Hour 4: Double Dump

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast Summary Episode: Hour 4: Double Dump
Release Date: January 9, 2025

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1. Sports Updates and Highlights (00:30 - 05:48)

The episode kicks off with Don Hahn and Peter Rosenberg delving into the latest sports happenings. They discuss the performance of the Rangers, who have secured points in three of their last four games, and the Devils, who recently snapped a four-game losing streak with a victory against Seattle. The conversation naturally transitions to college football playoffs and the Knicks' upcoming game following their win against the Raptors.

Notable Quotes:

• Peter Rosenberg (00:41): “Don and Peter take up the Rangers, Hockey Rangers and the Devils over at the Garden…”
• Don Hahn (01:19): “He was tremendous. And a hell of a phone line, which means a lot.”
• Peter Rosenberg (02:17): “Not sure he's a hall of Famer. I won't go.”

2. Listener Calls and Discussions on David Wright (01:37 - 02:44)

The hosts receive a call from Jose in Atlanta, who praises David Wright, expressing utmost respect and highlighting Wright's contributions to baseball and the Mets organization. Don and Peter echo these sentiments, acknowledging Wright's impressive 14-year career and his deservingness of having his number retired.

Notable Quotes:

• Jose (01:37): “David Wright was outstanding as a Yankee fan. I always respected him.”
• Don Hahn (02:17): “But he's definitely a number retirement guy.”
• Peter Rosenberg (02:39): “He was a lot of fun to follow. He had a great 14 year career…”

3. Disaster Preparedness Tips (02:44 - 07:06)

Steve, a caller, shares valuable tips on disaster preparedness, emphasizing the importance of having readily accessible clothing and essentials in the event of emergencies like fires or floods. He suggests keeping a hamper stocked with clothes and small items for quick evacuation and proposes stadiums as potential disaster relief centers, highlighting the humanitarian benefits over continuing scheduled events during crises.

Notable Quotes:

• Steve (02:44): “If you are in a situation where you need to get out of your house real fast… grab your dirty clothes hanger…”
• Peter Rosenberg (04:16): “That's a good call.”
• Don Hahn (06:25): “You have to make these choices in the moment of what do you take?”

4. Social Media and Public Perception of LA (07:06 - 12:27)

A significant portion of the episode centers on Don Hahn's recent social media post about Los Angeles wildfires. Don expresses frustration over negative comments from East Coast listeners who perceive LA as "fake." He shares his personal connection and love for LA, lamenting how his genuine sentiments were overshadowed by users turning the conversation into self-centered critiques.

Notable Quotes:

• Don Hahn (07:09): “People... hate on LA. LA is so fake... We love LA.”
• Don Hahn (09:04): “Why do you follow some, like, public person who you hate just to leave them negative comments?”
• Don Hahn (11:01): “I wrote a post about it and I'm like a lot of New Yorkers and East coast people in general hate on LA. LA is so fake. I hate it.”

5. Further Listener Interactions and Feedback (12:27 - 17:36)

The hosts interact with more listeners, including Danny from the Poconos and Mike from Woodmere. Danny, a first-time caller, shares his support for the new show amidst West Coast challenges, expressing love and encouragement. Mike offers heartfelt praise, discussing the impact of social media on people's self-perception and commending the hosts for their authenticity.

Notable Quotes:

• Danny (12:35): “I'm really happy for you guys and everybody.”
• Mike (13:52): “Social media does an awful lot of good. But there's an awful lot of people out there... you guys got the biggest hearts.”

6. Discussion on Show Dynamics and the Role of a "Heel" (15:25 - 17:13)

Don and Peter explore the concept of incorporating a "heel" (antagonist) into their new show. Don expresses skepticism about himself fitting this role due to his likable nature, while Peter reflects on how external perceptions, particularly political views, influence listener biases. They acknowledge the complexity of adopting such a role and its impact on audience reception.

Notable Quotes:

• Peter Rosenberg (15:25): “I think most of the people that had an opinion on Michael, based on the fact that he calls Yankee games, people are not on the fence about the Yankees. They either love him or hate them.”
• Don Hahn (16:09): “I could see [Don] being the heel is humanly possible. He's very handsome, he's very successful…”
• Peter Rosenberg (16:48): “And so I think a lot of that came from that. I don't think it had anything to do with his personality.”

7. Humorous Bloopers and Closing Remarks (17:36 - End)

The episode concludes with light-hearted moments as Danny inadvertently uses an expletive while expressing his support, leading to playful banter between Don and Peter. They also mention feedback from Ebro, adding another layer of humor to the closing segment. Don wraps up the episode by thanking listeners and promoting upcoming shows.

