C (1:51)

I don't know, honestly.

B (1:53)

I know your well, so I'm like, he's not too old. He's not slow. There's no reason he shouldn't be on.

A (2:01)

The ground right now.

C (2:02)

There must have been. There must have been something whether.

B (2:04)

Has to be.

C (2:05)

Yeah, there has to be something. If I could see the video, I could like pinpoint it. Cuz it. It a lot of times, like if. A lot of times these guys just agree to get smacked or something. Yeah, this year. And then if they don't, sometimes it does happen or whatever. But like as far as, like, Like, I don't know, it's like what I'm comfortable with. Like, if there's a cop right there, obviously I can't hit him or something like that, or. I don't know, I just have to see the video. Like, maybe the. Maybe the police were mad at me or something like that. I don't know what it was, but.

B (2:39)

It felt like something happened because he should be smacking the at.

A (2:43)

Do they all become a blur at this point or.

C (2:45)

Yeah, yeah. Like, if it wasn't. If it wasn't for my team and like my girl, like, honestly, like, I go on a catch trip, I catch like five, six, seven guys. And then like, I. Honestly, unless the police are calling me back about them, like, I kind of forget about them, you know, And I'll ask them, like, what was that guy's name? And everybody else is good at remembering it. I'm terrible with the names and faces. I was just thinking about it the other day, like, I've done this over like 750 times where I'm just like gone to meet a stranger, not knowing what's about to happen. And I kind of like feel like I take that for granted over the years of like, that's kind of like crazy of just. I don't even like, you know what's gonna. I got 750 enemies. I wish I had that many friends, you know what I mean? Like, I should. I should just be going to meet friends every night instead of like psychos.

B (3:33)

God's work here, sir.

C (3:34)

No, for sure. Cleaning up for sure. Somebody's got to do it.

B (3:38)

No, no, somebody's got to do it. And if they do it, where they're going to go, they're going to get murdered. It's called prison.

C (3:43)

Those falling from the sky, they are falling. Oh, thank you, sir.

B (3:48)

Yes, sir. Okay, it's real quick, before I forget. Second question. Do you have a lighter?

C (3:53)

I have a lighter, actually. I have a lighter, actually.

B (3:57)

Here.

C (3:58)

I actually have a lighter.

B (4:00)

Thank you very much. You have an ashtray right there too.

C (4:02)

Cool. I should have brought mine. Thank you for the box, by the way, man.

B (4:05)

Thank you. Appreciate you.

C (4:06)

Appreciate that, man. Much love.

B (4:08)

Do you watch Slap Fest? Do you watch Slap Contest? Do you watch Power Slap? He's just like, you know, training and.

C (4:19)

Just like checking out techniques and stuff. No, I, I don't actually like mobility. Everybody will be like, man, you got to get into slap. Like, bro, bro, your slaps are good. You gotta get in the slap league. And I'm like, If you play defense.

B (4:31)

Yeah.

C (4:34)

You're playing defense. Yeah. I don't. I don't want to get smacked. No, because, like, it's not even like, a test of toughness. Like, if you get knocked out, it's just like human anatomy.

B (4:43)

You know what I mean? All this is. He's got a chin. No, his brain doesn't turn off.

C (4:47)

That's the only thing, right?

B (4:49)

It will turn off one day, I promise. Yeah, everyone gets slept. I. I want. It's disgusting. See how much I, I.

C (4:55)

You love it.

B (4:56)

No, I just like it a lot. And you're.

C (5:00)

You're who Dana talks about. Because, like, Dana will go on there and be like, these numbers do better than the MLS and, like, all soccer combined. I'll be like, not true. I'll be like, I don't know, dude.

B (5:09)

There's 400,000 views in some of these videos.

C (5:12)

Got millions.

B (5:13)

Get out of here. He's really trying to hype that.

C (5:16)

He really hypes it up. And I love Uncle Dana. And then he'll be like, I'll tell you something about power slap.

B (5:22)

And I'll be like, oh, man, there's no skill. Yeah, I mean, there is. You got to make sure not to go high. Don't. What is it?

C (5:30)

Don't flinch.

B (5:31)

Don't flinch. Two for flinching is the funniest. The funniest penalty in sports. If you splinch, it's either take a point or get two for flinching and they smack you again. Is the funniest I've ever heard.

C (5:43)

It's crazy.

B (5:44)

I hate that. I, like, I watched one episode, but this is barbaric. Watched another one with this is disgusting. And an hour later went, man, I think I'm stuck on this. And I watch every.

C (5:55)

You watch, like, do you watch, like, the Fight House where they're, like, in the house?

B (5:58)

No, I can't do that. I have. I have responsibilities. I can only give me the three minutes.

C (6:02)

Just, like, arguing. Like, I don't want to watch regular.

B (6:06)

Guys do Real World. Like, at the end of this, we're going to smack the out of each other. Now, if the Bachelor let you fucking.

C (6:13)

Fight each dude at the end, bro.

B (6:15)

I would watch this out of the Bachelor.

C (6:17)

I think that'll probably come in, like, 2045. You just gotta lose a little bit.

B (6:21)

More brain cells, a little more morals.

C (6:23)

Yeah, she's got to get crazier and crazier.

B (6:25)

Seen Idiocracy, the movie Idiocracy?

C (6:27)

Yeah, a long time ago.

B (6:28)

It's.

C (6:29)

It's.

B (6:29)

We're Close. Yeah, we're close.

C (6:31)

We're close.

B (6:31)

I mean, we, we. I don't know. Remember cops and how it took over the world? Cops from on location.

C (6:40)

What's up with that?

B (6:41)

Just give me just chess cam. Give me just body cam cops. And I will pay a subscription to watch that because don't they do the live.

C (6:50)

Live pd?

B (6:51)

Yeah, that's like, Like I want that. Like with John. Well, I'd explain to my brother who John Walsh is. Remember John Walsh? Yeah.

C (6:58)

America.

B (6:58)

America's Most Wanted.

C (6:59)

Man, that scare me.

B (7:01)

Me too.

C (7:02)

I'd be watching America's Most Wanted by myself in my room and be like, oh, grandma State Grandma, did you lock the door?

B (7:08)

Of course.

C (7:09)

Knees out. Wanted.

B (7:10)

And we watch every Saturday and yep. Please report. This is what he might look like with a beard.

C (7:18)

Yo, that was him with a Mario hat on.

B (7:25)

Dude. Now it'd be like he loves Call.

C (7:27)

Of Duty and his gamer tag him and all this.

A (7:31)

This is what he looks like.

C (7:32)

He loves strawberry banana vapes. You could.

B (7:39)

Dude, that show would crush today.

C (7:42)

I don't know why they went away from it.

B (7:44)

I don't know. They're catching criminals in America.

C (7:47)

I mean, just catching the predators. Like, I don't know, like the numbers are there.

B (7:52)

Like one day you're John Walsh. Coming up this week, I smacked the dog out of a guy in North Carolina. Here's what happened. Jay in the news or in the field with Jay going to kick this guy in the dick. Still to my day, the most favorite thing is the alley oop. I still can't get enough of it. I have it on repeat. I try to make a gift, but.

C (8:12)

They'Re legends for that, man.

B (8:14)

Come on, man. That's just one of the funniest things I ever seen in my life. I. I show everybody in my family. Everybody. No, cuz it's a test. But you don't like it.

C (8:24)

Why not? I always feel awkward. People be like, what do you do? I'll be like. I'll be like, Phil. Like, I, I, I make, I make videos that. And then as soon as everybody.

B (8:35)

Combat sport videos.

C (8:36)

Combat sport videos.

B (8:38)

There you go. Do combat sports. Like, I'm really good as you can see my face videos.

C (8:42)

Yeah.

B (8:43)

You ever seen Power Slap? A version of that? I have a sister league of Power Slap. There you go. Sister league. Yeah, there you go. Dude.

A (8:53)

Pedal slap.

B (8:54)

Pedal slap. That sounds like some Pinocchio's cousin of some kind. Pedal slap. That's not some Italian knockoff of Pinocchio, Marty.

C (9:04)

All right.

B (9:05)

What the happened? Power Slap. It's terrible. I watch it. I hate it.

A (9:09)

Can you tell when you really connect, right? Like all that. One shot his lights off.

B (9:13)

Yeah, yeah.

C (9:14)

Like bro, I've broken my thumb. Like my thumb is like just crooked because I probably broke my thumb like three times. I've sprained my wrist I don't know how many times. And then when it's cold outside, I swear that hurts me more than that. Yeah. Oh, you got. But they'll. They'll put their, they put their head into it. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's why, that's where the two from flinching comes in. Cuz it's dangerous for me. Yeah.

B (9:38)

Two break my hand.

C (9:39)

Exactly. Now I'm going to get hurt and that's not what supposed to happen.

B (9:42)

I'm going to get hurt. Could you imagine? The cops come, he hurt me. I tried to knock him out. He moved.

C (9:47)

We had a agreement, he consented to this, sir.

B (9:51)

Also, you got a pinky in the brain tattoo on your arm, kid.

C (9:56)

Wow. And the nurse. Hello nurse.

B (9:58)

Oh, wow. What other you got? What's that potion?

C (10:02)

Hate hater potion?

B (10:06)

Inspector Gadget. Is that the, Is that the, the lamp from, from, from Aladdin.

C (10:11)

Yeah. And then you know, it comes up with the dragon and then I got Spider man over there.

B (10:17)

You do have Spider Man?

C (10:18)

Yeah, just some kid, man.

B (10:19)

That's awesome. What else you got? You got cool.

C (10:21)

That's.

B (10:22)

This really would look like me if I had tattoos and I wasn't scared.

C (10:25)

I got Kenny.

B (10:26)

You have Kenny dead? Yeah, dead Kenny. You're right.

A (10:29)

The, the creeps are all getting smacked by all these childhood characters.

C (10:35)

It's like kind of embarrassing. I got a bunch of little kids stuff but like you do too, man. So it's like. Oh yeah, you know, it's okay to feel like that sometimes I get only.

B (10:44)

Like little kids like toys though, dog.

A (10:47)

Nostalgia.

B (10:48)

Don't get caught by this, man. That's not what we're saying. Little kid shit's fine. We're talking about fucking toys and tattoos. There's a clip of you like little kid shits. Oh no, dude, clarify that right now that it's funny.

C (11:03)

My boy over there, I caught this predator in his hometown and they're like, it's. What is it? Rockford, Illinois. And I caught a predator there and I put the thumbnail for some reason Instagram up the thumbnail and it was like his brother is like standing there or whatever. It's like, man, it comes me to 13 and I changed the thumbnail on Instagram. But it just would not redo. And the had, like, 200, 000 views, like, early, because it was a good one. And he's like, bro, can you delete it? And I'm like, yeah, yeah.

A (11:38)

He's like.

C (11:39)

He's like, bro. People are literally texting me, like, saying, like, bro, what happened? Like. Like, I could have changed the thumbnail. Just wouldn't change. I kept trying to change it. It was up. Yeah. So you got caught in, like, got caught.

B (11:53)

Some of my brother, but we're picking.

C (11:55)

He was looking, like, mischievous, too, like, because he was, like, mad a little bit at the Predator, but he's over there looking like. Like brooding and, you know, so it just didn't look good for him.

B (12:05)

I wonder how many. How many times you caught somebody with somebody. They're like, what are we doing here?

C (12:09)

One time I.

B (12:10)

Would you bring me to.

C (12:11)

I reposted Casey Rocket.

B (12:13)

Comedian. Comedian, yeah.

A (12:14)

He's.

C (12:15)

He's hilarious. One of my favorite comedians. And it was like.

B (12:18)

I don't know.

C (12:18)

He just did, like, some bit. All I did was repost it. And then everybody's like, bro, thanks for telling me he's a pedophile. And I'm like, wait, wait, bro, this is just my Instagram dog. Yeah. And then he wrote me. He wrote me, was like. He's like, wow. He's like, I forget it was something like. I'm like, bro, my. He's like, what's going on? Like, bro, my bad. He's like, it's all good.

B (12:48)

Pedophiles.

C (12:51)

I have one nuclear weapon. I got one nuclear weapon. It's like, I could. I got one because I've built up a good trust. I've never lied before. So it's like, you. Me. You make me mad. Like, hey, this guy's a pedophile. You know what I mean? You're gonna argue with me? No, no. I mean, so I got one nuclear weapon, probably per life. Exactly. Because they'll eventually maybe find out, but by then, you'll have enough people to just believe it anyways. So, yeah, I got. I got one nuclear weapon per life, man. I never want to use it, but.

B (13:27)

People are calling people pedophile lately, and they just remain president, bro. So I don't think you're in, like, you're in that bad of territory, bro. I don't know whether a guy that did it, but if you call me pedophile, I'm to go fight you right now, bro. Both can't call me that.

C (13:41)

I. Republicans call the Democrats pedophiles. Democrats are calling Republicans pedophiles.

B (13:45)

Pedophiles. Yeah. But you're. You're a meaner one than me.

A (13:49)

You.

C (13:50)

You. You like them younger than I do.

B (13:52)

Like, yeah, eight. And blow. Gross, dog. Like, I couldn't imagine the wait. You've heard a lot of this. The rationality of these creeps. It's. It's crazy to me because I get a lot of people talking to me.

C (14:06)

Yeah.

B (14:06)

When I post you guys, I got a lot of people, and it's always three sentences and they go, okay, I see what you're saying. Or they're just straight. Nope. Don't believe it. Don't trust it. Piece of. I. I posted when Jay was in jail and you guys post like, his voice. Yeah. I went, oh, free J. And I got people in there telling me that I'm pro ice. Because I said free J. Because Jay is a maga. A maga enthusiast and a pedophile. People are dumb.

C (14:39)

Wow.

B (14:39)

I think people are stupid.

C (14:41)

Yeah.

B (14:41)

Because they think Casey Rock is pedophile. Because you post him is the craziest in the world. People really just don't doing a bit, and they just don't even think Jay's the one catching him.

A (14:50)

That's.

B (14:51)

And then now he's a pedophile because I said, and now I'm a maggot. It makes no sense. But the Internet, dude. Doesn't matter because it doesn't make any sense.

C (14:59)

Bro. I. I posted the other day something about how, like, you know, like, morals don't always align with, like, laws and stuff.

B (15:09)

Yes.

C (15:09)

Pertaining to, like, pedophiles not getting, like, sentenced a long time in jail. And, bro, I had people being like, so you pro immigration. You. They're ruining our country. And then I had people being like, oh, you're just mad because that got shot in the head. I'm like, bro, relax. Like, I'm not even talking about this. Like, people are just so, like, they get one word.

B (15:32)

They're.

C (15:32)

It's crazy. I said the Holocaust was in there, and I had a bunch of people being like, propound.

B (15:37)

Stop.

C (15:38)

Because I was like. I said it was something like, you know, what was happening back then wasn't like, it was. It wasn't legal or something.

B (15:47)

Something.

C (15:47)

It was just the legal morality issue. And just like you, they just used the word Holocaust. Not in a. Holocaust was terrible. Or even. The Holocaust was great. It was just the word Holocaust. And like, just both sides are like, wasn't even real. Or do you know what's happening? Like, how many Jews died It's like, bro, like, I can't even, like, use this in passing. Like, you can't say Tuesday without Wednesday getting mad at you.

B (16:10)

That's a great way to put that. You can't say Tuesday, Wednesday getting mad at you. What I think it is, I think these are bots like we talked about. I think they're bots. I don't think people are that dumb. I don't think they're that fast to argue that. I don't think 50 of these are real people. I think they make of counts and there's a keyword said. They go and argue it. It's an AI. I feel like it's an AI and Elon Musk is doing it so he can go, look how much impressions I got since I've taken over. But it's really 2000 bots going at it all day, every day, all day, every day, in different niches. About me. I could post anything and I'll get people talk about politics in my comments. Like, I didn't even mention politics. What is happening?

