Hour 4: Sports Jerseys and Impressions

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast – Hour 4: Sports Jerseys and Impressions Release Date: March 12, 2025
Hosts: Don LaGreca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Duration: Approximately 50 minutes

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1. Introduction and Opening Banter

The episode kicks off with a lighthearted exchange about breakfast preferences, setting a casual and engaging tone.

• [00:03] Don LaGreca: “You don't wake up dreaming of McDonald's fries. You wake up dreaming of McDonald's hash browns. McDonald's breakfast comes first.”
• [00:19] Peter Rosenberg: “That sounds like heaven to me.”

2. Transition to Main Topics

The hosts quickly move past introductory segments to engage with live callers, highlighting an increase in listener interactions.

• [00:23] Alan Hahn: “Into the 6 o'clock hour we go with Don LaGreca, Peter Rosenberg. I'm Alan Hahn...”

3. Sports Jerseys Discussion

a. Authentic vs. Replica Jerseys

A significant portion of the episode centers around the authenticity of sports jerseys, particularly focusing on the New York Yankees.

• [10:13] Don LaGreca: “The Orioles are doing a full orange outfit head to toe, which is... aggressive.”
• [12:28] Alan Hahn: “I really enjoy it.”

The conversation delves into the debate over names on the back of jerseys, debating the merits of authentic jerseys without names versus replicas that include them.

• [11:06] Peter Rosenberg: “If you're ever going to do a third jersey, I can live with that. I like that jersey. It's still classic, it's still clean, and there's no names on the right.”
• [14:14] Don LaGreca: “The names on the back ones are cheaper. It is an easier and cheaper replica jersey.”
• [15:00] Peter Rosenberg: “If you're walking around with a three Ruth jersey... you're a die-hard fan.”

b. Yankees Jersey Types and Naming Conventions

The hosts discuss the Yankees' strategy in selling jerseys, criticizing the half-hearted approach of offering both named and unnamed jerseys.

• [11:26] Alan Hahn: “They have it all recorded. AI versions of Don. We'll just continue on.”
• [14:44] Alan Hahn: “If you really want the real Yankee jersey that our players have on the field, you're going to have to spend more on. And that one doesn't have names on the back.”

c. Comparison with Other Teams

They draw parallels with other teams, like the Red Sox, to highlight inconsistencies in jersey authenticity and marketing strategies.

• [17:20] Don LaGreca: “They should add names to the road grays... It’s the Red Sox...”

4. Broader Sports Conversations

a. Celtics and Franchise History

The discussion shifts to the Boston Celtics, examining their historical performance and fan loyalty despite challenging periods.

• [23:03] Don LaGreca: “My first year really liking The Celtics was 1987... They had some really sad times.”
• [36:00] Don LaGreca: “Celtics fans have a tough time arguing it.”

b. Steelers Fans and Die Hard Discussion

The conversation touches on the concept of “Die Hard” fans, using Steelers fans as an example of unwavering support despite team struggles.

• [35:46] Don LaGreca: “If you haven't had the experience of being embarrassed by your team, then you really don't really Die Hard.”
• [37:37] Don LaGreca: “The only team that I make that argument about... the Commanders.”

c. NBA Three-Point Shot History

A nostalgic look at the evolution of the three-point shot in the NBA, comparing historical statistics to the modern game.

• [31:03] Alan Hahn: “They had the first one, and the Celtics had a 7-game losing streak.”
• [31:09] Don LaGreca: “Playing from the NBA three-point line is astoundingly far.”

d. Final Four Venue Discussions

The hosts critique the logistics and atmosphere of hosting the Final Four in large venues like Madison Square Garden.

• [33:45] Don LaGreca: “It feels stupid to put it in these gigantic buildings.”
• [34:30] Don LaGreca: “The raised court is so weird.”

5. Listener Calls and Interactions

a. Musical Covers and Pop Culture References

Listener Richard shares his thoughts on musical covers and historical sports moments.

• [28:40] Don LaGreca: “The very first NHL player to start to bend his stick was Stan Mikita back in the 1950s.”
• [45:04] Don LaGreca: “Post Malone's cover of Hootie and the Blowfish is like saying, you have to try.”

b. NBA Game Strategy and Player Performance

Caller John discusses expectations for upcoming NBA games, emphasizing a “must-win” perspective.

• [46:14] Caller: “How are you gonna say something so baseless and like have it like, say nonsense on a podcast.”
• [47:37] Alan Hahn: “He's still around.”

c. Fan Loyalty and Team Support

Callers express their loyalty to their teams, debating what constitutes true fandom.

• [35:56] Don LaGreca: “Celtics fans have a tough time arguing it.”
• [37:35] Don LaGreca: “The Nick fan never dies.”

6. Concluding Remarks and Final Banter

The episode wraps up with the hosts exchanging humorous remarks and teasing future discussions, maintaining the lively and personable atmosphere.

• [43:59] Alan Hahn: “Catch the show on demand whenever you want.”
• [49:09] Alan Hahn: “Yeah, but this is bubble gum.”

7. Notable Quotes

• Don LaGreca: “Put that up as a graphic and let it go out.” [07:32]
• Peter Rosenberg: “To me, that's the definition of Die Hard.” [37:35]
• Alan Hahn: “It’s not authentic. And you're exposing these fans to snobby fans who might say, well, you couldn’t afford to buy the real.” [17:19]

8. Key Insights and Conclusions

• Authenticity Matters: The debate over jersey authenticity highlights a broader issue of sports merchandise marketing and fan expectations. Authentic jerseys without names are preferred by die-hard fans, while replicas with names offer a more affordable option, albeit at the cost of tradition.

• Fan Loyalty Tested by Performance: True fandom is tested during periods of poor performance. The hosts emphasize that die-hard fans remain loyal despite team struggles, contrasting them with more casual supporters.

• Evolving Sports Dynamics: The discussion on the evolution of the three-point shot and venue selections for major events like the Final Four underscores the changing dynamics in professional sports and how they impact both players and fans.

• Cultural Intersections: The interplay between sports and pop culture, such as musical covers and movie references, illustrates the multifaceted interests of the hosts and their audience.

9. Final Thoughts

This episode of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg offers a rich blend of sports analysis, fan culture, and lighthearted banter. Whether you're a die-hard Yankee fan debating jersey authenticity or a Celtics supporter reminiscing about past glories, the hosts provide engaging insights and relatable discussions that resonate with a broad audience.

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Transcript

[Don LaGreca]

You don't wake up dreaming of McDonald's fries. You wake up dreaming of McDonald's hash browns. McDonald's breakfast comes first.

[Alan Hahn]

This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg Podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That sounds like heaven to me.

[Don LaGreca]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3.

