Hour 4: Knicks Injury Update

Summary

Podcast Summary: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 4: Knicks Injury Update
Release Date: February 4, 2025

In the fourth hour of the "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" podcast, hosted by ESPN New York's Don LaGreca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg, the trio delves deep into the latest developments surrounding the New York Knicks, focusing primarily on injury updates and their implications for the team's upcoming games. The discussion is enriched with insights, expert opinions, and engaging listener interactions, providing a comprehensive overview for fans keen on understanding the Knicks' current standing and future prospects.

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1. Knicks Injury Update

Ochi Anunoby's Injury Status

The episode kicks off with a detailed update on Ochi Anunoby's recent injury. Alan Hahn provides a thorough breakdown of the situation:

• Injury Details: Anunoby sustained a mild foot sprain during Saturday night's game, exiting non-contact after reaching for the back of his leg. Initial fears speculated a more severe injury, possibly an Achilles tear.

  "Tom Thibodeau... called it a foot sprain... 'We'll see how he responds to treatment now'." [01:30]

• Coach's Statement: Tom Thibodeau emphasized the mild nature of the sprain, indicating that the situation is better than initially feared.

  "They just keep saying sprain and now it's mild sprain, that he's day to day." – Don LaGreca [03:01]

Mitchell Robinson's Progress

Transitioning to Mitchell Robinson, Alan Hahn shares promising news regarding his return:

• Clearance for Contact: Robinson has been cleared for contact, marking a significant step towards his return post-offseason foot surgery.

  "But still, adding him, if he can get himself on the court would be a major plus for this team." – Alan Hahn [02:16]

• Return Timeline: While Robinson hasn't fully returned yet, his progress suggests he might rejoin the lineup shortly after the All-Star break, providing the Knicks with much-needed defensive prowess.

  "He's very, very particular with his body and if things aren't right, he doesn't like to play." – Alan Hahn [04:09]

2. Trade Deadline and Team Dynamics

Strategic Implications of Injuries

The discussion moves towards the broader implications of these injuries on the Knicks' strategy, especially concerning the trade deadline:

• Trade Considerations: Hahn speculates that if Anunoby were confirmed to miss the remainder of the season, the Knicks might seek to be more aggressive in the trade market.

  "Having him on the team and him not playing and keeping him suspended isn't going to help your team either." – Alan Hahn [09:38]

• Impact on Trade Decisions: The health of key players like Anunoby and Robinson influences the Knicks' approach to trades, balancing immediate performance with long-term team stability.

  "If you knew something was pretty serious with a player like that, you might be a little more aggressive at the trade deadline." – Alan Hahn [06:17]

3. Listener Calls and Discussions

Jimmy Butler's Potential Trade to the Suns

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to listener interactions, where fans share their insights and concerns:

• Caller's Perspective: One listener, a Miami Heat fan, expresses concerns about Jimmy Butler's desire to move to the Phoenix Suns and the challenges associated with such a trade.

  "He slowly wants to go to the Suns... I'm almost thinking there's a possibility that Jimmy Butler might still be with the Heat..." – Caller [07:05]

• Host's Analysis: Don LaGreca and Peter Rosenberg debate the viability of Butler's transfer, discussing the Suns' willingness to trade assets like Bradley Beal and Butler's impact on team dynamics.

  "But what do you do? You just don't hand him to the place that he wants to go..." – Don LaGreca [09:14]

Comparisons to Historical Trades

Another listener brings up the trade between Jason Kidd and Stefan Marbury between the Nets and Suns, prompting the hosts to compare its significance to the current trade scenario involving Luka Doncic.

"The one that I didn't hear was the Jason Kidd for Stefan Marbury trade between the Nets and the Suns back in the day." – Caller [32:38]
"It's a step back from that, but I also saw..." – Peter Rosenberg [20:41]

4. Special Segments

Listener-Submitted Song: "DHR Show"

Peter Rosenberg introduces a listener-submitted theme song for the podcast, showcasing community engagement and adding a personalized touch to the show.

"Here's the song... 'ESPN Radio, D HR Show...'" – Caller [17:53]

Grammys Highlight: LeBron vs. Kendrick Lamar

The hosts transition to discussing last night's Grammys, drawing parallels between musical rivalries and sports dynamics:

• Kendrick Lamar's Dominance: They reflect on Kendrick's overwhelming success at the Grammys, comparing it to iconic sports upsets.

  "It's like Holyfield beating Tyson in the first one, obviously..." – Peter Rosenberg [26:38]

• Industry Backlash: The conversation touches on the industry's apparent bias against Drake in favor of Kendrick, exploring the broader implications for artist relations.

  "The entire industry is celebrating the guy that I'm in a rivalry with." – Don LaGreca [28:29]

5. Game Time Preparations

As the episode nears its conclusion, the hosts shift focus back to the Knicks' upcoming game against the Rockets at Madison Square Garden:

• Final Injury Assessments: They reiterate the importance of Anunoby's mild sprain and Robinson's potential return, emphasizing the impact on the game's outcome.

  "If he's close to being cleared, that's a big deal." – Alan Hahn [38:34]

• Madison Square Garden as a Venue: Don LaGreca muses on the Garden's unique atmosphere, suggesting it can be both an advantage and a pressure point for visiting teams.

  "Madison Square Garden becomes more of a detriment to the Knicks than help?" – Don LaGreca [14:14]

6. Conclusion

The episode wraps up with final thoughts on team health, strategic moves leading up to the trade deadline, and acknowledgments of listener contributions. The hosts reiterate the significance of staying updated on player statuses and how these affect the Knicks' performance and potential acquisitions.

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Key Takeaways:

• Ochi Anunoby's Injury: While initially alarming, Anunoby's injury is confirmed as a mild foot sprain, allowing him to be day-to-day and potentially return soon.

• Mitchell Robinson's Return: Robinson is nearing his return to the lineup, which could bolster the Knicks' defense significantly once fully cleared.

