Rich Eisen (1:33)

I don't know.

Peter Rosenberg (1:33)

What's a mother trucker?

Don Hahn (1:35)

Wow. It hits from the other way.

Rosenberg (1:37)

You're right.

Don Hahn (1:38)

Right from the son perspective.

Rosenberg (1:39)

But yeah, you're not a mother's.

Peter Rosenberg (1:40)

What you're saying.

Don Hahn (1:41)

I'll make this quick because it's silly, but I didn't know. Or maybe I was starting to wonder if I was either using an aged or regional reference when I said Thanksgiving Eve. And Dominique Foxworth, who's. Who's on. You know, he's one of our NFL analysts.

Peter Rosenberg (1:58)

Sure.

Don Hahn (1:58)

He's on get up. This morning we were talking in the green room and this, this the tweet came up from Shefte and we were all just making that same reaction of, wow, they're taking over the whole week. And I said, Thanksgiving Eve, man, that's a big night. And he said, there's no such thing as Thanksgiving Eve. How is that a thing? I was like, no, it is a thing. He told me it's not.

Rosenberg (2:18)

What did he at all.

Don Hahn (2:20)

He'd never heard of it before, couldn't understand, like what it's about nobody ever could. It's only Christmas eve. There's new year's eve. There is no Thanksgiving.

Rosenberg (2:28)

Who was this? Who said this?

Don Hahn (2:28)

Dominique foxworth.

Rosenberg (2:30)

You said. Did you say to him you never went and hung out with high school friends back at home?

Don Hahn (2:36)

And he said, I played football. I never went home for Thanksgiving because we were playing.

Peter Rosenberg (2:40)

But he's being. He's being that guy.

Don Hahn (2:43)

No, he's not. He was very honest.

Peter Rosenberg (2:44)

He wasn't. I know. Sometimes you honestly are that guy.

Don Hahn (2:47)

He just was like, why are we making this a thing? Thanksgiving eve is not a thing.

Peter Rosenberg (2:51)

It's always, you know, the eve of your wedding, the eve of the big game. Eve suggests it's the day before. So what are you gonna call? So you gotta go all clutter? Oh, the day before Thanksgiving. Eve at Thanksgiving. Everybody knows who you're talking about.

Rosenberg (3:05)

Let me push this further. How old are Foxworth?

Don Hahn (3:08)

We're about the same age.

Rosenberg (3:09)

How old are his oldest kids?

Peter Rosenberg (3:11)

I don't.

Don Hahn (3:13)

I don't know him that well.

Rosenberg (3:14)

Do we know if he has at least teenage kids?

Don Hahn (3:16)

No, he has younger kids.

Rosenberg (3:17)

Not. Not teenage.

Don Hahn (3:19)

Because. Because he actually, I think is much younger than me now that I'm thinking about it.

Rich Eisen (3:22)

Yeah.

Rosenberg (3:23)

He may be in his late 40s.

Don Hahn (3:24)

Yeah, he might be in your range. Yeah.

Peter Rosenberg (3:25)

But.

Rosenberg (3:26)

But depending on the age of his kids. If it hasn't been real to you when you were a kid, it's gonna become real to you when your kids are all around in the house. I felt like it was such a

Don Hahn (3:37)

common reference to make. Make that I felt. You know how sometimes you're in these places and you say something and people look at you strange? You're like, wait, am I wrong? Like. Like, is this something that's from my hood that nobody else knows?

Rosenberg (3:47)

Also, it's a New York thing. In New York, there are club parties that night. It's a big party.

Peter Rosenberg (3:52)

Forget about the parties.

Don Hahn (3:53)

So we all agree there is such Thanksgiving is a thing, for sure.

Peter Rosenberg (3:57)

But even if it's not a thing, how else would you refer to the day before something?

Don Hahn (4:02)

He didn't grow up there.

Peter Rosenberg (4:03)

The day before something is always the eve. The eve of destruction. Everything the day before is suggested as eve. If I say the eve of thanksgiving, it's not to the level of new year's eve or Christmas eve. It's not necessarily a holiday. Even though younger kids go out because everybody's got off on Thanksgiving. It's just, how else would you refer to it? Isn't it awkward to say the day before Thanksgiving? Game. No. Eve of Thanksgiving Day. Everybody knows what you're talking about. I think he's being that guy.

