Hour 4: Yankees Win

Summary

Podcast Summary: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Episode: Hour 4: Yankees Win (Released March 27, 2025)

In this episode of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg, hosts Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg delve into a variety of sports topics, blending insightful analysis with engaging banter. The primary focus revolves around the New York Yankees' performance, the New York Giants' quarterback dilemma, and a heated discussion on LeBron James' recent public confrontation with Stephen A. Smith. Additionally, listeners contribute to the conversation, offering their perspectives on ongoing sports narratives.

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1. Giants Quarterback Situation: Russell Wilson vs. Jameis Winston

The episode opens with a deep dive into the New York Giants' quarterback landscape. The hosts analyze the potential rivalry and performance expectations between Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston.

• Peter Rosenberg highlights Wilson’s leadership aspirations:
  “I expect to be a starter and come in here and be ready to rock and roll every day.” [01:16]

• Don La Greca expresses skepticism about Wilson's assuredness:
  “It just felt a little rehearsed, but they usually are. Right.” [02:05]

The discussion intensifies as they evaluate the likelihood of Wilson securing the starting position:

• Don asserts Wilson as the favorite but leaves room for Winston's competitiveness:
  “I just think there's a world where Winston can win this job. It's impossible.” [03:16]

• Peter counters by emphasizing Wilson's consistency and leadership:
  “I don't see. I think Wilson will be just fine. Enough.” [04:05]

The conversation underscores the complexity of the Giants' decision, weighing Wilson's experience against Winston's potential for growth and adaptation.

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2. Caller Artie on Yankees Game Crowd

Listener Artie joins the discussion to express his disappointment with the Yankees' game crowd, particularly criticizing the lack of enthusiasm during critical moments.

• Artie laments:
  “This crowd at the end game is pathetic. ... I've been to like, 40 opening days, and ... it's something like it used to be.” [07:36]

• Don responds with a defense of the on-air observation:
  “We don't have volume, but it's an opening day crowd. The weather's cold.” [08:13]

This exchange highlights varying perspectives on fan engagement and enthusiasm at Yankees games.

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3. LeBron James and Stephen A. Smith Dispute

A significant portion of the episode centers on the recent altercation between LeBron James and Stephen A. Smith. Hosts dissect the implications of LeBron’s confrontation and its portrayal in the media.

• Caller Mac offers insights:
  “LeBron probably just had an issue when basically, Stephen A. saying, you're hurting your son. I think that's hard to hear as a dad.” [09:27]

• Don critiques the public nature of the dispute:
  “LeBron could have called him aside ... but he did it the way he did it, like, are you really offended, or is this your opportunity to kind of flex and get some promotion for yourself.” [11:16]

• Peter reflects on the media’s role and societal perceptions:
  “What is it about LeBron James that people have a tendency to sort of heap the worst ...” [13:43]

• Don compares the situation to past sports figures, emphasizing the evolution of fan and media reactions:
  “Back in the day, ... Michael Jordan shutting you down ... You don't think that the conspiracy theories we hear now wouldn't be brought up about his dad?” [14:09]

The hosts debate whether LeBron’s actions were a strategic move for publicity or a genuine expression of frustration, considering the broader context of athlete-media relationships.

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4. Yankees' Performance and New Facial Hair Policy

Shifting focus back to baseball, the hosts discuss the Yankees' recent game where Devin Williams played a pivotal role in securing a win, amidst the backdrop of the team’s new facial hair policy.

• Don highlights Williams' performance:
  “Devin Williams ... threw like 37 pitches to get the save. He did give up a run ... but he struck out Christian Yelich to get the save.” [18:40]

• Peter humorously comments on the team's adherence to the facial hair policy:
  “The Yankees certainly took the new facial hair policy quite seriously. I mean, there are beards and mustaches everywhere.” [19:22]

• Don nostalgically references past Yankees with notable facial hair:
  “Mattingly had a mustache. Munson had a mustache. ... Look at Judge still clean shaven as can be.” [19:34]

The conversation touches upon the cultural and aesthetic shifts within the team, juxtaposing past and present player styles.

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5. Listener Andrew on WWE Debut and Maryland Basketball

The discussion takes an entertaining turn with Andrew contacting the show to speculate on LeBron James potentially debuting in WWE and the prospects of Maryland basketball.

