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Alan Hahn
This is the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.
Don La Greca
That sounds like heaven to me.
Alan Hahn
Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.
Peter Rosenberg
It gets better every time.
Alan Hahn
I was gonna just say, like, they name me a better show. Intro beat. I'm waiting. There is no sir.
Don La Greca
Turn it on and try them. That wasn't bad. Michael K. Oh, don't do that.
Peter Rosenberg
Don't do that.
Don La Greca
No, I'm just giving you some example. Two iconic shows.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't know.
Alan Hahn
Nothing can get by them. Turn it on and try to go.
Don La Greca
Through the whole time of this.
Alan Hahn
Well, I'm just saying.
Don La Greca
Infringement.
Alan Hahn
Isn't that how the. Isn't that how it went? Nothing can get by him.
Don La Greca
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Turn it on and try them.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, that was the mic and the mad dog.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, that was it. And then doggy would open up the show. I used to do this sometimes for Rick. Cause Rick loved it. He'd do the like, ah, get after that, everybody like, oh, yeah. It was just the way he would open the show. There was just something exciting about it. And you guys hate it. So I can't do it on our show. I like the big open. You guys right away rolled up the newspaper and smacked me down until the puppy. Now I flinch now.
Don La Greca
Have you heard a joke that much of you?
Alan Hahn
Ah, he's the best.
Peter Rosenberg
What?
Alan Hahn
What did we do, Peter, you remember mocking my whole, you know, 3:00 in the greatest scene in the world?
Peter Rosenberg
I didn't. I don't know.
Alan Hahn
You did. You said it sounds very Midwestern radio.
Don La Greca
But I wasn't a negative. I don't think we were negative about it.
Peter Rosenberg
Let me.
Alan Hahn
It was negatory.
Peter Rosenberg
No, first of all, let me, let me. Let's show the whole thing. We were trying to come up and I still want to change the audio clips that we play at the beginning of the show when it goes Don Han. And so next week when I get back into things, I'll sit down with Anthony and try to find some. And Brown. Sure. And try to find some new clips.
Alan Hahn
Okay.
Peter Rosenberg
But at first we said, oh, what could Alan's thing be? And Don, the idea was maybe we could have him saying it's 3 o'clock and the greatest thing in the world.
Alan Hahn
It's 12 o'clock in the greatest city in the world.
Peter Rosenberg
And when he did it, when he recorded the ones that we did, they just, it all felt very forced. And so I said, no, let's not do it. I didn't say, I didn't diss it as a concept kind of. I just said it wouldn't have fit in what we were looking to do.
Alan Hahn
Kind of felt like it. Don't feel like it. Don did his. I actually stole it from Don because Don used to do the whole, you know, 5:00 in the big city and I love that. So I turned it into my own thing with the greatest scene in the world. I did that at the 7 o'clock show is when I first started doing that as a way to just kick, kickstart myself into the show. Little, you know, a little energy boost right at the top. So it became a thing. Bart loved it. That's the greatest city in the world.
Peter Rosenberg
Greatest city in the world, man.
Don La Greca
You sure?
Peter Rosenberg
Wait, was that a drop or was that actually.
Don La Greca
No, I don't know.
Alan Hahn
That was Jacob and Bart making a.
Don La Greca
Take it the way you want. I kind of feel like it's a con. If Bart likes it, that's like almost a reason not to do it.
Peter Rosenberg
Like, he's mocking you. Like it's, it's fake.
Don La Greca
It's. It felt like that.
Alan Hahn
You don't think, like, open up the show. Like. And that was again, a Mad Dog kind of thing. Just coming in with that whole thing. Good afternoon, everybody. How are you today? Like, there was just something great about that, right?
Peter Rosenberg
But that's because he, that's because dog.
Alan Hahn
He'D say it's Tuesday, you know, like, nobody ever says that, but he does. It's Tuesday.
Don La Greca
You be you. I'm not going to stop you from doing.
Alan Hahn
Too late now. I can't be me now because you got me flinching. That's it. That's it. I, I, this is what.
Peter Rosenberg
Please don't. Please just keep going. Power forward. Are you guys, Are you guys seeing that Chris Carlin is doing the new food thing?
Alan Hahn
What thing?
Peter Rosenberg
Look, look, this is on the.
Don La Greca
Is that why he was off today?
Peter Rosenberg
Our opening edition of Carlin's Corner Table.
Don La Greca
Takes us to Brooklyn to a legendary classic.
Alan Hahn
Why is he talking like Aaron Rodgers?
Peter Rosenberg
And we are starting a little on the bougie side with Peter Lugers. This past Saturday afforded me.
Alan Hahn
Okay, I'm good opportunity to dine at.
Peter Rosenberg
This ve shrine to the.
Alan Hahn
When he goes into, when he goes into character, it's really funny. I love Carlos but he does sound a little bit like Aaron Rodgers there, didn't he?
Peter Rosenberg
He did. He did have a little bit of a little bit of a little, little bit of Aaron Rodgers there. Yeah, I love Bobby. Yeah, I love Bobby.
Alan Hahn
Oh, he's. He's calling college basketball. That's why he's off espn. College basketball. It wasn't that he's moonlighting as a food critic.
Don La Greca
I didn't know.
Peter Rosenberg
No, I think he's doing that though as a little fun thing on social media.
Alan Hahn
Why not? His tick tocks are hilarious. You ever see him when he does the caller thing when he mocks like certain calls? Those are so good. UMBC Bryant tonight at 70. Who's missing that by the way? I'm listening to Carlin.
Peter Rosenberg
Wait, hold, wait. Yeah, wait, what game is he doing?
