Rosenberg (1:39)

All right. And he also had a comment about. Well, Drury was asked why he thinks the summer might be a better time than now for some of these trades. There's a certain amount of teams, obviously, that are pushing towards getting into the playoffs. Teams and rosters look to get reset and do different things in the offseason. Teams will be looking at free agents and different things and maybe moving draft picks once picks are set in stone after the lottery and after the playoffs. Now, we had mentioned that. So a lot of factors that go into it and we'll certainly be ready and optimistic when and where we can. And I was looking. I don't know if I'll be able to find it.

Allen (2:21)

What are you looking for? Tommy

Rosenberg (2:25)

Fitz, Tom Fitzgerald, the general manager of the Devil, said almost the exact same thing. Is that no, because you cannot move players that are under contract at the deadline. If you're losing, you move players that are going to become free agents.

Allen (2:40)

Right.

Rosenberg (2:40)

The bigger moves. Nobody is looking to make a monumental, earth shattering Deal at the deadline if you're in contention, you don't want to disrupt the chemistry of your team by adding something overly significant. Add. You know, how are you supposed to move around the salary cap money? Do you know you've got teams that are dressing the, the E bug as the backup because they need to get under the cap.

Allen (3:04)

Yeah. For those who don't know, the ebug is the emergency backup goalie that is

Rosenberg (3:08)

making no money so that they don't have to drive.

Allen (3:11)

Yeah. A local guy. Right. That shows up at the arena. Yeah.

Rosenberg (3:15)

So how are you supposed to make all these monumental moves for a 20 game run? Like that's not what happens. You add a free agent that's got. We're already 75% through the last year of his contract. It's negligible money. The Rangers and the Devils, the two teams that basically didn't do anything at the deadline. Devils didn't do a thing. At least the Rangers did move Sam Carrick for a third round pick. And, and, and what was the other move that they made? Brennan Hoffman, which by the way, people

Allen (3:40)

are upset about the return for which

Rosenberg (3:41)

I, which is ridiculous because he's a prospect that didn't live up to expectations.

Allen (3:45)

There's no one happy with any anything like it's unreal.

Rosenberg (3:48)

Right. But, but the thing is, is that you're not going to go scorched earth with your franchise at the deadline. That doesn't mean that during the summer you're not going to take a cold, hard look and that's when maybe you can move Trocheck or maybe the Devils decide, you know, maybe we're going to. Are we going to sign Nemetz? Are we going to make a move for him? What are we going to do with Dougie Hamilton? Will we trade Dawson, Mercer? All these guys have contract, they have got term. These do not get moved at the deadline. You said it with the NBA, you don't make a Giannis type move at the deadline.

Allen (4:18)

Correct.

Rosenberg (4:19)

You make those types of moves during the offseason. So I'm not telling you to love Fitzgerald with the Devils, I'm not telling you to love Drury. I'm just trying to give these guys a break. All right? It's a lot easy to make moves in fantasy, but in reality it's really difficult to move these things when you've got a clock ticking and you've got one team that's adamant the other team's trying to, trying to do something to try to make the playoffs or solidify their roster. So a lot easier to pick up a guy that's got almost nothing left on his contract as opposed to I'm going to go pick up Vincent Trocheck and then the Rangers are like, I'm not giving away for nothing. He's got two years left on his contract.

Allen (4:55)

Yeah, he's too valuable of a guy that I know I could. If I'm going to move him, I can get more for him in the off season. When I said this, there's a lot of times where there used to be. There was an old way and I remember this because I covered many trade deadlines. The shotgun wedding thing, the sense of I got to do it now, if I don't do it now, I won't have the chance to do it in the off season or whatever. Or somebody else. I might have a rival get him instead and I can't afford that. There also was a better delineation in the NHL between the haves and the have nots when you knew you are a legit cup contender and this player could put us over the top. This move could change everything for us. And that's, that's not the case. This in these days. You had your rant earlier, Don, about just the format in the playoffs makes it difficult because you could be out in the first round, second round just because you're playing another top tier team. So instead you make these moves in the off season when you know I'll have a whole year that I could get into this thing and I know where I am in the draft. That's why you just don't see these types of deals get done at the trade deadline. It doesn't mean they're done moving though.