[Alan Hahn]

On 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers. Oh, yeah. Into the 6 o'clock hour we go with Don Lagreca. Peter Rosenberg. I'm Alan Hahn. 800-919-3776 is the number. And if you might have noticed, in this show, the call screener is at least half working, which is great.

[Don LaGreca]

I don't know if people noticed it at home, I'll be honest.

[Alan Hahn]

Because. Because, I mean, we haven't really been a heavy call show.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, you're saying because we're getting to more calls.

[Alan Hahn]

We're getting to them. We're getting them set up, and we're getting to the people, and that's. That's a great thing. Let me give you game time, brought to you by Tulla Mardu Irish Whiskey. Because when it's game time etched.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm not a fan. I'm just not into it. I really don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's.

[Don LaGreca]

It's starting to get worse now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's bad.

[Alan Hahn]

It's just better. No, you. You can't be out, Don.

[Don LaGreca]

You said you're out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm out.

[Don LaGreca]

I got him. I knew it. Now use that.

[Alan Hahn]

You let him bully you into this. Is that what you think?

[Don LaGreca]

Be honest now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just. It's too much.

[Don LaGreca]

I told you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And each one's gotten worse.

[Don LaGreca]

I told you.

[Alan Hahn]

I really enjoy it.

[Don LaGreca]

I told you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Unlike some athletes, sometimes you just got to know when it's over.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, God. Thank you. That's what makes Donna great, by the way. Because other people would have continued to fight it and fight it and fight it. Not Don.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I respect Peter's opinion.

[Don LaGreca]

Thank you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I just doesn't throw things out.

[Don LaGreca]

No, I support everything Don does. Why would I ever, ever lead you wrong?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I felt it at that point. You know what? I reached down deep and there was nothing there. Retirement announcement. We'll have a press release later.

[Don LaGreca]

I love this for you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And now you've got to try to bully me into staying. But I.

[Alan Hahn]

No, I don't want quitters. I don't want quitters.

[Peter Rosenberg]

See? Why do you have.

[Alan Hahn]

We have drops.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not quitters.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, you're always. You're gonna trust me. The Gordy Howe quit will go on forever because we have it all recorded.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, that's fine.

[Alan Hahn]

AI versions of Don. We'll just continue on.

[Don LaGreca]

I love AI.

[Alan Hahn]

If you don't have it. If you don't have it anymore, I don't want quitters.

[Don LaGreca]

Did you just come up with a great bit accident? AI Don is a great concept.

[Alan Hahn]

There's nothing better.

[Don LaGreca]

I love this.

[Alan Hahn]

Meanwhile, for now, the Knicks continue their west coast trip in Portland. Why not with with coverage on 8080 at 9:30. That follows Dan Grassa. And maybe we'll get Dan Grass. Full frontal grass tonight. By the way, a game you don't want to miss. On espn, you have the defending champion Boston Celtics taking on the best in the West. The Oklahoma City coverage starts at 7 and that could be an NBA Finals preview. Telemardu. The original triple distilled, triple blended, triple cast matured Irish whiskey. Be sure to grab a Tullamore Dew or try the new Tulla Mordu Honey during tonight's action, glasses up to enjoying Tullamore Dew responsibly. I'll say this. A couple of years ago on the show that I did with Bart, we made the last hour of the show the power hour. We did this because by about 2:00, Bart would start to fall asleep. And we thought, let's keep him engaged. Well, Bart, he was always getting up early and he's running a business too, aside from hosting a show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

And so we thought this is a good way to like kind of, you know, just get some energy back in the show. And so I would just say, what, you know, it's 2:00, blah, blah, blah, our number three. What does that mean? And he would. Every. Right. Every single day, Jake, he would give you a power hour, right? And he would just bring it. He sometimes he would say hour, like eight times nine, whatever it is. Not once did he ever say to me, you know, I'm kind of getting tired of saying it.

[Don LaGreca]

And by the way, if I had the kind of relationship with Bart, who I'm very fond of, still don't want.

[Alan Hahn]

To hear if I had the same.

[Don LaGreca]

Relationship with him that I had with Don. Guess what, Don? I would have called him right away. No, let's move on.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it's funny because it was incredibly popular with the listeners. They loved it. They used to record their children in the backseat of their cars as they were driving home from school saying it along with Bart. And they would send it to us.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I hear you.

[Alan Hahn]

So it's Tully time. Could be a thing that people are yelling to the TV right now and.

[Don LaGreca]

You don't know it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I Didn't feel it.

[Alan Hahn]

And now the sponsor.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't feel it was trending in that direction. And we've got better versions of it.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Recorded.

[Alan Hahn]

There you go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's Tully time. Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

We got the best ones already happened.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So I think we're doing the sponsor a favor. I think we're doing the listeners a favor.

[Alan Hahn]

That last one is. I'm trying to think of who it sounds like voice wise.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Can we hear it just. Just.

[Don LaGreca]

Just alone. Yeah, let's hear it solo.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's Charlie time.

[Don LaGreca]

That's two. They're two put together.

[Alan Hahn]

Who is that? It sounds like Bradley Cooper's character in A Star Is Born. Right. That voice that he uses for that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

By the wayside.

[Alan Hahn]

Exactly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow. I did like. I like that soundtrack a lot.

[Alan Hahn]

It's a tremendous soundtrack. Yes. Now, which ver. This. Three versions of that movie. Which one's the best?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Was four. I think there was three.

[Don LaGreca]

No, I thought three.

[Alan Hahn]

There's the original, which is the 80s one. And then this, the one in the late 70s.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was Barbara. I believe there's four.

[Don LaGreca]

I mean, honestly. But hold on, hold on. Let me just. This. Let me just edit first.

[Alan Hahn]

Please do.

[Don LaGreca]

If there's a fourth one, Don, does it matter?

[Alan Hahn]

Nobody knows.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Don LaGreca]

No one knows.

[Alan Hahn]

Nobody.

[Don LaGreca]

It makes no difference.

[Alan Hahn]

That's the one no one saw.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait a minute.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The first version was from 1937.

[Don LaGreca]

I love that one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay. And that had.

[Don LaGreca]

Dead Person one and Dead Person two.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Frederick March. Oh, like you dream about Janick A. Noor, but just because you don't know.

[Don LaGreca]

But they're.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's the original and people speak highly.

[Alan Hahn]

Not Gaynor.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Might be.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

Okay. And the next one, I want to just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I want to get the IMDb ratings. Okay, so that rating, I don't see it.

[Don LaGreca]

Did it even have words?

[Peter Rosenberg]

7.3. 37. Come on.

[Alan Hahn]

It was a silent film about a singer.

[Don LaGreca]

That's what I thought. Yeah. Are you sure they actually showed the singing or it just had, like a font on the screen?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was.

[Alan Hahn]

It was musical notes.

[Don LaGreca]

That wasn't a talkie.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Was it 1937.