• Andrew muses:
  “Do you think that LeBron is getting ready for retirement and think about a WWE debut?” [17:46]

• Don responds with humor and support:
  “It's not a work in the sense, hey, let's get together and let's fake this. ... they both do realize what they can get out of it.” [18:40]

Additionally, the hosts anticipate reviewing Maryland basketball should the team advance further:

• Peter mentions:
  “If Maryland pulls off a miracle and wins tonight, expect a dose of Maryland basketball tomorrow.” [20:25]

This segment showcases the hosts' ability to seamlessly transition between serious analysis and light-hearted speculation.

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6. Closing Remarks and Future Topics

As the episode wraps up, the hosts discuss upcoming sports events and tease future discussions, maintaining their trademark blend of information and camaraderie.

• Don and Peter conclude with plans to cover Maryland basketball's potential success and reflect on the day's highlights, including the Yankees' win and ongoing NFL narratives.

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Notable Quotes:

• Peter Rosenberg on leadership:
  “... it's a great winning culture and how do we continue to establish that and to really build on things that we do well...” [01:16]

• Don La Greca on Wilson and Winston's competition:
  “I just think there's a world where Winston can win this job. It's impossible.” [03:16]

• Don La Greca on LeBron vs. Stephen A.:
  “... why would I be playing the guy who's walking at the end of the year, let's have Winston play.” [04:43]

• Artie on Yankees' crowd:
  “This crowd at the end game is pathetic.” [07:36]

• Don La Greca on facial hair nostalgia:
  “Mattingly had a mustache. Munson had a mustache.” [19:34]

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This episode of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg offers a comprehensive exploration of current sports topics, enriched by listener interactions and the hosts' expert insights. Whether discussing the strategic decisions in football, the cultural shifts in baseball, or the personal challenges faced by star athletes, the trio delivers a balanced and engaging narrative for sports enthusiasts.

Transcript

[Don La Greca]

Don, she fell in love with the sex. Don Sauce was everywhere.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And Rosenberg, if you want to stay up, he's got the energy that matters.

[Don La Greca]

This isn't North Dakota. This is New York.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is Don Han and Rosenberg. John Frenchy Fuqua on 8 80, ESPN and the ESPN New York app. I will forever love John Frenchy Fuqua.

[Don La Greca]

It is pretty awesome. Pretty, pretty, pretty awesome.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why is my friend. My friend Allison came to stay with me and help with the baby. Yeah, her trains are getting delayed. What's up with trains getting delayed these days? That used to be the whole thing about the train.

[Don La Greca]

Well, I would think that was the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Beauty of the train.

[Don La Greca]

Didn't these things end with congestion pricing? This was all supposed to go away. All the money was going to go to make the trains better, faster.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, Amtrak.

[Don La Greca]

Oh, I have no idea.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But still, it doesn't make. Either way, I'm sorry, I just delayed trains. It's nonsense. It's yo, yo, Bumchuck. Speaking of which, the Giants quarterbacking situation, which is sort of like the trains. Here's. I didn't hear this yesterday. I want to hear it now. Russell Wilson, do you expect to be the starter?

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah, I expect to be a starter and come in here and be ready to rock and roll every day. I think, you know, to get a lead, I think this team's really looking for somebody to lead them in every way in terms of the process, you know, in the off season, during the season, habits and our thought process and how we create a, you know, a great winning culture and how do we continue to establish that and to really build on things that we do well and the things that we continue to need to do. And so I think the big part for me is, and just try to. This might be my 14th year to be able to lead amazing group of men that really have, you know, big hopes and goals and dreams and desires, and we all share the same goal. And so I think that's the best part about it is I get to be around a lot of, you know, extremely, extremely talented guys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's in nerd mode.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, he's in that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know.

[Don La Greca]

It just felt a little rehearsed, but they usually are. Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But how about.

[Don La Greca]

And he expects to start, which I would not be surprised if that's not the case.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, no, he's starting. You're out of Gordon. Here's Russell Wilson, big Russ, on the process of becoming a giant.

[Russell Wilson]

I talked to Jalen Hyatt today a little bit, too. I just think that he's a Guy that's been untapped in terms of what he knows he's capable of. And so it's just been really good process. And there are many others. Wanda Robinson, you know, he's like a running back. Every time he touches the ball, it's hard to tackle. His ability to make people miss, his ability to get away from guys and his capability. I've played with some guys like that before, and there's many others along the way. Obviously, the backs and what they're able to do, they're so young and talented, but. And then the guys up front. It always starts with the guys up front and what they're capable of. And seeing a guy like Andrew Thomas in the weight room, you know, doing squats and doing everything he was doing the other day and just being around him a little bit. Guys like GBR and just talking to different guys along the way, it's just been a really smooth process. That's going to give me a lot of confidence. Obviously, this fan base, talking to Mr. Morrow himself and them and just the whole staff, it's been really special.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm thrilled. I think it's going to be really good stuff.

