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Cris Carter Picks Seahawks To Win Super Bowl, Touts Stafford As MVP + NFL Wild Card Weekend Preview
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Chris Carter. The 2026 Super bowl champions are Patriots versus Seattle.
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Seattle wins the Super Bowl. Sam Darnold gets the monkey off the back ready to flex. Leon is at. You see where it's at, come tune in. We don't stream with a chat. You can Michael Parson get you a sack some of my coverage.
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What's up, guys? Mystic Zach here today honored and privileged to be joined by NFL hall of Fame wide receiver Chris Carter, our only repeat guest.
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How are we doing?
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That's how great you were.
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Oh, that's nice. I like that. I like being the first. That's good.
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Yeah, you're the first. We're doing well. Whenever you have the College Football Playoff and NFL playoffs, special time.
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Absolutely. I mean, you're getting the best of the best, you know, get the best matchups and I mean, there's some great storylines.
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To me, all the blue bloods mainstays that we're used to seeing aren't in it. I mean, the Chiefs are removed, Alabama's removed, Georgia's removed. And we've got the most wide open NFL and college football playoffs we've had.
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Well, absolutely. I mean, you cannot predict for one, Ohio State goes into the playoffs as the favorite. They get knocked off. When you start the NFL season, you already know Patrick Mahomes is going to be one of the favorites. So having him out, also having Lamar out, Joe Burrows out, Vikings out, Lions out, like, absolutely. Like, this is the greatest time for anybody to be able to win a championship in college football. Indiana is the best team in their history. Ole Miss, Miami, the best team since they won national championship, lost in that championship game 25 years ago. So, I mean, you, if you are a sports fan, if you're a gambler, even if you're not a gambler, nothing more exciting than the next five days.
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No. And if you've been following this podcast and you are a gambler, you would have made a lot of money, potentially. I mean, even if you cast a ticket. I picked the Seahawks. I said Super bowl sleepers, 30 to 1.
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Wow.
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Now they're three to one.
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Love it. Oh, yeah.
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Rams, my preseason super bowl pick. Their odds have gotten a lot better. I think those are the two favorites for most people heading to these places. But we're going to get into it. We've got a litany of games. But I want to start with, with this coaching carousel. John Harbaugh, Career 189 and 113 Record for the Baltimore Ravens, a Super bowl winning head coach, all time leader in road Playoff wins to me, I was shocked by this. Fired by the Baltimore Ravens. Maybe I shouldn't have been. What were your thoughts?
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Well, there was enough smoke coming out, even if you start to see the articles the last month. Now, Lamar went through an unusual set of injuries this year. And when you start to hear things like, oh, he was sleeping in meetings. Now I know some of the coaches that coach in Baltimore and there could have been only one coach, and that was Todd Monkin, the offensive coordinator, who they do have like a little riff. He's the only one that would have released some information like that because T. Martin, who's worked with him for a number of years, great guy. I mean, they're like this. And then you could see the last press conference after the loss to Pittsburgh being eliminated from the playoffs. Like he wasn't trying to save Harbaugh's job.
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Yeah.
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So along the way I got no guaranteed money, so you got to give me a new contract. Probably getting 60 million. He should voice his opinion because they have underperformed. Not to Harbaugh's fault, but the last four years, like collectively, offensively, and it hadn't been Lamar, tight end, dropped one last year, Zay Flowers two years ago. The number of injuries that they've had. But this has been a tough year for him. They're going to get a quality coach. I would love to see Baltimore, especially with their overall history, give Brian Flores a chance, have him get a good offensive coordinator to come. He's defense coordinator in Minnesota now, be the head coach in Baltimore, have a sexy offense to go with those defense that he play with, that fan base that they have. So Harbaugh is the number one candidate. He's going to have his choice. The jobs might be.
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Yeah. They say every single team with the head coaching vacancy called him.
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Yeah. This is not like Pete Carroll, okay. Because Pete Carroll, he came back.
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No, it's. It's like Andy Reid.
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I love that. Very good comparison. You can welch your welcome at one place and still be successful and know as long as you keep evolving like Andy Reid once he did and as long as you got a quarterback. So wherever he's going to go. And I hope he goes to the Giants.
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Hope he goes to the Giants. I was going to ask you where are the best spots because to me, the only two that really stand out to me if I was a free agent coach are the Falcons and the Giants.
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I mean, I like the Falcons, they have a quarterback issue, but they redid Kirk Cousins contract. So they're going to be Able to delay that until March. Making a decision. Believe Michael Pence, they have a quarterback of the future. That fan base in Atlanta is very, very similar to the fan base in Baltimore. So I believe that would be an appeal. But ultimately, to me, with the personnel, with the defensive personnel, I'm going to the New York Football Giants. Give me an opportunity to be able to play there in New York. Same kind of element, same kind of gritty team, run the ball, good special teams, great defense and have a chance for Dart as a quarterback, to be a star. So I believe that package right there, got a couple running backs, that package right there. As far as talent, to me, probably wins out. And the tradition, they know how to win a Super Bowl.
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Yeah, I know that's a good hire because I'm a Cowboys fan and I don't like that hire for them.
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After a lot of times, all you have to do as a fan, or even if I'm the fan of one team, people say, in this situation, what would you do? Well, I love when they, they take all the wide receivers off the field and they're playing against my team. Like, this is the type of thing the Dallas is like, no, don't hire him. You know, hire Joe Judge again or something.
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Yeah, something like that. And don't hire Flores either.
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Yeah, absolutely. Yes, yes. If you're a fan, protect your team. Hope they go to a different division.
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Now, what about the Las Vegas Raiders coaching vacancy? Pete Carroll gone. They have the number one overall pick. You would think it's going to be Fernando Mendoza, but still a lot of time there. Tom Brady a minority owner, but the word is he's very hands on in this process. Also looking for an offensive coordinator and potentially a defensive coordinator for. Where do you see them going?
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I mean, I think the Raiders is a good job just because the location that division is uber tough. So you're going to have your work cut out for you. And Patrick Mahomes is going to be playing another 10, 10, 12 years. So that's going to be difficult. The overall distraction in Vegas, I think players have gotten used to that. But, you know, to me, it's the irony to people saying, okay, Tom Brady's going to be hands on. Well, where was he last year? Because he still had the same ownership. Like, did he hire Pete Carroll?
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Seems like he had a big role in it.
