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Episode: DeSean Jackson on Hurts & AJ Brown, Chip Kelly Fallout & Why the New Kickoff Rules Suck
Hosts: N3on & Mystic Zach
Guest: DeSean Jackson (Former NFL star, current Head Coach at Delaware State)
Release Date: February 14, 2026

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This episode dives into DeSean Jackson’s unique perspective as one of the NFL’s most electric playmakers and a first-year college head coach. The conversation covers his coaching journey at Delaware State, reflections on his playing days—including the fallout with Chip Kelly in Philadelphia—and deep analysis on the latest NFL developments, like the contentious Eagles locker room dynamics, the evolution of the receiver position, new kickoff rules, and recent playoff surprises.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Super Bowl & NFL Playoffs Reactions ([00:32]-[02:20])

• DeSean felt the Seahawks-Patriots Super Bowl was boring and low-scoring, likening it to the old Pats-Rams matchup.
  • "It was kind of boring, bro...I'm sitting there like, man, when is somebody gonna score?" ([00:36], DeSean Jackson)
• Felt the NFC was far superior this year; noted Bo Nix's injury late in the game as a turning point.
• Now that the season's over, Jackson reflects on how quickly football ramps up again, no matter how long the off-season feels.

First Year as College Head Coach ([02:20]-[04:29])

• Jackson’s Delaware State debut ended with an 8-4 record; he describes the excitement and anxiety of coaching after a long playing career.
  • "I could never predict me to be a head coach in college, but I mean, you know, it kind of fell on my lap, man, and, you know, I'm having a great time doing it." ([02:58], DeSean Jackson)
• Biggest surprise: how eager players are to learn and improve, and the gratification of seeing that growth translate.
• His coaching style is modeled after player's coaches—focused on relatability, accountability, and realism.
  • "The coaches that I loved playing for were the coaches that could relate to the players...I ain't gonna crucify you, but you gotta own up to it." ([03:46], DeSean Jackson)

Influences & Reflections on Coaching Careers ([05:10]-[07:39])

• Cites Andy Reid as the greatest coach he played for, appreciating his tough love and understanding of his upbringing.
  • "He was like a father figure...he can't do it for you, you gotta drink yourself." ([05:16], DeSean Jackson)
• On Reid’s success in Kansas City: Knew he’d win big, especially with Mahomes, but still regards Tom Brady as the true "GOAT."
  • "He’s going to show you how it’s done and he’ll teach you as well..." ([06:35], DeSean Jackson)

Unique NFL Journey & the Chip Kelly Fallout ([07:48]-[11:36])

• Jackson’s longevity as an undersized deep threat: transformed perceptions of receiver size in the league.
  • "I invented a different type of style in the NFL...they started giving a lot more people opportunities because of that." ([08:03], DeSean Jackson)
• Discusses tumultuous end with Eagles and Chip Kelly’s approach—a more collegiate, rigid atmosphere, and intrusive analytics.
  • "You're asking somebody that's a five, six year, seven year vet to put on a heart monitor at night...I'm not doing that." ([11:10], DeSean Jackson)
• On getting released: "They just felt like they had to go a different direction." ([11:29], DeSean Jackson)

Eagles vs. Cowboys Rivalries & NFC Landscape ([11:36]-[14:53])

• Dallas/Philly rivalry dissected; memorable vendettas and Thanksgiving games.
• On Jalen Carter-Dak Prescott spitting incident: Carter was provoked ("Dak originally spit first...that's a form of disrespect." [11:51], DeSean Jackson)
• Playoff expectations for the Eagles: remains bullish on team’s talent and GM Howie Roseman’s ability to reload.
• Recognizes young Cowboys receivers, praises George Pickens’ “dog mentality.”

Hurts & A.J. Brown Dynamic—What’s Next? ([14:53]-[19:17])

• Acknowledges growing rift between Hurts and AJ Brown, unsure if relationship can be fixed.
  • "It's a relationship that's kind of been tarnished...that's gonna be something they're gonna have to fix internally." ([15:03], DeSean Jackson)
• Predicts possible offseason shakeup—AJ Brown might be traded.
• Advice for star receivers frustrated over targets: when your number’s called, frustrations can’t lead to poor play.
• Critiques AJ Brown’s infamous act of bringing a book to the game:
  • "I would be like, bro, you trippin, bruh...for three hours, you can lock in and worry about your opponent." ([18:28], DeSean Jackson)
• Philly is a tough market—fans and media can magnify drama if play slips.