• Trade Deadline Dynamics: The Knicks' approach to the upcoming trade deadline is heavily influenced by the health and availability of key players like Anunoby and Robinson.

• Listener Engagement: Insights from listeners provide a richer understanding of ongoing team dynamics and potential trade scenarios, highlighting the community's investment in the Knicks' success.

• Madison Square Garden Advantage: The iconic venue continues to play a pivotal role in game outcomes, serving as both a fortress and a high-pressure environment for visiting teams.

This episode offers Knicks fans a thorough update on player statuses, strategic considerations, and the broader implications for the team's trajectory as the season progresses toward the trade deadline.

Transcript

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3.

[Alan Hahn]

On 880 ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers. All right, at the 6:00 hour we go. Don Hahn and Rosenberg 880 ESPN, the ESPN New York app. 800-919-3776 is the number. As you know, the 6:00 hour, always a color heavy hour. So get in line right now. Only a couple lines open. So Knicks and the Rockets tonight here at the Garden. It'll be a great game because two physical teams that get after it. The Rockets have been playing really good basketball again, another top team in the west coming into the Garden. So another test for the Knicks, but some injury news here guys that I want to share with you before we get into the conversation. Tom Thibodeau just had his pregame meeting with the press on Ochi Anunoby, which when the injury happened Saturday night, everybody just held their breath because of the way it was non contact. He reached for the back of his leg. He had a sleeve on the calf to begin with, limped off the court, did not return. They called it a foot sprain. Tom Thibodeau said that the injury is a mild sprain. This is the quote. We'll see how he responds to treatment now. They play tomorrow in Toronto, which is where he loves to play. That's his former team. Asked if he'll play tomorrow, all Tom Sibado would say is that is premature to say now. That's way better than what a lot of people thought it would turn into from just the looks of the injury. But we still don't know the details. Thibod also said he believes that he had an mri, but he doesn't know for sure, which I don't know what to make of that.

[Don LaGreca]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

Exactly. Last but not least, the Knicks have been waiting for Mitchell Robinson all season long to return to the lineup after he had off season foot surgery. He has been cleared for contact so he's closer to also returning to the lineup, which still is going to take some practices that he's got to get through, clearing for practice, contact and then move from there. But still, adding him, if he can get himself on the court would be a major plus for this team. They really, really need exactly what he brings. Size, defense, rebounding, all that stuff. So did they avoid something serious with Anunoby? We'll find out in the next couple of days. But right now all they're saying is that it's a mild sprain of his foot.

[Don LaGreca]

God, it just seems so weird for that to be a mild sprain. When you watched it live, it just looked, first of all you thought Achilles, all right, he's done for the year. That, that seemed to be ruled out right away. That would be just a home run. It would. What else could you call it? If he just misses a couple of games, mild sprain, he's okay. Not sure why the coach of the Knicks wouldn't know whether he had an MRI or not. Hopefully that's just the semantics of the timing of it. But listen, they would dodge a huge bullet because this is kind of his MO. It's a shame, but you get around that 50 game mark, something always seems to happen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, man, I mean, I'm not saying OG's Mitchell Robinson here, but there is a thing that happens here too. Does seem.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not Mitchell, but it is recurring. It does seems a little fragile.

[Alan Hahn]

The thing with Anunoby, I think that everybody watches is that. And the guys in Toronto were telling us this when the Knicks traded for him is when he plays, he's really good.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, if he hurts.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, but if he's hurt, they're 52 and 20. When he plays well, there's like a.

[Don LaGreca]

760 winning percentage or something ridiculous like that.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it's really remarkable. But what they told me in Toronto is that. But if he gets hurt, he's not a guy that rushes back like he's, you know, he'll make sure he's a hundred percent before he comes back. He's very, very particular with his body and if things aren't right, he doesn't like to play. So he played the first. Where are we at now? 48 games of the season, 49 games, whatever we're at. So he's played a lot of games already and I think he's mindful of the 65 game thing because I do think for him all defensive team is very important to him. But we'll see. Again, like you said, Don, when I saw that right away I was like, oh, no, like that looked like something that was pretty serious. And the fact that they just keep saying sprain and now it's mild sprain, that he's day to day. I was not expecting day to day. I was expecting how many weeks is this going to be? But, you know, still remains to be seen because with Anunoby, you know, you never know. He has to feel right before he wants to come back. So you got to keep an eye on that.

[Don LaGreca]

Now, I doubt he'd hop on a flight tonight and go to Toronto. So I would think he's out at least this one in Toronto, right?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it's a back to back. They don't play till Saturday against the Celtics. Now, you'd love to get him back for that game, of course, but you also know again, like you want to get him back at some point, but if this is only a day to day situation. Yeah. Sit tomorrow, give yourself a full week and see if you feel better to play in that game against the Celtics at Madison Square Garden on Saturday night.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, you know, what you don't want to be talking about is this, this being a thing after the All Star break. Let's be honest, that's where we're at right now with the way things have happened for this team in turn in terms of the inopportune injury moments.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's just hope that. How many games are there before the break period? Five.

[Alan Hahn]

I think it's. It's two next week and three this week, counting tonight. So you have five. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So, yeah, I mean, part of me just goes, let's just make sure we're not having this conversation after the All Star break, man.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, yeah. Well, also think about it. Trade deadlines Thursday. If you knew something was pretty serious with a player like that, you might be a little more aggressive at the trade deadline than you would if you felt like, okay, he, we avoided something serious and we're getting Mitchell Robinson back. Like, if you know those two things. I don't think the Knicks need to be aggressive at the trade deadline, but if you were worried about Robinson being available and then you lose an anobi, I think it would almost force your hand to do something. So, you know, this news today is interesting, but certainly something to watch and certainly something to monitor as the Knicks get closer. So like I said, it's still better news than a lot of people thought it would be. 800-93776. Guys, we have lots of calls to get to. It's always a good time to get to those while I get to some business downstairs.

