Killa Season w/ Adamn Killa!

Summary

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DOPE AS USUAL Podcast: "Killa Season" w/ Adamn Killa!

Hosts: Thomas “Dope as Yola” Araujo & Marty O'Neill
Guest: Adamn Killa (Adamn Kelly), with Forever Band
Date: November 18, 2025

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Overview

This high-energy episode features Adamn Killa, the viral Chicago rapper and online sensation, breaking down his astronomical rise to internet stardom, his unconventional approach to music and fan engagement, the chaos and joy of in-person meetups, the importance of staying independent, and his surprising background as a top-tier athlete. Alongside him is Forever Band, the right-hand man, adding perspective from years around hip-hop legends. The conversation is fast-paced and hilarious, with a focus on hustle, authenticity, and the power of connecting with fans—plus a healthy dose of baseball nostalgia.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Adamn Killa’s Meteoric Rise on the Internet

• Ultra-viral Status: Adamn Killa shares that he's hitting around 530 million views a month, and has 950 million unique viewers on TikTok.

  "So not views but like individual people have watching my TikTok. So like almost a billion people," (02:44–03:05)

• Mainstream Attention: He’s been covered by news outlets from TMZ to Fox to the India Times, sparked by the “Arrest Me Daddy” viral moment.

• Fan Engagement: Adamn Killa is relentless about directly responding to fans:

  "I've probably done almost 300,000 comments so far. ...I do meet ups all the time. Take pictures, autographs, and all that stuff is completely free." (05:00–05:30)

2. The Live Nation Incident & DIY Tours

• Show Canceled: Live Nation canceled his show last minute due to underestimating his fanbase's turnout—despite Adamn’s warnings.

  "Capacity is only 350. ...But my fanbase, they pull up the day of and sell it out." (07:03–07:36)

• Vindication: He proved them wrong by drawing thousands to the venue anyway, even in the rain.

  "I just did one right now before I came here. ...It was like a couple thousand people." (05:58)

• Commitment: He self-funds travel and accommodation:

  "I'm independent, so I spend my own money on flights. I bought my own hotel knowing I wasn't gonna make money from the show because it got canceled." (10:09)

3. The Reality & Risks of Fan Frenzy

• In-Person Mayhem: Adamn and Forever Band describe near-mob scenes, escape plans with staged getaway cars, and a crowd that’s "Michael Jackson" level intense.

  "Once we ran, like a thousand people just ran after us." (17:43)

• Chaos, Joy, and Gratitude:

  "You'll see 3,000 people and approach him, and he just has this big smile on his face, and he, like, you know, like, yeah, come get me." – Forever Band (22:13)

• Positive Vibes & No Security: The fan connection is authentic, and Adamn believes his crowd would protect him from harm.

  "Honestly, I think my fans will protect me, to be honest." (25:09)

4. Staying Sober and Independent

• Sober Lifestyle: Adamn doesn’t smoke or drink and sticks to a strict, content-focused routine:

  "Wake up 5, 6am, go outside, make videos, post 20 times a day." (01:45)

• Turning Down Major Deals:

  “The biggest deal I turned down was worth like six point something million... And I had zero dollars in my bank account." (12:43, 13:03)

• Motivation: Prefers creative freedom and believes he can earn more on his own long-term.

  "Twelve years of my life is worth way more than 6 million." (13:28)

5. Chicago to Europe – Early Career and Overseas Fans

• European Fan Reactions: As a teenager with Young Lean, Adamn experienced Beatlemania-energy crowds in Europe.

  "How people treat me now. They were treating me like that in Europe back then." (14:46)

• Running from Fans: The only way to leave a show safely is sprinting away and staging cars like a heist.

  "We staged these cars. So we had like three cars staged in different places. So you can get away." – Forever Band (17:12)

6. Meetups, Virality, & Direct-to-Fan Movement

• Accessibility: Adamn’s meetups are always free, in contrast to expensive or exclusive artist events, creating deeper bonds with his audience.

• Posting Strategy: Consistently posts 20 times a day, sometimes riffing on real-life experiences for content (e.g., "Can I wash the dishes instead?" videos).

  "I just post anything. Like, that's how it starts... I started posting these new videos where I'm like, can I wash the dishes instead? Like when I'm at a restaurant." (58:29)

7. Baseball Past, What-Ifs, and Life Lessons

• Athletic Background: Adamn was a D1-level baseball player with professional workouts and a .375 college batting average.

• Sacrifice: Left behind a promising baseball future for music—though he often dreams about playing in the MLB.

• Real Talk: <u>He demystifies minor league struggles—most players barely get paid.</u>

  “You see like MLB players that’s in the minors, they’re like working at grocery stores... So they get like a $10,000 signing bonus and make like 500 a month." (33:54)

• On Education: College wasn’t a fit—he found English pointless compared to his passions.

  "I'm like smart, but... books and like stuff I didn't like doing—I can't do it. ...I failed English because I didn't buy the book." (35:06–35:41)

• Baseball Movie Nostalgia: Deep dive into baseball classics—Sandlot, Mr. 3000, Hardball, and more.

  "Sandlot... Mr. 3000... Hardball... League of Their Own..." (37:05–38:16)

8. The Mandela Effect & Conspiracy Banter

• Pop Culture: Entertaining banter about the Mandela Effect, Shazam/Kazaam, the Berenstein Bears, and reality glitches.

  "That Mandela fix shit’s real." (50:15)

• Philosophy:

  "I feel like I'm in my best timeline." (51:42)
  "For me personally—yeah, that's what I'm saying. I feel like my life is great." (52:19)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On turning down a $6 million deal:

  “I turned down six point something million. And I had zero dollars in my bank account. My dad was like, you're stupid." (13:03–13:06)

• On fan meetups:

  "When I first started a year ago, three people came... Now it’s a couple thousand." (05:46)

• On controlling your destiny:

  "I just like being able to do what I want." (12:43)

• On positivity:

  “We positive. ...Y’all changing my life. I appreciate y’all for this, and I’m gonna rock with y’all.” —Forever Band (21:41)

• On fan chaos:

  "That's Michael Jackson shit." —Marty (19:16)

• On his motivation:

  “If they're offering me 6 million, I’m worth 12.” (13:12)

• On the future:

  "For 2026, I want a platinum song. I want a Billboard Hot 100 number one." (52:19)

• On hustle advice:

  "Post 20 times a day. ...Everything you want to do is a lot of work, to be honest." (58:11–58:19)

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Highlighted Timestamps

• 00:44–03:31: Adamn explains the scale of his digital stardom and viral moments
• 05:46–08:50: The Live Nation cancellation, the turnout, and Adamn’s commitment to fans
• 16:47–22:13: Forever Band narrates the “escape” from fans and the unique intensity of Adamn’s crowds
• 24:45–25:21: On safety, crowds, and mutual respect with fans
• 29:25–33:54: Adamn’s baseball past, realities of pro sports, and why he left for music
• 37:05–38:46: Baseball movie nostalgia
• 50:02–52:19: The Mandela Effect and “being in your best timeline”
• 52:19–53:15: Goals for 2026 and pride in friends’ achievements
• 58:11–59:44: Posting strategy and the creative process for viral videos

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Tone

The conversation is relentlessly upbeat, honest, and unfiltered, with tons of anecdotes, jokes, and mutual respect. There’s a sense of camaraderie, underdog pride, and a hustler’s mentality throughout. Adamn’s transparency about his journey, business decisions, past struggles, and future ambitions offers encouragement for creatives and fans alike.

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Takeaways

• Adamn Killa’s approach is redefining what it means to build a global fanbase—direct, free, and authentic engagement beats traditional music industry machinery.
• Staying independent allows for creative and personal freedom—even when the big labels come knocking.
• Sincerity, hustle, and being accessible have built Adamn a following that transcends the internet and translates to sold-out shows and euphoric in-person experiences.
• Real connection with fans has led to a level of mania usually reserved for pop superstars—and Adamn handles it with humility and joy.
• The work ethic—getting up at 5am, posting 20 times a day—is as important as any music or athletic talent.
• Always trust your gut, stick to your principles, and never be afraid to run your own race—even if it means running for real.

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Transcript

[A]

Oh, you can. Perfect.

[B]

Perfect, Perfect, Perfect.

[A]

What's up everybody? Welcome back to the Dope as usual podcast. I am Thomas Dopas, yolo, whatever you want to call me. This is my co host, Marty o'. Neal.

[B]

What's up guys? What's up?

[A]

New setup. You guys ready for this? As you can see from the title, I know you're already hype. Let's get straight into it. Let's give a warm welcome to Adam, a damn killer. How do you, how do you say it, man? Cuz I know it's a damn. But I, I talked to one homie that he's like, oh, I did a song with him a long time ago. I'm like, oh, a damn. I'm like, you're saying it wrong, bro. Yeah, I was like, nah, I don't think that's how you say that.