Alan Hahn
UMBC versus Brian.
Peter Rosenberg
When you said, you said umbc. You're talking about my Maryland.
Alan Hahn
Baltimore County.
Peter Rosenberg
Baltimore County.
Alan Hahn
Yes sir.
Peter Rosenberg
Yes, he's doing a UMBC game today.
Don La Greca
Very best.
Alan Hahn
We're confirming.
Peter Rosenberg
I mean he's, he, he's. That means Carlin is one notch away from nothing to do for Kenny Albert on a weekend he's going to call Ping pong tournament in Somerset County. Most people would probably not know that I could play the piano by ear.
Don La Greca
Good for him, man.
Alan Hahn
Nobody better than I have to say.
Don La Greca
That'S one of those where you gotta love basketball.
Peter Rosenberg
What channels that I'm watching. Which, which ESPN is that on?
Don La Greca
You.
Alan Hahn
You.
Peter Rosenberg
It's on the U.
Alan Hahn
The U world.
Don La Greca
The Ocho wasn't available by the way.
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Peter Rosenberg
I just texted him. I said, get some lidos tonight because lido's my pizza spot for Maryland. Yeah, you know what his response was?
Alan Hahn
I'm in. Bryant.
Peter Rosenberg
Hard pass.
Don La Greca
Here we go. Oh, we've had this before, I think.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, I know. He because. Because Chris will eat anything, but apparently not delicious Maryland pizza. Notice, but you knew the answer.
Alan Hahn
Angry for no reason. Hang on a second. Did you just say that's an oxymoron? Did he say delicious and Maryland pizza?
Don La Greca
Ooh.
Alan Hahn
Did you really do that?
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, because New York's the only place that knows how to make a good pizza.
Don La Greca
I mean, no one else could figure it out.
Peter Rosenberg
No Chicago, no Maryland. Only the. It's the water. All of a sudden, when you talk pizza, everyone becomes a water expert. It's all about the water.
Alan Hahn
First of all, pronounce it correctly. It's the water. The water. You can't even pronounce the word right if you wanted. That's why your pizza is not any good, because you have water, not water.
Peter Rosenberg
If you want a good bagel or you want a good pizza, you got to have the water from the New York pipes. Get out of here. What Carlin said is, he's even worse. He's doubling down now. This guy, he wrote. He wrote, I'll just stop by a supermarket and get some frozen Elios if I want.
Alan Hahn
He's not wrong. He's not wrong.
Peter Rosenberg
No, you know what? You haven't had lidos, okay? So don't jump in on. Don't. Don't jump in with calorie Carlin when.
Alan Hahn
You don't even know calorie Carlin.
Don La Greca
Wow. Listen, he's opinionated, man. There. There's no middle ground there. You know exactly how he.
Peter Rosenberg
No, you know, that's true. He lets it all hang out.
Alan Hahn
Oh, I hope he doesn't. Edgar in White Plains. What's up, Edgar?
Caller
Hello. Hello, gentlemen. Wow. I can't believe I'm talking to you guys. I mean, I've talked to all of you separately, but I love the new show. I was just gonna say, I've been listening to this station forever, man. Like Lupica Days, Bill. Daughtry days. I love listening to Dolce at night. Anyway, and. And just a little note. They. They did Cajun Dawn. Like a full buffet of Cajun dawn this morning on the. On the morning show. It's. They were. I can't remember how it started.
Alan Hahn
Oh, the drops Of Cajun Dawn.
Caller
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
Those are hysterical.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, we got to bring them back because we're heading Super Bowls in New Orleans.
Don La Greca
That's right. I don't want to go to Two ball.
Alan Hahn
You got to do one about my homes.
Caller
Enough to listen to your show. And when I look through the podcast in the living room, because if I listen to another room, I have an 11 month old and my wife gets furious because I burst out into laughing.
Alan Hahn
So that child's being raised right, though.
Caller
She goes, get out. That's right. All three of my kids. But I was gonna say, I know they're talking about you with your 3:00, you know, best city in the world. Don't let them knock you because you have the best intro of all the years I've been listening to the station. Your intro with Bart Scott. They had the best hands down.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, you mean the song.
Caller
All of them.
Alan Hahn
The whole thing, man.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, it was. It was not. It was. It was a moment.
Alan Hahn
Let me. Let me tell you something you don't already know. My fate, all sunshine and rainbows. You, me or nobody is going to hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you get hit. It's about how hard you get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done.
Caller
I still pump the red and then it plays itself. And then it hit somebody.
Peter Rosenberg
Exactly. Look at you.
Alan Hahn
You know what? You can't win, Rock. This guy will kill you to death inside of three rounds, by the way.
Peter Rosenberg
It's hilarious. It totally goes to show you that as Rocky older, he was on a completely different philosophical page.
Don La Greca
The way he sounded.
Peter Rosenberg
He's telling you to give up, right?
Alan Hahn
Like one of the famous. But to beat me, he's gonna have to kill me. And then it's like. It's about how hard you can get up. Like, can you just get up? As long as you can get up, that's all it matters.
Don La Greca
Never mind the difference of philosophy. It's just sound. Because if. If Rocky from Rocky Balboa said you can't win, you'd be like, you can' but you can't win in Rocky. In Rocky. For you can't win, Rock. But yeah, he had a lot. He was enthusiastic about it.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, yeah.
Don La Greca
It's like, listen, man, it's not your night. No, he's telling you. He's screaming at you. You can't do it.
Alan Hahn
Oh, my God. Chris and Coney Island Chris.
Caller
Hey, guys, what's going on?