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Thank you. So to me, be careful. When the greatest of the greats are involved in management. We have seen some of them through the years. Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, like, this is a tough double if you've been that great to be able to manage talent and that overall work ethic that you can't give to people, you know. So to me, I'm, I'm a little hesitant as far as this being one of the marquee jobs. I think Atlanta, the Giants, I believe, also Tennessee with Cam Ward there. Being a quarterback is another great opportunity. So I believe there are several other jobs that would line up before I took the Raiders job.
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Yeah. And the Titans, I believe, have to go out there and get a floor razor. I mean, that's a team the fans are happy with seven wins next season. There are a lot of coaches that will go out there and do that. A bridge coach that likely isn't going to be there for the long haul, but can at least get you to the next wave and develop Cam Ward, which they need bad.
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No, no, absolutely. I mean, he is the face of their franchise. They have their franchise quarterback. I was really pleased of how he reacted to adversity. He never embraced losing. You could see every game, you could see his overall leadership. And he got better as the season went on. Very durable, said the right things in the press conference. Very, very mature. And that losing, when you come from slinging it like he did last year at Miami, and then you go from losing and you're one of the worst teams again in the NFL, it wears on you. But he passed a lot of tests as far as a franchise quarterback for me.
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Yeah. And he had one of those seasons where you had to actually watch the Titans to evaluate him. You couldn't just look at the box score. You had to watch the game, see what he was doing, some of the plays he was making, the balls that were being dropped was heinous.
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Yes.
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They need a massive upgrade to their wide receiving corps. Tight end, name it, they need it.
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Yeah, they've been crying for offensive talent for a long, long time. But they got to build, support their franchise quarterback.
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Yeah, but they love to pay like 32 year old receivers.
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They, they have not done well in the talent acquisition department, having drafted extremely well. And free agents, even though Tennessee, tax free state, it's probably the least desirable of all the tax free places to go to.
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Yeah, it is. And I mean, you look at other teams, how smart are the Jacksonville Jaguars to go out and get Jacoby Myers? Right. He's available out there. He's saying, I don't want to be here. They go out, trade for him. They go undefeated after they acquire him. So the Titans, I think they did fire the old GM they have a new one, so we'll see how they do. But definitely understatement. Probably one of the league's worst at acquiring talent.
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Yeah. And also what you mentioned about Jacoby Myers. I believe probably the most underrated team in the playoffs is Jacksonville.
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Yeah, we're going to get into that.
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Okay.
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They're on fire.
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Okay. I like them.
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Yeah.
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And they signed them to a long term contract too.
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That was smart too.
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Yes.
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You got to give Gladstone a lot of credit. And by the way, Travis Hunter been on ir, hasn't been contributing.
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Only a bonus next year.
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Who would have ever expected the Jaguars to go 13 and four without the help of Travis Hunter?
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Oh, absolutely.
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I mean, if you would have told me that's the record, that's the finish.
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I would have said, oh, man, Rookie of the year. He's playing both ways. Yes.
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He's doing special teams. He's done everything, you know, and they didn't get any. That's great. Crazy. Let's start off NFL playoffs. The first game perhaps the most lopsided. We're going to get into it. The Los Angeles Rams visiting the Carolina Panthers.
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I like the Rams. I don't like the way they limped into the playoffs, but they match up physically with the best teams in the nfc. You can give Carolina all them points. There's a reason why.
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Yeah.
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You know they're going to have a hard time scoring. I do believe devonte Adams coming back after missing the last three games will be a huge boost to their offense. Puka is unreal.
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He's unbelievable.
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Like un unreal.
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See, league's best receiver.
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Well, this is the thing you got to be careful saying. Is he the best receiver in the league now? He had the best year. Now if you're able to duplicate that, then you like he's in the conversation. As far as the top five best in the league.
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Yeah.
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So now I'm still not going to take him over Chase. I'm still not going to take him over Justin Jefferson just because they had J.J. mcCarthy. No, no. I'm no, I'm no fool, but dude is at the party.
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You're not a J.J. mcCarthy guy.
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Well, who is? Besides his parents and Michigan fans.
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Some weird Vikings fans on Twitter.
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I mean, like, what should we.
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I don't know what they see. I mean, like, can't figure it out.
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I have to compromise the way I've believed in my Vikings. We have had one of the best receiving cores for the last 40 years.
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Yeah.
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Every decade we can throw the football.
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True.
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And then now my guy, Justin Jefferson, and he's doing a better job than I would be doing, doesn't get a thousand yards. Great guy too. On and off the field, he's saying all the right stuff, but trust me, he is not pleased with the overall productivity of the off.
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Who would be?
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That team was ready to win. They spent outlay 150, $145 million in cash.
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Yeah.
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You know, so that ownership is not pleased with that result.
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And now Flores is.
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Well, if he gets a promotion. Yeah, absolutely.
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He's a free agent as well.
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That's the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've agreed that they want to sign into a long term deal, but it, but it is that time. And given the openings, there are not six coaches that deserve a head coaching job more than him.
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Absolutely. Not only Harbaugh would be ahead of him.
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Stefanski.
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Stefanski as well. Yeah. Two time players of the year give.
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Him his overall experience. Yes. But man, if they give Cliff Kingsbury a job, I mean like, I mean, stop, man. Stop playing with me like that ain't right.
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Rams, Panthers go back to it. Los Angeles Rams. Matthew Stafford goes out there, 46 touchdowns, eight interceptions. Leads the league in passing yards. Nakua leads the league in reception. Second receiving yards. To me, been the most unbelievable player on the offensive side of the ball. Snap to snap.
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Right. And you're not going to believe this storyline if we start the season week number one on that Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Is Matthew Stafford going to practice? Hadn't practiced all training camp, missed all the games, limited action. Might need some type of back procedure. And those numbers you just repeated like that, is that finishing it off the right way? That's a Tom Brady type season, in his 40s, you know, like they are a dangerous football team.
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They're the best. I mean, this is a year where it seems like every team stands out either on offense or defense. To me, out of all the top teams, top contenders, the only one that stands out on both sides of the ball, special teams has been their biggest weakness. I mean, they fire the coordinator, that loses them majority of their games. Crazily enough, because the defensive line with Kobe Turner, Pruna Ford, Jared Verse, Braden Fisk up front, they're so difficult to manage. And then the offense, I mean, you name it, they got it. Especially with Sean McVay. So.