Notable Quotes:

• Don Hahn (17:36): “You're really good with the social media, Don.”
• Peter Rosenberg (17:50): “He sounded like a good guy.”
• Don Hahn (19:10): “Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3pm…”

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Key Takeaways:

• Sports Passion: The hosts maintain their core focus on New York sports, providing updates and engaging discussions on teams like the Rangers, Devils, and Knicks.

• Listener Engagement: Through various calls, Don and Peter connect with their audience, addressing topics from sports legends to practical advice on disaster preparedness.

• Social Media Critique: A prominent theme is the impact of social media on personal expression and public perception, especially concerning genuine sentiments being overshadowed by negativity.

• Show Development: The introduction of the concept of a "heel" for their new show indicates an exploration of new dynamics to engage listeners, balancing personality traits with audience expectations.

• Humor and Relatability: The episode balances serious discussions with humor, making the content relatable and entertaining for listeners.

Conclusion:

In "Hour 4: Double Dump," Don Hahn and Peter Rosenberg adeptly blend sports commentary with personal insights and listener interactions. They tackle significant issues like disaster preparedness and the challenges of maintaining authenticity in the age of social media, all while fostering a sense of community and support among their audience. The episode showcases their chemistry, humor, and commitment to engaging content, making it a worthwhile listen for both regular followers and newcomers.

Transcript

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[Don Hahn]

This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That sounds like heaven to me.

[Don Hahn]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8:80, ESPN, the ESPN New York.

[Peter Rosenberg]

App and your smart speakers, 6:06 in the big city. Don and Peter take up the Rangers, Hockey Rangers and the Devils over at the Garden. Kenny Albert and Dave Maloney will have the call coming up at seven of the pregame show coming up at the bottom of the hour as the Rangers have earned points in three of their last four while the Devils had a four game losing streak snapped on Sunday when the win against Seattle. So we got the playoffs tonight in college football. Knicks play tomorrow after a win against the Raptors last night. Lots going on. And how good was David Wright, by the way? That was fun to talk about.

[Don Hahn]

He was tremendous. And a hell of a phone line, which means a lot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's half the battle, right? Especially on this show if you have.

[Don Hahn]

A good phone line.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Come on, you're in good shape.

[Don Hahn]

Let's go. There's so many people to choose from. Don, your thoughts? You have any? You want NFL? You want a little Metallica? You want David Wright?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I want all of them. So you, you hit it.

[Don Hahn]

All right, let's go to Jose in Atlanta. Hey, Jose.

[Jose]

Hey, fellas. I, I just wanted to quickly give David right as a Yankee fan, utmost respect. And the Mets are doing a very classy thing retiring that man's number. He was an outstanding baseball player and more than anything, he really represented baseball and the Mets organization in a very classy way. If there was any justice, Donnie, baseball didn't get in. Ironically, his career was cut short because of his back as well. But if there was any credibility in the hall of Fame, they put both those guys in. I just wanted to say that David Wright was outstanding as a Yankee fan. I always respected him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, he's classy guy, he really was. And you wonder if the back didn't go bad, you know, how much more he could have done. But no, he was, he was a Lot of fun. He was a lot of fun to follow. He had a great 14 year career and I was so happy he got a chance to play in the World Series. And it was really fun talking to him. And he deserves to have his number retired. Not sure he's a hall of Famer. I won't go.

[Don Hahn]

But he's definitely a number retirement guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He is definitely a great method.

[Don Hahn]

All right, let's go to Steve in the car. Hey, Steve.

[Steve]

Hey, guys. Sorry about that. Hey, guys. I'm glad to have you out. I hope whatever's going on with Han goes well. I just had a quick tip about, like, dealing with disasters and stuff like that. If you are in a situation where you need to get out of your house real fast and you can see like something coming with a fire or flood, you grab your dirty clothes hanger because people often just don't have any clothes when they escape from a disaster. And you generally have just a lot of stuff in your hamper that you could wear or reuse or what have you. Whatever you get to, wherever you're going, you might be able to get some. You might be able to get them all cleaned up. You can just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I never thought about that. That's a good call.

[Steve]

You can just. Yeah, you can just throw a bunch of stuff into the hamper itself, like all little knickknacks or maybe, maybe a small animal and just, and just run. And that's just one of the, like, generic disaster relief tips that, that disaster relief.

[Don Hahn]

It's a pretty good generic disaster relief tip.