Rosenberg (6:04)

And here's what Fitz said. He said there's a lot of teams not willing to move pieces because they're in a playoff spot or because they're out of a playoff spot, but still believe in their players and want to give it another go. That's how I read the situation now.

Allen (6:17)

There's no desperation.

Rosenberg (6:18)

Here are the comments. Okay, he doesn't deserve his job. Another comment. I hope he gets fired and never gets a job in the NHL again. Did you.

Allen (6:26)

Do you know, Don, the comments. Here's the part I was looking at because the Islanders did make a move, right? And they actually also did another move where they because some people thought that JG Pageau might be on the move because he's, he's up and they ended up giving him a three year extension. So they're keeping him. So between Shen and the Pageau News. The and by the way, the first round pick they gave up for Shen was. It's not their pick, it's Colorado's pick. It's going to be probably. It's a like glorified second round pick and the prospect they gave up is a goaltender who's. Because you have one, you're so, you know. So anyways, and then, and then Drouin, who was on your roster, who was doing nothing, he was not doing anything for you. You actually move away from him and bring in somebody that can do a lot more than he can. And all the comments are, this is. This is amazing that Matthew Darr should be fired. Oh, are you kidding me? The job. He's done with this franchise. You're saying he should be fired?

Rosenberg (7:26)

But just.

Allen (7:27)

People are out of their mind.

Rosenberg (7:28)

Fans can't agree on anything. They all hate each other. Right?

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Allen (10:49)

Oh my God.

Rosenberg (10:50)

And then you say in the outer and I I like it. Fans are never happy.

Allen (10:54)

This is as good as the Islanders have been in a couple of years. They're really competitive. They have a really good roster. They just added to depth at center, which everybody Don, tell me about how important the depth and center is for an NHL team.

Rosenberg (11:05)

That's exactly what they need. Listen, don't, don't even worry about that. Oh my God. I'm really bullish on the Islanders. Michael K. Text me.

Allen (11:13)

Oh, oh.

Rosenberg (11:14)

He said, remember when we had Trump on he killed Alex Rodriguez. It was like 20 years ago. We had Trump on.

Allen (11:22)

Wow.

Rosenberg (11:23)

I, I took off that day, so I was not on, so I never got a chance to. He probably forgot about that. There was a. It was, I think when the show.

Allen (11:34)

No drops from that. No drops at all.

Rosenberg (11:37)

Yeah. The only thing is, he said. Because he was. It was the Apprentice.

Allen (11:42)

Right.

Rosenberg (11:42)

We had him on to promote the Apprentice, and he said someone was fired. Let me. And he. Yeah, that's what he did. Joey, you're. You're fired. But he, but, but like, what's the, what's the ring announcer? Michael Buffer. Buffer. No, he wasn't allowed to do it. No, he didn't say it exactly the way he said it on the Apprentice because. How did he say it on the Apprentice? You are fired. Something like. And in with Joey, he just said, you're fired. Like, he wouldn't say it exactly the same way. I guess the. I think it's the reverse, but I get it might be the reverse. I didn't watch the Apprentice. Didn't interest me. But. Yeah. So the one time we had Donald Trump on, I was off. I'll give you $10,000 cash if you could tell, because I did updates at the time. Who filled in for me doing updates on that day? On that day. And got a chance to. Ryan Rook talk. No, that's a good guy. That's a good pull.

Allen (12:40)

Ray Dinahan.

Rosenberg (12:41)

Ray Dinahan's not a good poll. Was that on the air? You said that? Yep.

Allen (12:48)

Ray did do updates. It's not the craziest thing I've ever seen.

Rosenberg (12:50)

I'm telling you. He is somebody pretty significant in this business. More on the B ball side. I'm not taking the $10,000 off the table because I gave you a hint.

Allen (13:01)

He's.

Rosenberg (13:01)

He's significant on the B ball. Huge following. Not Ruko. Big basketball guy, though. Huge following.

Allen (13:10)

And you both know John Rothstein.

Rosenberg (13:12)

Bang.

Allen (13:13)

Well done, Allen.

Rosenberg (13:15)

Nailed it. How about you?

Allen (13:18)

He knows a good restaurant, I'll tell you that.

Rosenberg (13:20)

I'm a big.

Allen (13:21)

He knows college basketball. He knows a good restaurant. This is March. This is March.