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Right. I mean, they struggled down the end, looked a little bit tired, but I'm expecting them to get a boost.
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Devonte Adams back still in the league in touchdowns even though he missed the.
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Last three games and this is a perfect setup for them. It's almost like they're playing James Madison or Tulane, you know, in the playoffs. Get them a win, get the momentum.
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I would say it's the most accurate.
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Comparison you can have and then get ready for that.
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Second, there's nothing dangerous about this Panthers team. No, no, there's not like an X factor thing. I can point to nothing.
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No. Lose the last game of the season backdoor into the playoffs cheering for the 20 rushing yards. Yeah, it's going to be. It's going to be hard for them to be able to match that physicality of what the Rams bring.
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Yeah, it is. Or the coaching or the big plays or the. Yeah. Pretty much match them in any way. Yeah. There's a reason why the Rams favor by 10.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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You might give them the points.
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Yeah, it's dangerous.
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Home, home, home dog like that. Give them the points. Supposed to the weather. See, I'm a weather guy coming from the west coast. Just going to be mild, not chilly, no moisture, no rain.
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I have a feeling Stafford's going to come out hot with those two. I don't.
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Good start, fast start. Let's go Rams.
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Packers at Bears. Third matchup of the season. They split two games that went down to the wire. This is a very interesting game. This is a pick em pretty much. You can bet either way. Who are you going with?
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I like where the Bears are. I like how last week they tried to win the game and were really upset that they didn't win. I love Caleb in the fourth quarter. The issue is what am I going to get from that team offensively for the first three quarters because if it's a tie game or a three point game going to the fourth quarter, I'm going with Caleb like he has convinced me his ability to be able to avoid the negative play with his feet, improvise different arm angles and he is an elite playmaker, you know, in the pocket, out of the pocket. Ben Johnson, what he did with him I think is the best job from a quarterback receiver relationship and kind of, I'm not going to say resurrect but getting your career on the right path and having that right voice in your ear changed. It changed the trajectory of his own career.
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He reinstilled all the reasons why we touted him as such a highly regarded prospect. Yes, we'd almost people the public had almost forgot. Ben Johnson comes in. Now we remember. Yes, the guy outside of the pocket. The accuracy, the arm angles are unbelievable. Perhaps the most talented besides maybe a Mahomes I mean, yes, of the young.
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Quarterbacks, he might be the most talented.
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Yeah.
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And there's a bunch of young, talented ones.
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Yeah. I mean, including the guy in New England who we're going to go over soon.
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Oh, absolutely.
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It seems like to me the, the Bears are in an ascending spot and the packers are descending. They lose Micah Parsons. Since then, the league's worst four sacks. Jordan Love been banged up the last game of the season. Josh Jacobs bottled up bad. I mean, he's obviously injured, struggling out there. The p. The Bears third best rushing offense, lead the league in interceptions. They are very aggressive defensively. To me, I think they control the game, run the ball, get a key turnover, win this game.
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I, I like Jordan. I love, I love, Love as a, as a quarterback, but I like coming out throwing the football. I do believe that you can throw the football and eliminate the turnovers. Now, Chicago, multiple, multiple turnovers in all the big games. Can you continue to generate those in the playoffs? Two biggest things that create wins is the turnover margin in big plays. I do believe that Green Bay can make those big plays and not turn the ball over. I do believe it's going to be a very, very close game. And I wouldn't say that because Michael Parsons is injured and they haven't played as well in December, that Green Bay is descending as an organization because next year they're going to be one of the super bowl favorites.
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But they're not going to make it the whole season.
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Yes, but, I mean, but that they get that tight end back, they got salary cap space. Like, this is a very good young team. And just like the Vikings, just like the Lions one year, man, you don't know where you're going to be at in this division. They were both going for 14 wins last year. Now they're trying to fight for nine wins. So, you know, you got to fortify your team. But I do believe they say Leflore.
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Is in the hot seat if they lose this game.
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I mean, people have been saying that, but, you know, Green Bay is very patient. Like you can't put your finger on. Okay, this guy right here is going to fire him, you know, because the community owns them.
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So actually I'm part owner.
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Okay, that's nice.
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Proud. Yeah.
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Okay. Guess what? You ain't got no say. You just like everybody else. You know what I'm saying? So I think that they typically do it in a very. They know their football, too.
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They do.
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Like, he has not done anything that deserves being fired.
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No, absolutely not.
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I mean, the quarterback's 27. Like, why would you get rid of them? They seem to have a good vibe together, good chemistry together, and the team is ascendant. You just made the Michael Parsons trade.
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Yeah, you did.
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Like, you haven't even seen all that matriculate and everything. So. No, let's be a little patient. Green Bay fans, including yourself.
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All right, all right. I mean, you might not.
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Ownership, including yourself.
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Tough to see him because the guy's making, you know, 47 million a year and he's out for all of next season. 2. It just seems like, I don't know, it seems like it took a little bit of wind out of the packers sails.
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No, no, absolutely. Like you can't trade for a guy like this.
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I mean, and you don't have first round picks.
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Now. I, I mean, remember the Reggie Wright trade, which propelled them right into greatness. Like, you are not expecting them to make one of the legendary trades in NFL history and then not lose it. But guess what? When you lose him, you also lost, you know, Kenny Clark.
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Yeah, you did.
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But the players in the locker room know that Michael Parsons is the best player. So you lose some juice. Like, you lose some belief. You lose some faith in how good you were. Because that first month of the season, they. They believe they could beat anybody.
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Yeah, they did. And Kenny Clark would be nice to have against Chicago at Soldier Field.
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Oh, my goodness.
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He would be really nice to have. Also we spoke about the packers young nucleus of talent. I love the Bears. I love what they did in the draft. Acquiring Manangai in the fifth round. A running back. He's been a nice one two punch with Swift. And then Luther Burden, third in the league in yards per route run behind Smith and Jigba and Puka Nakua. He's been a revelation. I think he's special.
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Yeah, he's played better than. Than the kid they drafted in the first round two years ago.
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Yeah, yeah. A dunes, right? Like Burden. Special to me.
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Yeah. And he's been hurt and you know the combination between him more number two. Like, like they can put some pressure on your defense.
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Yeah, they can.
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Offensive line, give them time. And with Caleb's feet, you know, I watched him play live against the Vikings and trust me, man, he's worth the price of admission. There were four or five plays where the Vikings had him nab and somehow he got out. Yeah, he's a magician, you know, so not only does he avoid it, but he goes on the attack after avoiding those sacks, trying to throw the ball down the field.
