Hour 4: Rodon & Knicks

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast Summary
Episode: Hour 4: Rodon & Knicks
Release Date: April 14, 2025

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Introduction

In Hour 4: Rodon & Knicks, hosts Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg delve into pressing topics surrounding the New York Yankees' pitcher Carlos Rodon and the performance of the New York Knicks. The episode features insightful discussions, listener interactions, and critical analysis of managerial decisions and team dynamics.

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Carlos Rodon’s Performance and Aaron Boone’s Critique

The episode opens with a heated discussion about Carlos Rodon's performance this MLB season. Don introduces new audio from Yankees manager Aaron Boone, which he anticipates will provoke strong reactions from Yankees fans.

Don LeGreca ([01:01]) remarks:

"So this is Boony talking about Carlos Rodon, who Anthony, in a word, how has he been this season? I'm going to say he's been very Rodon average."

Alan Hahn ([01:18]) adds:

"That's about Rodon to me."

The hosts examine Rodon’s statistics, highlighting his effectiveness on the mound despite recent struggles.

Don LeGreca ([02:24]) explores:

"He's given up versus ERA is 548… he’s one in three. He’s given up 14 hits and five home runs on those 14 hits. He’s walked 12. He’s had 28 strikeouts."

Peter Rosenberg ([02:37]) counters:

"We can't argue with him. He's the expert. He's the manager. He's a former player. So how do you quantify that, Aaron?"

The conversation underscores the tension between managerial assessments and player performance, emphasizing the difficulty fans face in reconciling these perspectives.

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Aaron Boone’s Communication Style and Public Criticism

A significant portion of the episode critiques Aaron Boone’s approach to managing and communicating with players and the media.

Peter Rosenberg ([05:05]):

"...Yankee fans lose it on Aaron Boone, because you feel like you're being talked down to."

Don LeGreca ([10:14]):

"I think the public doesn’t like it. I think they look at it and they're like, oh, he's embarrassing the player."

The hosts debate the balance Boone must strike between being honest with his players and maintaining public relations. They reference historical figures like Bill Parcells to illustrate differing managerial styles.

Alan Hahn ([12:10]):

"How can you be publicly critical of players without looking like you're piling on that player?"

This segment highlights the evolving expectations of sports managers in handling team performance and public perception.

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Listener Feedback: Knicks’ Performance and Team Dynamics

The discussion shifts to the New York Knicks, with listeners expressing frustration over the team's recent performances and perceived lack of pride.

Caller (Lang) ([13:52]) shares:

"After these losses… lack of care, this lack of pride… if Towns and Bridges know what the Knicks mean to the city and the fans, it’s so disheartening to watch."

Don LeGreca ([15:01]) responds:

"Towns' mother was a die-hard Knicks fan… Bridges doesn't show much emotion… But the pregame speech, I gotta tell you, this is not Knute Rockne. This doesn't happen on a nightly basis."

The hosts analyze the Knicks' internal issues, suggesting that the team's struggles may stem from deeper locker room problems rather than just coaching strategies.

Don LeGreca ([30:00]) observes:

"...there's something happening with this group because you know, a lot of times when you play a team like Boston… it slipped out of their hands… it feels like a team that was more like, how can you focus on an opponent and have a collective we want to kick their ass attitude when you've got your own problem."

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Knicks’ Playoff Prospects and Team Health

Engaging with listener optimism, one caller shares a more hopeful perspective on the Knicks' playoff chances, emphasizing team health and new player additions.

Caller (Jay) ([30:41]) states:

"We're coming in healthier than we have in the past couple of playoffs… I'm highly optimistic just strictly on the fact that we're going in healthy with all of our big dogs."

The hosts acknowledge the importance of team health but remain cautious about the Knicks' ability to perform under pressure, especially after recent blowout losses.

Don LeGreca ([35:22]):

"They knew they weren't going any higher than three… They had leads in these games and blew them. Especially on Friday. You were up 23."

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Final Thoughts and Audience Interaction

Towards the end of the episode, the hosts engage in light-hearted banter and listener interactions, discussing hypothetical game scenarios and sharing anecdotes about sports terminology struggles.

Don LeGreca ([43:15]) jokes:

"It's like saying, 'The game was tied.' No such thing. Score was tied."

While these segments provide comic relief, they also underscore the hosts' deep engagement with sports details and their commitment to accurate commentary.

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Conclusion

Hour 4: Rodon & Knicks offers a comprehensive look into the challenges facing both Carlos Rodon and the New York Knicks. Through critical analysis, listener feedback, and candid discussions, Don, Hahn, and Rosenberg provide valuable insights into the intricate dynamics of professional sports management and team performance. Whether you're a Yankees or Knicks fan, this episode delivers thoughtful perspectives and engaging conversations that resonate with sports enthusiasts.

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Notable Quotes:

• Don LeGreca ([01:01]):

  "This is Boony talking about Carlos Rodon,… very Rodon average."

• Peter Rosenberg ([05:05]):

  "Yankee fans lose it on Aaron Boone, because you feel like you're being talked down to."

• Caller (Lang) ([13:52]):

  "...lack of care, this lack of pride… so disheartening to watch."

• Don LeGreca ([35:22]):

  "They knew they weren't going any higher than three."

• Don LeGreca ([43:15]):

  "It's like saying, 'The game was tied.' No such thing. Score was tied."

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Transcript

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[Don LeGreca]

This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That sounds like heaven to me.

[Don LeGreca]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8:80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers. All right, 6:00 hour. We go with Don the Greco. Peter Rosenberg, I'm Alan Hahn. We got your calls. 800-919-3776. We have some, some new Aaron Boone audio booning that Anthony, who knows me very well as a Yankees fan, said that this is going to set me off.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, really?

[Don LeGreca]

Yeah. So this is Boony talking about Carlos Rodon, who has Anthony. In a word, how has he been this season? I'm going to say he's been very Rodon average. That's.

[Alan Hahn]

That's about Rodon to me.

