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You got to talk more Knicks. I'm like, all right, well, here's your opportunity because I'm in full control of the show. So we were just discussing, actually, before we get to the NBA stuff, I did ask this question and we all can rely on Kofi when we have a question that needs to be answered. He's our Google, he's our Siri, he's our Alexa. And so Pusick, if you want to know, with Grisham signing the QO with the Yankees, he cannot be traded until June 15th. So that's, he's, he's at least here for half a season. And so, you know, like that's locked in. That's your center fielder. Yeah, there you go. And again, if you're, if you're Dominguez, you're really starting to wonder, where am I going to play next year? And the Yankees might say that, oh, no, we're still committed to him. We want to committed to his development. Maybe they don't want to rush him because he's young. But you get to a point where you're like, I don't want to be here because there's a, there's this now there's a glass ceiling in my way. Especially if Bellinger is part of the future as well. Uh, but. But onto the Knicks because they lose last night. 115, 113 in Miami. It's a home and home. Guys, you remember the Friday night game was the 1:40 to 1:32, I believe, was the final score. That game, Friday night was on Amazon prime was a crazy game. They lost Anunobi early in that game. They didn't have Brunson, obviously. Towns was insane. Like he just had himself a night. And then in the second half, the bench went crazy, especially with Landry Shamon. So Eric Spoelstra has two days now to prepare for all the things that you like to do. The corner threes, the offensive rebounding, physicality. And his team was ready. It's hard to sweep a home and home series in the NBA. It's difficult. And so that game was a grinder to the end. And the Knicks still had a chance to at least tie on the final possession to force overtime, and they just couldn't do it. And it was. You missed Brunson in that situation, clearly. And that's not. That's Captain Obvious stuff. I get it. Saying you missed a clutch player of the year in a Last minute, last 20 seconds possession is obvious. But they didn't get a good possession there. And you know, McBride had a nice game, but Deuce McBride ends up taking a shot at first. The first shot he took was a weird kind of runner with plenty of time left. But they get the rebound and then they have a stoppage. They do a jump ball and then Deuce gets the ball. They win the jump ball, which was huge. So now the shot at it and Deuce drives again and throws up a bit of a crazy shot, misses. And Towns gets it again. And this time his shot, which was like little Dirk Fadeaway rattles out. So it's, what are you going to do in that situation? They didn't make threes in the game. They only made nine. They only took 36. They're not going to shoot 25% from three all the season. They're a good three point shooting team. They're not going to have that struggle. That was a big part of it. That was a good game. It was a. It was a loss, which is frustrating, but it wasn't like they played bad and they were without two of their key players. Towns didn't have a great game. He has really struggled with his shooting for the most part this season, which is surprising. But what are they right now? Is the question. It's still too early to make any kind of declarations, we got to get to 20 games. So before you make any declarations, you want to get the 20 you got. What are we, 13 in? So there's still a few more games before we can really say, okay, what does it look like after 20. But this was a team that went into the season that had some championship caliber aspirations. They were a team that, you know, odds, odds on favorites, top three to win the NBA championship. It was Oklahoma City as a repeat. It was Denver Nuggets and then it was the Knicks and the Cavs tied for third. Now the Rockets are making the case. They look good. Denver looks really good. The Thunder, they don't lose. And this Pistons, the guys, this Pistons team that the Knicks played last year in the first round, I'm telling you, I'm watching them and it's like I'm a little worried. Like early on they, they look like that team. Every year there's a team that you didn't see it coming. They look like that team. I don't know how much they can, they can keep it going. They have played a favorable schedule, but the Knicks have also played a favorable schedule. They played a ton of games at home. They haven't won a road game yet. They're owing four in the road. So I have two concerns and neither one of our injuries. My concern for the Knicks is about their ability to defend. I want to see can they. That's an area because their offense looks great, but defensively, man, they struggle to stop drives. They struggle to get out and close out on threes, which has been a story that, that's before Mike Brown, that was a Tibbs issue. They couldn't close out threes then either. And teams shoot a high percentage. I think they're like 29th in the league in three point defense. And in today's NBA, the way, the way teams are shooting threes, you can't afford that. So I'm worried on the defensive end. Are they good enough defensively? Even with Mitchell Robinson, even with Og Anunoby, even with a guy like Mikhail Bridges who's getting like seven steals in a game, it's everywhere else. Teams are exploiting them and they're getting threes up. Even bad teams get threes up on them. And if you want to be a champion team, you got to play championship defense. They are not playing championship defense right now. So while I am very optimistic about this team this year, this is, this should, once they get healthy again, but this should be one of those years where it's like