C (16:53)

Crazy.

B (16:54)

I think.

C (16:54)

No, that's why it's so crazy. It's like, what's happening? Like, you. You can't say anything without somebody being like, wait, what the. I think that's like, what's going on. Yeah, that's why, man. I don't know. I don't know. It stresses me the out, to be honest.

B (17:08)

I think this year my goal is every time someone's rude or anything is. But I love you.

A (17:13)

Yeah.

B (17:13)

In the comment. Love you so much, dude.

C (17:15)

Classic killing with kindness.

B (17:16)

Love you, man. No, because they're just gonna lose their mind and, and not. What do you say to that? You can't just come back with another republic. You can't say anything else after, like, well, you're a. Like, all right, bro, I love you, too. Love you too, man. Like, I'll write you back soon. I'll DM you back soon. Love you. That's what I'm start doing. I'll reply to your DM soon. Love you. Every time someone's mean to me, I like it. I like it too, man. Or we pull Jay and Silent Bob and we fly to every one of their home. Oh, you haven't seen it.

C (17:44)

Is that what they did?

B (17:45)

Remember the end of James Silent Bob and they got all their money from Blunt man and Chronic?

C (17:48)

Yeah.

B (17:48)

They spent it going, did you call Jane Silent Bob Clown shoes? And they beat the out of everyone. I forgot about. Remember? We got to get that check so we can fly around Beat the. Out of all these guys.

C (18:02)

That's the dream, man. That's the dream, dude. If I could. If I could beat the. Out of everybody that talks to me on Instagram, bro.

B (18:12)

Like, that's the dream. I love it, dude.

C (18:15)

I would. I would sign up. That's amazing.

B (18:19)

I don't know, maybe like a minute and a half and just talking would be. Would be funnier to me.

C (18:24)

Yeah, I recorded this one guy last night. He was. He was being really mean, and I have. I have my boys with him, like, washing. He's like saying, your dead friend, your kids, all this stuff. And I call him and I'm like, facetime him.

B (18:37)

Say it again. So someone DM'd you, and you saw it went, I'm gonna Instagram call you. That's what happened, right? Yeah, because.

C (18:43)

Because I just like. I want to see. Just like you're saying they're bots. It's like, what kind of guy is this? What's this?

B (18:49)

Who's these people look like?

C (18:51)

Yeah. Yeah. And he. He answered the phone and like crazy to answer, and. Because, well, he didn't answer. I. I kept calling him and he was like, put it in writing. He kept saying that, Which I thought was funny. He kept saying.

B (19:05)

And then I called him back and.

C (19:06)

He said in writing. And then he. I called him, just regular. And then he answered and he was like, what's up? See? And I'm like, what you gotta like. I was like, what's wrong with you, man? Why aren't you. Why aren't you trying to pick up the phone? He's like, what? I'll talk on the phone. So then we FaceTimed him and we're talking and I'm like, man, I thought your house was gonna be dirty. Like, what you hiding? Cuz usually if they don't FaceTime back, they're like, hiding something. I'm like, I thought your house was gonna be dirty. He's like, nope, you thought you was wrong. I'm here with my girl. And it's like, girls in like a bra. Panties. And she. Yeah, you, Jenny. I was just trying to help. And I'm like, what's going on? And he's like, yeah, I'll beat your ass type of. And then he like, walks into the sunlight or like a light in his room. And he has like, no top teeth and he's like my age. All bottom teeth. Yeah. All black nubs. And it was like watching like, like, like Pirates of the Caribbean. You know when they, like, finally like, walk in the moonlight. And then they turn.

B (20:11)

I got you. I know exactly what you mean.

C (20:13)

And it was just like, oh, that's what it is. I'm like. I'm like, bro, I knew you didn't want to FaceTime for a reason. He's like, I'm a country boy from West Virginia. You think I give a. And then, like I said, and I was. I could. Like, that can cause, like, heart problems, you know? Those teeth are gonna get to you, man. But anyways, yeah. And then I'm like. He's like, I'll beat your ass. And I'm like, I might need three people with me. He's like, I'll beat him up. I'm like, five. I'm gonna have to bring five guys with me. I'm like, I'm bringing seven. He's like, I got them all. And I'm like, man, I'm like, you got a warrior spirit, brother. And he's like, I do. He was like, all pause. It was like, I actually do have a warrior spirit.

B (21:03)

That was his sister. He didn't have a girlfriend at all. I do have a war spirit.

C (21:08)

I do have a warrior spirit.

B (21:10)

So he likes you at the end.

C (21:11)

And then, yeah, he. At the end, he's like, you know, I watch all your videos. I didn't mean no harm by it. I just, you know, I'm. I just want to see you do better. And I'm really one of your biggest fans. I don't miss a video. I'm like, hey, thanks, man.

B (21:24)

Goes from beating your ass, dead friend and your wife. So I'm a big fan, bro.

C (21:29)

Isn't that happens all the time? Like, it's like a thing that I do for, like, to help a pastime.

B (21:36)

Yeah, to help them. It's like, yo, let me. Let me show you that you're wrong.

C (21:38)

I think it's like a real thing. I come from a very small town. I come from a town. 16, 000 people. So I. There's like, a celebrity culture out that exists in the world that I don't think, like, you guys feel as much because you're. You're in, like, a city environment. But there's, like this thing of, like, where you see people on TV or on your phone. It's like they live in, like, a. They basically live like, in a Jetsons world. You know what I mean? It's like, we don't live like you. You, like, you'll be on a highway. It's like, you don't think Will Smith has ever drawn that drove down this highway, but he has. You know what I mean? Like the 405. Like Will Smith's been on the 405. And you're an average person driving on it. So it's like California has that, but like, when you're in a small town, it's like, really, these people are living like the jets and, and like, they're like unreachable to you. You know what I mean? So I think people will really write me and, and to see, like. And I'm just a regular guy. And I don't think people know that these celebrities. And like, you're just a regular guy. I'm a regular guy. Marty's a regular guy. There's just stoop dogs. A regular guy. Like, yes, all you, all this is, is just a camera on other regular guys. You know what I mean? Nobody's got no secret juice or anything like that. And I think these people, I think there's like a, like, like, I don't even know, like an Illuminati thing of where it just like separates you from society. And I think, like, I think it's really fun to like, interact with that. Like, people are just writing me, like saying all this and it's like, oh, wait, you answered. Like, actually, I like you. And it's. And it's like, damn. Like, this is so weird, you know?

B (23:15)

Bad though.

C (23:15)

It's just like a thing for me to explore. Like when we go to la, Jay, who's not with me, my boy, like, he goes and like, does like this like thing with homeless people. And it's not even like, mean. He don't record it or nothing. Like, he just goes, hangs out with homeless people and just like talks to him and just like follows them around and he's interested. And I'm like, I don't do that. It's weird to me. Like they're on drugs or they're schizophrenic. Like, that's, that's probably the answer to most of your questions. But like, yeah, he's, he's just dead ass curious. And I always believe this is something I'm curious about. Like, what are you doing just like, like, like laying down in your home, writing me, telling me like, you're gonna kill me?

B (23:55)

It's always.

C (23:56)

I've had guys make voodoo dolls. There's a guy in South Carolina, he's making voodoo dolls and like burning.

A (24:02)

And are they like standing up for the creeps though, or what is their point?

C (24:05)

No, it's kind of like they think he's the Bully. Yeah, it's, I'm a, I'm a bully.

B (24:10)

He's a bully.

C (24:11)

Yeah.

B (24:12)

Defenseless.

C (24:13)

You only, you only pick on people. Wait till I pick on you type of thing. Oh, and I just feel like I, I, I get it, I get angry and catches but like just me as a person, I'm just, it's such a. Because when I'm, if you're talking to me, I won't catch it.

B (24:26)

I'll be like, oh yeah.

C (24:27)

You know what I mean? But like my real life is kind of just like, hey, why are you saying that about me? You know what I mean? Like, I'm not even mad right now. I'm just like in my, just, I'm just living, I'm not really an angry person. I don't believe I'm, I'm a pretty chill guy. So I read these things as a chill guy because they think that I'm, they see me on the Internet. It's like, oh yeah, he, you think you're this. And it's like, no, dude, like I don't be causing scenes in real life. I don't be like, like somebody don't cut me off a traffic. I go, there's a few ways this is gonna end.

B (24:57)

I can either call the cops, your insurance, or I can smack the like.

C (25:02)

That'S not what I'm doing, man. So like I'm just regular living life and just people are just wanting to kill me and I'm just like, hold on, why, like helping? Yeah.

A (25:13)

What's the percentage of love to hate on the day to day?

C (25:15)

Oh, see that's, that's the up thing is it's like 95% love and 5% hate. You know what I mean? Yeah, I, I, this is the thing. I, I don't even want to say this on camera cuz it's like talking about myself with my pants down. Like the thing I feel most guilty about is I will see 10 messages of I love you, you're a hero and things like that. And it's just like, I don't know, it just feels like so much of a load of a pressure to answer that. And it just feels so much easier to be like, hey, you actually, you.

B (25:43)

Know what I mean?

C (25:44)

Like that just feels like more of like how I'm comfortable talking with people. You know. I'm not like comfortable with talking to people. Like, yes, your hero is here in your DMs now. Like I, I just don't know how to approach that, you know? So like, but those people are the people that I should be like, I spent like 20 minutes talking to this guy. Like, like maybe 15 minutes on the DMS and then 20 minutes on a FaceTime call. And it's like, what the am I doing? At the end of the day, this guy's a piece of. And there would be a bunch of people where it's like, this would make their like, yeah, their night for. For me to like talk to them for 20 minutes. And that's like. Like I said, that's one of the things like I'm ashamed of actually is like I give so much time to like negative energy.

B (26:26)

What it is too is a lot of. It's like, that's not true. I don't want you to think that that's not true. And then you go, hey, let me correct you real quick now I'll never have to answer you again as long as you know that that is not true. That's the one thing. It's like, miss, that's so tough. I don't know what, what like misrepresentation pisses me the up.

C (26:44)

That's so tough, man.

B (26:45)

Cuz like I would have been a creep. I would have been a idiot if you think that of me. I didn't do any of that.

C (26:50)

Yeah, like you're making me sound like a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy.

B (26:53)

That's the thing.

C (26:54)

That's what language is. Is just like we want to be understood. So like we, you. We created words to be understood. And like that's the most frustrating thing is. Is what? Like when just don't understand you. Like that sucks, man. And then some people just don't want to understand or not understanding on purpose. And it's like, why, why, why are you jerk.

B (27:14)

My mom will do that to me all the time. She knows what I'm saying and then she'll pretend that she doesn't. And it's like you're up the conversation and they go, why you getting mad? Because you're purposely misunderstanding what's happening. I'm kidding all the time. I'm just kidding you. Do you know how to conversate? But imagine doing that online. It's not your mom. You're like, hey man, you're a dick. It's the first time I ever talked to you. It is what it is. It's the Internet. The bigger it is, the more people don't like you. Even if you're. There's people out there that I bet like hate what was it? That was epic. The guy that gives away money on YouTube and gives away. I bet you there's people that hate them, bro.

C (27:58)

You go to the comments and it's like, yeah, you're doing this with a camera. Like, God damn. Like, how do you think he's getting the money to do this? Is because he's getting. It's the cameras and not.

B (28:08)

That's how it works.

C (28:09)

You think he's just, like, got a endless amount of money. Like, just. People just never stop with that. It's just never, never stop. Like, people are just. It's just never enough, you know?

B (28:20)

Yeah. And I think a new generation, a lot of people are very like, well, what about me? I get that a lot.

C (28:27)

When I.

B (28:28)

When I post, we like, dude, here I am over here struggling to make my rent. You're over here smoking four joints. Like, how the did I do that? I didn't do that to you. Why is that why you. And they'll like, you're a piece of. I get it every day. I don't even want to do, like, do DMS with me because you guys will absolutely lose faith in people. It is the. I get some of the weirdest you've ever seen. I just get high. It's weird, man. So, yeah, don't worry about it. Focus on the nice people.

C (28:57)

For sure.

B (28:57)

You could ever say, that's all right, man. I'll DM you back. Sorry I didn't get to all five of your DMs. That's what starts doing. Sorry, I keep missing your DM so you don't hit you back. Whenever they start being mean to me. They don't. Oh, I love it. You know what I used to do? I used to be real petty when I. When I first started Instagram.

C (29:12)

Yeah.

B (29:12)

If you were rude to me, I would look through your followers and find your parents.

C (29:17)

Oh. Oh, yeah.

B (29:18)

But hey, your son sending me the DM just to let you know, under your roof.

C (29:22)

He's telling you to kill me, bro.

B (29:26)

Oh, my God. I. I love it when they. When I first started, I was in college. It's like, I'm not paying attention to class, dog. I'll message you back. I don't want to be here. Oh, man. Or find their friends like, you know your friend saying, some wild in my dms, man, I would hang out with that guy for you.

C (29:43)

Oh, man, I've sinned. You know what I mean? I've sinned. Like, arguing with guys like, there. There's guys like, yeah, you. Like, I hope you die, die, die, friend this and that. Like, I get A lot of, like, buak all the time. Like, I'm pissing on Buck's grave right now, and it's like, bro, if they don't let me find a dead person on your Instagram, you know what I mean? I'm up, bro. Like, I, I, I won't be like, dad. Huh? Yeah, exactly. Huh. I said I was be like, yeah, you wish your pops was here to see you send these DMs, huh? Like I said, I've sinned, man. I've crossed lines that I feel guilty for crossing. Yeah, I've crossed lines, man.

B (30:28)

Yo, you know, we had Pac man on here earlier. You know what he said? Yeah. Well, do you talk? How's Marty's like, dude, like, talking crazy online. He goes, I will look at everyone's face before the game and Google who, their parents, anything about them. And I'm saying their families first names. Oh, my God, I would lose my. Oh, my God. He's like, but, you know, after you, you apologize, you tell people like, yo, it's just part of the game. He's like, I personally, I don't apologize. Like, what the you say then? That was crazy, bro. So, yes, the Internet, man. We're all, we're all guilty of doing. They were like, maybe I shouldn't have done that. Maybe I shouldn't have dmdrick work, you know what I mean?

C (31:10)

Like, we have a guy that. We have a guy that DMS. My. My boy JB, he does my show with my YouTube show with me, and we had a guy that literally is DMing it. Like, he had a HR meeting at his job because this guy's calling his job and being like, did you hear what JV said on this podcast? And like, he's like saying all kinds of crazy. Like, making up, saying, like, JB said he was going to shoot people or something. Because he was like, he's like saying a joke. He's like, oh, I kill myself and everybody about something. Like, he said that about, like, something. And he's like, he's making threats to killing people. And his HR brought him in and was like, the going on. This guy makes YouTube videos about us. And like, he, he takes, he does. He'll be like, excuse me, everybody. Show episode three, notes one. And then he'll watch the show screen, record the show and be like, his history. You see right here that Josh says. And it's like, bro, people are so weird out there.

B (32:05)

Yeah, how does he make money, like, at home if he's doing that all day? Does he have A job. That's why I think about people. Like, dude, it's 2:00am and you're over here talking. You left 40 comments.

C (32:15)

And I. And he. So he wears a mask. And he had on. He had. He's gonna wash this. He's a psycho. So he wears a mask.

B (32:22)

We know you're one of the guys that got caught and that's why you're doing this. He got caught a long time.