Don Hahn (4:35)

I think it's saying it as Thanksgiving Eve.

Peter Rosenberg (4:38)

Right.

Don Hahn (4:38)

You say Christmas Eve or New Year's Eve. He's. I think his, his curiosity was. Nobody calls it that. And I'm like, I thought everybody did call it that. So I wanted to check. But because Peter said Thanksgiving Eve before he went to break, I'm like, all right, this is not gonna be a worthwhile conversation.

Rosenberg (4:54)

No, it's. I, I listen. I guess I could see a world.

Don Hahn (4:58)

Check yourself. And you wonder, like, am I?

Rosenberg (4:59)

No, I hear you.

Don Hahn (5:00)

And by the way, I'm not going

Rosenberg (5:02)

to go as hard as Don, I could see a world word. Which you never went home for it. Maybe you just, like, don't identify with what it is. Yeah, but, like, now I've truly appreciated, too, because, like, you know, my parents come to town, they get there Wednesday. It's nice because you're hanging out the day before the holiday. It's a fun.

Don Hahn (5:19)

That was a. It's a good vibe because you got home and you just shut it down.

Peter Rosenberg (5:23)

Let's just say for some reason, and

Don Hahn (5:25)

it was a good night out, that

Peter Rosenberg (5:26)

the NBA decided that we're going to have an outdoor game like they do with the Winter Classic. Yeah, right. Like what they did in college. The one year we're actually going to have an NBA game on a. What do you. What do you call those ships with the. The planes land on.

Don Hahn (5:44)

Oh, the aircraft. Aircraft.

Peter Rosenberg (5:45)

We're going to have an aircraft carrier game, and we're going to have it on the eve of the super bowl, the Saturday night before the Super Bowl. We're going to make a big deal out of it. Have a big NBA game on an aircraft carrier. And we're going to call it. It's going to be on the eve of the super bowl when everybody go, that's not a thing. Even the Super Bowl's not a single Eve. No, it's the day before the Super Bowl. You don't even have to say the Saturday before the super bowl or the day before the Super Bowl, Super Bowl Eve. You'll know exactly what we're talking about. And it's not a thing. But you understand, it's called language. Eve suggests the. What you're trying to get.

Rich Eisen (6:17)

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Rosenberg (6:18)

it as Christmas Eve, as the Eve. And so they're trying to comp it, and they don't think of it as the literal meaning of the word partner.

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Don Hahn (8:58)

You just put Something, though, in my brain that I think is also worth throwing out.

Peter Rosenberg (9:02)

Okay.

Don Hahn (9:03)

Because this is the NBA. No, no, I like this because the NBA did this. When the super bowl was in New York, they scheduled the game at the Garden with the heels. You know, when LeBron and all them with it.

Peter Rosenberg (9:13)

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Don Hahn (9:13)

They came in to play the Knicks. And that ticket was one of the hardest tickets to get because you knew the whole world was in this market for the Super Bowl.

Peter Rosenberg (9:21)

Well, that's why.

Don Hahn (9:22)

So the NBA. Now, is it weird if the NBA thought we're gonna piggyback every Super Bowl? And so wherever the super bowl is, even like, like wherever it is, there aren't any cities that it's in that the NBA doesn't have a team. Right. I mean, I said in Tampa. So fine, so we'll play. We'll play where the Lightning play. We'll put a court in there and it'll be Magic versus whomever. Because, you know, we'll just. We're gonna play a game the night before the super bowl because we know that building will be packed celebrities, everybody's

Peter Rosenberg (9:55)

going to be there the day before.

Don Hahn (9:56)

And you'll make sure a marquee team, at least one, if not two, are playing. Would. Would that be embarrassing? Like, I'll look at the NBA trying to come on the coattails, or would that be a great idea?

Peter Rosenberg (10:06)

That would be a great idea to

Don Hahn (10:08)

ride, like, on the coattails of a Super bowl that, you know, everybody's involved in. All the celebrities would be in town, everybody's there.

Caller/Listener (10:14)

And.