[Steve]

And, and like, I just wanted to put out on the airwaves also get, like, maybe it could help somebody in this, you know, horrible situation. Like one last thing about the, the, the stadium. Stadiums become disaster relief centers in these kind of situations. That's another reason they should just move it and, and then just like, hey, we open the stadium for everybody because their lives are more important. And that would be amazing marketing for them and make more money being good like that than if they kept the game there. So that's what I wanted to say.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I think it should move. I think it probably will move. I wouldn't be surprised if you hear an announcement, but we're all hoping that the game does stay there, meaning that everything really turned around over the last 24 hours. But I think that's probably wishful thinking at this point, but hopefully it'll happen. You know, you see these commercials like Havada have a evacuation plan, a disaster, and, you know, you think, oh, that's that's, you know, I don't live in an earthquake area. We usually know when a hurricane's coming. But he just brought a good point, you know, that, you know, what are you going to grab? You know, grab some clothes. You don't know how far you're going to be out. And hopefully you have the time to get out. But nobody thinks they're going to have to worry about it, and it could happen.

[Don Hahn]

So when Dipperstein was trying to got evacuated last night, I was like, what are you bringing? And he was like, I'm just gonna bring some clothes and some of my childhood stuff. And so he filled. Cause just in the last couple years, his parents sent him all of his childhood stuff to la. He's from Pennsylvania, outside Philly. They were moving. So when they moved, they shipped all of his kid's stuff to him. So he just packed up some of his kids stuff and his clothes and left. But I'm like, At the time I'm thinking, and I know this is like first. What's. What's the word? First world problem. There you go. That's what I'm looking for. But I'm like, what about your art? Like, dip likes buying art. Not like super crazy, you know, Monet or anything, but, you know, he has some nice art that he loved. Couldn't do it, just left the house. I'm like, it's all gonna. You have to make these choices in the moment of what do you take?

[Peter Rosenberg]

But how big's the moment? If you've got like a day or two to evacuate, you can do all that. But if they're like, you got to get it out of the house in the next like 10 minutes. And some of it's here, some of it's there, some of it's over there.

[Don Hahn]

And by the way, the moving of stuff is sort of like the moving of the game. You fill up your whole whatever van, whatever SUV you can with everything you got, and God willing, the fire doesn't make it to your house and you have to then go back a few days later and unpack all of this stuff and it's well worth it. It's the same thing with being the NFL right now. You hope that you're moving the game for no reason.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's the hope.

[Don Hahn]

But move it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The other thing I suggest you do, because I have this. I don't know if you have like a strong box, like something that you can lock that would survive a fire, where you can put like the deed to the house, insurance policies, like, stuff that you really will need. God forbid, if there's a disaster that is a strong enough box that would survive a fire or something catastrophic. Probably a good idea to have something like that too.

[Don Hahn]

Where the hell is the Titamayo? Should I know that? I should know where that is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, imagine. Well, if something God forbid happened, I know.

[Don Hahn]

Well, but hold on, does that mean there's no record that I own the house?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, no, I think there is, but it's probably a lot easier. Believe me, trying to go get copies of these things is like impossible.

[Don Hahn]

Can I just tell you for a moment how much I hate people?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Honestly? Sure. I can get on both sides.

[Don Hahn]

So, like, this is. This is. So during the commercial break, I put up a post with lots of photos of myself and Natalie and Dipperstein in la. And I wrote a very personal post because I have a very personal relationship with la and I really do love it. Natalie and I do. And I've always told you that. And Natalie and I have always wanted to get a place there and so. And I have so many friends there and so I wrote a post about it and I'm like, hey, you know a lot of east coast people and tell me I'm anything. I. Guys stop me when I'm saying something that's not true. I'm like a lot of New Yorkers and East coast people in general hate on la. LA is so fake. I hate it. I said, that's not me or Natalie. We love la. We've always wanted to get a place there. I have so many friends there that I care about and this is heartbreaking. The people from LA on my comments are of course saying thank you, blah, blah, blah. But then it just filled with the way to make this about yourself. Read the room. You're such a piece of garbage. This isn't about you. It. It's my social media and I'm giving my feelings about a thing that all of us are feeling. If you care about the place, like, why do these people follow you if they're waiting to interpret every word you say? Well, they hate you. Why? I don't follow one person I hate, but they do. Can someone take me through that? If you're out there and you're listening, I don't mean me or don't. Do you follow some, like, public person who you hate just to leave them negative comments? I want to explore your brain. Like, if you really think I'm that bad a guy that when I'm putting up my personal feelings about something and you have a way to make it all about yourself. And you know what they said, Don? They said, really? You couldn't have just said praying for la? That's the most generic, dumb nothing. I don't. By the way, no problem with people who did that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I get it.

