Hour 4: Hockey Hour

Summary

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Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 4: Hockey Hour (October 10, 2025)

Theme Overview
This episode, titled “Hockey Hour,” finds hosts Alan Hahn and Don La Greca diving deep into a whirlwind night for Philly sports, baseball playoff heartbreak, the evolving NHL season for local New York teams, and fresh college football scouting optimism amid NFL draft anxieties. With Peter Rosenberg away, the focus stays on Alan and Don’s dynamic, sporting their usual blend of sharp analysis, banter, and New York sports humor.

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1. A Brutal Night for Philly Sports (00:43 – 05:54)

Phillies Elimination & the Kirkering Blunder

• Alan kicks off by painting the heartbreak for Philly fans after both the Phillies and Eagles lost, zeroing in on rookie reliever Orion Kerkering’s error in the MLB playoffs:
  • “Kerkering bobbles the comebacker but has time to get the runner at first to end the inning... inexplicably throws home... Dodgers win, advance.” (00:43)
  • Alan empathizes: “He obviously just, he just had one of those moments and it just, it’s killer and you feel terrible for him.” (01:14)
• Don is blunt: “Yeah, I don’t feel sorry for him. We’ve been through enough of this.” (01:53)

New York’s Own Misery & Fan Resilience

• The hosts revisit New York’s own string of tough losses, including a recent “bad Monday” where every local team lost, underscoring the shared pain of sports heartbreak.
  • Don: “Nobody was apologizing here. Nobody.” (03:06)
• They contrast the culture of Philly and New York fans, crediting Philly for not giving soft landings but highlighting sports’ unpredictable cruelty.

Phillies’ Future & Mets Opportunism

• Alan speculates on upcoming Phillies changes amid looming free agency (Schwarber, managerial shakeups), with Don quickly asking if the Mets should “cherry-pick” talent:
  • “If I’m the Mets... you going to just be a buzzard... see what can I get?” (04:29)
  • Alan: “Why not? You already have the second highest payroll in baseball.” (04:57)

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2. Baseball Playoffs Without a Horse in the Race (05:07 – 08:04)

Checking Out or Staying Tuned?

• Alan asks Don if his Yankee fandom has dampened his playoff interest:
  • Don says it’s “still raw,” hard to watch, and “I can’t even, honestly, I can’t watch tonight.” (06:06)
• Alan suggests rooting interests—maybe Toronto. The consensus: not much emotion for non-local teams and growing focus on hockey and football.

Quote:
Don: “Because at bats take forever. You can watch one pitch, go out and come back and still see the next pitch.” (07:57)

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3. NHL Talk: Early Season Takeaways (10:49 – 17:36)

Rangers: Responding Well

• Alan highlights the Rangers’ 4-0 win over Buffalo following a shutout loss:
  • “They respond by showing you something.” (10:50)
  • “Shesterkin made what, 33 saves and they get the win.” (12:49)

Devils: Tough Matchups, Notable Debuts

• Devils’ opener: Despite the 6-3 score, Alan notes “it was a three game with less than four minutes to play... Carolina’s got their number.” (11:39)
  • Positives: Blue line production (Hamilton and impressive rookie Luke Hughes referenced by “Jack got his first point, then Luke got his first point.”)
• Upcoming challenge: Next up, Tampa Bay, a “really good team” with an elite goalie; can the Devils bounce back?

Islanders: Familiar Frustrations, Rising Hope

• Don, self-described as “not high expectations,” outlines the “same old, same old” issues—offensively challenged, especially with Druin’s suspension:
  • “Offensively, they just always seem to struggle.” (13:21)
• Rookie Schaefer Excitement: Don is excited about seeing prospect Schaefer’s growth, comparing him to legendary defenseman Denis Potvin:
  • “There’s just something, like when you watch him, he looks very, very comfortable within the flow of a pro game for a kid... 19.” (14:14)
  • Alan: “This is the beginnings of this franchise’s next Denis Potvin.” (15:12)