[Don LaGreca]

Sounds good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right. You know what? Well, without any further ado, we've. We've had the man on hold. We love the man, we care for the man. Don, let's. You want to talk to our good, good friend, the Griftster?

[Don LaGreca]

Sure, why not?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Griffin. What's happening?

[Caller]

Griffin, how are you?

[Don LaGreca]

Good.

[Caller]

You know what? You know on my. My weekend warriors, Don McGraw, because he killed it this weekend in both pregame shows that he did. So that's my weekend warrior.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, thank you. I appreciate that. You're the only one that thought that, but I do appreciate it. Just to know that you were listening and appreciating it. I love that. Thanks.

[Caller]

I want to talk about. Alan said this earlier with the Jimmy Butler. I'm a Heat fan, so I know more like what's going on with Jimmy and stuff. He slowly wants to go to the Suns. He's trying to force his way to go to the Sun. The problem is we don't have the sun. Don't have. Don't have what we like. The main asset that they want to get rid of is probably Beal. We don't want the Bradley Beal contract. So I don't know how that is going to work, how he's going to get his wish to go to the Sun. I'm almost thinking there's a possibility that Jimmy Butler might still be with the Heat when the trade deadly comes on Tuesday, on Thursday, because who in the world would want to sign him to a contract extension at 35 and never knowing what. No, what he's going to act like.

[Don LaGreca]

Especially if it's going to be a place where he doesn't want to be or isn't ready to win. He wants to go to Phoenix. But listen, Riley's not going to just acquiesce to anything Butler wants. But at the same time, guys, you cannot cut off your nose to spite your face. I mean, if he's going to play great because he's still a really good player, but if he's going to show up late for practice and not be on the. Pat's not going to stand for that. But what do you do? You just don't. You just don't hand him to the place that he wants to go to and take less than market value. But at the same time, having him on the team and him not playing and keeping him suspended isn't going to help your team either. Because I think they could be a dangerous team if he plays, but not.

[Caller]

If he doesn't And I just don't know what you do, because when he's not away from the team, when he's away from the team, they're fine. But when he's on that court, he literally doesn't even try. And that's the problem. I don't want to play a guy not going to try.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And that doesn't help his value, by the way. But when the team is worse, when he's around Don, it's not what you're looking for.

[Don LaGreca]

But there has to be some sort of come to Jesus moment, right? I mean, that's one thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's February.

[Don LaGreca]

You know, most players don't want to be playing this time anyway. But if he's not going to get traded, we get past the deadline, he doesn't go anywhere. How does it behoove him to continue to be a problem? You know what, you hate it there. But just, you know, put your head down, play the best you can, try to make a run and then see what can happen during the off season. How would it behoove him after the deadline when he's not dealt to still be a problem?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's. Let's go to test who's been on hold for a while in West Caldwell.

[Caller]

Hey, guys. How are you? So, Peter, half of my family is Commander fans. You know, it makes. It hurts my stomach. They're like so excited for you that number one, you join the girl. The girl club as a dad. And it's like they're like, oh my God, imagine his baby and all the cute Commander stuff. That the only time I think seeing the commanders for the smile because I'm pretty sure Mario's gonna look amazing in all his Commander.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, she's already. I know.

[Caller]

I'm just like. But then it is gonna be cute. But you gotta make sure you get her like a cute little jersey dress and a cute little jersey romper. I put my daughters in those. Those are like the cutest things. So even when we were losing and she had that on, I couldn't take it because it was. She just looks so cute. So you gotta make sure you get that. It's like these jersey.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, you know, we had the website. It's like we had something blow up in our face though, which is that the day of the Eagles game, the outfit I put her in was a Commander's onesie that said it's sort of like Bart Simpson writing on the chalkboard. It was like it written on her thing. It said, I won't on game day. I won't nap on game day. And guess what? She would not nap on game day. So it. It ended up blowing up in our face. But anyways, Tessa, you had something on the Knicks today.

[Caller]

Oh, yeah. Because, you know, Ally, you know, he escaped. But you know, one thing about Allen is this. You know, he makes excuses for his team, jets and Nick. It's okay, though. He don't want to admit it. But all excuses he was making, talking about some old. They were this, they were that. No, look, that's LeBron's house when it comes to the Garden, like, he will not lose. Like you say, LeBron was taking IVs, double vitamin C. He was doing whatever it take to. He was not gonna lose that game. And it's like, that's what I'll be saying about LeBron. Like, he is, like, the greatest. Like, it doesn't matter. Y'all know how much I love LeBron. He is, like, the absolute greatest. Like, the show he put on. That's why, as much as I am a huge wrestling fan, I have to agree with you guys. He definitely was the ultimate warrior this weekend. Even though, by the way, you know, that was my favorite wrestler. Peter, the Ultimate Warrior, ult Warrior, and Undertaker 1A, 1B. But anyway, he definitely was the ultimate warrior this weekend. Don, I have to agree, because this man put on a show, a triple double at 40 years old, and for me, he is actually a little bit higher, higherly ranked than Tom Brady, because even though Tom was 44, still doing the thing, he's not doing all of that running around getting his body banged up and doing what LeBron is doing. LeBron is just amazing. And then I couldn't even all the way. Just, like, my bandwidth of my brain, like, went dead when they traded Luca. And I'm gonna be honest with you, I think Kyrie world is flat. So I think that. I think Kyrie did have something to do with that. I think Kyrie was putting whispers in, like, get AD. Get AD. All kind of to get LeBron back. Because I just don't see how, you know, they said, oh, they want to play with each other. When. When did guys. When did they ever play together? Like, how does he know him so well? Kyrie's up to something, but I'm really not happy about that trade because at the end of the day, Luca does have issues. And I think Luca, as much of an amazing, dynamic player he was. I really feel like Luca was thinking he's going to do whatever the heck he wanted to do. He wasn't listening all of that. Now, you're right. If he had to go to any. With any superstar, that can probably whip him into shape. I do feel it's like LeBron and I do feel like he's going to kind of be on like a revenge tour. So I can see as being competitive for something like deep playoff run this year or something. If Luka can get it together, what do you guys think?