C (32:27)

He wears a mask and then he has like camo on. So it kind of gave me like chills. I'm like, okay, is this guy gonna like, kill me? I write him. I'm like, hey, what's up, bud? Like, hey, what's up, bud? You know, like, what's going on, dude? And he's like. He's like, what's up, man? He's like, me and you are going to team up and take down Alex Rosen together.

B (32:45)

I'm like, why do I know that name?

A (32:47)

Why?

C (32:47)

He's the. He's the predator catcher.

B (32:49)

He's like, can I please ask you a question about him?

C (32:51)

Go ahead.

B (32:52)

I seen him on Twitter.

C (32:53)

Yeah.

B (32:54)

Being horribly racist and saying the most ever. And then I watch him in person. Like, the only time I ever saw a video was he asked a predator come and he's like, bring two burritos. And he just ate them in his face. And I couldn't stop laughing. He's all, those are for me. Who is this man? That was hilarious. And I saw his Twitter. Yeah, he's the same guy.

C (33:15)

Yeah.

B (33:15)

That's his Twitter.

C (33:16)

Yeah. We. We don't. We don't.

B (33:18)

You don't get along with him? Okay, see, I don't know about this inner circle.

C (33:22)

He. I don't even want to. He's. He's. He's not that great of a guy.

B (33:26)

Oh, I saw him say some weird once too. Yeah. And that was like, wait, aren't you the guy that catches people?

C (33:33)

Sensationalist type of idea of like.

B (33:35)

I thought it was fake.

C (33:37)

No, honestly, I thought it was like whatever you see about him. Like, I saw the video. The things about him also is like, he's a. I'm trying to think of like maybe the Nick Fuentes type of guy. Like he stands on it.

B (33:48)

I just saw him recently.

C (33:49)

Yeah, he'll stand on pretty racist.

B (33:53)

It feels like.

C (33:54)

Yeah. Able to say some like that out loud. And like I. Bro, just. Alex displays just like open racism, you know?

B (34:02)

And he chills with the Jyon fool. And that F's black. Yeah. As night. And he's over Here saying horrible on Twitter.

C (34:09)

I don't know what's going on.

B (34:10)

I don't know. I don't know it.

C (34:11)

I don't know what's going on with those guys.

B (34:12)

I had like a three week giddy on binge and I was like, I'm over it. But that was like last year. And then I saw you guys got into it and I told Rosie this. The guy's talking to Josh and Jay.

C (34:21)

Yeah.

B (34:22)

What happened?

C (34:24)

Basically, like, they do the whole thing. So if they don't get. If they don't get a. The whole thing is okay. I've been doing this for six years. And when you catch a predator. And we were, we were hitting guys for the longest. We weren't doing any of that. So we're trying to get arrest, we're trying to get convictions. And today that's still a bonus, but that's not the goal. But we're. We're catching guys. And it's like they're showing up three hours. We call the police, and it takes the police three hours to get there. Like, a lot of.

B (34:59)

You hold them there. Can't.

C (35:00)

I can't hold the guy there. So they will stay there. A lot of times if you like, they got. They're, they're, they're stuck in their mind. They're. You know what I mean? You could. That's why I can walk up to him and be like, you got weapons on you start checking their pockets because they're like, fried. It is kind of crazy.

B (35:19)

You pat them down like you're robbing. I'm like, got any on you?

C (35:23)

Yeah.

B (35:23)

Let's walk with me.

A (35:24)

We did always say, like, how shocking it is that they just stand there.

C (35:27)

And just like, they're not. You don't know what the. Going on. I could be a cop. I could be like anything.

B (35:34)

People be like, you don't have the.

C (35:35)

Right to do that. I'm like, they're not stopping me. Like, they're not saying no. I'm like, I'm not.

B (35:40)

Yeah.

C (35:40)

You know what I mean? And what's. What's the difference between me patting your pocket or me dapping you up and hugging you? Not much legally, you know, it's fair.

B (35:48)

Yeah, I guess so, huh?

C (35:49)

Yeah.

B (35:50)

It's not like you're hitting them. Okay, so.

C (35:52)

Okay. Yeah. Where. Where was I?

B (35:54)

You're waiting three hours to get convictions.

C (35:56)

Well, not even. I'm waiting for Blunt. I'm waiting for Crocodile Dundee.

B (36:02)

Look at that. It looks like an actual piece of wood.

C (36:06)

That's a log.

B (36:08)

That's a log, dude.

C (36:13)

So anyways, the police. Let's be realistic. I'm a little bit exaggerating with three hours, but probably an hour and a half it takes police to show up on a radio.

B (36:21)

More than 10 minutes is crazy.

C (36:23)

Yeah, right.

B (36:23)

We pay taxes.

C (36:24)

These are pedophiles. They're Jeffrey Dahmers. Right.

B (36:26)

We want to catch them.

C (36:27)

These guys are molesting a child, is up there with, like, killing people, in my opinion. And I think that's a lot of the worst things you can do.

B (36:33)

Yeah.

C (36:34)

If you ask three random people outside any, like, food market, like, hey, what's the worst crimes in the world? Probably murder, molestation, or.

B (36:42)

Probably know the last one.

C (36:43)

Exactly.

B (36:44)

Yeah. Like, that's pretty much the two.

C (36:46)

Right. You know?

B (36:47)

Well, I mean, I kind of put the molestation.

C (36:49)

Yeah, basically. Yeah. So that's. That's it. But yet they don't put any energy into that. You know what I mean? They put no effort of our tax dollars into, like, catching these guys.

B (37:01)

When they do show up, do they arrest people?

C (37:03)

No. So when they show up, okay, keep me on.

B (37:05)

You're good at why, though.

C (37:07)

You're good at your job.

B (37:08)

So this is why I argue with people like they do. They don't get arrested. Would you rather go free or get smacked the up?

C (37:14)

So, okay, so the police show up. Now it's like, okay, you guys go this way. You guys go this way. Well, fellas, we're gonna have a detective come. So now it takes another hour, hour and a half for a detective to show up. Now we're sitting there. I'm giving them their information. They're. They're saying. They're walking back and forth. They talk to each other. So now we're sitting there for another hour, hour and a half, and they give me a card. At the end of the. At the end of all this, they give me a card, email all this information to this. So the predator that was detained in. In handcuffs. Because a lot of times you'll see on these channels all the prayers and handcuffs, and he's in the car arrest.

B (37:56)

They got him, bro.

C (37:58)

They're detained.

B (37:59)

They go.

C (37:59)

They're detained. So a cop, a police officer. I could be making this up. You know what I mean? I could be framing it. I could be like. Especially with AI nowadays, I could be making this up. So a regular police officer just can't come and charge a guy. So, like, these are like. This is like inside baseball that most audience thinks is, like, a natural American. A natural American, average American, like, Looks at that and goes, hey, a police officer should step in there and stop this guy. He's trying to molest a kid.

A (38:28)

Kid.

C (38:29)

But there's so many, like, just inside baseball stuff of just. I could be making it up. They got to call a detective that works with child sex crimes. Not even just like, a police detective or just like, hey, detective. Like, it's a specialized, like. And so we. We wait there. They give me an email, and then maybe they call me back in, like, a week. And guess what? A lot of times they don't. You know what I mean? I've caught 750 guys, and I don't even have 100 convictions. So it's.

B (38:59)

And that's before you started the second wave of.

C (39:01)

Oh, yeah, yeah.

B (39:02)

Because before you just try to get him arrested, you're not getting any conviction.

C (39:05)

Exactly.

B (39:07)

It's almost like a slap in the face, literally.

C (39:10)

Yeah.

B (39:10)

For them, not convicted people have all that. Infants. That's crazy.

C (39:14)

Yeah. So you have that happening, and then it's like, okay, so I just wasted six hours of my time to sit here and tell you to just send me this email. You know what I mean? You know how long it takes to catch bread? 2 and a half hours. I could have caught three predators while you sat here and wasted my time. You know what I mean? So after years of doing this, it's like, are you gonna keep doing the same stupid. Of, like, I'll just call you and ask you for your email and be like, hey, I had this evidence. I caught these guys. Do you want it? They say yes. They say no. We don't work with groups like, you. Okay, but if you want it, you got it. And then we send the evidence over in a. In an email to the detectives and save us a whole bunch of, like, wasted time. That's why, like, dude, I have children. So, like, I leave for four or five days of the, like, of a week, probably, like 12 days a month maybe. And, like, I'm away from my family. You know what I mean? And I don't have a. Like, I'm fully invested in this. This is how I pay my bills. Like, if I don't do this, my kids starve. You know what I mean? So I have to, like, put my time into this, and my time has to mean something. And if I'm, like, catching one guy and it's literally taking me, like, eight hours when I could be catching, like, I'm. I'm wasting, like, my ability to do good for the community. We could keep exposing so many More guys and just, like, cutting the.

B (40:41)

Yeah.

C (40:43)

And the thing. And they'll be like, oh, well, that's why they should be on the registry. It's like, bro, you know how many people on the registry we catch? That's. That's the problem is we don't even promote the registry. We. It's. It's not even a punishment. Like, there's judges in there that are handing out probation. And registry is like, got him, didn't we? We really showed him. We put him on the registry. It's like, the dude don't have a job anyways. He lives at his grandma's anyways, so who cares if he, like, oh, it shows up when he tries to get a job. He was never gonna get a job. Like, what. What punishment?

B (41:19)

It's not doing anything.

C (41:20)

And it's like, we got him. That's so he don't get sent to prison. You know what I mean? And my whole thing of, like, we could wrap this up in so many ways. It's such a big spear of information. But my whole thing is like, this is so much bigger than just one catch. This is like, okay, I catch this guy. And, like, the communities watch out for this guy. But watch how I treat this guy. Like, I don't treat this guy like, hey, dude, if I beat you in Mortal Kombat, I won't call the cops. Like, I've seen fools do that. Yeah.

B (41:50)

Like Predator shows.

C (41:52)

And it's like. And then, like, you see kids go like. Like, look how he's treating the pedophile. And it's like, bro, this is a demon. This is a person that wanted to have sex with a child. Like, that's scary. Like, that if a murderer was next to you in Walmart, you would want to know that. You know what I mean? That's what the excuse me, everybody is for. To, like, show you. Like, wake up. Like, you would want to know if a killer was next to you. If a guy in your city.

B (42:19)

That's why you say that.

C (42:20)

Exactly. If a guy was in. If you. If you were shopping next to a guy and he's grabbing milk next to you and he's like, has a person in his basement, why don't you feel more comfortable knowing, like, hey, with your girl or with your kids?

B (42:31)

Like, this does some.

C (42:33)

Yeah. And I feel like everybody that I catch, I'm catching them in their neighborhood. So, like, you can't go to that store no more. And now they realize, like, hey, let's go home and, like, check our kids's device because they were just like a pedophile trying to meet it. I have a third. Like, I don't, but I have a third. Let's say they're a parent at the store. I have a 13 year old girl at home. This guy was. There's a guy trying to meet him for sexual. I better go check my daughter's phone. So there's so much that plays into these, these things that people look at and go, oh, you're just doing this because you're trying to go viral. You think like hitting people gets me viral? Like that don't get you paid. It might get you, it might give me viral on Twitter, but like not by my accounts. My accounts are getting taken down. So like it. That doesn't get you paid, but I'm sacrificed. I'm sacrificing the Santa suit. That'll get me 3 million views where I have like a bunch of cameramans dressed up like elves. And I'm saying, and it's like, I have a present for you and it's the chat logs that'll go crazy. And, and it would, I put it on YouTube, it would make me maybe 20, $30,000. But like, I'll sacrifice that and keep the integrity and, and keep showing that. Like, no, this is like actually scary. And you should like really be like afraid of these people. These people are like demons. They're scary people. They'll hurt your kids, you know what I mean? Like if there was like a loose like bear on the streets, you'd be like terrified, you know what I mean? They'll eat your kids. Like this guy will ruin your kids life and then like your kids will have their, like their kids will have kids and they'll like have to grow up with like their parent going through some. They might develop a drug addiction, they might develop like a mental issue, all kinds of stuff. And then it's like generations down because of this one nasty psycho freak. And that's where it comes into like putting hands on them and smacking them is just showing you. Like, bro, we've given the government how long? I mean America's about to turn 250 years. And it's like, what are we doing about the pedophilia problem? Like, we've done the women's rights. We, we figured out to the best of our ability so far of like race relations. Like, we figure out even the child labor, but like we've had this glaring issue of like human trafficking and child molestation. Like, and it's just like what have we Done to like really stop that. And it's like, and it's like we pay you to stop that. Like if we, if we, if we got to talk to our like police chiefs and it's like, okay, what do you guys want to do? I'm sure more people would say stop like pedophiles than like we should have another guy at the stoplight waiting to see if people go eight over. Yeah. You think that's what the people are paying for? And I'm the only, I'm the only person that's in this field that's like talking about that. Everybody else is just like, what can I do for the next video? And it's like, the next video. I don't even give a about the predator that I'm smacking now because this means, this means so much more like people seeing me smack predators and call them demonstration. That is worth way more than a thirty thousand dollar Santa suit video on YouTube. Yeah. You know what I mean?

B (45:41)

So I mean the only one I subscribe to, you know what I mean? Like, well, there's a reason though, because it's not even a smack.

C (45:47)

It's the.

B (45:50)

I like seeing the looks on people's faces when they realize like, oh, you're done. Now everybody knows. That's the thing. I like seeing like now everybody knows. And I hope 50 people know you and then they never with you again and you just wither away by yourself.

C (46:04)

And that's what it is.

B (46:05)

That's what I, I just. They're gonna think twice about next time they go outside.

C (46:09)

It's. It's exactly, that's what it is. As I want them to think twice. I don't want them to think people are going to see them and just look the other way because it's awkward. No. Yeah, bro. Ain't no more looking the other way so he can have the milk aisle. So everybody goes, oh, it's the pedophile guy. Like, let's go act like we're gonna go buy chips. Or why the are you letting this guy have power in here? Just because like he's a bad guy. Get this out the store to whatever you're comfortable of your ability. You know, if you smack that one time in your hometown. This is what I always say. And, and it's. I don't want to say I'm advocating for violence. I'm just saying in a theoretical world, let's play pretend I smack a pedophile on you on, on Instagram. And I say, you know, Instagram, if this guy Shows up at your Walmart. You seen him on my video, he came to meet a kid. Or you see a registered sex offender at your Walmart, like those guys are demons. Unforgivable. If you put your hands on them, they're probably going to be second guessing going to that Walmart again. So now it's like, okay, now they're not going to go to Walmart, but they still got to get gas. Okay, if another does your job and puts hands on them at the gas station, he's probably getting out of town because he can't get gas. He can't go to the, can't go to the grocery store. And, and they'll be like, and the, and the next person, the only people that have problems with that is be like, yeah, just make it some other town's problem. Well they're going to have to do the same thing and eventually they end up on a island. Cuz that's the only choices that you're leaving us. I already pay police to do it. You know what I mean? I already pay them to do it. So like do you want me to pay them more to not do it or would you like, like don't be mad at my plan B when nobody else even has a plan, a plan at all.

B (47:48)

Well the way put it this way, every social, every civil right argument, everything, what happens, Everybody tries to go government first and be legal and then what happens? Riot starts and they, what do they say? No, no justice, no peace. That's the same thing you're doing. If you really want to think about it, how many times you wait for the law to get here, I'll do it.