[Don LeGreca]

That's. That's Rodin. So. Yeah. So let's hear Boonie on. On his, like, what is he, the third ace? I guess. I know there's a lot of noise around Carlos and you know, his last two starts where he gives up three run homers, but I think it's really important to acknowledge how well he's throwing the baseball too good. And this isn't like a situation where.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, we're hoping, like, he's dominating in.

[Don LeGreca]

A lot of these starts and there's no reason to think we can't keep.

[Alan Hahn]

Moving the needle to get better to.

[Don LeGreca]

Where, you know, he'll run off a bunch of good ones. So I've been waiting for him to run off a bunch of good ones for a while now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Here's what I hate about these types of takes. He might be right, I don't know. But we can't argue with him. He's the expert. He's the manager. He's the former player. So how do you quantify that, Aaron? He's like, well, you see it. Well, I don't see it. Why don't I see it? Because I'm just a yo yo fan. You're the expert. So I can't battle him. He could be completely lying to our face. How do you challenge him? Unless we find like a former Pitcher or current pitcher?

[Don LeGreca]

Because he.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, I'm watching him. The guy's awful. I don't know. I just base it on results. I don't care how great laser fast your game is, if you're giving up three run home runs, obviously on that pitch, it wasn't good.

[Don LeGreca]

He's given up versus ERA is 548.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, come on.

[Don LeGreca]

He's one in three. He's given up 14 hits and he's given a five home runs on those 14 hits. He's walked 12. He's had 28 strikeouts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Everybody strikes out.

[Don LeGreca]

But in today's. Yeah, but I'm with you. I'm always about the result. And one in three is the result that matters the most to me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, it's like when a guy's like over his last 15, always begin some good swings. We're looking at it. You can tell he's on the. How do.

[Don LeGreca]

How do you argue that you can't. You can't cause their eyes better than yours. But with Rod Don, it has felt like early in games is at one pitch and even he has this exasperated look on his face when the ball sails out of the park. And it's like. And that. I think that bothers me more. Like, I'd rather have him do the Soto. The minute he lets it go, he just nods like, oh, yeah. You know, Soto does that when a. When a pitcher throws a strike on him and surprises him. And then Soto will like, just look back at him and nod like, okay, okay, that was a good. Like, I'd rather radon like, no, yeah, I put that right where you can hit. Rather than be shocked that whatever he threw just right just went on a cross country flight. That. That's the part that worries me more than anything. Wouldn't you rather. Am I crazy? Wouldn't you rather the picture like, just not like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I left it over the plate. Instead of like, wow, that went out. That went out like. Because that tells me you have no idea where it's going or you don't know what went wrong. That worries me.

[Alan Hahn]

As it should.

[Don LeGreca]

And he does that a lot. And he has moments where he can look good, but he's so emotional. We saw in the playoffs last year, remember last year, what was that start where he was just so good and then he got really amped up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don LeGreca]

And then I just knew right there when he started pumping his fist, I'm like, oh, here we go. And then the next start. What'd he say? I have to control my emotions. How'd that work out? Not good. So it's. It's like. Yes. Does he have good stuff? Of course he does. You didn't give him 100, whatever million dollars because he stinks. He's got good stuff. Does he have the makeup, though, of a guy that you can ride, like you need to ride certain pitchers? I think Max Freed does. I know that Garrett Cole does. I don't know that he does. And my trust in him is I'm never going to have complete trust in him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And now he's needed even more.

[Don LeGreca]

Oh, my God. Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

With a healthy Cole and healthy heel, you'd have the option. All right. And he's struggling, so he'll be our fourth starter. But now he's got to be your second and. And run average north of five. I know it's early, but it's still four starts. Not good. And this is why Yankee fans lose it on Aaron Boone, because you feel like you're being talked down to.

[Don LeGreca]

Yep.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You watch every game. You see he's been ineffective, and now you're being told by the manager, no, no, no. You don't. You don't. You don't see it the way I see it.

[Don LeGreca]

But Boone talks in the media not to talk to the fans. He uses the media to talk to the players. You could hear it. He's being encouraging. Barton, I used to say this all the time. I don't know if I've ever said this to you guys. Aaron Boone is the. Like, that's the dad you want in the car after a bad game.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don LeGreca]

I don't know if you ever experienced this, either one of you, when your play in your careers as high school players.

[Alan Hahn]

What a career.

[Don LeGreca]

I would get in the car after a bad game, and all of a sudden my dad had an old ltd, Ford. Ltd. Right. Had automatic locks. Boys, this was big time, all right. Power windows, power locks. I mean, this is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's like.

[Don LeGreca]

Like, this is special.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, it was from technology of having no driver at the equivalent.

[Don LeGreca]

It was incredible. So windows, Power windows. Yeah, yeah. Now, it was a used car. It was a used car, but still, it was special. It was the first time we ever had a car like that. But I was so afraid to get in that car because the first thing you would hear, click, click. Door locks. Oh, no.

[Alan Hahn]

What does that mean?

[Don LeGreca]

It meant he was ready to talk. No music on, no radio, nothing. Just dead silence. And I knew, like, my high school, I went to St Anthony's it was like a good 30 to 35 minutes away from home. If I had a bad game, that ride felt like three hours. He just. Just, like, absolutely just tore me to pieces. Aaron Boone. I'd love to get in the car with him. Don't worry about it. You're doing great. You know what? Yes, you were two for 12. But those two, those were good. And, you know, that's the dad you wish you had in the car after a bad game. My dad's really good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Coach me in Little League. He was at every game that he could get to, and it was the same thing. He was never to that extent where I feared it. But he would talk about the bad at bat. Like, if I go two for four, he'd talk about the two times I didn't get a hit. But because, you know, and the way that I took it, Alan, is that if he just said, great job, great game. Looking back at it now, it would have felt like he knew I didn't have a future. And he was just, go, have fun. Let's encourage him. We don't want him to get discouraged by him criticizing the times I made out. He was telling me, I think you got some potential here. I think some. So let's focus on how we can get better. If we're not focusing on how we can get better, what you're telling me is I can't get any better, so just have fun. So we're just going to compliment you so you don't get down on yourself.