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So accurate. He's more accurate moving than he is standing.
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Oh, dangerous. Keep him in the pocket.
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Keep him in the pocket for sure. Yeah. Contain him.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah. Don't let him outside. Yeah, he is so dangerous outside of the pocket. Also Colson Loveland, the tight end, him. And you mentioned the Green Bay tight end. Probably my two favorite young tight ends.
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Good level, dynamic. He's a Green Bay. I mean, he's a Michigan guy too, right?
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Yeah, he is.
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Yeah. Yeah. Good tight end.
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Yeah, they picked.
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Yeah, they produced some good tight ends. He's really done well and he fits well into their system.
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God, did Ben Johnson, that draft man.
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Johnson's a great coach.
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Yeah, genius.
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Great, great coach.
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Real genius.
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Yes.
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49Ers at Eagles. This is an interesting matchup here. We got two NFC mainstays.
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Which Eagles team's going to show up?
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Ah, is it the one that showed up this season or is it the one that just won the Super Bowl? Because the one that showed up this season is the only NFL playoff team that was bottom 10 as far as passing goes. And Saquon Barkley averaging 1.8 less yards per carry in the previous season. We cut his yards in half.
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What I typically do, because Philly and especially their offense, they get all the attention. I'm watching my man Jalen Carter. I'm watching him, and after he was out for a month, every game he's been in since the Comeback, they are a different team. They are a championship defense.
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They are.
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So for me, they can win the super bowl just like they won last year's Super Bowl. But this team is totally different than last year's team. Offensively, they were so much better, but that defense is a championship defense. Offensively, I don't see them all of a sudden getting explosive after really struggling all year. No, I look for them to continue to struggle offensively, play a tight game. I expect them to be able to win, but only because the 49ers got half a squad.
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They do.
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Like, they got so many top notch players. And it really speaks to Brock Purdy, how good he's gotten, and Kyle Shanahan, how good of a coach he is.
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Yeah, I mean, Shanahan's absolutely in that conversation of elite coaches. And Brock Purdy, I mean, when he goes down and Mac Jones comes in, was probably the most disrespected player in the NFL. I had people tell him he's not a top 20 quarterback. Like, what film have you watched? I think we're disregarding everything he's done just because he doesn't have any special measurables and he was Mr. Irrelevant. We got to see what the guy's doing. He's the best quarterback the Niners have had post Kaepernick in that one special post.
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B
Absolutely. And when he's in the lineup, they win.
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A
Absolutely.
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B
They win a lot of games. They, you know, they're a different team. And there's a different scenario if he doesn't get hurt in that Philadelphia game, you know, a couple years ago, like Brock Purdy has proven all the doubters, all the naysayers to be wrong. At some point, even if you were on that corner, you got to be able to look at it and be like, this guy gets an NFL game and guess what? He's always come. The game is not moving too fast for him.
- [23:36]
A
Nope. And he can move a little bit. I like Purdy.
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B
Absolutely.
- [23:39]
A
And he's got the swag and the team's behind him. And I like everything about Purdy.
- [23:42]
B
He getting a little loose. I like that. Yes. His personality is really starting to evolve.
- [23:46]
A
Yeah, I think the Niners can get behind that. But the Eagles, I mean you speak about that defense held the Buffalo bills to 12 points. We just saw that performance. Held the Detroit Lions to 10 points. Held the Green Bay packers to seven points. I mean these are special performances.
- [23:59]
B
Absolutely. I mean when you look at the quarterbacks, okay, not only hold them teams, but he held the best quarterbacks that we have in the league under that type of. So even a struggling, you know, offense can stay in the game. Good special teams going to keep you in the games. But when they're doing that, they're doing it one way and they're whooping them up front. They are, you know, and that right there can carry you to back to back Super Bowls. Offensively. You know, I don't, I don't know about A.J. brown. I don't know what he's going to say next. I know Barkley is not as healthy as he was last year. I know the offensive coordinator is not as good as the one last year and I know the offensive line is not as good.
- [24:40]
A
But Lane Johnson's back though.
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B
Let's see how that works out. Let's see if it changes the attitude because you should be trying to come out and play smash mouth football if Lane Johnson is healthy. So let's see, let's see how they attack. Especially that first 15 minutes of the game. That would tell a lot.
- [24:56]
A
It's going to be tough to play at Philly in game the a tough. It's a Tough environment.
- [24:59]
B
Yes.
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A
Yeah, yeah. I picked the Eagles.
- [25:01]
B
Yeah. To go in there and beat him in the playoff. No, no, no, I'm, we, we're, we're pointing out all these things, but we're not crazy. We, like, still take the Eagles.
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A
Yeah. Bills at Jaguars. We touched on the Jaguars. You said the most overlooked team heading in this playoffs. Tell me why.
- [25:18]
B
Well, people don't know their defense is a top 10 defense. They don't see. They don't, they don't. They watch the NFL, but they don't watch Jacksonville. Like, so you're not going to give them credit. And Trevor Lawrence has always underperformed for people, so they think, oh, he's still the same guy. When you turn the tape on, he's a different dude. He is like, he. You can see all of the physical attributes that. Why he was the number one quarterback coming out of high school, why he was the number one quarterback coming out of college. After three years at Clemson, national championship and the first pick in the draft, like, you can see them. And Liam Cohen, like him or not, man, he's got these guys believing that they are as good as anyone in the e. Anyone in the league. Look at the resume, look where they've won. Look at the games, who they've lost to. Like, Jacksonville is going to be my surprise team.
- [26:16]
A
Good teams win, great teams cover. They are beating the head hell out of teams, smashing them, I mean, obliterating.
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B
When they smash them, guess what the commentary goes to? How bad that team was compared to how bad Jacksonville made them look.
- [26:32]
A
Yeah.
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B
Like it never, never after the game. None of the commentaries, none of the stuff, the talk shows, the podcast. No one's like, wow, man, Jacksonville. Now we give other teams credit for making teams look bad, but we don't give Jacksonville the benefit of the doubt.
- [26:47]
A
None. None at all. And those first round defensive picks that they were paying for, all of a sudden looking really good. Your Trayvon Walker's, your Devin Lloyd's.
- [26:55]
B
Yes.
- [26:55]
A
Looking a lot better.
