Alan (2:07)

No problem.

Don Hahn (2:08)

He's ready to go. Should be good to go.

Alan (2:10)

Now you want him for his bat, you know, so if he's a little, you know, slowed down as far as running the ball, I will say though he does a great job running balls in the gap, so that could be an issue if he's not 100%, but the bats would still be strong. And Peter, you're always looking for juice. Well, Aaron Boone spoke about the Yankees in general and how good a team they are, and referenced a Blue Jays announcer in his answer.

Peter (2:39)

I feel like, you know, obviously the last couple months really started to play really well, and contrary to some thoughts up here, we're a really good team. I know Buck had some thoughts. That's all I was responded to. So he's wrong, but it doesn't matter. We got to go play and we got to go perform as everyone does at this time of year. So we feel really good about our team. We're playing well, but all that's in the past now. We got to go play well moving forward. And we have the challenge of a new series against another really good team and a really good opponent that has earned the opportunity to wait out this first series. So we're excited, looking forward to it, and should be a great series saying.

Don Hahn (3:18)

All the right things. But you remember earlier in the show, I told you there's some animosity in this series. And the Blue Jays have this. They have a way about them right now. They feel Nazly way. Yeah, but it's also like the, it's the. I'm telling you, deep down they wanted the Yankees because this is their way. They want to be able to put the Yankees out and sort of say, it's our time now, our arrival, all those things. They have that about them. And I was thinking of the different things that we've seen go on between them. And the most recent was Springer saying to the umpire, if you want the, if you want New York to win a division, just tell us. I totally forgot about what Buck Martinez said on the broadcast about the Yankees are not, they're not a good team. Forgot about that one.

Alan (4:01)

But listen, in fairness to Buck, all right, he has nothing to do with the Blue Jays personnel. He's the announcer. I mean, unless they got to put him on radio, he's not going to be calling these games in the postseason. And before you get upset, including you, Allen, okay, A lot of Yankee fans agreed with Buck when he said it, because when he said it, they Yankees were in a bad way. Yeah, I maybe shouldn't have said it. None of his business to say it. I get all that wrong. But what, at the time. He wasn't wrong.

Don Hahn (4:29)

No, he wasn't wrong at the time because they, they did Make a lot of. They were playing poorly. But what it does show you, though, is that that is like Don, you know, he doesn't represent what the team is saying. But when you're around the team long enough and as much as a broadcaster usually is, you get a feel for what everybody's feeling. And I'm sure he's just sort of a mirror to what they're, what they feel about the Yankees, which is why, again, I think they're going to test him every way possible. All their weaknesses, they're going to try to exploit. When it comes to defense, when it comes to bullpen, when it comes to the way they approach hitting. That's. That's what's going to make this such a compelling series.

Alan (5:13)

And so, but people need to realize about, like, what the Blue Jays are going through and why, why Buck would say that. Would Buck say that about another team? Probably not. He feels emboldened to say it about the Yankees because it just shows you the chip that the Blue Jays have on their shoulder where it's Yankees this, Yankees that. And I think Alan and I have been around enough players to know they pay attention to that. They pay attention to the lack of attention they get because the Yankees are always on national television and the Yankees always get talked about. And every big free agent is going to go to the Yankees and Yankees this, Yankees that. And you're in Toronto. And let's face it, in the sports landscape in Toronto now, that building is going to be packed and they're going to be ravenous, but they're probably talking a little bit more, you know, Leafs opening their season in Toronto than maybe Blue Jays playoffs because it's a hockey town.

Don Hahn (6:03)

You think so?

Alan (6:04)

Well, they, no, they. I'm just saying overall, when you're a Blue Jay.

Don Hahn (6:08)

Yeah.

