Hour 4: Tape Delay & Sports Phone

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg — Hour 4: Tape Delay & Sports Phone

Date: May 28, 2026
Hosts: Alan Hahn, Don La Greca, Peter Rosenberg
Theme: New York sports nostalgia, the evolution of sports broadcasting, and memorable stories about how fans once accessed sports scores before the internet age.

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Episode Overview

This hour delves into sports nostalgia, focusing on how fans experienced games in the era before instant updates and live streams. The hosts—alongside callers—swap stories about tape-delayed broadcasts, tracking scores through services like Sports Phone, and how those moments shaped memories as sports fans. The conversation ties into current NBA playoff events (Knicks' opponent pending), setting up the stakes for New York fans waiting for the next chapter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Knicks Playoff Stakes and Upcoming Games

• [00:41–01:28] Alan Hahn gives an update on the Knicks’ playoff situation:
  • Knicks will face the Thunder or Spurs depending on the outcome of the Spurs-Thunder series.
  • "If you're a Knick fan, you're very interested in... the Spurs Thunder game." (Hahn, 00:41)
  • Next series starts Wednesday if Thunder win tonight, or Saturday (Game 7) if necessary.

2. Caller Danny: Nostalgia, Advice, and Tape Delay Memories

• [01:28–04:44] Danny from Long Island brings up:
  • Parenting trip advice for Rosenberg (Peter traveling to Italy with his young child): "Bring a little nighttime Tylenol, a little Tylenol cold medicine, maybe put her to sleep for six or seven hours." (Danny, 01:38)
  • Financial Story: Danny won $3,500 betting on a Super Bowl box right after his son was born (2004), invested it, and now it's $27,000—advises Rosenberg not to “piss it away.”
    • "I put it right into an S&P 500 account. Never touched it... Use it for college." (Danny, 02:08)
  • Presidential attendance at Knicks games: Discusses security nightmare, ponders if it’d make more sense for the president to attend games in OKC.
  • Sports Memories & Tape Delay: Recalls how certain games (’73 Mets, NBA Finals, hockey playoffs) weren't even broadcast live or were on tape delay, leading to spotty or delayed memories.
    • "Some of them were on tape delay… back then, when you were out of touch, you were out of touch." (Danny, 03:31)

3. Nostalgia for Sports Schedules and Tape Delay Era

• [07:12–08:57] The hosts riff on the idea of afternoon World Series games and the outrage it would cause today:
  • "Can you imagine the Mets or Yankees in a World Series today and... game three would be at like three o'clock in the afternoon?" (Hahn, 07:12)
  • The impracticality in the current media landscape, but how "much as we long for those days" it would be chaos today.
  • Tape delay as standard policy in the NBA until the “Bird/Magic” era.
  • "It wasn't until Bird Magic... changed everything for that league." (John, 08:13)
  • Knicks’ 1973 title-clinching game wasn’t broadcast live in New York; only on radio, TV replayed it late at night.
    • "That game was not live in New York... They showed it... late at night because it was in LA." (John, 08:29)

4. Sports Phone & Score-Hunting Stories

• [15:00–17:38] Renee in the Bronx calls in with a classic tape delay hustle:
  • Recounts the 1980 NBA Finals—when Magic Johnson led the Lakers to victory—being tape-delayed:
    • "The Finals is on tape delay. 11:30 at night on CBS... the game is over already." (Renee, 15:27)
  • He and friends pooled money to call Sports Phone for the score and then bet someone else who didn’t know the outcome:
    • "We got $100 on the Lakers... and the guy says, I'll take that bet. And we looked at each other like, yo, we got one here. The game's over already." (Renee, 16:16)
    • "You had to pay to find out the score. I mean, that guy was really colossally dumb..." (Hahn, 16:39)
  • Hosts reminisce about Sports Phone, a paid phone service providing live scores before widespread internet.
    • "Did you ever call it?" (Hahn, 17:43)
    • "You give the score and then at the end of it, you said, 'stay with us.' That's how... you always said 'stay.'" (Hahn, 17:51)
    • Jokes about bringing back old Sports Phone recordings as a weekly bit—"Sports Phone Thursdays." (Rosenberg/Hahn, 18:31)

5. The Miracle on Ice — Communal Tape Delay Experience

• [16:53–17:31] Alan Hahn recalls the 1980 Miracle on Ice Olympic hockey game:
  • Game aired on tape delay since Russia wouldn’t change the game time.
    • "That was a... because Russia refused to move the time of the game, we ended up seeing it, like after it was over. We didn't know. We just watched because—" (Hahn, 16:54)