Rosenberg (13:25)

I, I, he can be much. A lot. I shouldn't even say much. He could be a lot. But I love the guy.

Allen (13:33)

He's such an amazing resource. By the way, this I find interesting. Our own George Sedano reporting for ESPN NBA, says Tatum not only will start tonight against the Mavs here in about 20 minutes,

Don Hahn (13:52)

he's.

Allen (13:54)

He says no minutes restrictions.

Rosenberg (13:57)

What? No, that's, this is all. That's bs.

Allen (14:01)

That's hard to believe. Well, I mean,

Rosenberg (14:04)

it's stupid.

Allen (14:08)

No minutes Restrictions. How do we feel this is going to go? Guys,

Rosenberg (14:17)

listen. Tonight or overall?

Allen (14:18)

Overall,

Rosenberg (14:22)

man, it's. It's so hard to say.

Allen (14:23)

They can say he'll have no minutes restrictions.

Rosenberg (14:26)

Yeah, right. Does it. You know, they can say it. Does it matter? But. But it makes Peter.

Allen (14:33)

It.

Rosenberg (14:33)

Does it make sense? You've got a guy literally playing in the NBA for the first time since last May. How would there not be restrictions on him?

Allen (14:42)

I mean, I know he played the

Rosenberg (14:43)

G League and all. He's going to go. He's going to go out there and play 40 minutes. Come on.

Allen (14:46)

Aaron Gordon missed the last 17 games with a hamstring. He's on a minute's rest. All right, here we go. Predictions. Okay, everybody. Amount of minutes Jason Tatum will play tonight. I'll start with Don,

Rosenberg (15:02)

15.

Allen (15:03)

Allen, 20.

Rosenberg (15:05)

Peter 23. I like what we did there.

Allen (15:08)

Yeah.

Rosenberg (15:09)

And my overall prediction is that he will not make it to the playoffs. He'll get hurt. He'll re. Injure himself.

Allen (15:13)

Oh, wow. No, that happens. Kobe. Kobe came back. He was like, came back one of the fastest to come back. And all he had for the rest of this, that season was just injury, injury, injury. And then he. I think he fractured the leg or something, and then he was done. It's very difficult to do. And to parachute in right now is extremely difficult. I'm not rooting against him. I. This is an amazing story.

Rosenberg (15:39)

I'm not rooting against him either.

Allen (15:40)

But it's. This is one of those that you're like, I'm watching with, with great curiosity. And remember, the next three games after this, this is a bit of an easy one. The next three are all contenders. Cleveland, Spurs, Thunder. All on the road.

Rosenberg (15:57)

Yeah. And no minutes restrictions.

Allen (15:59)

And no minutes restrictions.

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Rosenberg (18:38)

This song makes me cry because I love it so much. I'm gonna take a knee on my tease. Take a knee. It was comments from last year, so I'm not gonna bother. Oh, I just don't know how to read. I'm a moron. As Peter pointed out earlier. 1-800-919-3776 Last Call Crew Anthony Fairlong, you're on ESPN New York. What's up Anthony?

Anthony Fairlong (19:01)

Hey, what's up guys? So in light of that couple calling up possibly naming their son after Jackson Dart, I have a similar story. So my wife and I are die hard Giants fans. Right before Super Bowl 42, I said to her, you know, if the Giants somehow pull off this miracle, we have to name our firstborn boy Elijah Eli.

Rosenberg (19:22)

Okay?

Anthony Fairlong (19:22)

She said, okay, well come to find Out. She thought I was joking because four years later, we're having a boy. And I'm so excited, I'm telling everybody we're naming him Eli. And she said, what are you doing, you moron? We're not naming our son Eli. We're naming him after my father. And I said, no, you. You know, you promised me. She said, no, no, no. So we get into a huge fight, and in order to appease me, she says, we'll name our second son Eli.

Rosenberg (19:46)

So, fine.

Anthony Fairlong (19:47)

The thing is, I knew my wife adamantly only wanted two kids. So when I found out two years later, now Eli has two Super Bowls, that I was gonna have a girl, I was excited, but I was a little upset that it wasn't gonna be any lie. And so I said to my wife, you know what this means? We have to try for a third. We have to have a third child. And long story short, my daughter's name is Ellie, and I go around telling everybody she's named after Eli Manning.