[B]

No, it's a damn killer. But my real name is Adam, so people started calling me Adam, especially after all this news stuff, so they've been calling me by my real name. There'll be like a damn killer AKA or like. But his real is Adam Kelly, so whatever you want to call me, it doesn't bother me.

[A]

Okay. And right now you, you're in for a day trip.

[B]

Yeah, I'm here for a day. I literally flew. I got here last night at midnight and then I leave tonight at 1:00am.

[A]

24 hours back, so.

[B]

24 hours? Yeah, I literally flew just to do that meetup. Yeah.

[A]

So what's up, dude? All right, look it. Yeah, I'm very ignorant to the Internet until I saw the picture, like, oh, I, I know who you are. Cuz you don't look the same as when I remember you for like 20, what, 19, 18 maybe.

[B]

Oh yeah, I'll be changing cuz I'm.

[A]

I'm all bad with this. Staying up with current. Cuz.

[B]

Yeah, I'm high.

[A]

I'm doing hella. I don't really remember everything. And you don't smoke, right?

[B]

No, I don't drink smoke. I'm completely sober.

[A]

How is that?

[B]

It's great.

[A]

What do you do when you wake up like, yo, I'm going to have fun today, cuz I would love to know.

[B]

I wake up 5, 6am, go outside, make videos, post 20 times a day.

[A]

Oh, you have a real. That's a job.

[B]

Yeah, I have like a job.

[A]

That's a job.

[B]

Yeah, I take it like a job.

[A]

Do you. Do nobody smoke? Nobody chill?

[B]

No, I don't smoke.

[A]

Then I'll just wait. So I'll hot box everybody in this room. Hella joints. Like because I wasn't sure my is this full smoke.

[B]

I'm like, oh yeah, just in case. But I appreciate it.

[A]

Yeah, we'll just, I'll wait till after.

[B]

Yeah. But no, I don't smoke. How long you've been on that type of schedule? This, this 5am schedule? I started this 5am schedule maybe like a week or two ago. But before that I was still leaving it by like 9, 10am so.

[A]

Okay. For everyone out there, like I see the Instagram or not even Instagram, the Internet viral thing going on right now. I saw it the other day. I'm like, why are the fools chasing this dude? What is happening? It's like some K pop, pop star going on.

[B]

Yeah, it is.

[A]

Explain like what the is happening.

[B]

So right now currently I'm getting like 530 million views a month. So I'm like in terms of views, I'm probably like at least top three people on the Internet in terms of views. Like I had meetings with Tick Tock. So like on my Tick tock, I have 950 million individual viewers.

[A]

Jesus Christ.

[B]

So not views but like individual people have watching my Tick Tock. So like almost a billion people, like for sure a billion people have seen my face. So that's like one.

[A]

All of the world has seen my face.

[B]

Yeah. And speaking of India, I'm happy you bring that up. I was in the India Times today.

[A]

For what?

[B]

For the Arrest Me Daddy when I got arrested. Have you seen that? It's been like all over.

[A]

Yeah, I've seen it. That's why I'm like what the is happening?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So why would they do an article on that?

[B]

I have no idea.

[A]

But you know what's going on in America? This.

[B]

Yeah, I guess I'm the biggest thing out right now. My dad sent me that. It was like, you're famous in India now.

[A]

I was like, anybody walked up to you yet from that? Any Indian fools?

[B]

Yeah, probably. I get approached by everybody.

[A]

Yeah, I could see it.

[B]

But like I've been on TMZ this week, Billboard, NBC, Fox. I had a sit down interview with Fox. Just every news outlet. Yeah, I'm taking that man.

[A]

That's a change.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Because I had a Chicago Sun Times article. So we was already doing that. They reached out to interview me and, and then it got bigger when because they wanted to interview me making my own videos. They were like, we're going to follow you around while you make your videos. And then I did the Arrest Me Daddy to the first Cops I seen, they was doing a stop and they arrested me. So that made the story even bigger. And I was like, just so you know, the Sun Times is right here, so you're going to be in the paper tomorrow. So they put me like on the front page of the paper and then they had like a whole page dedicated to me getting arrested. And then like after the suntimes put that out in the newspaper, just every news outlet like picked it up.

[A]

What a weird time we're in.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You get arrested while you're doing. Yeah, the joke of it. Yeah. And he arrests you.

[B]

And then the news stuff is crazy. It's a different fan base. So it's like my uncles and aunts and like see it, they're like all texting me. They're like, why are you on the news? Like they're like sitting at home watching the news and then seeing me on the news.

[A]

Do you ever notice like you're going through because we saw something about you? Respond All Comments DMS yeah, I've probably done almost 300, 000 comments so far. And on YouTube, just since I've been on YouTube like clocked in, we see it, that matters.

[B]

Also.

[A]

Every single person's like, yo, you know, I met. They were cool. It made my day. That's why we do meetups are free, everything. There's hella people like you do fire, but you know, you sit there and you're like, I'll talk to you. I want to say everything. What do you want to talk about? All right, we're done. Like not like get away, it's like more of, you know, what do you want to say? Like, thank you for watching my shit.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I do meet ups all the time. Take pictures, autographs and all that stuff is completely free. And then the only thing that costs money are my shows. I do shows and then like merch and stuff. But my meetups are completely free.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Like there's not a lot of Internet people that take the time to do it.

[B]

Yeah. And then when I've been doing it, when I first started a year ago, the first one I had three people came to it. And now it's like when I have them, it's a couple thousand people. I just did one right now before I came here.

[A]

Oh, I saw, I saw the footage.

[B]

It was like a couple thousand people. So. So that was pretty crazy. So Live Nation, they're pretty dumb for canceling that show.

[A]

Yeah. So what's going on with Live Nation? I just. I just heard the chanting of Live Nation.

[B]

Yeah, they started. Yeah, they started that, but, yeah.

[A]

They canceled your show?

[B]

Yeah, they canceled my show. The show was supposed to be today at that venue where I had all the people come to.

[A]

Oh, you didn't do it?

[B]

No, I. I just did a little free performance outside, but then it was like, police helicopters and police coming, so I just left. Yeah, I had to go. So I only got to do one song, but my show was supposed to be at that venue today, and they canceled it, like, three days ago. And I was so mad when they. Because they just texted me and was like, yeah, we're canceling the show. And I'm like, like, what's wrong with y'? All? And then. So clearly they didn't make the right decision because the capacity of that venue is only 350 people. Oh, so 10 times over the amount of people that was out there. Like, I was telling them, my crowd is. They. They pull up to the address. Like, they don't buy tickets online.

[A]

You drop an address.

[B]

Yeah, I put the address.

[A]

I saw that. You're the only person on the earth. Like, drop the address on my story.

[B]

Yeah, that's how I do it. I post the address, and they pull up like, I just had a show in D.C. sell out. I posted the address. It was 800 capacity sold out same day. And then it was an additional 3, 400 people that couldn't get in because it reached capacity. So I'm telling Live Nation this. I'm like, so, okay, I understand it only sold 70 tickets online right now, but my fan base, they pull up the day of and sell it out. I'm like, it's going to be more people there than the venue.

[A]

That's where they canceled it.

[B]

Yeah, that's why they canceled it. They were like, it's only at 75 tickets. I'm like, capacity is only 350. And I know my fan base, so I really did this just to show them how dumb they were. So I literally just had.

[A]

Still came out.

[B]

I just had 2,000 people pull up to the venue. So, like, if it was a real show, it would have sold out at 350, and then it would have been another thousand people outside. They couldn't get in.

[A]

Damn, they fucked that up.

[B]

Yeah, they fucked it up bad.

[A]

What a weird thing to do, though. Why would they book you, knowing you know what you're doing, knowing how many people show up?

[B]

They don't. They don't. Like, you have to show them. That's why I Did stuff like this. Now they not going to cancel no more shows unless they. Unless they're butt hurt, but I doubt it. You know, it's a business. They want to make money. So I don't think they're going to cancel any more shows. I have a show with Live Nation on December 5th in Chicago at Reggie's. That one's obviously going to sell out because I'm from Chicago. All my. I just sold out a show in Bloomington, like, two days ago. All my shows have been selling out. I got show in Dallas that's about sold out. It's a thousand capacity. I think we're at, like, 800 tickets right now. But is like, they didn't believe it was sell out. I'm like, bro, what's wrong? And then, literally the day after they canceled it, all the news articles came out about me talking about the show.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I'm in the Sun Times talking about the show. I'm on Fox News talking about the show. I'm like, y' all are so stupid, bro. Like, I'm like, I just. I did this whole campaign about these shows, and y' all canceled the show. I'm like, you know, I tried to get them to put it back on. Like, we was on the phone with them. We're like, bro, like, we could renegotiate the deal. Like. And they was like, nah, we just.

[A]

You.

[B]

They were like. They felt like I didn't promote it enough.