C (48:11)

And it's just happened like, and it's like a, it's like an evolutionary trait. Like I didn't do that on purpose. I was trying, I was trying to came out. I don't know what, I was trying to be a good boy, you know what I mean? And it's just like this is just what naturally, like it's a natural progression and I just won't pretend to, like, I just won't pretend that it's okay. You know what I mean? I won't pretend that like listen, I got kids, I'm not gonna felonious assault anybody. Like I'm not gonna like break any bones. Like that's where it comes in the smacks. I'm not ever really like punching a, like I, I, I, I've, I've smacked hundreds of pedophiles. I've only beat up like 10, you know what I mean like really kicked their ass. But it, it, it's just to show like there's no force field in this world. And I, I feel like bad people deserve to be touched.

B (49:00)

That's all, that's all I ever think about. Cuz when I show people like you like them, like he's a pedophile. What happens if he does some to your kids? What are you gonna say? I'm gonna kill him. Like, why weren't you acting like that when he did something else? So here's the story is that pisses me off.

C (49:14)

I've been doing this six years and I've gotten probably, and no exaggeration, over a hundred thousand messages over so many platforms of people's stories of what happened to them, what happened to their daughter, what happened to their sister. And it's, I'm not even exaggerating, man. I'm just not here to make up like all of their stories. There's like, and we didn't get justice and the police let him go and he's still walking around and I still have to see him. And, and it's like every story, I don't get stories of like actually my, my rapist got locked up for 25 years. I don't get those stories. So like that's what shaped me, you know what I mean? Like I started off thinking like there was like a, a world where like justice did exist in this, like in this thing, you know, if there's like. And then you just see like legal, legal like, like bro, if they don't talk sexual. A guy could like a guy could call a girl a 12 year old girl. Beautiful. I can't wait to see you. You're so beautiful. You're even so sexy. But as long as they don't talk about having sex, it's not illegal. So a lot of times you'll be, you'll see Alex and all these other catches and even a lot of my catches. Or they're like, oh, these guys look slow. And it's like, yeah, because they talk sexual. Like the smart guys. Don't smart guys know that, that, oh, if I cross this line that actually makes it illegal. And those are the guys I love smacking the most because they're careful.

B (50:40)

Yeah, like the, the guy that showed up, I didn't realize he was parked on someone's lawn. Remember the guy that showed up, faded to meet that kid, the, the boy and he smacked one of your homies and he got smacked, slapped by Dr.

C (50:54)

I wasn't there for that.

B (50:55)

One.

C (50:55)

No, I wasn't there for that one. But I know what you're talking about so bad, bro. He turned him off.

B (51:01)

That was bad.

C (51:02)

He sucked, bro. He was just sitting my boy. My boy's little black eye.

B (51:07)

Yeah, he got snapped. He got caught.

C (51:09)

But punched him right out of frame.

B (51:11)

Yes, he punched him right out of frame. Exactly. But it's. It's fools like that. That guy's probably a lawyer. He came in a nice car and throw three in the morning faced. I know what I said. I didn't say sex the way they say it. I didn't say sexuriates me.

C (51:26)

Oh, I love that. I didn't say nothing. Did I say anything about sex?

B (51:30)

Wow.

C (51:31)

Does it matter? Did you think I was gonna be like, well actually the law. You're right, the law.

B (51:36)

I'm already here 2 in the morning. What do you think's gonna happen to you? Like I. I just like seeing the fear of like I might get stabbed to death right now. I just need. I think they need that cuz half these guys you meet, they probably never did it again because they're so scared. You know what I mean? Like you probably scared people so bad they move states and quit their job. Like you know what's happened? People change. You might have changed some for the good. Like even though they're pieces of. They might completely be changed around about being creeps. The half. Other half obviously are just creeps. They got caught.

C (52:07)

They're mad.

B (52:07)

They got caught. One day you'll be able to kill these guys in the street. I don't know. I feel like prison's got it right. Like who came in. Oh, kill him. Yeah, I get it.

C (52:17)

And it's like they keep. And it. I. I started with.

B (52:22)

I'm not saying kill people. Sorry.

C (52:24)

And in like 2020, the, the Epstein stuff really started picking up again. And that's when we started. It's just been like kind of like a. It's just been two waves crashing into each other. And like the culture is just really kind of fed up with. With all the pedophilia, you know what I mean? And just looking back on our history and like we've just been taking it like for so long. You know what I mean? Like it's just been like open, chill. Open and chill. And in a lot of cultures, like it still is. Like I. I grew up in, in Ohio and I had a lot of friends in Michigan where like their, their friends are getting like married off and get like 14 years old and getting sent to Afghanistan and It's like, bro, Americans, American girl. Well, you have Afghani American girls. They're born here. You have born here. Oh, I thought born here. Afghanistan.

A (53:15)

Dearborn.

B (53:16)

Yeah. Like, their parents are from that country.

C (53:21)

Yeah. So I was like, why Afghanistan? They'll be in school. They'll be in school, be grow up from first grade to eighth grade, and then all of a sudden they go get married to a 50 year old man, G. Yeah. And they don't have any. They don't have a. They don't have a say about it.

B (53:34)

Yeah, that culture is very odd with that. I don't agree with anybody that's doing anything like that. And I'll fight you for it. Not for real. Like, I'll argue to the death for it. That's crazy in your culture. That's just cool. I don't like it and I don't have to like it.

A (53:49)

Do you think there's people from my hometown that just got arrested for facilitating that type of like 20, 25 that is going down?

B (53:59)

Yeah. I don't know what. I don't know what culture likes that, but they. They with it. And it's a weird. Like, I hear a lot of soldiers talk about it from the war and they're like, yeah, that shit's fine over here. Yeah, it's very barbaric to me.

C (54:12)

I feel it's sick.

B (54:14)

Yeah, it truly is.

A (54:16)

I got a question. Are you having the issue at all with like, how Ashton Kutcher with punk where, like, am I getting punked? Like, are they knowing who you are when you show up at all?

C (54:23)

A lot of times, yeah, they do already. A lot of times. Yeah. A lot of times they'll be like, I see your video videos, and that's.

B (54:29)

Like scoping out the enemy. That's like watching game footage.

A (54:32)

Yeah.

B (54:32)

Watching this guy's videos. And you're a creep. Like, what do I got to do?

A (54:35)

It's like being a serial killer watching Dexter to know what not to do type.

B (54:42)

I know you talked about before, but you've had people that you've caught hit you back up. Like, yo, thank you. I needed this thing in my life. Obviously it's a little covered. I feel I don't trust anybody's already done that. But have you got any updates on any of these people ever?

C (54:56)

Not really, man. All right, that's like something major happens, right?

B (55:00)

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A (56:01)

Is the number of like, catchers, like rising? Is it?

C (56:05)

You know, I don't. I think here's the thing is like a lot of people will be like, I want to catch predators. And there's a lot of. I think there's a lot of. You see a lot of people. I don't think there's a lot of people consistently catching predators you could catch anymore. You can catch anybody. Here's the thing is anybody can catch predators. Like you can catch predators in your city and you'll do it like you catch a lot in your city. But then it's like, okay, do you want to go catch more? And the thing is, is people will catch four predators and be like, new merch drop. And like there are, like you have. There's so much money that you have to grow. It costs money to travel. Like, you got to bring a friend. And the biggest thing that people don't understand is you got to have the time. Time. Like if you're working, if I had a full time job, I don't have time to do this. So like you, it's. It's almost like you need.

B (56:55)

Is there like a place you can give a Grant to by yo, here's 15k a month for like 5 companies. It's enough to pay your bill for the day. You open for the day of your bill for the day. Catch betters today, right? That'd be great. Like a fantasy football. Instead a bunch of dudes get together.

C (57:09)

That's what we pay taxes for.

B (57:11)

Yeah, but like, if I was a cop, like, yo, who wants to round up today? But we gotta have to do it ourselves.

C (57:18)

That's like, that's what the problem is.

B (57:22)

So I'll gladly donate to this.

C (57:25)

That's the issue is just like, okay, so you gotta have a place to stay, you gotta have phones. Because once you're. Once you get banned so many times, you gotta reset your phone. If you reset your phone so many times now you can't use it no more. So now you gotta get a new phone.

B (57:36)

Oh, really?

C (57:36)

Yeah. So like, you're facing all these issues and it's like, oh, you want to go have, have like a good number or something? Like, now you got to turn your phone service on because what you're going to use like WI Fi when you're outside of a Burger King trying to wait for a guy to catch. Like, there's. And like I said, now I. Now not only do I have to have four days for a weekend, but I got to have two friends to have four days for a weekend and I got to have a place for them to stay. I got to have a place for travel, for all this stuff. I got to have a dog. I got to have a person watch my dog. I got to have somebody feed my cats. I gotta have. Make sure my kids are taking care of, babysat. And it's like everybody else has the same problems I have. And it's like, if you're starting from. I'm blessed to. Been doing this for years and people built up a trust with so many people, you know, and like, they invest in me and I give them what they invest in. Or like, yeah, you know what I mean? So people will catch three guys in their city and be like, okay, I want to go here, but I don't have the money to go here, so let me sell some T shirts to go here. And it's like, you haven't built that trust up. So it's almost, I think nowadays without like YouTube supporting it and giving like ad revenue to that, it's almost like damn near impossible to create, like, consistent, like, to create consistent catching. Unless you have like, unless you have just money funneling it. You know what I mean?

B (59:02)

Yeah.

C (59:02)

Like taxes. There's like Maybe there's like maybe six people if that. I think right now that are probably paying their bills. Predator catching. So, like, there might be. There might be like 10, 000 people catching predators, but there's maybe six paying the bills.

B (59:18)

Is there anybody. You see that you're like, good job. Good for you.

C (59:22)

You know, I, I don't want to seem like a. It's always just.

B (59:25)

He's having. You're not really out there watching.

C (59:27)

I don't. Yeah. I don't even watch my videos just because, like, it's like, damn, I just want to get away from it. You know what I mean? I get home and I just want to do something other than like being this evil state. Yeah. And on top of that, I say that and then it's like, well, I gotta manage my Instagram and I gotta do all this. So it's like, then I end up not wanting to do it, but I'm in it anyways. And it just becomes like something that I'm doing that I don't like to do, you know? So then people are sending me like, hey, can you watch my video? I'm like, I don't even want to watch mine, but I gotta make a clip of it right now, you know? So it's like, I don't, you know, it's just not. I don't know, it's just. And I, and I'm just such, such like a black sheep. And like the other I say six people, I'm one of the people that pays their bills and the other five people, like, don't like me. So.

B (60:14)

So back to what we're saying. What is you're talking about? Get the convictions, do all that for the first year. Then we started changing because we're, we're waiting. Like I said, no justice, no peace. I'll do it myself.

C (60:23)

So the. I just feel like this all is just such a big story to tell. So the slaps come in as a form of. I believe pedophilia is rooted in power. I don't even believe it's like a sexual orientation. I believe when they'll be like, oh, you only hit the weak people. It's because that's the people I catch. And it's because they're weak. Because they are, like, it just is what it is. And they want like, power. They want somebody to be better than. You know what I mean? Like, okay, I can be smarter than this 15 year old. Like, look at this 15 year old is dumb. And, and it's, it's one of those situations where they have power over an individual, where, in other words, they have no opportunity to have power in any other part of society. And then you have the rich Epstein types of pedophiles who've had every source of power in society, like, oh, you got nicer clothes than me. Bet you got more money than me. Bet you got a faster car than me. Bet you got a bigger house than me.

A (61:17)

Bet.

C (61:18)

But like, now it's like, what else could I have power over? And that's where it becomes like, I just really believe it happens. On so much of those cases. It's the. It's never really the middle guy. It's always the super powerful guy and the super low level trash people that just have nothing going for them because they're just. They've allowed evil to enter them and they just let it go, you know? I mean, let it flow. And I just believe that. What I like, I think they deserve a way, way worse than smacking. But like, smacking a man versus, like, if I punched you, you. You probably kicked my ass, man. But if I punched you and we started fighting and, and if you lost, like, okay, I punched you first. That's like, it's whatever two grown men like. But if I smacked you and you didn't do about it, like, Marty's going to look at you like, bro, why.

B (62:08)

You let him smack you like that?

C (62:11)

He's going to be like, what the dude? Like, but like, so what if I punch you and. And we fight? Fight and I beat you and I win. Yeah, we fought like, whatever, man.

B (62:19)

Like, it's degrading to get smacked.

C (62:21)

Yeah, it's degrading. So like, you're getting smack. That's where the smack comes in. Because if I punch you, it's like, it's a fight. Who cares if you get up and punch me back? I respect you, but if you. I'm. I'm smacking you. And only one guy's ever punched me. I've only been punched by one predator.

B (62:37)

In the, in the liquors store.

C (62:39)

I. I smacked the short, fatter guy. Yeah, he was quick.

B (62:42)

Quick.

A (62:42)

Yeah.

C (62:43)

Yeah, he punched me. He punched me one good time. And bro, I get punched one time out of smacking 100 people and it's like, you got your ass beat by a predator.

B (62:50)

It's like, bro, still a guy.

C (62:52)

I beat his ass.

B (62:53)

That's why I've been in prison.

C (62:54)

Beat his ass too, man.

B (62:55)

Yeah. Video. But the clip.

C (62:59)

One punch. I get punched once.

B (63:01)

Yeah, I know, exactly.

C (63:02)

And honestly, I'm like, yeah, I kind of. Out of all the pedophiles, I respect him. Cuz, like, I've smacked so many guys that just sit there, take it. Because they're rats. And it's a power thing. They have no power. What are they going to do to. What are they going to do to another man with power?

B (63:13)

No, now that there's not a kid.

C (63:14)

Yeah.

B (63:15)

And that's why prisoners treat them like. Because of that right there. Like, what are you going to do about it? You can't. Yeah, spit on.

C (63:24)

That's the type of people they are.

A (63:25)

When you say it takes two and a half hours, like, what, What? How does it go? Like, how.

B (63:29)

So, like, you can start to finish.

C (63:32)

I wake up whether it's on. Like, listen, you can have an Instagram and a guy writes you and you say, hey, I'm 13 years old. And they go, yeah, guy nudes. I got you. And now all I got to do is find your Facebook. And they're like, bro, I'll show up at your job. That's enough for me. You might need some more from the police or some like that, but for me, that's enough. You know what I mean? I'll show up at your job. So, like, don't let me find out who you are, where you work, or if we're doing a more natural way, something like Insta or like a Grinder account, like where it's like a gay dating thing. They write me, I say, I'm 14. They go, okay. And then we continue to talk on there. And they'd be like, well, are you a top or bottom? I'll be like, bottom. They'll be like, meet me at the cvs. And we could do that in like hour. You know, I'm glad I got off a plane and got to catch in a half hour before.

A (64:22)

So you're just throwing up, like, new accounts. You throw up the new account and it. Like, how often you got to make new accounts?

B (64:29)

Or these AI pictures.

C (64:31)

Yeah, yeah. I want to give away the sauce.

B (64:37)

But you know what I mean? Like, now we're just going through modeling portfolios and finding kids with short hair. What the. Like, what are you doing?

C (64:46)

Yeah, no, for sure. Yeah.

B (64:47)

She's like, there's just pictures of me at 14. Yeah, it's just pictures of himself.

C (64:51)

No, because what they started to do early on and I. I would get them. I just don't want to give away too much sauce. I don't think this.

B (64:57)

Don't give it away. Don't.

C (64:58)

No, this is like I promise. Okay? I promise. I'm. I'm a vet. I want to do it.

B (65:01)

None of those creeps are watching our channel. Yeah, and if you are, don't stop, stop.