Allen (20:13)

Nice.

Rosenberg (20:14)

Wow. I. Do you know what you could have done, Anthony? You know Eli's wife's name? No. Allie could remember Michael always say, the great Ally McGrew. So, Allie, that. That could have worked.

Allen (20:31)

Yeah, could have.

Rosenberg (20:33)

But you know what? But here's the difference In Anthony, she's

Anthony Fairlong (20:36)

11, so I think it's too late.

Rosenberg (20:38)

Yeah, it's way too late. It's 11 years too late. No, but I love the call. But you know what the difference there is? Your wife is also a big Giants fan, and Eli had already established himself. Even if he had lost that super bowl, he still was a quarterback that played in the super bowl. As opposed to Jackson Dart. I hope Jackson Dart becomes the next Eli Manning. Next Phil Sims. Next. Ya tittle.

Allen (21:01)

Right.

Rosenberg (21:02)

But there's the possibility he could become the next Joe Pizarchik. And then what are you gonna do?

Allen (21:06)

Yeah, but so what? It's still a. It's still a cool moment, right? It's somebody that. A player that at a time, like, it's a story to tell. I. Yeah, I have no problem with it.

Rosenberg (21:16)

It doesn't matter. Even if it doesn't work out. Yeah, it's all. I don't. I don't want to tell. Well, it's not telling. Tell tales out of school. I just won't give you all the details. But people who know.

Allen (21:24)

No, yeah.

Rosenberg (21:26)

I know somebody who named his daughter CLO after Ryan Clow when he was a Ranger.

Allen (21:32)

That's tough, kid.

Rosenberg (21:33)

That's tough. He was a Ranger for five minutes. It wasn't all that great.

Allen (21:37)

But. But Khloe, like, again, Jackson is a very common, typical name that when somebody says, how'd you come up with Jackson? Oh, there was a guy. Jackson. Thought we just liked the name. But Khloe, that's very special.

Rosenberg (21:48)

But, Peter, hear me out here. Now, you. You're out of the conversation. Just because of the fact that you went with. You know, you went with Jaden. That is a middle name middle.

Allen (21:57)

No offense.

Rosenberg (21:58)

Middle names are. I don't want to say throw away. You don't put as much thought in the middle name as you do the first name, because, let's face it, Maya could just decide. I'm never going to let anybody know my middle name is. Well, but can I say this? I think it's funny. When you're about to have a baby, you put a ton of thought into the middle name, and then you realize, oh, yeah, middle names don't get talked about once you're not three months old anymore. Right? Yeah. Or. Or you assassinate the president, and then it becomes a big deal.

Allen (22:25)

Although I will say the middle name is always there.

Rosenberg (22:27)

Maya, having the. The j. The creation of the MJ nickname does strengthen your middleman. I don't know if that was part of your decision process. Oh, yeah, well, my dad's mj. Well, that's cool. So there's a. There was a lot going beyond just Jaden Daniels, but I'm just saying, at some point, somebody's gonna ask you, why did you name Jackson Jackson? And you're gonna say, oh, I was. I'm a big Giant fan after Jackson.

Don Hahn (22:51)

Dart.

Rosenberg (22:53)

You know, if you name your kid Joe, nobody usually asks you, but if you. If you were to tell a story. I named my kid Joe after Joe Pisarczyk. In certain circles, you're either gonna get. Who the hell are you talking about? Joe Passarchic or Giant fans. Do you not like your son?

Allen (23:05)

Not DiMaggio. We're gonna go Matterson.

Rosenberg (23:07)

Not even Joe.

Allen (23:08)

Not even Joe Morris? Not even Joe. Joe Morris would have been good, right?

Rosenberg (23:12)

His nickname, Peter, was Patterson Plank Joe. He was the one that fumbled the football trying to hand it to Larry Zakka on the Miracle of the Meadowlands, just in case for, you know, the.

Allen (23:24)

The Herm Edwards play that didn't live

Rosenberg (23:26)

through the pain of that. And then. And then he was the backup quarterback to Jaworski when they went to the super bowl and lost to the Raiders. Oh, boy. And even though he was the backup quarterback, he can't. Hell, no, he can't. He can't wear a ring. That wouldn't be right. I gotta tell you, Joe Pisarchuk is care is catching it today out of nowhere.