[Alan Hahn]

We were talking.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, so now that's the first one. And then the second one was from 1954. Oh, Judy Garner, James Mason.

[Don LaGreca]

Now, I thought that was enough.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then Barbra Streisand, Kris Kristofferson in 76. So I'm just saying. Listen, you got it right, you know, wipe. You know what with it. There were four. I just corrected him, that's all.

[Don LaGreca]

You're right. You're right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

1937 people existed. It was pre war, World War II between right after the war that ends all wars. And boy did it.

[Alan Hahn]

That was a bad take.

[Don LaGreca]

Let's end the show, by the way. Let's end the show. Hold on. Let's. We are not going to have a line on this show that is better than Don saying that the line to the war to end all wars didn't age well. That there's not. We're not going to have a better moment on this show. It's the ultimate line that didn't age you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I always thought that like whenever they would bring that. Like why you keep saying that?

[Alan Hahn]

Wait, shouldn't we do a segment where we just. Through history. Bad takes.

[Don LaGreca]

No, here's what I want.

[Alan Hahn]

Just bad takes.

[Don LaGreca]

Is anyone out there age well? I'm not heaping this on Anthony or Jacob. I don't know if they have the ability to do it. Maybe. Maybe Jake is out there listening. I want a picture of Don with just the written quote. Oh, the war to end all wars is a line that really didn't age well. Just put that up as a graphic and let it go out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They meant well at the time. They figured it's a world war and.

[Don LaGreca]

Millions of people died.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So this is the. This has got to be worse. But what I'm saying is I'll watch a documentary about World War I that was made in like 2001 and they'll still say the war that ends. No, stop saying it.

[Don LaGreca]

You know, the dog.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's been, you know, spoiler alert.

[Alan Hahn]

It didn't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The. The Korean conflict of the police action.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's like calling.

[Don LaGreca]

It's like calling Rocky 1. The Rocky to end all Rockies. It just. That's not how it works.

[Alan Hahn]

No. No, it didn't. A score update. St. John's will be playing tomorrow. Butler.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, there's your matchup.

[Alan Hahn]

Butler with a 7569 victory over Providence College. So the PC season pretty much over. Butler moves on. They will take on St. John's tomorrow in the Big East Tournament. And of course we hope they will win that game and play Friday night because we are doing our show at Moynihan Train Hall. The Irish exit right there. Or marching across the street from the Garden. Our Show's over at 6:30 that day. Note the finishing time. That game tips off at 6:30. We will, when our show ends, walk across the street into the building and we'll be front and center to watch the Johnny's in the Big East Tournament. Of course, they have to take care of business tomorrow against Butler.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not marching if they lose. Is that all right?

[Alan Hahn]

Neither am I. Peter, you're on your own. Not interested in seeing. What is it, Mark?

[Don LaGreca]

Who is it? I don't know if I'm marching at all. So listen, I'm just being honest.

[Alan Hahn]

We're not marching. All of a sudden too good to march.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm just being honest. Maybe. Maybe march, but I don't know if I'm too good. I got too good. No. Well, let's not do this out loud.

[Alan Hahn]

It's not the acc. I'm sorry, but, you know, what are you Phil Oaks?

[Don LaGreca]

I don't even know the reference.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I ain't marching anymore. Find the song. Thank you, Jacob. It's a folk song. That's you. You're not marching.

[Don LaGreca]

I don't know if I'm marching. We'll see if I'm marching.

[Alan Hahn]

We'll carry him. We could carry him.

[Don LaGreca]

That's what you said you're gonna do anyway.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not gonna carry Peter across what, the 38th, 32nd, 8th Avenue.

[Don LaGreca]

Against my will. That's totally against.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Kicking and screaming.

[Don LaGreca]

Literally screaming.

[Alan Hahn]

It'll be even better that way. You're gonna go watch this game and you're gonna like it.

[Don LaGreca]

So let me tell you. Let me tell you, everyone out there, what I told Allen during the break.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, no.

[Don LaGreca]

We were talking about unis.

[Alan Hahn]

Yep.

[Don LaGreca]

And I pointed out that I saw yesterday the new alt fakacta thing the Orioles are doing is The Orioles are doing. No, I don't actually hate it, but the Orioles are doing a full orange outfit head to toe, which is. It's a lot. It's an aggressive.

[Alan Hahn]

The orange itself, what you're seeing in spring training with. I think it's gray pants.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, it looks fine. White pants.

[Alan Hahn]

I think it was a white. Whatever it is, it looks fine. Orange as well.

[Don LaGreca]

Pants, they're going orange on orange, which is aggressive.

[Alan Hahn]

It feels savannah bananas.

[Don LaGreca]

It feels very. I had the exact same thought. Very savannah bananas, but more like the Baltimore Oranges. So then we started talking uniforms, and I said to Alan, well, full disclosure.

[Alan Hahn]

The Yankees today were also wearing their dark blue tops that they wear in spring training with the gray bottoms. And I said, if you're ever going to do a third jersey, I can live with that. I like that jersey. It's still classic, it's still clean, and there's no names on the right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then we came to the conclusion, if you're going to mess with anything, the road graze is where you would mess. I don't think they should, but if you're going to leave the home, fine.

[Don LaGreca]

And then we landed back where I always land, which is they should add names to the road grays, which Allen, as a Yankee fan is sickened by.

[Alan Hahn]

Spit on the ground.

[Don LaGreca]

And I said to Alan, your team obviously doesn't feel as strongly about you about it as you do, because if they did, they would stop selling replicas with the names on the back. But since the Yankees are willing to sell the jersey with the name on the back for the people to buy, they might as well just put the names on the road grays and call it a day. Don, they're half pregnant on it. Make up your mind.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They've been saying it for 20 years.

[Don LaGreca]

If you're against it, if it's not something you do, then stop making money off of selling it as a lower priced jersey option to fans who can't afford the authentic ones without the names on the back. Own it one way or the other. Right now they're half in, half out. Put the names on the road grays don't think you're better than anyone else. The Red Sox do it. They got the white at home with no name, the classic white Red Sox jersey. And then on the road, which by the way, the road Red Sox jersey and the road Yankee jersey, it's done. It's same jersey, exact same jersey.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is aggressive.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, boy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But the OR go complete polar opposite. Only sell the ones with the names and just say, sorry, you're not a Yankee. Not available.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, there you go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How about that?

[Don LaGreca]

That's. I don't hate that either. Yeah, because then at least people go, well, you can't get them. You just. That's for the players. The players wear it with no name.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because I always love. We wear it with the name because like little. Usually it doesn't happen with uniforms, but Alan will appreciate this. Like there was, there was patches. Like sometimes there'll be like whenever I would get an authentic jersey back in the day, I'd want it to be completely authentic.