[Don LaGreca]

Well, definitely for this year. Now, what happens with Luka when it becomes his team and LeBron leaves now, when is that going to be at the end of the year, at the end of next year? I don't know. But is he ready to take over that team? Because it was never his team in Dallas. Now it's going to be his team with the Lakers after LeBron leaves. But yeah, Kyrie had to have something to do with the Peter, maybe, maybe not demanding it, but they had to run it by him saying, you, who do you want to play with that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's the thing. That's what I'm saying. If Kyrie is going to be the guy who's left, meaning he's your superstar, two superstars. The one you're staying with is Kyrie Irving, who you believe can help take you to the promised land. You're going to not tell him we're making a major change. Your running mates no longer going to be the guy you went to the finals with last year. Were bringing in the oft injured guy from la. How do you come on? He. At some point they had to run that by him.

[Don LaGreca]

And I thought about this for a while, getting back to the Knicks. I thought about this on Saturday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

Nationally televised game, Madison Square Garden, LeBron James, that's going to motivate him to play. I wonder, does Madison Square Garden become more of a detriment to the Knicks than help? Because there's something about that building. There's. All the buildings are gone now, right? The old Chicago Stadium's gone. Boston Gardens is gone. I mean, this is it. And this is the one place, it's the mecca, where you're not going to catch somebody on their off night. Especially you put the game on national television. Like, if you're any other team taking on the Lakers on a Tuesday, you know, you're not going to get a motivated LeBron. You get a motivated LeBron because it's national television and it's at the Garden. Like I keep hearing that, you know, whether it's Jordan's double nickel, you know, Kobe lighting them up about, you know, a decade ago, it Just seems like these teams come here completely motivated to play at Madison Square Garden. I don't know if there's another building.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like that I know where. No matter who you are as a team, and we've seen this. There have been years when the Knicks aren't even good. It's not even worth getting up for this team. And yet people show up completely hyped to run through the Knicks run through a wall because they're at the Garden.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, because, like, listen, Soldier Field still exists. Lambeau. I guess you get hyped to play at lambeau. But it's 1 out of 17 if you can't get hyped up for 1 out. 17 on a Sunday or whatever, a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Trip to New York. You know, if you. If you play in Phoenix or you play in Orlando or you play in, respectfully, Detroit. I mean, coming to New York is a fun. You're going to a good restaurant, you're gonna, you know, you're playing in front of big celebs. And then the feel of that building is really intense. Plus, it's sold out. No matter what is going on. That's a. It's a really good point. Let's go to Mr. Ray in Connecticut. What up, man?

[Caller]

Hey, what's going on, fellas? And, you know, just excited for the new era for you guys.

[Don LaGreca]

Thank you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thanks, man.

[Caller]

You know, it's an honor creating the song. I don't know if you heard it yet, Pete, but they actually played it sometime a week and a half ago. I made a little submission for the theme song, so I hope you get a chance to check it out. Kind of did a, you know, just an homage to. To Don loving rock and you and Alan loving 90s era. So that was kind of my way of thinking. But, you know, again, I hope you get to listen to it and I hope you dig it. Maybe we can make something happen. For sure. Uh, just, uh, two quick points, uh, about the Luca trade. Was trying to think, definitely one of a kind. Never, never thought that that would happen. But I actually think that the closest thing that would have, and it didn't even happen, would have been back in the day before our time, Joe DiMaggio and Ted Williams, if they would have been traded. But that never happened. So to me, that would have probably been the closest thing to what happened over the weekend. And then finally to LeBron. Even though I do think he is going to stay in la. If for some reason there's a fallout and he wants to leave and he thought about New York, I would Think that, you know, OG and Mitchell depending on their play and if they're healthy, maybe that with a few unprotected picks, maybe that could get him over there. What do you guys think?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Perhaps.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And by the way, this is such a. Don, I've been thinking about and thank you for the call, man. I want. Hold on. Before anything else, can we, Can I hear the song? Anthony, is this worth hearing? Don, you heard this already?

[Don LaGreca]

Yes.

[Caller]

Here we go. ESPN Radio, D HR Show. Here we go. ESPN Radio Afternoon Drive. 8:80 on the dial. Talking Everything Sports, New York and All around with Don Lagra, aka the People's Champ. Just waiting patiently for his next epic rant. Alan Han with his insight, dropping many gems any sport, rest assured. Han Solo going in. Peter with ENN impersonation. So comedic while the R is for Rosenberg is also for the reason that we all tuning in right here. And right now it's the DHR show. It's about to go down. It's the DHR show. Here we go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, I'm not mad at this.

[Don LaGreca]

No good, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what I like about it is first of all, it's an interesting sound. It's not just a straight up like 90s boom bap sound. It's kind of got its own mix, as he said. And I like that the things he said about us were so specific, like respectfully, to the other one. I really like that guy too. But he kind of uses a lot of the, like we're getting phone calls and all the hot sports topics. It's like, well, that's literally any sports talk radio show on planet Earth. You see what I'm saying, Don?

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, I was very good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I, I like that this one really tapped into our specifics. I, I might put that one towards the front of the pack.

[Don LaGreca]

No, I really like that. I, I don't like his, you know, Ted Williams for Joe DiMaggio. I can't put these players on that level. And can you now? I mean, listen, we're talking about two of the all time greatest ever played baseball. Even Adam Schefter last night tweeted an NFL equivalent, the Ravens trading Lamar Jackson to the Bengals for Joe Burrow. I can't even go there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not, it's not quite there either.