[Don LeGreca]

Funny. My dad was more like, you know how much I pay for this school? Why am I sending you here? Like, a little bit different.

[Peter Rosenberg]

A little different angle that he took with Marco. I'm really encouraging everything because he's still. He's not even seven and a half. So I want him to love the sport. But when I can critique him, I will critique him. Because I. For a kid that's barely seven years old, I see there's potential there. Like, I see he's got a really nice swing. And I think we can develop something here. So I want to develop that. But we'll get to a point where if he's playing and he wants to do this, then the only thing I can do is be critical. Because if all I'm going to do is just blow smoke up, as you know what, then how is he ever going to get better? And I wish that that's the way these coaches would be. These athletes are so sensitive to criticism now.

[Don LeGreca]

Public criticism, public.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I do think you don't know.

[Don LeGreca]

What goes on behind the scenes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I understand, but you also. I Think it's important to send the message to the public. Because if I'm a player and Aaron Boone rips me a new one behind closed doors and then talks me up publicly, then I start to think, well, what's true?

[Don LeGreca]

Which one is it? Not here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, is he really? And I think you just gotta be honest now. The tone doesn't have to be the same, but I do think that what you say behind closed doors, at least that message has to get out there. Because then I think it looks foolish. Like, what are we doing? You're protecting your players. I get it. And that's fun to do to a point. But if you're really gonna get better and really prepare them for what's expected of them, giving them a soft landing in any way, shape or form, to me, I don't think is a good thing. But listen, he's the manager. I'm not. So he knows a lot more than I do. But it's. I think it's. Why. Why have a press conference if it's just gonna be lies.

[Don LeGreca]

It seemed like though, he. When he lost patience with Gleyber Torres, that's when he finally, you heard, a little more public.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But that was an effort thing, right? Not like busting it down the first baseline.

[Don LeGreca]

I think he also knew that everybody sees it. So I can't sugarcoat this. Everybody sees it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think Boone got ticked. Like, listen, I've protected you, and you're going out there and still doing the same thing. I can't protect you anymore. Cause now you're making me look like an ass. And I think it really got to the point where I'm not doing that anymore.

[Don LeGreca]

Do you think, though, like. Because we've seen this happen in sports when a coach is getting. Is publicly critical of players. Michael Malone is a great example in Denver. He never held back. He let his team have it. When you know, they were not playing well or a certain player wasn't playing well, he'd be blunt about it. I think the public doesn't like it. I think they look at it and they're like, oh, he's embarrassing the player. Like, it's amazing that you don't know. What exactly is it supposed to be? Am I supposed to be publicly critical of a player who's struggling, or do I look like I'm piling on that player? And now all of a sudden I have this disconnect and I'm gonna lose the locker room because of this? Like, what is the middle ground? Because we all know that there was that era before, I mean, Bill Parcells, did he ever hold back?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nope.

[Don LeGreca]

Yeah, I mean, he took it out on everybody and everybody thought it was great. But now I don't know if people. I don't know if the public can handle that anymore, guys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think it's a little different. I think it depends on the market. You know, if you're like, I'll give hockey as an example. If you're Paul Maurice in Florida, again, I don't want to insult the crowd in South Florida, but I don't know if in general they're as educated about hockey as they are in Toronto or Montreal. When you've got a crowd that fancies itself knowing more than the coach, you're not going to get away with the bs. And I think baseball in New York, man, these people take it seriously. If you're watching the postgame show, you know the game. So when they get fed bs, they're going to sense that they're not just going to give you the benefit of the doubt. I think Parcells realized that he was in Riddell, New Jersey. He grew up in the market. He grew up a Giants fan. He knew that these fans aren't going to take my BS If I lie to them. They're going to sense that and then I'm going to look like I'm not credible. So I'm going to be honest now. The 80s were different than they are now for sure. But I think the public knows when they're being lied to and when they're being fed BS and they don't want to be talked to like their children.

[Alan Hahn]

I think the key is just finding this balance of like, you don't have to be some old timey coach. I get it. You can't be the way it used to be. I understand that. But can't you just find a little bit of a middle ground? You know, I love Boone personally, I really do, but I just think he does a bad job at finding that middle ground. He always sounds like it's T ball, like, can I just get a little bit, just a little bit of. When someone messes up, I'm being clear. They messed up, but it's all love. No, he has to go to, like, I don't even acknowledge that there was a mistake.

[Don LeGreca]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

And I just don't think that ends up serving anyone over the long term.

[Don LeGreca]

Right. Saying he's throwing good pitches is like, yeah, he's a professional baseball player. Of course he's throwing good. Like, I would hope so.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, we know he's throwing some good.

[Don LeGreca]

But I think for him, he. He's got to feel like the room is more important than the fans and what they think of me. I don't care if you hate me. I want to make sure that I've got the room in my back pocket, that I've got the players know I have their support. And I'm not going to just, you know, just when you're not going well, I'm going to just start taking it out on you publicly. Because he probably, as a player, knows how that feels. Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But he also has to realize that if the. If the fans and the media aren't buying it, aren't you even, like, doing damage now? Just now, you kind of just look like a clown. That's why people don't respect him as a manager, because it's like, is he just there to protect the players?

[Don LeGreca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Joe Girardi would be upset about his players, and he loses his job and.

[Don LeGreca]

He'S not there anymore and Boone is, because that's what the Yankees want. It's as clear as that. That's what they want. And that's what I'll be seeing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's a credibility, because I do think he's a good manager. I do think he deserves a little bit more respect. But with moments like that, you start to lose it.

[Don LeGreca]

That I agree with. 800-919-3776 lang in Connecticut. What's up, Lang?

[Caller]

You just say Brianna Birch.

Yeah, hi.