[Don LaGreca]

Sure, Alan will appreciate it.

[Alan Hahn]

Hockey jersey with the fight strap.

[Don LaGreca]

With the fight strap.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was always the fighting strap, but the old Canuck jerseys. Because their owner, his name escapes me, but his quote was, get like let's get two or something. And when he died, they put that patch on. You could not find that patch. I looked everywhere for that patch and I was able to finally find it and put it on there, make it more authentic. When Spider Lockhart died in 86 for the Giants, they had a patch commemorating his death to the point they didn't want it replicated. When. Take a look at the Sports Illustrated with Lawrence Taylor on it. In 86, they airbrush the Spider Lockhart patch. Like, I love that kind of stuff. Don't make that available. Make it. So, like, that's really cool. If you want to go way over the top with it, just say, you know what Yankee jersey doesn't have names on the back because they're Yankees. You're not. Can't get it.

[Don LaGreca]

So you get the ones with their names. By the way, I don't ate that. And the truth is, Don, I think you and I are on the same page on this. We give fans a hard time about the three Ruth jerseys and the two Jeters. We give them a hard time, but the truth is, it's not the fan's fault. It is the team's fault for selling those jerseys. That's something you said.

[Alan Hahn]

You said something I didn't know.

[Don LaGreca]

Go ahead.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm not a jersey buyer, so that's why I don't know this. The names on the back ones are cheaper.

[Don LaGreca]

Yes. It is an easier and cheaper replica jersey.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So although you can find.

[Don LaGreca]

But it's harder.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It is harder.

[Alan Hahn]

What you're suggesting is kind of what they're doing is like, if you really want the real Yankee jersey that our players have on the field, you're going to have to spend more on. And that one doesn't have names on the back.

[Don LaGreca]

Correct.

[Alan Hahn]

If you want this. What's the word you always use for cocktail? Yes.

[Don LaGreca]

Replica.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Well, I'll throw you this one.

[Don LaGreca]

But that's, like, so mean. That's just. That's. Instead of making it like you can't do it.

[Alan Hahn]

I just.

[Don LaGreca]

Making it prohibitive. That's messed up.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't like that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So since you're.

[Alan Hahn]

It's also like almost like a class thing when you're working in the stadium. You know already like, oh, yeah, you got the one from Walmart, didn't you?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I like that. Since you're a K show casual. When I was. I would always say for years, you just can't have the name on the back. If you're a true Yankee fan, you know, the standard that's set. But I always get pushed back on. Well, it's more expensive. Well, you know what? But that's unfair.

[Don LaGreca]

Your response is never fair. Oh, well, you don't have to have a jersey. It shouldn't be that way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It shouldn't Be that way.

[Don LaGreca]

You should have to have a jersey.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But, you know, it's like I want, like to ride a bike to work. I can't afford one, so I'm gonna ride a tricycle. No, sometimes you go without. Rather than.

[Don LaGreca]

Just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Rather than be a complete ass walking around with a 3 Ruth jersey. I'm just telling you, you're a die hard fan. You look like an ass. Or I can live with that.

[Don LaGreca]

They're doing that to them now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If you want to say, all right, listen, I got a judge on the back. My mom gave it to me. All right, fine, I get it. Maybe I'm being a little crazy, but if you're walking around with a four Garrick, a five DiMaggio, a three roof, but a six barricade, just be a shut in.

[Alan Hahn]

All right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just don't leave.

[Don LaGreca]

But it's.

[Alan Hahn]

But can't you doctor the jersey if you really are embarrassed by the fact that the name's on the back?

[Don LaGreca]

Depends.

[Alan Hahn]

There's. There's no, like, way to just melt off the lettering.

[Don LaGreca]

That would be very hard.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know. Again, I'm not a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what? I. To be honest, in all seriousness, I think the majority of the people that do it just don't think that as much a thing as they should think it is if you're a die hard Yankee.

[Don LaGreca]

But again, why should they think it's that? The Yankees obviously don't think it's that big a deal or they wouldn't sell them. But guess what? They want money, so they do it. And that's a little bit of Yankee fraudulence. Sorry, we're no longer on. Yes. Right. Okay, cool.

[Alan Hahn]

I can't disagree with knowing that I didn't. No, yeah, it's not cool. Because I remember when Nancy Newman put that picture up a couple of weeks ago with the new players in their uniforms hanging up in the pro shop, and I saw the names in the back and I just retweeted and I was just like, it'll never be normal to see names on the back of the jersey. She actually sent me a message on the side saying they also sell them without the names on the back. And I was like, oh, okay, they do. Then why do they sell these? This doesn't make sense. But now you telling me you adding to it that not only do they sell them, but these are the cheaper versions.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I've heard everything.

[Alan Hahn]

Which is like, literally. So it's not authentic. And you're exposing these fans to snobby fans who might say, well, you couldn't afford to buy the real. You're not a real.

[Don LaGreca]

You didn't want to be a real Yankee fan.

[Alan Hahn]

By the way, you weren't really ready to put real money into. How much of a fan are you exactly?

[Don LaGreca]

And by the way, I don't like that. And of course there are hardcore fans out. You know, we always make the joke. But of course there are hardcore fans who have the replicas and it's not fair. And by the way, it's not like a baseball jersey is cheap anymore. I mean they never were. But the Authentics are insane now. And also while we're having this jersey discussion as a jersey collector, the state of jerseys right now across sports is a problem.

[Alan Hahn]

What do you mean by that?

[Don LaGreca]

Quality of jerseys is just down bad. Hockey jerseys are down bad. I don't know. I haven't seen the material. Yes, yes. The last Crosby Authentic I got from like it's pre fanatics, but it was the Reebok. Maybe hockey jersey has been in a bad way the last few years. I don't know if they've stepped up. We know that fanatics dropped the ball and I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Baseball with the baseball last year. Yeah, they got it better. They fixed it.

[Don LaGreca]

The lettering is all fixed now, by the way, they don't have the awkward tiny Mets letters anymore.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They did fix that.

[Don LaGreca]

Okay, good. But, yeah, that's just how I feel.

[Alan Hahn]

No, it's, it's. It's always a conversation to have, especially at the start of the season. And all I started by saying is if you're going to do a third Yankee jersey, which we know they just will never do, but if they were, to me, the spring training dark top doesn't look bad. Seems to fit into the classic traditional look of the Yankees. And it would be. I think it would sell. I think. I'm sure it does sell. I'm sure they sell them, but it would do. Well, that's all I was saying. But then you brought up all the other stuff and you know how people feel away. We have a packed line of calls here at 800 now 193776, so why don't we keep talking to the people, shall we? Danny on Long Island. Danny, what's happening?

[Caller]

In honor of the great Stevie Nicks. I just like to say time makes you bolder. Aaron Rodgers is getting older. I'm getting older.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Don LaGreca]

You know what? Beautifully well done.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Very nice.