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B
Yeah, they do. They do. And they've put together the back end of that defense, Bill. Support the front end. But if you can't score any points, Jordan Lewis, if you can't throw the ball, you know, now they have a complete team and they got one of the best kickers in the league.
- [27:11]
A
Oh, yeah, the guy can drill from 67, bro.
- [27:14]
B
When I get to midfield, you can start warming up, man.
- [27:16]
A
That's a huge competitive advantage.
- [27:18]
B
Yes. Especially playing in a warm climate. Been able to, man, if I get 15 yards, I can kick a Field goal.
- [27:26]
A
That's dangerous.
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B
That's unbelievable.
- [27:28]
A
Yeah, 35 to the 50. You're there.
- [27:29]
B
And so guess what? Even late in the game, okay, you kick it off. No problem. All right. I'm going to fair catch it, man. We get two first downs, you lose. Yeah, you do two first downs, you lose. So that right there is a huge weapon that will definitely play out in the playoffs.
- [27:45]
A
We haven't spoken about the Buffalo Bills yet, but the team revolves around one man, Mr. Josh Allen. Been the most consistent quarterback this decade. I had some trials and tribulations in the playoffs. Obviously come up short in big games, specifically against the Kansas City Chiefs. We see him here against the Jacksonville Jaguars. A lot of people kind of have. I don't want to use this word again, but panned him for his platforms. The guy's got 32 career playoff touchdowns and seven turnovers. At some point, the blame can't be on him. You got to maybe point fingers in other directions. I don't know how you feel about that, but as far as quarterbacks heading into this playoffs, I'm most confident in Josh Allen, if I'm the Buffalo Bills, and what he can do to overcome perhaps the talent discrepancy between the Jaguars and the Bills, because it's there. The Jaguars are a better football team. Yes, I would feel. I would feel really good with Josh Allen under center now.
- [28:35]
B
I feel good with Josh Allen to center, but this is not a game he's going to win. It don't mean I don't believe in him. This is the worst team Josh Allen's had in the playoffs. Yeah, he's had a lot of success, but his success in the playoffs is a lot like Lamar. Well, Flowers drops the ball going to the end zone. The tight end dropped it. You know, their defense can't shut nobody down.
- [28:55]
A
Nope.
- [28:55]
B
They couldn't stop anybody from running. Like. And they bumped into Patrick Mahomes. So those aren't excuses for Josh Allen's play, playoff record. Those are. Those are real things that really happen. But this team is not those teams, you know? So for me, this is the least likely opportunity. Even with Lamar gone, Joe Burrow's out, Mahomes at the crib. This is like, because the team he's.
- [29:18]
A
With, it just seems like the stars align for Josh Allen.
- [29:21]
B
No, sir.
- [29:22]
A
When you saw all those guys go.
- [29:23]
B
Out, I got it. Because there's no stars on the team. I mean, Keon Coleman, the receiver, like, have you been listening? Have you seen his demise? Like, I mean, not that guy. He got the same number of catches as me the last month of the season.
- [29:37]
A
I might rather have you out there.
- [29:38]
B
I mean. Well, guess what? I'm not going to make myself look foolish, and I'm not going to say anything. Foolish.
- [29:43]
A
No, exactly. You know, be a good locker room guy.
- [29:46]
B
Yeah. I mean. I mean, he has failed them miserably because they needed him to step up. Up like they needed him to be a number one guy. He's not even a number three guy.
- [29:57]
A
No, he's not.
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B
Like they were looking for him to be number one out of Florida State, and he's not a number three. And that's a problem.
- [30:02]
A
Yeah. I wonder if. Now it seems like hands are already being pointed at the head coach, Sean McDermott. They say his seat might be hot if they lose this game.
- [30:12]
B
You know, this is the only thing I really worry about, Sean. I lose. I worry about if they lose in an embarrassing way. And also the ownership there, they're moving into a new stadium next year. So if they wanted to make a switch before they move into the new place because of the way they finished the 2026 season, like, all the things line up for that. We're going into a new building. Do I want him, you know, to be in that building? And then now you got to be careful with Harbaugh out there. Yeah, you do, because Adam Schefter. And as long as Adam Schefter is reporting on the. On the NFL, if he predicts rain, go get an umbrella. Okay. And he immediately said he announced that the. Harbaugh was fired. And I think at the time, he said there were six NFL teams, but Harbaugh had eight teams call his agent. That mean the six, plus two didn't.
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A
Have a coach, the Dolphins.
- [31:15]
B
Okay, so two of them that had a coach.
- [31:17]
A
Yeah.
- [31:18]
B
So I would be careful. And if I'm a head coach somewhere, man, I'm not. I'm not looking beyond the next day. Because with him out there, you could lose your job to him because of his overall resume and ability to be able to build a program and put a winner on the field.
- [31:33]
A
No. And that's exactly why John harbor is waiting to do his interviews.
- [31:39]
B
Really? I didn't hear that.
- [31:40]
A
Yeah, he's waiting to do his interviews. He wants to. He's looking at these packers and Bills games very closely, I would say.
- [31:46]
B
Okay, I like that. And also, I think that it's probably in his best interest to wait for Miami because they're probably in the last few days of selecting a general manager.
- [31:56]
A
Yeah. They are also If I was the Buffalo Bills owner, I would take a good look, hard look at the general manager there. Just because how have they not filled that wide receiver gap since Stefan Diggs leaves? You're doing Josh Allen no favors here.
- [32:09]
B
I mean they have missed several times.
- [32:11]
A
Several.
- [32:12]
B
I mean either trade for a veteran guy or draft a guy in the first round.
- [32:18]
A
You couldn't go get devonte Adams at some point. He was available for trade then and free agency. You couldn't go get Jacoby Myers the trade deadline. I mean they're just not getting the impact.
- [32:26]
B
I mean I think catchers, I think they could have made the trade Dalton.
- [32:29]
A
Kincaid in the first round.
- [32:32]
B
Good pick, we thought on paper his ability to be able to run with the ball. But is he going to be able to stay healthy? I think the bigger problem drafting than drafting players in Buffalo has been their overall like strength and condition and nutrition. Man, they got a lot of guys hurt, man, the last several years, I mean I'm talking about veteran players in key positions hurt. Not this year, not last year, but several years of it. So that's something, you know, to me I always, I like to look at, you know, team, you know, systematically who has a bunch of injuries year after year after year. And that's what we see in some teams. And you have to gut the strength and conditioning department.