C (65:08)

You stop. That's it. So, yeah, we. They would always ask for like, send me a picture with three fingers up. And I started reversing that on them. Cuz it's like they're always scared to like show their face and like that. So I'll be like, you send me a picture with three fingers up. And that's my version of decoy. And I think that's why I'm like the Michael Jordan, like predator catching decoying. Because like, is because I take their logic and reverse it on them. And like, I'm just like. Like I'm. I'm a kid. Like, I'm scared. Like, what do you mean? That's why we got to meet inside the store. The number one hardest thing to be a predator catcher, if you're trying to start off, is how to get them out the car. And that's where it comes in my bro. This is where I gotta talk about my brother for a second. This is where it comes. Is so funny. Is so 99 of predator catches. They go, okay, I can't get him out the car. Like, I'll try to get him inside. How do I get this guy out the car? How do I get him inside? Like, I just can't. Because when you. They can just drive off. Who cares? In the car. And my. My boy Boo park Shakur man in Pontiac, Michigan. This was like he not one second was, how do I get him out the car? He's like, I'm about to their car up.

B (66:23)

Bro.

C (66:23)

Slash their tires, bust their windshields. And guess what? They get out their car and start looking about.

B (66:29)

Look at the car. I know exactly which one you're talking.

C (66:32)

And I'm like, that. That's ingenuity. That's thinking outside the boxes. Like, everybody's looking at like the problem over here. And he went like, why don't we just bust the car up? And like where they drive off to it.

B (66:44)

Flat tires.

C (66:46)

Exactly.

A (66:48)

So much worse.

B (66:49)

I've always thought it was funny. Like, make sure it's him first. Could you imagine like, dog, my wife's getting candy. You popped on my tires. That was the only thing I'm like, be careful.

C (66:59)

I was with him. He popped this guy three tires. He popped three tires. And the guy, he drives to a tire shop, which was like around the block. My boy follows and pops his other tire.

B (67:11)

While he.

C (67:12)

While he's sitting at the tire shop, a legend, dude. Hold on.

B (67:19)

The fact that that guy went. My biggest problem right now is tires, not the fact that I just got caught being a pedophile. Let me get him fixed now. That's a responsible dude. I would have waited to get them all fixed.

C (67:33)

Bro. He was crazy, man. Catch people at his job. He called. He worked at topgolf, called a guy at topgolf got fired for it. Like, he.

B (67:42)

You got a guy where he comes in where he works and got fired for doing it.

C (67:46)

Yeah, he called it like a co worker. He caught it like a co worker who worked with. Yeah, this caught like a. A CEO at a jail. He. He did so much good work. And the thing about him is if you're ever. That's a right there how I said, oh, you can't do it. That did like. He never left Pontiac, Michigan. He had over 100 catches in the same city. That's Batman, bro. Like, I've had to go leave because I. I had to go leave and do like other cities because I've. I've caught everybody in Fremont. Okay, you caught everybody in, like, I can in like this area of Ohio, this area of Michigan. So let me go to Indiana. Let me go to Florida. I'm in Alaska catching predators because, like, you know what I mean?

B (68:26)

So slipping and sliding. Yeah.

C (68:28)

So like that, like, never left his hometown. Went to work every day to fund predator catching. Drinking 40s and smoking weed on the way to go catch him, like, just doing a super Pontiac Michigan style. And he's just a legend. The only guy that ever like, just self funded his own. Did it for his own city, man. He's got a mural in there. He deserves it. Rip Blue park, man.

B (68:55)

Yes. If we can have like, we only need 50 of them. Yeah, you only need, like, not that many. All this is what I said. I said this a couple months ago. All the gang banging assholes that like, want to run people for snitching out of their neighborhood. And all this don't do to the pedophiles in their neighborhood. How about you beat the out of them and make them move?

C (69:15)

Culture change. I'm trying to have like, what the. No stitches. Like, oh, I see a stitch, I'm gonna beat his ass. How about we do that for pedophiles?

B (69:22)

That guy rare in jail, you would beat his ass. But out here it's like, oh, what's up, my sweet? I say it all the time. All the gay bangers that are hard and Go rob pedophiles houses. Yeah, there's an app when you're home.

C (69:36)

Invade their address their. And if it's felonious there ain't allowed to have weapons. So.

B (69:43)

All I'm saying, if you're gonna pick someone's house to home invade, pick the guy that's not probably gonna call the cops.

C (69:50)

He might have like some home alone traps though.

B (69:54)

Yeah, he loves kids movies for sure. He's definitely watched it enough to get home.

C (69:58)

Trap a iron on your head. He can't have an assault rifle, but he'll have like some tax or something. What happened?

B (70:04)

I tried to rob his pedophile. Hit me with three bricks from the top of his house, right in my face also. He would have died five stories, bricks to the forehead. That one would be dead. I've seen Iraq videos where they stone. They die a lot faster than that, bro.

C (70:24)

Stoning videos are so uncomfortable.

B (70:25)

So sad, dude.

C (70:26)

They're.

B (70:27)

It's like going peing into medieval times.

C (70:29)

It just to see, like, they go. And then you see the one get them and they like, they'll be like, oh, that one got him.

B (70:35)

That's the one far. That's the one.

C (70:38)

You'll be like, how do people just die from stones? And they'll see like that. That stone.

B (70:43)

Because I saw it happening on person stone.

C (70:44)

Stop defending themselves.

B (70:46)

After that stone, you see him getting hit, like, everybody's participating.

C (70:49)

Yeah.

B (70:51)

Like there's just everybody in the. Sounds like, yeah. Why do we have so many rocks over here?

C (70:56)

It is something so bad though.

B (70:57)

No, sometimes it's just like some, like you broke the religious law. Some folks stoned their wives over there.

C (71:03)

Like, over.

B (71:05)

Like, what the. I saw a video and I'll never watch them again. That's just horrible to see, dude. Because you see the movies, you're like, damn, he went down. Like, that's exactly what happens. They cover up, they go pop. One hit them and they just keep getting pummeled as they're asleep and they die. It's horrible.

C (71:23)

And then once they get the. Once they get the defenseless one, that's when they. That's when they turn up. Because now they know they're getting all headshots.

B (71:33)

You know what I would do? I'd move. I would just move around. But I'm not gonna just stand here as you stone me to death. How about I outrun you guys?

C (71:42)

They get you like kind of like a cattle. They'll like circle you.

B (71:44)

But right now. Ready? Ready?

C (71:46)

They're gonna do it, but nobody ever throws Back.

B (71:48)

Start swinging.

C (71:50)

Way better chance to like roll, catch, catch and throw.

B (71:54)

How did I not think of that game?

C (71:55)

A dodgeball.

B (71:56)

Just. I'll take all the kids first, right? So the parents are like, oh my God, my kid. Then I'm smacking the parents. I'm gonna fight you to the dead. I'm not gonna get stoned to death.

C (72:05)

You got a better chance throwing back.

B (72:08)

Throwing back is the best thing I've ever heard in my life. That I don't know, dude. All I know is I'm not gonna just stand there. Yeah. Like you said, dodgeball. I won a few games at school. It's gonna take.

C (72:21)

We're bigger guys where we can turn our back to it.

B (72:23)

Yep.

C (72:26)

Because it's like a musket. They gotta. They can't rely.

B (72:29)

Yeah. Malnourished and hot and sweaty. Because they're all wearing hella shirts.

C (72:33)

One throw per four seconds.

B (72:34)

Yes. I'm just running straight at this, the littlest kid I see and just biting him in the face. Kill me.

C (72:40)

You grab them up by their like shield. Non winning super bowl team. Shield. Just hold them up by like a non American Adidas shirt spelled wrong or some.

B (72:58)

Pulled up by the non winning super bowl team. It's insane. Adidas with 3DS. But yeah, dude, I use this child to block. They didn't even stop. They said that kid, they threw it through him. All they know is, dude, I'm not gonna let it happen. Not gonna happen. You trying to hang me, dog? I'm gonna run. You're gonna shoot me? I'm gonna bite into your neck. I'm not running like Apocalypto. You run in the field. I ain't running. Getting shot at. That's stupid. Sorry. I just. It bugs me when I saw that video. The person getting stoned, like, get up and stand up.

C (73:32)

Yeah.

B (73:33)

You're not even tied it together. Just get up and run.

C (73:35)

You square up.

B (73:37)

Fucking move, dude. Give it the gold.

C (73:40)

Captain America when he's skinny and shit, like, all right. He's just all pissed. You ain't gonna take the fight out of me, bud.

B (73:49)

The one kid that's watched Captain America and Iran, dude. Chris Evans. I'm gonna Chris Evans this. No for real, though. Get up and run, dude. Anybody watch this? You ever get stoned to death? Just run.

C (74:02)

Yeah.

B (74:03)

Yeah. That's the most dumb, barbaric I've ever seen in my life.

A (74:06)

You're giving advice on getting stoned to death is hilarious.

C (74:08)

I think it's because they don't Grow up with like that, with like sports. They don't have like, they don't have like athletic.

B (74:14)

They don't have that quick.

C (74:15)

They don't have that, like that burst of like get a rebound. You know what I mean? They're not going to. They're not going to. Those aren't the type of people that get up for rebounds. You know what I mean?

B (74:24)

Sports do. They have.

C (74:24)

They're not. They got that one thing where they, they jump up and smack each other in the chest.

B (74:30)

That's the most board game I've ever seen. I've seen that.

C (74:33)

No, they jump up. They jump up high and just be.

B (74:35)

Like, turns out they just love this so much. They're like, yo, we should do that here. And just open chest. And they're like, also, Ric Flair is the mascot of our country. I've seen that sport. It's so stupid. And they jump and it doesn't like help the swing. No, like it's because they're.

C (74:58)

And then roll and then.

B (74:59)

That's that Bollywood. They're just going all out for. For no reason. Just to make it extra tight.

C (75:04)

They just don't got that. The ball sports skill to like catch a rock and throw it back. You know what I mean? We teach our kids young to do that in America.

B (75:11)

You ain't stone enough.

C (75:14)

Try stone, bro. Try to stone Adrian Peterson. He's not gonna try to stone Pac Man Jones. You think it's gonna happen? Jones ain't gonna just sit there and get hit with rocks.

B (75:23)

Oh, he said Pacman. I thought you said Pat. The trumpet player that just died. He's like 90. I was like, why are you showing me a little Mangioni?

A (75:31)

A little out of a reference.

B (75:33)

They said Pat Magione. What a weird ass reference, man.

C (75:36)

He might just got by the.

B (75:37)

Get hit by Rocks. He's old.

C (75:40)

But Pac Man's not gonna get stoned.

B (75:42)

Any American kid's gonna be like this other iPads, cast rocks.

C (75:46)

He's really gonna go through those Iranian people like the Black Panther. Like, he's gonna slice through them. Like, bro, he's gonna kill those people.

B (75:55)

You get Pacman, Joe 1, Wolverine, claw, claw, three, four locos. And he's going to kill the entire country. The whole military, bro. Send him in.

A (76:09)

All right.

C (76:10)

Pacman, Mador, Madoro's out sending Pacman.

B (76:16)

Are we going to war with Iran again for no dumb reason?

C (76:18)

I think they're themselves up right now.

B (76:20)

Something happened.

C (76:21)

We're just probably just going to walk in after.

B (76:23)

We just want the resources of some kind.

C (76:25)

Yeah, yeah, it's bad.

B (76:27)

You know what it's like, America. It's like letting all the little kids fight when you're in school, and then as soon as they all get put in time out, like, well, these are the toys I wanted anyway, so I'm gonna scoop up all the. That you guys are fighting over and take it home. That's America.

C (76:40)

We do do that.

B (76:41)

The thing is, we started the fight by going, hey, he called you a. Hey, he called you a. And as they fight, we go and scoop up all their. And that is our country, and I couldn't be more proud to be part of it.

C (76:52)

Our country is like, kind of like wwe, like a WWE guy. Like, he's been, like, a good guy, he's been a bad guy.

B (77:00)

He's like, yeah, he's had the hero.

C (77:02)

Yeah, he's had, like, different arcs, you know what I mean?

B (77:04)

And it's like American wrestling now.

C (77:06)

He's like, on our way. He's on his villain. It's like he's like the ref's looking the other way. He's hitting him with the title. He's covering them up like, 1, 2, 3. We got the belt.

B (77:16)

We got the belt.

C (77:16)

We got the belt. You know, it's really. Yeah, we're kind of like a character.

B (77:21)

We're in our old Vince McMahon arc right now. We're just letting an old man just run the show because look at us with a suit.

C (77:28)

We are like. Like a weird Hulk Hogan. Like, the whole maga, like, usa, we're, like, doing that. It's kind of like, you know, there's like a bad, like, super, like, pro American guy. This is how wrestling is. It's kind of all.

B (77:39)

You know what the funniest thing with the MAGA shit is? Is that they're all super pro America. And if you are pro America, you're maga. What if you just love America, right? The. I thought being American was the. You ever seen Hulk Hogan man before? He said all the. You ever seen Hulk Hogan, man? Proud to be a American. Like, I thought that was the we are America. And now it's like, you're probably American kind of. Who do you vote for, dog? I don't even know where the voting same.

C (78:04)

Proud to be American is a slur.

B (78:06)

It is now I am, though. The. If I go to France. But where are you from? I just hate that inside Northern North America. Like, no, from fucking United States, man.

C (78:14)

I'm not proud of our government, but it's like, dude, we can go To Hawaii, Alaska, California, Florida. Like, hell yeah. This is a badass country, dude.

B (78:23)

If I can go outside, a cop shoots me, he might get in trouble. Thank you, America. Because otherwise, you know what else they do? They just kick you under the fucking rug and shake a dog. What are you going to do about it? At least over here, he might go to jail. There might be a protest about it. Like, man, that's the best we got in the world right now until we start slapping pedophiles openly in public. And everybody can fix the world, Heal the world, okay?

C (78:47)

We need it.

B (78:47)

We need it, Marty. I'm gonna say that if you heard, didn't know who he was, heard him talking to this man in another aisle, wouldn't you call me? Just lay the out, too.

A (78:58)

I would like to stick these size 13s out.

B (79:00)

Get the bug out of your. Thing is, Marty wears tens. He just wears 13. He puts a tent, just rocks. 13.

A (79:09)

Just in case.

B (79:09)

I'm sorry.

C (79:10)

It's a power move where these size 60s.

B (79:12)

Yes. I don't know, man. I. I'd like to. I'd like to think that all. There's a little of this mentality in all of us because, like, if it's your kid, you're on it. But anybody else's kid, you know, you're on it. Why didn't it matter if it's somebody else's kid? That's. That's the one thing that kind of makes me feel like, yeah, my kid.

A (79:34)

Like who you random bystanders do come.

C (79:36)

Up and start, oh, yeah, like that.

B (79:38)

One skinny kid from the car. I saw that you started smacking the. Out of him, bro, that kid took.

C (79:42)

Every smack, I think. I don't know, man. I would just like people just to take it way more serious. It's, it's. It's like I. I did that. I think that I did the whole. It's like a football game. There's funny things, like I did that last time, but I think people just need to realize, like, these guys are actually, like, pretty scary. You know, they're doing things that are like, unspeakable.

B (80:03)

You know, you can't come back from the.

C (80:05)

Things can't come back from.

B (80:06)

Yeah.

C (80:06)

So, like, treat them like that, you know what I mean? And like, don't let them win. The uncomfortability. Like, if there's like an uncomfortability in the air, like, don't let them win. Like, no, that's not fair for anybody. You know what I mean? How does this guy. How does this guy get his own aisle now at the start store because, like, he molested a kid. And what I'm doing and what police aren't focused on and what I just beg police to focus on the best way. Like, if you. If you're police, if you don't like the way I do things, if you're a predator catcher, you don't like the way I do things, is just catch them before I do. You know what I mean? I like that. You know, just get them before I do.