6. Banter and Show Announcements

• [12:39–14:54] Rosenberg shares upcoming travel plans, explains he’ll miss some live shows due to WWE-related Italy trip, and jokes about connecting with the Pope.
  • "I'm gonna visit Pope Leo and I'm gonna say. You want me to put in a word with you?" (Rosenberg, 14:15)
  • Banter about whether the Vatican has good Wi-Fi for streaming Knicks games (Gotham app jokes).
    • "Don't you think they should have pristine Wi-Fi at the Vatican? Honestly, what's getting in the way there?" (John, 14:47)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Danny on investing sports winnings:
  • "Every time you look at that, you'll think of the Knicks. Otherwise you just piss it away and it's gone and never really has a memory for you." (01:54)
• On tape delay era:
  • "When you were out of touch, you were out of touch. And sometimes it was better off because you weren't distracted." (03:35)
• Alan on nostalgia for old-school World Series timing:
  • "Can you imagine the Mets or Yankees in a World Series today and... game three would be at like three o'clock in the afternoon?" (07:12)
• Renee's tape delay hustle:
  • "We got $100 on the Lakers... and the guy says, I'll take that bet. And we looked at each other like, yo, we got one here. The game's over already." (16:16)
• On Sports Phone:
  • "You give the score and then at the end of it, you said, 'stay with us.' That's how... you always said 'stay.'" (Hahn, 17:51)
• On Miracle on Ice tape delay:
  • "We ended up seeing it, like after it was over. We didn't know. We just watched..." (Hahn, 16:54)

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Important Timestamps

• [01:28–04:44]: Danny’s call (parenting/travel, sports betting & nostalgia, live broadcast memories)
• [07:12–08:57]: Afternoon World Series/national TV & tape delay
• [15:00–17:38]: Renee’s 1980 NBA Finals story and Sports Phone nostalgia
• [16:53–17:31]: Miracle on Ice and communal viewing memories
• [12:39–14:54]: Rosenberg’s travel and the Vatican streaming jokes

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Tone & Style

The episode is vibrant with warm, New York sports nostalgia, old-school fan camaraderie, and familiar banter. The hosts and callers speak conversationally, often with humor and self-deprecation, and dig deep into formative experiences that shaped their fandom.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode is a treat for sports fans who remember (or are curious about) the days before every game was instantly available at their fingertips. Through personal stories and lively group discussion, Don, Hahn & Rosenberg spotlight a culture where tape delay, score-chasing, and insider knowledge were the norm—and how those shared struggles knitted New York sports fans together. The stories—alongside present-day playoff hype and a dose of sports-betting advice—make for a warm, funny, and thoughtful tribute to the not-so-distant past.

Transcript

[Alan Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Caller Danny]

Good afternoon, boys. Kind of the calm before the storm here as we await the next opponent. And kind of nothing like watching a Met game after all the excitement we've had. Peter, great suit. Congratulations on the trip. I don't envy you with the young child, but I'm sure it'll all work out. Bring a little nighttime Tylenol, a little Tylenol call, medicine, maybe put her to sleep for six or seven hours. Never hurt. But good luck. It's not an easy thing. And while we're ON Subject to PfP, thank you for winning me some money on the Knicks.

[Rosenberg]

There you go.

[Caller Danny]

And I want to give you a little financial advice, if I could. In 19, in 2004, I won $3,500 on a Super bowl box, literally a month after my latest son was born. I immediately put it a separate account. Never touched it. $27,000 now.

[Caller Renee]

No way.

[Caller Danny]

I put it right into an S&P 500 account. That's never touched it. Kept it separately the whole time. So I Knew exactly what. It's awesome. Use it for college. Wow.

[Rosenberg]

That is.

[Caller Danny]

That's the way to do it. So every time you look at that, you'll think of the Knicks. Otherwise you just piss it away and it's gone and never really has a memory for you. Listen. What? One other thing. We're talking about the President coming to the Garden. I used to work at the Garden. I was involved in security. It's a disaster unless they sneak him in after everybody's already there. And you were right, Peter. You're also right about why would he want to appear before that crowd? Why not just go to Oklahoma City? Talk about appearing before the home crowd. If you don't, you know, just, you know, just go to Oklahoma City.

[Rosenberg]

But that's a little awkward too, because you're going there to root for the Knicks.

