Hour 4: NY Chargers Fans

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast Summary
Episode: Hour 4: NY Chargers Fans
Release Date: February 19, 2025

Don Hahn, Alan Han, and Peter Rosenberg delve into the unique landscape of New York Chargers fans, exploring the challenges and anecdotes that define this niche community. Through engaging discussions and listener interactions, the trio sheds light on what it means to support a team that isn't traditionally rooted in the New York sports scene.

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Exploring the NY Chargers Fan Base

The episode kicks off with the hosts acknowledging the rarity of Chargers fans in New York City, a region typically dominated by teams like the Yankees, Mets, Giants, and Jets. The trio discusses the logistical and cultural challenges Chargers supporters face in a city where the team isn’t geographically based.

Don Hahn highlights the passion required to support a team outside of the local area:

"I have never in my life speed away from… wherever there's gas, if there's an opportunity for gas, I take it when I need it." [10:17]

Peter Rosenberg adds to the conversation by emphasizing the loyalty it takes to back a team like the Chargers amidst a bustling sports environment:

"Like, you need to have one." [22:43]

Listener Stories: Building a Community

Several listeners call in to share their personal experiences as Chargers fans living in New York. These anecdotes illustrate the blending of allegiance in a city with diverse sports preferences.

Richard, a long-time listener, shares his journey of becoming a Chargers fan due to familial influences and personal choice:

"I've been a Chargers fan since I was little, and I only met my first other Chargers fan on Long Island, like, three weeks ago." [23:02]

He further elaborates on the challenges of supporting a team geographically distant:

"I just want to get there more. I can't. But it, it is tough to watch this team." [11:03]

Another caller, Ron, recounts a memorable moment that solidified his support for the Chargers:

"I was out there… ultimately became a man. So, wait, I just stuck with that city." [31:30]

Navigating Team Loyalty in a Competitive Market

The hosts discuss the dynamics of fan loyalty in New York, where multiple teams vie for attention. They explore how Chargers fans carve out their space amidst established fan bases.

Alan Han emphasizes the importance of having a unique identity:

"If you're a Chargers fan, this is a guy you dream for. You wanted an owner like this." [15:10]

Peter Rosenberg points out the potential growth of the Chargers fan base if the team continues to engage with its supporters:

"We need to have, like, you guys need to have, like, your own New York chapter of Chargers fans and meet up once a week." [23:02]

The Impact of Team Success on Fan Growth

The trio explores how on-field performance directly influences the expansion of the Chargers' fan base in New York. They discuss the correlation between team success and increased support, highlighting the essential role of winning in attracting new fans.

Don Hahn underscores the significance of performance:

"If all of a sudden we're sitting there in July and the building's half empty and the Mets are 20 games above .500, then I think he's got a kick coming right now." [16:20]

Peter Rosenberg adds that consistent success could naturally lead to a larger following:

"But until they prove it, people can hate. And that's alright." [50:16]

Challenges Unique to Non-Local Fan Bases

Supporting a team like the Chargers in New York presents distinct challenges, from limited access to merchandise to finding local fan communities. The hosts discuss strategies Chargers fans employ to overcome these obstacles, fostering a sense of camaraderie despite the geographical disconnect.

Alan Han reflects on the uniqueness of being a Chargers fan in New York:

"It's. It's." [10:05]
(Note: The incomplete quote suggests a continuation of thought about the uniqueness and perhaps the challenges faced.)

Richard shares his dedication despite familial skepticism:

"I just want to say I hope you guys keep on getting these calls because this is truly a beautiful moment for Chargers." [29:31]

Hosts' Perspectives on Fan Engagement

The hosts express their commitment to nurturing the Chargers' presence in New York, emphasizing the importance of listener engagement and community building.

Don Hahn expresses optimism about the growing interest:

"If this keeps happening, then all of a sudden the Chargers may become the official team of the show." [29:32]

Peter Rosenberg reinforces the need for a dedicated Chargers community:

"We definitely need like a DHR Chargers fan. New York chapter meetings once a week." [23:51]

Conclusion: Embracing the Chargers Spirit in NYC

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reiterate their support for the Chargers and encourage listeners to embrace their unique position as fans in a city teeming with sports fervor. They express hope that with continued engagement and team success, the Chargers' fan base in New York will flourish.

Don Hahn concludes with a call to action for fans to connect:

"Catch this show on demand whenever you want." [43:58]

Peter Rosenberg wraps up by celebrating the shared passion among Chargers supporters:

"Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, but I just want to know. It's good." [50:34]

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This episode of "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" offers an insightful look into the niche community of New York Chargers fans, blending host perspectives with heartfelt listener stories. It underscores the dedication required to support a team outside the local landscape and highlights the potential for growth through passionate engagement.

Transcript

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[Alan Han]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Alan Han]

This is New York.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Richard]

The best threesome I've ever heard on 880 ESPN. And the ESPN.

[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

That's more like it.

[Don Hahn]

Brownshire's in the bag.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's. I saw. So you guys really did collab once you got over some of the issues.

[Don Hahn]

No, we didn't collab once we got into our fight about it. He thought I was being too annoying about it and I thought he was being annoying about it. Once we had our little makeup after our fight, he just went crazy and did these all himself.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So you motivated him the right way.

[Don Hahn]

I went patino. See how it works?

[Peter Rosenberg]

See how it works?

[Don Hahn]

And now we have a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And now positive results.

[Don Hahn]

I think at the end of each one of the intros. Now it has that Richard drop, which is tremendous.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It is tremendous.

[Don Hahn]

Richard deserves it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what? And Richard, take them right now. Richard in Manhattan. How are you? Richard?

[Richard]

Hi, Don. Peter Allen. Peter. See the Jewish people, the mother has to be Jewish to be considered Jewish. The Armenians is the opposite. We think of the last name carried by the father ending in Ian. That makes you Armenian. So we're the opposite. Like Zach Boghossian, the goal scorer and you know, Sher and the Kardashians, the goal scorer.

[Alan Han]

He's a borderline out of the league.

[Richard]

Yeah, well, he does score a few goals. Don, I didn't understand what you told me about the hockey and the overtime not pulling the goalie. But you have to admit that's the greatest question ever asked to you by a non hockey professional. Right?

[Alan Han]

I will give you that.

[Richard]

Yes, absolutely.

[Don Hahn]

Your point, Richard, your point was completely struck down and ruined by Don. But it was a great question.

