Hour 4: Superstars

Summary

Podcast Summary: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg — Hour 4: Superstars Release Date: June 12, 2025

In the fourth hour of the "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" podcast, hosts Don Hahn, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg delve into a variety of topics ranging from music nostalgia and legal news to in-depth discussions about what defines a superstar in the sports world. The episode provides listeners with insightful commentary, humorous banter, and thought-provoking debates, all anchored by the hosts' extensive experience in sports and entertainment.

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1. Nostalgia for Yacht Rock and Christopher Cross

The episode kicks off with a nostalgic trip down memory lane as the hosts discuss the enduring appeal of yacht rock, focusing particularly on Christopher Cross's groundbreaking debut album.

• Peter Rosenberg reminisces about the "soulful" sounds of the 80s, highlighting an ESPN segment featuring the top 40 hits from 1981:

  "Now, I found this out because on 80s on eight last weekend, they did the top four 40 from 1981. And that's yacht rock heaven right there." (00:21)

• Dan Grassa and Zach Rosenblatt engage in a lively debate about whether Christopher Cross deserves the title "King of Yacht Rock," ultimately acknowledging Cross's significant Grammy achievements:

  "His first album won five Grammys... That's like the king of yacht rock right there." (00:47)

• The hosts discuss the rarity of winning multiple Grammys with a debut album, comparing Cross to Lauryn Hill and Billie Eilish:

  "Lauryn Hill... did that. Like, that's not. That's rarefied air to do that with your debut at the Grammys." (02:51)

2. Legal Troubles for Silento

Shifting gears, the hosts bring up surprising legal news about the rapper Silento, best known for his viral hit "Watch Me (Whip/Nae Nae)."

• Dan Grassa shares the news that Silento has been sentenced to 30 years in prison for killing his cousin:

  "He's been sentenced to 30 years for killing his cousin. It was caught on a security camera." (03:33)

• The discussion touches on the stark contrast between Silento's fame from music and his real-life actions:

  "It's a far cry from the Christopher Cross tale original." (04:29)

3. Local Sports Updates: Mets, Tigers, Nationals, Yankees

The conversation transitions to current happenings in the local sports scene, providing listeners with up-to-date information on various teams.

• Peter Rosenberg updates on the Mets' performance, mentioning Kodai Senga's hamstring injury and the team's impressive 21-game win streak:

  "Kodai Senga... strained hamstring... the Mets do win and right now have the best record of Major League Baseball." (04:46)

• The hosts also briefly discuss the Yankees' ongoing series against the Royals and Judge's absence:

  "Judge getting a day arrest... That’s probably smart, right?" (05:28)

4. Defining 'Superstars' in Sports

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to dissecting the concept of what makes an athlete a "superstar," inspired by Magic Johnson's recent comments.

• Dan Grassa references Magic Johnson's definition of a superstar:

  "A superstar is a player that you earn that label when you are in the on ... you fill the building on the road because people want to see you play." (05:40)

• The hosts debate the casual use of the term "superstar" in sports, distinguishing between true superstars and highly respected players:

  "I feel like we use superstar too casually in sports... But we keep doing this because the superstars you have in this league at least are aging." (07:37)

• Zach Rosenblatt points out examples from different sports, such as Jaden Daniels in football and Leon Draisaitl in hockey, questioning whether their status meets the superstar criteria:

  "Jaden Daniels became a superstar in year one... Leon Draisaitl is amazing... he can't be a superstar if he's playing with Connor McDavid." (08:38 - 09:43)

• The discussion extends to basketball, comparing legendary duos like Shaq and Kobe to current players, emphasizing the rarity of having multiple true superstars on one team:

  "Shaq and Kobe are interesting... They was two separate entities that came together... that's what makes it so rare. Real superstars." (10:29 - 11:08)

5. New York Jets: Management and Fan Expectations

The latter part of the episode shifts focus to the New York Jets, examining the team's recent performance, management decisions, and the impact on the fanbase.