Alan Hahn
What's Happening, man.
Don La Greca
So I just wanted to comment on the. The intro. I think Alan's right.
Caller
I think you guys need an exciting open because like I'm sure you guys remember when Stephen A.
Don La Greca
Used to have a show on here. He used to open up big with a big holla at your boys.
Caller
You should get going.
Don La Greca
See, I remember listening down at school.
Caller
I used to bounce out the school.
Don La Greca
Used to listen on the app.
Alan Hahn
Yep.
Caller
And I used to be excited for.
Don La Greca
That because no matter what it was.
Caller
A bad jets take or a Knicks.
Don La Greca
Take, whatever it was, he got you pumped.
Alan Hahn
Audio caffeine, baby. That's right. That's what it's about. Great Scott. I got a bad feeling about this. Hell yeah. Listen. Come on, Chris.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh yeah. The world ain't all slightly different push ups right now.
Don La Greca
Let's go.
Peter Rosenberg
You and me is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit.
Don La Greca
It's about how hard you can get.
Peter Rosenberg
Hit and keep moving forward.
Don La Greca
How much you can take and keep moving forward.
Peter Rosenberg
That's how winning is done.
Alan Hahn
You got like. Seriously, you guys can't get fired up for this.
Don La Greca
What is this from? I always wonder.
Alan Hahn
That's from remember the Titans is your. And then this of course.
Don La Greca
Go there and take it.
Peter Rosenberg
Han Solo.
Alan Hahn
Not just. You know, we all know. Waiting for the state for a long time. Can't wait. Please. He's the Bart.
Don La Greca
You know what? Now I'm. Now I'm jealous now. Now I think we made a mistake.
Alan Hahn
How good is that?
Don La Greca
Now I think we made a mistake.
Alan Hahn
You know what I mean? You start a show off that way, you got P.E. i mean honestly, that is audio caffeine.
Don La Greca
And we come up with a song that came out in 79.
Peter Rosenberg
We just went from the beginning of the show. We said it's the best thing. We have to buy 6:20. We're done. Ready to move on.
Alan Hahn
Didn't age. What?
Don La Greca
Didn't make it through the show. Now we got to do something. We're gonna have forget about emergency pods that we're thinking about doing.
Alan Hahn
We need four.
Don La Greca
We're gonna have a meeting right here.
Alan Hahn
Four fitting movie clips and that's it. And we're good to go.
Don La Greca
I Peter, I. We can't open with that tomorrow.
Peter Rosenberg
Well then you gotta support.
Don La Greca
I don't know. Is there a way to play that open and then just edit in. Take out Rosenberg like a mad Lib Rosenberg.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, let us marinate on this.
Don La Greca
Yeah, but it really was just a tremendous open.
Alan Hahn
Let's go to Eric in Staten Island. Eric.
Caller
What's going on, guys? So the first thing I want to say is, is, is, Han, if you're bringing anything over from the other show, it should be the Archer praising because you guys do so much stuff on the show that needs that drop.
Alan Hahn
That's a good drop. Yeah, I don't have a Drops page yet. They didn't make me one. And they. They killed my other one.
Peter Rosenberg
They did?
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Your old page.
Alan Hahn
My old Drops page is dead. They just deleted it. That's unceremoniously gone.
Peter Rosenberg
Sad and weird.
Alan Hahn
And there were a lot of good drops on there.
Peter Rosenberg
Anthony, what happened with that? Why are his drops gone?
Alan Hahn
They just deleted it. We cleaned everything up. No, it's not me. I don't. I don't control the time of that show anymore. Whatever they did with those old pages is up to them. Same thing with the Michael.
Caller
Yeah, they were.
Alan Hahn
They replaced Han and put Carlin so they.
Caller
All Hans Drops are out and Carlins is in.
Alan Hahn
Wait, wait, all mine are out?
Caller
So I see some of your old drops there.
Alan Hahn
Even though. Where am I looking? Where am I going?
Caller
Barton calling elements.
Alan Hahn
There's no more bar Hahn.
Caller
Phrasing.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, that's there.
Caller
Correct the noise.
Alan Hahn
Phrasing. Have you ever shot that shot? I'm one of my favorites.
Peter Rosenberg
So you still have your stuff there?
Alan Hahn
Well, yeah, but not like all the good. I love this one. Oh, my baby needs to play that off.
Caller
Oh, that's a good one.
Alan Hahn
Right? Or this one.
Caller
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
I hate it here.
Caller
Yeah, Like Bart.
Alan Hahn
Bart would go off on a tangent, and I'd know that HR is only gonna fire me, not him. And I would just go, I hate it here because I knew I was done.
Peter Rosenberg
Right. Right. So it was time to go. For you. I listened to some of those shows.
Alan Hahn
Oh, wow.
Peter Rosenberg
Thank you. I would listen. Well, those guys aren't gonna have a show.
Don La Greca
He did you a favor. He did you solid.
Alan Hahn
Gee, thanks. So you were the guy. So, Eric, you had. You wanted to state your case about something?
Caller
Yes, I wanted to stay my case. So I was called the fraud Eagles fan the other day. And I just want to say, like I said, I never grew up a big sports fan. The only thing in my house that was religion was being a Yankee fan. And I grew up during their run at the end of the 90s. So the only time I've really ever been crushed by them was I was actually getting into baseball this year. And, you know, that kind of. Kind of put me back in the dirt. But when I picked being an Eagles fan, it was a Couple of years ago, it was because of the fantasy. But I really. The Philadelphia, like, the city when. When there's a game going on, everyone in that city is wearing Eagle stuff. Like they're a big sports city. And I just, you know, I just. I kind of fell in love with that. I love the city of Philadelphia. I think it's great there. You know what I mean?
