WEEK 16 PICKS & PREVIEW + TALKING JAKE PAUL VS ANTHONY JOSHUA

Summary

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DOUBL3 COVERAGE PODCAST — Week 16 Picks & Preview + Jake Paul vs Anthony Joshua

Hosts: Mystic Zach & Jake Paul (with guest D-Cup, Team Paul/Fmr NFL)

Date: December 20, 2025

Episode Overview

This action-packed episode, live from Miami in the midst of Fight Week, dives into the lead-up to Jake Paul’s blockbuster bout against Anthony Joshua — a historic event streaming on Netflix. The conversation blends inside access to Jake's camp with candid NFL Week 16 predictions, memorable football anecdotes, hot takes on quarterbacks and teams in turmoil, and plenty of locker-room energy. The show captures the transition in pro football and boxing, touching on legacies, underdog stories, and the culture around the games.

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Main Segments & Key Insights

1. Jake Paul vs Anthony Joshua: Camp Stories and Mindset

(00:31–07:52)

• The Weight Class Jump:
  Jake, his team, and Mystic Zach recount the shock of switching from prepping for a 135lb fighter (Tank Davis) to facing the 6’5” heavyweight juggernaut Anthony Joshua.

  • “We get hit with a total 360 change... My mind, everyone had a different mindset.” — Jake Paul [02:05]
  • Team Paul’s motto: “Anyone, anytime, any place.” [01:41]
  • Immediate scramble for sparring partners, including heavyweights like Lawrence Okolie, who delivered a black eye early on.

• Real Sparring, Real Stakes:

  • “Nah, give Jake your all. Don't hold back. This isn’t a game... He's fighting Anthony Joshua.” — Mystic Zach [02:55]
  • Jake's hunger in camp: “He’s hungry for this shit... I’ve seen him take the power... be on his last little bit of energy.” — D-Cup [03:26]
  • Training was even harder than the fight: 12 rounds with rotating heavyweights, conditioning for an 8-round match.

• Proving the Critics Wrong:

  • “No matter what the outcome is, you can't say a word about his heart or what he's here to do in the sport. Clearly he's willing to fight the best.” — Mystic Zach [04:30]
  • Praising Jake’s work ethic and marketing but emphasizing it’s not just for show: “He gives everything he's got day by day in and day out.” — D-Cup [05:14]

• Predictions & Stakes:

  • "Someone's going out." — Mystic Zach [06:30]
  • Heavyweight is a different sport: "One zig when you should've zagged is lights out." [06:52]
  • Jake: “I don't think anyone's going out cold. I feel like there's too much on the line.” [07:29]

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2. NFL Nostalgia & The Old Chargers

(08:11–10:39)

• Reminiscing about the Chargers era with Philip Rivers, LaDainian Tomlinson, Antonio Gates, and Darren Sproles.

  • “Those were insane teams. We could never get past the Colts.” — Jake Paul [09:12]
  • Fun fact: Quentin Jammer’s pre-game ritual — “He was like, every game I was blacked out.” — Mystic Zach [08:50]

• Discussion of older QBs thriving in today’s NFL: Rivers, Brady, Rodgers — “Old guys are in.” [10:46]

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3. NFL Longevity, Training, & Sidelined Careers

(10:50–13:29)

• D-Cup reflects on still having "the itch" after camps with Jake Paul: “Dude, I’m... I still got it. I’m doing the feet work, doing the ladder drill.” [10:50]
• Breakdown of strength and conditioning changes for Jake, transition to Larry Wade as lead coach, and importance of steady sparring partners.
• The value of workout partners: “A lot of boxers don’t have that... it’s so important.” — Mystic Zach [11:37]

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4. Training Philosophies Across Sports

(12:32–13:29)

• Debate on self-coached athletes in boxing vs. football.
  • “Boxing is like the one sport you definitely need a trainer. You cannot self-train as a boxer.” — Mystic Zach [12:32]
  • Some football positions allow physical “freaks” to thrive with less technique, but boxing is too technical.

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5. NFL Week 16 — Picks & Playoff Scenarios

(14:02–26:53)

Chiefs Dynasty in Decline?

• “I’m the biggest Chiefs hater... I just get tired of the same people winning. I love an underdog story.” — D-Cup [14:06]
• Both hosts speculate Travis Kelce is retiring: “I think we saw Patrick Mahomes throw his last pass to Travis Kelce.” — Mystic Zach [15:12]
• Mahomes-ACL, aging roster, and Andy Reid’s possible retirement signal a “five-year reset.” [16:03]

Quarterback Carousel & Future Stars

• Old stars (Rivers, Brady, Rodgers) discussed.
• Denver’s Bo Nix, Dart, Drake Maye (emerging QBs) [18:25–18:51]
• Jake Paul's brief football career recollections and advice to up-and-comers (Tua, Mariota) about leaving Hawaii for national programs [19:18–21:21]

Tua Tagovailoa's Future & Tyreek Hill

• “If he takes one more hit, he's probably going to be a vegetable.” — Mystic Zach [21:21]
• Dolphins may have to attach a draft pick just to trade Tua.
• Tyreek Hill’s recovery and athleticism: “He’s like 5’10, not tall at all, standing windmilling... This guy’s an alien.” — Mystic Zach [22:22]

Shadour Sanders and the College-NFL Pipeline

• Hard to judge Sanders due to poor supporting cast; debate on college recruiting strategies [23:05–24:28]
• Cleveland Browns quarterback struggles referenced as a warning.

