Hour 4: Auto Tarp & Calls

Summary

Detailed Summary of "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" Podcast Episode: Hour 4: Auto Tarp & Calls

Release Date: July 15, 2025
Podcast Information:
Title: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Description: The first voice of ESPN New York and New Jersey legend Don La Greca, long-time sportswriter and handsome New York Knicks broadcaster Alan Hahn, and highly opinionated Hip Hop vet and WWE personality Peter Rosenberg make up Don, Hahn, and Rosenberg. Covering New York, sports, and so much more.

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1. Episode Kickoff and Event Announcements (00:30 - 03:05)

The episode begins with promotional segments, seamlessly transitioning into Don La Greca's introduction. Don announces upcoming ESPN New York events, notably the ESPNY Tee Up Golf Challenge scheduled for July 21st at Colonial Springs Golf Club in Farmingdale, NY. Presented by Jake’s 58 Casino Hotel, the event emphasizes charity, supporting Madison Square Garden’s Garden of Dreams Foundation, which assists young people facing severe challenges (00:34).

Quote:
Don La Greca: “The ESPNY Tee It Up Golf Challenge is coming next week... It's an important foundation and a great partnership we have here at ESPN New York.” (00:52)

Additionally, Alan Rosenberg highlights the annual Mark Sasso Softball event on August 23rd at WAG Field, Hawthorne, New Jersey, confirming the participation of notable personalities like Marty Lyons and Chris Canty (02:01).

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2. Host Banter and Personal Insights (03:05 - 04:09)

Don and Alan engage in light-hearted banter about Don’s potential return to golf after a 28-year hiatus since 1997. The conversation shifts to humorous exchanges about their dominant writing hands, revealing Alan as a left-handed writer unbeknownst to Don until recently (03:05).

Quote:
Don La Greca: “Every time I ask you for a pen, am I writing my right hand?” (03:12)
Alan Rosenberg: “No clue.” (03:12)

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3. Discussion on Vince Coleman’s Tarp Incident (04:09 - 13:05)

The hosts delve into a historical sports incident involving Vince Coleman during the 1985 National League Championship Series (NLCS). A caller, Ed from New Jersey, criticizes Coleman for being injured by an automatic tarp during a workout, asserting that the incident has led to changes in tarp safety measures.

Quote:
Caller Ed: “I think Vince Coleman ruined it for everybody with the tarp... he wasn’t paying attention to the automatic tarp at Busch Stadium.” (04:12)
Alan Rosenberg: “They won't do it again. That was 40 years ago.” (04:26)

Don La Greca shares his perspective, mentioning the absence of video footage and references Ozzie Smith’s autobiography, which describes the incident in detail. The tarp, estimated to weigh around 1,200 pounds, tragically entangled Coleman’s leg, making it difficult to reverse without further injury (12:41).

Quote:
Don La Greca: “Ozzie Smith described the scene... the tarp rolled over his foot and started to go up his leg.” (12:23)
Alan Rosenberg: “That's unreal. They couldn't lift it.” (12:37)

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4. Listener Calls: Quarterback Development Debate (08:40 - 22:17)

Caller 1: Eddie from Rockland (08:40 - 13:05)
Eddie raises a critical topic regarding the development of first-round quarterbacks in the NFL, specifically addressing the New York Giants' quarterback situation. He questions why newer quarterbacks like Jackson Dart aren't given opportunities earlier in the season, drawing comparisons to established players like Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes.

Quote:
Eddie: “Why can't we see if Jackson Dart week one has the spark or not instead of spoon feeding him until week 14?” (08:49)
Alan Rosenberg: “What’s wrong of him learning? Mahomes sat his entire rookie year.” (09:26)

The discussion intensifies as Don and Alan debate the merits and drawbacks of rushing a young quarterback into high-pressure scenarios. They explore the balance between player development and team performance, with Don advocating for a more patient approach to nurture the quarterback's potential without undue pressure.

Quote:
Don La Greca: “If you're going to develop a player, but you got to rush him to start even if he's not ready, maybe he needs a couple of weeks to get ready.” (10:16)
Alan Rosenberg: “I got no problem with that. He should not be forced to do anything he doesn't want to have to do.” (21:32)

Caller 2: Steph from New Brunswick (16:23 - 22:17)
A second caller, Steph, shares a heartfelt message about authenticity and happiness in sports, critiquing a golfer’s admission of unhappiness despite success. He emphasizes the importance of pursuing what genuinely brings joy, rather than succumbing to external pressures for success.