Peter Rosenberg
Right.
Caller
And like, that pushed me to be like, you know, and there's go birds up on the window. Like, everybody is rooting for Philadelphia.
Peter Rosenberg
And you jumped in, which is what makes you a fraud.
Caller
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Alan Hahn
No, that's not me.
Don La Greca
It's Peter.
Peter Rosenberg
But I'm right.
Alan Hahn
Peter.
Peter Rosenberg
Alan. You disagree. You don't disagree with me. He got. You get so hyped up because all the other fans that you jump in. It's the definition.
Caller
I really never.
Alan Hahn
If he never was a fan. Yeah, if he really never was.
Caller
All in my first jersey in my life that I've ever bought myself.
Peter Rosenberg
And what was it? All right, so listen, how about this? Don. I think Don's gonna love what I'm saying here. Yes, you are currently a fraud. Talk to me. In 12 years, the Eagles are 2 and 15. They're restarting. You're still an Eagles fan. I will have a great conversation.
Caller
You're 100% right.
Don La Greca
And I.
Caller
And I will. I'm standing by this team now. I just bought my. I'm making my son an Eagles fan.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, standing by them now is.
Don La Greca
Wait a minute, wait a minute. So you did not have a football team before you chose the Eagles, but.
Peter Rosenberg
He celebrated two giant Super Bowls.
Caller
It was like, when I was 17, there was a girl that I was interested in and I loved Paramore in 2007. I don't like Paramore now. You know what I mean? Like, I celebrated because that was the thing to do. We all celebrated in the street. We went to the city for the parade. I hung out with all my friends.
Peter Rosenberg
Right, but you weren't a fan.
Don La Greca
Right, I get it. I don't think it's fraudulent. It's an origin story from how he became a fan. But he wasn't. He wasn't really a fan of the Giants. It was just there. If he had been a die hard fan and was sick of the losing and jumped the Philly bandwagon, that's a fraud.
Alan Hahn
Stick it out.
Don La Greca
But he didn't. I don't know. I just. It's. It's just weird to not be into sports and all of a sudden that late in life get into it. Kind of odd, but whatever, you know, just do you.
Alan Hahn
That's how I say, why do you need everybody else's rules? Isn't that what you said, Peter?
Don La Greca
I did, yeah. Well, no, give me your rules on who. But, but, but I do. See, I said this to Dave and Rick earlier this week when I called. Fraud is not as bad as it seems. Like my brother was a fraud because he became a cowboy fan just to stick it to my dad because he was a giant.
Peter Rosenberg
But your brother is to this day a, when it comes to sports, a fraud. His real thing that he's not a fraud about is wrestling. He's die hard when it comes to sports. He's a fraud. He can take it or leave it. My point is, that's what this guy is. He's a take it or leave it. Right now it's fun because the Eagles are in the super bowl again for the third time in the last eight years. And it's great. I have no problem with him being a fraud. Have fun. Enjoy yourself. I'm just saying. Are you a fraud? Yeah, of course you are. That anyone did neither of you disagree with that? Come on. I'm nailing this wrong.
Don La Greca
Thank you. Let's see if it, let's see if it holds up. When they go, you know, 1 in.
Alan Hahn
16, I always believe it. It's like being a fan is easy when a team is good, it's, it's, you know, new addition. Can you stay in the rain? Like, you got to live through that Stu stuff to really show your true colors as a fan. All right, we have more of your calls coming up because we love this time of the show. But Don's got to tell us a little more about Mazda.
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Peter Rosenberg
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
Alan Hahn
Catch this show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. There's always going to be that song that though maybe you're like, I'm not listening to this anymore. Like you said this Don. Right. And then 20 years, like 30 years later, the song has a different meaning to you because it feels like comfort food. It's like that warm blanket of nostalgia. Right, Peter? That's what music does for us. So the song that we thought was corny from when we were kids, you hear or teenagers, or even in your 20s, you hear it later in life and it suddenly has a new meaning. And you're like, wow, I find myself. How do I know every word to this song that I used to hate and never want to listen to?
Don La Greca
It just takes your back. That's what music does, right? It makes it.
Peter Rosenberg
Is that the song we were just playing?
Alan Hahn
What was that, Jake? That was what the caller was referencing. He referenced Paramore, so we came. Paramore.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. Okay, Just checking.
Alan Hahn
All right, we're all caught up. Good.
Peter Rosenberg
I. I wouldn't know Paramore song if it, if it played on My radio show.
Don La Greca
But you said.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, exactly.
Alan Hahn
Mike in the Bronx. What's up, Mike?
Caller
What's up, guys?
Don La Greca
Yeah, I got an idea for your intro.
Caller
Why don't you use the Chicago Bull scene?
Don La Greca
That.
Alan Hahn
Hell no. No, no.
Don La Greca
And that would not be every day.
Alan Hahn
You know, that gave. That gave me nightmares. And the worst thing is it's Alan Parsons project.
Don La Greca
Yeah, it's serious.
Alan Hahn
It's called I Did that. That would give me nightmares, that song.
Don La Greca
And leading into the song, Where Do We Go From Here?
Peter Rosenberg
They can announce all your names and.
Alan Hahn
Heights and weights again. I'm out. Because when I heard that song, you know it was coming. You know it was coming. Michael Jordan was coming. Hell no.
Don La Greca
Well, you know what's coming now?