[Richard]

Yeah, I just thought of it. Peter. Peter. Listen, fellas, as far as Yankee Stadium, I'm an expert not only on sports, but on the subway system in New York. I've Been riding this subway for 55 years by myself. Here's the story. If you live on 86th and Lex, you get up to Yankee Stadium in 20 minutes. It takes you an hour and 20 minutes to get to Citi Field. The bulk of New Yorkers that go to these games are on the Upper east side between 59, between 42nd and 86th. And it's a much longer ride to Citi Field. It's 20 stop Yankee Stadium from 59th.

[Don Hahn]

I have to ask you this question. I believe your expertise on the subway. How do you know that the bulk of fans coming from the city are coming from.

[Richard]

Well, I see them coming after the games from Yankee Stadium. They get up with either 59th or.

[Peter Rosenberg]

86Th, and you know, where the majority. And so Richard, I've seen from Long island, the LIRR to Woodside and that whole, you know, dance that's packed. It's a march of people leave early because you don't want to be stuck waiting for that subway to get to Woodside. Like it is. Like that's the reality. It's. We all know the closer to the stadium you are, the more the fans that will go. So of course, the Upper east side, that makes total sense. But that, that's what I mean, though. Like, no matter what, fans find a way to get to the, to the stadium. That's the point.

[Richard]

All right, fellas, I got a point. Now this is what I'm hoping for. Secret league, okay? I'm rooting for OKC to win the championship and the Mets to win the World Series. Here's why. That means three ionic. I'm sorry, three iconic New York sports franchises. New York Giants lost Saquon because of money. New York Knicks lost Isaiah Hartenstein because of money. And New York Yankees lost Juan Soto because of money.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They didn't lose Hartenstein because of money.

[Richard]

Well, rules.

[Alan Han]

And you're repeating.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it wasn't money, though. It was rules.

[Richard]

All right, whatever you want to say. One last question.

[Don Hahn]

Last question. Go ahead, please.

[Richard]

Can you ask Clyde? Really, in a quiet moment. You're close to him. Ask Clyde. And I would love to ask him this. If Bill did not retire after the 69 season, do you think the Knicks, his team, the Knicks Walls team, could have beaten the Celtics that year? 69, 70, which would have meant the Knicks would have beaten Lu Alcindo, who obviously became Kareem Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain in a. In three straight series and the greatest three centers ever. Ask Clyde. I would love to know his answer. Because he worshiped Bill Russell and I. I don't know if he thinks.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'll ask him, I'll ask him. I do know this in a quiet moment only. Only quiet moments with Clyde. I do know, though, that the year before when they lost to them, there was like this feeling like, we're that close. We're gonna get them, we're gonna beat them. And then when, you know, they saw the news about Russell and that did open the door. It's. It's. It's only true. But I'll ask him, see what he said.

[Alan Han]

But he's. I never heard him repeat himself, Peter. He's given me that. That whole OKC Met thing already.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Han]

So you can't repeat yourself, man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just love that when I gave him a fact, he's like, well, if that's what you say.

[Alan Han]

Well, yeah, because it ruins on a roll.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He just doesn't want to hear it. Dave in Queens. What's up, Dave?

[Richard]

I appreciate it. One for. One for Don. Hey, Alan. One for Peter. Don, I love your full throttle throat when you get it activated. That's a full. That's full throttle right there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Richard]

And that's when we know Don is passionate, extra passionate as listeners here because we listen to you like scouts listen. Watch the games. We have the ear for that. That throttle is high level today. Okay, Topic. Okay, my. I'm bringing up the topic that you brought up, okay, now with Don Mattingly, right? That was only his. That was only season, by the way, guys, I'll do a Richard that when he hit a grand slam in the season, he never hit a grand slam other than 1987 season.

[Alan Han]

Crazy, right?

[Richard]

He never hit another grand slam. That's. Which is unbelievable. But then Don, when you said, you know, like, the upper decks were dead. Yeah, they were. They were. But you know what? That was a night game. That was. That's the Hearst pitch. It was a lob. You know, Donnie hit it out September 29th, upper deck, okay? Nobody was going to be there September 29th when they're 13 out with no.

[Alan Han]

Wild card, no extra wild card falling.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Alan Han]

George was going to move the team to New Jersey.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Alan Han]

It was an issue. Was an issue. All right? I'm not. And I'm not mad at it because the team, as you said, they were playing meaningful games. I'm not going to cut you back.

[Richard]

Yeah, okay. No, you're right. But we were disillusioned with Georgia at that time. And now when I see the guy's picture, I almost weep, okay? Like the chicken fingers. That Michael K. Weeps when. Yeah, I almost weep when I see George, and I practically do now. And in 1987, I was. I was disillusioned with George, as many of us Yankee fans were. Okay, so, like, you know that. That's what that was. And then, like, the Mets had like 600,000 more in 87 than the Yankees. Okay, that's not that much. And then this is. Okay, but thank you for the debate today. And then. Peter, can I just hit you with this, my brother?

[Don Hahn]

Of course.

[Richard]

I'll hit you with some basketball down line. Okay. Yeah. You brought up Stan Humphreys. He come. He was drafted by you guys, the Skins, you know, and Bobby Bessford, who had had ties with your Skins organization. He took. He took Humphreys to the Chargers and he went to the super bowl with us. And yeah, we got destroyed the charges. And I say we because I'm a charger since 1979, because Greg Nettles was my favorite Yankee in the 70s, and I saw he was from San Diego, and I chose the charges because of loyalty to Greg Nettles.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's unbelievable. That is true. Wow.

[Richard]

Okay.

[Don Hahn]

Like you dream of.

[Richard]

I'm serious, guys. I'm wearing a Charger jacket right now in Queens and I'm sipping some wine because of that. I don't care.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Craig Nettles made you a Chargers fan is one of the most incredible, roundabout ways to become a fan. No, listen, I've ever heard.

[Don Hahn]

I thought Don's wife Nancy had the craziest reasons for fanship.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know.

[Don Hahn]

This crushes that. Don't crush. Following a baseball player's hometown to find your football team is the. I love that guy. That is a. That is the most insane thing I've ever heard.

[Alan Han]

He was like a little bit of younger Richard, though. There's a lot of Richard.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's a lot of Richard there. He's got some Richard tendencies. Well, how did Nancy become a Giants fan again?

[Alan Han]

Because her mom was a die hard Yankee fan. She wrote the rotation on the refrigerator so she knew who she was, her mom.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And my mother could. Could tell stories and she would go.