[Alan Hahn]

I like that cover.

[Don LaGreca]

Still prefer the Dixie Chicks version, but I love what you've done.

[Caller]

I'm getting myself steeled for the possibility that a Rog and I won't be buying his jersey, by the way, in black and gold. And not only that, but it may looks like Mason Rudolph could be making.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, I mean, my God, he's still around.

[Caller]

He's. He was a Tennessee quarterback last year after they bench Levis. So he's. He's looking for a contract some way. He was. He was room with the.

[Alan Hahn]

Bring him home.

[Caller]

But I have one thing to come. When you go to Hiawatha, can you take George Pickens with you and do something to him in the cave for 14 days, pump him full of something to give him some common sense because he's now playing with a Hall of Fame quarterback and possibly a Hall of Fame wide receiver. Can you grow up and behave yourself, please? I don't know if this is this year could break me if this goes badly.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, I mean, you do have dk, so you have that. But I get when you have DK.

[Caller]

And you have George Pickens, you have to tell the head coach we may have to throw them all more than 14.

[Alan Hahn]

It's not the head coach. It's your offensive coordinator. Well, he wants to run the blame.

[Caller]

Lies the man wearing a crown. And you have to get into 21st century football, which means we're coming out with two great wide receivers. We're throwing the ball over the park.

[Alan Hahn]

And you have a tight end too, don't forget.

[Caller]

I think he's slightly overrated. I mean, I think the guy on the Redskins I'd rather have on the Commodore, they'd rather have him. Whole bunch of tight ends I'd rather have than fry moose. But he's okay.

[Alan Hahn]

Thank you, Dan.

[Caller]

We're all hanging on bated breath waiting to see.

[Alan Hahn]

We're waiting for the white, white puff of smoke. And we'll know where Aaron Rodgers is going to go. Thank you, Danny.

[Don LaGreca]

That was a good call from Danny.

[Alan Hahn]

No. Yeah, it's Steelers fan. He Die Hard. That's what you love about him again.

[Don LaGreca]

Steelers also don't really know Die Hard.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why?

[Don LaGreca]

Kind of in the Yankee convo. Don, hear me out. You're with me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What are you saying?

[Don LaGreca]

Steelers fans don't know Die Hard?

[Alan Hahn]

He's not crazy. They don't know he's not crazy.

[Don LaGreca]

Is there a Steelers Die Hard? You guys have had three coaches in 50 years. You don't know diehard.

[Alan Hahn]

He's not crazy.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm not crazy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You'd have to go back to like the Mark Malone Steelers.

[Don LaGreca]

What year are you talking about?

[Peter Rosenberg]

80S. Like mid-80s.

[Don LaGreca]

So mid-80s was tough. By the time you get to Neil O'Donnell, Tommy Maddox. Tommy Maddox, period is not that brief. It's not a great variable, by the way. It's very great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ushered right into Ben.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

So you had the Bobby Brister, Neil O'Donnell period, which gets the super bow. And then a few years later, you get to Big Ben and get a couple of rings.

[Alan Hahn]

You had Slash. Right. Like you had. You know what I'm talking about?

[Don LaGreca]

No.

[Alan Hahn]

Come on.

[Don LaGreca]

Sure. I don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Slash.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Charlie Batch.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, no.

[Don LaGreca]

I remember Charlie Batch.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, Charlie. Charlie Babbage.

[Don LaGreca]

Just move on.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

Sometimes you got a punt.

[Alan Hahn]

These things happen to me. My brain has.

[Don LaGreca]

Everybody thought. Everybody.

[Alan Hahn]

And I'm about to say it, and then it just. Control.

[Don LaGreca]

Listen, aren't you happy it happened right now, like the middle of get up tomorrow. You care about this just as much. I appreciate.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is home.

[Don LaGreca]

This is like on your. In your living room.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, I always forget him on the air chatting with the boys.

[Don LaGreca]

But no, no, I. Steelers, Don. I could throw the Steelers in the conversation of. You don't get Die Hard.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I'm with you.

[Don LaGreca]

Lakers don't get Die Hard. Celtics don't really get Die Hard.

[Peter Rosenberg]

When was the last time the Steelers were an embarrassment? Even the Mark Maloney, or I'd have to look back. It was. You know, you didn't.

[Don LaGreca]

I mean, you didn't get a two.

[Alan Hahn]

Cordell Stewart.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, Cordell Stewart. Big number 10. Colorado, Colorado. Hell of a player.

[Alan Hahn]

Now they called him Slash because he did everything.

[Don LaGreca]

They called him Slash. I forgot about that. I apologize. That's my fault. You know what? You weren't wrong then. That's us. That's on us.

[Alan Hahn]

I had to use the Google.

[Don LaGreca]

But Don, okay, Celtics, for example, when people have made fun of me at times for being bandwagon, I say, well, you know, my first year really liking The Celtics was 1987. They had won their last ring in 86. They didn't win a title for 21 years. But I still.

[Alan Hahn]

Was Len Bias the motivation.

[Don LaGreca]

No, no. Although that was a big deal in my. In my house. But like, yeah, Maryland. Maryland. The close family friends who kind of led to me becoming a Celtics fan were already around at that time. So it was like a big deal, but. It was a big deal. But no, listen, the Reggie Lewis death, that whole period, it was not a glorious time to be a Celtics fan. But I still would say overall, the Chauncey Billups, the Rick Patino, tough times.

[Alan Hahn]

When we see Rick probably don't Bring that up.

[Don LaGreca]

Hey, remember when you totally stunk up the joint as Celtics had?

[Alan Hahn]

Remember when you said Larry Bird's not walking through that door? Yeah, I think that was a good take. It actually aged well.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, it did age well.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think it's seven. They lost 17 in a row.

[Don LaGreca]

Celtics. Yeah. Was it then, Was it right before the title?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I thought it was the year before.

[Alan Hahn]

I think it was the year before Doc's first year.

[Don LaGreca]

But by the way, we'd already had kg. By the way, we'd already had good years prior to that though, because the Walker Pierce years brought a lot of fun. The incredible Nets comeback game. There was some fun leading up to that.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it got ugly for a minute, but then they got KG and everything, you know, again. Danny ange and Kevin McHale good buddies.

[Don LaGreca]

Yep.

[Alan Hahn]

Making a one sided trade that changed history.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The worst I could see for The Steelers was a 5 and 11 and 88.

[Don LaGreca]

That's. That's not enough. That's not enough to get it. Sorry.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, more your calls coming up. Last call crew and all. Stay with us. Don Han, Rosenberg880 ESPN.

[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don LaGreca]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Don LaGreca]

Peter.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Tomorrow he's not Marching Friday Product. I stumbled upon him.