Don Hahn (10:14)

And maybe, just maybe some of the commercial stuff connects.

Peter Rosenberg (10:18)

And what you do.

Don Hahn (10:19)

Would that be weird?

Peter Rosenberg (10:19)

You make it like late afternoon so that everybody that goes to the game can still go to the parties. Because that'll be a problem. If you do it like 8 o' clock at night, the lot might not go because that's where the big super bowl parties are.

Rosenberg (10:31)

Make it like at 4.

Don Hahn (10:32)

Well, when it's on the west coast, that's easy to do.

Peter Rosenberg (10:34)

Oh, that's easy to do. But if it's on the east coast, you make sure that it.

Don Hahn (10:36)

Like if it's in Miami or if it's in Tampa, just do it at 4, 4:30.

Peter Rosenberg (10:39)

So when the game ends, you go right to the parties. Listen, the NHL pretty much did it when the super bowl was here with the outdoor games. The Yankee Stadium, they had a game on Wednesday, game on Saturday.

Don Hahn (10:48)

Yeah, it was all part of that very busy week because they figured everybody's

Peter Rosenberg (10:51)

here, it's something to do because Listen, there's. There's some cities where there's not that much going on.

Don Hahn (10:58)

Right.

Peter Rosenberg (10:59)

You know, and they have parties and stuff. But you could just incorporate that. Like every, like you said, anybody at the super bowl, all these former players would go to that game if you had. If it was a sexy game.

Don Hahn (11:09)

Well, you have to make it that. But you already know ahead of time, don't you? Like, we know where the super bowl is going to be. Yes.

Peter Rosenberg (11:15)

This year it's going to be in la.

Don Hahn (11:16)

Yeah. So you just make sure. So we're going to have a game that's going to have like superstars in it and everybody's going to want to

Peter Rosenberg (11:24)

go see it if.

Don Hahn (11:25)

And we're going to steal you from

Rosenberg (11:26)

the weekend if you feel like everybody's scared of them.

Peter Rosenberg (11:28)

You put Lakers, Celtics as the super bowl eve game on a Saturday in la. Super bowl eve.

Rosenberg (11:36)

That's not a thing. There's no Eve of Super Bowl.

Don Hahn (11:39)

What are you, super bowl eve moron again?

Rosenberg (11:42)

Sorry.

Peter Rosenberg (11:43)

That guy. Right? I mean, but that. You can figure it out. That's not a thing.

Don Hahn (11:46)

But, but seriously, high point football.

Peter Rosenberg (11:49)

Yeah. Because there's never enough football players.

Rosenberg (11:51)

He's never party.

Don Hahn (11:52)

Not that guy. No, no.

Peter Rosenberg (11:53)

But I'm just saying football player. They weren't knowing the party. Right.

Rosenberg (11:56)

They wouldn't understand such.

Peter Rosenberg (11:57)

I watched Varsity Blues. They're stealing cop cars.

Rosenberg (12:00)

Watched Varsity Blues.

Don Hahn (12:02)

That was a documentary. That wasn't based.

Peter Rosenberg (12:03)

That wasn't based on a true story.

Don Hahn (12:05)

That's right. But I, I just, when you said that, that's when I thought, why doesn't the NBA do this? Why not?

Peter Rosenberg (12:13)

I think, like, don't even apologize for it. Why would you have to apologize for it? It makes sense.

Don Hahn (12:17)

Yeah.

Peter Rosenberg (12:18)

You got all these celebrities, all these people in that given so many eyeballs, giving them something to do.

Don Hahn (12:22)

Yeah.

Peter Rosenberg (12:25)

Makes perfect sense to me. And if they, you know, people at the NBA, just give me credit.

Don Hahn (12:30)

Yeah, I will.

Peter Rosenberg (12:31)

That's all I am.

Don Hahn (12:31)

I'll make sure that you get a piece of it.

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Last Call Crew, 1-800-919-3776. We got up until the top of the hour to get this done, so let's go. Let's talk to Jonathan in la. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, Jonathan?

Caller/Listener (15:39)

Hi, guys.