Quote:
Steph: “The sooner you can figure that out for yourself, the better you're going to be in the long run.” (16:34)
Don La Greca: “Sports is our escape from reality... if one of them doesn't really want to be here, it just kind of takes the wind out of your sails.” (19:28)

Alan and Don respond by affirming the importance of personal fulfillment over external rewards, echoing Steph’s sentiment that true happiness stems from doing what one loves without the constraints of sponsorships or public expectations.

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5. Inspirational Listener Message and Host Reflections (15:37 - 23:54)

A standout moment occurs when Steph lauds the hosts for their genuine happiness and influence, urging them to prioritize personal satisfaction over maintaining appearances for sponsors. This deepens the conversation about authenticity in sports and media.

Quote:
Steph: “If you're really doing truly what you want, you're not worried about that stuff to begin with.” (17:00)
Alan Rosenberg: “If this was a press conference, him announcing his retirement, I'd applaud it.” (21:10)

The hosts reflect on their own journeys, with Alan sharing personal milestones such as his 23rd anniversary working on the Michael K Show and expressing gratitude towards listeners like Steph who inspire them to remain true to their passions (23:30).

Quote:
Alan Rosenberg: “Today is my 23rd anniversary. It all started becoming a full-time host 23 years ago today.” (23:30)

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6. Closing Remarks and Upcoming Coverage (23:54 - End)

As the episode concludes, the hosts tease upcoming coverage of the All-Star Game from Atlanta, assuring listeners of comprehensive ESPN New York coverage. They invite listeners to tune in the following day at 3 PM for more engaging discussions and sports analysis.

Quote:
Don La Greca: “Hear more of Don, Alan, and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 880 ESPN New York.” (23:54)
Alan Rosenberg: “Talk to you again tomorrow at 3 right here on ESPN York.” (23:54)

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Key Takeaways:

• Charity and Community Engagement: The hosts emphasize their commitment to community events and charitable foundations, highlighting the ESPNY Tee Up Golf Challenge and the Mark Sasso Softball event as key initiatives supporting local causes.

• Historical Sports Incidents: A deep dive into Vince Coleman’s unfortunate tarp incident during the 1985 NLCS underscores the importance of safety measures in sports facilities.

• Player Development vs. Team Performance: The debate over quarterback development reflects broader themes in sports about nurturing talent versus immediate results, resonating with listeners who are passionate about team strategies and player careers.

• Authenticity and Personal Fulfillment: Through listener interactions, the hosts explore the significance of authenticity in sports and media, encouraging individuals to pursue their true passions for long-term happiness and success.

• Engaged and Supportive Community: The heartfelt messages from listeners like Steph illustrate the strong connection between the hosts and their audience, fostering a sense of community and mutual respect.

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Notable Quotes from the Episode:

1. Don La Greca on Charity:

   • “The ESPNY Tee It Up Golf Challenge is coming next week... It's an important foundation and a great partnership we have here at ESPN New York.” (00:52)

2. Alan on Quarterback Development:

   • “What’s wrong of him learning? Mahomes sat his entire rookie year.” (09:26)

3. Steph’s Inspirational Message:

   • “If you're really doing truly what you want, you're not worried about that stuff to begin with.” (17:00)

4. Alan on Personal Fulfillment:

   • “If this was a press conference, him announcing his retirement, I'd applaud it.” (21:10)

5. Alan’s Personal Milestone:

   • “Today is my 23rd anniversary. It all started becoming a full-time host 23 years ago today.” (23:30)

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This episode of "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" offers a blend of sports analysis, personal anecdotes, and heartfelt listener interactions, providing valuable insights into both the hosts' professional endeavors and personal philosophies. Whether discussing historical sports events, debating player development strategies, or reflecting on the importance of authenticity, the hosts deliver engaging and thoughtful content for their New York-based audience.

Transcript

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[Don La Greca]

This is the Don Han at Rosenberg podcast.

[Alan Rosenberg]

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[Don La Greca]

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[Alan Rosenberg]

Nice. Want to throw out there? And I'm going to send out the information, but August 23rd is the mark Sasso softball. We do it every year.

