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* 00:00 - Introduction

* 00:36 - Introduction

* 01:29 - Model Welfare: The Story So Far

* 04:45 - Their Main Model Welfare Findings

* 07:52 - Automated Welfare Interviews

* 12:06 - And That’s Terrible

* 13:54 - In Depth Interviews

* 14:29 - Claude Consultation

* 16:16 - Task Preferences

* 18:44 - They Were Warned About The Competitive Use Safeguards

* 19:19 - Chain Of Thought Monitoring

* 19:56 - Others Observations About Related Topics

* 25:19 - Classifiers Have Their Advantages

* 31:33 - Once And Future

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