Hour 4: 35 Years Ago Today...

Summary

Podcast Summary: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg - Hour 4: 35 Years Ago Today...

Introduction In the April 12, 2025 episode of "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg," hosts Don LaGreca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg delve into a significant sports moment from 35 years prior—the monumental upset of Buster Douglas defeating Mike Tyson. The conversation intertwines personal anecdotes, listener interactions, and reflections on iconic sports events that have left lasting impressions on fans.

Main Discussion: Buster Douglas vs. Mike Tyson (1990) The episode centers around the historic fight where Buster Douglas handed Mike Tyson his first career defeat. Don LaGreca and Anthony (presumably Alan Hahn) reminisce about the impact of this event both personally and within the sports community.

• Don LaGreca's Perspective: Don recounts his memory of the fight with vivid details, highlighting the disbelief and excitement surrounding the outcome. At [03:35], he notes, “I remember exactly where I was leading up to that moment,” painting a picture of the pervasive anticipation and subsequent shock when Tyson was knocked down.

• Anthony's Reflection: Anthony emphasizes the rarity of such a monumental upset in individual sports, stating at [02:26], “Nothing in individual sports. No, nothing close.” He compares the event's magnitude to contemporary sports phenomena, underscoring its unique place in sports history.

• Personal Anecdotes: Don shares a personal story about listening to Tyson's fights with his father, illustrating the deep-rooted connection many fans had with Tyson during his dominant years. At [15:20], he mentions, “I worked at a pharmacy, and the pharmacist took me and my buddy to a closed circuit to see the Spinks Tyson fight.”

Listener Interactions: Iconic Sports Moments The hosts engage with listeners who call in to share their unforgettable sports moments, expanding the discussion beyond the Tyson-Douglas fight.

• Richard's Contribution: At [10:22], Richard introduces the idea of "singular sports moments" and references the infamous 1983 NBA Eastern Conference Championship chant, “Beat la,” showcasing the passionate and sometimes unpredictable nature of sports fandom.

• Jacob and Peter's Stories: Listeners like Jacob and Peter share personal memories tied to significant sports events. Peter reminisces about watching Tyson fights with his father and the emotional weight of witnessing such dominant performances. At [17:56], he reflects, “it was just an amazing memory.”

• Jim's Commentary: Jim brings up John McEnroe’s tenure, emphasizing memorable sports moments that resonate deeply with fans. Although briefly mentioned, his input adds to the tapestry of iconic sports memories discussed.

Comparative Analysis: Other Iconic Upsets and Moments The conversation broadens to include comparisons with other sports upsets and legendary moments, highlighting their relevance and impact.

• Boxing and MMA: The hosts discuss other significant upsets, like Ronda Rousey's defeat by Holly Holm, noting at [07:58], “But still not to this level,” comparing it to the Tyson-Douglas fight's unparalleled significance.

• Basketball Highlights: Kobe Bryant’s legendary 81-point game is discussed, with Peter Rosenberg at [36:43] sharing his memory of seeing the highlights on ESPN. Don counters with Michael Jordan’s memorable performances, illustrating the diverse range of impactful sports moments.

• Golf Achievements: Don mentions Jack Nicklaus winning the Masters at a young age, contrasting it with Tiger Woods' later dominance. He reflects at [32:13], “I remember when Jack won at the Masters. But that was a big deal.”

Future Plans and Upcoming Segments The hosts tease future episodes and segments, including potential interviews and special topics.

• Guest Appearances: Anthony announces plans to bring Action Bronson onto the show to discuss basketball and the Knicks, indicating an expansion of the podcast's range.

• Upcoming Lists: Don LaGreca hints at creating a list of top players known for specific memorable moments, clarifying criteria to avoid conflating off-field controversies with in-game performances. At [40:32], he elaborates, “We're talking about like play on the court. On the field of so and what you're right.”

Closing Remarks As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the enduring legacy of iconic sports moments and their significance to fans across generations. They emphasize the show's interactive nature, allowing listeners to shape discussions and share their cherished memories.

• Final Thoughts: Don emphasizes the importance of shared experiences in sports fandom, stating at [41:31], “So just get that in your head as you're devising your own lists.”

• Farewell and Teasers: The episode concludes with a light-hearted exchange and a reminder to tune into future shows for more engaging sports discussions.

Notable Quotes:

• Don LaGreca at [03:35]: “I remember exactly where I was leading up to that moment.”
• Anthony at [02:26]: “Nothing in individual sports. No, nothing close.”
• Peter Rosenberg at [36:43]: “It was Kobe scores 81. Like, it was a big deal.”
• Richard at [10:22]: “Beat la. It's a famous chant, of course.”

Conclusion "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" successfully revisits a pivotal moment in sports history, enriching the conversation with personal stories, listener interactions, and thoughtful comparisons. This episode not only celebrates the legacy of Buster Douglas's victory but also underscores the profound connection fans have with unforgettable sports events.

Transcript

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Anthony]

This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Don LaGreca]

That sounds like heaven to me.

[Anthony]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers. Jacob's very good at playing music with a purpose, Don. Yes, and you were playing Dilla beats. It's the anniversary of his passing today. Or it's his birthday.

[Jacob]

It was yesterday.

[Don LaGreca]

I just.

[Anthony]

Yesterday was the anniversary of his passing.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, right.

[Anthony]

One of the great producers of all time. And today. We talked about this earlier, the anniversary, Don, of a true. Remember where you were moment in sports. Let's go back 35 years ago, if it was a day. See Mike, Dwayne, when backing his heels, doesn't have the good balance, his legs.

[Don LaGreca]

Together, his busted landing. Oh, nice uppercut, Mike. Buster does.

[Anthony]

Look at this. He's knocked Mike Tyson down for the.

[Don LaGreca]

First time in his career. Mike Tyson hits the the canvas.

[Anthony]

He's in big trouble. He may not be able to recover.