[Don La Greca]

Can't wait.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Looking forward to it. Five o' clock that Saturday. WAG Field, Hawthorne, New Jersey. Same place we always have it and everybody is saying yes. So Alan and Peter are going to be there.

[Don La Greca]

You finally have it on board. I'm not.

[Alan Rosenberg]

I know you're not. Somewhere like taking Zach to a hockey tournament, right? Which is how you missed Most of them. Chris Cant. He's agreed to come. Nice Buttle. We're going to have a Marty Lyons. We're going to have Chris Canty. We're going to have Chris Carlin. Looking forward to having him. Dan Grassa. So, so many people have agreed to come. Danico is going to be there as he confirmed with us last week when we had him on.

[Don La Greca]

Oh, that's great.

[Alan Rosenberg]

So that's going to be August 23rd. We'll have all the details on how you can get a team, because a lot of the money that's donated are people that put teams up to play other teams in a tournament that eventually play us in, in what is the event. So it happens all day and there's all kinds of stuff. So I have more details as we get a little bit closer, but I want to throw that out there. But Monday's gonna be really cool, too. We're gonna be out there. And will Don try golf again for the first time since 1997? 28 years.

[Don La Greca]

Do you have clubs?

[Alan Rosenberg]

No.

[Don La Greca]

No. You're righty.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Yes. You're a lefty.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Alan Rosenberg]

But you don't write left, do you?

[Don La Greca]

Yes, I do. I've been sitting next to you for six months. No clue.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

Every time I ask you for a pen, am I writing my right hand?

[Alan Rosenberg]

I don't.

[Don La Greca]

Where's my page? It's on the left side.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Did you know he was a lefty, Jacob? I found that out the other day, I think.

[Don La Greca]

Other day? Yes. I've been working on you for, like, five years. Listen, other day, I think Ray pointed it out that you're a lefty. And I said, why is he scrolling with his right hand on the computer? So I was confused about that. And everybody's like, I'm sure he's a.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Lefty, and no matter what hand he uses, it's not working.

[Don La Greca]

Basically, the computer.

[Alan Rosenberg]

We're losing.

[Don La Greca]

That line right there is a drop.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Don't. Don't make. That's deceiving because we proved during Talk about It Tuesday, everything for Allen's working fine.

[Don La Greca]

And it's all on the table.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Don La Greca]

Sometimes even the table.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Yeah. Rug ceiling depends on how it works itself out. I'll give you a challenge. Let's go to Ed in New Jersey. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, Ed?

[Caller]

Hi, Don. Hi, Alan.

[Alan Rosenberg]

What's up?

[Caller]

Thanks for taking my call.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Always.

[Caller]

Now, I think Vince Coleman ruined it for everybody with the tarp. Ever since he had that incident during that workout during the 85 NLCS where he got run over by the automatic tarp.

[Alan Rosenberg]

That's right. Now they won't do it again. Right? Is that the reason that they've kept it the way that it is now? I forgot about. That was 40 years ago. That was a long time ago, man. God.

[Caller]

Like I said, it was during a workout. He either hurt his knee or his leg. For a guy who stole over 100 bases that year, he wasn't paying attention to the automatic tarp at Busch Stadium. God.

[Don La Greca]

I absolutely can't. We just make sure that players are aware of it. All right, let me. Let me see this.

[Alan Rosenberg]

People get in a car accident.

[Don La Greca]

Let me see this.

[Alan Rosenberg]

We don't stop driving. We're looking it up.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah. There is video. There's video of everything. It's really amazing. We should be getting into it, getting to it pretty soon. Here. NBC Sports presents the NL championship series.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Got it. You know, I was never the biggest fan of Dick Enberg. I know that sounds awful.

[Don La Greca]

What's wrong with Dick Enberg?

[Alan Rosenberg]

Nothing wrong with him. Just wasn't. It wasn't my cup of tea.

[Don La Greca]

So here it goes. Oh, it's like. Yeah, okay. Oh, it's already torn. See, it's ripped.

[Alan Rosenberg]

God, it looks like a garbage.

[Don La Greca]

It really is just. It's so primitive.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

And it's just a little, like, cart driving its way out. And there's Vince Coleman just laying down. So we don't have video of it.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Of it happening? No, because it was during the workout, but it became.

[Don La Greca]

We're interviewing the bat boy, though.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Find out. Yeah, maybe the bat boy. They pinned it on him.