• Peter Rosenberg criticizes the Jets' front office for relying heavily on public relations and pre-season narratives without delivering tangible results on the field:

  "It's all just window dressing, and it means nothing until you go out there and win games." (15:25)

• Dan Grassa shares his personal experiences as a Jets fan, recounting past hopes tied to high-profile players like Aaron Rodgers and the subsequent disappointments:

  "I was so smitten... I had to learn my lesson. The hard way is you can't fall in love with the regular season, the off season." (14:33)

• The hosts discuss the appointment of Aaron Glenn and Jackson Dart, debating whether these leadership changes signal a genuine turnaround or are merely superficial efforts to appease fans:

  "They're trying to sell a future, they're trying to sell something new... But don't sell us a bill of goods. Go out there and win." (17:07 - 18:09)

6. Fan Behavior and Social Media Trends

Towards the end, the hosts engage in a lighthearted exchange about a trending TikTok where a fan names his newborn daughter after football player Jaden Daniels.

• Zach Rosenblatt defends the fan's actions, explaining that the name choice was genuine and not merely performative:

  "My naming wasn't performative, though. My wife chose the name. She loved the name." (19:15 - 19:39)

• Peter Rosenberg maintains that such actions are a display of fan pride, regardless of intentions:

  "It's all because you're a fan. You're trying to show how big a fan you are of him." (19:25 - 19:45)

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Notable Quotes:

• "It's all just window dressing, and it means nothing until you go out there and win games." — Peter Rosenberg (15:25)

• "A superstar is a player that you earn that label when you are in the on ... you fill the building on the road because people want to see you play." — Dan Grassa (05:40)

• "My naming wasn't performative, though. My wife chose the name. She loved the name." — Zach Rosenblatt (19:16)

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This episode of "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" offers listeners a blend of nostalgic reflection, current events analysis, and critical discussions on sports culture, all presented with the hosts' characteristic wit and expertise. Whether you're a long-time fan or new to the show, this hour provides valuable insights into what truly defines greatness in the world of sports.

Transcript

[Don Hahn]

This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That sounds like heaven to me.

[Don Hahn]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 880 ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So would you say this is soulful, Peter?

[Dan Grassa]

This is very soulful.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, I found this out because on 80s on eight last weekend, they did the top four 40 from 1981. And that's. That's yacht rock heaven right there.

[Dan Grassa]

Oh, yeah, that's the one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So Christopher Cross, his first album, won five Grammys. Like the. It. It's almost never done. Where he won album of the year. Like, there was. There's five cattle. He was the artist of the year.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Best new artist, Best new artist.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think he was the best song. Like, there were five things that he hit, and it had not been done until like, 2020. So it had been like almost 40 years. Like that. That first album with the Arthur's Theme and Sailing, it was. It was a monster album. So that's like the king of yacht rock right there.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

But he's not the king of yacht rock. But yes, I hear what you're saying.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, that album, King of yacht rock.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Well, he's not the Cross. I mean, there's so many people. I mean, Holland Oates and Kenny Loggins are more.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I am. Listen, there might be some songs that you could say Hole and Oats is yacht rock, but I wouldn't consider Hole and Oats yacht rock.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

I mean, their whole. Their whole greatest hits is basically. Is in the category.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like Kiss on my list is not a yacht rock song. No, I don't think so.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

I mean, it's pretty close. It's pretty close. I mean, either way, they're in the genre, no matter how you cut it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I guess you could fall, you know, Pablo and they're.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

And they're. And they're gigantic. And Kenny Loggins is too. And he's gigantic.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, listen, I don't think it has anything to do with obscurity. I mean, there's some big. Kenny.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Well, you said Cross is King Cross. That's a strong statement for Cross.

[Dan Grassa]

Just. Just to be clear, the Arthur seems is not on his debut album.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, boy.