[Alan Han]

To Yankee Stadium all the time. So Nancy was kind of a Yankee fan. And she loved Dave Rigetti. That was her favorite Yankee, Dave Rigetti.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Alan Han]

And then Dave Rigetti became the pitching coach with the Giants. And she didn't want to become a Giant fan because she hated Barry Bonds. And as soon as Barry left, she jumped on the bandwagon. Bang. Three championships later, she's all in. Two kids later, she's all out. That's how it works. But because those. Those 945 first pitches with the kids, that's rough.

[Don Hahn]

I made out with Dave Rigetti. I'm mortified.

[Alan Han]

But Al Leiter. Yeah, because that was. Rigetti was Lighter's rabbi, and he. He set up a meeting, and Nancy got to meet Dave Rigetti. It was really nice. Well, that's at a. At a Giant Met game.

[Don Hahn]

And do you. Do you know if anything happened.

[Alan Han]

While I was there?

[Don Hahn]

Oh, well, I mean, the whole time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen.

[Alan Han]

The whole.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, just checking.

[Alan Han]

And she. But she saw Barry Zito with his shirt off. And then there was. That whole thing started there.

[Don Hahn]

That's a drop.

[Alan Han]

And it was.

[Don Hahn]

She saw Barry Zito with his shirt off.

[Alan Han]

She was in the. We're in the clubhouse. It was. It was a really nice. I thought I was very nice about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think it was great. Of Aladdin.

[Don Hahn]

I cannot believe that caller.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's not 79. 80.

[Don Hahn]

Because Greg Nettles is from San Diego and I'm such a big Yankee fan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, you need to.

[Don Hahn]

Former Raven, replied.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Our current Raven.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, look, the game doesn't need him.

[Alan Han]

Sorry.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's a Charger now. He's a Charger.

[Alan Han]

Oh, no, he's a Ram.

[Don Hahn]

So, like, that means I love Jaden Daniels so much. Let's say Jayden Daniels wins a Super Mario. And I fall in love with the kids so much.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Where's he from?

[Don Hahn]

Southern California. So I start just rooting for, like, the Lakers, you know, like, where do I go? Like, it's. It's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You have to. Yeah. Like, whatever. His favorite team.

[Alan Han]

This is.

[Don Hahn]

It's randomly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Han]

So unfortunately, I don't know what the. What professional or even a college team comes from Nova Scotia, because that's where Sydney's from.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, that would be.

[Don Hahn]

You start. I start rooting for the Argonauts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. I become a fan of some Nova Scotia juniors team.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, there you go. That is wacky. Let's take Lavelle in Yonkers.

[Alan Han]

Hi.

[Richard]

Before I get to my point, I never thought I'd hear another Charger fan in New York. That's incredible.

[Alan Han]

Like, Cheryl Ladd mentioned it during. During one of the Charlie's Angels episodes or something. Like, what. What happened?

[Don Hahn]

How did they get you?

[Richard]

Well, well, with me, I'm. When I was a little kid, you know, the Giants had won the super bowl when I was, like, six, and, you know, everything was Giants, Giants. And I was on my road to be a Giant fan. But then I was such a New York found out that the Giants and Jets played in New Jersey. I was absolutely disgusted. I was like, wait a minute. As a little kid, my little kid brain couldn't comprehend why they were in New York Giants and they played in New Jersey. So I didn't have a football team for years. And then when I got older, kids were more into football. I was like in middle school. And then I just. I like Junior Seattle. I've always had a thing for San Diego. I don't know, maybe I watched too much these Company. I don't know. But I just said, that's my team.

[Don Hahn]

Santa Monica.

[Alan Han]

Yeah, they're not.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But that doesn't matter.

[Alan Han]

See, the zoo threw people off.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Alan Han]

With Three's Company. Because I used to think the same thing when I was a kid. Because you always. If you didn't know anything about San Diego, you knew the San Diego Zoo and the Open to Three's Company. They're at the zoo.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Alan Han]

So you're thinking they're in San Diego and it wasn't until maybe like over the last decade or so.

[Don Hahn]

No, they're from Santa Monica.

[Alan Han]

They're from Santa Monica.

[Don Hahn]

They're on the pier at Santa Monica.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All this time you're rooting for the wrong team.

[Don Hahn]

Wait, I got new. I got bad news for you, Lavelle. They are. That show takes place in Santa Monica.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. You should be a Rams fan.

[Richard]

My whole life is a lie.

[Alan Han]

And was it because of the zoo in the open?

[Don Hahn]

It must have been the zoo.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You should be a Rams fan. I believe Jack Tripper was a Rams fan.

[Richard]

I bleed bolts anyway. Yeah, right.

[Alan Han]

Awesome.

[Richard]

Alan, I called to get at you. Okay, okay. As a Yankee fan, you know, you Long Island Yankee fans, okay. You're the reason why people hate Yankees.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, very specific. Long Island Yankee fans. Like we're. We're a species.

[Richard]

Yeah. This, this, this, this elitist thing of you gotta go to the game because the owner. I mean, I'm listening. And you say you didn't go to games as a kid. Alan, you're killing me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I couldn't afford to go to games. My parents. My parents didn't have a lot of money.

[Alan Han]

I grew up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I did go to a handful. I did go to some.

[Alan Han]

They should have robbed the bank, but it was.

[Don Hahn]

They're real fans, by the way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And by the way, you also this. My parents were Mets fans. My sister's a Mets fan. My son's a Mets fan. My wife's a Mets fan. They're all. I'm surrounded by them.

[Alan Han]

So they Go to Mets games.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't get to go to Yankees because nobody will go with.

[Richard]

I gotta say it for done. I gotta say it for done. The audacity of a billionaire to tell people it's crazy. Put out a plot. You put out a product good enough for people to go support. Maybe the problem is he made his money through hedge funds and stuff, so he's not used to customer service. You know, I don't care, Uncle Steve. And by the way, I would rather him than. How. Don't even get me started on how. Because the fact that we lost Soto, George would have. George would have literally chopped his own leg off. Then lose Soto to them if he had to give them a sweet. He had to change the name to Soto Stadium. 100 wouldn't have let them steal that player away. And I'm not saying George is perfect, but just as a man, he would have given his kidneys rather than lose him to the Mets. But that's another story. But this guy getting up there and telling people, oh, yeah, I don't like. Who do you think. You really think you are, Uncle Steve?

[Alan Han]

You're not to. Be careful, man, how you talk to fans.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Good call. Yeah, that's a really good call.

