Hour 4: Last Call Crew

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast - Hour 4: Last Call Crew
Release Date: July 7, 2025

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Introduction

In Hour 4: Last Call Crew of the Don, Hahn & Rosenberg podcast, hosts Don LaGreca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg delve into a vibrant mix of New York sports, personal updates, and listener interactions. The episode, released on July 7, 2025, provides insightful commentary on the Mets and Yankees' baseball seasons, discusses Peter Rosenberg's exciting new role in sports broadcasting, and explores broader topics in the NHL and NBA.

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Listener Call-Ins and Personal Updates

The episode features several listener calls, adding a personal touch to the discussions.

• Danny from Long Island (00:29-01:37): Danny reminisces about attending a live performance at Madison Square Garden in 1984 with his friends and shares heartwarming stories about spending time with his grandchildren. He humorously describes tapping out from the chaos of amusement park rides, highlighting the joys and challenges of being a grandfather.

  Danny (01:05): "Just back from seven days of coordinating with my grandchildren in South Carolina... I tapped out."

• Jimmy from Montclair (08:39-10:13): Jimmy congratulates Don LaGreca on his new role as the lead play-by-play voice for the New Jersey Devils on MSG Networks. He shares his excitement as a die-hard Rangers fan, comparing Don’s feelings to his own when rookie player Soto signed with the Mets.

  Jimmy (08:46): "I love it, man. I was jumping up and down when I heard the news... welcome home."

• Anthony from North Carolina (10:18-12:01): Anthony offers congratulations to Don and delves into a conversation about the Rangers' rebuild, questioning how long it will take and expressing optimism about the team's potential under coach Mike Sullivan.

  Anthony (11:11): "Congrats, man. Someone that's in this field that's still young, it's an inspiration..."

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Peter Rosenberg's New Role

A significant highlight of the episode is Peter Rosenberg announcing his new position as the lead play-by-play voice for the New Jersey Devils on MSG Networks.

• Announcement and Reactions (05:28-17:22): Peter shares his excitement and reflects on his journey, from calling baseball games off the TV as a child to now taking on a professional broadcasting role. He expresses gratitude for the support and discusses the legacy of previous broadcasters like Gary Thorne and Doc Emmerich.

  Peter Rosenberg (05:30): "Don LaGreca named lead play by play voice for the New Jersey Devils on MSG Networks."

  Peter Rosenberg (10:07): "It is a dream come true... thankful for the opportunity."

• Listener Reactions: Listeners commend Peter on social media and during calls, expressing their happiness for his achievement and curiosity about his future with the Devils.

  Peter Rosenberg (21:12): "This is something that's exciting and now it makes us look forward to the hockey season even more."

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Baseball Season: Mets vs. Yankees

The hosts engage in an in-depth analysis of the current state of the Mets and Yankees, evaluating their performances and prospects.

• Mets Performance (01:02-03:37): Danny praises the Mets for winning games with their secondary players, highlighting key contributions from players like the McNeils. He contrasts this with the Yankees' reliance on solo runs from stars like Aaron Judge.

  Danny (02:00): "You have to feel good about the Mets because at this point, the Mets win games when they're secondary Players... the McNeils."

• Yankees' Struggles (02:50-03:37): The conversation touches on the Yankees' difficulties despite having a talented roster, emphasizing the need for consistency and teamwork to remain competitive.

  Alan Hahn (03:00): "You got to ignore how we got here and look where we are... You have to be thrilled if you're a Met fan."

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NHL Insights: Rebuilding the Rangers

A substantial portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing the New York Rangers' rebuilding process and their prospects under the new coaching regime.

• Team Dynamics and Prospect Evaluation (12:01-14:51): The hosts analyze the Rangers' roster, highlighting key players like Miller, Panarin, Adam Fox, and Igor Shusturkin. They discuss the balance between rebuilding for the future and maintaining competitiveness in the present season.

  Peter Rosenberg (12:01): "There's no reason why this team can't compete for a playoff spot now."

  Alan Hahn (14:11): "Usually, Crosby, when you have... you generally find yourself... this is the next generation."

• Challenges and Opportunities (13:39-14:51): They debate the impact of not having a generational player and the potential for up-and-coming talents to bridge that gap. The conversation acknowledges past draft missteps but remains optimistic about the team's future.