[Caller Danny]

Yeah. And you know what? And he is a Knicks fan. And not to get into politics, but the right answer to ask the right answer is I don't mind if the President goes because he was like 18 years old when they won. So that was right in his wheelhouse. Just like I'm talking about this. I can talk about the 86 Mets. I was 20. When something happens when you're a teenager, you tend to remember it for the rest of your life. That was really a big deal for any sports fan in New York City at that time. Now, the funny thing is I remember the 70s 3 Mets intimately. I remember lots of details about all those games in the World Series. The first game I went to was in 73. I don't remember any of that. And I looked it up on the television and it said not all the games were broadcast live in their entirety. And some of them were on tape delay. I remember even late into the 70s and 80s, like I think when the 76ers beat the Lakers on the road with Dr. J. I was a fan of that because I remember watching Julius in the Coliseum. That game was like at 11 o' clock at night, tape delayed. It's amazing. You know, you think that technology and talk about technology. We talked about the other day about the great comebacks. And then Don mentioned the Rangers coming back against the Devils. And I thought, why don't I remember that? And then in my middle age, my senior citizen brain pops. I was taking a train to work at 9:30 at night, which meant you were completely out of touch, of course. From Long island through the subway till I ran through the doors of the station house. What happened? You're not going to believe what happened. So like only a few years later, a guy was on the train with some kind of a device. It's amazing how quickly it turned. But back then you were out. When you were out of touch, you were out of touch. And sometimes it was better off because you weren't distracted. But that's why I had no recollection. I remember it happening. Of course I've seen the replay. But why didn't I see that? Why didn't have anything personal? Because I was out of touch from the communication we had of the day. But anyway, Peter, great trip. Hope everything works out.

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[Caller Danny]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

We get excited or we wish that we can go back to the old days when World Series games were played in the after you. Can you imagine the Mets are Yankees in a World Series today and like game three would be at like three o' clock in the afternoon. Like in what we do.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

I just imagine doing a show because like the Yankees aren't on our station. Like the Mets would be on our station, whatever. Like doing a show up against game three of the World Series. And the people that would complain, like,

[John]

I got to take off from work.

[Alan Hahn]

I got to get to Yankee Stadium for a three o' clock game.

[John]

Oh my God.

[Alan Hahn]

Like as much as we long for those days, can you just imagine if they did that?

[John]

No.

[Alan Hahn]

Can you imagine Knicks thunder on tape

[John]

delay again, we can't imagine it because the business has grown to a point where it doesn't make sense. But there was a time the NBA in the late 70s, remember, had a lot of issues.

[Alan Hahn]

No, they had a lot of issues.

[John]

Major drug issues and major issues with players. And the leagues merged. And it wasn't, you know, the early, the early years were not great when the leagues merged. It wasn't until Bird Magic. We all know that Bird Magic changed everything. David Stern and Bird Magic changed everything for that league. And then Michael came along and then

[Alan Hahn]

forget even in this.

[John]

But it's true. You know the Knicks 73 championship game, the one they won in LA, they won four straight games after losing game one, knocked off LA and Will Chamberlain retired after that. That game was not live in New York. Like they.

[Rosenberg]

It's insane.

[John]

It was on radio.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[John]

It was not live. They showed it. That was it late at night because it was in la.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. It's unbelievable how things have changed.

[John]

It's just different.

[Alan Hahn]

When the Rangers were in the Stanley cup final in 79, New Yorkers got it on MSG. The rest of the country Got it on paper.

[John]

How about that?

[Alan Hahn]

And it's not that long ago, right?

[John]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

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[John]

make the finals, then you both laughed.

[Rosenberg]

I don't want to say that, but I will say, I will say it was early in the Atlanta series and we were like, it doesn't feel like they're given finals. Let's cross that bridge when we come to it. Booked a trip, going on vacation and here we are. But I will be back with you guys for game three with bells on and I plan on reaching out to you next week because I got to pick the series with you guys and I got to make sure I get the bets in with Anthony.

[John]

You have to.

[Alan Hahn]

Now, if the Thunder win tonight and your flight isn't until.

[Rosenberg]

I can jump on tomorrow.

[Alan Hahn]

You can jump on tomorrow with a pick.

[Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Alan Hahn]

But if the spurs win, we're going to wait.

[Rosenberg]

There you go. So there you go.

[John]

I like this.

[Rosenberg]

I could jump on. I could jump on for a sec. Tomorrow, before I leave, go see the Pope. I'm gonna. I'm gonna visit Pope Leo and I'm gonna say. You want me to put in a word with you?

[John]

Yeah. I'm a Catholic. Yeah, he knows me.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, like, you know Alan Hahn, right?

[John]

He does.

[Rosenberg]

By the way, he does love basketball. He's from Chicago.

[John]

He's got. He's got the Gotham app. He watches Nick games.

[Alan Hahn]

That's right, the Gotham app. Yeah. There's a buffer for him, too, or. Because.

[Rosenberg]

No, it's a great app.

[John]

I think. I think they might have better WI Fi.

[Alan Hahn]

No, all apps have those moments. I just wonder because he.

[John]

Don't you think they should have pristine WI fi at the Vatican? Honestly, what's getting in the way there? That's the cleanest air you could breathe.