Alan Hahn
Alan Han at 3:00. Yeah, but not to that song. We can come up with something better, but. Thank you, Mike. It's a good try. I'll give you an effort. Dave and Wes Caldwell. Hey, Dave. Hey, guys.
Don La Greca
How's it going?
Alan Hahn
Good.
Caller
Your, your. Your fraud conversation had me thinking while stuck in traffic on the belt wondering, is it worse to be a fraud in a different sport? Like as a Devils fan, I can never root for the Penguins, Rangers, Flyers and Islanders. I couldn't do that.
Don La Greca
That's the old conference back in the day.
Caller
The old Atlantic.
Alan Hahn
Yep.
Caller
But in the NFC east, as a Giants fan, couldn't root for anybody else like this. I'm rooting for the Chiefs. I don't care about the. The Casey dynasty stuff. I'd rather see the Chiefs win to see the Eagles win.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you.
Caller
Is there. Is there is a fraud, someone being a fraud worse than a different sport kind of thing? That's really.
Alan Hahn
I know what you're saying.
Don La Greca
I'm not following him.
Peter Rosenberg
So I lost him completely. What did he.
Alan Hahn
He was talking about it like you can't root for a team that is in your division.
Peter Rosenberg
Right, right. But that's a.
Don La Greca
But he was saying about crossing the sports. That's what I didn't understand. So he said, you want to re.
Alan Hahn
Explain.
Caller
So Don, if I, as a Devil's fan, start rooting for the Rangers.
Don La Greca
Right, right.
Caller
That would be a fraud. I shouldn't be rooting them because they're. They're a divisional opponent and someone that's somebody should never root for it. They're a rival. Right?
Don La Greca
Yes.
Caller
Just like the Eagles and Cowboys. But I guess everybody gets.
Don La Greca
Is a fraud.
Caller
A fraud in all sports or is there one. Is there different tiers to the whole thing?
Don La Greca
Well, you could Be a Die Hard in one sport and also, you know, be a fraud in another sport. I'm sure there's examples of that.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Don La Greca
But I would think if you are a Devil fan and won't root for anybody in the old Patrick, Atlantic and now Metropolitan Division, I would think that also applies in the NFL and the NBA. But I do think there are certain exceptions for me, like, I don't hate the Commanders as much as I hate the Eagles and the Cowboys in the NFC East. So if the Commanders had made it to the super bowl, the way I'm so irritated and sickened by Kansas City, I would root for the Commanders.
Peter Rosenberg
Wow.
Don La Greca
There you go. Let me ask you this, then. All right, But, Jay, I got a problem. But wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Would you. Would you. After what happened with Johnny Goudreau, would you have a problem if the Columbus Blue Jackets made a run to the Stanley Cup Final? Would you root against them because they're in the Devils division, or would you say it's Columbus, they're harmless, let's root for them.
Caller
I think I focus on, since I'm 37, the Atlantic Division is where I have traditional.
Don La Greca
Well, what you're doing there, Dave, is that you're not really following a steadfast rule of you don't root for teams in your division. What you're saying is there are certain teams you hate going back to the Atlantic Division, like, so that's what I look at. It's like, I hate Patrick Division or the old Patrick, but he doesn't sound like he's old enough to remember the Patrick.
Alan Hahn
I don't think he would. Yeah, what's that?
Caller
Division.
Don La Greca
Yeah. See? Exactly how old are you?
Peter Rosenberg
That long ago?
Alan Hahn
It's the Atlantic.
Don La Greca
And how old are you?
Alan Hahn
He's 37.
Don La Greca
30.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Don La Greca
So that would probably be. Yeah, it's probably.
Alan Hahn
He was a child, a little too old.
Don La Greca
But there's certain teams even in the old Atlantic Division. I'm just trying to remember there, because there was a time, believe me, Pittsburgh wasn't even there. Washington was in the Southeast Division, remember? Because you pick up hatred for teams in your division because how often you play them. And there's a rivalry that kind of gets built up from there.
Alan Hahn
Right.
Don La Greca
But it never happened for Giants and Commanders, for me, because the Giants always seem to come up on the winning side. So that hatred never build up the way it hate the hatred built up for the 49ers, who are 3,000 miles away. But the Giants have had some heartbreaking losses in the postseason in San Francisco. So I don't think it's a steadfast. You can't root for teams in your division. To me, it's more. You're likely not going to root for teams in your division because of the rivalries, but it doesn't mean you have a rivalry with everybody in your division.
Peter Rosenberg
I will say, though, even your commander's theory probably would end up changing for you because, like, a team winning the championship in your own division is the beginning of that team becoming a nightmare for you.
Alan Hahn
Very often that's the part, right. I would feel a certain way.
Don La Greca
It's very fluid. But in my lifetime, Washington, no offense, Peter, has not been.
Peter Rosenberg
Don't. Don't bet me. It's not like they didn't win two Super Bowls, right? But.
Don La Greca
But it hasn't been a problem for me because there's. I can't think of too many hearts, heartbreaking losses to Washington the way I can Philadelphia and Dallas. I can't think of too many hateable players on Washington the way that I hated the Cowboys and the Eagles. So that's where it came down to. So I do think there are exceptions to the rules, especially in basketball. Do you hate. As a Knick fan, do you hate every team in your division? No, you can't possibly.
Alan Hahn
Well, there's only three, four. And the one team that's sort of the outlier is the Raptors. Like, it's sort of. They're just the Raptors, you know, like, so the Raptors.
Don La Greca
So did you root against the Raptors when they went to the Finals the other year? Because they are in the Knicks division.
Alan Hahn
I don't know what I did then. I was really more compelled with Kevin Durant at that point. And I don't root anymore. The only thing I told you, the only thing I really root for is the Yankees. That's it. But everybody else is just business.