[Don LaGreca]

It's not quite there either. Listen, it's big though. Two big names. But you know, Anthony Davis wasn't even the best player on his team.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, so how about this, Don? Exactly. I'll say this. If the trade had been. They're on the same team. But I'm just throwing out names, right. If the trade had been like Kyrie for Luka Doncic, then maybe I'm having more about that conversation, because historically, at this moment, Kyrie would be above Luca and Anthony Davis, like Kyrie, we all believe, is one of the literal most talented point guards to ever pick up a basketball. Like, I think you can start getting Kyrie irving in a DiMaggio Williams sort of conversation before you could Don Judic at this moment or Davis. So, like, they're both fantastic, though. It's. But it is a step back from that. But I also saw, you know, but it's above the Mookie Bets trade, You know, Bets and Verdugo or anything like that.

[Don LaGreca]

There's no equivalent. But. But again, you just had a top five where Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow were in your top five. Actually in your top three.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, exactly.

[Don LaGreca]

You would. There was no top five in the NBA that it would have Luka and Anthony Davis in the top five.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Luka would probably be there.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. But not Davis.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Davis would be outside of it. Right. So who could it have been for? Who could it have been for Luca, straight up. How about if it was Luca for Giannis?

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, now you're talking.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now we're taught. Now you're talking highest level imaginable. If it's Doncic for Antetokounmpo, that's something.

[Don LaGreca]

And then Giannis, you know, said something kind of uncomfortable about, you know, players wanting to go to certain levels, markets. Like, that's something the NBA doesn't want to hear, because now we're having that super team conversation again. And everybody wanted to play for the Lakers. Everybody wanted to play for the Knicks, although it never seems to happen for the Knicks. Right. Maybe. Maybe it'll change now that they seem to have all their ducks in a row. But, you know, but this. This was not an example of Luca wanting to get dealt to the Lakers. It was the Dallas wanting to trade them there. So. But yeah, that would be kind of the equivalent. So what would be the hockey equivalent, Anthony, you get. Would be, you know, you're talking about, like, top. It's not even. Because Luke will be in the top five. So if ranting.

[Caller]

If ranting. If ranting in was for Aho as opposed to what it was. Are we close.

[Don LaGreca]

Again?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is it. I mean, as a complete outsider, Ranton's on that level.

[Caller]

Probably not top 15. No, no. I'm just going with the trades that.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm talking a top five player for a top 15 player.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don Jua was a wa. Was a trade. No.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. But nobody went back to Montreal.

[Alan Hahn]

I think I got it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That was close. Okay.

[Don LaGreca]

Was that significant? So this would be. I don't know what. Nathan McKinnon for Victor Headman.

[Caller]

Dry Seidel for Marner.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. So that's what we're talking about. Will be the baseball equivalent. This would be top five baseball player.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Would be right now.

[Don LaGreca]

Because you get like Mike Trout. For who?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's Trout. It's Trout.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, yeah. No, that. That's. Somebody actually had that on Twitter. Like Trout for Soto.

[Caller]

Yeah, that's about right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Although is Soto. So what? Sodo Soto's Doncic. I'm down for Soto being Doncic.

[Don LaGreca]

And Trout is a great player, but, you know. But how old is Trout now? He's got to be 30, right? Yeah, so that. That would be. That. That's a good one. But, you know, Joe DiMaggio and Ted Williams. Listen, you just wrote a good song, but come back to me on this. When you think about businesses that are selling through the roof, like aloe or Allbirds or skims, sure, you think about a great product, a cool brand, and brilliant marketing. But an often overlooked secret is actually the businesses behind the business making, selling, and for shoppers, buying. Simple. For millions of businesses, that business is Shopify. Nobody does selling better than Shopify. Home of the number one checkout on the planet. And the not so secret secret with shop pay that boosts conversions up to 50%, meaning way less carts going abandoned and way more sales going. So if you're into growing your business, your commerce platform better be ready to sell wherever your customers are scrolling or strolling on the web, in your store, in their feed, and everywhere in between. The secret's out. Businesses that want to grow, grow with Shopify. Upgrade your business and get the same checkout untucket uses. Sign up for your $1 per month trial period at shopify.comshall lowercase. Go to shopify.comnetwork to upgrade your selling today. Shopify.comNetwork TaxAct knows filing taxes can be confusing.

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Just subscribe to us where everybody you get your podcast. Listen, this is one of my all time favorite beats. Oh, so good. But listen, we haven't got much time to talk about it. But Don, the equivalent of what happened last night at the Grammys where Kendrick gets a clean sweep of every rap category, basically that he was nominated for every song category he swept and the entire Grammys singing along to his song, dissing Drake, there's like no equivalent to how big. Like, I don't want to say it's like Buster Douglas knocking out Tyson because Kendrick Lamar was no Buster Douglas, certainly. You know what it's more like? It's more like Holyfield beating Tyson, which if you recall, Don, when Holyfield beat Tyson in the first one, obviously Holyfield was already seen as a great fighter and that had been a fight people had been waiting for, but it was still a distinctly huge upset. But it's like, it's like as if it just continued on for six months. That's the thing that makes it impossible to compare. Just keeps going.