Alan (6:09)

You're not that. You're not the biggest story all the time. Where the Yankees are always a big story. Yes, it's very difficult when the Yankees are playing well, as big as the Giants are, as big as the Knicks are, they're not throwing any shade towards the Yankees. Right. They're not taking up any of the Yankees oxygen. But listen, the Blue Jays in the playoffs, those fans are going to be ravenous. But you know, with the, what the Maple Leafs are doing and it's a hockey town, they probably get a little bit more attention than the Blue Jays do. So they probably feel, you know, like, hey, is anybody going to pay attention to us? Is anybody going to care about our season? We were the best team in the American League. Damn it, why Anybody talking about us? And they'll use that. But it's fugazi at the end of the day, once you hit the field, you got to execute. This is not football running through a wall. You got to go out and play your game. But they'll use whatever they can to make themselves out to be the little engine that could. But they're not. They're an outstanding team.

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Don Hahn (9:49)

Canadians in Toronto to play the Maple Leafs on Wednesday. So the series will have shifted to the Bronx by then.

Alan (9:58)

All right, now listen, they'll get better ratings than the Maple. It's regular season hockey. I'm just saying, when you are a Blue Jay, you don't get the love in Toronto the way a Yankee gets love in New York.

Don Hahn (10:09)

Not even close.

Alan (10:10)

All right, Auston Matthews walks down the street with Springer or, or any other Blue Jay Guerrero. They're running to Auston Matthews because it's a hockey town. That's just the way it is. And I'm sure. And they use that. And, and the Maple Leafs use it too. Oh, the league doesn't want us to win. They're against us. You heard Springer say, you read his lips. You want the Yankees to win because that's their feeling. Like they want the Yankees. They don't want the Blue Jays in the league championship series.

Don Hahn (10:39)

So we got to get a compilation of, of the. The studio host waving the broom, right? This, we took the broom out. Remember that when they swept the Yankees for the first time in Toronto. If that you have Springer doing with, you know, saying what he said and then like, if, if I'm Fox, this is the montage I'm doing. And then obviously Buck, like, throw that stuff in there and turn this into. This is going to be, this is going to be a dirty fight. These, that the, the Blue Jays don't like the Yankees. And I don't know how the Yankees feel, but I think the Yankees look at the Blue Jays like, yeah, whatever, okay?

Alan (11:18)

I don't think they hate the Yankee players. I just think they hate the Whole concept.

Don Hahn (11:22)

Concept. But that you don't have to hate the players to still.

Alan (11:25)

No, I'm just saying they just hate the whole idea. It's Toronto versus New York and in. In baseball, it's David against Goliath. And they probably think they deserve more credit than that, which they do because they're every bit as good. And if you go by the season series, they're probably better than the Yankees.

Don Hahn (11:40)

Don, do you think the Yankees are as the team, not the franchise and the entity and the brand. I want to talk about that. This iteration of the team, this roster, this style of play, this group. Do you think this is a highly respected team, their approach, all of it?

Alan (12:00)

Yeah, I wouldn't think they wouldn't be. You don't think Judge is respected, Stanton isn't respected?

Don Hahn (12:07)

That's individuals. I'm talking about the approach, style of play, how they play, what they're about. Like overall. Of course.

Alan (12:14)

Well, you heard Buck. What Buck said was probably how everybody feels. Everybody feels that this team is fugazi.

Don Hahn (12:20)

And they get a ton of attention because of who they are, not what they are. Right, right.

Alan (12:26)

And they probably are a little, in a way about why is all the attention on the Yankees and not us?

Don Hahn (12:32)

That's.

Alan (12:33)

They'll use that.

Don Hahn (12:34)

I'm trying to make that point. I'm trying to make that point is that. That's why I feel like this series is going to have a little extra juice in it that maybe some people wouldn't expect.

Alan (12:46)

And hey, you know what, Alan? If the Yankees win this series and take on the Tigers and the Mariners, I'm sure Seattle and Detroit are going to feel the same way. Yankees are getting all the attention. Seattle, like, oh, we're out West. Nobody pays attention to us. Nobody cares about us, Nobody believes in us. They'll have a bigger. They'll have a bigger case for it than the Blue Jays world. I mean, this is inherently an AL east thing with some juice at least. Yeah, I can totally see Detroit or Seattle getting completely kind of thrown away here in a series against the Yankees.