[Don LaGreca]

It's up to seven and eight.

[Anthony]

He's not gonna make it. Unbelievable.

[Don LaGreca]

Unbelievable.

[Anthony]

Unbievable. Mr. Douglas is the new heavyweight champion of the world, I have to tell you. Well, Mike should have beat the count, but whatever. That's neither here nor there. It was done. It makes me feel. The fact that I am able to remember when that happened in 1990. It makes me like I got to live in, like, a completely different era. Like there's nothing. There's no sort of singular thing that can happen. You guys might think MMA is big, and it is. It is big. Nothing can happen in individual sports that can come anywhere near to that moment. Don.

[Don LaGreca]

Nothing in individual sports. No, nothing close. Because you put it in sports radio perspective, that was obviously a very late Saturday night, as most of the heavyweight fights are.

[Anthony]

Well, no. And that was in Tokyo, right?

[Don LaGreca]

Because it was in Tokyo. But even so.

[Anthony]

But even so, they ran always, like, after 11:00, and I think they. They fought it in the morning in Tokyo to keep it kind of regular boxing time in the US If.

[Don LaGreca]

If that had happened while we Were doing this show 35 years ago. It's our lead on Monday. And I don't know if there's ever been a heavyweight fight, maybe after Tyson bit Holyfield or something like that, where it would be our lead. Like that doesn't happen in boxing anymore. No matter how big the fight is, that two days later it would be our lead. It was the biggest story. The thing about what I remember where I was, I could tell you exactly where I was leading up to that moment. I would go and I'd watch every Tyson fight. Tyson was must watch, right? But by this time, it's like, I'm not going to watch him just beat another tomato. I didn't. Everybody kind of felt like it's in total, he's going to beat him.

[Anthony]

It was weird. He was 42 to 1.

[Don LaGreca]

It was.

[Anthony]

Douglas is a 42 one dog. It's in Tokyo. The timing was a little bit off. I don't remember exactly what it was, but it was all just a weird night.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, it was weird. It wasn't the go to that most of Tyson fights were. And I went back to when I'd watch with my dad when the fights were like on HBO and watch him just, you know, beat people up constantly. Five years old, he was like 85 back in the. And then when he started to become heavyweight champion and you would actually buy the pay per view to watch it. It was a major sporting event. But by that time, it's like, I'm not gonna waste the time. And a buddy of mine, John Stark, I'll never forget. I think Buster's got a chance. Shut up. No way.

[Anthony]

Now, keep in mind, why did he say that? Because at the moment, I don't know.

[Don LaGreca]

I'd have to remember.

[Anthony]

No one even knew who Buster Douglas was.

[Don LaGreca]

He felt like, I don't know why, maybe he was just being that guy. But he ended up being right. But I remember, you know, because it was late Saturday night. At this point, I'm in the car driving to Suffern because the bars were open till 4 in the morning. And I was, you know, I did go out and I'm making a left onto. You're.

[Anthony]

How old is Don Legreca? 1990.

[Don LaGreca]

25. 1990. 1990. I was 22. Okay, that's right in the wheelhouse. I was legal. And I didn't, you know, drinking and driving, I wasn't doing that, but I was just. I was driving to suffering. And I was in Glenrock on Rock Road, making a left on Maple Island.

[Anthony]

Oh, my God.

[Don LaGreca]

Right Exactly. Because I'm listening to the fan and I'm getting like, they're giving update, like, round by round update. And because nobody had the fight on radio, there was no satellite radio, and that he lost, I'm like, that's unbelievable. So just hoping to get to the bar, hoping that SportsCenter would have something, but they couldn't give you any highlights then. It was just. It was unbelievable. It is such a moment in time and for. In 35. So you're talking about a whole generation of people. I don't care how big into MMA you are. And I know MMA is big. There's nothing that's happened in MMA that would captivate the imagination of that moment of that guy. Mike Tyson was as big a sports figure as anybody ever. So when he fought, it was a thing. It just was. Or when he didn't fight, it was a thing. And everything that happened outside the ring and everything else, but 35 years ago, just unbelievable. 35 years ago, unbelievable. So you were what?

[Anthony]

I was 11.

[Don LaGreca]

11 years old. So where were you?

[Anthony]

So I was at my parents. I was 11. So when my parents did stuff on the weekends, like went to a friend's house, that means I'm going to my parents friend's house. So my parents went to go have dinner at their friends, the meister's house. Right. By the way, rest in peace, Bob Meister, Dr. Bob. Great man, Huge Indians fan. Anyways, we went to the meister's house for dinner, and my brother Nick was older than me, he's 15 at the time, and he's like, I'm staying home. He was going to watch Don. He was going to watch the fight through the squiggly lines.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, wow.

[Anthony]

So my brother stayed home to watch the fight through the squiggly lines, and I think he may have called the meister's house and told me, like, he lost. And I was like, what? So if you're young and you don't understand, I'm sad for you that you can't understand what it's like to have a moment that big. I'm trying to think of what even. What was the last. And we can take your call. 1-800-919-3776. What was the last moment, individual sport or not, where it was a completely, like, you remember where you were. Oh, my God. Moment, not because your team won, but because it was such a national sports event.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Anthony]

Can you remember what that.

[Don LaGreca]

When you think of the big upsets. Right. In the history of sports, you know don't count Super Bowls. Everybody's watching them, right? Everybody knows where they are. They're in front of the TV watching.

[Anthony]

Not only that and the team that made it to the super bowl, it can't be an upset of that level. It just. It can't be.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, because you just. You would have to come up with something in tennis, but even then, by the time you got to the final, I don't know, it would have to be something else. In boxing, I remember when George Foreman made his comeback, how crazy that was in ufc.

[Anthony]

To me, the cop would be. And maybe someone who knows more would disagree. To me, the closest thing in UFC where I remember where I was when it happened, because I was hosting a party and I wasn't able to watch it, was when Ronda Rousey lost to Holly Holm. That was an unbelievable upset that shocked the world.