this is as good a Nick team as we've seen a long time when it comes to offense and the way they're scoring. But this year is going to be measured on can they get to the finals, can they play for a championship? And I'm watching them and I'm saying that, you know, they're still missing some things. I'm looking at other teams that are way more complete. We know the Thunder are complete. I need to know that they have all the pieces that you need. And I don't know if they have another ball handler off the bench that you can trust with the ball in their hands late in the game. And if Brunson's not available, I don't know if they have that. They might need to go get that because they thought it was going to be Malcolm Brogdon. He's not there. Then when Yabushelli was signed, everybody was excited about his addition because he's kind of an energy guy, he's a good guy off the bench, he's physical guy, he can shoot a three. But man, when he's out there, he looks kind of short. And I don't think that they have enough length at times. You need more size. So if, if I had my wish before the February trade deadline or when they get, when you get to the point of the season when some guys get veterans, get bought out, and then they can sign with another team. I need to find one of those. I need to find a bouncy big man off the bench who's got, you know, again, seven foot, seven footer with a big wingspan. Like I need that. And then I need a veteran ball hand or somebody who's steady, who can handle the basketball under pressure, who can make good decisions. Everybody wants these guys. But when you're the Knicks, these feel like final pieces to the puzzle type moves that gonna have to be done before the end of the season. I feel like if you really want to close the deal, but that's, that's what I see. Otherwise, it's a fun offense. Friday night was a fun game. They've got guys who can contribute on a given night and the same guy might have a bad night the next night. Like we saw Shemon, that's okay. Some games you just need one guy that's going to step up and give you a game when you're, when you don't have a full lineup. But this is, this is a road trip that I told you about that started in Miami. That's a tough team. Goes to Dallas, team That's really struggling. They just fired their gm. Everybody's hurt. No Kyrie, no ad. Then it goes to Orlando, a team that came into the Garden and they beat the crap out of you physically. And they're a physical, nasty team, but they do struggle as well. They had a good game on a. It was a second game back to back for the Knicks, but they had a good game. You got to be ready to play them. You're going to have two days off in Orlando to prepare for that game. It's a Saturday afternoon, five o' clock start. And then you go to Brooklyn and Brooklyn's not trying to win. And then you play the last road game the night before Thanksgiving against Charlotte. And Charlotte's, you know, like again, they don't have a good record, but they're a pain in the ass team. And at the end of a road trip right before Thanksgiving, you might want to make sure you're locked in. How long do you go without Jalen Brunson? He's in a day to day situation. He's somebody that you got lucky that it's grade one ankle sprain and that they're going to evaluate him. They said daily he was on the court warming up, taking shots, really not really putting a hard warmup in on the court in Miami. That's a good sign. Now, he wasn't running around, he wasn't doing a lot of things. He was being very careful, very static with his movements. But that's better than a walking boot or not even on the road trip. Right. So generally a grade one takes about a week to two weeks to get a full recovery. Now he's also a little different. You know, he's got that Vulcan blood. So he could be sooner, but I don't know. So a week is tomorrow's game. Would he be back for tomorrow's game ever? It's Dallas. It's where he started his career. Might be mean something to him personally, but if you're being smart and don't want to rush it and want to be sure you can get a whole like week and a half in full 10 days if you wait till Saturday and you play the team where you got hurt again. So scene of the crime, Orlando Magic Eastern Conference game. That's a little more important. So I'm curious to see what day it might be. But I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see him until next week either because it's a different regime now. He'll want to play as soon as he can, but they might Say, listen, it's November. That's the same ankle you heard at the end of last season. Let's not get to 80%. 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Ryan Reynolds
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Alan Hahn
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Caller (Rob/Didier/Ron)
How you doing? Alan Didier from Fort Lee, first time caller. So I honestly, I think the Knicks, I'm a big fan. I think they would be more complete. I don't know what you think about that. We were somehow able to trade Brunson and maybe like Miles Bridges for Giannis and like a bunch of draft picks. I just feel like when I watch that Orlando game, teams are more physical than us. As you can see. They're going to put big guards or big forwards on Brunson and I don't know, I feel like the team, there's less pressure on the team when Brunson isn't on the court. I know he controls the game, manages it well, but I feel like in today's NBA, I don't know, a stretch wing like Giannis I feel like would make more of an impact. If we could somehow keep OG and Bridges and I mean, somehow, obviously I'm being a little selfish keeping Cat, but if we could get rid of Brunson and some guys and some picks for Giannis, I think it would make a big splash. What are your thoughts now?