[Alan Han]

You do have to really be careful. Again, I. I love the guy. I'm happy he's my owner. Don't get me wrong. But I do. I think fans, especially New York fans, get sensitive when they're. They're getting called out by the owner or the players. Like what happened with Evan Neil when he's booing the fan like, be careful, man. Yeah, be careful.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I. Again, if you're a Mets fan, this is a guy you dreamed for. You wanted an owner like this.

[Alan Han]

This is what you get. Good. No. What do you mean? This is what you get.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is what you get. You get a guy that's now, all right, I'm invested. I'm. Look at all I'm doing for you. Don't. Let's not be 18th in attendance again. Let's not.

[Alan Han]

I don't. I don't think they will, but, you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Know, I don't think they will either. But he's letting you know it does.

[Alan Han]

Kind of a bad look that, you know, a billionaire is like, hey, you got to help me out, bro.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Brody in Highstown. What's up, Brody?

[Richard]

What's going on, fellas? Listen, this pressure is unbelievable after this beginning of this hour.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Are you a Chargers fan by any.

[Alan Han]

Yeah.

[Richard]

No. You know, I wanted to say it, but I just couldn't do it, man. That's unbelievable. These guys. But listen, as a Mets fan, I'm gonna tell you I'm sitting on both sides of this thing because I am frustrated to hear the owner call people out. But when I watch the games, I'm also frustrated to see my stadium not filled. You know, it's like an hour and a half, two hours for me to get to a game. I go to a few every year, go out there with my father in law, but, you know, so I'd like to get there more. I can't. But it, it is tough to watch this team. We've been. We were begging to get rid of the Willpons.

[Alan Han]

Right.

[Richard]

We got our dream finally. And now we have the owner. Yeah, we're. We're not in a World Series yet, but we got what we wanted and.

[Alan Han]

You'Re going to see it this year. I'm telling. I just think his complaint to me was a year too early. You want. If all of a sudden we're sitting there in July and the building's half empty and the Mets are 20 games above.500, then I think he's got a kick coming right now. I just didn't, I didn't like the tone. And I don't think he should have to dip into his own money. I hate that baseball does that. They need a salary cap. I really do believe that because you got these billionaire owners that can dip into their own funds and not every team can do that. But at the same time, man, stay out of my pocket. All right? And don't. I don't think you should be rated as a fan by how often you go to the games. I don't think he's gonna be lower in ticket prices to make it easier. Right. So I just, it's, it was a really.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what's funny?

[Alan Han]

Tough thing for him to say.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was just thinking this too. You know how sometimes you get that with the unfortunate thing a player will say, if you're going to boo, don't bother coming.

[Alan Han]

Right, Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

An owner. I'd rather have a sold out stadium and everybody booing than a half filled stadium and no one really reacting to anything.

[Alan Han]

And I thought Michael made a good point is because he doesn't own s. And yeah. So his 1 revenue stream was taken away. So obviously him selling tickets is a big revenue stream and promoting the broadcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

For him does nothing.

[Alan Han]

Right. So if he owned sny, he might not even have said that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. Probably doesn't care. But again, relax. And it makes no sense for him to promote. Right. The SNY broadcast whatsoever. Why should he do that? Because he doesn't get anything out of it.

[Don Hahn]

I'm frustrated about something here. I earlier today, opened up the document that Alan filled out. They asked us at work to tell us the brand. The sales department wants to know what brands we're interested in. First of all, it's endless. Don, have you opened it yet?

[Alan Han]

I did. I took care of it during our meeting.

[Don Hahn]

You did it during? No wonder you didn't talk for 30 minutes. It's impossible. It's endless. This thing. Yeah. What are you supposed to say to this?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hold on.

[Don Hahn]

Let's see. Where do you normally get your hair cut or colored? I don't have hair. What am I doing? What gas station do you go to the most? I don't have a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You just say wherever it's cheapest on the way.

[Don Hahn]

And I need gas.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like when I need gas.

[Don Hahn]

When I need gas. Wait, you don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But that's.

[Don Hahn]

I don't have a loyalist. No, I'm not a loyalist when it comes to gas.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, do you have.

[Alan Han]

You have a location's my loyalty. If I need gas, I'm close to a gas station.

[Don Hahn]

Anthony, you have a choice of like, you're like, I'm an Exxon man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Pretty much.

[Alan Han]

I mean, that's. That's pretty much what's been in my town forever. So I always just find them. Even when I'm on the road.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm like, I'll go to those.

[Don Hahn]

Really?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

I have never in my life speed away from.

[Alan Han]

I think it's a thing for some people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but you.

[Don Hahn]

But you just made that up. No, really, it's whatever is close to you and you need.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Speedway's generally on the way. And there's like three locations that are on the way that I know either on the way home or on the way to work. I know it's right there and boom. Right. Usually has better prices.

[Alan Han]

If it changed to a Shell, you wouldn't.

[Don Hahn]

All of a sudden you're going to Shell Speedways.

[Alan Han]

You didn't go to Shell.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, if it went 10 cents, I got a card and everything. See, look at you. Card carrying member.

[Alan Han]

Well, that's different. If you got the credit, if you got the card you got.

[Don Hahn]

You have an Exxon card.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, he's got the rewards program and everything.

[Don Hahn]

Who are you? Where do you live?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Do you go in get a churro.

[Alan Han]

By the way, though.

[Don Hahn]

But he's coming from Brooklyn. You think he's driving from some town upstate, like you got to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is Exxon not a popular.

[Don Hahn]

I just. To me, it's like living in New York. Wherever there's gas, if there's an opportunity for gas, I take it when I need it.

[Alan Han]

I stop going to Exxon after the Valdez tragedy.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, exactly. I'm Vald's. It was a wrap for me.

[Alan Han]

We've had a good bounce back since then.

[Don Hahn]

Now, Don, I only go to Lucas now.

[Richard]

What do you go to? The one on 42nd street was, like, $8 a gallon.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's the.

[Don Hahn]

What's. What's the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Never get gas in Manhattan unless you're desperate.

[Alan Han]

Oh, yeah, really?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Honestly, you got to be on negative E. Like, if the car has to start, just start, like, giving messages, like, are you kidding me? He always stands for enough.

[Alan Han]

He'll get there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don't worry about it.

[Don Hahn]

By the way, I live in Manhattan. As a result, you end up getting gas cap. Happens. Yeah. The one on 10th and, like, 38th or whatever. 96.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And do you get congestion pricing on that, too?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, you got to pay an extra.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, oh, you're in. You're already in the Manhattan and you need gas. Well, that's another $9.