[Don LaGreca]

But still not to this level.

[Anthony]

As big as Ronda Rousey was, she wasn't close to the level of Mike Tyson.

[Don LaGreca]

Not to this level.

[Anthony]

Tiger winning the Masters a few years ago was a really big deal, but not close to that level.

[Don LaGreca]

Again, it's not the same thing. It's kind of apples and oranges. But hear me out, because I was a fan and I do remember being on the air after it happened and it being a non traditional sport and it's all we talked about after it happened was when Dale Earnhardt died.

[Anthony]

Well, that was. But again, that's different. That's not apple. That's a tragedy.

[Don LaGreca]

It's a true. But I'm just saying, it's that NASCAR, nobody was really like paying attention to the Daytona 500, even though it's on national television. It's kind of a big deal. But it's not boxing, Mike Tyson, but Dale Earnhardt, where he was a name that resonated with people that weren't auto racing fans. You knew who he was.

[Anthony]

But again.

[Don LaGreca]

And then he died and it's like all anybody talked about.

[Anthony]

But again, you have to go to. That's not about the result of the race. That's about a horrible tragedy.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm just saying, like, trying to think of like, I know, like there is nothing. I can't even sports.

[Anthony]

I mean, I wasn't around 1980. I was a year old when the US won.

[Don LaGreca]

That would be, I guess, a comp that would be. Although none of us saw it live, it was on tape delay, but I think when people watched it on tape delay wasn't like now where we already knew the result. We watched it as if it was Live. So I guess it would probably be to that. To that realm, because everybody was engaged in it. Because the United States getting that far.

[Anthony]

How I hate. I hate that I'm saying this, but how about Leitner over Kentucky? That was a pretty crazy moment.

[Don LaGreca]

I remember where I was for that.

[Anthony]

Me, too.

[Don LaGreca]

Where were we at that point? That wasn't even in the Final Four. No, but I remember the elite 80s as a spectrum, if I'm not mistaken. Right. In Philadelphia, when he hit that. That was.

[Anthony]

That's a big one. For whatever reason.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, and also the way it. But it was a close game at the time. It's really. It's almost like Patriot level, where it's hard to believe that Duke was a dog.

[Anthony]

Duke was a dog. Leitner was perfect from the field. Everything about it, it's. You're down one need the shot to win. It was. It was. That had everything. For whatever reason.

[Don LaGreca]

Let's still not. That's still not Tyson, but it's still.

[Anthony]

Not close to the Tyson level.

[Don LaGreca]

It's in the neighborhood.

[Anthony]

All right. You know, who cares about this? Richard in Manhattan. Hey, Richard.

[Richard]

Of course, you guys gotta ask. Anthony, when I called, this is what I was gonna bring up. I was gonna. This is how I was gonna phrase it. Fellas, do you. Can you believe 35 years ago, Tyson lost? The end of an era. But, you know, you don't have to go that far back to talk about great. Well, not great, but moments that you remember five years ago. There's not one sports fan who does not know where they were when they heard that Kobe's helicopter.

[Anthony]

But again, that's not a result of an event. I totally agree with you, but that was a horrifying tragedy.

[Richard]

Sure, sure. All right, Don, I gotta bring something up. With all due respect, now, when you talk about fandom and fraudulent fans, fandom is all visceral. It comes from inside. You can't explain it, and I'll prove it to you right now. The 1983 NBA Eastern Conference Championship. Dr. J. Moses Malone versus Larry Bird, Kevin McHale. Now, it was in Boston. It was either game six or seven. Philadelphia is about to win it. Boston cannot come back. And the Lakers had won in the West. Do you know the Boston fans at the Boston Garden? Now, mind you, Boston had won 14 out of the previous 25 and 13. 14. No, I'm wrong. 14 out of previous 25 NBA titles. From 58 to 83. But they were about to lose this game to the 76ers. Great. 76A team. Do you Know what? The Boston fans came out with the chant of. You know it, Don. You don't remember, but you do know it. Beat la. Beat la. It's a famous chant, of course.

[Anthony]

Remember Beat la. Sure, sure.

[Richard]

That's where it came from. The Boston fans were acknowledging you beat us, but you're our closest brothers in the East. We want you guys to beat la. And I thought that was one of the greatest chants I've ever seen. And where did these fans come from? They didn't wake up that morning saying, we're going to champ. Beat la. It was this row inside and that's how they felt.

[Don LaGreca]

And I. And that's kind of what. And thank you. I do think when I'm arguing with Dave about you can't root for anybody in your division, I think that there are moments kind of dictate where, you know what. At that particular moment, no matter who's in their division, a Celtic fan hated the Lakers more than anybody else. So there are going to be times. That's why I don't think so. You're telling me in the height of giants 49ers, where they seem to play every year, they played in 80, they played in 81, they played in 84, they played in 85, they played in 86, they played in 90, that there was anybody in your division that you hated more than The San Francisco 49ers in that particular moment, Right?

[Anthony]

Of course not.

[Don LaGreca]

Because that's the team, that's who you fake you didn't play. You didn't play the Cowboys in the postseason. You played the Redskins once, you played the Eagles once. But the 49ers you played eight times. So you don't think that there's going be a shift in Wall? You really think I was ever going to be rooting for the 49ers against anybody?

[Anthony]

I totally agree. People sleep on those out of division rivalries when you've met in the playoffs.

[Don LaGreca]

A lot to me. And that's. That's easy. That's kind of lazy. Of course you're going to hate teams in your division. But you think I hated the St. Louis Cardinals, slash, Phoenix Cardinals the way that I hated the San Francisco 49ers.

[Anthony]

People don't even realize the Cardinals were in our division. Why did no one ever.

[Don LaGreca]

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's so. Like, there's got to be moments where you change it.