- [33:12]
A
Well, look at the 49ers and the Baltimore Ravens. Yes, it's bad over there.
- [33:17]
B
Great, great, great examples of teams that they're. The sports part of science is failing. The general manager, the X's and O's part and that fan base like they deserve better. But you have to do a better job of predicting when guys are going to get hurt. It's a collision sport. All right, everyone's got injuries. But when you got three and four times the number of injuries as your opposition, you're doing the wrong thing.
- [33:43]
A
You are the next game, Chargers at Patriots. Patriots surprise of the season. Start the season. When we did our podcast, they were 01. They had lost the Las Vegas Raiders who now hold the number one overall pick. Their Vegas over under on wins was six and a half. They were a team that everyone had counted out even with second year star Drake May. They've come all the way back. They're 14 and three. They're the number two seed. They get a home game here at Foxborough. But the naysayers have come out and said they had the easiest schedule of the 21st century. Let's see what happens when they play a real team. What are your thoughts on this New.
- [34:18]
B
England Patriots squad, any quarterback that is not proven. That's the commentary. They don't even do any homework. Oh, he's young. It's just like Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold. What's he going to do? Oh, there's no way. He win 14 games again. Oh, well, Sam Darnold, he can't win the playoffs. Well, he won 14 games again. They're the number one seed. So if you look at the quarterbacks, man, like, I mean, who's got a great rep in the playoffs besides Mahomes? Joe Burrows, who's got a great Jalen.
- [34:47]
A
Hurts. It's hurts. Yeah.
- [34:48]
B
Who else?
- [34:49]
A
Nobody.
- [34:50]
B
Everyone else has to prove it, so.
- [34:52]
A
Oh, stop.
- [34:53]
B
Like, like, let's do a little homework, though.
- [34:55]
A
Yeah.
- [34:55]
B
Like, let's not put that like that kid. 72% completions this season. That kid is a superstar. He is getting the best out of Stefan Diggs. The other scene, booty on the other side, making him into a star player. That running game, his overall athleticism. And I'm a huge fan of Mike Vrabel. I knew that if he had the resources when he got a second attempt compared to Tennessee, that he was going to win. And he's doing it in a big way. This is a team too, man. You have to watch out for their future. They got about 54 million in salary cap.
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A
Oh, yeah.
- [35:30]
B
Available like this team, not only have they won big this year, they should win big for the next couple years.
- [35:37]
A
And they've got the pieces on defense as well.
- [35:39]
B
Yes.
- [35:40]
A
I mean, it starts with the cornerback, Juan Christian Gonzalez. You line him against anyone, you feel pretty good.
- [35:44]
B
Absolutely, yeah. Great athlete. And he was sitting there not getting the attention. Now he's on a winner. People can see. Oh, man. Like, they really did well and drafted him.
- [35:53]
A
Yeah, yeah. Picked after Emmanuel Forbes. And you speak about Mike Vrabel to me, one of the absolute best head coaching free agents we've had. I mean, the fact that that guy was sitting on the open market post tennis, it's crazy. How do you fire that guy for Tennessee?
- [36:06]
B
Well, man, after you leave Tennessee, man, you, you, you get a stench on you. And I think that there were some things available and what happened was the last hiring cycle, it worked out better him not getting a job.
- [36:19]
A
It did.
- [36:20]
B
Because then Belichick decides to. Well, Kraft decides that Belichick's going to be over. And then it was the perfect fit. You know, it's kind of like his stepson. Kraft has a great deal of respect for him. He knows the New England way. Bring him in there. Great relationship with the owner and the owner's family. And you see them getting it turned around, their overall attitude. I love watching the mic'd up segments. I love watching him after the game. I love how he interacts with all the players. Like, you don't have to play this game to coach it and coach it well. But he's one of the guys that has the lightning in the bottle, played at a high level and can coach and lead at a high level. Lot of respect for him.
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A
Yeah, he's gotten the best out of his players since day one.
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B
Always everywhere he's been.
- [37:10]
A
Yes, yeah, absolutely. The other side, Los Angeles Chargers. There's a lot to talk about here. You got Coach Harbaugh. Been to a Super bowl before. Hot shot head coaching candidate Jesse Mentor defensive coordinator. Done a great job with this defense. They've got a lot to like there. Their biggest glaring weakness, and it's a very obvious one, is the offensive line. I mean, they ranked dead last or second to last in every available metric. Rashawn Slater goes down, Joe Alt goes down. They, they got five guys who are, I, I, I would say they have a juco offensive line, you know, and they have a four Right. Quarterback.
- [37:43]
B
Right.
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A
So it's, it's tough sledding on offense at times, but they also have the weapons at receiver when you look at lad McConkey and some of these other guys. So how do you view them heading into this matchup because they were team that's lacked playoff success.
- [37:54]
B
Well, this is the thing. You, you have to be happy they're in the playoffs. If you look at that division, Kansas City is home and we're playing.
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A
Yep.
- [38:01]
B
Now, Denver didn't expect them to win the division. Home field, but no problem. We're also representing the AFC West. I believe they have to shorten the game. It's not his typical model of how he's going to win, especially with Herbert the quarterback with those uber skills. But I got to shorten the game because I got less personnel than them. Like this offensive line. You are not supposed to lose. All pro left tackle. All pro right tackle. And life's supposed to go on. You're not supposed to be in the playoffs.
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A
Nope.
- [38:28]
B
You know, so their future. Yeah, their future looks bright. And their ability to play that hardball style and be physical, it looks bright, but not this weekend. I mean, they are limping into the playoffs. Bad matchup for them. I don't expect them to advance. But they still had a good season. Season number Two good season for him to build on. Get those guys back healthy next year, continue to add more personnel. Like they're going to build it in a physical way. But, you know, I expect Harbaugh, you know, in, in LA to win consistently with that quarterback over the next five years.
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A
Yeah, I think, yeah, you just got to get that left tackle and that right tackle back healthy. I'm not Greg Roman at times I don't think has had the greatest game plans and scheming around the losses on the offensive line, but it's a tough task.
- [39:15]
B
I'm not a lover of Greg Roman.
- [39:18]
A
Me either.
- [39:19]
B
Like I'm. I mean, he's been successful, but overall creativity and the way they attack the defense and always thought there's plenty other ways people be more aggressive, more practical and utilize the talent around him, you know, don't. Don't love his system either.