[A]

What stops you from going, hey, venue. I'll take care of this because it's already booked. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Because they. The way it goes is, like, they're not gonna. They'll, like, do it for a different date or something, or we would have probably needed more notice. Like, they literally pulled the show, like, two, two, three days before.

[A]

I get it. But, like, they were already prepared for that.

[B]

Yeah, we tried. We was like, I like, let's try to get them to just let us in and had them buy tickets.

[A]

If you're doing this, man, you could do the Novo.

[B]

Yeah, I could do the Nova. I've done the Novo before, but I was opening for somebody. I was opening for Azizi Gibson. This was in, like, 2016. Yeah.

[A]

Say, I haven't heard that name in a minute.

[B]

Yeah, that was a while. And it was sold out. He sold it out, too. It was like a couple thousand people.

[A]

Well, before. Before COVID man, I felt like the hype was there, and then Covert came, and then, like, people like, y' all stay inside.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Usually I would go out to the mosh Pit. But now I'm just gonna stay home and text and. Yeah, I feel like people, but I.

[B]

Got people coming out.

[A]

You have people coming? I haven't seen that in a while.

[B]

I got people because I got outside. I just showed like, you can't just only do stuff on the Internet. You gotta go outside. Yeah. My point of doing that, I'm independent, so I spend my own money on flights. I. I bought my own hotel knowing I wasn't gonna make money from the show because it got canceled. But I'm like, I'm not gonna have my fans thinking I'm the one who canceled this show.

[A]

Of course not.

[B]

Because I didn't want it to get canceled.

[A]

So they all still showed up in more.

[B]

They showed up and then they was mad. They're mad at me right now because I can only do one song. But I was like, y' all want me to get arrested?

[A]

I gotta be honest, man, I haven't seen people crowd around people as person in a while performing in the street. It's been like what, 20, 20?

[B]

Maybe some like that.

[A]

There was a couple people dancing on top. Remember that fool's dance on top of car outside of a school. But that's a concentrated place. There's already at school. You're at Echo park, where all the hipsters are. And you had all these fools show up.

[B]

Yeah, that's what's been different because I've been doing the college ones and there's been like a couple thousand people. But this one was different because they had to drive here. Like they're not already at the college.

[A]

Yeah, you're not from here to go anywhere. You have to give a fuck because I'm not going down the street.

[B]

And it was raining and it's raining and it's raining. So if it was, imagine if it.

[A]

Was morning not too far from me.

[B]

Imagine if it wasn't raining. It probably would have been 5,000 people.

[A]

But in the rain in LA on a fucking lazy ass Sunday and you still have people coming out. Yeah, you got something going for yourself.

[B]

Yeah, no, it was crazy. And they gonna see now because like, think about it, they. They missed out on the sold out show. They missed out on a good promo publicity. All the people still not being able to get in. It really upsets me because I know how good it would have went. But this went good too. But I just wanted to have like an actual show.

[A]

Yeah, but you still showed up.

[B]

Yeah, I still showed up.

[A]

They still came like.

[B]

Yeah, they still came. So it was lit. Yeah, it was Fun. I mean, this type of stuff needs to happen because you gotta, like, you can't just be like, you can't give up. Because they're like, oh, we gonna cancel? I'm like, nah, we gonna show them they shouldn't have canceled for sure.

[A]

And like, with, with what you're doing, I gotta be honest with not doing drugs, not drinking. There's so much potential. I smoke weed unless I'm. Unless I'm sleeping. I'm really not just not smoking weed because that's what I do. Obviously. You look around, you see all the. When it's not drug related, when it's not. Like, I feel like there's so much potential to do more because I get it. Not everybody's supposed to be showing weed stuff. I get. That's why I'm with, like, when you're not doing that and you're showing more than that, I feel like it's. It's a mainstream potential. Like, we saw. Was it you. You turned out a deal with how many major labels for, for. And for what reason?

[B]

Everybody.

[A]

Do you not see, like the. What's the plus? Like, why aren't you doing that?

[B]

I just like being able to do what I want. Like, and they dictate that. Yeah, sometimes they do. I mean, the biggest deal I turned down was worth like six point something million. And this was in like 2018. And then, like, I still get offers all the time now. And I'm like, and I turned down, mind you, I turned down six point something million. And I had zero dollars in my bank account.

[A]

No.

[B]

And my dad was like, you're stupid.

[A]

I'm like, yo, I'm with dad kinda. But also like, integrity is worth a lot if you know you're gonna make more than that down the road.

[B]

That's why I told him. I was like, I know. I. I was like, they're offering me 6 million. That's why I told him. I was like, they offered me 6 million worth 12. I'm worth at least double. That's why I told her. I was like, I know I'm gonna make more than that. I was like, I'm gonna make more than 6 million. I was like. And it was for like six albums.

[A]

I'm like, oh, that's a long party.

[B]

Yeah, like 12 years. I'm like, 12 years of my life is worth way more than 6 million. I'm like, I'm like, I'm not doing it.

[A]

No, you do the math on. That's like 500.

[B]

Yeah. After taxes.

[A]

Really go hard.

[B]

Yeah. Easy.

[A]

They got three after taxes.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. Easy. The first deal, it was like 300,000 up front, and then it was like a 500, 000 recording budget and whatever you didn't use went back to you. So it was basically like 800, 000 for the first album. But I was like. I just felt like I was worth more, so.

[A]

Well, you know. You know what you're doing, man. Now look at your. How many years later, how many people have not came back?

[B]

A lot of people.

[A]

You know, I like. If you put it down like on the. When you're picking Mortal Kombat characters, there's like four left on that big ad in part three, when there's like 50 care, there's nobody left, man. I feel like all the, the. The artists that were really popping and doing their thing like I saw you do, had music with young. Lean. Youngling's awesome. I mean, but 20s, 16. That fool was like a teenager still, I think.

[B]

Yeah, we was all teenagers. I went on tour with him when we was both teenagers.

[A]

Oh, you were under like 18. Ish.

[B]

I was 19. Yeah. The warlord tour. It was U. S. Europe, Canada.

[A]

How the European. I just went for the first time. It's so different out there.

[B]

It's different. And they're on people early. Like how people treat me now. They were treating me like that in Europe back then.

[A]

Well, I think Europeans know and they're. I think they're cooler than us, man. I gotta be honest. I was just there.

[B]

I mean, they're cooler than us, to be honest. They're on music early and they really appreciate the art. Like, they. They don't just like you because other people like you. Like, they just appreciate it. Like, it doesn't matter if you're a smaller artist. They treat you like a bigger artist. If they really like you.

[A]

I think they see trajectory too.

[B]

Yeah, they do, because I'm telling you, I was getting chased down the street back then and I like only probably had like 10,000, 15,000 followers.

[A]

Okay, hold on real quick. What causes you to go? I'm going to sprint away because I've met people before, but hey, I like your shit. I just start taking off running.

[B]

No, because at this point, it's the only way I could get away. Like, I don't have security, so if I try to walk away, like, everybody follows me and then they crowd around the car. Like today. You could talk about it too. Like I said, you got your chair right there.

[A]

You want to bring it up?

[B]

Yeah, I'll let him talk about it because like, he with me every day. Like, I mean, yeah, you could talk about all the. Had fans act people come up to me because I feel like if I say it, it seemed kind of like.

[A]

Like, let him say that. I'm hella tight.

[B]

Yeah, I'll let him. He speak from experience.

[A]

Yeah. All right, hold up, everybody. Can you introduce yourself?

[C]

Yeah, Forever Band.

[A]

You can push. Push towards you.

[C]

Yeah, My name is Forever Band, so I'll speak on today, first of all. So today, when we usually do the meetups, we always know that it could get hectic. It could. It could be crazy. Today was the first meetup we did it out of outside of a venue. Kind of like out of spite. And. And I mean, not out of spite, but like on some like up I'm do it anyway. Exactly. We was on that shit. So we was like in our mind, you know, we possibly. Not only could it get crazy with the fans, but we could possibly get arrested.

[A]

Inciting. Right?

[C]

You know what I'm saying? Because it's in the middle of the street. It's hella people. So when we were in the car, we were just like coming up with plans and shit together. Like, how can we not get arrested and shit like that. Like, okay, the first thing we thought was like, all right, we just do one song. And then, you know, we. We. We staged these cars. So we had like three cars staged in different places. So you can get away. So we can get away.

[A]

You guys are on bad an robin.

[C]

That's cool as f. So I was. So we were like, okay, so we going to do one song and then we just going to run afterwards. Because we know that the fans were going to chase us. And if the fans chase at the time, same police was going to know where we are. So we was like, we're just going to run and like, possibly just hide somewhere. We was thinking like jumping in recycle bins.

[B]

Did you see the videos of them chasing after me today?

[A]

Today I saw one of you running and I saw one of you in another state.

[C]

No, it was fast, no.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

So once we ran, like a thousand people just ran after us.

[A]

What is the goal that they want? He's like, chase this.