  Peter Rosenberg (14:20): "Could Byfield end up being a better player than Lafour... are they Connor McDavid?"

  Alan Hahn (14:36): "They have too much talent to be bad... They do not want it to come at the expense of the present."

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MLB and NBA Rule Discussions

The hosts explore specific rule changes in baseball and basketball, offering their perspectives on their implications.

• MLB's Error as a Hit Controversy (22:49-23:04): Michael K. points out the inconsistency in how errors are counted as hits in baseball compared to other sports. The hosts debate the fairness and logic behind this scoring method.

  Alan Hahn (23:04): "You should not deserve a hit."

• NBA's "Mike Breen Rule" (23:34-24:10): Alan introduces a new NBA rule, nicknamed the "Mike Breen rule," which affects how long-range shot attempts are scored. The hosts discuss how it might encourage more buzzer-beaters and change player strategies.

  Alan Hahn (23:34): "If it goes in, it's a bucket. If you miss, it's not against you as a player."

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Closing Remarks and Upcoming Events

As the episode wraps up, the hosts talk about upcoming sports events, including the introduction of the Rangers' new coach and previewing upcoming Mets and Yankees games.

• New Coach Introduction (17:22-19:18): Alan shares details about the Rangers' new head coach, Mike Brown, and teases an upcoming interview. They express excitement about the team's direction under his leadership.

  Alan Hahn (18:06): "Mike Brown was named the head coach. They put out the press Release."

• Upcoming Games Preview (19:18-21:29): The hosts discuss upcoming baseball matchups, focusing on key players like Aaron Judge and Raleigh, and speculate on MVP candidacies based on current performances.

  Peter Rosenberg (19:48): "If Seattle stays in the race and he ends up winning the home run title... as a catcher."

  Alan Hahn (20:00): "He does have a couple more RBI than Judge... a catcher is something that I think..."

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Conclusion

Hour 4: Last Call Crew delivers a rich and engaging episode filled with personal anecdotes, in-depth sports analysis, and interactive listener engagement. From celebrating Peter Rosenberg's professional milestone to dissecting the intricacies of team dynamics in baseball and hockey, Don, Hahn & Rosenberg offer a comprehensive look into the vibrant world of New York sports. Whether you're a die-hard Mets fan, a Yankees supporter, or a follower of the Rangers' journey, this episode provides valuable insights and entertainment for all sports enthusiasts.

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Notable Quotes:

• Danny on Grandfatherhood (01:05):
  "I tapped out."

• Jimmy Congratulating Don (08:46):
  "I pray to God you get the job play by play for the Rangers because this is before they announced Kenny Albert..."

• Peter on His New Role (05:30):
  "Don LaGreca named lead play by play voice for the New Jersey Devils on MSG Networks."

• Alan on the Rangers' Rebuild (14:36):
  "They have too much talent to be bad."

• Alan on MLB Errors (23:04):
  "You should not deserve a hit."

• Peter on NBA's New Rule (24:10):
  "It won't count either. So it's sort of the same thing."

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the essence of Hour 4: Last Call Crew, providing listeners with a clear and detailed overview of the episode's key discussions and takeaways.

Transcript

[Don LaGreca]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Hahn and Rosenberg take Level 7 and Pat O' Keefe lot to talk about. Mets Yankees 1-800-919-3776. Always a pleasure to talk to our buddy Danny on Long Island. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, Danny?

[Danny]

Danny, Danny, who heard that song perform live at Madison Square Garden in 1984. We took, we took a limo in, me and eight guys. 1984, the album. Yeah, that was the last one with, with yes, David Lee Roth.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, that was quite a nice, quite.

[Danny]

A night for what I can remember of it. But yeah, those are the days. Just back from seven days of coordinating with my grandchildren in South Carolina and a similar moment in my life. God, I passed. I, I had a passing. I went from young grandfather. I was blessed to become a grandfather. 55, 54. So now it's 68 hours of water park, amusement park rides, roller coasters, lines, crying kids. I said to my son, you got it for the rest of the day. And I laid down in the lounge chair and I took a nap. I said, I tapped out. I tapped out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I tapped out.

[Alan Hahn]

I said, isn't that the best thing about being a grandfather, is that you can do that?