- [39:37]
A
I'd look at Charlie Weiss Jr. Ooh, photographic memory.
- [39:42]
B
I mean, he's one of the hottest coaches. He's got a high moral compass, higher than Lane Kiffin because he's like, I'm coaching all the way, man. I don't know what these dudes are doing, but I'm coaching all the way. So a lot of eyeballs are going to be on him. And he could shock the coaching world a lot like Sean McVay did. All right. You know, coaching family been around it, his mindset, leadership. A little more nerdy than McVeigh. McVeigh, way cooler than him. You know, Charlie Weiss ain't got no athletic ability. You know, my man McVeigh, little receiver, little slick hair and everything. Got a little look, go vibe to him. A little yoked up, you know, so a little bit different, but I do believe same results. You know, kind of a up and coming offensive mind that you should know about. If you're in the business of hiring coaches, you're in the business of knowing football. Charlie Weiss Jr. Should be on your radar.
- [40:40]
A
Absolutely. And fun fact, when I was on the FAU coaching staff as an intern under coach D.J. mcCarthy, I was 16, I think he was 25. So I got the in person look. Yeah.
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B
Okay. All right. Yeah, yeah.
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A
The photographic memory is real.
- [40:54]
B
Yeah. Be careful. When I was at Ohio State, they hire a graduate assistant who was a defensive back. They moved him to the wide receiver coach, Urban Meyer.
- [41:06]
A
There you go.
- [41:06]
B
Like, be careful. With humble beginnings, they can turn out to be uber great. So Charlie Weiss Jr. Is going to have a great, great coaching career.
- [41:15]
A
Absolutely.
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B
I hope he stays in college football though.
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A
This last game I have a. I have an interesting opinion on. I think we might differ here. Texans at Steelers, big time matchup. Texans league's best defense. Steelers get in the playoffs.
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B
Let me go first.
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A
I want you to go first.
- [41:32]
B
This is the kind of game. This is like Muhammad Ali's last fight. Mike Tyson's last fight. Tommy Hitman Hearn's last fight. Like, stuff guys that legendary that we followed them, but in that 23rd hour, not the best. Showing this defense against Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers. I believe if he survives the game, that would be a victory. Like, this is not the mat. You talking about a mismatch as far as what demeco Ryan's is trying to do. The violence for which they play with, the fastness for which they play with. You saw them struggle against Cleveland.
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A
They did.
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B
Like, and it wasn't just Miles Garrett, like, they struggle as an offense. You had. DK Metcalf will come back, but to me, he's not a consistent enough receiver to take over the game. And they got the best corners in the NFL. The pair.
- [42:31]
A
Oh, yeah.
- [42:32]
B
Like, they got the best pair. So this is not the game that he's getting ready to dominate.
- [42:35]
A
They caught a lot of flack for taking Stingley over Sas Gardner, but we've seen Stingley's last couple of seasons. What did you think of the DK Metcalf and grabbing the fan from the stands?
- [42:45]
B
Well, the number one thing is I'm here to do a job. Like, I'm an entertainer, and there is no way you're going to get me off of doing my job. And why would you be concerned about what the fans are saying that. And if you were in Detroit last season in the same fan had you upset, like, man, I don't care. He could talk about my mama and my sister, everything he. You'd be like, hey, man, your mom's this. I'll be like, yeah, she probably is a. Your sister, too. They probably are. But I'm still getting ready to go out here and get these balls. Like, I ain't getting ready to come over with you. You paid money to watch me play. Yeah, okay. I'm out here making DK. I think he makes 1.7, 1.9 million a game.
- [43:31]
A
He does.
- [43:32]
B
Okay, so who's the fool? All right. You got a wig on. I'm out here in my gear. Have you seen my body? Have you? So I'm getting ready to go over to your office where you're sitting and engage in a conversation. Very, very immature. Yeah, very immature. And the league hit him right where he need to hit him. Two games. Sit your back.
- [43:53]
A
Avoided his guarantees. Luckily, the Steelers didn't agree.
- [43:55]
B
50 million. Thank you, thank you. Thank good to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
- [43:59]
A
Yeah.
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B
But he did something that could alter his life and his family's life, his kids life, the legacy of it forever. Just by engaging a fan. I expect fans to say negative things about me. I expect that if I go over, I'm going to engage only in words, man. Like, how do I win? By reaching up and grabbing one of the fans. Like, that's the reason why we make all this money. The reason why we do podcasts like this, because these people cannot consume enough of the content. So we can't have guys like that. Hall of Famers. We was like, listen, man, don't get arrested this off season. Hey, man, we need all the marketing, all the deals, because once they put one of us in the paper, it's all of us going in there. So let's take care of each other. Hall of Famer, former players, current players. People love to say it. Oh, man. Former player. Like current player. It's not necessary, man. You've already won.
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A
Yeah.
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B
He's paying money to watch you play at your job. I would have told the dude, man, I don't come to Popeyes with the grease back there, all right? So don't be coming to my job messing with me.
- [45:10]
A
I agree wholeheartedly. I. I couldn't believe he did that. I mean, this isn't a rookie. This is a. This is a veteran second team. You liken the Pittsburgh Steelers? Aaron Rodgers to an end of career Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Tommy Hearns. I liken them to what Manny Pacquiao just did at age 47 when he fought Mario Barrios, the current sitting champion, to a draw. I thought Pacquiao arguably won. I think the Pittsburgh Steelers are a bad matchup here. They're the home team. They won the AFC North. I think the quick passing game helps offset the Texans pass rush. And I love this defensive line with TJ Watt coming back and Cameron Hayward up front. He bats a lot of balls down.
- [45:44]
B
Yes.
- [45:45]
A
I think it's going to be a tricky game for C.J. stroud and the Houston Texans. I think the Steelers win this game.
- [45:50]
B
Really?
- [45:50]
A
Yeah.
- [45:52]
B
Okay. Me and you might have to make a little personal way.
- [45:54]
A
Yeah. Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh Steelers.
- [45:55]
B
I mean, your track record picking games is way better than mine, but I like it's going to make me watch this with more intent.
- [46:02]
A
Feeling the Tomlin magic.
- [46:03]
B
Yep. But when Ali Fought that last fight. I had magic. I was like, man, he going. He going to pull it out. He going to put it.
- [46:08]
A
Why do people pick Mike Tyson over Jake Paul?