[Don Hahn]

These questions. Oh, where do you. What? Where do you like to buy things from online? What is this, Amazon? I don't know.

[Alan Han]

Is there any other answer?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's usually the first.

[Don Hahn]

Where do you buy clothes?

[Alan Han]

Where do you buy clothes?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Caldor.

[Alan Han]

That's the only place I could think of. Where do I get clothes for Christmas? That's. I don't remember the last time I walked into. Well, I tell you what, the last time I went out and bought clothes for myself, it was Sears.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Alan Han]

Yeah, Sears. I don't do it. Nancy does it. She likes the way I look. She knows what I want. She buys it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's all.

[Don Hahn]

God, I love it. What's your favorite?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You never just say to yourself, like, I. You know, I need, like, a sweater. I'm gonna just go to the sweats.

[Alan Han]

Just my birthday. Nancy got me, like, three different beautiful sweaters.

[Don Hahn]

That's it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You'll just wear the same thing over and over, clean. I didn't say.

[Alan Han]

I don't think there's any fashion now, like, suits. Even Nancy gets the suit.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So.

[Don Hahn]

No. So literally, what he's trying to say is what he. And I'm not. This isn't judgment. This is just fascinating.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I am fascinated.

[Don Hahn]

He has no interest in what clothes he puts on his body.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. He doesn't have a look.

[Don Hahn]

Like, he doesn't care about cultivating look.

[Alan Han]

There's things not like.

[Don Hahn]

Which, by the way, which is why it took him so long, if we're being honest, to cultivate the good look he's gotten. Because he was never even thinking about it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it wasn't on his radar.

[Don Hahn]

Not even on his radar.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Didn't even consider it. Didn't think it was necessary. And then realized, you know what? I actually have a look.

[Don Hahn]

And now he's a lean into it. But of course, he found that look in his 50s, because he was never looking, though. But imagine if he'd been paying attention. He might have found it at 31.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but, you know, then he wouldn't be who he is today.

[Don Hahn]

It's a great point, buddy.

[Alan Han]

You know what I mean?

[Don Hahn]

Also remember this, guys. One of the questions. What's your favorite fast food restaurant? To which I said, cheap burger.

[Richard]

Cheap burger. Cheap burger. No Coke. Pepsi.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, that ought to go over well.

[Richard]

I'm an expert not only on sports, but on the subway system in New York.

[Alan Han]

He's Stan Fish.

[Richard]

I've been riding the subway for 55 years by myself.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Stan Fisher literally wrote a book on subway. Yeah.

[Alan Han]

Did you know that he loves hockey and subway trains?

[Peter Rosenberg]

And hockey. Nobody better, man.

[Don Hahn]

He brought it today, though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

800-919-3776. Jacob is in Selden and wants to announce that he, too, is a Chargers fan.

[Don Hahn]

Come on. All right, enough of Chargers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We need to have, like, you guys need to have, like, your own New York chapter of Chargers fans and meet up once a week.

[Richard]

Listen, I swear, I've been a Chargers fan since I was little, and I only met my first other Chargers fan on Long island, like, three weeks ago. There's. There's not enough for a chapter. We're talking two pages. It's not going to happen anytime soon.

[Peter Rosenberg]

First of all, we had some great stories of how I became a Chargers fan in New York. You've got to have one.

[Alan Han]

I have to have one.

[Richard]

It's. It's very tame compared to the other ones. I just. I grew up. My dad was Giants fan. I hated Eli Manning's face. The guy looks like the dumbest person on earth. And I loved Antonio Gates. I'm a huge Antonio Gates fan. Just watching him play like he's playing basketball. He doesn't belong in football, but he's a man and he kills it. Yeah. But we're out here. Justin Herbert's got mvp. I love you guys. Have a great night.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thanks, Jacob. Wow. Just Antonio Gates. That's kind of random.

[Alan Han]

Coryell Chargers. They were Fun to watch.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The what?

[Alan Han]

The air. Coriel.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yes.

[Alan Han]

Don Coriel was there, head coach. And they just threw all the time. They were. They were.

[Don Hahn]

I didn't know. I didn't know all the things that we've talked about. You didn't know the phones would end up blowing up for Chargers calls today?

[Alan Han]

That's what you need.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We definitely need like a DHR Chargers fan. New York chapter meetings once a week.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, I didn't know it was a thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Send us the minutes.

[Don Hahn]

By the way, that is the thing about the NFL though. And I've always sort of argued about. About this and in the case show years, I don't know if you guys know this. Michael likes to talk baseball and there are times when I would push back and be like, yo, any football story is a relatable story in New York City because we have such a diverse audience of football fans. It's just how it is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not just Justin Giants. You'd be amazed the amount of Dolphins, Steelers fans that are in this town.

[Don Hahn]

Everything Cowboys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's unbelievable. And now Chargers, apparently.

[Alan Han]

And it's because of how bad the Giants in Justin Giants.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's correct.

[Alan Han]

In the 70. And the same thing's going to happen. You're going to see a lot of chief fans and you're seeing Patriot fans already. And there's going to be. Because right now, what the Giants and Jets are giving you, there's a generation to be like, well, I don't want to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why am I rooting for this team?

[Alan Han]

And unlike the teams in the 70s, I've got access to watch all these games. I can get the package. I got so many games around national television.

[Don Hahn]

Love the package.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

Bombas are so absurdly comfortable, you may throw out all your other clothes.

[Alan Han]

Sorry, do we legally have to say that?

[Don Hahn]

No, this is just how I talk. And I really love my Bombas.

[Richard]

They do feel that good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Han]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Catch this show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. I cannot believe this next call. This tells you now that this whole Chargers thing needs to really happen. Joe in the car. Joe.

[Richard]

Yeah. Hey, I'm not a Chargers fan, but about 12 years ago I was looking for a place to watch the Sunday ticket. Sunday afternoon, Lower east side, I think was like First Avenue around 14th Street. There's a whole Chargers bar. Everybody in there had Chargers gear on.

[Don Hahn]

But I really, I hate to bash this. Yeah, but that's not interesting. Sorry, sorry.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What are you talking about?

[Don Hahn]

The whole bar in this city, there's not a bar. There's not a team that doesn't have a bar.

[Alan Han]

But the Chargers.

[Don Hahn]

Chargers worse than the charts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's a Titans. You think there's a Tennessee Titans vote for sure. Stop it.

[Don Hahn]

Guaranteed.

[Alan Han]

I found it interesting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you, Joe. I'm sorry, Joe.

[Don Hahn]

But Joe, I appreciate you, but I'M telling you, I guarantee there's a Jaguars bar guaranteed.