I'm going to get into the Knicks, and I know we spent a lot of time comparing and contrasting last year into this year's team, but I think the single most thing that pisses me off the most, that's most hurtful, that's the most frustrating to see, is after these losses that we've talked about, this lack of care, this lack of pride, and I wonder if reporters have access to the pregame speech, because. No, I want to know what. Okay, they don't. But I wonder what Tibbs tells these guys, because last year's team, you know, you guys talked about it. You know, the way Brunson and Hart greeted the fans after that Game seven loss, it seemed like they actually knew what it meant to the city, and it's a privilege to wear that jersey. And now you've changed a few of these players. I don't know if Towns and Bridges know what the Knicks mean to the city and the fans. And it's just so disheartening to watch.

[Don LeGreca]

Lang. I get it. Now. Let me just point out A couple of things. First towns. His mother was a die hard Knicksman. She loved the Knicks. It was her dream for him to play for them. She's not with us anymore. For him this is special. His father comes to every game. His father had a dream to play for the Knicks out of college, broke his ankle and never could go to the tryout that he was invited to. So they understand Bridges. I'll give you Bridges is a guy that doesn't really show you a lot of emotion. I think for him it's just wherever I am, I'm just playing like that's it. But the speech thing, I gotta tell you, this is not Knute Rockne. This doesn't happen on a nightly basis. In professional level. You're not doing speeches like that before every game because you're going to lose players quickly because they, they're not here for that. Like this isn't, you know, eighth grade cyo. This is professional sports. You don't do a pre game, fire him up speech before every game in an 82 game season.

[Caller]

But I know it should fire up the net. Well if game one doesn't fire them up from the opening tip when there's defense chance. Well, right when you look at the scoreboard, yes, it's funn gone by and the place is rocking, then those players don't deserve to be on the team next year.

[Don LeGreca]

No, I mean, I think we'll see Lang a little bit. I can't imagine you're going to see a team flat for game one at Madison Square Garden.

[Alan Hahn]

That would be very troubling and surprising.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The scary thing is they might lose and had nothing to do with them being flat. Right.

[Don LeGreca]

Execute or not good enough, Better that day.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not good enough. That's the scary thing is.

[Don LeGreca]

Yeah, those are all real things that they're going to have to address. John in Bethlehem was listening on the app. What's up, John?

[Caller]

Hey guys, how we doing?

[Don LeGreca]

Good.

[Alan Hahn]

Hey buddy.

[Caller]

Good. First of all, Nixon six argue with a wall. That's number one. Number two, Basically like the same people that complain about these players in international tournaments and all star games are the same ones complaining that the game isn't televised enough where people don't care about it. So like where is this like middle ground where the players are excited to be there and people and media are excited for these players to be there while also expanding the game. I just want to get your thoughts on that.

[Don LeGreca]

Yeah, Don, I do think there's something real about the American side of like the WBC and how, you know, again, a lot of the Caribbean players, like, it means the world to them to play for Puerto Rico, to play for the Dominican Republic, like Mexico, it means the world to them. It's everything. I'm representing my country. I don't get to do that. I'm playing in the U.S. i'm far away. But now my country, you know, I can give them something to hope and feel about. Whereas American players, it's like, well, just playing baseball. What do you mean? Like, it's just. It's never been a sport like that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Don LeGreca]

And I think they've got to drag the American players into caring about it, because what's happening is, is some of these other players from other countries are saying, you know what? We're better than you guys, and we passed you by.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I get like, met Yankee fans might have a different opinion because you know what? New York's a baseball town. And they don't have to worry about, like, how popular sport is. They sell out the building. People care. But there's a lot of markets right now where they're watching their favorite team and they're getting the MLB, like, app version because they don't have regional coverage anymore. Like, it's. You got to be able to grow the sport. You just have to. And this is a way to do it. And I'm not talking about growing the sport. Playing games in Japan, though.

[Alan Hahn]

That.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That, that's stupid. I'm just talking about really getting your fan base energized for the start of a season. What's going to be happening during the World Baseball Classic in March? You're going to be competing against the NBA and the NHL's regular season coming down. The people are going to be talking about the draft in the NFL. But if you can get an engaging World Baseball Classic, that. That could captivate a lot of people. When it's. You're a dead stick during spring training, you yawn at pitchers and catchers. These exhi. Games don't mean anything. The spring training is so what. But if you can get people fired up in March before the season starts, it's. It's a good thing, man.

[Don LeGreca]

Peter, as a guy that I know is baseball's not your thing. Well, does wbc, does it move a little?

[Alan Hahn]

This last one?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Do you see movement?

[Alan Hahn]

The last. The one last year there was some straight movement. I felt some movement. I don't like think about tips now. If Judge is playing in captain, I will be that much more interested. I think it's literally one of those things that's right on the verge of being truly meaningful in sort of a crossover way.

[Don LeGreca]

It's like when LeBron. When Kobe and LeBron were like 2008 redeemed team. We're all committing to this. And once they did, how are the other stars saying no? So with Judge kind of stepping in, name him captain. Does that, like, almost put the onus on all the best American players to say, well, I got to go if he's there.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, listen, we know in this version of pro sports, it just won't be that way. Like, some people are still going to say, I'm good. And then the question is, all right, but who are the other American stars that you actually care about?

[Don LeGreca]

Can you name them?

[Alan Hahn]

That's the bigger problem.

[Don LeGreca]

Because the sport in the US Is a distant fourth, is it not? I put college football in there.

[Alan Hahn]

Distant four.

[Don LeGreca]

Distant four.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, with college football.

[Don LeGreca]

College football. College football. Like, I'm talking about pro football. Yeah. Pro basketball, college football, baseball.

[Peter Rosenberg]

In certain markets, maybe.

[Don LeGreca]

Wouldn't you think?

[Alan Hahn]

I wouldn't say it's distant. I wouldn't say it's distant behind basketball.

[Don LeGreca]

I'm saying in the country.