[C]

No, I feel like. So you got to think about this. You got to think about this. So if your favorite artist of all time. So I don't know. Who's your favorite artist of all time?

[A]

Oh. Oh, they're all dead.

[C]

Exactly. Imagine live. Yeah, exactly.

[A]

That's insane. You guys Got to put zombie noises over.

[C]

Not for real. So we had, we had car stages. We had my boy suave stage a car somewhere. We had my boy Young Bull stage a car and then young bull had his friend also stage a car and whatever we you know somebody yell our name or we, we see him we going to woo. So as we running, we running un getting tired. I already seen that we like so they about to catch us and if, if they catch us it's over, it's done. Like cuz what we going to happen?

[A]

You guys are saying this crazy. No, it's just because they catch. They're going to kiss on the neck and.

[C]

No, it's just around us, you know. And then now they just ran. It's excitement and it's. You know.

[A]

No, I can only imagine the. It's kind of scary. I got to be honest.

[C]

You're not going to be able to move and you know what I'm saying. So then we heard Young Bull was like zoo. And so when we were running so we instantly got up in the car and then they crowded around the car. I was even scared. Like I was even thinking like we should get out the car again because.

[A]

Just to get it away from it again.

[C]

Yeah. Because they would start banging in the car. I didn't want them to mess up our homie car, you know what I'm saying? Because they started banging, banging, banging, banging, banging on the fucking car.

[B]

We couldn't move.

[A]

This is Michael Jackson shit.

[C]

It's Michael Jackson shit. Yeah.

[A]

Oh no no no. Yeah, yeah. Oh my God. I don't want any part of that. Yeah, no I get it. I would stage a car.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So.

[C]

So then, so we got in that car, zoomed off but we still thinking police, you know what I'm saying? Because it's helicopters. It's. We know it's carrying. So then we had his other homie like intercept and we got in his car. So like it was some whole like.

[A]

Yo, you guys should make it real game out of it. Like what are we going to do this time? Have some mascot thing stuff in the store next door.

[C]

Like even a mascot, it's scary but it like I just had hella fun.

[B]

I'm not going to lie.

[A]

That sounds.

[B]

It was a lot of fun. Wait, tell them about the day to day how to how you be around the artist and because he so interested. Yeah. Cuz he was asking about like how it is like like how the fans act. Like how they treat me.

[A]

Yeah. What's happening?

[C]

So I've been Around celebrities since I was like 15 years old. Like, Chance the Rapper is my best friend. I've been on private jets. I've been everywhere around the world with him. And I used to work with Kanye west as well. So I've been around, you know, some of the biggest celebrities in, you know, history, I guess, like Kanye West. Yeah. And Chance. These both Grammy award winning artists. And I haven't seen anything like this ever in my life.

[A]

Michael Jackson, like, in person.

[C]

Like I seen like, that's what I'm saying. I've seen clips of like Michael Jordan or Muhammad Ali, you know, where it's like, where shit like that, pop stars, maybe like when it's Russian, like they like. And we had to like to even get into the crowd, we had to like zip up his hoodie so they. And they still knew it was him.

[A]

Oh, yeah, they're going to know. They're going to know you were a ski master.

[C]

Yeah, they're going to know.

[A]

Fans are fans. They see. They know exactly how you walk, how you're done.

[C]

So like Taylor Swift.

[A]

Shit.

[C]

No. Yeah, so I've been very like, you know, I mean, I've appreciated seeing. It's like you witnessing like history. So I've been with him every day. And he's very humble too. Like, he takes pictures. Well, even though it's 3,000 people, he'll at least take pictures with like 600 people. And that's. Think about that. That's crazy. Two or three hours, you know what I'm saying? Signing autographs and you know, and DMing his fans. And I think that's why it's like this, because of the time he takes with his fans to make that like, real connection. And it's not just like, I want the money out of y', all, you know what I'm saying? It's like y' all really changing my life. I appreciate y' all for this. And I'm going, I'm going to rock with y', all, cuz, y', all, you know, you. Y' all changing my life.

[A]

No, it matters, man.

[C]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

It matters.

[C]

And he's been in worse position, so that's what he always tells me. He's like, bro, I don't get no. If it's like this crazy or dangerous, like I've been ubering and that's way worse. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

That's why I said I could be working at some dog ass place I don't want to work at.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And you know What? I've never, ever seen an artist enjoy this type of chaos in my life. Like you.

[A]

It's funny.

[C]

You'll see 3, 000 people and approach him, and he just has this big smile on his face, and he, like, you know, like, yeah, come get me. And I. And like, anybody else would be like, oh, you know, screaming. We have no security, bro. And I don't think we plan the message, too, though. Yeah.

[A]

Like, if you're talking about horrible things. Yeah, you might get some ass people coming to your meet and creep.

[C]

But, like, we. Yeah, and we positive. And we give off positive vibes, bro. And we always even try to say that, like, even though we were talking about, like, potentially getting arrested, we was like, but no, we good. You know what I'm saying? We gonna make ways of how to not get arrested, because, you know, even though he put, you know, he pushing, arrest me, daddy. Like, obviously, we don't want to go to jail. We want to make money, take care of our families, and make music.

[A]

I. I don't know how many more fun ways you guys can escape. That's. That's all I've been, like, thinking.

[C]

Maybe a helicopter.

[A]

Oh, like the Batman thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Shoot up the building.

[C]

I promise it's probably gonna get like that, and if not, we're gonna make some movies, and. And it's gonna be fun. Like, we. Like, this was the first time we did something like this, and I just had so much fun. And I think it will be fun to, you know, experiment with how to get away, even though we love the fans. But, you know, Chess cam, all you.

[A]

Guys, you split into pieces and see what happened with you. Like Reservoir Dogs. Like, what happened with you on this trip? Well, how did you get back to the building? That'd be. I'd watch that.

[B]

Yeah. Shout out forever, man. But, yeah, I think this was the craziest one, though, because, like, the other one that was super crazy was uic, but it was at. It's a college in Chicago, and that's your home state. Yeah. And I had to get a police escort to, like, I had to hop in. I had to beg a police to, like, let me in the car.

[A]

And they saw, and they. They had to do it, right.

[B]

I'm like, please, can you let me in the car? And they were like, what's going on? And I was like, I do music, and these are my fans. Can I please just get in the car? Because they. They. I couldn't leave. And then I was, like, knocking on restaurant windows trying to get Them to let me in, and they was locking the doors, and I'm like, bro, Like, I'm like, damn. I up.

[A]

Also, like, be a restaurant owner. You see this guy come up, like, let me in.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

700 people behind.

[B]

No, it was. It was some. It was some thousands. That. That one was the only other one that was, like, this big. No, it's been a few of them that's been this big. Yeah, Loyola was crazy. It's been a few of them that was, like, super big. But this is the. I would say this is the craziest one, because, like we said before, the colleges, they already there because they're at school.

[A]

This is like spotting people.

[B]

Yeah, they had to drive in. Some people drove from hours away. Like, this was like, they really had to want to be there. It's not even just like, oh, I'm bored at school. Let me go see what's going on. This was like, they had to come. So this one was just so crazy. And then. Yeah, people think it's crazy. I don't have security, but I'm like, honestly, I think my fans. Honestly, I think my fans will protect me, to be honest.

[A]

For sure.

[B]

Because I think we have a certain.

[A]

Message, man, you're gonna be fine.

[B]

That's the type of fan base I have. And they're just all nice and cool. Like, they'd be excited, but, I mean, I would be excited, too.

[A]

Too hard?

[B]

Yeah. Most.

[A]

They're gonna do, like, ah, yeah, they've done that.

[B]

And I. And I get it. Like, I mean, imagine me seeing my favorite artists when I was younger.

[A]

That's exactly how I feel.

[B]

Like, for free, outside and you this close to them. Like, it's not even. No barrier. Like, you could get right next to them. Like, I'll be so excited, too.

[A]

Example. Who would you have done that for when you. All right, I'm 17 years old.

[B]

Go, Lil Wayne. Like, if I. Tripping.

[A]

Losing your mind. I get it, bro.

[B]

If I could have got. I. I had a. I went to a show. Lil Wayne had a bar tour. Did you know about that? I don't know about that. Oh, wow. I'm surprised. Okay. He had a bar tour. I saw him at a bar in Peoria.

[A]

Like a.

[B]

Like a.

[A]

Where you drink. A bar. I thought you meant, like, a tour of bars.

[B]

He. He performed at a bar in Peoria.

[A]

Why?

[B]

And I. I got the. Like, it was a secret. One of my. I played baseball in college. I had a full baseball scholarship, so one of my teammates worked at the bar, and he was like, yo, Lil Wayne's gonna perform it. I'm like, bro, you're lying. Like, it's a small bar. I could probably at max hold 300 people. So I'm like, bro, you're lying. Lil Wayne's not coming here. And this is like 2015. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, bro, you're lying. And then he was like, bro, just come. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna come. And then when he's not there, you're gonna owe me some money for wasting my time. And I pulled up and it was really Lil Wayne. And then I had all the videos on my phone, but I switched my phone and it like, deleted out my icloud. But that's the closest I've been to Lil Wayne because I was like in the front and it was a bar, so I was like, this is crazy. So that's like the only other thing I could probably compare to how my fans view my meetups.

