blown out by him. What's going on? So I would think that there'd be a level of satisfaction that, hey, nobody was able to get the best of the Blue Jays, the Dodgers, who have a payroll higher than the Yankees, couldn't beat them. So from a fan perspective, I would think as Yankee fans are disappointed they're not as good as the Blue Jays. And asking the question, why is that the case when they've got what, the third highest payroll and the Blue Jays have the seventh? But maybe an air of, hey, well, hey, listen, nobody was able to be. Mariners couldn't beat them, Dodgers couldn't beat him, we couldn't beat them. Join the Join the club. Misery loves company.

[Don Hahn]

It's amazing too when you see the style of play and that's going to be a big part of it, right? How they put pressure on your defense. They get on the base pads, they can hit home runs, but they don't rely on it pitching. You know, again, you savage this guy, as you know, in the American League east, deal with him now for the next couple of years, right? Like, you just know that he's got, he's definitely special in a big moment, in a big spot, not rattled, absolutely dominant. What a performance. So you have that aspect, but you, you said something, Don, that like when we talked about the Blue Jays a couple of weeks ago, that came back to me when I was, you know, when, when I'm going through what they did last night and how all of a sudden they've got a stranglehold on a series that just two days ago felt like, how are they coming back from that 18 inning loss? And I said, this was a team that finished in last. This was a team that like anywhere else, it's just blow it up. It sucks. It's not going to happen. You know, they didn't have Bichette, he got hurt but yet they find a way. And they went from rags to riches. They went from that team that was trying to. Trying to climb. They were punching up. They were being that annoying little brother team for a couple of years. And then last year they were bad. But they put it all together this year, and the gamble on Bieber pays off big in the World Series. You savage. Turns into something I don't even think they knew they had until late in the year. Very similar to Schlitler for the Yankees. But is that the definition, Don. Of crapshoot?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I.

[Don Hahn]

Did I just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Don Hahn]

Or did I just stump you? I thought you'd have a quick response.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm sorry. No, I mean, because I'm now here, Peter.

[Don Hahn]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't misunderstand. What I'm trying to say is that you're the one that brought up the idea that this is a team that was in last place last year and all that stuff. And, and we've been talking about crapshoot, and this team feels like the definition of crapshoot. Just get it right at the right time and get on a run. That's literally what they did, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, in the grand scheme of things, because they were in last place last year, but they were the best team in the American League. They did win the tiebreaker against the Yankees.

[Don Hahn]

They had the same amount of wins. Right, But.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But yes, Detective, and they dominated the Yankees during the course of the year. They earn that spot in the American League east. And not that they've necessarily taken advantage of the home field. And we'll see if they. If they take advantage here. The Dodgers may not be dead. We might have a conversation next week about how the Blue Jays blew it, but, you know, right now they're a win away with two games at home, potentially to be able to wrap it up. But that was the conversation we had about the Yankees. The Yankees will point and say, well, we didn't finish in last place last year. We don't do that. We don't bottom out the way the Blue Jays did. Yeah, the Blue Jays won, but last year they were last place and we went to the World Series. That, that victory lap that the Yankees like to take for being consistent. And yet there are teams that are winning championships. They can get off the mat. So, yeah, there's the crapshoot of, hey, we went from last place to first place. But there's also the. We made our corrections and we put it together. We won 94 games, had the best record to have home field advantage throughout and we get with the home field advantage of the World Series against the big, bad, know, defending champion Dodgers, and now, now look what we did. They were the best team in baseball. So is it a crapshoot because they were in last place last year, or is it not a crapshoot because they earned everything this year? And what they were able to do with the regular season, for the most part, they've been able to translate into the posties.

[Don Hahn]

It just has that, like, I keep coming back to the quote now. Again, what we've learned is Cashman insists he never said it, and it's a, it's a Billy Bean quote. We established that earlier this week and I'm glad we did. But it's so funny how after, after we have bemoaned this for so long that here are the Blue Jays kind of showing us that maybe it really is that, like, yeah, they built this team properly. They have a system, they have a way. I do think that they allow John Schneider to manage, and I think he does manage from the gut. I do think that he's a little more I. Both these managers, right? Robert's same way. They all use the numbers. There's no question. They all have a plan with pitchers. There's no question. But it just doesn't it feel like these are two teams that the manager does have like that final say and he knows he can, he can go away from the plan. Was it, was it, was it Scherzer? Who was it? He walked out and, and he was going to take him out. No, Scherzer said, okay, who was it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is.