[Alan Hahn]

No, it's behind college football.

[Don LeGreca]

Right now you're talking about fox, espn, the Gigantic. No, no, it's sports deals that they have for these sports. And ESPN just said, you know what? We're all set on Sunday night. We're good.

[Alan Hahn]

The big baseball. I think the more interesting thing is, is who are the great American players? Don't. And I know there'll be a couple pitchers, but who are the great American players that would actually move people to the television?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, Trout after.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean. And Trout's on the other side of it, if we're being honest.

[Don LeGreca]

Yeah. You see, it's not easy.

[Alan Hahn]

And you're. That's Don legreca and it's Donna Greca.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So he's talking about, I could name a bunch of American players, but that somebody in Nebraska is going to go, I got to go see.

[Don LeGreca]

But just Americans are going to say, that's our guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's plenty of Pete Alonzo, I mean, obviously could represent, right? I mean, I think there's plenty. But the other.

[Don LeGreca]

The other thing, the young stars, Gunner HENDERSON, Bobby Witt Jr. Like, you got those.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, sure. The other. But Dan Show. Moving the needle.

[Don LeGreca]

I don't know if Bobby. No, But Bobby Witt Jr. Could win MVP this year. Like you don't know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but he's doing it for the Royals, and it's a regional sport, and most people don't even know he exists, unfortunately, unless you're a diehard baseball fan. The other thing that'll bother people is if Judge hits a grand slam home run, down three, nothing in the championship game, and wins the wbc. There'd be. Yankee fans would be like, all right, now do it now.

[Don LeGreca]

Do it in October.

[Alan Hahn]

That's okay. Well, Yankee fans, you can't even worry.

[Don LeGreca]

By the way, one thing that I got yelled at for at Newsday many years ago when I covered baseball was I used the redundancy grand slam home run. Oh, apparently, that is a redundancy. I'm saying it, and it's like. It's like, no, no, no. It's already. When you say grand slam, it's already assumed it's a home run. And so therefore, like, I'm talking about when you get called to the carpet, like back in the old days, like, editors would, like, have it out with you about it. And it was. You just sit there just going, like, okay, I just always used to say that. So that's not how you say it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, so these guys probably freak out now if they're even still with us, about scoring the basketball.

[Don LeGreca]

You can't say the game was tied. No such thing. Game is not tied. Score was tied.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, dear God.

[Don LeGreca]

Like, oh, no. You would get these lessons from these guys. The old. The old school editors, they took it. They took it very serious. The English language was a big deal to them. So when you said that, it triggered something in me where I actually flinched. Like, oh, my God. I remember getting yelled at.

[Peter Rosenberg]

These RBI guys, too, were they rbi, not RBI or rsbi?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, Alan's an rbi.

[Don LeGreca]

That was a topic, man.

[Alan Hahn]

Alan, you're an RBI guy. You did it earlier today. No plural. On an rbi.

[Don LeGreca]

I said rbi. Yeah, well, saying it and writing it is a different thing. But that became. There was a whole discussion, man. They would have these discussions. You just sit there. I was, like, 25 years old, just staring at these old men. Like, how do you know all this stuff?

[Alan Hahn]

Why do you care?

[Don LeGreca]

I just want to write about sports.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, it's not church.

[Don LeGreca]

All right? Let's just. It's church. Well, that's the AP Style book. That's your Bible.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I get it. But, you know, grand slam, home run.

[Alan Hahn]

So what?

[Don LeGreca]

Redundant. That's two more. That's two words that you didn't need to use there, that you could use something else instead.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I understand. If there's, like, space in an article.

[Don LeGreca]

Well, it's. It's expensive real estate.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Can I just say, I don't know these people but I don't like them.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, not your kind of people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don't care for them.

[Don LeGreca]

This is how they're jibs.

[Alan Hahn]

Not care. This is how I was raised.

[Don LeGreca]

I was raised in the business doing this.

[Alan Hahn]

You know who I respect?

[Caller]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

I had a guy rip me one time when I was working at Sportsphone. Actually called the news desk to correct me because I would say, you know, Yankees Mariners deadlocked at 4. Can't be deadlocked. Deadlock is mean. It's over. It's a deadlock.

[Don LeGreca]

Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's still time for it to be untied. Captain Literal Man I told him what I thought. You can call back.

[Don LeGreca]

Peter.

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[Don LeGreca]

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[Don LeGreca]

So New York for the Knicks and Pistons.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We have to.

[Alan Hahn]

No, you know, that's true. It's the right, it's the right street vibe for a series that should be very hard nosed. Don Hahn and Rosenberg here. Last half hour, last call crew 1-800-919-3776 and Alan and I were just talking. We got to get into some, some Knicks talk because like I'm a little surprised, Alan, that there hasn't been a little more emotion of. I know it's been a slow sort of build, but blowing a 23 point lead against a team that you haven't been able to beat all year and that you might have to get through to win the championship or you will have to it one way or the other. That's it. I'm a little surprised we haven't heard from more people emotional about what happened on Friday.

[Don LeGreca]

I don't know why I know people are mad. I think the only common theme is the thibodeau theme. I think that's what everybody's getting fixated on, that they are focused on. This must be the coach's fault. And I gotta be honest, I'm watching the team and I feel like there's something going on internally that is not coaching. There's something happening with this group because you know, a lot of times when you play a team like Boston, I think Boston, they, that they wanted to win that game. They thought they were going to win that game. It slipped out of their hands. They lose the game and that kind of like sent them in a little bit. Of a funk. Then if the Pistons game was another one of these games where by the end, they were kind of getting bullied around a little bit, and they also were a little rattled by that the Cleveland game, it felt like a team that was more like, how can you focus on an opponent and have a collective we want to kick their ass attitude when you've got your own problem, like, when you have internal issues, you know what I mean? Like, it's harder to unify against an opponent if you're having a hard time just unifying. And so something's different about them. I was talking to somebody in the league that, you know, pays close attention to the Knicks is somebody that is a coach with another team. And we were just talking about him because he was even like, like, what's going on with them? I said, I don't know, but they're not right. I go, you know, what are you seeing? And his response to me was, yeah, they're. They're not the same team that we saw earlier this season. Like, there. There's something not right there. And it has. It's not strategy and go, there's something else going on there. And they. And that's what the whole we got it. Whatever it is, we got to fix it, and we got to fix it fast. Doesn't feel like an effort or strategy thing. This feels more like something in the locker room that needs to get settled if they're going to be the team that they were midway through the season when they were, you know, third best record in the league.