[A]

I could, I could only. No, I get it. Like, we do. Like, I do a bunch of online. So when I meet fans, I'm like, yo, I get it. I always say, like, if I met Adam Sandler when I was at a liquor store, I'd lose my mind.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I get it. Like, you might be the only time they're ever gonna. They'll ever see you in person. Yeah, like, yo, can I get a picture? Because no one's gonna up believe this. That's usually what it's for.

[B]

Back I couldn't believe the Lil Wayne said. I'm like, why the is he performing at a bar?

[A]

But see, you had the videos. Like, damn, no one's gonna believe me.

[B]

Nobody was in Peoria. I went to college in Peoria. I'm like, why is Lil Wayne coming to a bar in Peoria? But I came to find out the. The bar owner was just such a huge Lil Wayne fan. They just gave him so much money. Like they. Whatever he was asking for at the time, they gave him like a hundred some thousand dollars to perform at a bar.

[A]

That's just a fan. So he just lost 99, 000.

[B]

Yeah, he lost money. He just loved Lil Wayne.

[A]

So you can't make that back at a bar.

[B]

Yeah, but like, I. I bet everybody in Peoria is gonna keep going to that bar. Yeah. And they gonna keep talking about it because I for sure kept going there. So I was like, yeah, because my friend, he was just like my teammate, he was just like, yeah, the bar owner is just crazy. He Just gave him all that money to come. Where?

[A]

Where's this at?

[B]

Peoria.

[A]

What state?

[B]

Illinois.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's like southern Illinois kind of by.

[A]

Like farm money or something. How this fool get 100 bands to just burn?

[B]

No farmers have so much money.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

It's a bunch of farms. It's a bunch of farms out there. So he probably got a farm.

[A]

Yeah. In California, if you see Mexicans with cowboy hats and their shirts tucked in their farm, they got farm money.

[B]

Yeah, I. I had a bunch of teammates that was. They owned farms. Like their family like passed them down a farm. So they just.

[A]

They had passed me down some land.

[B]

We was in college. We was in college. They would pull up in two hundred thousand dollar pickup trucks. Those S450s, I'm saying they pull up in those. Like, those are expensive. 200. I started googling them. One of my teammates had a 200, 000 truck in college as a teenager.

[A]

Yeah, I know it sounds like that's a spoiled kid. Like, I hope my kids are those kids instead of what I was. Yeah, I'd rather my kids be spoiled than going, I gotta take a bus.

[B]

Yeah, me too. I'd rather market gonna be a nepo baby.

[A]

Why not, right?

[B]

Yeah, he for sure is.

[A]

Yeah. You see all these fools, it takes two years, they're like, all right, the nepotism shit's gone now. You're famous, man. I know.

[B]

Yeah. No, he a nepo baby right now. But yeah, that, that, that was the first time I seen like the farm money. I didn't like, I didn't even think about it, to be honest. Cuz I never was around farms till I went to college. And I was like, damn, they got a lot of money.

[A]

Okay, so you go from high school?

[B]

What.

[A]

What position you playing baseball?

[B]

Second base.

[A]

That all the balls go right there. I'm good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm like, yo, middle, come get my. So I don't have to look embarrassed and miss this. But I've lost. I've missed two pop flies in a row once. I never want to play baseball again in my life.

[B]

Nah, I was, I was pretty good.

[A]

We'll say you got a full ride.

[B]

Scholarship and then I had some workouts with the Kansas City Royals to play.

[A]

For real?

[B]

Yeah, no, I played for real. I probably would have got drafted. I played with Gavin Looks. You know Gavin looks? No, he was on the Dodgers. He was on the world Series team.

[A]

I don't watch baseball like that.

[B]

Yeah, he got traded though. But I played with him. I'm trying to think who else I play with and they may be.

[A]

So you're a real athlete?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[B]

I was pretty decent. But then my music started doing good, so I dropped out of college. Yeah. Went on tour. That Young Lane tour. I dropped out and went on that tour.

[A]

All right, at what point on tour did you go? All right, I made the right decision.

[B]

Not that tour because like it was a good tour, but I'm just like, you know, I always miss baseball and I always thought I was going to be an athlete. So I'm just like, dang, did I make the right decision? I. I didn't really feel like I made the right decision till now because like when I was doing Uber, I was like, damn, what would have happened if I would have just stuck with baseball? Because like. But a lot of people get stuck in the minors though. I gotta. Because you know, the Miners don't make nothing. That's why it's always MLB lockouts. Like after you pay the clubhouse fees, you gotta pay the people you stay with me.

[A]

What's that?

[B]

Like the people that do your laundry for baseball in the minors.

[A]

Yeah, they just do that.

[B]

No, no, that comes out their check. And then like they gotta stay with like sponsors. Whoever like houses them while they're playing because they're. When you're in the minors, you don't make any money.

[A]

I had no idea. I just watch. He's bounded down and assume they all make money to get a truck.

[B]

No, no, not all of them. Like if you like a first round draft pick, you know, you get like a 6, 7 million dollar signing bonus. So they make money. One of my, one of my people I played with was a first round pick.

[A]

I love, I love seeing young soon to be millionaires getting drafted. This is so awesome to watch, man.

[B]

Yeah. No, I had a, a friend from the trenches. The hood from. He went to Simeon Corey Ray beat down car. First round draft pick. Six million dollar signing bonus. He's still in the he. And I think he has sent back down to the minors right now because he got injured. But he, he played on the brewers so he was good. I was happy to see that for him because he, he grew up not having money, but he was very, very talented. Obviously it was a first round draft. Probably one of the best people I've ever played with him and Gavin obviously. But it was people as good as him that didn't make it that I played with. It's just because like Corey or appeal to. It's. It's like, he's like family friendly. He, he's well spoken. He knows how to talk to people. He's very like marketable.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Like yeah, it has to. Like I was saying with me, it's like you're not talking about drugs. All I do is let smoking. Well, I get why I can't get sponsors.

[B]

Don't mind. Yeah, like mind you, he's very good too. You have to be good as well. But there's people that were as good as him but they weren't as marketable so they didn't make it.

[A]

So like having a fudgeing social media following might get you drafted easier now. Yeah, probably like something like, you know, look at that.

[B]

Yeah, they'll probably look at it. But it's just like you gotta know how to speak to people. You might be good but you have a bad attitude. They're not gonna deal with that. Owens, man, you remember Carlos Zambrano? No, I don't play with the Cubs. So good. He not. He got out the MLB because he had a bad attitude. No teams want to pick him up. All his teammates hated him. So even when you're as good as somebody like that, baseball fans that know who I'm talking about, Carlos Zambrano, they know how good he was. Even if you're as good as that, if nobody wants to play with you, they not gonna do it. Because everybody's good in the mlb.

[A]

Yeah, I guess so. I mean I was just talking about the other day. I think that's the hardest sport. Even though it's like the least told by getting smacked and yeah, I, I, I could throw a football, I could probably throw a far. But I can't hit that little dot with a baseball at 98. I can't do it.

[B]

I got friends I was for sure thought was gonna make it to the mlb. They, they made it to the minors and then they had to stop because they only making 500amonth. After they pay everything they get, they'll get like a $10,000 signing bonus and make like 500amonth.

[A]

How is that doable?

[B]

Is not. Your family has to support you through the minors and if like they don't want to do that, then it's kind of hard. That's why you see like MLB players that's in the minors, they're like working at grocery stores.

[A]

I had no idea.

[B]

Yeah, because you don't even have time to get a, a full time job because you're spending so much time on baseball. So you got to get like these little part time jobs, like grocery store, like being a college student, Uber drivers, whatever. Yeah, it's like being a college student but you're a professional athlete. So it's like that's why they had an MLB lockouts and all that. Because it's. Yeah. So they're like, yeah, you made the right decision. I'm making 500amonth and I'm thinking like, damn, he got drafted. Like, I'm so happy. And they making 500amonth.

[A]

Yeah, you just burst the whole bubble right now. I had no idea.

[B]

Yeah, but hopefully it gets better soon. And there's people that do that and they grind it out and they make it and then they get a 300 million dollar contract. So it's like, it's a grind too. It's worth it. Like crazy.

[A]

You can make that much in baseball.

[B]

You can make so much. Like crazy. It's worth it. Like it is worth it if that's what you want to do. But it's just not easy. Like nothing is easy.

[A]

Of course not. Especially for something that you can rule your whole small country you go back to with $300 million.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. I, I feel like I could have made it anything I did. I feel like I made a baseball too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So do you.