[Don Hahn]

It was. It was one of the last. These games, one after the other. But I know there was one where when Schneider says, when I'm. When I'm jogging out, you have a chance to talk me out of taking you out. If I walk out, you're out. And he walked out and he still was able to. Whoever the pitcher was now. And I apologize for not remembering, but had a talk with him and then he left and. But then he gave up a hit and he took him out the next time. That feels a little bit more like I have control over the game. Their style of play is a little more also appealing to the eye. It's a little more baseball, right? The Dodgers live and die with the home run, right? They make contact, they don't strike out. It just feels a little more appealing. But they were in last place last year playing that way, and now they're about. They're on the verge of winning a World series. Their first one since 93. There does seem to be a bit of a randomness, if that's a word that Cashman used to this. When I give it to you in that, in that context. No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I guess it's, it's kind of like picking it apart because I think what the Yankees are saying is when they talk about crapshoot is though, can you translate your game into the postseason? You're great in the regular season. You build a team that wins X amount of games, win the division, get into the playoffs. We can do that. Yankees have proven they can do that. But does what you did in 162 translate into the postseason? And they're telling you that it's a completely different animal playoff. How you win in the regular season is different than the postseason and there's a randomness to who wins. But what I would turn around and say, all right, maybe there's a randomness year to year for the Blue Jays, but what they did in the regular season, they had the second best record of baseball, best record in the American League, and they're a win away from winning the World Series. So to me, that says not a crapshoot. They were able to take what they did well in the regular season, apply it to the postseason. Right? They were dominant against the Yankees in the regular season. They dominated them in the postseason. So I don't, I think you're saying you're talking about crapshoot as far as year to year, but I think when you talk about crapshoot from regular season to post season, this isn't random. This is actually the way it's supposed to be.

[Don Hahn]

Okay?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because the team with the best record, the only other team that had a kick coming was Milwaukee. But we've seen the history of the Brewers. They don't win in the postseason.

[Don Hahn]

And that's the randomness, but so good during the regular season. Can't get it done in the post.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What is it randomness? Or is it just, hey, maybe they just don't have the, the guys that can handle that kind of pressure. Think of the Blue Jays. You, you beat, you slay the Yankees. You finally get that monkey off your back and you lose the first two games at home to Seattle. But you get off the mat and you win, you lose. An 18 inning game in game three. An epic game for the ages. We're going to remember that game forever. Peter asked the question. It was a legitimate one. Can the Blue Jays get up from it? Two games in L A. One of both, one of both going away.

[Don Hahn]

Amazing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Shut down the hero from game three.

[Don Hahn]

Right. They got great pitching. And that's the great equalizer when you have that. But you didn't know what Bieber. They traded for Bieber not knowing what they were going to get. He had no idea he was coming off the surgery. Right. You didn't know what you were going to get out of him. And he just got right at the right time. It was a hell of a performance that he gave you. And then this kid. So it's a great equalizer. And they found it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And they're one win away, man, going home. Right. And now. Now the question has to be, how do the Yankees get to where the Blue Jays are now? They haven't won yet. We'll see. But if they end up winning one of these next two and they win the World Series, the question Yankee fans should have is why do they have it and we don't, you know, because the Yankees haven't been able to get off the mat in the postseason. Right. They haven't been able to make the runs necessary to win. They're great in the regular season. Why doesn't it translate to the postseason, guys? Why. And you said Milwaukee, they can't do it either. And for years, Toronto couldn't do it.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Toronto was a perennial playoff team. Couldn't get over the hump in the postseason. So what is it? Is it the randomness of. All right.

[Don Hahn]

Just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's just. It's Toronto's year. What are you going to do? Or is there something about this team? Did they finally grow a pair? It is just now they can handle the ups and downs of the postseason.

[Don Hahn]

I think it's pitching. I just. I just think it's. You could say, oh, you got a picture last night.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They showed it, the graphic. He was an A ball.

[Don Hahn]

I know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

In September he didn't make. He didn't pitch in the major leagues till like, what, the middle of September.

[Don Hahn]

It's wild.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now he's pitching high leverage games, which.

[Don Hahn]

Again, and the Yankees found that in Schlitler. And I'd like to believe that he'd sort of be the same. He would give you kind of the same. I don't know if he's Dolly. That was. Last night, was ridiculously dominant. But I'm saying, like, he. You want to believe that. That's kind of the same thing you found with Schlitler that you want to believe in going forward.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

And if you get Cole, when do you think you'll get cold next year? The June. Right. You'll get him for the second half. Wouldn't you? All right, so you have him earlier.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, this won't happen for training.