[Don La Greca]

Really good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So you guys are gonna have a hell of a year.

[Don La Greca]

You don't think Winston can steal the job from him?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no. I think when you look at the amount of money being spent, which basically, I mean, Winston's getting paid like, women's tennis nil money. Russell Wilson's at least getting a real modest quarterback salary.

[Don La Greca]

But I don't think they're motivated by the money because it's really nothing, no matter how you look at it. Only Wilson's guaranteed money is 10.5. I would think Wilson be the favorite out of the gate, and it might end up being like a turtle race and somebody might win by default. But I still think there's a world where Winston can win this job. It's impossible.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, of course not. If Wilson falls off a cliff, for sure, Winston. Winston's a capable quarterback.

[Don La Greca]

I mean, wouldn't that work out? Like, if you're the Giants, Wouldn't you root for that? He's making $4 million a year. He's got another year after this under a contract, you know, so, you know, listen, if Wilson plays well, then he might bolt or you're going to have to now pay him more because he'll be a free agent at the end of the year. Now, I guess Winston could hold out and want more money. There's incentives that obviously can raise the money, but at the Same time, wouldn't I want the 31 year old that's got another year left on his contract to win the job from the 36 year old who's a free agent?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's a fair point by you. I just don't, I don't see. I think Wilson will be just fine. Enough.

[Don La Greca]

Okay, now that's fair.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he is more of a. It's interesting. I can't say he's more of a leader than Winston because we know for a fact that people in the past have not liked being led by Russell Wilson. And we know that even though we tend to think, you and I, that is Don and Peter believe that Jameis Winston can be toolish. From what we've heard, Don, the people who played for him in Cleveland love playing with him. He does. Players react to him. So you know, you know, this is the perfect setup for here's. Here's where Don's right. Here's where you're going to end up being right. And Millie Walke off the wall for.

[Don La Greca]

A dublay to lead off the ninth. They got actually second and third.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Second and third. Now nobody. I know what you're looking for.

[Don La Greca]

Three, though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So Yankees up three. That is so. So here's where you're going to be right. He won't win the job done in the preseason because in the preseason it'll be fine and Wilson will do enough and he's the better quarterback and he's a, I think a fringe hall of Famer and he's going to play.

[Don La Greca]

That's interesting. I mean, that's a whole nother debate.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a whole nother debate. But real quick, hear this out. But as the year goes on and Wilson reveals his Wilson ness and Jameis Winston is the lovable backup who his teammates love and Wilson is playing the average, maybe has a couple of subpar games. Then do you all of a sudden have Malik Neighbors and Jalen Wyatt Hyatt even saying, coach, I kind of like to see what Winston could do, especially.

[Don La Greca]

That I could see at that point. It's like, why would I be playing the guy who's walking at the end of the year, let's have Winston play. I just think there's a world where it can happen. But I would agree with that. I don't think in preseason the favorite.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Can you agree with that?

[Don La Greca]

Well, it depends on how he plays in the preseason. If he's God awful and Winston plays well, I think Winston can take the job from him. But I do think going in Wilson's Going to be the betting favorite. But I can see that either changing over time or almost right away. Listen, you only have three preseason games. They'll probably only play in two of them. But if Wilson has a poor camp, wasn't like he closed out last season all that great. And Dable's got a chance to work with him. And obviously you're working with Russell Wilson. What are you working with? He is what he is. He's 36 years old, established quarterback, borderline hall of Famer. There's nothing to fix with him. His issue is, is that he's getting older. Winston at 31, is still young enough that maybe Dable can fix him and reduce the number of interceptions. And instead of 30 and 30, you get 30 and 15, and then you start winning some games. I think there's more to work with with Winston, more to fix Wilson, I think is what he is. I don't think there's anything to fix. Is the. Is the end of a career. This could be it. I mean, this could be his last saloon here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Swan song. Let's go to Artie and Farallon. Hey, Artie.

[Don La Greca]

Hey, Artie.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sure.

[Artie]

Hey, what's up, guys?

[Peter Rosenberg]

There he is. Hey, Artie. How you doing, buddy?