[A]

Hold on real quick. You're super into baseball. You're an athlete. Are you a good student in schools? Are you doing all your. Right?

[B]

Like, no, that was the thing. I, I was not into school work. Like I'm not, I'm like smart, but I just like books and like stuff I didn't like doing. I can't do it. Like, I gotta like doing it. So I was good at baseball. So my first year of college I would have had to go to summer school because I feel, I feel English because I didn't buy the book because I was broke. So I didn't buy the textbook and I had a 73%. Without the book. Without the book. And then like that was like failing because a C in English was failing at the college. I went to college.

[A]

What the fuck?

[B]

Yeah, it was like a dumb grader scale. Like a 73 counted as like a, a D or some. It was some. And, and I failed because I turned in an essay that was opinion based and the teacher like gave me like a 69 on it or something and I'm like, how did you give me a low score on something that's an opinion?

[A]

It's the opposite of her opinion.

[B]

Yeah. And I was like, that's what happened, dude. But yeah, I felt like that was a pretty good grade for me not having the textbook, so.

[A]

Oh yeah, you're like me. I. I did English. I never read the book. And I would just my way through it.

[B]

Yeah. So I was like. Because I was like, the book was like 500. I'm like, I don't got 500 to spend on that.

[A]

They used to let us photocopy that when I was in college. But I'm not doing that.

[B]

Yeah. I'm not binding Loki. I should have did that.

[A]

Or just use it at the study hall. But I gotta be there to use that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey man, if they want me to pass college, just give me the tools to pass college.

[B]

And then it was like some days where you would come to class and they would like give you like a fail for not having the book. They would do like a book check or some. It was like some dumb.

[A]

Yeah, you guys just. State sucks, man.

[B]

It was like something to us. It was like some stupid stuff. But I was there to play baseball, so I was like. Yeah.

[A]

All right. So are you into movies at all?

[B]

Yeah, I am, but I haven't had time to like watch movies.

[A]

Best baseball movie.

[B]

Oh. Oh. It's a lot of them.

[A]

There's a lot of them. I know.

[B]

Okay. Sandlot. All right, Sandlot. We gotta go with sandlot. The original sandlot.

[A]

There. There's another one.

[B]

Yeah, it's a couple of them. You gotta go with the Babe. You saw Babe? Yeah, Babe Ruth.

[A]

Uhuh. I never seen that.

[B]

Gotta watch Babe ruth. I forgot Mr. 3000.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[B]

Bernie Mac, Bernie Mack. That's a good one.

[A]

Has ever said Mr. 3000 in the five years?

[B]

No. I'm a baseball, Stan.

[A]

Okay. Oh, then keep going. Keep going.

[B]

So, let me see. Field of Dreams. How do you feel about a Rookie of the Year?

[A]

Rookie of the Year? I thought if you broke your arm it would. It would work. I was a kid. That happened, dude.

[B]

Rookie of the year bench warmers. That was a good one.

[A]

It's a baseball.

[B]

Yeah, it's technically a baseball.

[A]

Best sandwich machine I've ever seen in my entire life. The coolest robot I've ever seen.

[B]

Yeah, that was a cool Chicago.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, hardball. Yeah, Hardball was a great one.

[A]

Rip G B, baby.

[B]

Yeah, Har was a great movie. That was a great movie. Damn. I can't believe I forgot that one. I was probably going to get to it, but Har was a good one.

[A]

League of Their Own. Tom Hanks.

[B]

Wait, I'm have to Google about the.

[A]

Women'S baseball team in the 40s.

[B]

Did I not see that?

[A]

Oh, that shit's hilarious. You got Madonna's in that.

[B]

Yeah, I don't.

[A]

You got to watch it, man. That's.

[B]

Oh, no, I have seen this. I saw this movie. Yeah.

[A]

Damn, you really do know all the baseball movies.

[B]

I saw this.

[A]

Okay. How you feel about Hot Shots?

[B]

Hot Shots. Let me see if I've seen it. Some of them. I don't know the names, but I watched them. Charlie Sheen, Hot Shots. Let's see.

[A]

Yeah, or Major League. Major League. Sorry, I meant Major League. Hot Shots is with the. That's like Bull Durham. Is that what I'm thinking? Bull Durham's a good movie too. You've seen that?

[B]

Oh, yeah. Major League. I saw this Bull Durham.

[A]

I think it's Kevin Costner.

[B]

You said Bull Durham.

[A]

Bull Durham, the baseball movie.

[B]

I saw Major League, though.

[A]

Major League's tight, man. I think that might be every baseball movie, guys. I don't think there are any more baseball.

[B]

Oh yeah, I saw this too. I used to watch a good movie.

[C]

Dude.

[B]

I remember.

[A]

Damn. You were that one little kid with a glove watching movies and I had.

[B]

My glove on me. I used to sleep with it.

[A]

That's what I'm saying, in the back pocket.

[B]

And I would sleep with it. I would go to sleep on my baseball uniform.

[A]

That's the choice. It's a crazy choice to make, man.

[B]

I was that. It's not that crazy. You might sleep in your jays if you're a real Hooper. Like that's. Yeah, like I used to think, like my life, I thought I was meant to be an athlete. Like, I thought I was going to be in the mlb. I thought like my whole life that's what I was going to do.

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[B]

I do.

[A]

I do the same thing with my football.

[B]

Yeah. I have dreams. I'm like, in the mlb.

[A]

Yeah, you're playing, you wake up, go shitty. But also that stress.

[B]

I don't even watch baseball anymore because I get emotional.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I can't watch it.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Like, I really miss baseball.

[A]

Damn, dude, that's sad.

[B]

No, like, dead ass.

[A]

Start a. Start a league, man. Yeah, start a league with a bunch of baseball players. Sure, you can get out there.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

Like, Def Jam. Fight for New York.

[B]

But not. It's crazy. Like, my coaches would be like, they would be crying and I'll be like, y' all are weird. And now I'm like, older and I like film because they.

[A]

Damn, I'm done.

[B]

No, they would be like, you're not taking this serious. One day, y' all won't be playing baseball anymore. And they would be like, y' all need to really enjoy this. And they would be crying and I'm like, damn. Like, I feel them. It's. It's sad. No, I feel him. I'm like.

[A]

That'S so sad.

[B]

I used to think they was weird. I swear to God. I used to, like, make fun of them for crying.

[A]

I. I agree. And did. Yeah, I understand. Our. Our offensive lineman coach.

[B]

Yeah. I'm like, get into it. I'm like, nah, that was just real. They just miss playing baseball so much. They love baseball and they hate seeing people not taking it serious.

[A]

Yeah. When I see a 63 that doesn't do sports, I'm just like, what the. You know?

[B]

Yeah. I'm saying. And then they know, like, you got potential and you wasting it. So they like. It hurts them.

[A]

Yeah. I've seen. I've seen one kid I know should be the NFL with his grades, man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This kid in my high school, he's great. So he never. He was amazing. And paper constantly. He just never made. We've had a couple people go to the NFL for my school, but.

[B]

Yeah. Rare. Yeah. I never got into football.

[A]

Yeah, but the way you were with. That's how I was with football.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cards, magazines. Told, like, all that shit. All I thought about every day, all day, until I was like, I could sell weed. It was over. No, that's really sad. But that's why. That's why I have those dreams, man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Football captain. I quit. I was like, I'm done. Like, in Daisy, confused. I'm not playing.

[B]

Yeah. I'm happy with my life, though. But I would. I would do both, to be honest. Like, I always. Yeah, I always wanted to do music, too. Like, when I was younger, because I started making music for fun. I was just doing it for. Just to listen to it. And then I started putting it out, and then I had a song go viral on Vine.

[A]

On Vine.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

You were a teenager then.

[B]

Yeah, I was a teenager. So I had a song go viral online when I was in high school. It was called Phase Me. And then I was like, maybe I could do music for real. And then, like, I was just putting out music. And then, like, my baseball coaches were listening to it. They were like, oh, I like it. And then when I was in college, they was playing my music, like, in the workout room, and my take.

[A]

A weird feeling.

[B]

Yeah. My college coach texted me to like, maybe like a month ago. It was like, we're still playing your music. Yeah. Loki. I still got a couple years left of eligibility, but.

[A]

No, you know what you should do? Go for it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I think when I was 29. Let's just.

[C]

Nah.

[A]

When I was 23, this guy was selling packs to. He was. He was a D1 offensive tackle. He's like, I'm working out with those. Because I was talking about. I love the why I quit. And, like, I was having dreams. Like, what if I went back? Get back. I'll get murdered, though.

[B]

Yeah. No, sometimes, like, you could.

[A]

I'm saying for baseball, but.

[B]

Yeah. Not football. Yeah.

[A]

Six. Six. I'll. I'll try.

[B]

Yeah. No, not that you have skills.

[A]

Like, I'll throw faster than you.