B (80:45)

Do better.

C (80:45)

Yeah, just get them before I do. And that should motivate especially the police to, like, get to work. Like, that's all this is doing. Everything has a message behind it. But what we do and what the police lack, like, to do is just. It's prevention, man. There's no real kid. So, like, we're. This is like, really, like, other than my life. It's, like, really low risk. And it's like, a lot of times, man, we don't react until, like, there's a. There's a. There's a kid and then there's a victim, and then the family's hurt now because there's not the level of justice that they wanted. And it's just like, okay, let's just do our best to prevent that. If our justice ain't gonna. If our just, like. If our justice, like, department or our judicial department. I'm sorry. Isn't going to give, like, the handouts that we want them to, then let's just be more proactive. Like, let's start at step one. You know what I mean? So if. If our justice system is mad that. That I get police all the time that write me and be like, yeah, I wish. I wish they got, like, worse sentences. We do this, and, like, they just don't give any harsh sentences. So it's like, we don't really do it anymore. And it's like, okay, well, just, like, keep doing it. So we're preventing this stuff for. And if they give out weak sentences, they give out weak sentences, but at least there's no victims. Yeah, you know what I mean? They're giving out weak sentences to people with victims. So, like, let's at least. Let's just do something. All I'm asking for is just, like, activity. That's really it. I'm like, I think we should ask for so much more. But, like, it's 20, 26. I've been doing this a long time, and I'm still just asking for. Step one is activity.

B (82:23)

Okay? So to bring it Me back in. That's when the slab started. This is why you're doing this.

C (82:28)

This is the Gideon stuff. We keep getting sidetracked.

B (82:30)

No, it's fine. This is one big piece and that's like the end of like. Because the Gideon is not just Gideon. Jidion is the person that doesn't like what you're doing. Yes. As a whole.

C (82:38)

Yeah.

B (82:39)

So where did that come into play? Because like I said, I watched that full for like a month and a half. Ish. Watched a bunch of videos, got caught. Great.

C (82:47)

Yeah.

B (82:47)

I support it getting caught. Something's happening. As long as it's something, right?

C (82:51)

Yeah.

B (82:52)

And then I saw the. With you guys were going back and forth at it and that's when I told Rosie like is this fool talking to Josh for Cuz there's nothing to talk about.

C (83:01)

Are you talking about the most recent time? Like just recent. We've had two like bad interactions with J. Oh no, I only knew about one.

B (83:08)

This is not recent.

C (83:09)

So not the reason it's not recent. Why would they not three days ago.

B (83:16)

No, I didn't know about that.

C (83:17)

Yeah, pretty. About some pretty bad stuff.

B (83:19)

So. But, but what's there? What's his take? Because first off, the Alex Rosa guy.

C (83:23)

I love, he works with Alex Rosen.

B (83:25)

But I. When I saw his Twitter, it really made me rethink everything about this man. I don't follow him anymore because of it. I did for what, three weeks. I saw the Twitter went who the is allowing this? And then I saw a video of him saying some disgusting about a kid and I was like, that's what you're after though. Why would you even joke about it? It's nothing to joke about. And that's. I was like I'm over it. And I stopped watching. Yeah. So I stopped watching it.

C (83:50)

So that's the. That's kind of the thing. It's all the joke and why the matter. They. They mask. It's all a joke because they catch in states where like they're like good with the police and it's like, yeah, they're getting arrested. I don't. They do a lot of good work. Like I actually wrote Alex couple months ago. He like, he like posed to like sell his daughter or something like that. It was an insane video. Some guy came to like buy his 10 year old daughter and he had like a decl. Is insane. Insane.

B (84:18)

Somebody really came to buy.

C (84:19)

Yeah, yeah. It's a real video. I. He would never. I would never say these guys fake it because I know how easy it is to catch predators. These guys ain't faking videos. A lot of people accuse, like, these guys are faking videos. They're not faking videos. But it's insane. There's an eye opening. It was. I. I'm a. That does this for a living. It was eye opening for me. Like, oh, my God. And I encourage people to go. Even go watch that. I don't like the. But like, watch that video. Like, it's an eye opening video anyways. I even, like, gave him credit for that. We go back a long time because he's. He's of the side. I you for everything that I've said for the past hour of, like, accountability for the police and all this stuff. His whole thing is like, I got this guy arrested and convicted, and like, that's where his success is based at. And then it's when he don't get arrests. And they'll be like, like, a lot of times, bro, you're not gonna get an arrest. I don't know his number. You'd have to talk to his number about percentage of catches to arrest. But it's like, it's pretty hard to do that. And they'll just straight up say, like, no, we're not gonna accept your information. And you'll see that on, like, the Tommy g. Documentary. Like, Milwaukee straight up said, don't do these investigations. We're not going to accept any evidence that you have. Like, the police captain said that it's on video. You guys will see that in the Tommy g. Documentary. So, like, when you have people saying this, and I wasn't even violent. So when you have people saying this, like, they take that and they go, oh, it's because that beats him up. And. And they will use the excuse of, like, they. They think that we're going to be like, dap and do violence. And it's like, well, the DA Said the d. A. Says they're not going to take any cases because there's like, they don't like the way you guys do it. And it's like, wait, so you guys are going to turn your nose to the other way to, like, an open criminal? Like, if I'm saying, like, if a guy's over here stealing a car and I'm going like, hey, this. Stealing a car. They're like, hey, bro, you don't need to cuss. We're not about to do anything about it now. That's what it really is. It's a. It's a blatant crime. But they're. But. And this Is what they accept is like that they were DAs. Will really tell them they've told me that and they'll go like, whoa. That's what the DA Said. It's like, hold the. On the D. A. The DA Supposed to follow the law. Follow the law. If I smack a, it's like first degree assault. Okay, fine. But it's also what for them, you know what I mean? So that's, that's, that's where we go, where we get sideways is because they don't hold these people accountable. So they're listening to the day and they go like, well, they said no because they don't like the way you act. And it's like you're gonna let a. That you pay tell you no. They're not going to enforce the law because like the way you dress. Because I said this motherfucker's stealing a car instead of officer, this man is stealing a car.

B (87:14)

You do like, I get it.

C (87:15)

That's literally, that's literally. That's literally like a crux of. Of a. Of an issue. So they make jokes. The so much of this is about like, what can I do on the next video to make this video even crazier than what I did for this? What can I wear to make this so funny? What could I say to make this so funny? And it's like I feel like that's a slap in the face to everybody. I know they get the same DMS I get of people that be like, hey, this happened to me. It's like, how are you doing that in people's faces? How are you really playing like hahaha, like clown, like dressed up like in somebody's face when they were molested. Like, and be like, you're on their team. Like when you're like you're like a jester of them or something. Like a. I get that a caricature. So.

B (88:05)

And that's where you guys see different. Yeah, they, they don't like that you're getting no, you're. You're violent, but you're not getting convictions. They're like, well, we're getting conviction what matters.

C (88:13)

Yeah.

B (88:14)

Why is there any quarrels between you two? You guys should have anything. Wow. I don't know. You're not going over there. You guys. There's no way in the world.

C (88:22)

You just. It's like everybody goes, I do nothing but like, brother, I don't really like. I, I got. I'm literally. I always say, bro, I'm focused on changing the culture. Like, do I like what they do, like, no, do. I feel like they're. They, like, take the way that I don't want it to be taken. Yeah. But it's like, I can't spend my time like, oh, what did Alex do? What did so and so do? Like, I gotta combat that. It's like, I'm just. I have a vision of where I want to take this. I have a vision of an attitude that I want to create in the United States and hopefully globally. We have so many global fans. Dr. Pepper, you guys know him, he's so big in Brazil. They call him Red Shirt man because there's no Dr. Pepper in Brazil. So they call him Red Shirt man. And I swear to God, he's so famous in Brazil. If you go to his Instagram and, like, go to his followers or his comments, it's half, like, Brazilian people, they love him that. It's weird how, like, just things have taken away. Like, we have a lot of, like, fans all over the world. But, like, I'm trying to create an attitude that is just like, more of like, hey, what the are y' all doing? Police. We pay. You like it. I know. That's such, like, an old man argument. Like, no, nobody. Nobody's cool is talking about taxes. Like, that's so boring. But it's like, such an important part of Just like, do you, like, if you. If you just told people, like, you remove the word taxes, and let's be like, bro, it's like the mafia coming in and, like, we're gonna protect your business, all right?

B (89:48)

He's burning down. Yeah.

C (89:49)

200Amonth. You will protect your business, and then you have a guy coming in and stealing from your business, and, like, they're not doing anything about it. It's like, what the did I'm paying for? You know?

B (89:59)

Hey, somebody else. Oh, there's nobody else. You. Yeah, that's basically the monopoly.

C (90:03)

And if you try to defend it yourself, we're gonna kick your ass. So, like, that's like, the world that we're living in is, like, we pay you to do it, but if I do it, you're gonna be mad at me. So they. There's. They're. They're just not really, I believe, intellectually honest with it. Like, the. Their. Their supporters of. Of just like, bro. Like, it's not like they just don't get arrested when they don't get an arrest. It's just like, it's for some other reason. It's like, bro, no, it's just because, like, it sucks. That's why it doesn't get arrest because it's the world's backwards. And as long as you keep participating in the same system and they don't critique it, it's like, it's like, bro, how are you ever gonna get anything to change if you're like, like doing these guys's job for them? Like, you keep doing your job for them and. And they're not doing it anymore. And it's like, I get that you're making a career off it because the next video, like, it's better. Like, bro, technically it for me, I could keep, like, there's a world where I don't want to sit here and risk my life every day to catch predators. But, like, if the police did, like, picked up in every single town, I wouldn't be able to go catch predators there and make so many videos and have so many viral moments where people sign ups. Like, you could, like, you could literally just put people out of business by doing their job. You know what I mean?

B (91:24)

I got paid for. Yeah.

C (91:26)

And it's just like, I don't think that they want the police to do it because. Because, like, it's just like, you know what's happening. It's just like, it's just weird because I. I look at them and I'm like, we kind of do the same thing. So, like, how are you getting the same message as me and then you're acting like this. How are you having the same police interactions with me and then you're like, still diagnosing your success on. On like a detainment. I. I just. If we're living like the same, I just don't understand how we're living like, the same kind of like in the same field. And our views are so different.

A (92:02)

Completely different metrics of success in the same thing.

C (92:05)

Yeah. Of just like what we're trying to do. And I just feel like for them, it's just like, this is a good video and. And like, I need more good videos. And if the police take all my videos away, like, what am I gonna have to do? I'm gonna have to actually go be funny because, like, there's a.

A (92:22)

There's a.

C (92:22)

There's also like a version of like, all my catches are first person view. You know what I mean? I'm not, I'm not. I don't want to be the star. I want to show you, like, bro, these guys are nasty. I want to show you their pores, you know? Know what I mean? They got evil coming out their pores. Like, they have the evil, like coming inside out, you know, a lot of times. And I just, you don't get that view of people because it's so like, big production and lights and like, we got to have a camera over here and it's like, this is raw in your face.

B (92:52)

Yeah.

C (92:53)

And they're the star. I'm not the star. You know, So I just think there's such like a, A rem. Like when you start being like, you guys do the same thing. It's like kinda. And then you just get so far removed by like, actually we do this. And it's just like when you're not, when you don't have a half hour for me to be like, this is actually why we different and why we disagree. It's, it's too hard to tell you in a sentence, you know, that's why we spent like a past hour or something trying to finally break it down for things to make sense, you know? So it's just a whole different view of, like, where we're trying to take things. I, I want to take things more serious and I want to change, like, it sounds so corny. Like, I want to change the world. You know what I mean? Because who else is standing up to do it? Who else is talking about it? And then who else is going out there, hands on doing. It's so easy to be like, these pedophiles are so bad on Instagram and like, go out there and like, try to change it. I'm never gonna like people. You think you're gonna stop pedophiles? Like, no, no. Like, I, I'm all I can do, but I'm gonna try.

B (93:57)

And you're telling you, you're me telling you can.

C (93:59)

Yeah, like, if, like, if there's like zombies outside my house, I'm like, just like, the stoning thing, bro. I'm not just about to lay down and die. Yeah. Like, I'm not like, like, I don't care if there's, oh, there's millions of pedophiles. What is doing? What is stopping what? I don't know. But like, maybe it saves one kid from being molested. Like, what else am I got going on? Do you want me to go work at Burger King? Like, what else do I really got to do? And I'm really good at this. So. Yeah, I just really think, like, man, go do something. Go do something positive for the world. This is what I believe in. I, I, I go to court with myself. Like, hey, is this idea really good? I'm coming on Here on, bro, you got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Probably some more cameras. My people got cameras. I'm coming on here and if I'm like talking out my ass, I don't want to look stupid. You know what I mean? I've thought about this. Like, I, this is like what I really believe in. And I want to like leave myself up to look stupid in front of people. So, like, I really believe in this, man. I really believe my ideas could change the world. You know.

B (95:02)

I get a lot of dms about, like I said about people being pissed off. I heard a lot of DMS about people hyped. Yeah. You know what I mean? I don't think it's. I think it's an 80. It's like a 40. 40. Half mad, half stoked. 20. Like, I'm not talking about it. Yeah, like there's a lot of people like, nope. Even though I might believe, like, yes, good for you. I'm not gonna ever say yes. I like this, right? Because it's like they're still like, Philip, people like, I don't condone violence, but if you watch the ufc, sir, like you watch boxing, that's way more violent. So I think people just need to be like, it's, it's more taboo to be mad and say something about the.

C (95:37)

Violence is so theatrical.

B (95:38)

But I'm saying like the creeps, it's more taboo to like talk about it than them actually doing this. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know, like you said that. Where's the outrage? I don't know where it's at. So that's why I love watching you guys put fear to these people. Because I hope it stops at least that one.

C (95:55)

Yeah.

B (95:56)

You know, there's, I guarantee like I said earlier, they, they have stopped. There's at least some that have stopped. So you guys don't see eye to eye.

C (96:05)

That's how it works.

B (96:05)

That's how it goes down. That's why you guys don't with each other. But you do like what they're doing because they're catching people away. So it's not like it's one sided in the situation in the terms of like, that's what I want from you. I want you to do that. That's the whole point.

C (96:19)

Sure.

B (96:19)

I just do it differently.

C (96:20)

Right.

B (96:21)

That's it. So what if in five years this full start smacking people because they can stop working. They weren't fucking arresting him then. What do you say? Like, it took you a while to go this they're not getting arrested. Beat the shadow.

C (96:32)

Yeah.

B (96:32)

So what's the first? I don't think we talked about it. What was the first time? You're like, let's just start smacking the shit out of. Did you say it was like. It just happened, right?

C (96:39)

In Philadelphia. This guy was like, go ahead, smack me. I deserve it. I'm like, actually, you do. And you're giving. You're allowing me and, like, not to bring up wrestling again. It's just like, I think there's this thing, like, if stone. Stone Cold would go to jail every Monday night if. If, like, for assault. But there's a reason he don't. It's because it's agreed upon violence. You know what I mean? Like, these guys, a lot of times are agreeing to get smacked, and it's just like.

B (97:11)

It is what it is.

C (97:13)

Is what it is. I like, that's why, like, what, are you going to call the cops and then tell the cops? Well, I. He smacked me three times, and then. And then I show him the video, and it's like, are you sure you want to get smacked? They go, yeah, so, like, what. What am I doing? And then, like, they're like, oh, you're threatening them. What's my alternative? To call the cops? I'm not saying get smacked or get down and eat dog food or I'll stab you. Yeah, like, call the cops, man. This is. This could be a bad situation. Call the cops or get smacked in the face three times, and I'm gonna call the cops anyways, dumbass.