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Alan Hahn
A couple of things here to start with. Number one, you, you included Bridges in the trade that you, that you created and now you want to keep Bridges. So, you know, you gotta understand, like, first of all, I want you to know there's zero chance. This is a straight up one team to one team trade if it ever went down. It's too complicated to make that kind of a trade with just straight up one player for one player, right? So you're going to need other teams and picks and everybody helping out. And it's very, it feels like an off season trade if it ever came to fruition. We all know it's what Giannis wants. So now it's a matter of how do you, how do you make it happen when you're ready to make it happen if, if you want to make it happen. But another thing I can, I can tell you is Jalen Brunson will not be part of that trade, nor should he be. Jalen Brunson is the best player your franchise has had in 25 years. He has done more than anyone, including Carmelo Anthony in a nick uniform since Patrick Ewing. And so you have to understand that what you'd be trying to do, and I think what Giannis would want is to have a guy like Brunson to play with, because that's what Dame Lillard was supposed to be for him. What you don't want to do is take away somebody like him and who's your point guard now, because that's what Milwaukee is. What you just did with that trade, this, that. That trade idea is you created the Milwaukee Bucks in New York. It's not what you want to quote a man. You want to have to all NBA players, if you possibly could, on the team together and then build properly around them. You need shooting, because Giannis obviously doesn't do that. You need spacing for both these guys, because Giannis is a guy that's going to want to be in the paint and drive, and he's going to want to push the pace and all that stuff. Well, Brunson goes into the paint as well, so you'd need a stretch. Five Towns would have to be part of a deal like that just for the money alone. So it's. That's why I told you that type of trade, that's extremely difficult to do, especially in season. But you're not going to accomplish that with just team A and Team B only talking to each other and nothing else going down. The Luca trade, which was two teams, that was a dramatic, rare occasion, dramatic and rare that that could go the way it went. And as we know, how it ended was the GM who made the trade is no longer in employment in Dallas. So you've got to be real careful with moves like this. I don't think you're going to see anything like that. And I think this gets quiet for a while, but if the Knicks don't have a run this year in them, that gets them to the NBA Finals, never. Never mind win the championship. If they don't get to the Finals, then I think it gets louder again in June and July, and then you start to figure out, how do you get it done, how do you do it? But I think they want to see if this team can do it. And they still, I believe, might need a smaller piece or two when it comes to this team. I think this is one of the most complete teams they've had in a long time. That offense is insane. So you worried about one game against Orlando last week. Did you forget they won the other six in the homestand? Like that was a bad game against Orlando. Everybody recognizes that. It was the second game of a. Of a home and home. I mean a back to back. They did not have energy that night. They were bad that night. They all admitted it. But I'm not ready to start, you know, pulling the plug. But please don't anybody come to me with a trade idea that includes Jalen Brunson. Please don't. That guy is going to retire a nick. He should anyway.
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Alan Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I didn't listen to anything you just said. Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. All right, last caller crew, 800-919-3776. Get him in while you can. The Knicks injury report was just released and we do have an update that you will definitely want to hear. So they play tomorrow night in Dallas. We were just talking about this and it just came out, this injury report just a few minutes ago. So OG Anunoby's still out. Obviously he's going to be out at least two weeks before he's even evaluated. So with the hamstring strain, but on the list, Jalen Brunson, questionable. So not out, but questionable. So that's technically an upgrade. So you're saying there's a chance. That's what I'm saying. There's a chance. So we'll see. Again, Dallas is where he started his NBA career at his personal form. But, but that's, that's, Sorry, that's not, that's not nothing. Upgraded to questionable for tomorrow. We'll keep an eye on that. No Anthony Davis, by the way. For them, no Kyrie Irving as well. So they're still missing like two critical pieces there. We continue with your calls, of course. 800 now. 193776. Let's go to Robin, Brooklyn. What's up, Rob?
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Caller (Rob/Didier/Ron)
Hey, Alan, how's it going?
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Alan Hahn
Good.
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Caller (Rob/Didier/Ron)
Pleasure talking to you. I just want to say I'm a huge fan of yours. I've been listening to you every day on my work break and glad that you're finally joining the crew at night and talking with you and listening to you with Don and Peter. I'm just calling because I can't believe we just had someone call talking about wanting to trade Jalen Brunson.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah, I. Stay calm, Rob. I didn't detonate like I have in the past because I've been told that sometimes I talk down to callers. So I need to, like, dial it back a little bit and let people get it out. But the minute you mentioned trade Jalen Brunson for anything. Yeah, I, yeah, I'm going to lose it.
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Caller (Rob/Didier/Ron)
Yeah, I know. It's like we finally have something good going after, what, decades of misery and you think another superstar is going to want to sign in New York with the Knicks if we happen to trade Brunson after he gave us the great deal that he did, signing that contract. I think a lot of times people, they just don't understand how the NBA contracts work and the salary cap. It's like they think in terms of like baseball where, you know, you just take this one player and trade them for another player. There's no salary cap. You know, everything works perfectly fine. Right now we're up against it with the cap. And I'm just looking at players who are, you know, going to cost us basically nothing to try and fill a roster spot or, you know, be a role player on the team. There's one guy that, you know, I keep looking at as I'm questioning like, why is he always, why is he still available? Why is he not signed by a team? Why is he not picked up? He's a guy who's a true seven footer, has the wingspan, can play the center position, was drafted.