[Don LaGreca]

Never mind the upset part, but just an entire industry siding with your enemy. It's the entire industry, everybody singing the song, dissing you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's. Well, and he, he made these mistakes. I mean, the Drake, whoever was advising Drake, Don, it's like they kept coming up with one awful idea after another. Like one person goes, hey, this is early on in the battle. Hey, hey, I understand you and Kendrick are getting after. Seems like you, you really want to battle him. Here's what you should do. You should try to taunt him and get him to respond. And here's the thing, he's a West coast artist. You should do AI and do an AI version of Tupac talking about him. That would be a great idea. And Drake's like, really? You think AI I should impersonate one of the most beloved, tragically struck down artists in history, who represents, even though he's not from la, represents that area. I think that's a good Idea. Oh, yeah, buddy. That's gonna play out great. They did that. The. It blew up terribly. Then they're like, you know what else you should do? Bring up Kendrick's personal life. Talk about his wife and his kids. I'm sure there's nothing he could say about you that'll be close to as offensive as that. And Kendrick, of course, then goes much further than that. And then lastly, when all else fails, you know what you should do? Sue him. I think that's really gonna come off well. That's gonna help your street cred. Sue him. And Don, last night during the awards, the head of his label, label Universal, which is Lucy and Grange, they showed him over and over again. It's like you were just saying. It's like everybody was in cahoots to be against him. Now because he's made so many enemies along the way, It's. I feel bad for him at this point. How bad. And l. It is.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. I've never seen anything like it before because, listen, I don't know enough about, you know, the two in the history and all that stuff. And I know some of the music, but, like, I just can't put myself in that situation where entire industry is rooting against me. An entire industry is celebrating the guy that I'm in a rivalry with. There isn't anybody that wants to take my side.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It does it. Not really. And by the way, Don, keep in mind, last night was the surprise everybody was waiting for next Sunday when Kendrick's super bowl halftime, that was supposed to be the moment. So Drake is currently on a tour in Australia, which, you know. Okay, good. At least I'll be gone. I'll be in front of big crowds. Everyone loves me. I could ignore it. I don't think he realized that the Grammys would be so bad. And a little tidbit that I didn't notice last night, because Kendrick did not mention Drake in any of the speeches, but he did wear a Canadian tuxedo. I did not. He wore denim from head to toe.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. I didn't even put it together because I was focused, obviously, at the LA hat on and obviously representing everything that happened in Los Angeles, which probably helped him out as well.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, of course. Because last night was a big celebration of la.

[Don LaGreca]

La Strong and all that. And he represents la, so that. That. That hurt for sure. But I didn't even. I didn't even think I saw the outfit. It wasn't. It wasn't the outfit that got the most attention. Oh, but it was an outfit.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, I Also had one more big realization from last night. I. During Charlie XCX's performance, I realized that I am confirmed. I am not brat. Whatever it is to be brat. I'm not. I'm just. I'm too old.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not Brad. It's not for me. But I'll tell you what, you know, you would like of all like the big poppy artists that are out these days, I think you'd like. I think you dig Billie Eilish.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, what I've heard, I liked. I don't know enough of it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

She's super talented.

[Don LaGreca]

All right, real quick though. Listen, I'm a fan of cbs.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Don LaGreca]

Don't get me wrong. I consume what's on cbs. But I can't think of a network ill suited more to air the Grammys than cbs. Cause like cbs, that's where they'll show a colorized episode of Lucy and put it in prime time on a Sunday. Like, I didn't think their audience really would understand what was going on in the Grammys. Not exactly the hippest of networks, am I wrong?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, you mean. Wait, are you saying. Because the number one commercial is the Kathy Bates Matlock vehicle?

[Don LaGreca]

Right, that's what I'm saying. You look at the shows that are on CBS, they're all skewed to like 50 plus. And like I said, they'll have a colorized Dick Van Dyke show episode. I got a Sunday at 8:00. So I would think their audience is like, oh my God, what's going on there?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know.

[Don LaGreca]

And there was somebody wearing a castle as a hat.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That was, by the way, what I. Jay, I like Jaden Smith and obviously I love the name. He. You're trying too hard, bro. I love Jaden.

[Don LaGreca]

That was trying way too hard.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Come on, you got to stop. And also, what. I'm not. I don't know Chapel Rome very well, but like, what. What was her gimmick last night with the whole cat in the hat situation? That. That's not. That's her thing all the time, Anthony.

[Caller]

I think that's just kind of what she does.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, but like that particular outfit.

[Caller]

No, I think she. I think she goes for the out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There stuff and clearly so intentional.

[Caller]

And when she draws attention, she certainly leaves her impact.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's just. That wasn't for me either. I liked, I liked. I love Billie Eilish. I really enjoy Sabrina Carpenter. I think she makes good pop.

[Don LaGreca]

She's very talented.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But obviously I was thrilled that Beyonce had her big night and it would have been insane. You know, sometimes they talk about that like your big win is your lifetime achievement award. More so than it is the win for that project. The fact. I'm sorry, the fact that Taylor Swift on was. If she had won, it would have been her fifth album of the year. And Beyonce winning was her first album of the year. Like, that's just an insane situation. All right, back to the phones. I'm guessing we won't get any Chapel Roan calls, but you never know. We're up for anything on this program.

[Don LaGreca]

We do have a line open.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We do have one line open, so maybe that'll be it. Let's go to Jay, who has a comparison for the trade. Jay in Jersey. What's up?

[Caller]

Hey, what's up, guys? Congratulations on the show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Love you guys.

[Caller]

First time caller on this with the new regime. Peter, congratulations on the baby. My oldest, oldest is a girl, so I know what it is. Good luck with everything. So I just, I'm a diehard Nets fan and you guys were making all.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The comparables going through the trades, and.

[Caller]

The one that I didn't hear was the Jason Kidd for Stefan Marbury trade between the Nets and the. The Suns back in the day. And I just wanted to know where you guys would rank that on the, you know, trade for superstar level. Thanks, guys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Jay, It's. It's not bad. I mean, like, at, like right now. Right now, I guess. I guess they weren't at that level yet. But where they turned. That. Where kid turned out to be. It's a fair. It's a fair. A fair comp. Well, but at the moment it was not this level.

[Don LaGreca]

There wasn't this level, but it's a really good comp. They were both terrific players. Marbury was 24 at the time. Kid, I think was. Might have been a little bit older. Kid was. Yeah, around the same age. No, no, he was 28. I'm sorry. So he's a little bit older now. Kid went to the hall of Fame. Marbury's not. Or at least not yet. I don't think stuff. I don't think Marbury is not hall of Fame. Nice player. But Davis is, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Don LaGreca]

So that. But.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's the.