Blue Line Gold Standard

• Alan and Don reinforce the importance of offense from defensemen:
  • “If you’re able to get points out of your blue line... that’s when you know you’re good.” (15:46)
  • “That’s the name every Islander fan is hoping he becomes—best defenseman in the history of the franchise.” (16:09)

Anticipation for Don’s Devils Call

• Alan: “We should be all tuned in... hear Don and his first regular season game with his team.” (10:55)
• Don appreciates the milestone: “At some point you’re going to be like, hey, this is my 500th game. Where’d the time go?” (17:02)

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4. College Football: Scouting for New Quarterbacks (19:38 – 24:48)

The Search for Quarterback Hope

• Don reminisces about previous “lost” Jets seasons devoted to scouting college QBs:
  • “In football season of 2017 the Jets were so bad... I started getting myself focused on college football... That’s how I came across Josh Allen watching Wyoming football.” (19:38)
• The hosts riff on current draft prospects—Oregon’s Dante Moore, Indiana’s Mendoza, waning interest in Nussmeier and Sellers.

The Inexact Science of QB Evaluation

• Alan notes: “It doesn’t seem like the scouts in the NFL put a lot of stock in the actual college game... They make jumps during pro days, combos.” (22:18)
• They discuss the unpredictable nature of the draft, referencing Mahomes, Russell Wilson, and late-breaking risers like Dart.

Quote:
Alan: “As long as Patrick Mahomes was taken 10th overall, as long as Russell Wilson was taken in the, you know, the third round, that it’s a complete inexact science, at least from our perspective.” (23:38)

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5. Jets & Giants: The Never-ending Search for Stability (24:48 – 26:06)

The Franchise Quarterback Quest

• Conversation turns to the Jets’ likely need for a new QB—do you take the best available even in a weak class? “A lot of times you gotta—you're a quarterback needy franchise... you gotta get one of them and you gotta pick the right one.” (24:40)

• Alan cautions on the organizational ecosystem: “Just hope you have the structure in place to develop that quarterback.” (24:40)

Hope for New York Fans

• Alan: “All this conversation about—well, what if they go 0-17, are they gonna blow it up... you hope the coaches are just waiting to pop.” (24:48)
• He’s upbeat about the Giants: “Now all of a sudden, the Giants look functionable. You know, it’s very fluid. But I’m just glad that the Giants came off a win and we got a big weekend.” (25:10–25:22)

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6. Closing Sentiments & Upcoming Highlights (25:40–26:06)

• Alan and Don encourage fans to support Don’s Devils game call on MSG, and promise to break it all down next week.
  • Alan: “Everybody watch Don. Everybody tune in to the Devils and hear Don, hear his first goal call.” (25:40)
• A nod to the team’s “fresh start” and anticipation for a fun New York sports winter.

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Notable Quotes

• Alan (on Phillies heartbreak): “You just react. You in the minute, again... you know instantly that you made a bad decision... it just ended the season because I had a brain fart at the absolute worst time.” (03:20)
• Don (on Islanders’ Schaefer): “There’s just an, I hate to say aura, but there’s just something... when you watch him, he looks very, very comfortable within the flow of a pro game for a kid that just, by the way, 19.” (14:14)
• Alan (on blue line production): “If you’re able to get points out of your blue line... that’s when you know you’re good.” (15:46)
• Alan (on the QB draft process): “It doesn’t seem like the scouts in the NFL put a lot of stock in the actual college game... They make jumps during pro days, combos.” (22:18)
• Don (on sports heartbreak): “It’s hard right now because it’s raw. Like you feel like your team should be there and they’re not, and it just annoys you. So I need a minute.” (06:32)

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Episode Flow – Key Timestamps