[Alan Hahn]

Now, the good news is, if you take a. If you widen the lens a little bit and you step back further right. Their record down the stretch of the season was not bad. I mean, even over the last six, they split the last six. Right.

[Don LeGreca]

That's not great, though.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, no. But considering it feels like a complete nightmare with those Celtics, Pistons, cavs lost.

[Don LeGreca]

Not 2 and 12, but it was still not good.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, and you were looking at those three games.

[Don LeGreca]

Yep.

[Alan Hahn]

You knew. You had the Suns game and you had the. You had the Nets games.

[Don LeGreca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Both of those. You knew they would win. The question was, how many would they get of the middle three against the tough teams, the playoff teams? And the answer was none. And the fashion in which they blew them was tough. 1-800-9193776. Let's go to Jay in Newark, see what Jay is talking about. What's up?

[Caller]

Jay killed my vibe on the mix with the whole locker room talk, man. I was gonna call full of Optimism and emotion. And now you're talking about the locker room.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, try. Try to make it optimistic. Anyway. We need this.

[Caller]

Well, I was gonna say this is the healthiest we've been in the last three or four playoffs. Right. We had Randall out a couple of times. Jeremy got hurt last year. OG got hurt, the abdominal issue with Josh. So I'm optimistic. We're coming in healthier than we have in the past couple of playoffs. And really, the role was constructed this year with bringing Mikhail. With bringing Mikhail Bridges in and a couple of the other pieces. We haven't seen them all pretty much play together because Mitch was out for so long, and we've all been hanging our hat on that. Let's see what. This team looks old and they're old now. So I kind of checked out about a week ago because I'm just really focused on the playoffs. But I'm highly optimistic just strictly on the fact that we're going in healthy with all of our big dogs. And, you know, at the end of the day, if we don't look good or representative against Boston with the whole team, I prefer that than the what ifs that we had last year, where we all feel, hey, we could have beat the Pacers if we would have been healthy. That's. Now, it's a bit more frustrating than, I would say, losing and being able to honestly assess what the team needs next year. So I'm optimistic. I'll be reading like I always do, but I'm really excited that the team is healthy for once going into the playoffs. If they do have locker room missions, I hope they fix them.

[Don LeGreca]

Yeah. Again, I don't know if they do. I'm just saying. That was one. One person I talked to had this observation about there's something more happening there, and, you know, we don't know what it is. But, Jay, Jay, it's true. If you think about it. They didn't have Randall last year to start the playoffs.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Don LeGreca]

Adenobi was just coming back from an injury. And then Mitchell Robinson, also, you remember, he had the foot thing and he had to come back.

[Alan Hahn]

Did they never. They never had all of them?

[Don LeGreca]

No, no. Randall, Remember Randall? Randall had to be shut down for the season. The shoulder they thought, would they get right, and then right before the playoffs, he said, no, I have to get the surgery. I can't do it, couldn't play.

[Alan Hahn]

That should be the big difference here, is that this year, in theory, they'll be at full strength. Of course, it's just a different look. Full strength because there is no Julius Randall. All right, let's go to Tim. What up, Tim?

[Caller]

Hey, how's it going, guys?

[Don LeGreca]

What's up?

[Caller]

Hit on my point a little bit before. I'm good. On yourself.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, yeah.

[Don LeGreca]

Peter doesn't want to say where you're from because I bet you can't pronounce the Montag one.

[Alan Hahn]

Talk.

[Don LeGreca]

Yeah, the G is silent, but I kind of.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, I think I nailed it just right.

[Don LeGreca]

You said want tog.

[Alan Hahn]

Want tog.

[Caller]

They were in the realm.

[Don LeGreca]

It's want to. Man. Listen on the. Love it.

[Caller]

Oh, yeah. So, yeah, I was just curious. You guys were hitting on the point a little bit from last year. Early part of this year, we were total second half team, got off the slow starts, then came back and won the game. Second half. Now, recently we've been more of a, you know, we come out, we look strong at first, and then we just totally blow it at the end. Have you, you know, seen anything that would indicate why that is or you have any thoughts on that?

[Don LeGreca]

It's interesting you point that out because in the three losses that we're talking about, Boston Pistons and Cleveland in those three games, I put the numbers together. In the first half of all three games, they shot 55%, scored 60 points, and were off 40% from three. In the second half of those games, they shot 39%, 29% from three, were outscored by an average of 13 points a game. So what Tim is saying is absolutely accurate. What am I seeing? A slow out of the gate second half, like early third quarters, they are not as on point. They don't finish the first half strong. They are in closing quarters. I don't know what that's about. Like, that's just a player who comes on the floor and is just like, you know, I'm. I'm. I'm going to get hot early. I'm going to get myself going. Whatever it is, something's missing. It's almost like they're waiting for somebody else to do something. Is that now? There's a lot of things that can be. Here's one example. Is it, we know we're in the third seed. We're just going to, you know, like, like you're. You're not as fired up. Let me let somebody else do it. When the playoffs begin, everybody just gets dialed up, especially Brunson. Brunson averaging 30 points a game as a player in the playoffs for the Knicks. So is it simply just that it got late in the year and there was a bunch of back to backs and guys are kind of tired and were they just reaching a point of whatever? I don't know. Will the competitive juices kick in? Because now it's the playoffs.

[Alan Hahn]

But how could they be in that place?