[Don Hahn]

But that's supposed to be the gold standard. It's saying the same thing everyone else says that's helping the word. You think God is scanning Instagram going, well, if I read enough praying for la's, then I'll stop the fire.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'll stop the fire. Just haven't had enough yet.

[Don Hahn]

What I don't want is anyone to give their actual feelings on this place. That's a part of America that people are really feeling right now. People are just out of their minds. I got to know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I got to know what they're thinking.

[Don Hahn]

You're really good with the social media, Don.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I do find it interesting that somebody will absolutely destroy you. Like you said with the new show, I hope it fails. I only listened for K anyway, and I look and I was like, you follow me? Like, why do you follow if you hate me so much, why do you follow me? And then I realized that's because you got issues, man.

[Don Hahn]

So why should I worry about what you have? Why are there. It's really troubling that in this era, though, we have so many people that are that troubled because a lot of people are doing this. If you go look at any big post from, like, a celebrity, you'll see lots of comments from people being disgusting, and it's like, who are you? Why do you follow them? Like, I don't. Don. I don't care if the person's Kim Kardashian. Why do you follow her if you hate her?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because you, for some reason, just enjoy hating people. So why would I value your opinion if that's the only reason you're doing it? People don't like me. Listen, there's plenty of people I don't care for. Last thing I'm doing is following them on social media. Whatever. That's a you problem.

[Don Hahn]

Here's Seth. Who's gonna tell me why I'm wrong? Go ahead. Why am I wrong?

[Steve]

Hey, Peter, I think you didn't make it a little bit about yourself because you said that there are New Yorkers and East coast people who think LA is fake. If you would have left that part out by saying that those people are fake and you're never fake.

[Danny]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Don Hahn]

That's not what I. No, no, Seth, Seth. I said there are people out There who say that LA is fake. I didn't say the people are fake.

[Steve]

Correct. Correct. That LA is. I don't think that had to do with the wildfire. I think even if people think that LA is fake, every normal human being is going to think the wildfires are going to Seth.

[Don Hahn]

But, Seth, I'm glad you're explaining this because maybe this is giving me insight as to people's reading comprehension. The reason it's being said, Seth, is to imply on my page as the person writing that I am incredibly fond of la. I've had a million conversations where I go, I got back from la, people go, ugh, I hate la. I'm like, not me. I love la. Love going there, love spending extended time there. The point was just saying that I really love the place, that's all. Why is that?

[Steve]

I get that. I get that. I think I understood your post. I'm just looking as the devil's advocate here, saying that you did kind of. You said that there are people who think LA is fake that could have been left out. That's why I think people were probably upset about it.

[Don Hahn]

I hear. You know what? You're obviously right. Thanks, Seth. I appreciate it. You're obviously right. That is the piece that triggered people, I guess no one, maybe. Don, people don't like to be reminded of the truth when you're seeing something that's obviously overall sad. I'm not suggesting that you can't be someone who says LA is fake and also feels bad about the fires. I understand that. I'm just establishing that there are some people who live on the east coast who don't always have to badmouth la. They're like, no, I really did go into la. That's all. Let's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's go to something that I.

[Don Hahn]

Listen, let's go to Danny in the. In the Poconos. Hey, Danny.

[Danny]

Hey, what's going on, guys?

[Don Hahn]

How you doing, bud?

[Danny]

First time caller. I'm originally from the Bronx and I was there when you. Rosenberg, when you first started working at Hot 97 and you had that Sunday night show in 07.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, thank you, man. And guess what? Still have the Sunday night show. Please tune in midnight every Sunday.

[Danny]

Oh, yeah. And. And Don, I've been listening to you to my. And Michael K since day one. I have an affinity for Michael K because I'm from the Bronx. But okay, you guys got a lot of stuff. And I just. With all the craziness going on in the West Coast, I just wanted to tell you guys I love you. Guys, you guys are the best. It's just amazing that you guys got this new show, and I'm really happy for you guys and everybody.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, my God. Danny, no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, my. That went off the rail.

[Don Hahn]

It was like a car accident.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I don't think he meant it.

[Don Hahn]

No, he didn't mean it, but, boy, that was bad.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don't follow up your accidental swear with.

[Don Hahn]

A swear with a swear. I wish we could have. Could we get a. Could that turn into a drop with a double bleep? Because that was something. Yes, that was something.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Get to work on that, Jacob. I think that could be fun.

[Don Hahn]

Let's go to Peter and the bra. Oh, no, Peter's gone because I dropped him. I hit drop instead of picking up the call. Call back. Peter, let's go to Mike and Woodmere. Hey, Mike. Hey, guys.

[Mike]

How you doing?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Good.