[Danny]

I got to say, listen, they want to go on a couple more roller coasters. I'll be right here when you are done. But that water pool takes the hell out of you because you're just getting knocked around and it's, you know, it's just, it's just drained you after a day of being out in the sun and the roller coasters, which I don't really like, but I had to go on because the kid couldn't go on. Anyways, I'm down there. I'm enjoying the, you know, the Mets, obviously both our baseball teams are in a little state of stress at this point. But you know, you got to feel good about the Mets because at this point, the Mets win games when they're secondary Players the nemos of the world, the McNeil's. And McNeil's a solid, you know, player when they contribute. And that's I think what the Yankees aren't getting at this point. They got it to an extent, but it's always these solo runs like Wells and these guys. I'm just happy that's 1, 2 out of 3. I don't care if it was against the Yankees. Means nothing to me. There were two really good wins, especially Saturdays. Was a great game. Let's just, let's just finish up strong now. Enjoy the days off. Let's just reload, rearm. And I always think of like, you have to ignore how we got here and look where we are, look at the record, look where we're sitting. You have to be thrilled if you're a Met fan. I know you finished. You know, what do you think they were going to be 20 over 500 and then finish 30 over 500. There's always going to be a little low in the action, you know, the Yankees. You know what guys, you may just have to fight this one out. You know, not everybody gets to be Napoleon and defeats every army in front of them. You know, Napoleon had won a little. Maybe if the Yankees struggle all year and put a little magic together in October, it might actually mean something more that it was a struggle all the way through and you had some doubts and that makes it, you know, you know, what's Rudy for? Remember the year the Yankees, their ratings were down on television because they were winning 107 games and they're winning by 10 runs every game. So there was no drama involved. Baseball needs drama to be, to be, needs tight games. It needs pennant races. Otherwise, you know, it's not that it's a slow moving sport. I went to two minor league games while I was down there. It's, it's a, it's not football, it's baseball.

[Alan Hahn]

It's. Yeah, you gotta, it's gotta almost be in the background a lot of times during the regular season. Danny. I mean that's, that's, that's how you. Especially over a weekend.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But did. But that's not how New York operates. And we talked about it earlier in the season. If you're going to tell me that it's a long season, then what are we even talking about it for?

[Alan Hahn]

Now we go talk about NBA free agency.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's talk about the upcoming training camps for the football team.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, you got to watch every game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We got to watch. You got to get a feel for your Team, you got to see it.

[Alan Hahn]

And that's why after 20 something.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Like when you start to see it go wrong, you know what you're looking at because you've been watching it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You want to analyze it.

[Alan Hahn]

Here it comes again.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But no, but the. The panic. Strong. But to be concerned. Absolutely.

[Alan Hahn]

Every reason to be concerned.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's go to Rob Staten Island. You're on ESPN New York. What's.

[Danny]

Rob.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's up, Rob?

[Danny]

Donnie. What's going on, man? I really just called to congratulate you. I met you at the holiday party this past year, the last episode of the Kay show, and I ran into you in the bathroom and you were super nice to me. You were nice enough to take a picture with me. And I had one minute to say something to you, and what I said to you was, I pray to God you get the job play by play for the Rangers because this is before they announced Kenny Albert and I'm a die hard Rangers fan and I know you were a die hard Devils fan growing up, but this, It's a dream come true for you and I'm super, super happy for you. But like, I really, really wanted you on play by play for TV for the Rangers. This had to be how Han felt when Soto signed with the Mets. What do you think?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow, that's. I don't know if he wants to go there. No, but I listen, I love doing the Rangers. And again, I did not know that I was going to be able to get this gig. And I was hoping, hey, more Ranger games. And Alex was brought in. Alex, Fausta does a tremendous job because he was going to fill in for Kenny because he had more TV experience because he had come over from the Los Angeles Kings. But this opened up and it was not something I was expecting, that's for sure.

[Alan Hahn]

Look at you leading the page on Barrett Media.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, see, that's a nice picture.

[Alan Hahn]

That's a better picture of you. Don Legrecke named lead play by play voice for the New Jersey Devils on MSG Networks.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm just. It's. It's. It's.