B (97:48)

I love it, dude.

C (97:49)

Yeah. Those guys don't deserve my word. Like, it doesn't like it. It's so. It's just a. A matter of just like. Like, I'm just looking at. I'm just beating the. Out the car. You know what I mean? They're still trying to figure out how to get the Predator out the car legally. Was like, this car. The legal. Like, if you. If it happens, it happens.

B (98:10)

And everybody knows that his car is up, and everybody knows.

C (98:13)

Change the culture. The culture changes before the. Before the legal part changes.

B (98:19)

Okay?

C (98:20)

So that.

B (98:20)

That, like I said, like, the. The main part for me. Yeah. Smacking these fools. That's what they deserve. It's the. It's the talking. It's the. It's the in the principal's office vibe I'm getting from this. When people. These are grown men you're talking to, and you can see the. The change. You can see the change, right? When they realize, like, my life is. Is about to change for the worse right now. It's over. It's. It's actually done. That's why I like what you guys are doing. Because no matter what, something's changing. It's not. It's not just a. Like you said, the Santa suit or people sign pretending that they work for the AT&T. Talking to people in the hand. The paperwork.

C (98:56)

Right.

B (98:56)

It. That's more theatrical. It's more like you said, that's views. That's twitch. You can. You can't live stream catching predators. That's the. The most dangerous thing I've ever heard in my life.

C (99:08)

People all the time be like, can you, bro? You should live stream. And I'm like, bro, where I'm at, Like, bro, I got this. Tried to kill me before. I had to fight for my life. Like, you think I got kids, bro? You think, like, I ain't trying to get Charlie Kirk, bro. These kids are going to see that for the rest of their lives. It's a viral clip for the rest of the time.

B (99:26)

Yes.

C (99:27)

And you think I want to be that? Like, God forbid, bro, like, if I. God forbid, I have to die number one. And then on the cherry on top is like, all the kids at the school are watching the video of me dying next to my kids. That will make me tear up like that. Like, bro, you'll never see me on a live pre catch. You know what I mean?

B (99:46)

No, it's just. It's. That's. That, like I said, that's the theatrical try to get views type of.

C (99:51)

Yeah.

B (99:51)

Like you said, this shit's real. These fools are evil. Even at the end of the day when they're making them dance or we'll call the cops. That was about to do some. Yeah, I think people forget, like, oh, it's a good video. Like, that guy's evil. Evil the most.

C (100:07)

We just use evil.

B (100:08)

Like, we've another word for it.

C (100:10)

Just watered it down. So it's like, what else do you say? Like, what else do you say? Supposed to. Excuse me. Everybody's about. It's just like, I'm trying to. Like, this guy is a monster shopping right next to you. Like, I feel like monster is a good word.

B (100:27)

Yeah, monster. I like when you.

C (100:29)

When not used in, like, wait, he's not talking about sports. Like, this guy's a monster. No, wait, hold on. What do you mean, monster?

B (100:37)

I like demon. When you say demon, it is because there's something in there for sure.

C (100:41)

Yeah. Yeah.

B (100:42)

And whether or not because sometimes I see these people's eyes I'm like, I feel bad for you a little bit. Do you know how bad this is? And they go, yeah, you do.

C (100:50)

You know, And I've been. I've been on a quest, and one of the first answers, like, any questions that you ask is, why. Why do you. Why do you do this? Still can't. I never got an answer. They'll attempt an answer, and then it just. I've seen them get a coast and then they brought it back. I've never heard of why out of any of them.

B (101:09)

Nope.

C (101:10)

It's kind of like some X File.

B (101:13)

Maybe it's because they don't know. They're just creeps, man.

C (101:18)

They literally don't know the answer. They don't know the answer.

B (101:20)

It just clicks in their brain, like, yeah, it's fine, but it's not. So don't let anybody find out. That's why I don't feel bad for the people at the end. Like, you knew you had to be careful because you would get. This is. You're a piece of.

C (101:32)

More carefully. I usually matter. I am.

B (101:35)

Yeah.

C (101:35)

Yeah, yeah.

B (101:38)

I've watched almost every single one. Like I said, I missed the pat. Like, the last. The one. The four that you didn't do any. There was no slapping. That was the one I stopped on and I had, like three left. So I'm pretty much caught up right now. You're here for. You said like a weekish. This is going to come out in like two weeks, so you'll be gone, but.

C (101:55)

Yeah, sure.

B (101:56)

Where are you going to go?

C (101:58)

We're going to be in Long Beach, Huntington's Beach. And then we'll probably try to hit la, too.

B (102:04)

How many think you're going to get?

C (102:06)

I shoot for six every city. Yeah, that's my goal. Six is always my goal. But get as many as we can for sure.

B (102:15)

Okay, sorry, sorry. You gotta catch me up. Because I don't understand. You said now you're like, all right, well, three days ago, we got into some. Is this the same? Just not seeing eye to eye. He's like, on your end?

C (102:27)

No. So he. I honestly, to be fair, I didn't kind of fully understand. My. My boy Tony over there sent me a video. I guess he, like. He re. I'll just tell you what I. What I thought at first and then what actually happened. So I seen a video. The title was Predator Shot Dead. Predator Catcher Shot Dead during. While on Catch. And then it was a screenshot of Bach. And then it was.

B (102:56)

This is recent.

C (102:57)

Oh, yeah.

B (102:58)

Did you say to the News that he wasn't on a catch though, bro.

C (103:01)

It's like he was shot over an.

B (103:03)

Altercation at a gas station at Coney.

C (103:06)

Island, which is like a restaurant. Yeah. It's just he got into an argument with a guy. They got into a fight, and then the guy's friend, who's actually a minor, 16, shot him. Yeah. Killed him. Which, it sounds. It sounds insane, but it's like that's how people die in Pontiac, unfortunately. It's a. It's a very rough town. So CNN makes a dumbass. They still haven't fixed it. This is what's insane is they still haven't fixed it. They have a report that says he got shot by on a predator catch. So you have a few. And it just all stems from that. And then. So you have like a few, like shitty people that are just making reports off of reports.

B (103:49)

Yes.

C (103:50)

And then you have literally the Oakland County Sheriff being like, no, he wasn't on a catch. You have like his widow saying, no, he wasn't on a catch. You got me like his best. I, I, like, we were really good friends. He was, I would say he's my best friend. I can't speak for him, but like, like we caught together all the time, man. And just like my kids, my kids knew. I knew his kids. And like, he wasn't doing a catch. So it's like you got officials telling you that. You got people close to you inside people telling you that. And this still made a video in the first 30 seconds of the video is like him going, oh, he tried to catch a 16 year old. No wonder this catch went. Went so bad and he died. And it's like, bro, like, this is again how I talked about the celebrity thing. It's like, I don't think people think they're real people. It's like, this was a real person. This is like, like, bro, I know his kids don't have a dad anymore. Like, this is a real person. And you're like, over here just like. And Jidion's big, bro. Like, he's. He's got like millions of followers or millions of subs on. On YouTube.

B (104:59)

Yeah.

C (105:00)

So like, bro, I used to be on YouTube. Like, I know how much money you're making on those, on those ads.

B (105:05)

Oh, dude, they're crushing for sure. And they're not.

C (105:08)

And the thumbnail was so. It was so clickbait, bro. And I watch the first 30 seconds, bro, and I literally start shaking. Cuz this is like I come from a town of 16,000 people. And we're not like, oh, we're going to shoot each other, but we fight. You know what I mean? Like, and I felt. I felt like, I hate the Internet because you can't fight people on the Internet. You know what I mean? I just had. I had this rage literally running through my fingertips. And I went on Instagram and I was like, I told him I was gonna beat him up. And I'm 30 years old. I can't be fighting grown men for stuff. So he used words that hurt my feelings, whatever. But he profited, like, off of a lie off a dead man. And he ended up calling me and apologizing on FaceTime. And he did last time about the. That he was talking. He's like, I took things too far. I want to apologize. I'm like, whatever. And he calls me again. He's like, oh, I didn't know that. Like, bro, you pinned a comment that said, like, he didn't die. He was like, that was as his way of. Like, somebody commented. I was like, he didn't actually die like that. And he pinned it.

B (106:13)

And then that's the way.

C (106:15)

That was his way.

B (106:16)

And then he kept the video up.

C (106:17)

Kept the thumbnail, kept the title. And then I'm like, bro, you're profiting off a lie about, like, one of my friends deaths. Like, and you're making it. And on top of all this, I hate the predator catchers that, like, bro, there's predator catchers that one of the five. Like, some of the five that make careers that perpetuate he died on a catch because it makes them look more courageous.

B (106:40)

Like, oh, it's dangerous.

C (106:42)

He could die doing this. Like, bro, I've been shot at and my partner got shot, and I had to like, literally take this guy's gun away from like, Die Hard and hold him up by his own gun. Like, I know that you can die by this, bro, but, like, I don't even promote that story. But it's not cool to die. It's not cool. Like, it's not cool to be in dangerous situations. And they, like, promote a lie to almost, like, boost themselves of, like, look what could happen to me.

B (107:11)

It's a YouTuber.

A (107:12)

Yeah.

C (107:13)

And it's. It's bro. And it's like, this is my friend, dude. This isn't just like, oh, I caught with that guy. Like, this guy knocked on my window because he recognized me and he got inspired by me. He didn't ask me how to catch. So many people were like, me every day. Like, hey, how do you like, bro, come on, man. You ain't stupid. Make a fake picture, post it on a dating website, bro, you ain't done. This wasn't dumb. He knocked on my window like, bro, are you the prayer catcher guy? I'm like, yeah. Next day, like, three days later, I caught two guys knocking on my window again. And it was like, I caught two guys. I'm like, he's like, you want to go catch one right now? I'm like, my man.

B (107:53)

So, like, I know you told me, but it's so awesome to hear every.

C (107:56)

Yeah, he's a legend, guys.

B (107:57)

Like, so we say I have his lunch break catching. Yeah.

C (108:02)

Legend, man. So, like, to watch these, just, like, sit here, who've never met him, never knew, and then be like, I'm a part of the country. And he's. And he's like, I didn't know, bro, that it was like that. And it's like. But you catch predators. It's like, you hit a home run, you don't know who Ken Griffey is.

B (108:22)

You know what I mean?

C (108:23)

Like, you don't got no. You don't got no respect for people that's done this before. You. You're over here making a response video over somebody that's in your field that you have no idea about, and you're making egregious claims. Egregious claims. And then somebody. Somebody said like, oh, you think he's shaking his boots? Because I was like, I'm gonna beat you up.

B (108:43)

Whatever.

C (108:44)

But it's like, bro, I would be shaking my boots, bro. Like, you're. You should get sued. You should. You should be sued. And I would be scared of getting sued talking about a dead man like that. So that's what the last thing was about. And.

B (109:02)

Yeah, I feel like those schools are, like you said, it's not really in it for the right reasons. And it'll dry up because people get bored of. Bored of things quick. And there's a reason why you guys have, like, an actual fan base, not a. Not a YouTube fan base. You know, it's a little different. YouTube fan base is good, but not for. It's the thumbnails. It's the titles. It's the. You want a car, but you didn't really want a car. Actually, I catch you. It's like, this is what me up.

C (109:33)

They'll talk to me about violence, and there's a time where things happen, like an action scene, and it'll be the thumbnail predator. I had. I had Slam Predator defend myself, and it's like, oh, so the 1% times that you've had to use violence to defend yourself, it's your ultimate tool that you use to promote all of a sudden. Right. Like, you're so against it. But now that. Now it's a promotional tool for you. Now it's your thumbnail. But when I do it, it's. This is bad. You should go to the police. But when you do it, it's thumbnail. Look how hard I slammed them. It's. It's just a weird. It's a weird. Like, it's. It's.

B (110:10)

It's a weird lane. It is over into theatrics a little bit.

C (110:14)

Yeah. And like, everything would. You know what I mean?

B (110:17)

Yeah. Damn it. Okay, real quick, before I forget. Your website, everything. And all that's going to get done by Marty.

C (110:27)

Yes.

B (110:27)

So what can people expect on your website that's being built?

C (110:31)

Dude, Marty, you can probably speak better for that, man. You're like the ace at this, the.

A (110:35)

Very beginning stages of this. But what we really want is for it to kind of serve as a platform for everybody that wants to get involved in this whole community. Have it to be a place where you can not only watch the videos, you can get free content, you can be a part. Have the forum, like, on our site, have the community. Have it actually be a meaningful place for people to, you know, know, discuss these horrible topics.

C (110:59)

Yeah. And we've been working with, like, locals and things like that for over the years, like getting kicked off a platform, jumping ship to another platform and just like, people are, like, hanging on, but, like Facebook and Instagram by threads a lot of times. So it's going to be nice to be able to have, like, a real secure home that nobody could take away from us. And that's going to give me, like, a lot of comfort when I lay down. Yeah.

B (111:23)

To know it's not. It'll be there tomorrow. It'll still be there.

C (111:26)

Yeah.

B (111:27)

I got.

C (111:27)

I literally have PTSD about my Instagram. If, like, my wi Fi don't load.

B (111:31)

Up and it's like, it's like load activity every time.

C (111:35)

Stomach sinks every time. Floor, bro.

B (111:38)

I used to wake up and check my YouTube and Instagram every morning. Go, please be there and open it every morning.

A (111:42)

Oh, my God.

C (111:43)

So you would know, like, that's how it goes, man. You build something up. No, they'll take it away in a heartbeat. So it's a. It's crazy. And to get to give them more of a streamline thing, like locals. Locals is a Rough platform. I love them to death, but their software is really rough. So to get like a professional level website and just a home for all the videos and the podcasts and just so many behind the scenes stuff. It's. It's going to be really fun to just have, have fun with it. You know, for lack of better words.

B (112:16)

Be able to do your own.

C (112:17)

Right stuff. I'll do it. Like, I don't want to be like a, like a video game guy over promises, but we have a lot of cool stuff planned for it and.

B (112:28)

Excuse me everybody. Yeah, when does that come out? What days? Because I know you've.

C (112:33)

We. We've been having a rough.

B (112:34)

Yeah, so you haven't done a couple.

C (112:36)

We've been having a rough schedule. Yeah, we, we've. We have like a studio and just with traveling and the holidays, it really it up and yeah. Where we're at. We're actually going to be moving soon and it was just really hard to get like guests like continued and yeah.

B (112:52)

Honestly, even without guests. My suggestion, even without guests. If you have to do it remote, run it remote.

C (112:57)

Yeah.

B (112:57)

If you're in a rental car in Florida because you're doing catches like guys, I got about 15 minutes before this catch a couple hop up. Way more invested than like, oh, we have to do it at the studio. It has to be here every three weeks. We're gonna get it.

C (113:09)

Yeah, that. Run it. Yeah.

B (113:12)

We do an episode every Friday on our own site and it's basically ridiculousness meets rotten dot com.

C (113:17)

Right.

B (113:17)

And we watch crazy and get high as show pounds. And because it's our site, I can show you what I'm smoking right now. And it's, it's awesome. And everybody's like, I want to watch it right here. I'll give you $8 or I'll give you whatever money. Watch four episodes a month. Like I feel like that is. You control your whole. It's your network. Yeah, it's your network now. And all these social medias are just promotions to go. Go watch our on our hub.