[Alan Han]

James tweeted me. Says my boy Dave from Queens. Got you talking Chargers football. Love it. Been a Charger fan in queens for almost 50 years. Amazing content.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is nuts. Evan and Carmel Devin.

[Don Hahn]

Hold on, New York City.

[Richard]

Hey, guys, look. This honestly might be one of the greatest days of my life, because when I was young and I was eight years old, I played Madden for the first time and we did random teams with my cousin, and the first team I ever played with was the Chargers. And ever since then, I've been a Chargers fan and my family is Giants fans, and they've always looked down on me. They say, oh, you're not really a Chargers fan. They belittled it. And to see this support from all these other Chargers fans in New York, I honestly can't believe it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It.

[Richard]

I have friends who made fun of me and said, yeah, we have a no fan base and whatever. And especially after we. They moved out of San Diego. And I. I just want to say I hope you guys keep on getting these calls because this is truly a beautiful moment for Charger.

[Don Hahn]

If this keeps happening.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Tremendous.

[Don Hahn]

Now, if I will say this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you.

[Don Hahn]

The Chargers are random enough that if this keeps happening, then all of a sudden the Chargers may become the official team of the show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And we want to have a chapter. Like, I just want them to get together. All these people that are calling in, you should all connect with each other.

[Alan Han]

I wonder if there's a team that we wouldn't get. Anybody like you just mentioned, the Tennessee Titans. I wouldn't be surprised if there's an old Houston Oilers and they love Warren Moon and it just followed them to Tennessee. All right, like Jacksonville, maybe.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Jacksonville Jaguars. There's no way. There's a lot of Jacksonville Jaguars.

[Don Hahn]

All right, here you go, guys. In New York City, here's what I have. The Ravens are Mustang Harry's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Really?

[Don Hahn]

The Browns are Haswell Greens.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Don Hahn]

Which is on 52nd Street. The Bengals are Phoebe's Tavern on Bowery. Steelers, I'm sure, have many. But I see Hibernia Bar on 50th street and Printer's Alley in Midtown. The Bills have Pennsylvania 6, Murphy's Sports Bar and Reds Tavern. The Dolphins have Slatteries. Patriots have the Three Monkeys and Halyards. The jets, of course, have many. The Texans have Avenida 1 Pen Plaza in Midtown. The Jaguars have St. Pat's Bar and Grill on West 46.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I heard it close.

[Don Hahn]

The Colts. The Colts have Keats Bar on Second Half the Broncos have stout, Chiefs have John Brown Barbecue. The Raiders have Peter Dillon's. The Chargers have District Taphouse. Was that the one they said or a different one? Because this one's on West 30.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is. What's 38?

[Don Hahn]

So there's two charges.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There must be two now. That's nuts. All right, I think we made our point.

[Don Hahn]

I'm just trying to say everybody's got a thing. Packers, of course. Kettle of fish. Legendary. Sure, like you dream about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ron in North Bergen.

[Richard]

Hey, what's going on, guys?

[Alan Han]

What's up, baby?

[Don Hahn]

Hey, buddy.

[Richard]

Also a Chargers fan in the metro area. I probably have the most interesting story.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, so you think okay.

[Richard]

I think so. Because I was out there. I wasn't a big NFL fan until later in my life. Like in. In my early 20s or so. And reason I became a Chargers fan was because that was where I ultimately became a man. So, wait, I just stuck with that city.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait, hang on.

[Alan Han]

So that's where you were? Bar Miff? Bar Mitzvah. Okay. Good for you, man. That's a nice. That's a nice place. I'm joking. I know.

[Don Hahn]

We were aware of what you meant. You meant sex.

[Alan Han]

Good for you, man. Hopefully it's happened since.

[Richard]

I hope she's not listening, but, Amber, it was a bachelorette party, and I'm sure your husband wasn't happy about that.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, wait, hold on. How old were you?

[Richard]

Oh, I was like, 24.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, God bless. And she was married?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not yet.

[Richard]

No, it was her bachelorette party last.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Time out, last time through.

[Don Hahn]

Like you dream about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what I mean? Ron.

[Richard]

Wow.

[Don Hahn]

Ron.

[Alan Han]

So you're part of her portfolio. So when the kids are screaming and the husband is giving her kind of problems, she sits there and closes her eyes and thinks of you.

[Don Hahn]

They'll always be San Diego.

[Alan Han]

I hope so.

[Richard]

Always San Diego. From then on out, Wales.

[Alan Han]

You know what?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you, Ron. How about that?

[Don Hahn]

I gotta tell you, that is not what I.

[Alan Han]

That wasn't right for him to drop the name unless he made it up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean.

[Don Hahn]

Well, she's not here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Han]

You don't know. Did you think there'd be 17 calls?

[Peter Rosenberg]

If you're listening, call in.

[Alan Han]

Yeah. Amber from San Diego at a certain time in your life and you made.

[Peter Rosenberg]

A questionable decision, what does San Diego stand for again?

[Alan Han]

Wales.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, you know what I stands for?

[Alan Han]

Anchorman. I think the meeting was lost long ago.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Are we done with the. I'm a fan of.

[Alan Han]

I don't know, man. I just want to.

[Don Hahn]

No, you mean because you want to. Talk to David? Is that what you mean?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm wondering, do we want to keep going with this?

[Alan Han]

I don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, that's.

[Don Hahn]

That's too far. We don't.

[Alan Han]

The charger thing, I wanted to see when it would finally end.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Finally.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I'll tell you what. Ron's story pretty much should drop the mic and we should just move on. That's what I mean. You really want to close the book on that story.

[Alan Han]

That is something else, isn't it, though? Somebody listening might have had their wife's bachelorette party in San Diego, and her name's not Amber, but he's thinking maybe he just made the name up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, she did?

[Don Hahn]

Oh, boy, that's tough, man. I gotta tell you, the actually going on your bachelor bachelorette party and going full, like, dancing bear porno style. I mean, that is crazy to me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's.

[Don Hahn]

It's a. To me, that's a. That is a wild way to go. How do you come home from the bathroom?

[Alan Han]

She's not a good person.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You don't remember? Listen, how do you remember?

[Alan Han]

But I don't think that's. That was a good person.

[Don Hahn]

No, no, no, no. Confirmed.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Him or her.

[Don Hahn]

Amber is not a good person. I mean, he's not. Listen, he didn't win any medals.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ron can't worry about that.