[Alan Hahn]

It's interesting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I like, I like.

[Alan Hahn]

How would you come across this song? What are you listening to? It's on SiriusXM. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. There was one of the easy listing channels like had like a folk hour or something I stumbled upon and I. I like his stuff and like a lot of folk singers he. You know, he hung himself right in his prime. She's but really good stuff.

[Alan Hahn]

800-919-H Highwayman776 Highwayman. Yeah, I'll make sure not to hear it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, that's not nice.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't love the voice. Just being honest. Like I said. You're not wrong. No, I just for me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

By the way Blanderson Hooper sent the quote with my black and white picture of me the war that ends all.

[Alan Hahn]

Wars is aged well. Is he still on line 7? Is Blanderson still line 7? Let's bring him up here because he wants to entertain us.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Caller]

Hey Don. Hi. Hey Alan. Hey Peter. A Couple of things. First, I don't know if you know this, but the very first three pointer in NBA history was assisted by Tiny Archibald. He doesn't get enough credit for that and he should. 2 Morning. Mutombo and Ewing don't have anything to say about them, but with the Big east tournament coming up, I just wanted to name some Hoyas.

[Don LaGreca]

Yep. 3.

[Caller]

You talk about great covers. Richard, Sheena's cover of Wap Wap by Cardi B. And Megan Stallion. Incredible. And last thing, Don, this is for you because I was watching Wayne's World before, but I don't know if you know this, but the very first NHL player to start to bend his stick was Stan Makita back in the 1950s. Always, always good to talk to you fellas.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, that was amazing. Great job.

[Don LaGreca]

Thanks, Richard. Thanks, Richard. That was good stuff, by the way.

[Alan Hahn]

Blanderson, Hooper.

[Caller]

Who knew I was waiting quite a while to do that. So I hope you guys appreciate it.

[Don LaGreca]

Blanderson, I would like you to set a precedent. I would like at least once a day on this show for someone to call and bring their best Richard from that.

[Caller]

I. I originally had a line in there about asparagus, but once you started talking about the, the. The COVID The COVID songs, I had to find something just completely ridiculous.

[Don LaGreca]

No, no, that's pretty great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You did great.

[Alan Hahn]

Did Tiny Archibald actually assist on the very first three points?

[Caller]

I looked that up. So that way I'm painting with Samakita.

[Alan Hahn]

The key to the thing I will never forget, the Tiny Archibald stat. Now I'll find a way to work that in to a broadcast, an NBA broadcast that I do just.

[Don LaGreca]

Just because very late days. Nate, Tiny Archbold.

[Alan Hahn]

Was it 77? Is that the first year to three point shot? 77.

[Don LaGreca]

78. Didn't. Didn't. Was it. It was there.

[Alan Hahn]

No. 70.

[Don LaGreca]

80. I believe I was going to say, wasn't it Larry's first? Was it? Or was it Larry's second year? Was it 80? 81. Come on, Alan.

[Alan Hahn]

I thought it was 79. 80.

[Don LaGreca]

We'll know in seconds. We got Jacob.

[Alan Hahn]

He's already.

[Don LaGreca]

He's all over it.

[Alan Hahn]

He's 79.

[Don LaGreca]

God, that's even crazy. It's even crazier about the Larry stat that Larry hit so few threes relative to these days and it started when his career started. But it was like it had to be a special.

[Alan Hahn]

No one used it, right? No, no, you had to be special. It was considered a bad shot.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, you don't see that like it.

[Alan Hahn]

Was when you were down 10 with four minutes to go, they got to start putting up some threes. Like it was like this, this, this novelty. Like, oh my God, here comes the three.

[Don LaGreca]

I wonder what the percentage overall in the league was for the first few years for. Had to be brutal.

[Alan Hahn]

Low 30s.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, I would say 34%. Highest.

[Alan Hahn]

32%. I can, I can look that up.

[Don LaGreca]

Although I will say this, this is one thing I got to say about the NBA players of today. I. I am no great ball player. But when I played. Don knows this. I've talked told this before. When I played pickup basketball, my thing was I love to shoot from long range and I had range on the college three point line. I'd comfortably, you know, be way out past it. And that's where I felt good. And in fact, Don, there's the famous video from the celebrity game of me and warmups hitting from like 35. I can do it. When I got on that court though, for warmups on an NBA court and went to the NBA three point line as opposed to what it usually is, which is the college and high school.

[Alan Hahn]

Air'S a little different, isn't it?

[Don LaGreca]

Oh my. It's astoundingly far.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

The fact that like, that they're hitting from there like it's nothing. It's a long shot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I did it. There was pictures of it. I'd have to find it somewhere. When I called those games, three point.

[Alan Hahn]

Percentage in the first season. Sorry, just 28%.

[Don LaGreca]

I knew you. I thought you were high. 28%.

[Alan Hahn]

20. Oh, they were heaving the best. No surprise. The Boston Celtics. Yes, 38.4, which is very respectful even in today's NBA. But they only took five a game as a team.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh yeah, five a game.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So anyways, no, I called the holiday festival over at Madison Square Garden a couple of times and listen, I was in a suit and dress shoes, but still I tried for three. You just look like. Oh my God, it feels like a half court shot.

[Alan Hahn]

Like it's the distance behind is what throws you off.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's why I don't know how they go from playing in arenas. Then they go to the final four and play in the Alamo Dome. You're not even got to get out there all day.

[Alan Hahn]

There was a study done that shooting in the big. The football stadiums, the percentages go way down. There was a whole thing about how they shouldn't play there anymore, but really is stupid. I asked Wally Zerbiak about it and he said it didn't bother him whatsoever. But he's Just a great shooter. Yeah, well, you know, like, I think the great shooters never had a problem. It's just.

[Don LaGreca]

But also, like, okay, I say this as someone who's never gone. I've never been to the Final Four. When the Terps won that year, I went to Syracuse to watch 16 and 8, which was a tremendous. That was. They were on an unreasonable run in that regional, I think. What was it? Kentucky and Michigan State.

[Alan Hahn]

Wow.

[Don LaGreca]

Kentucky and Yukon. I think we beat Kentucky and UConn that weekend, but that's pretty good. But it was at the Carrier Dome, and they cut half of it off to make it more bearable.

[Alan Hahn]

They put the curtain up, the curtains up.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, but, like, I just think it's stupid that they put it in these gigantic buildings. Like, what. What's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Was the last one? The Meadowlands 96?

[Alan Hahn]

The Last Arena?

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, that sounds right.

[Alan Hahn]

Wasn't that Syracuse, the roof?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, that was, you know, Carmelo, and the roof was leaking. Remember, they had to stop play.

[Don LaGreca]

But no, like, seriously, is it that many people really need to go to the final? They need to sell 50. Do they sell 50,000 tickets?