C (113:41)

And like I always say, man, like, especially for what I do. Like my kids don't get Christmas presents if it's not for my supporters. You know what I mean? Like, I'm able to do what I'm able to do because of them. And every single catch that I have is like their catch too. And I think that's like really cool. You know what I mean? Like to know like, like you're directly like contributing. It's like when you're like Going to work in the 1940s. Like, you knew what you were building in that factory was going to be used in World War II. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it's just like. It's just like a team spirit of like. I know and. And I. And I show. Like, I'm not the police. Like, I'm showing work. I gave you a new video every single Saturday. So it's a. It's. I'm always working, always catching bad guys. And it's always only possible because. Because of the like, you guys. So I appreciate everybody that support.

B (114:33)

It's. It's locals. But what. How can they get.

C (114:36)

Get subscription? So locals right now DAP2K.

B (114:39)

DAP2K.

C (114:40)

It's $12 a month. Breaks down to like $3 a week. And it's like, dude, you know, it's.

B (114:45)

Not even the money. It's like, you know what you're contributing to.

C (114:47)

Exactly.

B (114:48)

Yeah. That's why I think about it every time I get Bill$12 from long ago. Good, fine, appreciate. That's what it's. No, I've never been like, man, for.

C (114:59)

Your gift this year.

B (115:00)

Oh, yeah. Because I do Jay's and yours. It's like I. Never mind. Like, yeah, I know what that's going toward. It's awesome. Hey, man, all you gang members out there spending money, talking, put your money towards something good. Buy for your whole neighborhood. Buy a locals for everyone. Could you imagine a watch party of 12 gang bangers? Like, look at this. Full beat the out of pedophiles. I love it. Because why wouldn't you love.

A (115:27)

You would think that's.

B (115:27)

Why wouldn't you love it? You watched fights on Twitter right now of people fighting at bars. I don't know. I see. Look what happens, man. I got them all hyped up and me. Rosie haven't watched it over a week. Dude, we've been like, we've been hella busy. And I went to sleep early fight last night and I got a couple left. I just get. I just get juiced.

C (115:47)

I don't know.

B (115:47)

I'm not even me. I'm like all tired and high all the time. Like, what the. Beating up pedophiles. Let's go. I remember the first time I showed you, like, we got to get these guys on the show. That was like three, two, two and a half. Three years ago when I showed him, like, oh, I've seen them. Like, yeah, you've seen them. Yeah. I don't know. Everybody in my family knows, like, oh, he's Watching pedophile. Pedophiles. I don't know. You put a whole fan base like go watch it. You don't like it, why don't you like it? I'll trust you. I'll trust you. I swear to God, I don't trust you. If it's not the violence, I don't trust you because. Why don't you like what you're doing?

C (116:25)

I don't know, man.

B (116:26)

We should have a little eye scanner. Like demolition. I watch this 10 second clip. Did you smile? He's smiling. Come in. Yeah, the dude. I don't give a. It's a good test, man. Like in the Bronx tale. Did you lean over and unlock your lock?

A (116:39)

Exactly.

B (116:40)

Did he smile when check. Josh knocked his pedophile asleep?

A (116:43)

Did he go ape?

C (116:45)

Yeah.

B (116:46)

When he threw the little Mexican. When that doctor threw the little Mexican over the bushes and he went up.

A (116:50)

My favorite. The dude that. That hit the like support beam on the porch and then the porch came down. That was my personal favorite.

C (116:58)

It's crazy stuff.

B (116:59)

Last time you were here, it was right when I said, who's your friend in the Dr. Pepper shirt? And you go, you're going to be seeing a lot more of him.

C (117:06)

Yeah.

B (117:06)

And that's when you guys started busting him out. He's an attack dog. He in the back of that one you're talking about. We guys talking to the flat dude, the purple shirt, real fat black guy. You can see him in the back.

C (117:17)

He's a psycho. You don't got no phone on him or nothing. He's got one job.

B (117:20)

He's just there to Goldberg people. He's just sitting there waiting to bite someone in the neck. Dude.

C (117:26)

Yeah.

B (117:26)

Because there's a couple, like right after you guys left. Next time there was no more slaps for like a month. It was closed fist, near knockouts. Like the other. The white dude in the purple. I think he's a purple shirt. Where you slam his face in the door as he's unlocking his car. Still one of the best things I've ever seen. I haven't seen it on Twitter. And you started going real hard. Appreciate it.

C (117:49)

That's all.

A (117:49)

That's it.

B (117:50)

From an actual fan that watches constantly. Thanks, man.

A (117:53)

I do remember that. Going like, damn. They kind of ramped it up a little bit. There was that stretch.

B (117:57)

Yeah. There's. There was no slabs. Didn't even get to the talking. He just got. Just started getting lit the up. By the time he left the store, he was already purple and. And puffy. I almost felt bad. Like, yo, you're up already.

C (118:14)

Anything. Like imagine like you like step on somebody's shoes and you get Dr. Peppered, man, I would hate that. I would suck for that guy to come in after you, man. I really would.

B (118:25)

So you guys have fully unleashed him and I really like it. Like you said, he's built his own fan base. Yeah, cuz he's like. He's like the silent. The silent shark in the distance that.

C (118:33)

You loves him, cuz. It's like he don't even speak. So it's like they don't need to understand him. They understand violence. You know what I mean?

B (118:41)

I don't know what these guys are saying exactly.

C (118:46)

What these guys are saying. That guy. They know that language. Oh my God.

B (118:51)

Yeah, I just.

A (118:53)

It would be funny if we dubbed you an AI and espanol.

C (118:57)

Lo siento, everybody.

B (119:02)

You can excuse me everybody's shirts. I would rock the out. I would rock it on about a dad hat. Excuse me, everybody. Or not even. Sure. A hat. I'll with a hat. Give me some brass knuckles. Excuse me.

C (119:13)

Everybody's gonna hook everybody up.

A (119:16)

Type of.

B (119:16)

Oh, yeah, yeah. You guys gotta do something.

C (119:18)

Everybody the up man.

B (119:20)

Yeah, you're gonna make some cool. Just gotta make it make sense. I need some boxing gloves. I need brass knuckles. So when I smack like Rick James did to Dave Chappelle or to. What was it, Charlie Murphy, it said unity in his head for at least a week. That's what I want.

A (119:35)

What about a megaphone?

C (119:38)

Megaphone.

B (119:39)

I have a megaphone. Just. Oh, you know, I got it. My wife got it for me before we got married so I could scream at cyclists to get the out of my way.

C (119:47)

For real? Yes.

B (119:48)

Because I was in Santa Cruz and they take up the road and I'd stick my head out the window, get the out the street. And they'd all try to fight me. And I drive off because I'm in a car.

C (119:58)

And they're fit.

B (119:59)

Yeah, they're fit.

C (120:00)

Yeah, they're fit. They got a gas tank with it.

B (120:04)

And I just drive the off. Who's winning in this situation?

C (120:08)

Dude, those guys are ready.

B (120:10)

But I have it just so I can scream. Get. And I used it. They did the Tour de France in my little last town once. Really just brought it through. Shut the whole town down. I was a pizza delivery driver. No, no, before I was pizza liv driver. They shut the whole town down. They rode through the street. Cyclists. Like four years later, everyone thinks they're a cyclist.

C (120:30)

Wearing the bands, doing everything and there's.

B (120:32)

One road to the cuts to the country where a lot of people order pizza for my. And I can't go around them cuz they eat the middle of the road and they eat in our restaurant. So I'm sitting there just. I hate. I'm saying is I hate cyclists. So yeah megaphones. But little ones, little guys.

A (120:50)

I like it.

B (120:50)

Little, little guys. Dude. Oh my God. Excuse me every. I'm so happy for you guys. This is going to be so fun. And one instead of the. It just has your voice. Excuse me everybody. Oh man. You guys are doing a cultural thing. You know how much, how many times I've seen like 13 year old kids with their friends. This guy's here to meet a 14 year old boy. I can't get enough of it makes me laugh every time.

C (121:14)

It's amazing.

B (121:15)

It's a cultural change. It's at the point where it's like. Yeah I've. I've heard that before. And if you hear that in the.

C (121:21)

Store, good for you people. People come running nowadays. They, they know now could you imagine.

B (121:28)

You hear that the store how much you'd light up.

A (121:30)

Oh I never considered that I'd hit.

C (121:31)

Every as fast as I can gather around now.

B (121:35)

Yeah. When you were in Downey they had around that little Asian kid. They gather at him quick. I love when you. I love it, dude. I was bored and he laughed. Oh I remember that so fast in his mouth inside the Ralphs.

A (121:49)

Oh yeah. And then the Ralph's employees are coming around and oh yeah.

C (121:52)

The employees being.

B (121:53)

Sorry dude. We'll talk about. I can just do this for. For everybody Remember that one time I could do it for so long.

A (122:00)

I'm sorry.

B (122:00)

Sorry. Okay. On the horizon new website. Excuse me everybody. Even if you do more remote. More man. Even if it's 15 minutes. Bill Bur should do the what Monday morning podcast.

C (122:12)

Yeah, exactly by himself and just scream.

B (122:14)

About what he wants and has to talk about.

C (122:17)

Yeah.

B (122:17)

And we all love it. People love you guys. And I think that alone it wouldn't have to be a huge production. That's cool. But run it wherever you're at, dude. Hotel run. Headphones, mic. Done. Little to go. Pack, be done with it. Upload that. I'll watch the out of it.

C (122:34)

My man. Now you showed up when we rebooted the show. You showed up in the live chat. I appreciate it.

B (122:37)

Yes. I popped on and it was live. Like there's no way. Yeah, it was great, dude.

C (122:42)

Bro, you guys never miss like a happy birthday a A Christmas Man, I always appreciate all the love, man.

B (122:48)

Appreciate you.

A (122:49)

Yeah.

B (122:49)

Appreciate you guys. Okay, so besides that, is there anything new on the. On the horizons?

C (122:55)

We got. We got a Tommy G documentary coming like a full.

B (122:58)

And he's doing it. Yeah, it's great.

C (123:00)

It's in Milwaukee.

B (123:02)

Like, it's really good for an hour n minute Tommy G video. That fool makes 49 minute videos. Never fails. Every time I see him, like, all right, I got an hour.

C (123:12)

If you guys are. If you guys comment the commenters out there. Tommy G reads all the comments. Yeah, yeah, he. I was with him. That is reading all the comments. So he'll read your man. Get out. And he's a great guy. I can't speak enough good things about him. He's great.

B (123:25)

He's one of the one dude we had over here. What are the wholesome. Wholesome man.

C (123:30)

Great, man.

B (123:31)

Like, he's like a 1950s upstanding father. Yeah, he's great. I'm rebuilding a house and exercising. Like, wow. Holy. He's great. This guy's great, dude. I'm teaching my son how to walk.

C (123:44)

Yeah, he's a great morning.

B (123:45)

Walks with my. With my dog, my pup.

C (123:47)

I think that's like.

B (123:48)

He's great, dude.

C (123:49)

Yeah, he's like Captain Planet.

B (123:51)

He's like. But in like a madman era. Like, yeah, go do your advertising.

A (123:57)

And he'll choke you. The out, though.

B (123:58)

At the end of the day, he's like, do you want me to try and choke you? I will. Walls of Jericho. You also.

C (124:03)

He's sick, man. Other than that, we got just new catches every single Saturday. And yeah, it's about it, man. Just keep on changing the culture. I'm keep talking my. And see where it takes us.

A (124:18)

Dapping up. Yeah, I like it. It's a verb.

B (124:22)

Yeah, got dapped. That got dapped by damn. How long he get? Like three years.

C (124:26)

Dude, Da up.

B (124:27)

F got beat up in jail. He got dapped in jail. Oh, F got dapped in jail. What happened? Got killed. Cultural for everyone out there. If you like my channel and you like Innocence of Children, go check out DAP on Locals 2k. DAP 2k.

C (124:44)

Yeah.

B (124:46)

You got hours and hours of fun ahead of you. I promise. I'm almost to the end. I've not been disappointed yet. I'm so excited. I watch them again. Go watch them. Go clean. And if it's in your state, that's what I want. Like, that's my state little map.

C (125:03)

It's gonna be sick.

B (125:05)

The map of the catches.

A (125:06)

Yeah, that's my Whole goal, man. People are gonna want to hover. Yeah. People are going to want to binge.

C (125:10)

Their cities, click the video, and it.

B (125:15)

Takes you to the video on the site.

C (125:16)

Yeah, that's the goal.

B (125:19)

Can you do the Central Valley of California next time?

C (125:22)

Yeah.

B (125:23)

A lot cheaper hotels if you guys travel a lot. Yeah, I mean, just go up there. There's not that good food, but, like, there's a lot of creeps, man.

C (125:30)

Yeah.

B (125:30)

If you want to do a Merced, California, feel free. I'll text like three fools by eight red. Careful, creep.

C (125:38)

Not for real.

B (125:39)

I don't associate with those, but I know some creeps. And it's so weird as the older you get. Like, you said you caught your friend.

A (125:44)

Yeah.

B (125:46)

Yeah. So I know one creep and I can't stand it. That, like, it makes me mad every day. I'm like, you're a lot like. You just live. That's crazy. You're a creep. It's weird when it's in person, not like on the Internet. It's weird. Like, a lot of these people that are talking like, violence is wrong. Never been in your life, then nothing's ever happened to your life or somebody, you know? Because you wouldn't be saying that.

C (126:08)

Right?

B (126:08)

So.

C (126:08)

Yeah.

B (126:08)

So for everyone out there, think twice. Maybe something just. Maybe you just lived a great life so far, you know, nothing bad. And that's awesome for you and I hope it continues. Dude, that'd be sick. But if not. And you're down. Excuse me, everybody. If you ever hear it, bust that phone out. DM to me. I would love other angles. That'd be so sick. 360 Cam on your back.

C (126:29)

Come on.

B (126:30)

Oh, this feels like a. Like a. A dirt bike ride.

C (126:33)

I would love that.

B (126:34)

Dude, I just think it's funny, cuz every time. I know, like, for the first two and a half minutes, I'm going to see Josh's pants and shoes, the bottom of the car, and then. All right, let's go. I know as soon as I see fluorescent lights in the store, like, it's. It's coming, it's here. I don't know, dude. It makes me so happy every time. Thank you for doing what you do.

C (126:53)

Thank you, man. Appreciate you. Why? Are you.

B (126:55)

Anything else?

A (126:56)

I appreciate you, man. This whole mission, I'm happy and proud to be a part of it.

C (127:00)

Thank you, man.

A (127:01)

I'm just looking forward to actually, like, this is the one project that I took on that I'm like, this is actually gonna help earth a little bit. Let's like, actually make Earth a little bit of a better place and, like, do something meaningful.

C (127:10)

Well, thanks believing in me, guys. Show Monday on Instagram, that's where, like, all the promotion. That's all. Yeah. And Twitter, that's where all the exposure is. Because exposure is always free. There's not one catch that I got, like, where it was like, oh, I can't post this guy. There's 45 seconds at least of every single catch out there. Because they're pedophiles, and if I'm lying, sue me.

B (127:32)

Nobody ever will, literally. All right, thank you for being here. This has been fun.

C (127:38)

Thank you, man.

B (127:38)

Appreciate you.

C (127:39)

My guy.

B (127:40)

Thank you. Thanks for coming out here again. This is round two. I'm excited. All right, guys. This has been Joshua Mundy. Dad's against predators. Clean up the streets. Thank you, guys for being here. If you support me and you like this, go check out the locals. It's awesome. Sign up. It's less than a. It's like a 10 sack. Don't be a stingy dude. Do you like 10 sacks? Or watching pedophiles get what they deserve.

C (128:02)

Boom.

B (128:02)

There we go.

C (128:03)

There.

B (128:04)

Now it's like, ah, yeah, you're right. Exactly. Thank you guys for being here. It's been the dope as usual podcast. Have a dope ass day.

A (128:16)

Perfect.