- [46:11]
B
That too. That, too. Okay. Like, those last fights don't go well, man.
- [46:16]
A
No, they don't. Aaron Rodgers.
- [46:18]
B
Mike, you know, there is no exit strategy in the NFL, man. There ain't no way to get out. It's hard to get in, but it's harder to get out.
- [46:24]
A
It is.
- [46:25]
B
He's gonna get knocked out. Last game, last call, last a rock.
- [46:30]
A
I think they're a bad matchup. I don't know.
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B
Just like screaming to me, okay, I got you. I'm not gonna mess with that big brain you got. All right. I respect it.
- [46:39]
A
Chris Carter. The 2026 Super bowl champions are.
- [46:44]
B
Well, first of all, let's. Patriots versus Seattle. Seattle wins the Super Bowl. Sam Darnold gets the monkey off the back. Had an incredible season. What they're doing defensively doesn't get enough attention. And they can play physical like they can run the football. You cannot win super bowl championship without being run the football. New England can run it. Good defense going to get them there. Seattle wins it all in Santa Clara.
- [47:19]
A
We get a Patriots Seahawks rematch.
- [47:21]
B
Yes.
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A
Seahawks win. I love it. I've got the Los Angeles Rams. They were my preseason team. I'm just going to stick by a Matthew Stafford. So dangerous. Puka Nukua.
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B
Yeah. There's two teams. Philadelphia and the Rams match up with Seattle. But the game being in Seattle and them having to play that extra game, I believe it gives them the edge.
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A
I have a tough time seeing the Denver Broncos or New England Patriots beating the Rams or the Seahawks.
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B
Okay. Yes, I could go with that.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Because they're challenged offensively.
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A
They are.
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B
They're not consistent. Yes, I could see that. Yes.
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A
That's where I think the NFC ends up the. I think we both agree the NFC wins the championship.
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B
Stronger.
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A
Yeah, they're stronger. I mean, it's almost. This year. It's been like the NBA at the Eastern. The Western Conference.
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B
Okay. Yes. Not quite as bad, but not quite as bad. But there's better. Yes, they're better. Nfc, let's go.
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A
Well, the Broncos and the Patriots, the two weakest schedules of the 21st century on paper. Pretty weird.
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B
You know, to me, I don't get into strength of schedule as hard like college. It means more than the pros. The pros, it's already.
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A
Everyone's so damn good that it's not as important.
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B
And you're getting six games in your division. You can't. You can't dictate what that is.
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A
Yeah, no, you can't.
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B
Like, and you know those six teams are going to play you tough. Then, you know, you got a number of other games. You got four other games in the other conference. You're not picking them. It's not like you. Like, you're Indiana. It's like, oh, man, I'm going to play, you know, I'm going to play less desirable teams earlier so I can pad my record. No, it's the NFL. And if you win 13, 14 games, you cannot be a bad. It's impossible to be a bad football team and win that many games. 13, 14 out of 17 in the NFL.
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A
Yeah, pretty good. There's one last guy I want to ask you about. He's not in the playoffs, but I would be remiss if I didn't ask you. The fans want to know what are your thoughts on quarterback Shador Sanders, his first season in the NFL?
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B
I thought he did well. And, you know, behind the scenes, I kind of knew a couple little things. I kind of knew that Stefanski, you know, he. I think he's married to the daughter of Tim McCarver. And when Tim McCarver got doused by Deion Sanders in the baseball when he was Commentary, like, in life, man, people don't forget. And then that takes me back to the draft day conversation in the general manager and the head coach. I had never seen anyone get drafted and them not smile. Like, deliberately, like they were not smiling. And then we went through this whole shucky ducky stuff. And then he says, oh, no, he's never gotten any first or second team reps at training camp. Like, whoa. Like, man, are they trying to sabotage his career? So the way that he was able to stand up now, he put himself in that position because if he redid the whole interview process, he would do different. And I'm sure his first couple weeks In Cleveland, driving 100 miles an hour like that didn't show well. There's certain things that as a franchise quarterback, you can't do. He learned well, but I do believe that he earned himself the chance to try to be the starter next year, like, depending on who that coach is with a fresh start, like, he deserves the right to be an NFL quarterback. He showed enough. Just like all the other rookies. He showed enough that he should get a good look. To me, him and Deshawn Watson are starting off one and two as my quarterbacks next season. Like, I still believe that Sean can Get back in there and still be a starter.
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A
MVP race. Matthew Stafford. Drake May. Who would you vote for?
- [51:05]
B
You got to go with Stafford. I mean, before the season, we didn't even. We didn't know. Missed all the training camp. Is he going to play? Is he going to practice the first Wednesday of the season? Didn't know. And it's a back, you know, old guy with the back. Matthew Stafford, I believe had the best season of his career. Given. Given the circumstances.
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A
I agree wholeheartedly. I'm sorry, Aunt Nettie.
- [51:25]
B
I mean, he is one of the purest throwers that we have seen of the football. A lot like Elway, a lot like Marino, a lot like Farve. And his different arm angles. Like, he's such a showman. He's a great leader. His teammates love playing with him. I'm a Matthew Stafford fan.
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A
I mean, that. No, look past in the Super Bowl.
- [51:47]
B
Oh, my God.
- [51:47]
A
That's got to be a top five third NFL history.
- [51:49]
B
Yes, yes. And he can do it with the best of him. It's not bragging. It's just that it freezes the defense. You have no way. And very few people in the league are able to do this over the 100 year existence of the league. And he has mastered some of the skills that make him special.
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A
Absolutely. Before we go, anything else you want to get off your chest? Anyone you're mad at? Anyone you want to talk about?
- [52:11]
B
Oh, no, no, no, no.
- [52:12]
A
Not any enemies?
- [52:13]
B
No, no, I got no enemies.
- [52:14]
A
No ops.
- [52:15]
B
We come in love. We come in. We create in peace.
- [52:17]
A
All right, the drip check. Got the hall of Fame jacket on. I like it.
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B
Oh, yeah, just. Just normal. Yeah.
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A
Light flex.
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B
Yeah. Hey, man, it is what it is.
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A
Yeah, we got.
- [52:26]
B
I live in Florida, but I sleep in Canton.
- [52:29]
A
Absolutely. Chris, we appreciate you. Honored to have you on for the second time.
- [52:34]
B
Thank you, bro. Looking forward to appearance number three.
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A
Let's go.