• 00:43 – 05:54: Philly sports misery, Phillies’ wild finish, and possible Mets opportunism
• 05:07 – 08:04: Playoff apathy without local teams, shifting focus to hockey
• 10:49 – 17:36: NHL deep dive—Rangers’ bounce-back, Devils’ challenges, Islanders’ rookie hope (Schaefer)
• 19:38 – 24:48: College QBs, NFL draft speculation, and the perennial Jets quarterback search
• 24:48 – 26:06: Giants excitement, franchise-building, and previewing Don’s first Devils broadcast

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Final Notes

This “Hockey Hour” features trademark New York sports banter, emotional catharsis about playoff defeats, emerging NHL storylines, and the eternal optimism (and skepticism) attached to scouting the next great quarterback. Don’s big moment with the Devils’ season opener is a recurring highlight, setting up a hopeful, if anxious, winter for fans.

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Transcript

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[Alan]

So we touched on a little bit, Alan, earlier in the show about what a terrible night it was for Philly sports, considering how the Eagles lost. But you know, more importantly, the Phillies are eliminated in just heartbreaking fashion. Kirkering bobbles the comebacker but has time to get the runner at first to end the inning. Two out spaces loaded to send it to the 12th inning of a tie game and inexplicably throws home. No chance to get the runner. Dodgers win, advance to wait the winner of the brewers and the Cubs, who have a game five coming up on Saturday. And I mentioned, I was on the K show earlier because we had Andrew on and he said that the fans have actually been pretty good. You know, Philly's not known for giving athletes who screw up a soft landing. But how do you not feel for him? I know it was an awful play not dropping the comebacker, but the decision to go home, he obviously just, he just had one of those moments and it just, it's killer and you feel terrible for him. But what a way to lose a game. And then the Eagles lose the way they lose and tough, tough day for Philly sports.

[Don]

Yeah, I don't feel sorry for him. We've been through enough of this.

[Alan]

I felt bad for Andrew though. I love Andrew.

[Don]

Well, it's funny because again, I know your feelings about Kevin Nagandi, but he's a good friend of mine and he's a big Philly fan and we were texting during game two, back and forth. He was at the game so I didn't, there was no way I was going to text him last night. Like, see, like seeing the Giants winning was one thing, but seeing how that game ended was just heartbreaking. So yeah, it definitely was a tough night. But I don't know like, like I, I. When it comes to Philly, like I don't. I have zero compassion. Zero. What do you think they got tough night in New York. Like last week when we had. What was it? What was last week? It was. Just didn't. What was the day, Anthony? What was the day last week that all like, it was like four teams, everybody lost. Was it Sunday?

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Don]

When we came out, the Yankees got smoked.

[Anthony]

It was a bad Monday.

[Alan]

Yeah, it was this past Monday because we opened the show with The Blue Jays up 20 and the jets and the Giants both lost.

[Don]

Yeah. Okay. Nobody was, nobody was apologizing here. Nobody.

[Alan]

Again, I'm not apologizing for it. And listen, the Eagles just coming off a Super bowl, so.

[Don]

Exactly.

[Alan]

You know, no big deal. I mean but, but it was the.

[Don]

Way that's to have that end there. And for Kirkering that's just, it's a killer because you, you just, you react. You in the minute again. I don't know, Don, if you've ever had that kind of a moment in a real game where the minute you let it go, you just know. And it's the most horrible feeling that you know instantly that you made a bad decision. Yeah, like a fatal, fatal decision because that's different. It's one thing to make a mistake in the middle of a game and it's embarrassing mistake, but it's another thing to know that this just ended the season because I had a brain fart at the absolute worst time. And you see like, you see like real muto is pointing to. He's not even trying to catch the ball. He's like, no, just go to first. Man. This is. Panic's over.

[Alan]

He just panicked.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Alan]

And, and listen, it would be different if it would have been a close play at first. He would have been out. And they go to the 12th. Now maybe they lose the game in the 12th. But talking to Andrew, he believed that Philly had a chance to go to the World Series and they might blow that up now because there's a bunch of free agents on the team.

[Don]

Yep.

[Alan]

Schwarber, Thompson may get fired.