[Don Hahn]

Maybe you're not gonna have radon for a while. Like. Like you. Like you. Pitching is everything. It's everything. It's why you have a chance. It's why you can go from a devastating loss in the next. There's no momentum in the sport. None. It's unreal. And all it is is your pitcher dominant. You have a chance to win. And that's what they were. That's what they've been getting. Don. They weren't great in the second half. They had a great second quarter of the season. Right before All Star break where they took. They took the division away from the Yankees. When the Yankees started faltering, when they were great. And then they just started slipping. They had that terrible run. But the Blue Jays had their own slip, which is why the anchors are able to catch them, because they were. Remember that. That they. They also started to slip. But then they got right at the right time. And maybe it's like you said, they also played the exact team they needed to play right out of the gate. The team they own, the team they dominate, and the team they felt personal when they were going up against. It was personal for the Blue Jays to play the Yankees. I'm waiting to see when the Yankees take something personal.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a chance. Last year. Right? They had the chance last year. The Dodgers danced on their grave.

[Don Hahn]

Yep.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Then you would think that would be the mission statement all winter long is we're not gonna let that happen again. And I saw pretty much the same team because let's not forget they got hot at the end of the year. But what was the problem? Kicking the ball around. Not. Not running the base as well. Bad fundies.

[Don Hahn]

Yep.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then. Then we kind of forgot about it because they got hot and they handled the gauntlet down there and they gave the Blue Jays all they can handle before the end of the regular season. But we forgot the reason you were there in the first place. That. That whole swoon that they go through for every six weeks during the year where they bury themselves by just playing terrible baseball. And then, you know, the postseason is kind of in the postseason. But if you couldn't do it last year with the Los Angeles Dodgers are dancing on you. Every interview they did, they wanted to point out how they were better than you. How they knew that they were going to beat you.

[Don Hahn]

Yep.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because they saw the weaknesses and exploited them. I don't know what Else you need.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

Right? Now how much was. That's when you ask again, the fatigue factor is how much did that game take out of him? Because, and then he had to pitch the next day, which you know, again, he, he wasn't dominant. He wasn't bad, but he wasn't dominant. And I mean he had some moment. He went, I think he had four. He struck out the side in the fourth and then he, and he let off the fifth with a strikeout as well. So four straight K's at one point. So there were moments. But that does also, if you think about it, an 18 inning game where you're on base nine times, a couple of home runs, couple of doubles, you're running, you're stealing a base. So you have all that going on and then the next night you're pitching. I, I just wonder if maybe because they did not. There was no days off. Is he going to be better in Game 6 just because there's a day off, Catch his breath. Are we going to see him get back in a groove or was is his groove over now? As he was, he was on a heater, as Don says, he was on a toot. But maybe that has been stopped. And is it less what the Blue Jays have done with him and more. Bieber's approach with him was excellent. He had him chasing, but he just looked tired, didn't he? He did not look the same after that 18. Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And because we don't know, we have, we have no, we have nothing to compare it to. I was, I was talking to the guys last night. We went out to dinner. And I was actually, I was talking to Sheldon Keefe, the head coach of the, of the, of the Devils name drop, about Ohtani and, and we were talking about Ohtani and I said the, the equivalent would be Stanley cup final game three. And Jack Hughes scores a hat trick, two assists, five point night, scores the game winning goal in overtime and he's starting in goal the next game.

[Don Hahn]

Right, Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's insane. And everybody laughed, like, imagine that. Like, because it would never happen.

[Alan Hahn]

But that's what it is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It happened in the World Series. We have nothing to compare it to. I don't know, you know, if you go back to the 1918 World Series when Ruth did what he did, you know what the fatigue factor was for him, who knows? But we don't have anything really in the last hundred years to compare what that must have been like for him to be on the base nine straight times in a huge win, then have to pitch a World Series game the next day. So, and with no day off, even in my hockey analogy, Alan, they would have had the next day off. They wouldn't have played game four until, you know, if they played game three on a Tuesday, Thursday they'd be playing game, but you'd have a day off like, so now he gets rest. They did a fly across the country, so we'll see how they handle that. But, and let's not forget too, baseball's hard. Like, so it's gonna humble everybody. I mean, no matter how hot you were, it's not what just wasn't game three. He's been hot the whole postseason, the whole World Series. So is it just. Hey, baseball's hard. They're gonna get, you're gonna get your outs. There's a lot of outs in that bat, as they say. Or was he just shot? I mean, how could you not be, man? Doing something that's never been done before.

[Alan Hahn]

In Kristen, I mean, on base nine times. It's. It's a crazy thing.