[Dan Grassa]

But it still has some amazing sailings on it, obviously. Ride like the Wind and Never Be the Same. Those were monster hits. Arthur. What was. Wasn't Arthur Steam just. Just on the soundtrack?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It might have just been on the soundtrack.

[Dan Grassa]

Yeah, because if you edit. If you put that on that album. Forget it. Now you're talking about. But. But I just named three songs that were mega hits then. And and then you add the theme from Arthur. That's four. He. He's royalty. If you don't want to call him the king, he's royalty. I'm with Don.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

It's a very. King is. I would call it a big exaggeration, but he.

[Dan Grassa]

This is a podcast we need to do, boys. I'm sorry.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

But he is. That is a great piece of trivia, though, Don. Yeah, that's excellent because, like, the only the people in that category. Lauryn Hill, for what is regarded as literally one of the greatest albums ever made, did that. Like, that's not. That's rarefied air to do that with your debut at the Grammys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. And I guess it's the first time it had been done and in 2020, Billie Eilish did it.

[Dan Grassa]

Yeah, that's.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

That's pretty rare stuff.

[Dan Grassa]

Did you see this story? Speaking of music now, is it Cilento? You know who that is? Yeah, Silento Cilento. You remember the song, the. Watch Me Whip. Watch Me Nae nae.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan Grassa]

Every little kid loves that song. I guess he was. I didn't even know this was going on. Sentence to 30 years for killing his cousin. Oh, this just went. Came down this afternoon. Did you. I mean, I had no idea. He's 27 years old. 30 years. He shot his cousin and it was a security camera caught him.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

I had not heard. First of all, I wouldn't have remembered if I would have. I wouldn't have been able to remember his name with. If, you know, if he was pointing the gun at me, I wouldn't have gotten.

[Dan Grassa]

Well, but you know the song, which is.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

But of course.

[Dan Grassa]

But it drops.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

But of course. But that's. This story didn't even make it to my right.

[Dan Grassa]

But it's timeline until.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Right.

[Dan Grassa]

It's a crazy story. He actually. He pleaded guilty, but said he was mentally ill. What a story.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

It's a far cry from the Christopher Cross tale original.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Dan Grassa]

No, but it was music and I just found it interesting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And if you wanted to shorten Christopher's name to Chris, it's a completely different thing. Right.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Kris Kross, totally different artists altogether.

[Dan Grassa]

All together. That's early 90s. Exactly. Transition, please.

[Peter Rosenberg]

1-800-9193776 a lot, you know, to talk about the Knicks and then the Mets with their win, even though they did lose. Kodai Senga, in case you missed it, strained hamstring. It happened recording the second out in the sixth inning as he was covering first base on a grounder to Alonzo but the Mets do win and right now have the best record of Major League Baseball. See what the Tigers do later. But 21 games above.500 after sweeping the Nationals, David Peterson pitched a complete game, shut out yesterday. And again, it's the Nationals. They're seven games under, but still, they're having one heck of a season. Yankees continue their series in Kansas City with the Royals.

[Dan Grassa]

Again one in the judge tonight. Say again, no judge tonight out of the lineup.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, Judge getting a day arrest.

[Dan Grassa]

So no reason.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I can see this disappointed Kansas City Royal fans and figured, you know, I want to see Judge play. But that's probably smart, right?

[Dan Grassa]