[Mike]

I just wanted to say I love the new show. I've listened to you guys for a long time. Don, I think you're absolutely amazing. I know we're not talking about hockey tonight, but I'd love to call back one day and talk to you. I have a couple questions, but with respect to social media, I always say this to my wife. Whenever we have arguments, you're trying to put logic to the illogical. And there's an awful lot of people out there that just. No matter what you say, no matter how hard you try and make them understand things, the social media does an awful lot of good. But there's an awful lot of people. I saw something on YouTube where this guy says, you know what? One day we can all have flying cars. But the problem is everybody sitting on the toilet, sending out memes 17 hours a day. You didn't do anything wrong. You did something right. You spoke from the heart. But there's just an awful lot of people out there. And the way things are these days, you know, it makes good people doubt themselves. But neither of you guys should ever doubt yourselves because you guys got the biggest hearts, and I wish you nothing but the best.

[Don Hahn]

Mike, that's awesome, man. That's a really nice thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nice to say, Mike.

[Don Hahn]

I really appreciate that. Let's go to Peter, who I hung up on in the Bronx. Hey, Peter.

[Danny]

Hey. Thanks for hanging up.

[Steve]

It's fine.

[Danny]

I just wanted to give you guys. I think you guys doing a good job with the new show. Everyone's hating on the beginning just because they need a heel. They need the Yankee boy. They need the knock that is Michael. Okay, But I think there's gonna be haters. No matter what. But I think that hate went to Michael. That's why they were complaining.

[Don Hahn]

It's an interesting thought, you know, because the original way it was described in the line for your call, Peter, was it said, the show needs a heel. And it's funny. That is something that Natalie and I spoke about at the beginning of the show, before the show started, was like, will this new show that we're doing, Don Hahn and Rosenberg, will the show develop a heel now? I don't. Don can never be a heel. He's. I'm sorry, he's just a man of the people, and that's never going to be. He's a loved man. I am definitely a heel to some people. I'm aware of that. But I'm sort of like a split. It's sort of a split thing. Right. Allen has never been a heel previously. Don, as far as I know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't think so.

[Don Hahn]

But you know what? I could see it. I think it is humanly possible. He's very handsome, he's very successful, very tall. Don. Very thin and has a sharp side to him. I guess I'm the most likely candidate to end up being the heel, but I don't cope well with it. Let's be honest.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It is something that's difficult to commit to. To be the bad guy. But I just think the Yankees are so polarizing. I think most of the people that had an opinion on Michael, based on the fact that he calls Yankee games, people are not on the fence about the Yankees. They either love him or hate them.

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And so I think a lot of that came from that. I don't think it had anything to do with his personality. Same with you. There's a perception of you politically that get people to hate you. There's nothing hateable about you.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, thank you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I hate the baggage.

[Don Hahn]

Social media says otherwise. Not even just political. So many things that people hate about me, it's like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But the people that hate you for other reasons, probably the base hate, is what they perceive your political view.

[Don Hahn]

I would assume that. I think that's most of it. I think that's probably 75%. Who knows? Let's go to. We'll just let my therapist keep making money. It's fine. Let's go to this moment just a few seconds ago when we were talking to Danny and things went off the rails.

[Danny]

Everybody.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, my God. Danny, no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, my.

[Don Hahn]

It was so fast. That's such a good call.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he seemed like such a genuine person.

[Don Hahn]

And then everybody up. Oh, my God. Danny. No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh my. The blank everybody. He knew that was bad and followed it up with a blank. But usually people that say blank everyone are usually genuinely not good people. But he sounded like a good guy.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, no, he meant it in a good way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, well, I don't know how that's possible.

[Don Hahn]

No, blank everybody. He meant like we're. Cause he was with us. Ebro has chimed in.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Don Hahn]

He said Ebro says Han is unlikely handsome, Rosenberg is unlikely political and self righteous. Don is just likable.

[Peter Rosenberg]

See?

[Don Hahn]

See, it bodes well for you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm just honored he's listening.

[Don Hahn]

Self righteous. I mean, it's hot. Isn't everybody self righteous? If you believe that you're right about something, what's the difference between thinking you're right and being self righteous?

[Peter Rosenberg]

But if you have an opinion that you're self righteous, then you must think you're right a lot. Otherwise they wouldn't notice it.

[Don Hahn]

You know what?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know.

[Don Hahn]

Now I have to not only think about the comments on my Instagram, but what Ebro says about me as well.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I hope everything goes all right.

[Don Hahn]

Well, you know what? Either way, I'm going to settle in. I'm going to listen to this fine Ranger game and then listen to the college playoffs. Guys, we'll see you tomorrow at 3pm thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's good.

[Don Hahn]

Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.