[Alan Hahn]

Does it feel real yet?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. And, you know, but one good thing is that got plenty of time to prepare. It'll be a long time before we actually do a game, but no, no, it's. It's. It's a dream. This has been a fun show. Thank you for all the kind words from everybody.

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Jimmy's in Montclair. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, Jimmy?

[Danny]

Hey, guys, how's it going?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's going.

[Danny]

I love it, man. I was jumping up and down when I heard the news. I'm a double season ticket holder. Section 16. Nice for 11. So I'll see you around over there. Welcome home. That's all I can say.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, thanks. That's what it feels like. You know, I guess that my first game was in 1987. Nancy had tickets, so we went to all the playoff games in 88. So all those Islander games and Capital games and Bruins games and all that, and, and just kind of fell in love with the team from there. So you're just so looking forward to it and just again, the legacy of all the people that have done it. Gary Thorne and Doc Emmerich, who is the best to ever do it. My opinion. And Steve Canelosi and Bill Spaulding, all great, great people. So, you know, a door opens, one door closes, the other door opens, the Rangers door closes. But this one opened up pretty cool. Looking forward to it. What else we got? How about. How about the Griftster? What happened to my. There it is. You're in Connecticut. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, Griff?

[Danny]

Hey, how are you guys?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you.

[Danny]

Congratulations, Doc. You're. You're Your mom and your wife, they must be so proud because they know how much you love the Devils and they know much it meant so to have the opportunity to call the Devils and to say that you're going to be the voice of the New York New Jersey Devils. How does that sound on it? Has it sunk in yet?

[Alan Hahn]

Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, it's, it's, it's something I dreamed of, like always to be a lead voice of a team. You know, as a kid, I mean, I'm calling baseball games off the tv. I used to always do that. I don't know if you ever did it, Alan, like, if nobody was home, you know, just like do the play by play. Like, I always was fascinated by that and watching like guys like, you know, Gary Thorne and Doc Emmerich to just follow that. And just when I would call the game, I would just kind of do it sometimes in my own head. Sometimes I would do it out loud if nobody was home. Like, no, it just, it's crazy. And as much as I love doing the Rangers, it wasn't my gig. You know, I'm just filling in. I'm filling in for Kenny. So And I. And I. There were times I did more games than Kenny because Kenny's a very busy person. I don't know if you ever noticed that. But for somebody to have faith in me like that, to do it, it's pretty cool. Very cool. Anthony in North Carolina. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, Anthony?

[Danny]

Hey, what's going on? Hey, Don. Congratulations, man. Someone that's in this field that's still young, it's an inspiration to see somebody that's as great as you are in your job finally get to the pinnacle, man. And I'm just. I'm heartbroken that I didn't get to meet you. When we went up this past year to see my first Ranger game, I reached out to you on social media, but I think I just reached out on the wrong platform or whatever because, you know, I didn't get a response. But really cool to see you get, you know, this. This opportunity. And I wanted to ask you one last Ranger question.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Go ahead.

[Danny]

So when it comes to the rebuild, how long do you think it's honestly going to take? You know, Mike Sullivan's a great coach, and I think that he came here to win and win pretty soon, but it feels like with where this roster's at, it's definitely going to take some time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, we had Dave Maloney on last. I guess it was Thursday was before the holiday. And he talked about, you got Miller, you got Panarin, you've got Adam Fox, a former Norris Trophy winner. You've got Igor Shusturkin. There's no reason why this team can't compete for a playoff spot now. Are they going to win a cup? Are they going to win the division? Probably not. But can they be an 8 seed? Can they be a wild card team? Absolutely. So as far as the rebuild and Alan likes when I use the reimagination. Perfect, because that's kind of what it is. It's a little bit of a reset. They're not bringing it down to the core. They're thinking about the future, but I think they don't want it to come at the expense of the present. They're going to have a chance to win every game. And Jonathan Quick is no slouch as a backup either. He's going to, entering his third year with the Rangers, believe it or not. So there's enough there, of course, that they are going to, I think, be a competitive team, a fun team, just not a championship team. But you're right. You didn't hire Mike Sullivan to babysit for the next coach, he's eventually going to be around. They believe when this team turns the corner as far as how long, maybe it's a year, maybe it's two. But a playoff team, I think they could be a playoff team this year.