[B]

Yeah. Every once in a while you hear about, like, a substitute teacher making it to the mlb. Like, did you remember that one guy? He was like, a substitute Teacher. He like had Tommy John surgery and he came back that mean, like your elbow like, Tommy John. Yeah, they called it Tommy John because that was the first person to have that surgery. It was like an experimental surgery.

[A]

What a whack ass name. But I get it.

[B]

Yeah. So they called it. They started calling Tommy John surgery. And so he had that. Which normally sometimes it ends your career because it's like a crazy surgery. It's like tearing your like ACL or some is whatever it is. But he came back. He was a substitute teacher and then whatever. He was just trying to come back and he was throwing like 100 miles an hour. So he got draft. Like they picked him up. He was a substitute teacher.

[A]

That's usually don't watch football, but Kurt Warner's ass was bagging groceries.

[B]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It was a story like that. So every once in a while you hear about that and you're like, maybe I should go do something. Like try.

[A]

Go attempt. Now they got slap league, man. Out of shape stars. Yeah, I've been hooked on it for a week. I don't know what the going on. I'm not watching on YouTube, man.

[B]

The white Sox or the Cubs. Let me have a tryout just for fun. It'll be fun.

[A]

You should go through the opening pitch somewhere.

[B]

Yeah, I should do that.

[A]

Yeah, why not, dude?

[B]

Nah. If somebody let me try out, I'll probably work out for like a couple months before.

[A]

You never know what next year is going to be. Isn't that crazy? Like I can still do that if I want.

[B]

It sounds like you really still got it in you that you want to do this. Yeah, I could probably do it if I worked out consistently so fast. Makes sense.

[A]

You're a athlete.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Sorry. I just click.

[B]

I'm burn.

[A]

Hour later.

[B]

I ran. When I got my full scholarship, I ran a 6, 5, 6 0. I know they run 40s in baseball.

[A]

I don't even know. I mean, at football, that's like some European. So we run a 60.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know what equivalent that is to a 40, but it's. It's fast as hell. It's like. It's like you run that they give you a scholarship. They're like, okay, they did. And then they're like, you should think about running track. Like, it's like that fast. So I ran that and then I got a scholarship.

[A]

Damn. When I was p. They're like, you should think about like an office job because you're slow as. As they told Me?

[B]

Yeah. I'm not that fast anymore because I don't work out consistently, but if I worked out consistently, I'll probably.

[A]

No, man. You're faster than every single one of your fans. Let's just say that you're faster than.

[B]

A lot of people. Yeah, but I used to be faster when I was like.

[A]

Like, I was Tyreek Hill, essentially.

[B]

Yeah. Like, I. I never lost racing people until now.

[A]

Well, man, I feel like the next time I see you, I really hope you have some pinstripes on your pants and you're gunning it, because when you have it, dude, don't be 60 going, I'm gonna shoot somebody. I haven't played baseball because I get it. I understand.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Once you love something, that's it. It's over.

[B]

Yeah. But I love music the same way, too, so I'm. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I feel like how Michael Jordan. He liked baseball or loved baseball and he did it for a second. Like, I feel like I could do it for a second.

[A]

Yeah, but you'll be better than Michael Jordan because you see space.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He was not good at baseball.

[B]

Yeah. But I feel like I would be better. But it's. I'm telling. It's very hard to be good at the MLB level because it's hard to be good in college.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So. But I batted.375 in college.

[A]

Yeah. Tell me what that means. That good? Because I don't watch space.

[B]

No, it's good. Okay. It's very good. So, like, if you bat that in. In the mlb, you're like a All Star. But that's the MLB versus college. Like, MLB is like.

[A]

No, it's night and day. But also, like. Not really.

[B]

No. Really? No.

[A]

I'm saying, like, what, three levels above it out of 10, it.

[B]

I don't even know if you can, like.

[A]

Oh, like that.

[B]

Equate it. Yeah, like, it's. It's the best players in the world.

[A]

No, for sure. I get.

[B]

I understand that, like, college is not. I face better competition playing travel ball when I was younger because I. I played on the USA team for a second, and then I got. I got again, man. Yeah. I got cut from the USA team. Yeah. No, it's pretty good, even. Oh, another thing. One. This Kevin Coe, he was an MLB scout. He posted me on his story the other day and was like, y' all don't even know. He was good at baseball, too. And that. That was coming from an MLB scout. I reposted it. Yeah.

[A]

No, for real. Like, to think about, like, I could be both.

[B]

Yeah, well, just do it.

[A]

You're only gonna be young for so long. Could you imagine next next three years? This was playing in the mlb. Easy, yo. Then you can just do the walkout music. Yo, Double dip is what I'm trying. You're gonna sell out all these games.

[B]

They're gonna watch you. Could you imagine? Yeah, no.

[A]

No one's ever done that in life before. Maybe the opposite now.

[B]

If I was in the mlb, the white socks or whoever, the stadiums would probably be packed because it would just be on some like, what they have.

[A]

They'd have the youngest fan base of all time.

[B]

Yeah, they would.

[A]

It would be like, yo, everybody that cares about music come to play baseball.

[B]

Imagine my walkout is just me doing a dance to my song. They would be like, hey, White Sox marketing team, tap in.

[A]

You are the one. Double dip, dude. They take over the budget for that.

[B]

Yeah, do it just to sell tickets. Look, it doesn't even matter if I bet 100. The ticket sales alone.

[A]

It's both. Like, I'm just Daria, not even swinging. And you see these sales?

[B]

You see these ticket sales? I would be the top purchase jersey.

[A]

That's what Kobe thought he was going to do when he released that song. That's not what happened at all. Everybody just started making fun of the way he moves and damn, that was a bad video.

[B]

Sha Shaq had a platinum song.

[A]

Shaq had a hard ass song with zero last year. Did you hear that?

[B]

No, I didn't hear. But doesn't Shaq have a platinum song?

[A]

I'm not sure.

[B]

Yeah, from. From like Shazam or something.

[A]

Oh, that's a good movie. They started making all those Hammers fall My little Fat child heart.

[B]

So what you think about Shazam. The other one, Kazam. With Kazam. You know the. The what? They call it the Mandela effect one.

[A]

Oh, that's just not real. That's just not real.

[B]

I remember that.

[A]

It's a real movie. Sinbad even came out like, yeah, that was a real movie.

[B]

I remember that being a real movie.

[A]

It is a room where I watched it. I'm had the. The turbine with the.

[B]

But you can't find it anywhere.

[A]

I promise you on life, that shit's real. That Mandela fix shit's real. As though.

[B]

But I'm like, why can't I. Why are y' all trying to tell me this isn't a real movie? And I remember watching it what I think it is.

[A]

I think the government does that. So it makes you question if you're like, you know what? I could be wrong. And as soon as they pull some real out, like, no, no, you could be wrong. Right. And you condition your brain and the world. If everybody in the room tells you you're wrong. Yeah, but you know you're right eventually.

[B]

Like, maybe I'm wrong because I'm like, no, I remember that movie Don't Trust. I used to watch it a lot.

[A]

Yeah, I used to watch Shazam too. Like it's not. Not real. I watched the.

[B]

Yeah, like I watched Bernstein Bears.

[A]

I read those books as a child.

[B]

Yeah, I did too. What's the one? What they say. They say it's spilled different, right?

[A]

Yeah, that's the one. Berenston.

[B]

Yeah. And then the Fruit of the Loom with the like corner cook thing.

[A]

I don't remember that.

[B]

I remember that. I can't really see the Monopoly with the monocle thing. The, the.

[A]

No, no, I see all the Mandela effect. That's just. It's the government, man.

[B]

I remember a lot of it.

[A]

It's cern. They changed our reality.

[B]

But did you see the guy that had all the Mandela effect stuff locked in a thing?

[A]

Yep. The Ford logo.

[B]

He had like everything.

[A]

Like I said. Who's to say, like all of us, hey, when he walks in, tell him that, you know, but shit's wrong.

[B]

It might be time traveling. That and then people changing the timelines. That could be Mandela.

[A]

Could you make us rich as whoever is doing that, please? Like, leave some gold in my grandma's property or something.

[B]

Sick, Low key. They kind of. I think they doing that to me. I feel like I'm in my best timeline.

[A]

You know what I said yesterday on the drive? I was like, what if when you die and you're like reincarnation, they just took like they flashy thing you for Men in Black, like, you don't remember. Because I know if I'm an old man, like, bury all my money right next to SeaWorld. And when my next life, when I'm 18, I'm coming to get this.

[B]

Yeah, I feel it. Could you imagine?

[A]

Oh, I cheated so hard.

[B]

I feel like I'm in my best, best timeline.

[A]

Oh, it's. I. I feel. You do. I feel like we're in the worst time, but our best personal timeline. Yeah, right now it's weird. It's like Demolition man outside.

[B]

It is weird. But for me personally. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

Like, for you personally, it's sick.