[Don LeGreca]

They knew they weren't going any higher than three.

[Alan Hahn]

I know, but all of us watching were like, it's very obvious to all of us they need to get a win. Yeah, I have trouble believing that professionals down the stretch would feel okay. Especially the way they lost them.

[Don LeGreca]

Alan, if they're okay, it's like, I can't explain it, but then why would.

[Alan Hahn]

They have had leads and all the. To me, it's the fact that they had leads in these games and blew them. Especially on Friday. You're up 23. That was time to have fun. Close out. By the way, Cleveland, they didn't even play everyone. They were ready to pack it in.

[Don LeGreca]

They would have, they would have sat all their guys in the second half if the Knicks maintained a 20 point lead by halftime. And then I can tell you that.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm full confidence and think about how it would have ended the season for the fans at msg. Yeah, like down the stretch was partying. It would have been awesome. And instead, what a drab way to end your home schedule. Woof.

[Don LeGreca]

Especially like that.

[Alan Hahn]

That's what I mean.

[Don LeGreca]

You know, it's weird too. Like everybody does it now. The last home game, the team stays on the court. They select fans who win the win the chance to take the jersey off the player. Everybody does this. Now isn't that kind of awkward? Like you, you just lost like a gut punch game. And you have to stay out on the floor now and like smile and take pictures with a fan and give them your jersey. Like the last thing I'd want to do is be out with them.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh my Lord, that would be so fun. Not fun.

[Don LeGreca]

Hey, you want my J?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don LeGreca]

It's great to meet you. And then you have that one guy. There's always got to be the 1 fan. What the hell was that? Can you imagine if there was one guy who had the chance and he comes out on the floor and it's like, hey, you get the chance to get Josh Hart's jersey. Okay, great. Hey, Josh, can you make a freaking 3? Well, by the way, would it kill you?

[Alan Hahn]

By the way, can you imagine if that happened? Of course Noah would say that. But the fact of the matter is, you know, they're all thinking, but, but.

[Don LeGreca]

Just like almost thinking of like, like, like Larry David doing that.

[Alan Hahn]

Like skipping Larry David version would be. I gotta say, I thought you would have won today. You know what I mean? It would have been, it would have been that.

[Don LeGreca]

Hey. Hey, what's your name? Josh. Like Larry. Hey, Larry, you want me to sign this? This jersey? This is gonna give me bad memories. I want this jersey.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm good. You know what? I'm fine.

[Don LeGreca]

Why don't you keep the jersey? Just give me a playoff win.

[Alan Hahn]

Can you get a win? It was. No, listen, it's. And by the way, if I'm just being honest and transparent with our listeners, Knicks fans out there, not super impressed with you either. Like the phone lines over the last couple of weeks when we bring up a basic baseball topic, when we bring up like football, everything else has been generating more than the Knicks. Like if I'm just being honest out, I'm not feeling it. Like I'm not considering.

[Don LeGreca]

All you have to do is go to my timeline over the weekend. Friday night. Toxic. Toxic. And this. There was actually something. It's getting to the point because I don't like to read mentions, but after certain situations I want to get the temperature of the fan base.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don LeGreca]

So I'll just check and see what are people saying. And there were some messages there. Some people were like, all he's trying to do is get people to call into his show. Like, because I'll tweet something just to get a reaction, just see where, where's everybody's temperature. And it's almost like they're holding it against me, like I'm part of the problem. Cuz I don't agree with the, with the masses that we should all just go and burn down Tibbs house and run him out of town.

[Alan Hahn]

Although. But you won't push back on though, is that if they finish this way down the stretch and then have a really bad series and get bounced quickly by Detroit, everything's on the table.

[Don LeGreca]

I can't, I cannot deny that you can't. It's. It's a scenario I don't foresee. I don't see a scenario that ends this way. But it doesn't mean it can't because obviously the probability is there that it could and then it would off of Friday's game and what was said after that game.

[Alan Hahn]

And then they can't turn the urgency.

[Don LeGreca]

And the voices and all that stuff. And then if we now fast forward a week and play a series and all of a sudden game one, they're punched in the mouth at 6:00 at the Garden and now everybody's like after a game. One down, zero one.

[Alan Hahn]

Like, oh, oh, can you imagine, by.

[Don LeGreca]

The way, that's the alarm bell sound. And I cannot deny that there is a reality that does exist. If something like that happens, that could lead to maybe a change is needed.

[Alan Hahn]

And let me tell you something, and I don't like it if they somehow drop game one, the tightness you're gonna feel in that building for game two. Oh, goodness gracious. All right, well, guess what? Phone lines are open. Every topic is on the table for our last segment. 1-800-919-3776, Knicks, Masters baseball. It's all there for you. But right now, guys, I got to deliver a message Brought to you by BetterHelp. Alright, therapy can be a very big investment, a worthwhile one. State of your mind is just as important as your physical health. But let's talk numbers. Traditional in person therapy can cost anywhere from 100 to 250 per session, even more some places, which adds up fast. But with BetterHelp online therapy, you can save on average up to 50% per session. With BetterHelp you can pay a flat fee for weekly sessions, saving you big on cost and time. Therapy should feel accessible, not like a luxury. With online therapy, you get quality care at a price that makes sense and can help you with anything from anxiety to everyday stress. Your mental health is worth it and now it's within reach. Listen, I personally, as you know, have benefited from therapy many times throughout my life and career, alright? It's super important to me. And with over 30,000 therapists, BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform, having served over 5 million people globally. Your well being is worth it. Visit betterhelp.com Peter today to get 10% off your first month. That's betterhelp.com Peter Taxact knows filing your.

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don LeGreca]

Your guy? Our guy.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Don LeGreca]

Yep. Richard in Manhattan. Hey Richard.

[Caller]

Fellas, I got. I got a thinking question I'll ask each of you. Top of the 10th in a tie ballgame. Baseball game. Man on Second, no out. Which would each of you rather have? Man on second, no out or a man on third? One out, each of you. Can you answer that?