Allen (23:46)

Yeah.

Rosenberg (23:46)

He's minding his own business.

Allen (23:48)

Right? Right.

Rosenberg (23:49)

I don't know. Walking down the street now. Unfortunately, I'm not made to make fun out but who would be the Joe Pisarczyk equivalent with the jets now? You'd have probably a lot of options.

Allen (24:01)

Are you kidding me? It's 90%. What's the warrant?

Rosenberg (24:04)

If you were. If you were the pole a bad jets quarterback, what do you think the consensus poll would be?

Allen (24:10)

Bobby Brister.

Rosenberg (24:12)

That's a good one.

Allen (24:13)

He did. He handed it off to the wrong team once too.

Rosenberg (24:16)

Yeah, but Bobby Brister did have. Didn't he take the Panthers to a championship game?

Allen (24:20)

I Was he the quarterback of the

Rosenberg (24:23)

Panthers when they went to the championship?

Allen (24:24)

I'm sure he once did something good. You asked me in justice when he

Rosenberg (24:28)

first came in for the Steelers. He was a thing.

Allen (24:30)

Kerry Collins took that.

Rosenberg (24:32)

No, but he definitely won. I think he won a playoff game with the Steelers.

Allen (24:36)

Brister did something somewhere before he became.

Rosenberg (24:38)

Yeah, because the Steelers to play the Chargers in a championship game. He had a 1 and 1 record

Allen (24:43)

in 1989 with the Steelers in the playoffs.

Rosenberg (24:47)

They want to playoff.

Allen (24:48)

So he won a playoff game.

Rosenberg (24:49)

Joe Pisarczyk wouldn't. I don't think they let him in a building for a playoff game. This is again the whole. I want to apologize. No. To the Pisarcik family.

Allen (24:58)

We're sorry. You know what?

Rosenberg (25:00)

They just wanted to enjoy a Friday and they didn't know their favorite New York sports personality.

Allen (25:05)

Don chose violence.

Rosenberg (25:07)

I'm.

Allen (25:07)

That's it.

Rosenberg (25:08)

But just shredding you before we wrap this whole thing. Alan, did you watch the music video that was done about all the players in the NBA named Jalen?

Allen (25:17)

I have not yet, but I know

Rosenberg (25:19)

we might have to.

Allen (25:20)

It's on my algorithm.

Rosenberg (25:21)

It is hilarious.

Allen (25:22)

Yeah, I bet it is.

Rosenberg (25:23)

Don, the amount of players named Jalen in the NBA is so insane, percentage wise. And there's a whole song about it that is going viral right now in the NBA world that's just really funny. And it kind of, you know, not that it should bother me, but it just. It's incorrect that my daughter is not named the same as Jay Lynn. She's J. Lynn. J, A, Y, L, Y, N, N, E. I know. And now say it fast. I don't blame people for it, but their name is not Jalen. It's Jay Lynn.

Allen (25:52)

I'm already on record. As we know, the Knicks win a championship. You have another five.

Rosenberg (25:59)

They're gonna have the Bull Brunson.

Allen (26:00)

Peter, what'd you say?

Rosenberg (26:03)

What the. Nick? If the Knicks win a championship, they're gonna have to bolt the door.

Allen (26:06)

Listen, it's happening. Sorry, I don't. I apologize for nothing.

Rosenberg (26:10)

Is your wife on board?

Allen (26:12)

No, absolutely not. But at some point, she'll have to get on board, right? So to speak.

Rosenberg (26:18)

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Allen (26:29)

What a weekend.

Rosenberg (26:30)

All right, Richard, we didn't get to you today, but you know what? Ty Butler's longing to take your call. Coming up next. And we'll be back with you tomorrow. Not tomorrow. You want to wait? Bye. Bye. Monday, Monday.

Allen (26:40)

Monday.

Rosenberg (26:43)

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Allen (26:47)

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sausage is made, but I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.

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Shot clocks, big shots, upsets, aces. TGL playoffs are here. First, Atlanta Drive starts their repeat run

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against Los Angeles Golf Club.

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Then Rory's Boston Common Golf and Tigers Jupiter Links face off in their playoff debuts. Who will advance? Keep up its playoffs. Tune in Tuesday, March 17, at 6:30pm and 9pm only on ESPN. And the ESPN applied.