[Don Hahn]

If they're going. If the Dodgers win this World Series, he'll have to factor in, which will easily make him the mvp. Right. But that's, that's it. He's going to have to factor in if they're going to win this thing. And that would take two road games. And that's, you know, that would be unbelievable that really, they think about now the story like you wanted it. Don, you said you wanted. After that game, you're like, this series now has to go the distance to make it epic, to make that game become an all Timer, this can't end in game. I don't even think it can end in Game 6 with the, with the Toronto winning three in a row because that would also take some, some of.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The, that would definitely take. It has to take some of the.

[Don Hahn]

Epic out of that game three. Right? It would, it would be. It's a great story to tell in Toronto. It's a great Blue Jays story to tell, but I think it's got to go seven and, and you know, the, the bigger story now is can the Dodgers make that comeback or does it go 7 and still Toronto wins it? That makes it a more epic World Series 1. We'll be talking.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's so interesting because listen, we were all giddy after Game 3 because we saw, what we saw was unbelievable. But it's just not going to age the same if the Dodgers don't even win the Series. It's one thing. Had they won, you know, the next two games one and five, at least this epic game three led to a championship. Imagine that. That's the last game they won. Then it's like, so what? Like it was an epic game. We never saw anything like that before. But what did it mean anyone? They lost the next three games and lost the series in six.

[Don Hahn]

Right, right. It's, it's the, it's the line. Of course, you know, you say you won the 18 inning, you know, marathon. What did it cost? Everything.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, it's like the grand single. What I complained about the grand single. Like what did it matter that still lost the series anyway? The only, the only time, I think at least in the World Series that a win for a team that eventually lost, still had legs was the Fisk home run in 75. Like they still show that.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And they had lost game seven. They lost a series. Now was that because the Red Sox never win or at least you're forced to game seven, you know, but most of the time it gets lost. If you don't win the series, guys, it just, yeah, it's going to get lost. If the Dodgers come back and win the series, I think that game three will go down as a part of forever, but it's just going to be, oh, remember when. And have to think about it. If the Toronto Maple Toronto Blue Jays win the series.

[Don Hahn]

You gave me Fisk. That's a good one. Is there, is there another one that you can remember that the team lost but the moment still became an all time moment in the sport. Not, not for the team because you know, again, the Starks dunk, everybody forgets they lost the series, but Nick's, you know, that's still a memorable moment for all the reasons that we know, but it's not an NBA moment. Give me the n, give me the, the, the, the sports moment. And the team lost. Fisk is a great one because that's like, that was, that was absolutely epic.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What else you think about that?

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Dhr, Don Hahn and Rosenberg on ESPN New York on a rainy, rainy, crazy day before Halloween. And every week at this time, we are lucky enough to talk to our friend Damian Woody. It's time for the Damian Woody Report. BET 365 Time now. The Damian Woody Report brought to you by BET365. Damian, man, we wanted to try to get you on earlier in the week. Obviously you were busy and had a lot going on and we have, we have a lot of things to get to in the world of the NFL. But we'd be remiss to not start off asking you about the loss of your friend. And really all of our friend here, the great Nick Mangold, who you obviously different kind of relationship, would love to hear about the man as a player, as a friend and just what you'd want to share with New York about Nick Mangold.

[Damian Woody]

Yeah, man, I, I appreciate you asking me, man. Nick was a brother. You know, anyone that plays in the NFL, if you're a teammate, even if you're not a teammate, you're still part of a brotherhood. And Nick was a brother. We spent so much time together. You know, when you're in those facilities, you spend more time together than you do your own family. So guys become family. And you know, just so many, so many times, man, whether meetings or just hanging out, the facilities, the laughs, you know, Nick was one of those guys that always kept the mood light. He was guy that liked to joke around. But when it was time to work, he worked. And you know, on the football field, Nick was, Nick was one of one. He was maybe the best lineman that I ever played with during my career in the national Football league, always putting us in the right position. And this is coming from a guy who was drafted as a first round center. And so I have a different appreciation for the job Nick Mango did playing, playing the position that I played when I came into the league. But I think more importantly, man, is not only Nick Mango, in my opinion is a Hall of Fame player, but he's a Hall of Fame person. He's a Hall of Fame husband. Just the way I just watched him, you know, with, with his wife Jenny and his kids and all the charitable work that Nick Mango did, not only throughout his years, years in the National Football League, but out, outside, you know, post career. So, you know, it's, I can speak for all the, you know, all the player, all his former teammates, people who knew him. Nick was just a, just a class individual through and through.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did you get a chance to talk to him at all recently?