[Artie]

Hey. Hey, congrats on the new show, Don. I miss you. I know you're talking football. I mean, this crowd at the end game is pathetic. I mean, every. There's been two strikes on so many batters. And even in the eighth, and I think ended, they're like. I don't know what they gave out there. Quaaludes to them or something. I'm very disappointed in this Yankee crowd, Don.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Would you be surprised if they gave out lewds?

[Don La Greca]

I would be very surprised if they gave out ludes. We're here on the air. Obviously we're watching the game. We don't have volume, but it's an opening day crowd. The weather's cold.

[Artie]

I've been to like, 40 opening days, and God bless my mother's 93. I stayed home and watched Washington with her today. And not. It's something like it used to be. I can't believe it.

[Don La Greca]

Bases loaded, nobody out.

[Artie]

By the way, Williams, having you bring your mom in.

[Don La Greca]

You want me to bring my mom in?

[Artie]

Wait for your mom for pastrami.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That sounds like a sexual offer.

[Don La Greca]

No, it's. Oh, my God, it's my mom.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's what I thought he said. Can you bring your. Bring your mom?

[Don La Greca]

No, because. No, because he's got a place to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Go in deli, owns a Deli right there.

[Don La Greca]

He was gonna be selling hot dogs at the Sasso. The town stopped.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't. You knew each other?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Don La Greca]

Well, yeah. Artie's. Well, I know already through the show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sorry, Artie.

[Don La Greca]

You know what? I'm gonna be. What are you doing tomorrow? I gotta take my mom to the doctor Tomorrow. I'm gonna be in fair lawn tomorrow. I'm taking her to the doctor tomorrow. We'll swing by, we'll get lunch.

[Artie]

I would love it if not, you know I love you, and I'm still in for the charity anytime.

[Don La Greca]

Awesome.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's beautiful. Thank you.

[Artie]

All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're sweet, man. Very sweet, man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Artie. I took it the wrong way. I thought you were inviting someone to pastrami. It sounded nuts, but I totally get it. Let's go to Mac and Randolph. Hey, Mac.

[Caller]

Hey, guys. Thanks for having me on. I just wanted to say, I think the LeBron thing. I don't think it's that big a deal in that, you know, Stephen A. I think he's tolling his right to criticize. Whatever. LeBron probably just had an issue when basically, Stephen A. Saying, you're hurting your son. I think that's hard to hear as a dad, and I think the brought an issue. So he saw Stephen A. Said something, and from LeBron's point of view, he's proud.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's.

[Caller]

I think. And so far, it seems like it's been a good decision to have him come to the NBA. LeBron didn't go to college. He probably thinks he can learn a lot more in the NBA than he did where he was. And it's been. Seems like it's been working out.

[Don La Greca]

I just don't know why it can't be up for debate. Now, if you're going to tell me he shouldn't have gone the father route, but. All right, let me. It's not apples to apples. Well, let me give you this comparison. Marco plays coach pitch baseball in our town. And he. And he plays really well. And if I use my influence to try to get him to move up to another level, and he wasn't ready, but I was being very persistent. If the coach came up to me, Peter, and said, listen, I got to tell you, as a dad, I don't think you're doing like a great. I think you should leave your son in coach pitch because you're really doing. Would I take offense to that, or would we be questioning my abilities as a father or Would I say, you know what? Maybe he's right. He's just not ready for it, and maybe I should back off a little bit. Like, I think LeBron is taking it too personal. I think LeBron realizes this is certainly a debatable subject, and he's trying to get people off his back and playing the father card, and I think it's unfair. And plus, he's been critical of media criticizing NBA players to begin with and all that. I don't. I don't. I don't like the way the whole thing's going now, but it's probably a bigger deal than we're making it out to be. But, you know, that's what we do on sports radio.

[Caller]

I just think. I just think, you know, also, it'd be weird, just as he probably. I think anybody would be annoyed at Stephen A. For saying it. And he probably just saw him in the crowd and was like, you know, had that emotion at the time.