[Don Hahn]

Ron didn't win any medals.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ron was 24 and single and was like, you know, I get it, I get it.

[Don Hahn]

It still doesn't get you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's see how far this goes.

[Don Hahn]

It doesn't get you into heaven. But. But she.

[Alan Han]

I have a feeling she would have, if not Ron. She would have found somebody else.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's what I mean. So why not Ron?

[Alan Han]

For all we know, Ron just happened to be first online.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And why not Ron? And Ron becomes a charge.

[Alan Han]

Listen, I think everything. I think Amber's.

[Don Hahn]

You think what?

[Alan Han]

I think Amber's got a lot going on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You think Amber, at this point, if she's doing that. Probably. Ron wasn't the second to last ever.

[Alan Han]

Should ask him what time it was at night. It was early enough in the early. And let's be honest, Peter, that marriage didn't work out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's true.

[Don Hahn]

You hope not.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hopefully it's before they're expecting that.

[Don Hahn]

Maybe early enough to get annulled.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sam in Brooklyn. Hey, Sam.

[Richard]

Hey, Lawson. All that whole ron story is 24. I mean. No, no, you didn't.

[Don Hahn]

You didn't. You didn't hear my strategically placed. God bless.

[Alan Han]

God bless.

[Don Hahn]

You didn't hear that?

[Alan Han]

Yeah, we don't know.

[Don Hahn]

You know, you got to listen close, buddy. I, I didn't want to come out and go.

[Richard]

I, I just want the time to tell you I'm, you know, I'm the Packers fan, because as a fan of Happy Days, that went more.

[Don Hahn]

Makes sense. It makes sense.

[Richard]

No, listen, this whole thing with cone, talking about the Mets not being there for that series against Washington, a couple of things, some context here. One, Washington stinks, right? So who are the, who are the fans coming to see?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Second, you're going to watch your team wipe the floor up with them, Sam. That's what you do. But.

[Richard]

Okay, okay, okay, okay, but here we go. The two games before that series were at Philly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Richard]

The game that they blew Danny Young, right. I mean, what's his name? The reliever. Anyway, and then the next game was the one that Diaz blew. So. So fans, maybe they were a little pissed off or whatever. I happen to be at both the Monday and the Wednesday game again for you against Washington.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You showed up, you know, I mean.

[Richard]

Of course, because you're a real fan. But two weeks before that, they played Boston in a series from Monday through Wednesday and they averaged 30,000 that series. So you see what I'm saying?

[Peter Rosenberg]

So 40.

[Richard]

It's like they did against Washington.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How many were Red Sox fans? Because they do have a lot of fans. They do travel.

[Richard]

Well, that's, that's true too. But, but I will say this too, that they went into that Boston series on a four game win streak. Right. You see what I'm saying? So, like, there's momentum there. There's this, there's, you know, so I think it's like context. I mean, I just, he, he picked that specific series.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, Sam, see, that's my point, though. There's a reason why this came up. And somebody probably brought it to his attention and it stuck with him. And that's why he went, he was that specific with it. It's not like he looked up the numbers. Somebody on his, in his, you know, hierarchy somewhere, they were like going over.

[Alan Han]

Somebody should have given him the right numbers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then they said to him, well, you know, this happened, and it stuck with him. And it bothered him enough that when someone asked him about it, he remembered his recall of it and he gave that little bit of a, hesitant of a hint of, you know, we got to do better. And there's a reason why he did it.

[Richard]

They were there that weekend against Philly because they averaged over 40,000.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The next four games, 140,000 people showed up for that series. Right.

[Richard]

So yeah.

[Alan Han]

Not really good stuff. They're sure there are some repeat customers. That is one of the biggest, like yo, yo things. You drew 3 million people. That wasn't 3 million individual people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're right.

[Alan Han]

Some. There are repeat customers. Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If I had season tickets for like the whole season, that's one person.

[Don Hahn]

Right. Who's getting counted 80 times.

[Alan Han]

And that's another thing too. Like what's the Yankee season ticket holding fan base compared to the Mets? Because the season ticket holders, that's an investment, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Alan Han]

So if you say the Yankees have like 15,000 season tickets, well, then you know you're at least getting 15,000. At least. That's going to count even if they don't show up. I bet you the Mets are a lot lower. We can probably find that out. How about that, Uncle Steve? You got those numbers? Yo, yo.

[Don Hahn]

Wow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's down on him.

[Don Hahn]

I love where he's at.

[Alan Han]

Well, questioning whether he's really a challenge.

[Don Hahn]

I like it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did you see that?

[Alan Han]

I am at least consistent. This is very Evan Neal ish.

[Don Hahn]

I totally agree.

[Alan Han]

Wasn't as hostile. But I don't need the little drop man. You own the team. Give us a chance to win. Don't start. The little extortion will come out and maybe I'll sign a player. Stop it. You've done a good job so far. Keep going. Keep at it. But I'll go when I go. All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Stamatis in Astoria.

[Don Hahn]

What's the matter?

[Richard]

What's up, guys? How you doing? All right. Good stuff, bro. Hey, first I got three things. One, Alan Han. Pleasure to speak to you, bro. Every time I call in, I never get. You're never there. So I just wanted to say it's unfortunate. It's just a coincidence. It's just a coincidence. I love the new show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you.

[Richard]

I love the new show. I'm a die hard Nick fan. So do all the good, the bad and the ugly. You always speaking for all of us. So I want to say thank you before I start.

[Alan Han]

I appreciate it.

[Richard]

Number two, I really. I'm not a Chargers fan. I'm a Giants fan. However, I did own a junior Seattle jersey, the navy blue because it was freaking gorgeous. So nice jersey confirmed. Those are very nice. I wore that a lot in the 90s, but anyway. And lastly, I think Steve Cohen's getting the heart again, a bad rap here. I think that a lot of us are seemingly forgetting. We're remembering more that he's the owner, but we're forgetting that he's also a Met fan. He's been a Met fan just like me and, you know, every other Met fan since we're kids. Yes, he's a billionaire. But I think that the statement was kind of made in jest of being a fan, because I was at one of those Nationals games. Well. And it was empty. Empty. And as a Met fan, I feel exactly how he just kind of spoke it. Like it was the same feeling I had. I remember my brother got season tickets. I remember turning my brother. Yo, where the hell is everybody? There was nobody there, and it was the middle of the pen and chase. So I think there's a small part of him that was kind of speaking as a Met fan, you know, I don't know. That's just my opinion. I don't know if you agree or not.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's interesting.