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Alan Hahn
Who you talking about again? Remind me who you're talking about again.
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Caller (Rob/Didier/Ron)
Well, I'm talking about a guy from Harlem, New York, Mo, Bamba, Mobile. I feel like, I feel like there's not a whole lot of seven footers that grow on trees that can actually spread the floor and shoot it from three. I feel like he would be a perfect role player on this team.
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Alan Hahn
They had, I think they had him in Westchester. They had him in Westchester, I'm not mistaken, last, last year for a bit. And then he got picked up by a team. You got to keep in mind too, like a lot of guys like this get signed because you have your roster. Right. So you don't, you're not going to cut anybody right now. But when you get into, you know, the other side of the holidays, that's when you start making like you can sign guys to 10 days and 10 day, 10 day contracts that, that stuff. So then you start to. And then there's also in January where some guys who aren't on fully guaranteed deals, you have to guarantee them by a certain date. So that's when you might start seeing some roster movement. Now if they had an injury to a player for the season and now it opens up a roster spot, then maybe they look at and say, okay, let's do this. So I don't think you see a move like that until that time of year. Right, right. And I mean, look, there's 30 teams, 30 teams have decided that they don't think that he's right now an NBA player.
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Caller (Rob/Didier/Ron)
I understand. Yeah. I mean he's had his chances and running the league and stuff. Like that.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah.
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Caller (Rob/Didier/Ron)
I just feel like, you know, the one thing that we're missing is like a true center that can actually give us something offensively, like contribute offensively off the bench. I just feel like he would be. I feel like he's like a bit of a diamond in the rough. Like it would. Would just like fit the role perfectly off the bench for our team. Yeah. You know, being able to get some run and it'd be great.
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Alan Hahn
I have. I have heard he's got attitude issues at times. I've heard that. I think Orlando had him. They let him go.
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Caller (Rob/Didier/Ron)
Yeah.
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Alan Hahn
So those are things, you know.
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Caller (Rob/Didier/Ron)
Another guy, you know, who's like, maybe could be like a Chet Holmgren light who was not going to cost a lot of money. What about Bobo?
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Alan Hahn
I knew that I was. You know what, Rob? I was waiting for the Bol bowl because that's is Bart Scott's first. First option.
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Caller (Rob/Didier/Ron)
Exactly.
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Alan Hahn
I. Like I said that's an area. Thanks, Rob, for the call. That's an area. For me personally, I would keep an eye on Ariel Hook. Porty is a nice young player. They want to see if they can develop him. He has not seen any. Any burn at all. And Yelli, who they. They brought in just. I don't know. Number one, is he in the best shape? Number two, is he tall enough? Like, they really at times can look small? And look at Golden State. Golden State doesn't have any size. And that's a. They got a lot of talent, but they do deal with the size issue that hurts them. So I just. Those are areas of concern for me. Real quick here. One more. Ron in orange. Go ahead, Ron.
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Caller (Rob/Didier/Ron)
Hey, how you doing?
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Alan Hahn
What's up?
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Caller (Rob/Didier/Ron)
Yeah, listen, I just want to get your input on it because I know you're very good with your insight with the Knicks. My beef with Brown is that he just doesn't use that bench enough. We just talked about her party. That guy needs to be out there more.
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Alan Hahn
Ron. For who, though? You see, he actually is playing the bench a ton now.
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Caller (Rob/Didier/Ron)
These guys don't get in, Alan.
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Alan Hahn
They don't get in. Well, who doesn't?
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Caller (Rob/Didier/Ron)
He puts him in with two minutes left in the game in his garbage tank. Can you give him five minutes? No.
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Alan Hahn
You? No, because if you take. Because if you give him five, you're taking five from someone else.
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Caller (Rob/Didier/Ron)
You don't have to have every game like that, but every now and then, could he get five minutes?
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Alan Hahn
Well, I. I get what you're saying. I get part of the team.
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Caller (Rob/Didier/Ron)
I understand he's collecting splinters on the bench.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah, I understand what you're saying. What you're saying. Can we see a little bit? Yeah. No, no, no. Can I talk now? Yeah. I think there are games where there'd be a good situation to put him in, but Mike Brown has finally figured out the rotation with some of these new guys. He's got him in a good rhythm. I just think, you know, we're 13 games in, so that's where we're at right now. Wow. That's what it's like this time. I forgot. I forgot what it's like this time. Well, didn't even get the seven for that. We're all back together tomorrow. Thanks for watching, everybody. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just to know it's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.
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