[Don]

So I think the only guy that. I'm sorry, the only guy they're stuck with, I believe is Turner. I think there's a lot of options to consider. Real muto, obviously. Does Harper have an option? There's something with Harper. I thought so. You know, look, first of all, if I'm the Mets, he cherry picking. Right. Are you, are you, are you going to like just be a buzzer there and just fly around and just see what, what can I get?

[Alan]

Why not? You already have the second highest payroll in baseball.

[Don]

What's the, like, you know what I mean? If they're trying to move some money, if they're moving, like, why not?

[Alan]

But it was just. You feel for him. Tough play.

[Don]

Yep.

[Alan]

And so the. Because you never know. Like, the game's in la. Right. But if they win that game, that's two straight wins in la, then they go back to Philly for game five. Yeah. So the door would have been open for them to maybe. And listen, I know the Dodgers are good, real good. They've only lost once so far in these playoffs. But they do not have a good bullpen. But they're using some starters like they did last year, kind of mix and match in the bullpen. I think that'd be a heck of a series coming up either against the Cubs or the brewers, because give the Cubs credit, they got off the mat. I thought the brewers are gonna smoke and win in those first two games in Milwaukee. The brewers didn't. Cubs held serve in Chicago, and now they go back to Milwaukee on Saturday. And you got a good game tonight. That's going to be on our air on 880 at 7:30.

[Don]

Look at you.

[Alan]

When the Tigers play the Mariners in Seattle.

[Don]

Look at you. Good job. It's good seg.

[Alan]

So. But I just want, I can say. But as a Yankee fan, Allan is like, are the playoffs done for you?

[Don]

Are you good? I'm out. Yeah. No, I get that it's a rumor. I mean, I, I again, do I, I do the right thing and, you know, I'll watch, I'll watch highlights just to make sure I'm up on what's happening. That's why I was, you know, again, I saw that play. I was, was busy last night with, with a game, you know, the Knicks in the preseason. And that's going to start, you know, affecting my attention more than anything else. But I, you know, I'll keep an eye on it. But right now, like, for me, it's still raw. So when you're asking me, am I watching, you know, I can't even, Honestly, I can't watch tonight. I can't watch Tigers, Mariners, I can't watch that. I certainly won't be able to watch the alcs. I have a hard time watching that. If it gets to a six or seven and it gets a little more epic, maybe, maybe I'll, I'll check in. But it's, it's hard right now because it's Raw. Like you feel like your team should be there and they're not, and it just annoys you. So I need a minute.

[Alan]

Well, like I said, if you're looking for a rooting interest. If I were a Yankee fan, I'd be rooting for the Blue Jays because I think it would hurt more if the Blue Jays went quietly against either Detroit or Seattle.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Alan]

In the next round. But not having a dog in the fight. It's been a long time for the Blue Jays. They've been, you know, they've been going after it for a while. Haven't won since the Joe Carter home run in 93. Brewers have never won. So, you know, I got no love for the Dodgers. I don't have any feelings at all for. For Detroit. So, I mean, right now it's just the case. Like I said, I'm not gonna be watching every pitch because there's gonna be hockey going on. And football. Like last night, it was. It was tough with all the things that were going on with the. With the locals playing in the NHL and he had the football on that. But baseball's the one thing you can kind of check in on and still feel like you're engaged.

[Don]

Yeah. Because at bats take forever. You.

[Alan]

You can.

[Don]

You can watch one pitch, go out and come back and still see the next pitch.

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So all right Dom, you did say it and I am curious. So the Rangers get a 4 nothing win in Buffalo. So they turn a shutout loss in the opener to a shutout win up in Buffalo. So they, they respond by by showing you something. But you know you are calling the Devils tomorrow 7:00 MSG. We should be all tuned in to hear Don and his first regular season game with his team. It'll be exciting. But what, what did you see out of the Devils in what what probably was a pretty entertaining game against a team. Like you said, the Carol, they, they, they do struggle against them.

[Alan]

They do.