Caller/Listener (15:42)

Regarding the wbc, I was actually there on Monday for Mexico's US Game. And let me tell you guys, I mean, being there, it's a totally different vibe. It's totally. I was there at the World Series game two ago and it's just something different. It's culture. It's something pretty cool going on right there. And I think it does mean something. It's not just an exhibition game. I think these countries want the bragging rights on what country has the best players out there. Especially that when you see players like Judge Harper, Soto, everyone going to their own and playing for their country. And I think the more years it is, the more it happens, the more it's going to grow on it. I want to see what you guys think.

Peter Rosenberg (16:17)

Well, you need. And listen, they lost to Japan last year, right? So now if they were to. And the situation, in case you missed it, if Mexico wins over Italy by four and they score four or less runs, United States isn't going. So they'll have a chip on their shoulder in three years, I would think, because now they've been beaten a couple of times, once in the championship game, and then they're not even going, moving on out of their pool. That would be, you know, a major embarrassment for them. You would think, hey, I went to the Arizona ones. I went to two games. The United States is playing Italy. I walked up day of the game, got tickets, first row behind home play for 20 bucks. There was nobody in the building. The next night, Mexico was playing. I forget who might have been. Puerto Rico, the doctor. I got tickets upstairs. Full house, 50,000 people.

Don Hahn (17:13)

That makes sense.

Peter Rosenberg (17:13)

It matters to them because you, you kind of, as an American, when you play Major League Baseball, you feel like you're representing your country because it's our game and we're playing, with the exception of Toronto, in our country. But you can understand those other countries feeling like, this is my chance to represent my flag, my country, and it becomes a big deal. So I understand that for it to catch on.

Don Hahn (17:37)

I just think it is what it is. I do think the Olympics could feel different.

Peter Rosenberg (17:42)

No, if baseball is in the Olympics,

Don Hahn (17:45)

I know they tried it once and I guess it didn't hit. But if the major league players play in the Olympics, if the League does what the NHL does and stops the season for two weeks and lets them just go and play. Like, it's not like you need a training camp. You're in the middle of your season. Just go, just go play. Right.

Peter Rosenberg (17:59)

Well, would it be two weeks or would it be three weeks? You know, the NHL was three weeks.

Don Hahn (18:04)

What would you need, what would you need all that time for?

Peter Rosenberg (18:07)

Well, because you're going to have to go out there. Like, where's the Summer Olympics this year? Is. Is in Los Angeles.

Rosenberg (18:13)

That's right, Los Angeles.

Peter Rosenberg (18:14)

But when, when it's in Australia?

Don Hahn (18:16)

Well, yes, of course.

Peter Rosenberg (18:17)

Now you're gonna need like two, three days off to go out there and then you need a couple more days to come back.

Rosenberg (18:21)

Fair enough.

Don Hahn (18:21)

Fair enough.

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Peter Rosenberg (18:22)

But listen, I. I think if they

Don Hahn (18:24)

were in the Olympic, it would bring a different energy. Right, right.

Peter Rosenberg (18:29)

But because it's the Olympics. Yes, that's why I think comparing the Olympics to the WBC is so unfair.

Don Hahn (18:34)

Would we have the guy who's the manager now or would we have somebody a little. With a little more something?

Peter Rosenberg (18:38)

Yeah, we wouldn't be messing around.

Don Hahn (18:39)

Right?

Peter Rosenberg (18:39)

We would not be messing because you'd be playing for a gold medal. Not something that was kind of created.

Don Hahn (18:44)

Right.

Peter Rosenberg (18:45)

To generate interest overseas.

Don Hahn (18:46)

Right. Let's go to piece of 10, Alex in Lynbrook.

Peter Rosenberg (18:50)

You're on ESPN New York.

Caller/Listener (18:51)

Oh, hi, Donnie. How you doing? I got one quick thing for each of you guys. I'm sure you heard Tommy DeCarlo passed away. The formerly singer of Boston.

Peter Rosenberg (18:58)

I did not know that.

Don Hahn (18:59)

Yeah.

Caller/Listener (19:00)

He was only 60 years old and died of brain cancer.

Rosenberg (19:03)

That's awful.