[Alan Hahn]

The final Four, just like the super bowl is the convention of the sport, so the Final Four, you know how many coaches go there? And it's basically like, you want to get a job somewhere. Like, that's. Everybody convenes, the audience is massive.

[Don LaGreca]

So you can't do that in a place like New York where, like, the Javits has Radio Row and all the stuff. But then the games at the Garden.

[Alan Hahn]

They want it all in one building.

[Don LaGreca]

It just feels stupid. Is it. I wonder from someone who goes. I wonder if it's. When you're in there, is the place actually full or are they generally draping off 20,000 seats anyway?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, they used to. Now they put. They put it in the middle. They put the court in the middle of the. Of the stadium, and then they just bring in more bleachers.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, and then the weird thing where you have the race, the court, the raised court, which is bizarre.

[Alan Hahn]

You have to.

[Don LaGreca]

That's so weird.

[Alan Hahn]

800 now. 3, 7, 7, 6. Griffin in Connecticut on line seven. Griffin wants to talk to Peter.

[Caller]

Hey, first off, with that. That conversation that you were having when they have the courts raised up because you're playing in a football game, that scares me. I'm always scared of somebody diving for that basketball, falling over and getting seriously hurt. That just gets me so nervous.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it is. But there's so much distance from the edge of the court. It's rare but you're right. You chase after a loose ball. You never know.

[Caller]

Yeah. Peter.

[Don LaGreca]

Yes.

[Caller]

So you said Yankee fans and Steeler fans, they don't know what Die Hard is. Well then are you really a diehard Celtic fan? Because have you really had a long measure both time as a Celtic fan?

[Don LaGreca]

Griffin, was the show on, was the show audio there when you were on hold?

[Caller]

Maybe. Maybe that's when I was eating.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, boy. Yeah, because I definitely said. Exactly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, I shut down when I eat too.

[Don LaGreca]

Griff, I love you, but I literally said the Celtics are in. Like I had a 20 year period where they didn't win and there was some down stuff for sure, some really sad times. But no, I think Celtics fans have a tough, a tough time arguing it. But they did have a period that was legit.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, well, that 17 losing streak is embarrassing.

[Don LaGreca]

But not. But Don, even before that, like I'm talking about post Reggie Lewis dying and pre Paul Pierce becoming a star, they have a gap. Reggie Lewis dies, I believe in 94 and Paul Pierce comes along in what, 99, 2000. It's only a five or six year period where they're completely dreadful. Although they're not great right away with that. So yeah, they maybe had seven, eight years of being really bad.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm gonna show you how old I am because this stuff exists through social media. But like when we were growing up, there would be like those Xeroxes of like jokes. Like when your team was really bad, it would go around the office or maybe during the early times of email where your Giants are bad or Mets are bad and. And they'll come up with some stupid joke. If your team hasn't had that happen in your lifetime where you're the butt of jokes that it's embarrassing to wear the jersey, where people are laughing at you, that you root for them, then you really don't really Die Hard, in my opinion. Yeah, losing hurts. I get it. Of course, if you love a team, sure, yeah, losing hurts. But a Die Hard is somebody that still will wear that jersey even though people will make fun of them, will still watch every single game even though they're completely meaningless because the team's out of it.

[Alan Hahn]

Correct.

[Peter Rosenberg]

To me, that's the definition of Die Hard.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. The only team that I make that argument about for me in my life is the commanders. Yeah, that was actual legit you're talking about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not just for football reasons, for other reasons too.

[Don LaGreca]

But you know, it's 2015. We're 26 years removed from a title Robert Griffin's career just disappeared. We're nothing. We do nothing but lose. Everything's a joke. And I watch every single week that I'm sure.

[Alan Hahn]

Absolutely.

[Don LaGreca]

Your owners are complete embarrassment.

[Alan Hahn]

So in New York then, if we were going to do this, what is the fan base in New York?

[Don LaGreca]

Jets.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Jets.

[Alan Hahn]

Jets.

[Don LaGreca]

Number one. They are the number one.

[Alan Hahn]

Die hardest, die hard fan base there could be.

[Don LaGreca]

And I would say, and I would say Knicks too.

[Alan Hahn]

Islanders. Their owner was in jail.

[Don LaGreca]

I know, but the island fraud. But the Islanders run in the 80s was so great.

[Alan Hahn]

You know how many people of the fan base now like remember that you have to the Don. You remember the late 90s from 94 forward fisherman logo era. There were fans that like you hated that logo. Did they wearing it was disgusting.

[Don LaGreca]

Did they fill the building? Did they still fill the building?

[Alan Hahn]

No, it was always.

[Don LaGreca]

But that's, that's why painfully. But the Nick fan never dies. They seem to come back no matter what.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They don't go away. Like, listen, the Knicks and the Rangers during bad times may not necessarily sell out the Garden, but the Rangers have won one championship since 1940. And maybe, maybe there are a couple of hundred shy of a sellout, like in a game in November against the Flames. So they would be up there too. But I'm just looking at the suffering Jet fans have been through and yet still they usually pack the place. Unless it's like late in the season, the weather's bad, they're not going to go. But like they still want to stick with their teams and made fun of in movies and sitcoms like where it's just. It's a joke. And yet they still love their team. It's so easy to walk away from that. That's what I'm saying. The Yankee fan has. There, there is Yankee fans that have that are. That are over the age of 40 that never experienced being embarrassed by their team.

[Don LaGreca]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Maybe you were embarrassed. Oh, they didn't win the championship. I'm embarrassed by that. But to where you put on a Yankee hat and you were gonna get ridiculed as you walk down the street. You'd have to go back to like early 90s, early 90s, those years. Stump Merrill, like you're gonna have Bucky Dent managing the team like. And again, we're talking like very late 80s, early 90s. And I'm sorry, you'd have to be 40 plus to have any kind of vivid remembrance of that whatsoever.

[Alan Hahn]

I think that's fair. But I mean, again, talk about owner George went through what he went through the whole investigation. You know that, that whole thing. If you watch it's embarrassing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What is it? Ken Burns baseball documentary, which is a big deal. It came out in 94. I was talking about this with Michael the other day. If you. It just happened to be on at a hotel. I was away with the Rangers like a couple of years ago and it was on and I kind of watched. It was not like a pbs. And you know, sometimes depending on the hotel, you're desperate for anything to be on. Especially if you're like in Canada.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And that was made in 1994. And the episode ends of them just how Steinbrenner has ruined this once great franchise. Like kind of ridiculed where the Yankees were. That was 1994. Like that's 30 plus years ago. And oh, by the way, 95 playoffs, 96 World Series. So turned it around. They overcame it. So. So you'd have to be if you.

[Alan Hahn]

Remember, I mean, 94. They were very good.