Do you agree with, with this assessment? So Magic Johnson made the rounds today. He's in New York briefly as he stops on his way to his yacht vacation in Europe. But he, he said something about superstars that I wonder if you guys agree because I've felt this way too. You know, we throw that around super. He's a superstar and Magic said that. A superstar that he feels like you earn that label when you are in the On. Speaking of Judge, when you are on the road and you fill the building because people want to see you play, other than that, you're not a superstar. There are star All Stars. You make the all star team, you're a really good player, you're known within the sport. But superstars are rarefied air. Superstars, the guy that fills the building on the road, you're that good. People want to come see you play. Like when that team comes in, you circle and you come and say, aaron Judge, great example. Come to Kansas City. I bet you there's more fans. Not just because it's the Yankees, because also because of Aaron Judge.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Then that's you. The whole load management conversation is when LeBron James is going to take a day off for KD, fans on the road are like, wait a minute. I waited all year to see him come to my building and now I'm going to miss him. And then when you apply that, like Halliburton, Brunson, like certain names where these guys are stars, they're great players. But other than Knick fans, if you're, I don't know, you're in Memphis or you go like, I got to go to the Nick game, I got to see Brunson play. Now Nick fans are going to say, yeah, definitely. But honestly, is that somebody that if Brunson didn't play, would you want your money back? Or would you say, okay, we got a better chance to win tonight, you know?

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Yeah, Brunson super respected. I do not think he's a run to the arena.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, not. Not yet. I mean, he's appreciated. He's good. And listen, Halliburton's good too, right?

[Zach Rosenblatt]

By the way, Halliburton's not that either.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, Halliburton's not that. And.

[Dan Grassa]

Yeah, and that's why the ratings are the way they are. I just.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

That's right.

[Dan Grassa]

Like, I feel like we use superstar too casually in sports. And it's getting to that point where I always push back. Because then, of course, on these shows it's always, you know, if Halliburton wins, this is. Does he become a superstar? No. If SGA wins this, is he now the new face of the NBA? No. Like, definitively, no. But we keep doing this because the superstars you have in this league at least are aging. The NFL doesn't have that problem because we know who the superstars are. Like the idea. Like, why I asked Joe Theisman earlier in the show and you can listen on our podcast if you missed it in the first hour, I asked him about Josh Allen finally breaking through this year because it is pretty amazing that the Bills, according to Vegas, are favored to win every game this season. They are the favorite in every game this season. So it says a lot about what they can be. He's a superstar. Like, that's a real thing. But in the NBA, you're not. You don't have it in Major league Baseball, you don't have a lot of them.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

It's interesting, though, in football, man, it can happen so fast with just play.

[Dan Grassa]

Yeah.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

You don't need more than like, you guys are. I don't think this is my personal bias. Jaden Daniels became a superstar in year one.

[Dan Grassa]

Oh, yeah.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Assuming he continues to be that he is now. Must see tv. If you are casual and you're thinking about a game, you go, ooh, they got the commanders. Kind of want to see Jaden Daniels play. That's immediately a thing in football. With big offensive players. In football, that is a thing almost.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right away now I wonder, can the team. Can your teammate hurt that in the sense of like, you go back to Pippen and Jordan. My Pippen's a star man, hall of Famer. But was he ever a superstar? Because how could he be when Jordan's next to him?

[Dan Grassa]

Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, the best example right now is, listen, Leon Draisaitl is amazing.

[Dan Grassa]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He is a gifted player. He's 100 point scorer. He could score 50 goals. He is as good a player as there is in the National Hockey League. But he can't be a superstar if he's playing with Connor McDavid.

[Dan Grassa]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If Edmonton comes to the Rock and you find out that McDavid's not playing but Draisaitliz, you're gonna be really disappointed if you find that McDavid's playing and dry Saddle's not. You can be like, I'm good. I'm going to get to see McDavid.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Malkin and Jagger were never true superstars in Pittsburgh. Jagger became a superstar after he left Pittsburgh. In Pittsburgh, he was the second guy.

[Dan Grassa]

That's actually a really good one because, yeah, Jagger. I thought Jagger became a superstar when Gretzky retired. And then he was the man in the league. He just didn't want to. To have to be that and be the voice and all that stuff. But that's an interesting one. So what we're saying, the pairings, Shaq and Kobe, both superstars.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Ah, there you go.

[Dan Grassa]

Right. Like. Like, no matter what, one of them.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Although.

[Dan Grassa]

Although it's def.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But you know what's interesting with Shaq and Kobe? What if they both came up together with the Lakers? Like, Shaq established himself as a superstar before he got to la.