[Anthony]

A lot of this came from the convers where I said after the Commanders lost, I was going to root for Philly a Lot of it came from that. There was, number one, Philly beating Kansas City made Washington look good. Don. Number two, it adds to the lore of the NFC East. You can at least pull some good out of it. The Chiefs continuing their thing. There's nothing sexy about that to me. All right, let's go to Paul in White Plains. Hey, Paul. Hey, how are you? What's up, good buddy?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey, I hope you guys are doing great. Love the new show.

[Anthony]

Thanks, man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Enough of that stuff. But, yeah, the Tyson thing, like, my dad had a huge VHS collection. We taped every Tyson fight, always all boxing. And my sister got married that night in the Bronx. And it was like. It was like we were upset. We weren't gonna be able to watch it, but we weren't, like, ready to watch it. Stop it. We weren't ready to watch it because we knew he was gonna win. And in the middle of the wedding, like, late at the wedding, 11:30, the rumors started spreading. There's no cell phone. It was just an amazing memory. And, like, Tyson's memories really resonate with me. My dad passed, but, like, unbelievable. Just.

[Anthony]

Yeah, man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Moment.

[Anthony]

Paul, I appreciate you, bud. And I think a lot of people with boxing have that. That they watched it with their dad.

[Don LaGreca]

That's a big. It's a big thing I did. I watched all those Tyson fights early with my dad, when they were open, when it was free. Like, again, HBO first was on, and then we would get the fights.

[Anthony]

And your dad was probably telling you about customato, managing Floyd Patterson.

[Don LaGreca]

You know, obviously it got out of hand with Tyson, and shortly thereafter, my dad, you know, lost it with him. But it was just such a great story. You know, he was a local kid, just. And that's the thing about Tyson. I was never the whole sweet science thing. I know that he wasn't the greatest boxer of all time, but there's just something of being that dominant over your opponent, like, literally beating the snot out of people. I worked at a pharmacy, and the pharmacist took me and my buddy to a closed circuit to see the Spinks Tyson fight. It was over 90 seconds, by the way.

[Anthony]

Closed circuit.

[Don LaGreca]

You felt like you were part of something.

[Anthony]

You go into those closed circuit fights where you would go to a movie theater. I watched Tyson Larry Holmes after a Bullets Celtics game at the Capitol center. With your ticket, it included, you got to watch the Larry Holmes Tyson fight. I thought Larry Holmes died. I said, oh, my God, I just saw a man die.

[Don LaGreca]

The place was called Dancing. It was a nightclub called Dancin. I Think it was in Englewood Cliffs or Englewood, New Jersey. And that's where we was, Harry, there. And it was 100 bucks a ticket. It was very expensive, or 50. It was something. It was really. What was that, 1988? Yeah, probably 50 because he bought for me and my buddy Steve. So he spent $100 plus on top of him and his son that he took. So he went for two bills to see this. And even though it lasted only 90 seconds, you still felt like, all right, we didn't get. You would think we didn't get our money's worth, but you walked out of there going, no, that's Mike Tyson. It's part of the legacy of Mike Tyson. And it aged poorly because, like, why the hell is Spinks even in the ring with him? But leading up to that fight, remember, he was following Tyson around that. It seemed like it was a pretty legitimate test for Tyson.

[Anthony]

Spinks had big quality wins against other heavyweights he did, including Larry Holmes.

[Don LaGreca]

And he was a legitimate name.

[Anthony]

And of course, because Leon Spinks, he's a big name. Let's go to Mike in Queens. Hey, Mike.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey, Don. Peter, how you doing?

[Anthony]

What's up, man?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Big fan. Big fan. Thanks, buddy. Peter. I like to have some show that Kendrick did, but I was a little distracted by the bell bottoms. Bell bottoms kind of distracted me the whole time.

[Anthony]

I think people are still trying to analyze why he went with the bell bottom vibes, but I'll try to find out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, with Tyson Douglas, I was about 8, but my grandfather used to have a bunch of fight parties, so I'm pretty sure he did have the fight on. And I didn't know how big an upset it was until I got a little older, but I definitely was a big Tyson fan. The biggest sporting event, to me, it wasn't really a big sporting event, but I was a big Magic fan back in the day, Orlando Magic with Shaq and Penny. And I cried. The last time I cried over a sporting event was when Nick Anderson missed a free throw in a row. I wrote a hate letter to them because I hated him. I really did.

[Anthony]

That's terrible, Mike. You know what?

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's no way a two guard of his caliber should have missed four free throws. I thought he was on the take.

[Anthony]

I was like, by the way, that's hilarious because you were like 12 at the time. Whatever. It was, Mike, that. Thank you for the call. Nick Anderson belongs on a great list for Don one day.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, we got a list tomorrow, by the way.

[Anthony]

Oh, really? Nice. Yeah, Don. He Belongs on a list for you great players who are known for something bad.

[Don LaGreca]

Ooh, that is a really good one.

[Anthony]

Write that down, buddy. You got. Because Starks could end up in that conversation. Nick Anderson missing the four free throws. Nick Anderson was a great player.

[Don LaGreca]

There's a lot of good ones, man. Like I can think of number one in my head. We're doing this tomorrow.

[Anthony]

But you're bumping your other list.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, I wasn't feeling the other list.

[Anthony]

Oh, there you go. The way I'm feeling, they don't tell me no.

[Don LaGreca]

This is, this is.

[Anthony]

No, thank you. This is terrific.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm not sure the two people you mentioned will necessarily even make the list.

[Anthony]

Wow, Nick Anderson is going to compete for that. Because I knew he was going to say Nick Anderson the second he said bad moment. Orlando Magic, you go, it's Nick Anderson.

[Don LaGreca]

I think I can come up with bigger names.

[Anthony]

Oh. That are even better players. But for the record, Nick Anderson was a nice, really nice player. And that's the criteria.