[Don]

Gracie sending me updates throughout my game telling me what's going on about how Jack got his first point, then Luke got his first point. She Said that Mark. She told me that Markstrom played great.

[Alan]

She said, I think he want. I think he'd want the Jarvis goal back. That ended up being the game winner. But there were some breakdowns there defensively because you look at a final score, six three. Oh, they got killed. Well, that was a three game with like less than four minutes to play. Jarvis scored and then they got a goal and then an empty netter to make it 6:3. You like the fact that they're blue line, Hamilton with a goal, Luke Hughes, you know, two assists. But Carolina's got their number and you know, another team that's got their numbers, Tampa. We were talking to Sheldon Keefe before we left about Tampa has been a bad matchup form. So you start the season against two teams that kind of had your number and you want to set the tone, right? Like Pittsburgh's two zero. I don't think that's going to mean very much because I don't think they're a very good team. But they're two and. Oh, right, right. As Dave Maloney used to say, points don't go bad. So you get the points where you can. You don't want to get up to a slow start. So we'll see if the Devils can bounce back against the Tampa team that still, you know, has Kucherov, still has Hedman, that still has point. They're a really good team. Still has Vasilevsky, who's probably the best goaltender in the National Hockey League, maybe next to Bobrovsky. So that's a challenge. Rangers. You brought up the Rangers like that's. Listen, they won the game, right? But that was one nothing for too long, right? Against the Buffalo Sabre team. Like no one played. Greenway didn't play. Benson didn't play, play Power didn't play. But they did what they had to do, right? And Shusturkin made what, 33 saves and they get the win. They got a couple of games coming up this weekend. And the Islanders. Allen, it's the same old, same old, right?

[Don]

Yes, it is.

[Alan]

You know, you scored four goals, which is great, but you know, again, third period and the other team always seems to get the goal when they need it against them, and that's not what you want.

[Don]

And Druin, Druin's been suspended for the cross.

[Alan]

Yes.

[Don]

And so. And he gets like, that's a part of the offense for you that, you know, they just, for whatever reason offensively, they just always seem to struggle. And so you lose a guy that's supposed to help you there. But I always like to focus on the positives because, again, I've already told you, going into the season, I don't have high expectations on this team. I think they're going to be one of those hovering around, you know, trying to fight their way up into the last playoff spot. I just don't know if there's enough there to make them a playoff team. Unless, of course, some guys just reach back into the. You know, into the hot tub time machine and pull out like the way they used to play. But they're all older. But the kid, Schaefer, man, he. He looks like it. You know, like, you've heard what they say about him, but when you watch him, and I got to watch some of it, just. Just watch him live action. And I. I'm big on, though. How does it look that he. He does. He moves right. Like, he's. He's fast, he's rangy. He's got unbelievable hands. I mean, how about.

[Alan]

Was he. Was he playing with Mayfield on the. On the third pairing?

[Don]

Yes. And. And the thing what I loved with him is it's like the first opportunity for him to make a play. He makes a play and they get. He gets his assist right away. He didn't have to wait. He just right away gets the first assessment. It was a great shot by Drone, but it's how he. How he. How he relocated. He caught the pass, which was not an easy path, and he made it look so simple, like he's playing the cross, and he just. He just caught it, controlled it, and made the right play. There's just an, I hate to say aura, but there's just something like when you watch him, he looks very, very comfortable within the flow of a pro game for a kid that just, by the way, 19, they've got something there which will be fun to watch grow, and they've got to continue to try to build around him. They have some good young talent, but it's going to take time. But that's. I'm watching him this year. That's. For me on the island, that's what I'm about. I want to see the. This is the beginnings of this franchise's next Dennis Bodvin, because like you said.