[Dan Grassa]

Yeah, if.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If they.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

If in LA to start.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know if Shaq's the superstar.

[Dan Grassa]

Oh, now. Well, Wade got together and. And again, they was two separate entities that came together. But that team was a traveling circus because you had two superstars. That's what makes it so rare. Real superstars. Not like Fugazi is the Suns. Oh, three superstars. Bradley Beal is not a superstar. He's a great player.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Never was. Never a superstar.

[Dan Grassa]

Devin Booker, who I absolutely love, not really a superstar. No, they tried to.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Shaq and Kobe are interesting, by the way, because they got there in totally different ways, too. Yeah, well, Shaq. Shaq was a superstar from the second he got on campus at lsu. Kobe had to develop over a few years in the league to be a superstar.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We have an interesting comment from Quincy Williams of the Jets.

[Dan Grassa]

Really?

[Peter Rosenberg]

We will tell you what that is and lead you up till 7:00 clock in Dan Grasso right here on ESPN New York.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg Podcast.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

Catch this show. Demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Zach Rosenblatt from the Athletic this out just moments ago Aaron Glenn said Quincy Jones told him. Quincy Jones, Quincy Williams, sorry. All respect in the world. Quincy should be take that as a compliment. Aaron Glenn said Quincy Williams told him. The reason I knew that things were changing is because there was no bitching about anything as far as how we do things because we're doing things different. All right, great. But you know, I don't need to hear that through Aaron Glenn Yes. I mean if Quincy Williams says it, if we had him on the air and he said it, then it obviously adds value. But for I'm not saying that Glenn's lying, it's just that, you know, it hits different coming from the guy that's changing things.

[Dan Grassa]

So the guys told me they like the way I'm coaching.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Dan Grassa]

Like okay, this is what I mean from earlier today.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's, it's all. And I'm not going to. I get it. It's last two years been really bad, really tough for the jets and their fans and they're trying to get up from under that. I get it. But all this stuff doesn't mean anything until you go out there and you start winning games. But I think the Jet PR knows the fan base and knows that they're going to gobble this all up. Remember the all Gas no break fans love that from Salah and then you Start losing and it doesn't matter. Like, I'm sorry. I've been around the block enough with this team to where. You know what? When I see it, then we'll. Then. Then we'll have the conversation. All this. All this is just window dressing, and it means nothing.

[Dan Grassa]

This is really. That experience from two years ago really changed me as a Jets fan, because that was Camelot, that was Aaron Rodgers, you know, in the Lonely Lombardi. And. And it just. How Hard Knocks was just. It was theater. It was so great. It was just looked like this guy is just going to bring everything together, and the jets are going to be great this year, and I can't wait. And then, of course, the Achilles snapped, and then they went back to being the jets, and so. But I was so in full bloom, love. I was so smitten. I was caught up in it. And I'll never be fooled again. Like, that's the problem. I fell in love with the off season, and I had to learn my lesson. The hard way is you can't you fall in love with the regular season, the off season. It doesn't mean anything.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, it's all just the window dressing of just trying to convince the fans that things are going to be different. And I think the fans are smart enough to know. They'll know when it's different, because if you start winning games and playoff games, it'll be different.

[Dan Grassa]

Right. Winning is different.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I stop with the Tim Tebow. Oh, yeah. They're doing SportsCenter up at Cortland. It's all going to be different now. And Rex Ryan riding future super bowl champions. Yeah. And it's. It's all just window dressing. It's all just. It's a mirage. It's what you do before you have to go do something. Right. Right. It's a Peter. It's like a great promo in wrestling.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Go ahead.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, it's all just to get you excited, but, you know, if you go out there and you get pinned in 30 seconds, what did it matter?

[Zach Rosenblatt]

What did the promo mean? Well said.