[Damian Woody]

Yeah, I told him like three weeks ago, to be honest with you. You know, listen, everyone knows that, you know, Nick requested the, you know, a kidney. Obviously, you know, when I talked to him, he was tired, but he didn't, you know, it just kind of caught, you know, myself and other guys by surprise because we just didn't expect it to happen, something like that to happen so fast. And I always tell people the most precious commodity that we have is time because we just don't get, we don't get more time. And, and we all, you know, thought Nick was going to be around longer and, and. But we just, you know, we just want to cherish the life of the man that we had grown accustomed to knowing and cherishing his memory.

[Don Hahn]

Woody, how'd you find out? And I had heard that, that you. Did you tell, like you told Rex Ryan, like, how did. Because it was so sudden. Obviously it was Sunday and everybody's getting ready, you know, for all the football coverage and everything like that. So take us through that. Yeah, man.

[Damian Woody]

I actually, I got a call from Alan Fanica, obviously one of, one of, one of the, one of our line mates. He had just got off the phone with his wife Jenny and, and got the news and, and, and I was, I think I was his first call and I was in Bristol between sports and the hits and it just, it just, it just hit both of us like a ton of bricks, man, because again, it was just shocking, but. Because not only did I talk to Nick, but Allen had, had talked to Nick and spent time with Nick as well. And so, you know, we just spent time on the phone crying and just kind of talking about Things. Trying to take it all in. And I did call Rex Ryan after. After Alan, you know, told me and, and. And Rex was shocked as well.

[Don Hahn]

So.

[Damian Woody]

Yeah, man, it's just, you know, you just. You're never ready for it for, you know, something like that to happen. But again, you know, I'm just. I'm just appreciative of the time that I had with Nick on this earth, man. And, you know, it's. It's still. It's still hard to really, really think about that. This man is no longer here.

[Don Hahn]

If I could follow up, you. You and Fanica kind of raised him right. Like you guys came in as the vets and you had to have seen it right away with him, right? Like. Like this guy's got it. Him and Brick.

[Damian Woody]

Oh, yeah. I mean, that was, that was like. That was like the main reason why I came to the jets, to be honest with you. Both Alan and I, we saw what, what this, what this office line had, you know, with the, with the, with the young pups, I like to call them Nick and Brick and, and Brandon Moore and, and at the time, we saw what Eric Mangini was trying to do and trying to build. And for me, it was just like, sign me up because I looked at the opportunity and look at the talent that was on the office line. I was like, man, we could be something special. And I feel like, you know, for that, you know, three years we were. I feel like we were the best offensive line in football. So again, a lot of that had to do with. With Nick and being the best center in the game and just putting us in positions to be successful.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, well, so the more mundane, fortunately, and in the footpro football that we watch every single Sunday, obviously tough week for the New York Giants. That loss of Cam Scatterboo certainly hurts from an emotional standpoint and also from a productivity standpoint.

[Kevin Clark]

Would.

[Alan Hahn]

He'd been a really sort of a comfort piece, if you will, for the quarterback to have. What did you make from Jackson darts performance and what do we need to see moving forward over the next few weeks? I'll tell you right now, a lot of people here, D Wood, they may be paying more attention to what Daniel Jones is doing every week and comparing that to what they're seeing from Jackson Dart here.

[Damian Woody]

Well, first of all, I don't think that's fair. I don't think that's fair at all considering the two circumstances are totally different. I mean, you know, when I talk about quarterbacks and players in general, one of the first things I talk about is infrastructure, right? What, you know, the environment in which these guys have the potential to thrive. And clearly, you know, just think about the trajectory of Daniel Jones. He, you know, in training camp he was in a quarterback battle with Anthony Richardson and look how well he's playing. That's not, that's not coincidence. Look at the talent. You know, he has an MVP candidate in his backfield, you know, at the running backs, Jonathan Taylor, running back slot spot. He has an elite offensive line around, around him, elite weapons. It's just, he just littered with all type of talent, both in the coaching staff and players. And you know, when I look at Jackson Dart, the dude definitely got the goods, man. I say this about the Giants this season, this season was about Jackson Dart. And I think, you know, for, from everybody that's been watching, it's clear as day that Jackson Dart is that guy. I think the next piece of the puzzle is, is the coach, you know, a guy that you can carry on to next season and beyond. And I think that's what these next 10, you know, 10 weeks is going to be about. As far, as far as Brian Dabel is concerned.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now you're right that Indianapolis has a lot of pieces the Giants didn't have. But it's also been suggested, it was talked about on Get Up Today. Is it just easier to play in Indianapolis than is in New York? Now you've played multiple places. Is it harder with the spotlight and the media and what the fans expectations are, Is it harder to, to play in New York?