[Alan]

The one negative about the Islanders is it kind of looks like the same old, same old. That's going to change with him. Right? So. And that. And to have that on the blue line is so special. You go back to those devil teams with. With Neda Meyer scoring, how big Colorado is with McCarr, what he produces on the blue line. That, that's what this, that's what this sport's about. Now you got to be, got to be able to supply some. You got your stay at home guys but if you're able to get points out of your blue line. Fox a couple of years ago, when he won the cons, when he won the honoris getting point when the Rangers were always good, when I did the post game and talking about how the Rangers would always be in the top five points from defenseman, like that's when you know you're good. You know you're going to get what you're going to get from your, from your top six forwards but you're able to get that kind of production from your blue line that's going to be special. And if he turns out to be. You just said the name, right? That's the name that every Islander fans hoping he becomes best defenseman in the history of the franchise going to be. That's going to be hard to do.

[Don]

Yeah, that's the standard but. But it's there and you know, you expect him to be that guy that becomes the all special teams kind of player where it's power play, where it's. He's also important on pk, you know where he is driving the points from the blue line which is where this game is now. I'm looking forward to that. They obviously have the goalie and that's also helpful too. But he's not getting any younger. Some of that young talent has definitely got a gotta age well there but you know, so that's why I have them third. But I am excited for you, Donnie. I know we got one more segment but I am excited for you in this call tomorrow. Not because it's new, because you've called enough games to do this, but because it's also for me it's the start for you. This is, you know, game one and at some point you're going to be like, hey, this is my 500th game. Where'd the time go? You know, like it's. That's what I'm excited about is the beginning.

[Alan]

Well, the grind starts for me tomorrow. It starts for you very soon with the Knicks and there's a lot of hype around them. So listen, we close the book on the Yankees. We hope that the Giants can give us something here for the next couple of months. But I think the one team that everybody's excited about what the Knicks can do this season, certainly a ton of expectations upon them. We'll see if they can live up to it. And we'll see what the hockey teams can do. So it could be a pretty fun winter here.

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Yep.

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Oh, good, man. Cool.

[Don]

So in 27, in this, the football season of 2017, the jets were bad. So bad that I just, again, I just decided, I'm not watching. I can't watch. And I knew, okay, they're gonna have a high draft picked on. And I said, and I was doing shows at night so I'd be on after you guys a lot. And Anthony was working with me back then and he remembers this. And I said, I started getting myself focused on college football. So I was watching like, remember, remember Anthony, remember The. Those Mac Wednesdays. Oh, yeah.

[Alan]

So you can feel good. Cause you're a damn football team.

[Don]

So I have like, you know, the Great Eastern Michigan vs Toledo games and stuff. Like. Like I'm watching that. We're just, we're looking for quarterbacks. And that's how I came across Josh. Josh Allen watching Wyoming football. I swear to God, I did. Ask again. Ask Anthony.

[Anthony]

Saturday nights, he was in on that, watching that Wyoming, North Texas games.

[Don]

Man, those were good. My wife would wake up going, what the hell are you watching? It's like, you know, 11:30 at night, it's ESPN the Ocho. And I'm like, this is Wyoming. This kid. Josh Allen's good. Lamar Jackson at. At Louisville, all of it. And obviously Sam, usc, Rosen, I had him on all of it. And Baker and I don't know if I can't do it this year, like tonight. Anthony, what do we got tonight on the menu?

[Anthony]

Well, we have Rutgers.

[Don]

Yes, we know about the Rutger.

[Anthony]

We do have Rutgers.

[Don]

But. But if I'm looking for a quarterback who's going to be in the draft this coming year, what am I watching tonight?

[Anthony]

Well, I don't know if you're going to be on it tonight, but the two darlings that have now cropped up are in Indiana and Oregon. So you've got more from Oregon, Dante Moore, and you've got Mendoza from Indiana. And those are the two now.

[Don]

Mendo what it Fernando Mendoza with Arch.

[Anthony]

Manning, with Texas, not even ranked anymore, by the way.

[Don]

I mean, those is big man. Six, five, like 22302, 20, whatever. Like a big kid.

[Anthony]

And they're souring on Nussmeier a little bit. No, not souring, but he's not the.

[Don]

Surefire Sellers is Lenore Sellers. Did he fall off completely?