[Don LaGreca]

They were very good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But the documentary, like, like it was done.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, yeah. But that 94 season, they would have not for the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The strike. Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, we'll finish up with your calls. Last call crew 800 now 193776.

[Don LaGreca]

But first, Peter, I also just realized, Jacob, I forgot about D'Angelo's cruising, which is of course a cover of Smokey's.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, yeah, that's actually pretty good.

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

The original, there it is right there. Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid Movie soundtrack for him.

[Don LaGreca]

Bet you is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I thought he sold out. It's worse than going electric.

[Alan Hahn]

Think so.

[Don LaGreca]

Strong.

[Alan Hahn]

It's a good zone though. But I forgot like, like that Guns N Roses did the two covers because again, Living Let Die. That was. Yeah, that was a really good cover. Last call Crew 800-919-3776. John in Bethlehem Hey John.

[Caller]

Hey guys. How we doing?

[Alan Hahn]

Good.

[Caller]

All right. Two points before I get well and one point before I get to my nick. Point. One cover song you should check out is Post Malone's cover of Hoodie and the Blowfish. Only want to be with you. It's not like an all time great but the vibe.

[Don LaGreca]

I just want to say, on paper, what you just said was the most repug thing I've ever heard.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why do you say that?

[Don LaGreca]

Post Malone's cover of Hooting the Blowfish is like saying, you have to try. You have to try. My mom makes the best mushroom version of dog feces. You know what I mean?

[Alan Hahn]

We don't like Hootie and the Blowfish all of a sudden. Not a big Darius Rucker guy, by the way.

[Don LaGreca]

By the way, obviously I like that song. Everyone likes the song who doesn't like that song? But you guys consider. You fancy yourself to be a Hootie fan?

[Alan Hahn]

I like Hootie.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. It's not terrible.

[Caller]

I like Hootie. I like Hootie.

[Alan Hahn]

Not terrible. Sure.

[Don LaGreca]

You know what I'm saying?

[Alan Hahn]

It's a great line from Jerry Maguire. Are you Hootie? Yeah. No, I am not Hootie.

[Don LaGreca]

Hootie. By the way, Darius Rucker not. Not a fan of being called Hootie. I don't believe.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't think so. But he's done well since the blow.

[Don LaGreca]

Sure.

[Alan Hahn]

Your next point, John.

[Caller]

Yeah. So obviously tonight's a must win. I wanted to look a little bit. I want to look a little further, like to Saturday if town does not have like a 50 point triple double. Especially after what Draymond Green said. I. Oh my God.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I.

[Caller]

Drama on. Green just grinds my gears.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Caller]

How are you gonna say something so baseless and like have it like, say nonsense on a podcast and like, I.

[Alan Hahn]

God, 50 point, 50 point triple doubles. Asking a little bit. I get it. I mean, it'd be nice if he just had himself a strong game. I think it would be a good game for PJ Tucker to make his Knicks debut. Would you agree? If there's ever a game for him to step in, that might be the one.

[Caller]

Honestly. Honestly, him and Tucker, that would like, be like a nice little, like momentum shift game, hopefully. Yeah, well, like a little bit of our edge back.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. And that's. That's definitely necessary. Thank you, John. I mean, again, I'm. I'm looking at tonight, watching it closely because that's. I want to see a little more attitude, the same attitude that they had in Sacramento in this game. To me, it, you know, this feels like the must win business type of approach to a game where you're supposed to win. They're going to be favored. I haven't checked the line, but I'm sure they're heavily favored in this game and they got to get this one. It Evens you up on the road trip and then it sets you up two days off and then you play Saturday night again. National tv. That has not been kind.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, so you're calling it a must win.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So their style points, like, you win this game by one in overtime. You can. You have a wins.

[Alan Hahn]

A wins. A win, wins. A wins. A win.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't like that take.

[Don LaGreca]

You can't go for.

[Alan Hahn]

You need it to be a blowout. They've been giving teams a hard time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're calling it a must win. Yeah, because you don't respect the opponent. You want them to make a statement. All right, a win's a win. I get it. But if they look ugly, I decided.

[Alan Hahn]

To respect the opponent because I did tell you they. I've noticed they've been giving teams a hard time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But you're saying it's a game that they absolutely should win. They should win or it's a must win. And so listen. Yeah, you take the win, but you can't have like a style point. Like, yeah, you're not going to completely destroy them because they won the game, but if they play like garbage and should have lost the game.

[Don LaGreca]

Don, I know you're saying words, but.

[Alan Hahn]

More important than you, Nick's favored by four and a half.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm told that we have the mushroom flavored feces available. Jacob, let's hear the Post Malone hooting. The blowfish.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, you're right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It is a box, by the way.

[Don LaGreca]

No, I'm enjoying it, actually.

[Alan Hahn]

No, this is terrible.

[Don LaGreca]

I don't mind it because one more.

[Alan Hahn]

Time by Travis is better than this.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, that. That broke me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not enough.

[Don LaGreca]

Let me hear this part. Let's hear this part.

[Alan Hahn]

This is so not Post Malone. It's so bubble gum.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, as opposed to.

[Alan Hahn]

This is bubble gum.

[Caller]

Bubble gum.

[Don LaGreca]

As opposed to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

To what?

[Don LaGreca]

The hardcore version of I only want to be with you. It's not exactly f. The police.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The dolphins make me a crying.

[Alan Hahn]

It's off the Pokemon soundtrack, by the way.

[Don LaGreca]

Is it really?

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, there you go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what? And the dolphins troll the song. Right?

[Don LaGreca]

I love that. Alan. This is so bubblegum. As opposed to Post Malone or Hootie and the Blowfish, who are both bubblegum.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, but this is like he. He took it and made it worse.

[Don LaGreca]

I don't think so.

[Alan Hahn]

He made it just. But now that you told me it was on some kids movie soundtrack.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, it works like kids bop.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it definitely felt like a kid.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So what? He was in some kids movie. I watched with the twins.

[Don LaGreca]

Which one?

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's what I'm trying to remember.

[Don LaGreca]

Was it the live action one about the concert? No, they wouldn't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

You watched that movie with the kids about the. About the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yes, yes. Day. I think it was. Was it yesterday? No, no, no. The. The Santa. The one with.

[Don LaGreca]

Yes, the. Was it Sandler? Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it was Jack Black.

[Don LaGreca]

Yes, the Jack Black.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, we did watch it. Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, I like that. The kids got it. They found that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Was it Santa was. What was it called? Satan.

[Don LaGreca]

But it was the Satan Santa movie. And Post was good in that movie.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, he was.

[Alan Hahn]

Coming up next.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, my God.

[Alan Hahn]

You'll get the Knicks and the Trailblazers after that. I'll see you on msg and we'll see you tomorrow. Don't forget Friday. Irish exit. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.

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