Don La Greca
But you see what I'm like, even and honestly. But I know you can hate the Brooklyn Nets if you want, because they're really. If you're a Knick fan, really, what are you doing?
Alan Hahn
I don't think Knick fans hate them, right?
Don La Greca
So I'm just so.
Alan Hahn
I think they just kind of.
Don La Greca
It's like, I don't think you'd want them to win a title before you, so you wouldn't necessarily root for them. But you can't tell me that the Brooklyn Nets are anywhere in the same stratosphere as the Sixers and the Celtics.
Alan Hahn
No.
Don La Greca
As far as hating, no.
Alan Hahn
Historically, no. Not even close? No, not even close.
Don La Greca
So I just. Where I would go after Rothenberg is I just. To me, I don't think it's absolutely steadfast rule. You have to root against the teams in your division because then that would say you hate them all equally. And I don't.
Alan Hahn
But there's no way that you can root for the Eagles if you're a Giants fan. Never. Even if you despise Mahomes, if you hate Taylor Swift with everything in your body, you still don't want to see the Eagles win a Super Bowl. It doesn't matter.
Don La Greca
But I'll tell you this. Let's just say they did some kind of wacko realignment, all right? And they move the Eagles to the AFC east and they moved the Bills to the nfcs.
Alan Hahn
Okay.
Don La Greca
Am I all of a sudden supposed to hate the Bills?
Alan Hahn
No, you got no history.
Don La Greca
But I still hate the Eagles. Even if they're staying in the afc and I hardly ever played them and wouldn't face them unless they in a big game, unless it was the Super Bowl, I would still hate them. I wouldn't automatically be like, well, I'm going to root against the Bills because they're now in my division. Well, I got. I wouldn't automatically. Now 10 years later, they keep me out of the playoffs. They beat me then. I might build a hatred towards them, but I wouldn't all of a sudden hate them because they're in my division.
Alan Hahn
I used to hate the Colts.
Don La Greca
Yeah. They were in the jets division.
Alan Hahn
I couldn't stand the Colts.
Don La Greca
They played some big games and they.
Alan Hahn
Played a lot of big games against each other. There was just something about animal. And then suddenly they were in. It was realignment. They were in another division. And I haven't had an emotion about the Colts in years.
Don La Greca
Do you really think that it's the same thing with the Giants, with the Cardinals, the Old St. Louis Cardinals, Phoenix Cardinals? Do you think I had any kind of thought about them whatsoever?
Alan Hahn
No. No. I haven't thought about the Colts as anything I didn't like. But there was a time in the 80s and early 90s I couldn't stand them.
Don La Greca
Same thing with the Mets. I hated the St. Louis Cardinals.
Alan Hahn
Oh, yeah. That was a major rival, you know.
Don La Greca
And I still don't love them. But obviously the hatred wanes over the years.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, but the Cubs hate. The more they don't.
Peter Rosenberg
I'll say.
Don La Greca
It's been kind of. Kind of fluid. So I just. I take it aside.
Alan Hahn
I guess that's the problem. With pro sports is that they're nothing ever. The tradition of things have changed so much now is that there's such confusion between generations about our emotions towards teams because it's not traditional anymore. It has changed dramatically. There are very few real traditional rivalries that still exist, but they're not as much as they used to.
Don La Greca
And you look at the NHL with the expansion, like, what was it? The Sharks came in in 1991. So it went from 22 team, 21 teams to 22. There's now. So fast forward 30 years later, they.
Alan Hahn
Added 10 teams, 10 more teams.
Don La Greca
They've realigned the divisions. You know, it's crazy. So you just. You hate the teams you hate. And if you. If you all of a sudden root for a team that you hate, that makes you a fraud. I don't hate Washington. I'm sorry. Like, I don't like.
Alan Hahn
If you think about it, the Norris Division. You remember who was in the Norris Division.
Don La Greca
Well, that would be the Blackhawks, the North Stars, the Maple Leafs. Blackhawks, North Stars, Maple Leafs.
Alan Hahn
Red Wings.
Don La Greca
Red Wings.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, that. Those were bloodbaths. Right, right. The Adams Division.
Don La Greca
The Adams Division, of course, had the. The Canadiens, the Nordiques, the Bruins and the Sabres.
Alan Hahn
That's right. Another one. Bloodbath. Right. Like they played each other.
Don La Greca
Harvard Whalers.
Alan Hahn
That's true. I forgot about Hartford Whalers.
Don La Greca
Well, because the top four teams in each division made the playoffs.
Alan Hahn
It was just. It was something. And the Patrick and all.
Don La Greca
So St. Louis was also in the Norris. Right. So they had five teams. That's right.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. And the point is, is that those were traditional. When you played a divisional, like there was something generational about it. And now it's. It's not there. It's not the same as it once was. And that's what I love about the NFL, the AFC North. Like, you know what you're getting, right? You know What?
Peter Rosenberg
You get 100.
Alan Hahn
I just think there's something about that, that it just doesn't have that same feel that it used to have.
Don La Greca
And it changed again.
Alan Hahn
NFC East. You know what you're getting?
Don La Greca
I would think as a Knick fan, you hate the Miami Heat.
Alan Hahn
There's. That still lives. Yeah, that still lives. And then. And they haven't been in it. They haven't been together in years.
Don La Greca
Not in your division. So I would think you probably hate the Heat more than you do the. Right.
Alan Hahn
But you know what, though?
Don La Greca
The.
Alan Hahn
The NBA, they have divisions. Nobody pays attention. Nobody pays attention to division rankings because.