[Anthony]

He's fallen off a little bit, too. He hasn't had the greatest last couple of weeks.

[Don]

This is where we are, Don. And people are going to tell me, Carson Beck.

[Alan]

No, well, listen, he transferred and it ended up being the right move for him.

[Don]

Guy's 30 years old. Like Van Wilder. He's been in college forever.

[Alan]

Here's the problem is that it doesn't seem like the scouts in the NFL put a lot of stock in the actual college game. These guys make jumps during their pro days. They make jumps during the combos.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Alan]

It doesn't seem like they put a lot of stock in the stuff that we do. We watch these games because I saw Baker Mayfield completely jumped to number one because of his combine. Right. Daniel Jones, same thing. Maybe, maybe the Giants took a flyer at 6. It was a little bit later in the process because they got to go through their Wonderlic test and then they have their pro day and then they talk to all the coaches after.

[Don]

How about Dart? Dart wasn't on it. People weren't screaming about Dart all season. But no, the process came around. Suddenly Dart started moving up, moving up the ladder. It's another.

[Alan]

What we do as fans is we watch the games, right, and we see or we look at the, the YouTube highlights of what they do, but they look much deeper into that. So I don't know who's going to end up being the front runner. Everybody was in love with Arch Manning. Looks like they've fallen out of love with him. But the, the real, the real moves are going to be made once the season's over and by the time we get to the combine, it could be somebody. We're not even talking about that. Everybody's going to be jonesing for the jets to draft first overall if the jets do have that pick. So right now it doesn't look like it's a great crop. But you know, I, I've always said, Alan, that as long as Patrick Mahomes was taken 10th overall, as long as Russell Wilson was taken in the, you know, the third round, that it's a complete inexact science, at least from our perspective.

[Don]

And it's not like you say, well, what about other free agents and stuff like that, because, you know, get bringing in a veteran, you know, you've seen Sam Darnold, he strikes and he has a good year and then Seattle takes a chance on him and so far that looks good. I mean, the Daniel Jones thing, who saw that coming? No one saw that coming. But he's played really well there. So, you know, who's that next guy that if you're the jets, you could try to grab? Well, they thought it was Justin Fields, or at least they are thinking it might be Justin Fields, but that hasn't hit just yet. But if you're going to get a one or a two pick, a lot of times you got. You're a quarterback needy franchise, you gotta fight it doesn't matter if there's not. If there's only two good quarterbacks in this draft class, you gotta get one of them and you gotta pick the.

[Alan]

Right one and just hope that you have the structure in place to develop that quarterback. Right?

[Don]

Yeah, that'd be great.

[Alan]

Because all this conversation about Wall, what if they go Owen 17, are they gonna blow it up and Bring in another. I don't know what Woody Johnson's thinking. You hope that the coaches that they have are. That are in place, are just waiting to pop. So you got to get the right players. You gotta have the right coaches. Everything's got to be right. And as we've seen, sometimes you look like you're dysfunctional. And now all of a sudden, the Giants look functionable. You know, it's. It's very fluid. But I'm just glad that the Giants came off a win and we got a big weekend.

[Don]

Relax. Enjoy Sunday.

[Alan]

Yeah, and I. I will be in Columbus on Monday, so if you got the day off, still tune in, because we're going to be here. Peter's gonna be back from Perth, so the three of us will be breaking down everything that happened over the weekend. Enjoy it. I will be. I'm here in Tampa. I'll have the game tomorrow, so if you.

[Don]

Everybody watch Don. Everybody tune in to the Devils and hear Don hear his first goal call, hear him talk about, get his first win under his belt.

[Alan]

And there.

[Don]

I want all of our listeners to just support Don. It's Saturday night. Put the game on msg. Listen to your boy. It's going to be a lot of fun. I'll be watching. I got nothing else going on Saturday night.

[Alan]

And we'll try to break it down for you on Monday.

[Don]

Look at you being all calm.

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[Don]

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