[Damian Woody]

I will say this, Don. Like in New York is unlike anywhere else. The spotlight, spotlight is definitely on you. But here was my mindset when I played with the jets is that I think if you're worth any, anything in gold, like if you have any, any type of what I call piss and vinegar about you, you embrace playing in this market, you embrace playing in New York, New York. Because the one thing I will say is that everyone knows I played five years in New England, won two Super Bowls and that's great, but man, when we were winning it, when I was with the jets and we went to those back to back championship games, there was nothing like it. The experience in New York was just unlike anything, anything that I ever been around. And so as a competitor, you should embrace playing in this environment and going out here and trying to turn this thing around. Because if you, you do, man, you're like a made man, I can tell you that.

[Don Hahn]

It really is amazing, isn't it? Right? There is a huge contrast because the guys you talk to that were on the, like, losing teams, no matter what the sport, they talk about how, like, you didn't want to go out because you had to hear about it all the time. It. It took away from the experience. And then the ones that were like, I remember guys who were on bad teams and then they were able to come back to be on a good. And they, and they wanted to come back. They even took pay cuts to come back because it's like, I just wanted to know what it was like. Like, I just wanted to know that side of it because it's exactly, you know, what you described. It really is an amazing contrast of two totally different lifestyles in New York between just simply winning and losing. If you're an athlete.

[Damian Woody]

Absolutely, man. I mean, just take a look at, look at the Knicks. Look at how good. Look at the run the Knicks went on last year and how it transformed, you know, the, the energy that the city produced because the Knicks were doing well. You know, I was always envious of the Giants when they were, you know, when they were winning those championships right around the same time that I was with the jets, man. And so, like, honestly, there's nothing like winning in New York. Nothing like winning in, in New York. It's just. It's just a totally different vibe.

[Don Hahn]

Nothing like winning in New York. It's just really hard to do, apparently. Your. I hate to do this, but I have to. One of your former teams seems like they're back. The Patriots look like they're back. Is. Is. Was Mike Vrabel the most obvious coaching hire they could make. And even though that's tough to, you know, a guy like Mayo, who was his blood in the ground there and in New England, but you realize this isn't the guy they hire Vrabel and, and obviously drafting Drake May. But are you sensing in New England that if I'm Buffalo, I'm a little worried that if I don't get one soon, I'm going to have a tough time getting out of my own division.

[Damian Woody]

Well, let me say a couple things I said before the season. The page was going to make the playoffs. It was just like Mike Braver to New England was the easiest coaching, you know, fit that there was out there. Former player, beloved player, you know, Patriots hall of Fame player, you know, going back and obviously coaching, you know, for the Patriots, that was a slam dunk. And, and I thought not only Mike Brave was a slam dunk, but then Bringing back Josh McDaniel was a slam dunk. A Lot of people. A lot of people don't like. Like, don't remember Josh. Well, you can say whatever you want about Josh McDaniels, the head coach. Josh McDaniels is one of the elite offensive minds that we've had in our game. And so when you pair him with Drake May. Now you seeing Drake May playing at an MVP type of level, he's playing that well. And I will say this in regards to Buffalo, okay, You had this division for six years. Six years that you. You reigned supreme over the AFC east. And what. What have you gotten out of it? Zero. Nothing. Not a championship to speak of. And so if I'm Buffalo, if I'm a fan of the bit of the Bills, I will be worried right now because, yes, the Patriots are back.

[Alan Hahn]

God, it didn't last long enough.

[Don Hahn]

And the Chiefs aren't going away either. D. Wood, did you guys have something about logos on the floor in the locker room in any of the places you played? Because Don talked about something that needs to be talked about earlier in the show, which is teams that have the logo on the. In the carpet, in the floor, in the locker room, they flip out if you walk on it. Meanwhile, the logos in center on center, in the middle of the field, midfield or center court, wherever it is, and people are running all over the damn thing. Have you ever had those types of things in your locker rooms?

[Damian Woody]

No, I don't think we. Like, really. I think that's more sports specific. You know, maybe Don can speak to it. As far as hockey, I think that's a thing in hockey, but I know it's football. It's not definitely not really a thing or anything like that. So, you know, hockey, you know, those hockey tradition traditions are a little different than other sports. So, you know, I respect what they got going on in the National Hockey Hockey League. Who's.

[Alan Hahn]

Real quick before I let you go, D. Wood, who's winning? The nfc.

[Damian Woody]

Who's. Well, bro, I could tell you a team now, and I'm gonna give you another. Another team in about three days.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, who.