[Don LaGreca]

And I haven't even done the list yet, is that it is a truly great player, undisputed great player that the first thing you think of is negative.

[Anthony]

So Scott Norwood's on this list.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, I don't think so. Norwood, it would ever be considered great.

[Anthony]

So who are you thinking of? That's that knowing for some time I'm gonna have to make.

[Don LaGreca]

You might not think. Well, I don't want to give away. We'll do it. What time we doing that tomorrow, Anthony? Any idea? Anytime we want, right? It could be anytime we want.

[Anthony]

When do you want to do it?

[Don LaGreca]

Honestly, the way I'm feeling it right now and what's going on now? I. I would do it at three. Okay. Don't leave. Don't leave me to my own device.

[Anthony]

No, no, no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I say four.

[Anthony]

Four sounds nice. Four sounds nice because we never opened.

[Don LaGreca]

We never. I never had out of the gate list.

[Anthony]

Right in there.

[Don LaGreca]

Audacity.

[Anthony]

We're going to take more calls from you guys. Every line is jammed up. People want to talk. Tyson memories and other singular sports moments. This is what we do in the 6 o'clock hour. This is what the last call crew does. It's Peter and Don. Don, talk to me about pain.

[Don LaGreca]

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[Jacob]

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[Anthony]

Listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast. I didn't listen to anything you just said. Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. One of my favorite Dillobeats. I mean, by the way, I don't know, Q. Tip probably also produced this as well because it's, I believe, produced by both of them. Probably ask you Tip that shouts to the tipster. Oh, and I meant to say this after the conversation with that caller last week about we should have Action Bronson on the show. I reached out to Bronson and I said, hey, dude, you know, I've. Can you, can you, can you come on sometime? What's going on? Let's talk about the Knicks. And he's absolutely down to do it. So we're gonna talk about some basketball with Action Bronson. Maybe I'll reach out to him about tomorrow Friday. Hey, it's 880 New York. It's Don Hahn and Rosenberg and Richard, who had a horrifying phone call earlier. But he did bring something good to the table. Don. It was his initial call that sparked the conversation. When I saw it that this is 35 years since the Tyson fight. Without that, I don't know that I would have realized that he did.

[Don LaGreca]

Interesting. Well, 35, it's kind of anniversary of Jace. I guess every year is an anniversary. But is 35 really a milestone anniversary? It's not 25. It's not, not 50.

[Anthony]

No, but it's still. You hear it and you go, wow, it's a big one.

[Don LaGreca]

35 is a big one.

[Anthony]

But think about what's come from it. So Richard's call today, it was kind of meandering and crazy, but he gave us a fun topic about singular sports moments you remember. And then it ended up spawning from that to the caller calls up and mentions Nick Anderson to now we have a great list for tomorrow.

[Don LaGreca]

This is why, this is why the show's great because we allow you to kind of in a way lead us. It's. What is it called? What's the 35th anniversary coronation? No, no, no. It's the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If you wanted it as a gift, you'd give coral.

[Don LaGreca]

We'd give coral or emerald. Oh, emeralds. That's a different story. We're talking different corals. I handed Nancy coral.

[Peter Rosenberg]

She was like, did Buster Douglas give Mike Tyson coral today or emerald?

[Anthony]

Excuse me. Who doesn't want to get some coral? You know what I mean?

[Don LaGreca]

I have a picture.

[Anthony]

You were there.

[Don LaGreca]

I don't know if you were there for the picture, but you were on the air of Buster Douglas holding Marco.

[Anthony]

He held Marco. Marco was there that day?

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, Marco and Jalen were there because they drove me in because I had to get a. I had to go a flight to go somewhere with the Rangers. So they dropped me off. And he was on early in the show, and he came early. And I'm like, I gotta do something here. Really.

[Anthony]

I'm sorry.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm talking about something with my son, you filthy piece of garbage.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm six.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, he's seven now, but still, what I do do.

[Anthony]

No, that's not right, what I just said. It happened. It happened, hopefully. Oh, I'm sorry.

[Don LaGreca]

I could look at the look on Anthony's face is that he didn't quite catch it. Yeah, but for the people that caught.

[Anthony]

It, you are a level of scum.

[Don LaGreca]

That I can't even describe.

[Anthony]

I'm so.

[Don LaGreca]

I would describe it in what you. What you said. That's the level of scum. I. I've got a picture of Buster Douglas in my head. I have the picture, but I'm just saying I'm envisioning in my head Buster Douglas, the champ, holding Marco. And then you say that.

[Anthony]

Phil, I didn't mean to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's just unnecessary.

[Anthony]

Yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to. It didn't need to go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It really didn't need to go.

[Anthony]

I love what they said.

[Don LaGreca]

I didn't mean to. Did somebody speak on your behalf?

[Anthony]

I just. When I heard it, I just shut up and listened. I didn't mean to play it back. No, it's not right. What happened? All right, let's. Let's go to the phones. Let's talk to. You know what, Alan.

[Don LaGreca]

Speaking of which.

[Anthony]

Griffin, I'm sorry. Unfortunately, I think Alan hates you.

[Don LaGreca]

But I think Alan has a problem with you.

[Anthony]

But we love you. But we. We love you. So now. Now that I'm in control of the phones, I'm picking you right up. Griftster.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How are you guys doing.

[Anthony]

Hey, buddy. Are you splashing around in the bath? No. I don't know if I believe that. I think the way you answered implied you might be.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, Good for you, man.

[Anthony]

Stretch it out, man. You got a ducky in there?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I don't have a little ducky in there.

[Anthony]

Well, what do you have for us today, Griffin?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Before I get to my. The basketball point with St. John's I want to talk about something with. With the Mike Tyson thing. They were thinking other thing in sports.

[Anthony]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not sure if this is big because not many people are big in women's basketball.