[Alan Hahn]

And you've seen in the NHL, look, a rebuild means you're going to be bad. And that doesn't seem like that's the case here, because they have too much talent to be bad. If you get the goaltending and if your defense is better than it was last year, which had better be, then you will find yourself competing for a playoff spot. And once you get in, as you know, matchups are everything, and so is goaltending. And those are two things. At least the goaltending part of it, you know, when you have Shusturkin, you always have a chance.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's it. If you've got great goaltending, you got a chance. But again, is that going to be enough to beat out Carolina, the defending champions in the division? Probably not.

[Alan Hahn]

Is it enough that you could maybe win a series? Could you. Could you make a little noise? Could you be competitive enough that you're building towards something and you continue to tweak the roster until you get yourself back to a place where you feel good about what you have? Look, the Rangers had a little run. The window was there. It was good. But I still go back to the fact that when they had the number two and number one overall pick in consecutive drafts, they did not come away with a generational player.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Alan Hahn]

And that, you got to admit, like, that really hurt them.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it did hurt them. Now, is there. Was there a general generational player in that draft?

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, listen, Jack Hughes went and then Coca went to. Yeah, you know, that's not the Rangers. That's not your fault right now. Could. Could Byfield end up being a better player than lafinier? Could Stutzlo end up being a better player? Yes, but are they Connor McDavid? Are they Steven Stamco?

[Alan Hahn]

And that's my point. Usually, Crosby, when you have. In any sport, when you have those, that level of draft, you generally find yourself, this is our next generation. This is the guy that takes us so we can move on from the older guys and we build around this next guy. And that just never happened for them.

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[Alan Hahn]

Harvey's gonna be able to watch It Harvey. We do have some TV for tomorrow though. Don Lagra 2:30pm on MSG Networks and the Gotham app. Mike Brown introduction press conference.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

I, I will be interviewing the new coach. You. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Love it. So what?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, I know, right? You think Mayhood they let this guy talk to him? Yeah. So yeah, no, no. So that it'll be live on MSG tomorrow 2:30. Our show starts at 3. So that's good. And then we'll have. And, and I am efforting seeing if we can get him on the show tomorrow if it's possible. That'd be great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

Why not? So, yeah. So it is officially official. Mike Brown was named the head coach. They put out the press Release. And tomorrow 2:30 on MSG is the introduction.

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[Alan Hahn]

I thoroughly enjoy interviewing as you know. It's like a favorite thing of mine to do and I love doing it as a sideline reporter on MSG and, and the opportunity to do this with the new head coach. I have a million questions to ask him, of course. And it will be, you know, it'll be the first, first time you really hear from him. First time he's interviewed before he meets with the media. I think he'll also talk to all the beat writers, I believe so it'll be. We'll finally get to hear him say this is what I want to do with this team. This is what I think this team can be. Because everybody up until this point has wondered, all right, so now what they've moved on from Tibbs. What's the next coach going to do with this group?

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I'm looking forward to hearing that. And maybe we'll be able to get them on the show. And we'll have a Met Yankee games to preview. The mets have a635 start tomorrow in Baltimore, really weather permitting. And the Yankees start a series at home against the Mariners. So we'll be able to see Raleigh vs Judge.

[Alan Hahn]

As I said, now we can talk about him for the caller who said we should be talking about him now and he's in town. We'll talk about him now. Is he as good as Aaron Judge? Should he be an MVP candidate?

[Peter Rosenberg]

He should be Somebody had sent more.

[Alan Hahn]

Home runs already than he did in a whole season.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know it's crazy, but, you know, they were putting the stats head to head. He does have a couple more RBI than. Than Judge. He's got what, two or three more home runs.

[Alan Hahn]

Does he get pitched around like Judge does, though?

[Peter Rosenberg]

He might. I don't know, but. And he's got like. He's batting like 100 points less than Judge. I think he's only batting like 268, something like. Like that. But he's a catcher. That's why I think he's going to get a lot of votes. If Seattle stays in the race and he ends up winning the home run title and maybe he finishes with more rbi.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Even if his WAR is less and his batting average is less, you can make the case. Is it possible because he's a catcher, Alan, will he get some more votes? I think Judge is going to win it, but I think Raleigh will stay in contention even though some of the stats aren't the same because he's a catcher. And that's something that I think you're.