[Don Hahn]

Right now?

[Damian Woody]

Right? Right now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Damian Woody]

Right now. I'm gonna go.

[Don Hahn]

Another one of your phone.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Here we go.

[Damian Woody]

Give me. I'm gonna go Detroit.

[Alan Hahn]

I love it.

[Damian Woody]

I'm gonna go with Detroit.

[Alan Hahn]

I will say I will take that if I listen because it's all. Every week, it looks more and more like Kansas City. So if we can at least not have it be Kansas City, Philadelphia again, I can live with. I can live with Kansas City, Detroit. D. Wood. Thank you for making time as always.

[Damian Woody]

No, thank you, guys. I appreciate it.

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Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

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[Don Hahn]

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And I wrote down this song. It is rain today. Hopefully no fire.

[Don Hahn]

No, please, no fire.

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Turn it up. The man's got the voice of an angel.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He does.

[Alan Hahn]

How about that picture I got of him at the Rock and Roll hall of Fame last year, Don, was that not a gem?

[Peter Rosenberg]

That was cool.

[Alan Hahn]

And how about the self awareness of Flavor Flav? Not a sentence you hear every day to realize when he was in the picture with me and James Taylor. Because a lot of celebrities wouldn't have the self awareness to not make me say, hey, Flav, do me a favor. Take a hike. I want to take this picture with James Taylor.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right?

[Alan Hahn]

We have pictures together. I love the man. But. But Flavor Flav recognized. He goes, let me jump out of your picture. And I got to get the solo with me and the great jt.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That is awesome. I was very happy. Just I saw James Taylor at the Apollo. Sirius hadn't invited me to it. It was really cool.

[Alan Hahn]

I've seen him many times. I've never seen him in an intimate venue like the Apollo.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, very, very, very cool.

[Alan Hahn]

He serious does some cool events there. He's, he's, he's fantastic. And Alan, I'm sorry that we weren't close enough at the time. He didn't make the cut for the wedding because my. My rabbi did a tremendous job. Don, if you remember incorporating some of the. The Jewish prayer, something in the way she moves.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That was nice.

[Alan Hahn]

He didn't remember it today.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I remember the Paul Simon.

[Don Hahn]

The delay's killing you.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, I. That was. It was sincere.

[Don Hahn]

That's. The Don is not laying out. It's. It's strictly the delay.

[Alan Hahn]

No, but I also could tell he.

[Don Hahn]

Across the country.

[Alan Hahn]

I could tell he didn't fully remember the James Taylor part of it too. There was James Taylor. He's right. There's James Taylor and there was Paul Simon. He did a great job, that rabbi. Terrific job.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Very good.

[Don Hahn]

Now, guys, real quick, if I could just quickly here.

[Alan Hahn]

Sure.

[Don Hahn]

Because we are dealing with a lot today, and I want to shout out our producers, especially Anthony, who's probably trying to plug as many holes right now. Oh, Boy, because we have had technical issues on YouTube. We have gone dark a few times. I think it's stabilized, hopefully, but there was a lot of issues going on there. Uh, it's amazing that we're all still talking to each other considering the weather as it is having an impact on the technology. Anthony will never tell anybody this. As you know, he's very humble and he, he will always blame himself, but I don't want that to be the case. So those who are with us on YouTube, we love the fact that you stay with us each day. I do want to apologize for some of the technical issues we've had today. You're lucky that we're on the air, but yeah, if you knew, and he hasn't told me all of it, but if you knew what we, what we know, what's going on behind the scenes. No, it'd be. It's amazing that we've actually gotten almost to the end here without, without falling.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it's really been fine. We haven't even had. I mean, I didn't even notice the issue.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, no, but you. YouTube has been an issue today.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

For us. And it's, it's not a connection problem for Don or myself. It's something else going on that is more than likely weather related. And, and for those, again, we have a nice audience on YouTube. We appreciate them always coming and watching the show and we're trying to develop that. But today has not been a great day for that. And Anthony is the one that's. He's. He's sweating in the background right now, trying to just keep this together. So thank you, Anthony. And I wanted everybody to understand it. Those who have been watching on YouTube.