[Don LeGreca]

Only on third. No one on first.

[Alan Hahn]

That's right.

[Caller]

Just a ghost runner. You lead off the top of the tent. Ghost runner second. Would you rather stay that way or have the man go to third?

[Alan Hahn]

I'd rather a man on third with one out.

[Don LeGreca]

100%.

[Caller]

Okay. Don. Allen.

[Alan Hahn]

Allen. He's. Alan agrees.

[Don LeGreca]

Yeah. I would rather have. Give me the guy 90ft away from winning the game.

[Caller]

So you want him. No, not winning. It's the top of the tent anytime. Or it could be the bottom of the tent. Anyway. So you'd rather have a man on third, one out.

[Don LeGreca]

Yeah.

[Caller]

And Don is doing Rangers.

[Don LeGreca]

Well, don't, don't.

[Caller]

Okay, I agree. Now, the Yankees don't agree with us. Now, my question to you guys is three part answer. Three part answer. Is it because, A, they think statistically they can score better with no out in a man on second, or B, do they say, we don't think the guy getting up can get the guy over the third, or is it C, a combination of both. So we'll stick with keeping the man at second and no out.

[Don LeGreca]

Yeah.

[Caller]

What do you guys think?

[Don LeGreca]

The Yankees, they don't coach contact hitting where you just hit, you know, put it in play and let the guy score from there. They don't coach that.

[Caller]

So you don't think they can get the guy over at third.

[Don LeGreca]

They don't coach it that way. They. They're.

[Caller]

They're all about that, saying the guy can't do it.

[Don LeGreca]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Caller]

Okay. All right. I got one more for you guys. You mind? Because, you know, I. Listener. I just want to listen to the radio.

[Don LeGreca]

I want to be a little critical.

[Caller]

Here, but I'm not being critical, because I listen.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Caller]

Four weeks ago, or three and a half weeks ago, the Yankee game, Opening day.

[Don LeGreca]

Opening day, maybe.

[Caller]

Yeah. Three. Okay. Yankees are up four to one, top of the ninth. You guys remember the game against Milwaukee?

[Don LeGreca]

Yeah.

[Caller]

Bases are loaded, no out. Williams is pitching.

[Don LeGreca]

Yes.

[Caller]

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[Alan Hahn]

Yes, we do.

[Caller]

All right. Turang is up, and it's four one hits, a long fly ball. I forgot to. Runner at third scores. From the runner at third scores, making it four two. The runner at second goes to third.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Caller]

But the runner at first stays at first. So now you have one out, first and third, four to two. Okay, man, first and third. Follow me so far, I'm here with.

[Alan Hahn]

You locked in the running.

[Caller]

The announcer, not gonna mention the name, doesn't matter, says Tarang trots back to the dugout having done his job. And I'm saying to myself, no, Mr. Announcer, he did not do his job. Those two runs at second and third don't mean beans. They can score. The Yankees will say, have them. They mean nothing. It's the man on first you don't want go into second because then he'd be in scoring position. So would you agree with me or do you see validity in what the announcer said? I say he didn't do his job.

[Don LeGreca]

I technically know because the whole idea is to get into scoring position and all they did was get the one run across. So technically did not do the job, but a job of keeping, keeping the cycle moving. Not, you know what I mean, like.

[Alan Hahn]

That it was a job halfway done.

[Caller]

There you go. Okay, so you see where I'm coming from, fellas? I only say this because I listen to everything on the radio. What keeps my mind going. Fellas, Always appreciate it.

[Don LeGreca]

Wait, wait, Richard, before you run.

[Alan Hahn]

Richard. Richard, are you. How are you doing physically? You sound like you have a cold.

[Don LeGreca]

Yeah. You got a little cold. Yeah.

[Caller]

I was at the Yankee game yesterday, Peter, and not that I got sick there, but it was warm at around 2:33 and then it started getting colder and colder. By the end of the, you know, the Yankees should give out hot chocolate, hot coffee into the game. They got to take care of the people there. It was cold. By 5 o'clock it was freezing at Yankee Stadium. It was cold. It wasn't cold to start the game, but it was fine.

[Don LeGreca]

Get better, Richard. Get back. Hang in there.

[Caller]

Thank you. Thank you for your concern, Peter, Don, thank you guys.

[Alan Hahn]

Thank you. Thank you, Don. Now real quick, what I was referencing earlier, in case you didn't know what I was talking about, anyone.

[Don LeGreca]

Don's dead because he was changing a tire and his heart exploded.

[Alan Hahn]

Now Richard, I'm gonna need a drop for tomorrow when we get to enn. I need to hear Richard plowing through me right there because that was. I've never tried that hard. Have we ever tried that hard?

[Don LeGreca]

Well, you had to raise your voice and yell at him.

[Alan Hahn]

Couldn't stop him.

[Don LeGreca]

No.

[Alan Hahn]

And then you jumped in.

[Don LeGreca]

He was so focused. That's what he does.

[Alan Hahn]

He is a swear. I love that man.

[Don LeGreca]

But the weekend though, he's talking about the weather. It really is something though. That Friday, it's the last time we spoke and we went off the air and I could not believe they were going to play that game. And they did though. They did. Out of spite of everything else, they ended up playing that game. God awful conditions. And now the Mets are playing where it's going to feel like 30 degrees in Minnesota. They're playing outside. This is baseball.

[Alan Hahn]

This is. It's got. I know it's always been a thing, but it is worse now.

[Don LeGreca]

It doesn't make it the right thing.

[Alan Hahn]

Right. It's the worst. It's ever been, I would. I'm sorry. I know they need every dollar. But in the long term, guys, you could be hurting your game by forcing these games. Maybe you shorten the season to like 142 and delay this thing to May 1st. It's just not working this way.

[Don LeGreca]

Mets coverage is coming up momentarily. We, of course, will see you tomorrow. Have a great night, everyone. Enjoy the games. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.