Don La Greca
Winning your division doesn't lock you into a seat.
Alan Hahn
Well, winning the division is, is, it's fine. But it's, it's, it's one through eight is the only thing that matters now. And it's all about the East.
Don La Greca
But the, but the Knicks are in.
Alan Hahn
Second place in the Atlantic Division. Nobody cares. It doesn't mean anything.
Don La Greca
Winning your division doesn't lock you into a top two seed.
Alan Hahn
It gives you a four. It just gives you the top, right?
Don La Greca
So that's the difference.
Peter Rosenberg
It means the least of any sport.
Alan Hahn
They're only by name, but nobody ever talks about division unless you win it and then you get a banner. That's it, right? Other than that, nobody really talks about it.
Don La Greca
I like this conversation.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, this is, this is, this is a fun conversation. We have more conversations to have with you coming up. 800 now. 193776. But first, Peter's got FanDuel.
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Workday starting to sound the same. I think you're on mute.
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Don La Greca
This is right in my wheelhouse for.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, this is. This is wheelhouse food.
Peter Rosenberg
I would have guessed that, too.
Don La Greca
It's right there. Iced tea.
Alan Hahn
What's wrong with it? What's wrong with that? Why would you say it with such disdain in your voice?
Peter Rosenberg
Well, the disdain is for you for not knowing that that would be in his wheelhouse.
Don La Greca
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
See what I'm saying?
Alan Hahn
No, I don't.
Peter Rosenberg
I absolutely knew that. Ice. Ice cube prime. Early 90s. Ice cube would be something Don Legreco would know.
Alan Hahn
But I love.
Don La Greca
I love Lakers because Supersonics.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, there you go.
Alan Hahn
The fact that, like, the early 90s, which is my favorite era of hip hop, is actually something that resonates with Don that I really didn't know was that much that moved him to the point where he's singing.
Don La Greca
I mean, it.
Peter Rosenberg
Listen, it's just. It's going to be a limited wheelhouse.
Don La Greca
No, it's. No, we can expand that. I. I started walking around like, I'm Joe Hip Hop. You'd say that I'm a fraud, but I know what I know. I like Wu Tang.
Peter Rosenberg
Enter the Wu Tang.
Don La Greca
That's it.
Peter Rosenberg
He likes Ice Cube.
Don La Greca
Ice Cube. He likes iced tea and little things.
Peter Rosenberg
After that, there may be a drop.
Don La Greca
That's pretty much it. And I was like, early.
Alan Hahn
There's probably stuff that you could play for him that he doesn't know that he would like.
Don La Greca
Probably.
Alan Hahn
That's what I mean. Like, it's just the sound that I need to know. Oh, if that's the sound you like. Oh, I got a lot. I got a lot I could play for.
Don La Greca
What was the Jay Z song that I like literally was turned on by, like, eight months ago that had been out for 20 years.
Peter Rosenberg
99 problems.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. Oh, wow.
Don La Greca
I always knew the song existed. And then I heard it because I. Again, I'm. I listen to Sirius XM and Tom Morello has a show, and he played it, and I'm like, this is amazing. And then I heard that. I'm like, oh, this is. This is that song. So. But I just. I don't live in that world. I'm a little. The Hawthorne suburban. It was like, it was a birthright to be into Maiden and Priest. Like, that was kind of what you did. You were a metal guy. You were a hard rock guy, classic rock guy, hip hop. I was not exposed to it until the tail end of college when I started work. You know, working at the radio station, hearing in hip hop. And then once I graduated and started working at Sports Phone, I was getting introduced to all these art, and I loved it.
Peter Rosenberg
And 99 problems by Jay Z is a cover of Ice Tea. Even more reason for you to love it.
Don La Greca
Is that true?
Peter Rosenberg
That's true.
Alan Hahn
If you're having girl problems, I feel bad for you, son.
Peter Rosenberg
It's a cover of Iced Tea. There you go, doc.
Alan Hahn
Let's take Jerry in Queens. Jerry.
Don La Greca
Why did it sound like a question? Jerry in Queens.
Alan Hahn
Queens.
Caller
Because my name's not Jerry. Said it right the second time.
Alan Hahn
Jerry.
Caller
Yes, sir.
Don La Greca
How you doing?
Caller
I don't know. I don't know if the producer told you, but I am the husband of Rochelle and Queen.
Alan Hahn
Oh, this Rochelle we talking about? Hang on a second. It's this Rochelle.
Caller
I have had a relationship with you, Don.
Alan Hahn
In my head.
Caller
That's the first time I laid eyes on you.
Don La Greca
Well, this is awkward.
Alan Hahn
No, it's not awkward.
Don La Greca
I hope you're not mad at me. I had nothing to do with it.
Caller
I promise you, it's not awkward. First of all, like she said, I've been a listener since 47. So it goes way back. Exactly. I go back. So I know you, Don.
Don La Greca
Okay.
Caller
But I also know my wife.
Peter Rosenberg
Right.
Caller
So she has let me not get ahead of myself. Alan. How are you, sir?
Alan Hahn
Good. How you doing, Jerry?
Caller
I'm doing well.
Don La Greca
Peter Rosenberg.
Caller
How are you, sir?
Peter Rosenberg
Hey, Jerry. We're good.
Caller
All right. I don't want to disrespect. My condolences, Alan. Congratulations, Peter. Y'all know why. Okay.
Peter Rosenberg
Thank you, buddy.