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[Don Hahn]

Now, Don, when I asked you about, right, the moment if Freeman's walk off, 18 innings, the whole thing, and they lose the series, how that still becomes a baseball moment even if they lose the series. And, and I said, like, come up with something else where something that epic happens and yet you lose, but yet it's still celebrated. And Kofi suggested something that I know I texted you. It's. It's basically the Mr. November Home Run by Derek Jeter to open it. Right? To open the 2001 World Series.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

That's still referenced in baseball, isn't it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know it's referenced in New York. Well, it's because It's a Yankee 9 11.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, but.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And the Yankees are a national team. I think that and the Brocius home runs were, you know, were big a big deal because of the fact that they were walk offs during a World Series where it seemed like everybody outside of Arizona was rooting for the Yankees because of 911 and all that. So I think that would fall into that category. Okay, now does that live like the. Well, the fist thing was just a perfect storm. Right of it's a walk off home run. The World Series. The Red Sox trying to end the curse. He's waving. So they try to keep it fair. It was a pretty epic shot, a pretty epic moment. But.

[Don Hahn]

Now what? The next day I got an NBA one that I don't know if everybody knows, but it is one that the NBA celebrates all the time. The 19. You're going to laugh. 1976 NBA Finals. The Suns and the Celtics. Game 5, double overtime. They make a shot, the Celtics make a. I think it was a free throw to take a two point lead. There's like no time left on the clock. Boston Garden's going crazy. They're trying to get on the court. They draw up a play, the Suns do. They get it to Gar Herd who turns around, just chucks it goes in, forces third overtime. Now they, they end up losing the game. Still. The sun still lost the game. And then the next day, next next game lost the series. But the shot is, is. It's amazing how it's celebrated because it's such an epic like how does this game still going on. The Celtics should have won that game, but this guy makes this insane shot out of a timeout.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

And they forced a third overtime. And it's amazing how much the NBA references that shot as an iconic shot. That's one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And the Bonds home run in 2002 against Anaheim because it was just a bomb. I've never seen that home run was crushed.

[Don Hahn]

Ball just kept going.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't even remember what happened in the game. They obviously lost that series.

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But there are a few things.

[Alan Hahn]

Jordan really hard. Jordan 63 against the Celtics was in.

[Don Hahn]

A loss in the first round too.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, game five, right?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. But again that's not something that the, the sport talks about because Jordan went on to do greater things. True, true.

[Alan Hahn]

But like that moment when people talk about all time great Jordan moments, that is up there.

[Don Hahn]

It's the first time you, first time you recognize like oh dude, this, this guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I will tell you there, I think the Ohtani performance in Game three is iconic enough that it will survive if the Dodgers lose. It just won't survive in the same way. Yeah, it'll still be talked about because nobody's ever done that right on base nine times. It just. It's incredible. It'll be discussed. It'll be talked about. It just won't live. It won't. It won't be golden the way it would be if they won the Series.

[Don Hahn]

So think about this playoff run. If they win the World. If the Dodgers come back to win this World Series, which would. That now is an epic comeback. Ohtani's. Ohtani's Game 3 and what he did against the brewers with three home runs and 10 strikeouts, like, that's all part of the journey, which makes it in more epic. Dodger World Series. One of the great Dodger World Series of all time. But if they don't win it, it's just kind of a story. It's not. It's not what it could have been.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, we were supposed to take a call. Here, let me. Who can I get to. Quickly, before we go?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's go.

[Alan Hahn]

Let's hit Lou real quick in the Bronx. Hey, Lou.

[Damian Woody]

Hey, what's up, guys? I love the show. And if you ever get canceled by espn, you can go right to Comedy Central because I laugh out loud every day.

[Alan Hahn]

Thank you, man.

[Damian Woody]

Don, I didn't want to kick you when you were down, and I agree with you. You can't not like something if you've never tried it. So I just stopped at a bodega, and I got myself 100 grand. And I gotta say, if you're doing Peter's wedding thing, 100 grand goes at table four with, like, in laws, second cousins, and maybe somebody told me that you don't.

[Alan Hahn]

You didn't enjoy it. You went and got it and you didn't like it.

[Don Hahn]

It was the car.

[Damian Woody]

I had one years ago. Like, maybe 10 years ago. I hadn't remembered what it was like, so I tried it again, and it's.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, it's too.

[Damian Woody]

It's like, sticking. Like too much caramel.

[Don Hahn]

See?

[Damian Woody]

You know?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. Table five in the back.

[Damian Woody]

Yep. Table. Maybe Table ten in the back.

[Don Hahn]

Really? Yeah, they're allowed in, but. Yeah.

[Damian Woody]

Yeah, you invite them because you have to, but you're not. Yeah, they're not. They get the last piece of cake.

[Don Hahn]

I. I agree. If I'm starving, I'm gonna try one thing available. I'll eat it.

[Alan Hahn]

I wanna. I'm gonna try one to be consistent.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to Badan Han and Rosen podcast.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't want to know how the.

[Don Hahn]

Sausage is made, but I just want to know it's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.

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