[Anthony]

I knew it was going to be women's basketball and that's going to nullify what it is, unfortunately, because culturally it's just not big enough. But are you going to go Caitlin Clark something?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. UConn losing when they have their 101 game winning streak, losing in the final Four.

[Anthony]

I mean, listen, it's a big deal for you. Who loves UConn women's basketball. I don't know if the rest of the world would categorize. It's a bit. It is a big deal.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was all over Sports center too, so.

[Anthony]

No, no. I love you. I love you. And given your interest, I knew that's where you'd go. Griffin. Something like that. But no. Don you agree? Nowhere near it, right?

[Don LaGreca]

No, it's good for him and I don't want to be disrespectful, but it just. It didn't resonate with.

[Anthony]

No. And it'd be not a big enough people or what's your St. John's point?

[Don LaGreca]

Grifter, please.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think St. John's what they're doing is very amazing. From what they were to now what they are this year. There's just this one concern I have with St. John. Okay. They can't really shoot the three. I think Wally brought this up too when you had. When you were talking with him on Friday. I'm really. If they don't have a consistent or they can get any bit of any three point shooting, I. I don't know how that's going to work in March. I could be wrong, but just I have never seen a team make a run or do well in March with not having a three point shooting. And that's why I'm really concerned because they're only shooting 28%.

[Anthony]

That is. Thanks, Griffin. That's a good call. No, listen, that is when I used to really care about my picks and it was the most important thing in my sports Calendar. It died a few years ago. I don't know why. It just. It's dead. I don't know why. It's actually sad. Those are the stats you kind of look up, Don. You look at a tournament, how does a team shoot from 3? How are they from the free throw line? I always looked up the level of experience that a team had playing together, and those are the things you look for. But what they may lack there, this is a team that's gotten better and better as the years gone on. And Don, how do you not like a team who's playing really good ball when you get to the tournament and is being coached by one of the greatest coaches of all time?

[Don LaGreca]

Right. But they play so well defensively. This may not be an issue. But if you get a team that's high from three and you're going to try to climb back, just the analytics of it, if they're hitting threes and you're settling for twos, it's going to be difficult to get back into the game. But I think they, they do so well. Defending, it shouldn't be an issue. We get some of these teams, Peter, that just are great three point shooting teams. And if you don't defend the perimeter well, I mean, how are you going to get back in those games?

[Anthony]

Let's keep things moving and go to Dave and Queens. What up, Dave?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I appreciate it, guys. Before I get.

[Anthony]

Oh, no, no, Dave.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, no, Dave, please don't. Well, try to call us back.

[Anthony]

Sorry. He literally. How does that happen? Someone's on hold for that long, I pick them up. They get two seconds into it and it falls apart.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, if they're on hold for that long, maybe they lost the battery. What was he wanted? What do you want to talk about? Maybe we can.

[Anthony]

It was Tyson, but I don't know what Tyson. Let's go to Jim in Inglewood.

[Don LaGreca]

Hey, Jim.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey, guys. What's going on? I don't really know if my point really is going to. I mean, after you guys trash Griffin's suggestion.

[Anthony]

Oh, no, no.

[Don LaGreca]

Trash it.

[Anthony]

Listen, we just disagreed. It wasn't right, but we respect it. What's your. What's yours. What's your sports moment that you think is iconic? We'll tell you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay?

[Anthony]

I promise to be respectful. Go ahead.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, thanks. CONNORS Cricksteen, the U.S. open. I remember that distinctly. Pretty sure I put off watching Fraggle Rock that night to finish watching that match. I wasn't even a big fan.

[Anthony]

Are you. Are you Jewish?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. My wife is, though.

[Anthony]

Well, that probably didn't help you back then. No, because I remember Kristien because he was Jewish and I was excited about it, but.

[Don LaGreca]

No, not at all. But that's fine for you. It was great. If I was going to go golf, I would probably go to Jack winning the masters in 86, that was a big deal for his age at that point. Now, Tiger has made that a little bit moot, but, you know, that was a. I remember that being a big deal. A lot of golf people. I remember shoes and telling me he knew exactly where he was when Jack won at the Masters. But that.

[Anthony]

Jim, I would say, if you were going to make it, I would say the Connors overall run, that last Connors run overall, was a big thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, that was awesome. And I do have one through tomorrow.

[Anthony]

All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Off of my head. But I don't know if I want to say it.

[Don LaGreca]

The fact that I thought.

[Anthony]

I don't know. I was. Listen, I was hoping if I just.

[Don LaGreca]

Kept it moving, I don't even feel bad about it. Well, now that I think about, I'm like, yeah, that's tennis. But to accentuate how bad it was, the fact that I went right to golf.

[Anthony]

Jim, what was your. What's your idea for tomorrow? Don won't acknowledge it. What was it? What was your one for tomorrow?

[Peter Rosenberg]

The own goal by. I think it was Andre Escobar. 94. World Cup.

[Anthony]

Don, is that a big.

[Don LaGreca]

I don't know what he's saying.

[Anthony]

He said an own.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, the own goal.

[Anthony]

The own goal from the World cup in 94, the Columbia one that led to get shot. He died.

[Don LaGreca]

I don't know. I don't.

[Anthony]

Yeah, that one was bad.

[Don LaGreca]

That's bad. I mean, if you want Biaggio, What I think of. I wouldn't put this on the list, but I'm gonna throw it out there. What do you think of when you think of him? Italy.

[Anthony]

Oh, Bosch. Roberto Baggio.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Anthony]

Missing the kick.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. Hitting the crossbar in 94 in the PKS against Brazil. That would have been a good one, but I don't think I listen.

[Anthony]

Because you know what? That is a good one, though, because Baggio was great, but that play was gigantic.

[Don LaGreca]

Big deal.

[Anthony]

You know what?

[Don LaGreca]

That's actually my find its way on. You got to tune in tomorrow.