[Dan Grassa]

It's. The trailer gets you excited to see it, but you still got to see it and tell me if you liked it.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

But.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But what it does is it just sets you up for even for it to be worse. Like, this is your opportunity to reset the whole thing. Like, this is what my narrative would be. Listen, we went for it. We thought Aaron Rodgers was going to work. Unfortunately, tore his Achilles. It didn't work. We're making some changes here. We're bringing In Aaron Glenn. Let's see what happens. All right. Jet fans, they're going to sell out the building. They care about the team. We don't have to worry about that. Just, hey, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to reset here and we're going to try our best to get back to the playoffs and we're going to do it and trust us. Instead of the whole like just this narrative of just. It's all make believe.

[Dan Grassa]

Doesn't it feel like because Giants have their camp next week, Right. It feels so much like jets off season so far has been all about Aaron Glenn. Giants off season so far has been all about Jackson Dart, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, that's right.

[Dan Grassa]

Well, just feels like Jackson Dart is the. Is the gift that you just want to keep opening and tell how wonderful he is and how exciting this is. And it's like Justin Fields is here and that's interesting. But the new coach is the bigger.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Deal and we're just grasping and. And the great thing about Aaron Glenn is that he's been here before.

[Dan Grassa]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He was a part of a successful team. He's attached himself to Bill Parcell. So there's a lot to sell there. And Jackson Dart is not, you know, what they had before quarterback. And so you're selling a future, you're selling something new and that's what you're trying to. And I get it. It's been a bad couple of years. I get it. But I still think it was worth the try. Right. I think Rogers didn't work out, but. And guys lost their job because of it and rightly so, but they went for it, didn't work and now they're pivoting and doing the right thing and kind of cleaning it all up. But don't sell us a bill of goods. Go out there and win.

[Dan Grassa]

Yeah, it's just all talk.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it's too much.

[Dan Grassa]

Peter.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Back it up, baby.

[Dan Grassa]

Yeah, Peter.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Hi.

[Dan Grassa]

I want to see how big of a Commander's fan are you? I'm seeing something trending that I need to discuss before the end of the show. Ready? So there's a fan who's trending now it's started on Tick Tock. He showed his newborn baby. It looks like a girl.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Oh, I saw this.

[Dan Grassa]

A 54 minute highlight reel of Jaden Daniels the minute she was born. I don't think her eyes are open. He's holding a phone showing the highlight video of Jaden Daniels. Yeah, I saw that's. Is that it now? Is that. Don Is that a fan or is that a psycho?

[Zach Rosenblatt]

No, it's someone trying to just to do something to be on social media.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think it's a fan.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

My question is, did you. Did you name the baby after Jaden Daniels or not? You know what I mean?

[Dan Grassa]

You know, you want to know details?

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Yeah, I did. I did the real thing. I'm not going to torture my baby who can't even see yet with video. What I'm going to do is name her after Jaden Daniel. That's how you do it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And don't take this the wrong way, Peter. It's all performative.

[Dan Grassa]

I mean, it's all just, you know, notice, right?

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Yeah, but I mean, how big a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Fan you are, that's all.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

My naming wasn't performative, though. My wife chose the name. She loved the name. She saw it, she said, I love Jade. And I said, okay, done.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's all because you're a fan. You're trying to show how big a fan you are of. Of him. That's. You're proud of it.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

Yeah, I mean, I sure am.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's about time in that sense. Damn time.

[Zach Rosenblatt]

I appreciate it. I mean, the word performative.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know maybe there's a negative. It's not. It's not level or zip it, but, you know, I would like to take it.

[Dan Grassa]

Well done. Wow. Words hurt. You went there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But Dan Grassa is up next. Thanks to to Ray Dinahan and Joe Leo for the two hours on the Michael K show. And of course, Jacob and Anthony. It was a fun 6 hours and 4 with my guys Han and Rosenberg. We'll do this Again tomorrow at 3 on ESPN New York.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Dan Grassa]

I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good.

[Don Hahn]

Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.