[Rosenberg]

You think so?

[John]

You would hope so.

[Rosenberg]

He's connected. So literally.

[Alan Hahn]

Renee in the Bronx. You're on ESPN New York. Hello, Renee.

[Caller Renee]

Hey, guys, quick story.

[Caller Danny]

I know, I know.

[Caller Renee]

You guys about to leave. So. 1980, the NBA Finals, as you guys remember. I don't know if Peter remembers this. I know. Don and. And Laguetta know this. 1980, the finals. Lakers versus 76 is Magic Johnson's rookie year. The Finals is on tape delay.

[John]

Yes.

[Caller Renee]

11:30 at night on CBS. Brett Musburger's got the call. Right. If I take the leg, the game is over already. So check this out. Right? You guys remember Sports Phone?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Caller Renee]

Yeah. So you had to put a dime in, Right? So me and my boys, listen, I'm 15 at the time. We gathered a hundred dollars together. It's a million dollars back in 1980. So check this out. So we put a dime in. We call Sports Phone. Sports Phone says the Lakers have won the championship and Magic Johnson scored 42 points for injured Kareem Abdul Jabbar. And the final was whatever. So we're like, oh, man, let's make a bet. So we seen a guy at a club and we said, hey, we got $100 on the Lakers. And he's. The game is just coming on. And the guy says, I think. I swear to God, he says, I'll take that bet. And we looked at each Other like,

[Caller Danny]

yo, we got one here.

[Caller Renee]

The game's over already. Listen, a hundred dollars back in 1980, guys, was a million dollars.

[Rosenberg]

I don't know if that's true, but it's a lot of money.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, for him it was. Because it's a lot of money. It's quite a bit of money, Renee, and I appreciate the ph. You had to go hunt for the school, like now. It would be all over the place. But he had to pay to find out the score. I mean, that guy was really colossally dumb to think that the game that was on 1130 was live.

[John]

But whatever. Yeah, you gotta take it.

[Alan Hahn]

You did take advantage of the dumb financially, if you could.

[John]

Why not?

[Alan Hahn]

And he did.

[John]

The fact that he paid up, that's pretty.

[Alan Hahn]

But the biggest example, speaking of 1980, of a game and tape delay that nobody knew the result outside of being there was the Russia US game, the Miracle on Ice. Amazing. That was a. Because Russia refused to move the time of the game, we ended up seeing it, like after it was over. We didn't know. We just watched because.

[Rosenberg]

How are you gonna. How are we gonna find out?

[John]

There was no way to find out

[Alan Hahn]

unless you were in Lake Placid or you called sportsphone, and that means you would have to pay for the privilege of finding out. But we. I turned on that game at 8 o' clock and it already been played three hours before and no idea what the score was. Can't do that now, Don, you should do.

[John]

You should create a social media account, call it SportsPhone. Okay? And all you're gonna do at night, give scores.

[Alan Hahn]

Give scores just like you would.

[John]

Do you know how many people would love to hear your voice just given the highlights, given the scores now, do you guys.

[Alan Hahn]

Did you ever call it?

[John]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

Did you know what we said at the end of the update?

[Don Hahn]

I can't remember.

[Alan Hahn]

You had to say it.

[Rosenberg]

Well, I have no idea.

[Alan Hahn]

You give the score and then at the end of it, you said, stay with us. That's how he's. You always said stay.

[John]

Hang up, though. I can't stay.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, let's say. How does it even work?

[Rosenberg]

It's not a radio station.

[Alan Hahn]

No, stay with us. Keep calling us. And it didn't matter if you hung up early. You got, you got.

[John]

Would it be great, though?

[Alan Hahn]

Charged no matter what?

[John]

Don just recorded these audio updates of just New York teams, you know.

[Rosenberg]

What do you charge, by the way?

[Alan Hahn]

I think it was at the time when I worked, there was like 25 cents. It costs like 25 cents to call but I got a. I gotta see if we can get. I have a tape recorder. I'm gonna see if maybe one day I would love it during the summer I'll bring in my old updates. Please. Please is how it sounds.

[John]

We need this.

[Rosenberg]

In fact, I'd make it a segment Sports phone Thursdays.

[Alan Hahn]

That could be our Monday thing. We're looking for something on Monday, right? No, we don't. We found something on Monday.

[Rosenberg]

Sports phone Sports phone Tuesday. Whatever it is, I want to hear Don's oh my God.

[Alan Hahn]

If you're on hold, hang in there because Alex travel with two base hits tonight is coming up next. Don Han and Rosenberg Tony Gwyn homer on ESPN New York.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.

[Rosenberg]

I don't want to know how the

[John]

sausage is made, man. I just want to know it's good.

[Don Hahn]

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