[Don La Greca]

Oh, that's terrible.

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[Alan Rosenberg]

Let's go to Eddie in Rockland. You're on espn.

[Don La Greca]

Stretcher.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Damn, not good.

[Caller]

What's going on, fellas?

[Alan Rosenberg]

How are you, man?

[Caller]

Eddie, all right, question for you. You know, would you have, would you say in the past two or three years, the first round quarterback selections, when they started, you knew right away if they had the spark or not. You know, Daniels, Bo Nicks, you know, whatever. Guys, why can't we see if Jackson Dart week one has the spark or not instead of, you know, spoon feeding him until week 14 to the buy.

[Alan Rosenberg]

But Eddie, why? Why? He was the 24th overall.

[Caller]

What do you mean why? Because Russell Wilson is not going to bring us to the Super Bowl. It's just a waste of time.

[Alan Rosenberg]

No, it's not a waste of time because I want this. This kid was the 24th overall pick in the draft. He wasn't the first overall pick. You've got a veteran and you've got a veteran backing him up in Winston. What was. What would be so wrong of him learning? Seeing it helped Mahomes. Mahomes basically sat his entire rookie year. And then you saw what he was able to do. Why rush it when you don't have to?

[Caller]

Because the most important thing the Giants have to show this year that Brian Dable can develop something.

[Don La Greca]

Because if you drag it, that's why. But that. But Eddie. No, no, no, no. I know what you're saying. Dragging it to another year buys him more time. But Eddie, the whole idea of developing a quarterback. I understand. No, I understand. So your motivation is more about Dable and not about dart. You can't start dart week one if he's not ready. Just because you want to see your coach develop. See, that's like you're contradicting the whole idea, the plan. I'm trying to develop a player, but I got to rush him to start. Even if he's not ready, maybe he needs a couple of weeks to get ready. You can't just throw him out there just because I need to make a decision on my coach. I'm not going to ruin a kid just so I can make a decision on my coach.

[Caller]

Okay. How many losses before you'll turn the week over to Jackson Darton?

[Alan Rosenberg]

It's not about how many losses because let's not forget you have Jameis Winston sitting there, too.

[Don La Greca]

And if the. But if the team stinks, like you're not, like I'm telling you right now, you're looking at after Halloween at the earliest. Do you start thinking about Jackson Dart?

[Alan Rosenberg]

I need to know what it looks like. Let's say the Giants start 05, which is clearly on the table.

[Don La Greca]

It's possible.

[Alan Rosenberg]

And one of the reasons they're so terrible is their offensive line stinks. Their quarterbacks running for his life.

[Don La Greca]

The last thing you.

[Alan Rosenberg]

No offense to Wilson or Winston. I'd rather have those guys beat up. They're not my future. Not Jackson Dart.

[Don La Greca]

No, you can't. And if you're John Mara, like, look that kids in your organization, whether you're going to keep the coach or not, so you can't do it. By the way, this tarp thing, I'm obsessed with this Ozzie Smith described because there's no video of it. I'm sorry, we're going off a left turn Here, but I'll be quick. Ozzie Smith described the scene in his autobiography. You ready? So Vince Coleman was standing right at the edge of the tarp. He turned to toss his glove to somebody who was headed to the dugout. Just as he turned, his foot slipped on the Astroturf, which is at Busch Stadium. It was wet, so it was slippery. He fell, the tarp rolled over his foot and started to go up his leg. So everybody ran over there to get the guy controlling that automated tarp machine who was already down by first base to shut the thing off. But in order to reverse it, he had to go back over Vince's leg.

[Alan Rosenberg]

That's unreal. They couldn't lift it.

[Don La Greca]

I don't get it. Now I really need to see it because could you just imagine the scene of running the guy's leg over and then going, okay, let's bring it back. We're gonna run his leg over again. They couldn't take his leg out.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Was it that heavy that there wasn't enough people to lift it up?

[Don La Greca]

That is very true.

[Alan Rosenberg]

I remember it, but I just don't remember it in that kind of situation.

[Don La Greca]

Oh, well, okay. It's the cylinder that's inside the tarp that rolls. They estimated that it weighed approximately 1200 pounds.

[Alan Rosenberg]

On his leg. I mean, it rolled right over his leg, man.