[B]

I feel like my life is great. What's your goal for 2026 with the Music Shot. 20, 26. I want a platinum song. I want a Billboard Hot 100 number one. Those are short term goals that I want to achieve very soon. Also, somebody I grew up with just had a Billboard Hot 100 number. I think it went to like number three. Oh, with Raven Lanae.

[A]

Oh, sure.

[B]

What's the name of that song?

[A]

But somebody you know personally.

[B]

Yeah, I grew up. I grew up where we from the same neighborhood. We went to the same people.

[A]

When people do from. Even from your town, unless you're a hater, you got to be so happy.

[B]

No, she. She just did it. Yeah. Love me not that inspired me. I'm like, I could do it too. Wait, I'm a.

[A]

And here's a song before I listen. You never heard this albums over and over again.

[B]

Billboard, it's been everywhere.

[A]

I listen to mainstream music. Really?

[B]

Yeah. So at this point, it's mainstream. But she was. She was not mainstream for a long time. She's been doing music since we were kids. Raven Lene sick. And she's always done music. Even when we were like fourth, fifth grade. Like, she's always done music. And she. She's been signed for a while. I think she signed to Atlantic and like she's just reaching this point of her career. Like she's at least like 10, 11 years in. And she just had a Billboard Hot 100, almost number one. Like top five. Like, when's the last time a person from Chicago has had a top five Billboard high 100 song? Little Dirt.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, I'm saying that's Lil Dirt, you know, that's. He's a big artist. So for Raven to achieve that, that's like crazy.

[A]

No, for sure. And it's an achievable goal now that you see that.

[B]

Yeah. And I just seen her with her. I was with her and her mom. Her grandma was my Spanish teacher.

[A]

Wait, you know Spanish?

[B]

Okay, I'll take it. I take it from kindergarten to senior year of high school, so I should know it. But like I said, when it's not music, order food. When it's. No, when it's not. When it's not music or baseball. Hey, I just.

[A]

But no, not even a little. I don't know Spanish. You know, I'm the only one in my family doesn't speak Spanish at both sides.

[B]

Hola, Miyamo Adams.

[A]

You already got me.

[B]

Like, that's it. Like, that's about it.

[A]

Yo, that's crazy. I talked to my mom. I took 12 years of art. I can't Draw. I can't write my name good.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. I'm like, I wish I would have took it serious. I wish I would take it serious. I would love to speak Spanish.

[A]

I would love to get discounts at Santee Alley, dude. I would love. I would love to get discounts at.

[B]

You know. You know who flew in Spanish? Vivi. Abundant. He lived in Mexico. Fluent. One of my cousins is fluent in Spanish.

[A]

Are you Dominican?

[B]

No, we're black.

[A]

I'm just saying. Yeah, no, I got this bit. I do.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no. Me, no, me no black. Me Dominican.

[A]

Yeah, I was saying because you can't tell if it was a point guard or a shortstop. And because you're like, are you black or Dominican? Like, until you see him play, like, you're Dominican 100 miles an hour.

[B]

Yeah, no, he's a short stop, so.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I'm not going.

[A]

You're a baseball player.

[B]

I'm not gonna lie. He don't even look like he knows Spanish. And you would think if I play baseball, I would know Spanish because everybody I was playing with spoke Spanish.

[A]

Like, you know half your players.

[B]

And, like, all my teammates was pue. Mexican. I feel like it was a few Dominicans.

[A]

Like, all Mexicans, basically.

[B]

Yeah, it was everybody.

[A]

Dominicans and Puerto Ricans.

[B]

I would say most people I played baseball with spoke Spanish. Even my coaches would be speaking Spanish. And I'm like, in Chicago. Yeah, because there's a lot of Puerto Ricans and Mexicans in Chicago.

[A]

I just found that out, because this is. Okay. Yeah, there's hella Mexicans out in.

[B]

Yeah. Chicago. There's a lot I didn't know.

[A]

We took over that area, too.

[B]

Yeah. It's a lot of Mexicans in Chicago.

[A]

So you've seen over everybody. Just looking over all these five. Five dudes.

[B]

I'm not gonna. He don't even. Like, he would know Spanish. Like, he started speaking Spanish. He would be like, what the.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I know that one. His name is Trent, and he built this whole place. It's our white homie with long, curly hair, and it's just fluent in Spanish.

[B]

Yeah, I meet a lot of white people like that. Like, I met a white person that looked like they was racist, and then they started speaking, like, fluent Spanish.

[A]

Isn't it kind of like, I'm an.

[B]

I was like.

[A]

Like, I'm the bad person here, dude.

[B]

Yeah. Like, he was talking to, like, he had, like, a construction company or something, so he was talking to, like, his workers in Spanish. But I was like, he was a slave trader.

[A]

That's why he knows.

[B]

Yeah, it was kind of. It was kind of me up, cuz. I'm like, damn, bro. Know Spanish or.

[A]

Is this bad, though?

[B]

Yeah. I'm like, do you just learn it to make money?

[A]

You know what? I'll learn Chinese tomorrow if you give me a bunch of money.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, yeah, he. He spoke that, though. I'm like, damn, I wish I spoke a different language. That's one thing I want to do, too. Maybe I'll do that when I get some free time.

[A]

What, you do a backflip and speak two languages?

[B]

Yeah, and some splits. I'll learn how to do splits, too.

[A]

Splits like John Claude Van Damme.

[B]

Yeah, I'm gonna learn how to do splits.

[A]

When I was a kid, I could before I got fat as almost. What I thought was this. I used to watch Power Rangers a lot, so I thought I was this man.

[B]

Yeah, I used to watch that, too.

[A]

Who's your favorite? Hold on for holding before we go. Who's your favorite Power Ranger?

[B]

You remember the yellow one died.

[A]

Yeah, I do know that. Yeah. But also, she's a girl.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When you're a kid, you got. You can't be the girl. You have to pick a guy. Remember, as a kid, like, you can't be Yellow Ranger.

[B]

I feel like as a kid, people used to say that sometimes.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

When you're a kid. Everybody did.

[B]

I feel like everybody. Everybody wants to be Kim Possible, though.

[A]

I didn't watch that.

[B]

Kim Possible. Call me, Be me. If you want to meet me. If you. It's okay, whatever. If you want to meet me.

[A]

Remix.

[B]

Yeah, I like it.

[A]

That's. That's your. That's your number one right there. You remake it.

[B]

Oh, crying.

[A]

But, yeah, man, come on, you got to go. Fucking Green Ranger, dude.

[B]

What about advice to, like, younger up and coming content creators? Like, what's. What's the secret? What's the direction? Post 20 times a day.

[A]

It's a lot.

[B]

Instagram rules. It's a lot of work, but everything you want to do is a lot of work, to be honest.

[A]

Are you doing the same. Like, how do you go with 20 different fucking ideas?

[B]

I just post anything. Like, that's how it starts. Like, you just post anything. Like, I started posting these new videos where I'm like, can I wash the dishes instead? Like, when I'm at a restaurant.

[A]

Oh, see that. But that's effort. You're thinking of a theme, of something that could be like, I know what the payoff Is going to be.

[B]

Yeah. And I'm like. And then, like, they started letting me in the. The. Like, the kitchen, and I'm, like, washing dishes, and it is going viral.

[A]

Yeah, you just gopro, man. Put the Ray Ban glasses on and on your guys's nest. Escape from fans. Please think of, like, mascots. You run into, like, a closet door with a camera, and you change into a mascot outfit, bro. Next time, you put mascot outfits in the store and you change real quick, walk outside with a sign and you guys like who you guys want you to see. No, no. But they don't know because everywhere has a bird mascot with insurance. Something crazy.

[B]

And then you gotta have a decoy one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Once they started picking, like, figuring it out. Yeah. It changed fast because they. They're fast. They caught us quick today. The one that caught us, he. He ran track in college. One of my fans, he was a track.

[A]

See, that's what I'm saying. You're faster than your fans. Unless they're a athlete.

[B]

No, that's what he said. I was faster than him.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. You're faster than everybody. Unless they're almost like, iron track for usc.

[B]

I am. You beat me when I had on cowboy boots. I was running it. I was running in jeans and cowboys.

[A]

That's hard. I will say we can go race.

[C]

Outside right now, and I will beat you for real.

[B]

Yeah. Let's do it.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

All right. Thank you, guys for being here. This is the usual podcast. Let's go outside and run. Oh, you're gonna scare the Mexicans outside, man. They're gonna be scared like these two black dudes, man. I swear to God. They're trying to beat me up.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Oh, he fast as hell.

[B]

I want for the record to know. He just fast as hell. You see? Oh, no.

[C]

Y.

[B]

And my shoes untied. No, I ain't going to have no excuse. Hey, watch. He just be fast as hell, too. He. He barely won.

[A]

Barely.

[C]

That was good, though.

[A]

Quick.

[C]

That was good.

[B]

That was quick.

[A]

Perfect.

[C]

Perfect.