[Don LaGreca]

It's good. It's a good one. I remember it at the time being a pretty big deal. What was that? A1.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I had a beautiful. I had a. I had a beautiful. Stephon Marbury sons, Mitchell and Ness. Like you, like you dream about. Ah, gorgeous jersey, by the way. Jacob, can you find the drop where Freddy Keisha says diarrhea like you dream about. Because I just haven't. I haven't heard it in a long time ago. And it makes me. It makes me happy inside. Because it doesn't make sense.

[Don LaGreca]

You got to come up with another way of where it made you happy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What do you mean? What did I say?

[Don LaGreca]

I just made you. You know, the diarrhea made you happy inside.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. I guess it's just an odd way.

[Don LaGreca]

To put it, but it is very.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Here's. But let's go back. It wasn't me. It was Freddie Kiki. Let's hear it. I went down to the first Ponderosa and I ate garlic bread until my stomach exploded. Garlic bread Fan Freddy and I had diarrhea. That you dream about.

[Don LaGreca]

Doesn't make sense. I had a moment. It was sometime last week. It was breakfast with the kids, just on my me time with them. Let Nancy sleep in. I'm fixing them breakfast, having breakfast with him. And then I started laughing out loud because I thought about Rocifer and then I said it to them and they started laughing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They liked Rosie for the game.

[Don LaGreca]

They did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, wow.

[Don LaGreca]

And. But I just. I just. I. I thought about it and I just started laughing. I think it's. It's. It's one of the funniest things you've ever said on the show that you didn't know you're going to say it a millisecond before you did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, that. That's when the greatness actually happens. Phone lines are completely jammed up. And we're to talk to everybody in our last segment next with the last call crew, because you know how we do it. But before we even get to any of that, I got to talk to you guys about a little something called FanDuel Sportsbook. You know what I mean? Because, Don, I don't know if you're aware of this, but the super bowl is this week. A lot of people are talking about it, and I personally have no way to survive that game except for making great bets on FanDuel Sportsbook, baby. And this time, you get an incredible competition with two legends. No, I'm not talking about home and hurts. I'm talking Peyton and Eli. One kick to claim the ultimate family's bragging rights. Who will rise to the moment? You can pick your winner on the FanDuel app in the Kick of Destiny. All right. It's the Fanduel Kick of Destiny 3. Make your free pick. And don't forget to tune in at 3pm Eastern and watch it on Super Bowl 59 pregame show on Fox. May the best man and win download the app right to FanDuel.com PeterAndBetWithFanDuel Official partner of Super Bowl 59, 21 and over in fizzly present New York. No purchase necessary. Bonus issued is not withdrawable. Bonus best that expires seven days after receipt restrictions apply. Void were prohibited seat [e-mail] for the gambling problem. Call 8778-Open Wire Text Open Y467 369.

[Alan Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, I'm back and game time is brought to you by Tulla Mardu Irish Whiskey because when it's game time, it's Tully time here at Madison Square Garden. Just raced back up here to the 10th floor after doing a little bit of pregame stuff and some very interesting stuff going on in the pregame, by the way, for this matchup between the Knicks and the Rockets. That's tonight coverage immediately following us right here on 880 ESPN. Anyways, game time bars by Til Mordu the original triple distilled, triple blended and triple cast matured Irish Whiskey. Be sure to grab a Tullamore Dew or try the new Tullamore Dew honey during tonight's action, glasses up to enjoying Tullamore due responsibly. So again, Don, like Anna Nobe is probably going to miss a little bit of time, but it does feel like they avoided a serious injury with him. And then Mitchell Robinson, boy, he is jacked up right now, all excited that he got cleared for contact, which is really one step away from being cleared to play. He still has be cleared to play contact in practice and five on five. And once that happens, they're going to get him on the court. So maybe not before All Star break because there's only five games left, but I could see him with all that time to get conditioning up and everything else, I could see him being ready out coming out of the All Star break, which would be like a deadline addition for this team if they can get him back.

[Don LaGreca]

And how many games after the All Star break will they have left?

[Alan Hahn]

Sly? It's, it's around, I mean it's got to be like around 30. It's gotta be something like 30 games, not many. So it's, it's, it's like ramp up, right? That kind of thing. But adding a piece like that it's every. Like when everybody asks you, what do the Knicks need? I always say that they need a defensive minded seven footer. They have one on the roster. But the concern was about his ability to be healthy and play. But that concern isn't there anymore because if he's close to being cleared, that's a big deal. So.

[Don LaGreca]

No, that is. I know it's. That's that old lame. It's like a trade. But that's exactly what they'd be looking. If you found out that he was going to be out for the year, you would be looking in the trade market for him. So that's why it makes perfect sense that you can use that analogy, because that's what it is.

[Alan Hahn]

I. Yeah, a huge one at that too. You want to finish up with some calls here, Donnie?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, come on, let's do it.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, Peter's back with us too. That's great. We're all back together again like one. Got a happy family, Big old family. Let's see. Let's go to. Let's go out to LA and talk to Jonathan. What's up, Jonathan?

[Caller]

Hi, guys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Whoa.

[Caller]

That was my 10 year old. He always, he always looks at me and you know, tell you like, well, I want to do it now. Like, well, that's cool.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is it a good one?

[Alan Hahn]

Now we have a new drop.

[Caller]

Fellas. The. The Luca trade, it caught everyone off guard. Hey, man. But I'm a, I'm a die hard Laker fan and like a week ago I had no future future. I'm like, LeBron is 40 years old now. I'm looking towards the future. We got a 25 year old year old, you know, great player. But I did my research and you should know, Alan, I mean the, the general manager of, of the Dallas Mavericks was a really close friend of Kobe or business partners. And also Rob Pelinka was always around them. I don't know, man. It's.

[Alan Hahn]

My team told that story earlier in the show, right?