[Alan Han]

Don't call out the fans, especially when you don't know what the attendance is going to be this year. So I just don't like to be called out. Right. You put a nice team together. Let's see what happens. But if we acknowledge there are a ton of Met fans out there, if they choose not to go, you got to look in the mirror and see why. Now, I looked it up. Apparently, you cannot get information on the number of season ticket holders.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I was trying to find that myself. And they don't have that, which is interesting.

[Alan Han]

I'm sure there's more yank because again, it's a better investment on the Yankees than the match. But I think that. Dude, I really think this is. We're going to look back at this and laugh because I think the attendance is going to be tremendous.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I agree. I agree. But it is very interesting that the owner would go there and be that specific.

[Alan Han]

And I think he was wrong to do that. I have to love him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Richard]

Crew.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

Last call. Crew.

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[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Han]

Well, there are things. There are things, yeah. That I wouldn't watch on a bet.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Han]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Han]

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[Alan Han]

Is there a engagement party or something? The bachelorette party. Crash.

[Don Hahn]

Wow. I can't believe that that was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's, that's. Those are great stories.

[Alan Han]

Listen, I don't, I don't judge him. He's just a single guy trying to get him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He was a kid.

[Alan Han]

But do you feel at all bad about it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Alan Han]

Okay, I'm just asking.

[Don Hahn]

Wait, wait.

[Peter Rosenberg]

People make decisions.

[Don Hahn]

Would you feel. Would I feel bad?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Would you feel bad if you were him in that moment?

[Alan Han]

Right. Because you. There is a guy out there getting married thinking that he's marrying somebody. That's true. And not so. Or maybe she was like, this is it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I just, I just. One last, you know.

[Don Hahn]

Well, here's the question, Don.

[Peter Rosenberg]

One less crazy thing.

[Don Hahn]

Let me throw something at you though. The kind of person who legitimately, on their bachelorette or bachelor decides to sleep with someone, is that really the only time they've cheated? My guess, My guess would be no.

[Alan Han]

Or if you had said no, did the supposed right thing, somebody else would go, it's gonna happen. But no, no, no.

[Don Hahn]

But even more so if it had already happened multiple times, Don, then your thing doesn't even matter. It's all part of a bunch of stuff.

[Alan Han]

Here's how you feel. Feel guilty in my eyes is if you like initiated it. Meaning like you were hitting on her. Hey, why don't you. Why don't you have one last fling? Here, have a drink. Like if you're.

[Don Hahn]

Now you're just a creep.

[Alan Han]

You're a creep. But if she offers, what are you gonna turn it down? He's 24 years old. He was a 24 year old virgin. This is almost like. This is like the playmate Falling in the bedroom. An animal house. Right. This is dropped out of the sky.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, it's. I. It's a. It's a great episode in whatever sitcom we'd ever want to.

[Don Hahn]

It's. Listen, it's an amazing story. The Bachelorette. Literally hooking up with the Bachelorette. We could do a whole show, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

The one about Joey and the Bachelorette.

[Richard]

Exactly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's what this.

[Don Hahn]

What was that guy's name?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ron.

[Don Hahn]

The one about Ron and the Bachelorette.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Exactly. Yeah, but that's. That's what this would be, and it'd be really funny. Trey in Long island wants to make a point. Go ahead, Trey.

[Alan Han]

What point do you want to make?

[Richard]

What's up, fellas?

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's happening?

[Richard]

First of all, they be saying Michael K Show is a hot show. I think. I don't know. I think. I think this might be the hot show.

[Don Hahn]

I mean, listen, I'm not arguing no one, no one disagrees with you right here.

[Richard]

I want to talk to Alan about the Knicks. When's the last time a guard six to one under let his team to a championship?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Isaiah Thomas.

[Alan Han]

It's been a while.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're going back Steph Curry. Steph Curry. Six listed at six, three. But I mean, let's be honest. Steph Curry did win.

[Richard]

He would never be Steph Curry.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, you asked me, you didn't ask me about Jalen Brunson. You asked me when was the last time. Time. So I'm giving you. I'm giving you Steph Curry and isaiah Thomas.

[Richard]

About 6, 3, 6, 4 with long arms.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Steph Curry.

[Richard]

Okay, He can't shoot, so. Can't shoot threes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He shoots 40% from 3.1.

[Richard]

But if he's taking a three, that's kind of what you want in do.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is it at 40%?

[Richard]

Yeah. You want him taking threes and jab steps in and back you down?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is that why. Is that why he draws more three point and ones than anybody else in the league? Because you. Because you're not going to close out on him, right? You're not going over the screen, right? Like, come on, Trey, Trey, I know. I know what you. I know what you're. I know what you're setting up. You're setting up that there's no way the Knicks are winning a championship.

[Alan Han]

You're right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This. In this situation, and that's why they got other good players. But I. What?

[Don Hahn]

He hooped before? Yes, he hooped in high school.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Long time ago. It was peach baskets back then.

[Richard]

It was, you know, it was Reckless?

[Don Hahn]

No, no, it was beyond that. He played a little D2 college B.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ball a little bit.

[Richard]

No, no, no, no, no. I'm trolling him. I'm trolling.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Richard]

But, but yeah. So if you're going to Jailer Brunson, what do you want him to do? You're giving him a little space. Am I lying?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Don Hahn]

If Alan's guarding Jalen Brunson. Trey, let me help you out. If Alan's guarding Jalen Brunson, he's quivering and falling down. What do you, I mean, what level. Do you understand the level of dominance that that man is?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I, I, the point he was trying to make is something that other people that want to, like, take the air out of any nick, hope that's what they're coming up with, that you'd back off that, oh, your best player can't be a guy that's listed at 62 or 6 1. There's no way you're going to do it. And it's just like, well, there's a reason why they got Karl Anthony Towns and other players. It's not Allen Iverson. Like, you saw that Allen Iverson team, right, that he got to the finals with.

[Don Hahn]

I was about to say the exact same thing. So real quick. Allen Iverson was shorter, smaller than Brunson, not just in height, but thinner. Took every shot and willed a team with the next best players being Aaron McKee and Eric Snow. Granted, they got destroyed by the Lakers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But they won the first game, though.

[Don Hahn]

But they won the first game and they got to the Finals.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was the only loss the Lakers.

[Don Hahn]

If Allen Iverson was the best player on a team with this kind of depth, I'm just. It's a different kind of situation.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Again, until they prove it, people can hate. And that's all right. Well, this was a lot of fun. Chargers fans. The show was for you. Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, but I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter.

[Alan Han]

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[Richard]

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