Hurts’ Leadership & Professionalism ([19:17]-[20:37])

• Hurts described as a consummate professional, a proven winner; notes tension may be about differences in approach and style, not just personality.
  • "Jalen's a winner. He's proven that." ([19:34], DeSean Jackson)

On the New NFL Kickoff Rules ([20:57]-[22:49])

• Both Jackson and other return men hate the new kickoff rules; think they take excitement and strategy away.
  • "I just feel like that ain't it, man...it takes the fun out of the game, man." ([21:04], DeSean Jackson)
• Points out physicality and risk are inherent in football: "If you gonna get hurt, you gonna get hurt."
• Lawrence Taylor's advice: the game is safer when everyone goes full speed.
  • "If they got a cold, they ain't practicing, man...you gotta be able to play through some shit." ([22:54], DeSean Jackson)

Playing Through Pain & Career Longevity ([23:18]-[24:44])

• Only one surgery in 15 NFL seasons—on a groin hernia—almost made it through without any.
  • "That was my only surgery in 15 years, man." ([23:56], DeSean Jackson)
• Played through a bad thumb injury rather than have it fixed.

Favorite Receivers & Current NFL Stars ([25:02]-[25:56])

• Jackson’s current faves: Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, JSN (Jackson Smith-Njigba).
• Gives thoughts on playful media mispronunciations and Marshawn Lynch's comedic license.

The Seahawks’ Surprising Run & RB Debate ([26:18]-[29:47])

• Shocked by Seattle’s rise (Sam Darnold, Coach from Baltimore, and breakout RB Kenneth Walker).
• RB market discussion: unwilling to put Walker on the same financial tier as all-around backs like CMC or Saquon.
• Debates Bijan Robinson vs. Jahmyr Gibbs: both get high praise, but he leans Gibbs for explosiveness as a receiver.

Catch Rules, Refereeing, and NFL Conspiracy Theories ([29:56]-[33:39])

• Rams and Bills had key games affected by questionable calls.
• Jackson feels catch rule is frustratingly inconsistent between field and end zone; calls for standardization.
  • "If it's gonna be one way in the field, it gotta be one way in the end zone." ([33:15], DeSean Jackson)
• Dismisses outright conspiracy of rigged games but sees ref influence as undeniable.
  • "Referees doing certain shit...It’d be like, crazy little things to be going on in the game." ([32:10], DeSean Jackson)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Andy Reid: "He was like a father figure...you gotta drink yourself." ([05:16])
• On Chip Kelly: "You asking somebody that's a five, six year, seven year vet to put on a heart monitor at night...I'm not doing that." ([11:10])
• On the New Kickoff Rules: "It takes the fun out of the game, man. So I feel like hopefully the NFL recircle and change that rule back." ([21:04])
• On Philly fans: "If you ain't doing good, you're gonna hear it...they gonna boo your ass for sure. It's a hard place to play in." ([17:48])
• On player toughness today: "If they got a cold, they ain't practicing, man." ([22:54])
• On NFL conspiracies: "All those years, I never knew anything about anything being rigged...from a player, but the refs can rig it." ([32:00])

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Super Bowl Reactions/NFL Playoff Landscape: [00:32]-[02:20]
• Jackson on Coaching/Delaware State: [02:20]-[04:29]
• Favorite Coaches & Andy Reid: [05:10]-[07:39]
• NFL Career & Chip Kelly Fallout: [07:48]-[11:36]
• Eagles/Cowboys Rivalry: [11:36]-[14:53]
• Hurts/AJ Brown Drama: [14:53]-[19:17]
• Special Teams & Kickoff Rule Critique: [20:57]-[22:49]
• Career Longevity/Injury Stories: [23:18]-[24:44]
• Favorite Current NFL Receivers: [25:02]-[25:56]
• Seahawks Playoff Run & RB Market: [26:18]-[29:47]
• Catch Rule & Conspiracy Theories: [29:56]-[33:39]

Tone and Personality

Candid, honest, and often humorous, DeSean keeps it “real” on every subject—sharing stories from his upbringing, his attitude as a coach, and calling out things he dislikes about today’s game. Mystic Zach guides with insightful questions, often adding light-hearted jabs, especially about his Cowboys fandom. Their rapport brings out both deep analysis and playful trash talk, delivering a lively, insightful episode for football fans seeking both substance and entertainment.