[Don La Greca]

But here's. But here's the little. Here's the dirty little secret, guys. Honestly, LeBron could have called him. LeBron could have taken him aside in the bowels of the arena. Him doing it right there out in public is self promotion. Stephen A. Smith retorting on first take is self promotion. Believe me, everybody's getting something out of this. Okay, listen, if you're personally offended, Peter, take him aside. But to do it the way that he did it, like, are you really offended, or is this your opportunity to kind of flex and get some promotion for yourself and then say, Stephen, the same thing? It's like using time on his show. It's a lot of, look at me. And I know that that's what this business is and all that, but come on, Stephen A. Smith doesn't have to do it. He makes tons of money. He's been a God in this business and a respected guy in this business forever. LeBron James is in the conversation as one of the greatest basketball players ever. Really? Honestly, how much more light do you need shined on you?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Isn't there a world, although, where maybe it's a bit of a mix? Remember I said earlier, you were saying you doubt. It's the fact that LeBron is upset that Stephen doesn't think he's the goat, but can't it just be a perfect combination of all of it? And also, is there a world. Let me offer this defense of LeBron. Is there a world in which, like, it annoyed him, but he's like, I'm not calling that guy when I see him I'm gonna see him. And when he saw him, he saw him, and he went right up to him, just talked to him. I mean, on some level, you can respect that, that you see someone and you just immediately go, say it. Now you can say it didn't look mature, like they had an even exchange. It was almost like he barked at him and walked away. And in the power dynamics of 6, 9, LeBron, the star of the Lakers, doing it on the floor of a game, it was sort of an unfair power dynamic. You could argue that, but I don't know. I don't think it was necessarily as planned and as weak as, I don't know.

[Don La Greca]

If you're upset at Stephen A. Smith. There's plenty of ways to get in touch with him. I agree.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But, you know, people do do that. When I see you, I'm gonna see you people. That is a thing. So let's see if you keep that same energy when I see you.

[Don La Greca]

You might be right. But also, I could be right that the fact that it just conveniently was in front of, you know, cameras rolling in a full arena, people seeing everything that's going on. And like, oh, but also, don't you feel like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I think you would also agree. What is it about LeBron James that people have a tendency to sort of heap the worst. And I'm not talking about you at all, but don't you think people have a tendency to, like, heap the most negative possible thought process on him?

[Don La Greca]

I just think that's the way it is with All Stars. It happens to Tiger Woods. It just. It happens.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But you mean, like, when you say stars, you don't mean, like, stars. You mean the super duper stars.

[Don La Greca]

Super. Well, yeah, I think we. I guess that was. I have this conversation with Alan yesterday, is that if you go back to the day when Michael left to go play baseball, it was celebrated even though he wasn't that great of a baseball player. There were people that were critical of him, but for the most part, it was like, oh, this is cool. The challenge everybody kind of rallied around when his father was murdered. If that had happened today, you don't think the pitchforks would be out on Michael playing baseball. You don't think that the conspiracy theories we hear now wouldn't be brought up about his dad? Like, kind of interesting, his father gets murdered, all the gambling stuff. Hey, but we protected our stars back in the day. Now we go after them. The bigger you are, the harder you fall, right, Tiger? When he got into the car accident. Wouldn't it have been more sympathetic back in the day? Instead, it was. Maybe he was going too fast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, what drugs was he.

[Don La Greca]

What drugs was he on? You know? Come on, man. I'm not talking about what happened with his wife. That was weird.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That was a crazy story. I mean, now we know that story, but it was a crazy story at the time. But people, man, I just feel like, you know, I was watching a clip of a former disgraced radio personality, now irrelevant television host talking, and the qualities that these people put on LeBron. Don, you'd think he's done the worst stuff ever. Like, you try to tell me the legit, real worst thing LeBron James has ever done.

[Don La Greca]

What?

[Peter Rosenberg]

The decision.

[Don La Greca]

Well, that's not nothing. I mean, that's not bad. That's nothing. It's nothing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's irrelevant. It's a sports story. It's not a real. It's not a real thing. It's a nothing. It's whatever.

[Don La Greca]

But isn't that like, Aaron Rodgers is a little bit different, but, like, Aaron Rodgers was nozzly but didn't ever do anything wrong?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, he did. Guys, calm down. I'm not making my own political opinions, but for people who felt very strongly about a very important subject to people's health at that time, people felt he was gutless and misleading.

[Don La Greca]

No, that was. That was a mistake by him. But I don't know if it's bad guy level, it's nozzle, and it certainly didn't age. It probably aged better than it did at the time, but at the time, it seems so. He lied. He made a mistake.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But there are some people who would argue is lying making a mistake or is lying just lying?

[Don La Greca]

Well, lying is lying, but it's not a mistake. It can also be a mistake, but there's some. Really. He's not a bad guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. In his book, Don, he acknowledged that being a mistake.