Don Hahn (13:16)

I also, I love the fact earlier, Don, you tried to really sell the idea that Detroit, Seattle is a good. That is a nap. People are not going to be excited to see that series. It is. I get good news saying there's mvp. An MVP candidate, a true MVP candidate is going to be in that series. That's great. But I mean, no, all I was trying to sell there. This series is the one to watch it.

Alan (13:41)

No, absolutely. But I'm just saying that you've got two. You've got a division winner. That's a great story with a possible American League MVP who's been a big story. And Detroit, which is a big market.

Don Hahn (13:52)

I understand.

Alan (13:53)

But so. And I think the Tigers are sexier than the Guardians. But not much. But not by.

Don Hahn (13:58)

But not much. Not much at all much. But you'll have. I just think you'll have. You'll have more sizzle if the Yankees play the Mariners because of the MVP thing. And they won't. They. They're not going to name the MVP officially until after the World Series is over November.

Alan (14:14)

Right.

Don Hahn (14:15)

So we won't know. But that's like the last sort statement of whoever comes out of that series. So that will make that fun that you can build that up. But this series, this and Dodgers, Phillies to me are the series that are going to have sizzle.

Alan (14:28)

And for people that know the votes are already in.

Don Hahn (14:30)

Yeah.

Alan (14:30)

So what happens if they do play each other? Is not going to matter. But boy, that's going to feel like, to quote Rob Manfred, that's going to feel like a piece of tin to Cal Riley. If Kyle Riley, if he they get smoked in the league Championship series and at the end of the year they hand him the MVP and Aaron Judge is the champion. That would probably feel like a consolation prize than a trophy.

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Alan (16:31)

Oh, yeah, baby. All right, let's close it out with your calls. 1-800-919-3776. Chris and Barnegat, you're on ESPN New York. Hi, Chris.

Caller Chris (16:40)

Hey, guys. How you doing?

Alan (16:42)

Good.

Caller Chris (16:43)

So, first things first, before I get to my point, I was watching the game last night and. And my dad, he. He texted me and he was like, you got to send them back out into the eighth. And he's kind of a guy doesn't really watch, like, every game, like, in the regular season like I do. And in my hand, I'm so trained these days to, like, 100 pitches. Like, no way. Like, no way they would ever do that. It's the big 100 pitch mark, and they sent them back out there and it was. This is such a great moment to see those fans going crazy, because that was awesome. But my real point is, where does this rank? Where does this rank on the playoff performances? Obviously, there's some great ones. Roger Clemens and Don Larson, but where does this rank on playoff moments for Yankee pitching?

Alan (17:23)

Well, I still think we have to see where this goes, but, you know, Roger Clemens is Roger Clements. I mean, Don Larson wasn't a Hall of Famer, but he was an established pitcher. Andy Pettit, even though he was 96, he was second in the Cy Young. This is a. This is a kid making his 16th major league start, his first in the postseason. But just right now, Alan, Peter, I think it's top five, but it could age even better if they make a run incredibly unexpected.

Don Hahn (17:50)

Right. That's. That's what you're saying. But. But wonderfully unexpected. Yeah. I thought of Pettit. I just thought, because you also keep in mind the context of Pettit got smoked. I think it was game one, or is it game two? He got smoked in the World Series there. And so for him to bounce back and give you that kind of a gritty performance.

Alan (18:08)

Yeah.

Don Hahn (18:08)

In that game five, I mean, that. That said a lot about him. So I was thinking of that last night. You know, I can't really Think if Phil Hughes had one or, you know, Jabba back in the day. Was there some. Was there one of them having a moment? But it's pretty special. But I was seeing. The only reason why I said it was because, Don, I was seeing people last night, like, greatest performance by a Yankee pitcher. I'm like, guys, perfect game's perfect game. You can't come in the World Series. Like, let's. Let's not. Let's not go there.

Alan (18:40)

I understand, but that was game five of the World Series. This is. And again, this is a perfect game. Right. But it's. It's facing elimination. A must win situation.

Don Hahn (18:50)

Because.