[Don La Greca]

That's probably why couldn't he, once it rolled over once, couldn't he just slip it out? Like was it, was it £1,200?

[Alan Rosenberg]

I'm surprised it wasn't like liquefied at that point. Oh, my God. Tough, tough. All right, there's somebody on hold wants to disagree with Alan. We've got that to do. Take up until 7:00'.

[Caller]

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[Alan Rosenberg]

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[Don La Greca]

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[Alan Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don La Greca]

Catch this show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Fun show. Take up till 7 o'. Clock. Do it all again tomorrow at 3. We'll have a list tomorrow. Oh, so we've got to discuss this.

[Don La Greca]

List on the way home.

[Alan Rosenberg]

We got to get the get to work on that.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Alan Rosenberg]

So. And we'll recap. Hopefully an All Star Game. Last we saw the TARP was on the field. So I don't know if that game is going to get delayed, but when it's played it will be here on 880 coverage beginning right after our show. 1-800-919-3776. Steph is in New Brunswick. You're on ESPN New York. What's up buddy?

[Caller]

Hey, what's going on guys? Man, it's North Brunswick. Actually a little south of there.

[Alan Rosenberg]

They put N. Brunswick, so I had to guess or new, so I guessed wrong. I'm sorry.

[Caller]

No, it's all good. But listen, first of all, I'm honored to even be on the air right now. I only. Would only call it like this if I only feel a certain way. My mom put me on to the Michael K Show 20 something years ago. I think it was. I don't know how long ago is. But shout out to her and look, Alan, I love you, and I really, really mean that with all my heart. But I just have to say one thing. This is how much I listen to you guys and respect you guys. I don't even remember the golfer's name. But the fact that you brought up that he was saying that he wasn't happy despite. Yeah, okay, Scotty Shepler. Yes. The fact that you brought up that he was saying that he wasn't happy despite all his success, I think is actually the right message he should be sending versus the wrong message. And here's why. Because the sooner you can figure that out for yourself, the better you're gonna be in the long run. Let me ask you and Don, personally, you both have even said it, despite everything, the way it worked out, you both are both happy with what you're doing, where you are, right? Yes. And the reason this is because you're doing what you love to do. Yes or no? Yes. So if anything, if you have that kind of influence and you have that kind of platform and you come to that realization and you're able to express that to the general population and in the world, don't you think that should be the right message versus worrying about sponsors and all that? Because at the end of the day, if you're really doing truly what you want, you're not worried about that stuff to begin with. All that stuff will take care of itself in the long run, regardless.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Yeah, but you're asking people to pay money to see you play ultimately.

[Caller]

Right.

[Alan Rosenberg]

The reason he makes the money that he makes is because people.

[Don La Greca]

Sponsors give him money.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Sponsors give him money, People pay.

[Don La Greca]

And those are. It's not cheap to go to a major.

[Alan Rosenberg]

And I don't think somebody that pays, you know, a couple of hundred bucks to go to the Masters and watch him play. Want to hear from one of the players that this ultimately is not that important.

[Don La Greca]

It's like he. That's the only. Like, we're not. I'm not criticizing. I just want you to know, Steph, I'm not criticizing him for being open about his feelings and his thoughts. I'M all for that. You know, it's something that weighed heavily on his mind. But what I'm saying, I think Dom said it, too, is like, I understand how you feel. And I really kind of feel bad because he sounds like he's conflicted by it. Like, it's almost like he wishes he could feel it. It's just saying that out loud will turn off a lot of people that the. Your sport relies on. On that kind of support. So it's almost like.

[Caller]

Okay, go ahead. I'm sorry.

[Don La Greca]

When they announce him at the tee, how many people around are just going to go, oh, that's the guy doesn't care. That's the guy who doesn't really want to be here. It's uninspiring. Look, sports is our escape from reality. It's the inspiring things that could happen in any moment that give us this hope and realization that there are sometimes entertaining things that can happen in the world. And these are great athletes, and this is just amazing to watch. And then you're told that one of them doesn't really want to be here and doesn't think it's all that important, and then you just kind of go, oh, okay. It kind of takes the. Takes the wind out of your sails. I'm not. I'm not here. I'm only here to be entertained because I live that humdrum regular life. I need to be entertained by it.