[Anthony]

I got to tell you, that's really bad.

[Don LaGreca]

300, 200. Like, our Dave.

[Anthony]

Dave is back in Queens. Hey, Dave.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, guys. Thanks. We dropped. Yeah. The way I. Richard's right. It happened on the 11th in Tokyo. But the way I remember it was like Don and you said to your family's friends, went to dinner and stuff.

[Anthony]

Sad.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's a Saturday night. So technically to me, I always look at that as February 10th, even though the event took place in February 11th. But I remember I was playing pool. I found out about it around. Around, I don't know, 9pm I want to guess February 10th. So I always celebrated February 10th or remember, though I remembered it yesterday.

[Anthony]

How do you celebrate? Do you like candles every year? Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

How do you celebrate?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I. You know what I celebrated in my mind by saying, wow, I remember. I. I still know that full hole.

[Anthony]

Yeah. You remember the moment.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I remember what I was wearing. I celebrate the whole.

[Anthony]

I want to know, Dave. I want to know what you were wearing.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, right. Really? Parachute pants.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And what was it? I'm a starter.

[Don LaGreca]

I was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This time of year, obviously. A starter.

[Anthony]

Which starter? What kind of starter did you have? Which team do you have?

[Peter Rosenberg]

My only Yankee starter at that time. My Yankee starter at that time, I had. I had a Penn State one. I had. I'm a starter guy.

[Anthony]

But, yeah, I'm not trying to promote King parachute pants. I love that. Dave said. You know, when I celebrated every.

[Don LaGreca]

I know. I mean, I'm a big Tyson.

[Anthony]

I'm as big a Tyson fan as you me celebrate. First of all, it's a bad day. I mean, maybe you're just a huge Buster Douglas fan, so you just go. Every year I commemorate it by thinking about it. You call your family guys.

[Don LaGreca]

That's what's great about the show. We don't let anything by.

[Anthony]

Let's go. Jonathan in LA's got a pretty good one. Hi, guys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hi, guys. That was pretty funny. I actually celebrate the anniversary by walking cheeks out around my house like Tyson. I'm lying. I'm lying.

[Anthony]

That was an unfortunate moment from the Tyson fight this year, Don, when they. When they interviewed him and then Tyson turned around and his entire ass was showing. That was an insane moment.

[Don LaGreca]

Really. It's just crazy.

[Anthony]

Listen, Netflix, I think they've gotten things together a little better since then. But anyways, what's the moment, Jonathan, for you, that singular sports moment?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I got two. I mean, one is the super bowl, but you have to. I'm a Falcons fan, so you know that 28 3. Everyone remembers that one. But no super bowl just put that.

[Don LaGreca]

I know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I would love to get rid of that memory. But one memory, I mean, it's in my heart Forever is Kobe's 81 point game. You probably didn't watch the game. But at least you remember when you heard the news that we turn on ESPN and you seen at the bottom right box, Kobe scored 81. I remember. I wasn't watching it. I was playing basketball. I got home, I was 16 years old. And I see that on ESPN News, Kobe scores 81.

[Anthony]

I do. I mean, that's Jonathan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

My eyes.

[Anthony]

Jonathan. That's exactly how I remember it. I did. It was a random Lakers, Raptors game. I did not watch it. But I do remember the bug, the SportsCenter bug was like, Kobe scores 81. Like, it was, it was. And at the time, you're going like, at that point in time, the idea of ever hitting 100 was so insane again, like Wilt Chamberlain scoring 100. It's like a biblical story. It's not even real life.

[Don LaGreca]

It doesn't feel real.

[Anthony]

And considering the only thing that exists in my mind is a picture of him holding up a piece of paper, it literally could be a biblical story. So when Kobe dropped the 81 don, it was the only other time that I've gone, is this possible?

[Don LaGreca]

It's crazy, but. And it's not even close point wise. But why? Maybe because it was in New York. Maybe because it was on national television. But why does Jordan's 55 seem to resonate more with me?

[Anthony]

It does. Yeah. I don't know why it's not even Jordan's record.

[Don LaGreca]

Maybe because of the whole, you know, Spike bringing it up in the commercial with the double nickel.

[Anthony]

It's a big one.

[Don LaGreca]

It was a bigger game. I mean, it's Knicks bowles. Yeah, well, that's the big one, you know, but it's. Yeah, but the 81. I remember, but it's not one of those. I remember where I was. Because you found that after the fact, Right. It wasn't like in the moment.

[Anthony]

Now, the recent basketball one that you really remember where you were is not something positive. It's malice at the palace. Malice of the palace was a big.

[Don LaGreca]

But even that, it's so after the fact, right? What do you mean you're not paying attention to that game? Mike Tyson's fighting. So even if you didn't watch it, you're like, all right, Mike Tyson's fighting. That was just a random game that became something after fact.

[Anthony]

But because I was like 24 years old and doing nothing with my life, I was watching the game at home.

[Don LaGreca]

And I'm like, oh, my God. But that game wasn't on everybody's radar the way Tyson was.

[Anthony]

You weren't going, oh, my God, I Have to see this regular season game between Detroit and Indiana.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, if that happened in the Game 7 of the NBA Finals, that'd be a different story because people would be on that game.

[Anthony]

Huddle up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Anthony]

Let's break it down. My favorite bar, barbecue sauce, American cheese, crispy bacon, pickles, onions and a sesame.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Seed bun, of course.

[Anthony]

And don't forget the fries and a drink.

[Don LaGreca]

It's gonna be a high C for me.

[Anthony]

Sound good?

[Peter Rosenberg]

All you have to do to get it is beat me in a one on one.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm just playing get the Angel Reef.

[Anthony]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Jacob]

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[Anthony]

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[Don LaGreca]

Good boy.

[Anthony]

Composure step to me. You're over. Rest in peace to Fife Dog. I was thinking about him earlier.