[Caller]

Oh, oh, yeah. I'm sorry about that. Well, yeah, I started listening like, no worries, second hour and it's all good. It sounds weird. And one more thing for Peter. Yo, don't you think that I really thought John Cena was gonna win, man? But who do you. Who do you like if you could, since you had Jey uso winning? Do you know, probably, you know, a few predictions on who John Cena could fight? Because I'm actually going to Vegas with my son. Hopefully we see you over there for Wrestlemania. But do you have any Predictions on who John Cena might find in his last match. Thank you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thanks. Well, it's. It won't be his last match at Mania. Just to remind you. He's gonna, he's gonna go through the year to the end of the year. But the, the Mania match, I, I now firmly believe we're gonna get John Cena and Cody Rhodes at WrestleMania, which will be just an awesome marquee event. That's what, that's what you dream scream about it. Mania is matches like that. And so I'm. That's what I believe the path we're on and I think it'll be pretty dope.

[Alan Hahn]

Joey in Staten Island. What's up, Joey?

[Caller]

Hey, thanks for taking the call. My question mainly for you is you're a big basketball guy, but you know, whoever got an answer. But I'm a Thunder fan. Do you think we should trade maybe Chet and a couple picks for kd? Because this is win now right now. I. And we could do it now.

[Alan Hahn]

Why would the Sun's trade kd? That's, that's the guy they made that big move for so they could try to go for it.

[Caller]

Now they put him up for availability. That's what I just read.

[Alan Hahn]

Who, who said, who said that?

[Caller]

I don't know. Someone sent it to me maybe.

[Alan Hahn]

Either you got to tell me who's reporting it because this is the time of year where we get all kinds of like silly reports.

[Caller]

I don't have his top of my head, but what do you think about LeBron coming to OKC? We have the pick.

[Alan Hahn]

You're trying now, now, now, Joey, you're. You're a Thunder fan. So you know that goes against everything Sam Presti believes in, you know, completely against everything he's about for the James Harden deal.

[Caller]

He owes us a championship. And you know, I think this is the move to make. We have all.

[Alan Hahn]

They are not in that business. I think the Thunder are not in the business of star chasing. They don't do that. What they're doing now if you had like a, an expire, like a Kawhi situation like the Raptors had where you knew we just rent them for a year and, and we know we don't have to pay them because the Thunder, they don't have that kind of money.

[Caller]

Isn't that LeBron?

[Peter Rosenberg]

How does that.

[Alan Hahn]

But, but is that again, is that what they're about though, Joe? Like that's not what they're about?

[Caller]

I don't know.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. And I'm telling you, that's Sam Pricey. Is not like that. And so I just, I don't see it happen. Look, I, I love the fact that you want it because you want it bad. And I'm telling you, Joey, everybody's chasing your team right now. Everybody. They are the team everybody's chasing. I promise you. So, Tommy in Connecticut. What's up, Tommy? What's up, boys? Allen, Unh.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Going to defend home ice up in.

[Caller]

Durham against BC on Friday.

[Alan Hahn]

It's painful, man. Like, it's just, it's been a rough go right now like that. The bu. The bu. It's been tough.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But yeah, just obviously J.T.

[Don LaGreca]

Miller and Jonathan Quick, you know, big.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Stories for the weekend.

[Don LaGreca]

Can we just talk about Will Cooley and the style of hockey that he plays?

[Caller]

Absolutely.

[Don LaGreca]

Sending Alex Petrangelo over band box. You got to see the hit. You got to see the hit on Frangelo.

[Alan Hahn]

It's one of something.

[Don LaGreca]

Peter, go check it out. We've seen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What name am I searching for on Twitter?

[Don LaGreca]

Just a coolie. Petrangelo Just Cooley hit Vegas or something like that. He just levels this dude. When I'm doing the pre and post.

[Alan Hahn]

And it's a great hit.

[Don LaGreca]

When I'm doing the pre and post, like, usually in the intermission, what I try to do is kind of go deeper into the numbers and I'll give, like, hits and, and I can tell you I would. Nine times out of 10, he's leader in hits, like through two periods of play. Rangers have 14 hits and he leads the team. Four of them.

[Peter Rosenberg]

God.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, he just, yeah, see, you saw it levels him. I'd like him to score. He's a little bit offensively. I'd like to see him score a little bit more, but damn, that is amazing.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm telling you guys, like, we can talk about the NHL and going towards offense and small defensemen who move the puck are very essential. It's a big part of the game and all that stuff. And there's less hitting now than ever before because when you throw a hit, you take yourself out of the play and nobody wants to do that. The game's about speed, blah, blah, blah. The NHL needs that physicality in its game. It wants it, it needs it, it craves it. And plays like that. That's illegal. Clean, perfect open ice hit. When that is what sells tickets too.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's the, it's the best of all worlds too, because Petrangelo landed in a way where he was fine and popped back up. He just took a huge hit. God, that was nasty.

[Alan Hahn]

I, I, that was. That was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'll tell you what, Anthony. That might have been as bad as I show speed getting speared by Braun Breaker over the weekend.

[Alan Hahn]

This is what we're doing. This is what we're doing.

[Don LaGreca]

Listen to what they did, Alan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Look it up. There's nothing that's fake about it. There's nothing that's fake about it.

[Alan Hahn]

No, but see, you know what the problem is? What you're gonna do is you're gonna turn me against it. You're gonna turn me heel when it comes to wrestling because of the way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You'Re doing this now.

[Alan Hahn]

You're doing this is you're doing this on purpose.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All you have to do is lay.

[Alan Hahn]

Out warrior win and just go for a walk tonight. Take bear out and feel good about your victory. Okay?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know you hate wrestling. You hate.

[Alan Hahn]

You know it's bogus. Own it.

[Don LaGreca]

Coming for you, everybody.

[Alan Hahn]

Nicks and the Rockets next. I'll see you all tomorrow. Thanks for listening to the Don, Han and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know it's good. Hear more of Don, Allen and Peter.

[Don LaGreca]

Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8.

[Alan Hahn]

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