[Caller]

But see, if you're saying that, then I have to question whether or not you're really happy with what you. What you're doing, because here's. Okay, so the reason why I feel so strongly about this, and I'm not trying to take it off on a tangent, I want it to remain in sports. Okay. Like, I do have somewhat of a sports background, nowhere near on the level of you or anything like that. But what I'm saying is that I grew up in sports. It was a big part of my life. And yet at some point, I realized that, okay, it wasn't going to be the end all. Be all. And I had to find what I needed to find to ultimately be happy with. And everybody's success is different.

[Don La Greca]

That's true.

[Caller]

And clearly it sounds like from what he's going through, he never wanted to do this to begin with. If he's really feeling this way, because just because it comes easy to you doesn't mean it's for you.

[Don La Greca]

Here's what I would do, here's what.

[Alan Rosenberg]

I would say, and we're up against it, so we appreciate that. Thank you.

[Don La Greca]

For the call.

[Alan Rosenberg]

If this was a press conference, him announcing his retirement, him walking away from golf, I'd applaud it.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Spent $152 million as a golfer. Generational wealth that we can only fantasize about. If he doesn't like it anymore, stop doing it.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Like you, the caller just said, you know, I, I, I, I walked away. Sports is not that important.

[Don La Greca]

You walked away. Yeah.

[Alan Rosenberg]

So if, if he doesn't want to do it anymore, more power to him, man.

[Caller]

Walk away.

[Alan Rosenberg]

I got no problem with that. He should not be forced to do anything he doesn't want to have to do. And he's made his money.

[Don La Greca]

Walk away.

[Alan Rosenberg]

But if he's going to continue to make the money, continue to go and play and continue to honor his sponsors and the fans, well, then, Alan, I think he's being disingenuous to continue to do it. He doesn't need to do it financially.

[Don La Greca]

No.

[Alan Rosenberg]

So as long as he keeps doing it, I think just keep it to yourself. And then when you walk away, you can say, the reason I walked away was because of that.

[Don La Greca]

Who's he inspiring?

[Alan Rosenberg]

Nope. He doesn't want to inspire.

[Don La Greca]

That's what I mean. But, like, he's being honest, which is great. But that, that's, that's the part where it's just like, all right, that's great. But, you know, unless you're going through something and you need to get it out, which I. Then I completely understand.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Walk away. But you're gonna still take. I don't know. His sponsors are. But let's say one of his sponsors is Ping.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, you take.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Now, the reason that they have his sponsor because they. We want to get people into golf and to buy our product. And if you're telling people, don't get into golf, it's not worth it. Well, then you're. I'm gonna, I'm not gonna. You're not gonna be somebody that is gonna be working for us.

[Don La Greca]

There is radar outside of Truist Stadium.

[Alan Rosenberg]

They're not smelling Truist Park.

[Don La Greca]

No pockets of rain and thunder all around. But it should be over by first pitch.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Oh, thank God. It's July 15th. And the reason I know that is because it's my brother Dave legreca's birthday. So happy birthday to Dave. And because it happened on his birthday, since the caller mentioned that his mom got him into the Michael K. Show 20 years ago. Was that on this date in 2002 was when the Michael K. Show started. So that means Today is my 23rd anniversary. Of working on Michael K. Show. Well, drive time in 2005, but how it all kind of began for me from doing updates and fill in to. So it all started becoming a full time host 23 years ago today.

[Don La Greca]

And look at, and look at you now.

[Alan Rosenberg]

And then September 5th will be September 3rd will be the 24th anniversary of working at this fine establishment. So we got some time before that celebration. Alan, great job. This was fun.

[Don La Greca]

That's good news. We celebrate now.

[Alan Rosenberg]

Jacob and Anthony, great job by you guys as well. Our coverage of the All Star Game from Atlanta is coming up next. Talk to you again tomorrow at 3 right here on ESPN York.

[Don La Greca]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, but I just want to know it's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.

[Alan Rosenberg]

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[Caller]

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[Don La Greca]

Created a monotonous rhythm to the game. Has the three pointer ruined basketball? And how did we get here? The rise of the three point shot can be partially traced to an eccentric.

[Alan Rosenberg]

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[Don La Greca]

I decided I wanted to have one of the most organized goodbyes in history and I think I will be successful. 30 for 30 podcast presents a brand new original series, Chasing basketball heaven, available July 22. Wherever you get your podcasts.