[Don LaGreca]

Now just to talk about the list tomorrow because there's always misunderstandings and what it means because I'm already seeing it on social media. What I'm going to do is the top five players that the first thing you think of is a play or a moment. So I. We're not talking about O.J. okay. We're not talking about Alex Rodriguez and steroids. Okay. We're not. We're not going there. We're talking about like play on the court. On the field of so and what you're right.

[Anthony]

And what you're saying I'm still going.

[Don LaGreca]

To get like, what about OJ but.

[Anthony]

You have to understand what Don is saying here also is the player has to be great.

[Don LaGreca]

Great. Which O.J. was. Right.

[Anthony]

Right. But O.J. murdered someone. That. That's not. That didn't happen on the field.

[Don LaGreca]

Right. So it's got to be Something.

[Anthony]

It's about a bad play that defined the person, a bad moment during a game or during the event.

[Don LaGreca]

So just get that in your head as you're. You're devising your own lists.

[Anthony]

Anthony, Anthony and Staten Island.

[Don LaGreca]

Hey, Anthony and child.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey, guys. What's going on? Thanks for taking the call. I actually can't believe that this is the first time I am calling you guys, because I've been listening forever back with the show. I mean, I mean, I'll go 1947, but I was definitely listening during the Beatle days and others. Wow. So anyway, I just want to say, Peter, like, love all you guys, but I thought you were a real game changer to the situation. And I also wanted to just say my wife actually got me a cameo that you did for me for my 40th birthday. And it was awesome, man. I mean, it was during COVID So we were all going. Going through some stuff, and we just had some real cool things to say. That was when I had my first and only child, my baby girl. Obviously, I was ecstatic about that. But now you know that you're going through that too. I just want to say congrats. And also, you know, just take a million pictures and videos because.

[Anthony]

Oh, don't you worry so fast. You know, you know who my wife is. Don't you worry.

[Don LaGreca]

You're. You're next.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Fair enough.

[Don LaGreca]

Your next issue. Well, right. Your wife's probably gonna be taking more of the digital camera, but, like, all your phone's gonna run out of space. That's gonna be a problem because you don't want to part with any of the videos and the pictures that are on your phone.

[Anthony]

Don, last time when I got this new phone, I went pretty legit with the storage.

[Don LaGreca]

You gotta. Because it's gonna. You're gonna look at the. I look at the pictures now. It's incredible. And then you don't want to have to sit there when you can't, like, you can't refresh your emails and apps won't open. And what. What picture am I going to want to part with? Because even if it's like a nondescript picture, it's like, no, I have to keep that. And I haven't gotten to the point of printing them out.

[Anthony]

Look, I'm still only at. I'm still only at 138gigs of 512. I'm rolling.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm at 99%.

[Anthony]

Come on, get your life together. You're an animal. Please, for God's sake.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You may need to do what I did. And I have Google Photos app, so it automatically. That's good too, that Google cloud. But I'm paying for it. But you know, it's still.

[Anthony]

It's worthwhile.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, it is worthwhile. But listen, guys. Anyways, I just wanted to say what compelled me to call you guys today was the Tyson thing. And so I remember Buster Douglas beat Tyson. And Peter, I'm two years younger than you, but I, I also remember that I believe Mike Tyson, if I'm remembering this correctly, was scheduled to special guest referee a WWF championship match.

[Anthony]

That's right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Macho man and Hulk Hogan.

[Anthony]

That's right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And just thought it was an interesting fact that, you know, they end up changing it over to Buster Douglas. I mean, I understand it, but just like one of those kind of. And this is not like one of those epic iconic moments in time that you guys are talking about, but just thought it was an interesting point and it was.

[Anthony]

Yeah, Anthony, thank you, dude, for everything. Kind words, listening. But yeah, they had Mike Tyson schedule for the Saturday night's main event and they had to switch it to Buster Douglas. Very awkward moment. And of course after that, everything just went south for Tyson. It was kind of the beginning of the end. Let's get through a couple ones real quick. All right, Eric, your moment that you'll never forget was what?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, now, Peter, I'm sorry you know about it because you're a boxing historian and Don, you were. You remember when it happened, it was ultimately, it was surpassed by Tyson Douglas, but I'm talking about Leonard Duran. No Mas and the way that it reverberated around the world.

[Don LaGreca]

That was a big deal. I remember it. I was, I was a little. What year was that again? He hung up.

[Anthony]

That's.

[Don LaGreca]

I was 80s. Yeah, I was probably like 14 or something like that. But that was a big deal. But it's not, it's not at this level.

[Anthony]

How 80. If it was. If it was a day Will in North Carolina. What's yours?

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's up, guys? 1978 World Series, the Yankees against the Dodgers. I used to live on Woody Crest Avenue, up the hill on the other side from River Avenue and a building that's no longer there, by the way. I don't know if it was when Reggie hit the three home runs or if that was like the game seven or whatever it was, but my building shook like crazy and my little wimpy butt was crying all over the house thinking the building was falling down. I remember the next year my parents actually took me to a Yankee game. My first Yankee game. I was 4 years old. My parents can't believe that I can still remember this stuff, but these things kind of.

[Anthony]

Well, will. Sorry, Will. We got to jump. We're up against it right this second. The one thing is, though, just to be specific, it's kind of about it being a national event. Like I would tell you guys, the most memorable for me is when the Redskins beat the Broncos 4210 in the Super Bowl. But that's for me as opposed to these moments.

[Don LaGreca]

If I were going to go 78, I probably would go the home run against the Red Sox.

[Anthony]

That's what I was thinking, too. That's what I assumed you would have gone. Guys, this has been fun. Don has a big list. Tomorrow we'll recap the Knicks so much to do with Don Hahn and ROSENBERG Starting at 3pm Tomorrow. Tomorrow right here on ESPN New York. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the.

[Don LaGreca]

Sausage is made, man.

[Anthony]

I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.