[Alan Hahn]

I do think you're right. I do think there might be some people that would just decide because of what he does as a catcher, the responsibilities, that maybe he's more worthy, especially if the numbers are. If his offensive numbers are comparable. They don't have to be better. They're comparable. Plus, you add him as a plus defender and a catcher that I could see a lot of people wanting to give the vote there. You know why, too? Judge is a repeat winner. There is some hesitation. They call it voter fatigue. There is a hesitation from some people that might want to say, okay, Judge is still great, but this guy's having a great season. It should be acknowledged. So we'll see. Yeah, he's got to keep it up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Seattle's a good team. You know, they're. But they're only six games above.500. There's seven back of Houston, so the Yankees have a much better chance of winning their division than Seattle does. So I think the Yankees better team in that situation got to do some damn winning. They have to. Chauncey and Westwood, you're on espn New York. What's up, man?

[Danny]

Don, my man, just want to say congratulations. You know, not many people get to live out their dream and no one deserves it more than you. So congrats.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, thank you. I appreciate that. It's interesting calling. You're calling from Westwood. I mean, that's where it kind of started for me, following Hockey was at Fritz Dietzel's in Westwood, New Jersey. My dad drove the Zamboni.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I, and I. And I'd hang out there after and all the kids that would come to practice would come after the general skate and I'd get to see. That was like my first glimpse of hockey when I was like 10 years old and asking my dad, why are these kids showing up at like 11 o' clock at night? Escape. Because that was the only place that they can get any ice back in the, back in the mid-70s.

[Alan Hahn]

Still like that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But so it's kind of, it's kind of interesting you're calling from Westwood because that's kind of where it all started for me with hockey.

[Danny]

Yeah. Every time you mention Prince Beetle, I always just appreciate how you pretty much grew up in the same area as me. I'm also a Jersey guy, so. But anyway, what I wanted to get both of you, both you guys opinion on this because Michael K. Mentioned on the Yankee broadcast and he mentioned it again about an hour ago when he was on this show. It was a game in Cincinnati, the ec. He said something like it's a complete joke how they're counting like the errors as hits for the, for the Cincinnati Reds.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Danny]

And. But you know, every other sport, football, basketball, the defense blows the coverage, the points still count. So I never really wondered, I always wondered why errors just usually don't count as a hit. What do you guys think about that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, because it's not a hit. I mean a touchdown is a touchdown no matter whether, whether the cornerback fell down. A basket's a basket, even if it's wide open. But is that if I hit it right to you, Allen, and you put it, you don't deserve it.

[Alan Hahn]

You should not deserve a hit. Quickly though, I, if we failed to mention this earlier, I wanted to mention it with Michael. Did you see this new rule in the NBA? Speaking of things that aren't. So I'm calling it the Mike Breen rule that when you take a heave that is beyond half.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh yeah, yeah. I saw this.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, yeah. If it goes in, it's a bucket. If you miss, it's not against you as a player. It's just a team field goal miss.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

So it almost encourages more of those. You know, Mike Breen would always go crazy about players who, who would wait till after the buzzer and pretend the fake hustle shot because they don't want it to hurt their, their field goal percentage. Well, now it won't and you'll get to see more of these attempts. Is it a big part of the game? No, but what you like is that at the end of quarters you're still going to get somebody that makes a try and maybe we'll see more buzzer beaters. So it's just a cool rule, but it's one of those. Yeah, if you miss, it doesn't count either. So it's sort of the same thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I want to thank everybody today for the congratulations and all that. I didn't want to take up as much time on the show as we did.

[Alan Hahn]

You deserve it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I appreciate Al, I appreciate Michael and the powers that be to give me that opportunity because it is a dream come true. So we'll get back to the normal show tomorrow, but it was kind of cool. We had the press release today. Going to do some media tomorrow, so it'll still be, I guess a topic. But, but really just thanks to everybody for the outpouring of support and I'm looking forward to this play by play gig. So, Alan, thank you so much.

[Alan Hahn]

You, well deserve it. It is something that's exciting and now it makes us look forward to the hockey season even, even more.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Pat o' Keefe is up next here on ESPN New York.

[Alan Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't want to know how the.

[Alan Hahn]

Sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.