Caller
Donald Greco. So my wife has a crush on you, yet she also has a crush on dmx, so her spectrum is large. But here's the thing. Here's the thing, all right? You are a specific. You, like, fit the Dinero and Goodfellas kind of role. That's her. Like, that's her crush on that side. But I know my wife, like I said, and she's a wardrobe stylist. So she was on set with another quote, unquote, crush, who she actually liked. But that's a whole other story.
Don La Greca
Okay, so.
Caller
But she had the assignment to do this guy's manicure on set. So she had the opportunity. Opportunity to act on whatever she wanted to in this situation. And she proved to be loyal to me.
Don La Greca
Oh, I never for a second thought anything was going to. It felt very innocent to me.
Alan Hahn
I'm very much the fact that she.
Don La Greca
Admitted it shows you that it was all very innocent.
Caller
Of course. I just wanted to put that I.
Alan Hahn
Like it on public notice. I also like the fact, you know, how confident of a man is, Jarret, and confident in his manhood, that he could have these conversations comfortably about his wife. That he could hear her say things like that to you.
Don La Greca
Right?
Alan Hahn
And him just sitting there, just going like, no, no, she knows where her dip is.
Caller
But I told her to call when I heard what Jeff said.
Don La Greca
But it does have that feel. That does have that feel of just in case you were thinking of acting on it, Don, think again. No, it did have that feel like I'm gonna be, like, cruising the streets, Queens, just hoping to bump into her someplace, to say, hey. So you said these things. What are you doing? You want to go for a drink? You want to talk this out? No. So, no, But I hear you. That's your woman. You definitely laid the boundary down. I'm with it. I respect it.
Caller
He walked in, she saw you, she said, who is that? Okay, he's on the list. I said, there you go.
Alan Hahn
I need to know, though, Drake, you must have a list yourself. Who's at the top of the list? Who does she know that's on your list?
Caller
A celebrity. That's on my list.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. Who's your celebrity?
Caller
That would have to be. It would have to be Taraji. It would have to be Taraji. Absolutely.
Alan Hahn
Okay.
Caller
I love the drop.
Alan Hahn
It's the best drop.
Caller
But seriously, before I let you guys proceed, we just celebrated our 17th anniversary.
Alan Hahn
Wow, that's great. Congratulations.
Peter Rosenberg
There we go.
Caller
And I know that you guys are gonna be on the island, I believe, Friday.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, next Friday. That's right. Rockville Center.
Caller
Next. Tap Room at Tap Room. That's what.
Alan Hahn
Yes, sir.
Caller
I would love to pull up with her, surprise her, and give her a Don Lagreca teddy bear hug, if possible.
Alan Hahn
That's tremendous.
Peter Rosenberg
That's a great.
Alan Hahn
We'll be there. We'll be there for sure on this. It's the 7th, right? Yeah. February 7th, a week from Friday. Tap Room, Rockville Center. Jerae, all the best to you. And also Rochelle.
Caller
Thank you, guys.
Alan Hahn
Thank you. Thank you. My God, Quickly, the All Star reserves were announced in the East. No. No other Knicks. No. Josh Hart. No. Mikhail Bridges.
Don La Greca
That bother you?
Alan Hahn
No, not at all. Jaylen Brown, Cade Cunningham. Well deserved. Darius Garland, Tyler Herro, Damian Lillard, Evan Mobley and Pascal Siakam.
Don La Greca
So there you go.
Alan Hahn
Well, this was a lot of fun, especially that last hour. It was great. We got my drops back, baby. We'll see you all tomorrow. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.
Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast Summary
Episode: Hour 4: Intros & Fraudulence
Release Date: January 31, 2025
The episode begins with the hosts, Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg, engaging in light-hearted banter about the show's introduction segments. They discuss previous intros, referencing iconic shows like Michael Kay's and Mad Dog's, and express a desire to refine their own opening to better captivate their audience.
A significant portion of the episode focuses on the podcast's intro and the effectiveness of their opening clips. The hosts reminisce about past shows and intros, debating what works and what doesn't. They consider incorporating more dynamic and authentic elements to energize the show from the start.
Listeners call in to discuss the concept of being a "fraud" fan—someone who supports a team without genuine passion or switches allegiances for convenience. The conversation delves into what qualifies someone as a true fan versus a fraud, with personal anecdotes highlighting the complexity of fandom loyalty.
The core of the episode revolves around fraudulent fandom, exploring why some fans may not be genuinely invested in their chosen teams. The hosts analyze different scenarios, such as switching teams after major wins or losing interest without longstanding support. They debate whether authenticity in fandom is essential for enjoying sports and how societal influences affect fan loyalty.
The conversation expands to discuss rivalries and loyalty within and across various sports leagues. The hosts share their perspectives on maintaining loyalty to teams despite changes in league structures, realignments, and personal experiences with heartbreak over losses.
The hosts highlight how traditional rivalries have evolved with league expansions and realignments. They express nostalgia for past divisions where rivalries were more intense and discuss how modern changes have diluted some of these long-standing competitive edges.
Interspersed throughout the episode are promotional segments for various sponsors, including Ramsey Mazda, TaxAct, Mint Mobile, and LinkedIn. These segments are seamlessly integrated into the conversation but are quickly skipped by the hosts to maintain the episode's flow.
As the episode nears its end, the hosts reflect on the discussions and express their appreciation for listener interactions. They encourage more calls and feedback, emphasizing the importance of community engagement in shaping the show’s content.
This episode of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg offers a deep dive into the nuances of sports fandom, challenging listeners to reflect on their own loyalty and engagement with their favorite teams. Through engaging discussions and listener interactions, the hosts provide insightful perspectives on maintaining authenticity in an ever-evolving sports landscape.