Caller/Listener (19:03)

I saw him with Boston. He was great. I saw him. He went on a tour with Jason Sheff, the lead singer of Chicago. It was called the lead Singer. The classic rock and roll. And it was, it was a great. It was at the Tilly Center. Mr. Hahn knows where.

Don Hahn (19:15)

Oh, yeah. Yes.

Caller/Listener (19:16)

And it was a great. It was a great show. And I can't believe he's gone already. He's 60. I'm going to be 61 next week. I'm like,

Peter Rosenberg (19:24)

well, if he was 60, he wasn't an original member of Boston then. Because Boston came out in 78.

Caller/Listener (19:29)

Yeah, he was with them since I think 2006.

Peter Rosenberg (19:32)

Okay.

Don Hahn (19:32)

Oh, okay.

Caller/Listener (19:34)

And Mr. Hahn, if Steve Kerr wants to be a 70 game season, why doesn't he just schedule him and steps it down and they schedule each player 12 games off during the season.

Peter Rosenberg (19:45)

Okay.

Caller/Listener (19:46)

You're not playing Monday. Okay. You're not Playing Thursday and you get it down to 70 games. Why is he. Why does he want the NBA to do his job for?

Don Hahn (19:53)

Well, that's the thing is they. They kind of do that already. But that's his way of not like is not taking accountability for doing that. Because he knows that when you say, oh, he's not playing tonight, load management, he knows it's dirty word. And then it's the players who then get blamed. Oh, you don't want to play, or the team won't play him. This is a way of taking away the accountability. We only play 70 games, so you know that. That's what that's about. He doesn't like the criticism that comes the way of the players in the league because of the reality of how players aren't playing full season.

Peter Rosenberg (20:23)

Just enough time to close it out with Richard in Manhattan. You're on here, big dude.

Don Hahn (20:27)

What's.

Caller/Listener (20:28)

Hi, Don. Peter Island. Hey, do you guys know who Lauren Chain Chapin was?

Peter Rosenberg (20:34)

Lauren Chapin.

Caller/Listener (20:36)

She was Kathy, the young girl on the youngest girl on Father Knows Best. She just passed away. 81 years old this year. It was tragic. After she left the show, she fell into a really, really bad place. But she was the first one. She started in 1954. Nine years old. She was one of three kids, Robert Young's kids, Father Knows Best. She was good, very good. Fellas, what a day. Geno Smith. Then we have Matt Snell dying. You know, Matt Snell was from Carl Place, Long island, and from Ohio State. You know who replaced him at Ohio State? From Brooklyn Jefferson High School, John Brockington. Then we have LIU and Hofstra, Long island schools with two New York coaches making the NCAA tournament the same day. Then you got Puerto Rico, baseball country, losing to Canada, A hockey country, usa, a baseball country losing to soccer country. You can't make this stuff up. And finally, Adebayo, 83 points. The guy's got to change his number to 83. I think that'd be the perfect thing.

Peter Rosenberg (21:40)

Alan.

Caller/Listener (21:41)

One thing. I think you can pitch something to espn. The data changed Northeast college basketball, as you know, from 1954 when La Salle won it, to 1984 when Georgetown won it, no Northeastern school won the NCAA tournament. Now, you had nice runs. Rutgers, Saint Bonaventure, they had nice run. Providence with Ernie D. And Marvin Barnes couldn't do it. But the data changed. It all was Black Sunday 47 years ago today. 47 years ago, St. John's and Penn went down to Greensboro and they beat Spinnocle and o'. Corren. That changed everything in Northeast basketball. The kids started coming here. Billy, Cunningham, o', Corran, all those kids, Spencer, they didn't go to the foreign, to the Midwest schools. They stayed in New York. And that day in 1970.

Don Hahn (22:34)

Yeah, but I was about to say to him, like, wait a minute. Villanova won national championships Northeast, but the Big east, the formation of the Big east and that turning into the big media thing that it was being in the Northeast that changed college basketball. And again, requiem for the Big east is definitely worth your time. The 30 for 30. It is phenomenal.

Peter Rosenberg (22:54)

All right, listen, we had a great show. We're back with you again tomorrow at 3 o'. Clock. Another full vehicle tomorrow. Recap. The Knicks and the Jazz get you set up for, you know, the weekend

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