[Don La Greca]

Yes, he did. It was probably the only time he ever acknowledged making a mistake, but he did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I agree, though. Aaron Rodgers, again, some of these people get cast as, like, just so evil. And I'm like, what are. Let's the LeBron hate, man? Like, okay, he's not your favorite. Okay, he's not Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan wasn't a bag.

[Don La Greca]

What did you call K earlier today?

[Peter Rosenberg]

A bag of fuzzy bunnies.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah. Michael Jordan wasn't that. Michael Jordan took exception to things. I just don't think he was outwardly as public about it as LeBron is, because I think the days are Different. But you don't think he would have a problem with what if Stephen A. Said, oh, yeah, but what Michael would have done is he just shut Stephen down. I don't think he would have gotten his face just like, I'm not talking about him. I'm done with him, by the way. And that would have been enough, I guess, because back in the day, Michael Jordan shutting you down, you cutting the COVID in the NBA, you're in a tough spot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. By the way. And if I didn't know any better, I feel like Michael Jordan, the kind of guy who would call you privately and have things to say to you that would scare you enough to get you to stop.

[Don La Greca]

Michael did things, but I don't think he did it for the publicity.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's go to Andrew and Hoboken.

[Don La Greca]

Hey, Andrew. Hey, guys. I just want to call and talk about the Stephen A. Smith, LeBron James stuff. And Peter, I'm very disappointed he didn't see this coming. Do you think that LeBron is getting ready for retirement and think about a WWE debut?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, just getting what you mean? You mean him and Stephen A. At Matt Mania?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, so you are. You're of the feeling that this is all like a silly work and you don't think that anyone really feels that strongly about it slightly. I hear you. Listen. I mean, listen, Michelle Beetle, my. My buddy Beetle said the same thing. She. I saw a clip of her moving around where she's like this. This all feels. WWE feels like a storyline. It feels like something the Paul brothers would do. This doesn't feel like. I don't personally feel that, though. Maybe a little extra sauce that.

[Don La Greca]

Thank you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not just a little extra sauce. Real.

[Don La Greca]

It's not a work in the sense, hey, let's get together and let's fake this. But I do think the sauce part of it is a work because I think both do realize what they can get out of it, especially Steven. As the Yankees win. Devin Williams, I think threw like 37 pitches to get the save. He did give up a run, left runners at second and third, but he struck out Christian Yelich to get the save. And The Yankees win 4, 2. So they're one and oh, to start.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And boy, let me tell you something right now. We haven't mentioned this all day. The Yankees certainly took the new facial hair policy quite seriously. I mean, there are beards and mustaches everywhere.

[Don La Greca]

But. But some reports tell you that, you know what, the players really enjoy this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, mustaches were always fine.

[Don La Greca]

Mustache. Yeah. Mattingly had a mustache. Munson had a mustache.

[Peter Rosenberg]

David Wells, of course, the famous Wells mustache like they dream about. But look at Judge still clean shaven as can be. Look at Boonie shaving as can be. If the guy who essentially started the change of the beard policy blew the first game of the season because that was Devin Williams, he was the first one out of the game that they said he asked Cashman or his agent.

[Don La Greca]

Like, why are we doing this? Still pretty close, 37 pitches. So I guess good luck. Kim closing anytime soon.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a rough one. But guess what you get out of it. Yeah, exactly. Right.

[Don La Greca]

Because they got the day off tomorrow. Right. So everything's good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That old day after the first day.

[Don La Greca]

Day off you're talking about, which I don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not a fan of it either. Like you're starting the year. Let's start the year.

[Don La Greca]

Let's go on. Let's get. Yeah. What are you doing?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Let's be. Let's be there. Are we now? I'll tell you who doesn't have a day off tomorrow. Us. That's right. Alan Hahn back with us. Where will he be tomorrow? Millie Walk a. Oh, Millie Algonquin for the Goodland. So we'll have Alan with us tomorrow. I will, hopefully. I want to say this right now. If Maryland pulls off a miracle and wins tonight, expect a dose of Maryland basketball tomorrow. And I think that's fair.

[Don La Greca]

Don, it was not the Elite 8.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's Elite 8. That's a real conversation. Now we got to start talking and now you got to start talking about the kind of year I'm having. If that happens. If Maryland makes the Elite Eight the same year the commanders made the NFC championship. There's some.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah. So this would be like Maryland Final Four then. That's. That's the parallel.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What do you even say to that? Guys, it's been a pleasure. We'll catch you tomorrow at 3pm on 880 New York in the thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know.

[Don La Greca]

It's good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hear more of Don Allen and Peter.

[Don La Greca]

Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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