Alan (18:50)

What were we talking about yesterday, Alan? If the Yankees lose, this is a failure of a season. The guy that saved your season.

Don Hahn (18:56)

Yeah.

Alan (18:57)

And you can't kind of forget that even though they put it together last night offensively and did enough, not getting the long ball from their long ball guys. You needed a great pitching performance to win. It would have been losing to the Red Sox again in a year when. When you really feel you're a better team than that. Whatever the records say, Peter, what you're.

Don Hahn (19:15)

Saying is you needed a. You needed someone to step up and be a star, be a hero. And it came from a guy who started the season in double A.

Alan (19:25)

You. What I'm saying is I need a hero just for one day. Who? Something, Something in the something of the night. I don't know if we're on the same song, but.

Don Hahn (19:36)

Yeah. You're singing different songs.

Alan (19:37)

I'm doing David Bowie. What do you got?

Don Hahn (19:39)

No, I Need a Hero. You were doing Bonnie Tyler. Bonnie Tyler.

Alan (19:46)

I'm taking. I win that face.

Don Hahn (19:47)

Holding out for hero.

Alan (19:49)

I want to clean. I just don't know if I know the song you were referring.

Don Hahn (19:52)

Which.

Alan (19:53)

Which Bowie song? No. We Could Be Heroes. We Can Be heroes. Oh, yeah. Okay.

Don Hahn (19:57)

Covered by Dylan's son. That was in a movie last, like, 20 years.

Alan (20:02)

Mariah Carey. Hero.

Don Hahn (20:03)

Mariah Carey had a hero song that was humongous.

Alan (20:08)

The great Enrique Iglesias, Javier and Queens. You're on espn, New York. Hey, what's up, guys? Great show today.

Peter (20:17)

Thanks for taking the call.

Don Hahn (20:18)

I feel like we're leaking oil as we go down the stretch, though.

Peter (20:22)

I do feel like not at all.

Don Hahn (20:24)

Trying to get to the finish line here.

Alan (20:26)

And Don, I gotta say, your newfound Yankee fandom, I can't speak for everybody. Wow. But over here, there's move, there's movement. Wow. I love this fandom.

Don Hahn (20:38)

Welcome.

Alan (20:39)

I should lay out yesterday a Sopranos quote worked for Me. So I'm gonna quote the great Baki Bobby Bakalieri AKA Bobby Bacala. To the victor belongs the spoil.

Peter (20:54)

Right?

Alan (20:54)

So let's celebrate today Yankee Nation and listen for for the the series coming up. Toronto's been on ice and the Yankees can take advantage. Take game one and then you got.

Peter (21:07)

A clear shot at the alcs.

Alan (21:09)

And I love the storyline going on right now. Lined up their pitchers and that's the advantage hobby. And thank you for the phone call. I think I'd rather be the Yankees. I think I'd rather be riding a high. I might be a little tired, short turnaround and all that. But the race is going to start with them having, you know, running 10 yards behind. They're going to hit the start line already moving and the Blue Jays are, you can hope maybe catch them flat footed.

Don Hahn (21:34)

Maybe remains to be seen. Like I said, rest versus rust.

Alan (21:38)

Well, it's always a conversation in sports and we're going to continue to have it coming up. Monday's going to be big because we're not only going to have where the Yankees are.

Don Hahn (21:46)

Who's up two.

Alan (21:46)

Oh, is it even at one Jackson.

Don Hahn (21:49)

Dart gonna get a second win.

Alan (21:51)

Oh yeah, they get their first win. Oh, there's gonna be so much happening on Monday. Really looking forward to it. We'll have an NFL binge. Oh, come on. It's gonna be pretty incredible. So enjoy all of the baseball, enjoy all of the football and enjoy Ty Butler. He's gonna be coming up next. So my man, it was a phenomenal weekend. Peter, I know you're gonna be traveling, but you will be with us on Monday. We're looking forward to that. And then you'll be on the other end of the planet. Yes, ESPN New York.

Don Hahn (22:17)

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.

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