Bears vs. Packers Showdown

• “This game is going to be insane... The winner probably wins the division.” — Mystic Zach [26:13]
• Picks: Zach takes the Packers; D-Cup switches to the Bears [26:52]

Ravens vs. Patriots

• “I'm going to have to go Ravens... It’s something about that black and purple, man.” — D-Cup [27:09]
• “This is Lamar’s legacy...” — Mystic Zach, but takes Patriots +3.5 for the spread [27:30–28:16]

Steelers at Detroit, Colts at San Francisco

• Steelers’ inconsistency compared to the Cowboys and old Chargers teams [28:31]
• Lions picked to win [28:53].
• Philip Rivers’ MNF start with the Colts against a tough San Francisco squad — Colts praised for the run game but face an uphill battle [29:31].

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6. Rap Music & Athlete Crossovers

(30:11–31:36)

• Who Shiesty, 2C (rapper) rumors going back to college football; debate whether Jake "could do it" (“You are better than 2C... Jake runs good routes.”) [30:32–30:45]
• Fantasy scenarios for Jake to try NCAA football with FAU, Ohio State, or Hawaii.

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7. Drip Check Segment: Fashion Breakdown

(31:47–33:07)

• D-Cup’s fit:
  • “Shirt like $500... Fashion Nova, Mary belt, Lululemon on the draws... exclusive New Balances, one of a hundred. Louis bag, Plain Jane Rolly, Cuban on.” [31:53–32:47]
• Mystic Zach:
  • “Platinum, iced out on the watch, Supreme AF1s.” [32:50]
• They banter about who started the “drip check” tradition on sports podcasts — Mystic Zach claims to have pioneered it before Cam & Mase. [33:11]

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8. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “He was coming through, no older than probably 16, man was coming through fresh... he was manifesting this, you talked about this way back then...” — D-Cup giving Mystic Zach his flowers for early hustle and vision [33:37–34:41]
• “Good energy, fight week, we got the fight coming up... Let’s go, man.” — D-Cup, sign-off energy ahead of Jake’s fight [35:14]

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “My mind, everyone had a different mindset...we, we warriors, we're battle tested.” — Jake Paul [02:05]
• “Nah, give Jake your all. Don’t hold back. This isn’t a game...He’s fighting Anthony Joshua.” — Mystic Zach [02:55]
• “He’s hungry for this shit...I’ve seen him take the power.” — D-Cup [03:26]
• “He gives everything he’s got day by day in and day out.” — D-Cup [05:14]
• “One zig when you should’ve zagged is lights out.” — Mystic Zach [06:52]
• “No matter what the outcome is, you can’t say a word about his heart...” — Mystic Zach [04:30]
• “I think we saw Patrick Mahomes throw his last pass to Travis Kelce.” — Mystic Zach [15:12]
• “Old guys are in. I might have to make a rerun.” — D-Cup [10:46]
• “Boxing is like the one sport you definitely need a trainer...you cannot self-train as a boxer.” — Mystic Zach [12:32]
• “He’s like 5’10, standing windmilling… I’m like, this guy’s an alien.” — Mystic Zach on Tyreek Hill [22:22]
• “You are for real. Historian, bro...and creative...people don’t give you your flowers, bro.” — D-Cup to Mystic Zach [34:15]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |---|---| | Paul vs Joshua, camp stories | 00:31–07:52 | | NFL nostalgia: Chargers, Rivers, etc. | 08:11–10:39 | | NFL longevity, training | 10:50–13:29 | | Training philosophies, self-coaching | 12:32–13:29 | | Chiefs, QB transitions | 14:02–16:56 | | Week 16 Picks: Bears, Packers, Patriots, Ravens, etc.| 25:06–29:54 | | Rap x sports crossover (2C to NCAA) | 30:11–31:36 | | Drip Check | 31:47–33:07 | | D-Cup giving Mystic Zach his flowers | 33:37–34:41 |

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Final Thoughts

This episode fuses the seriousness of elite fight prep with the humor and memories of pro football culture. You get inside stories from Jake Paul’s camp mere days before the Joshua fight, honest NFL commentary, and bold Week 16 picks. There’s banter, fashion, reflection, and energy laced with legendary sound bites and gratitude. An episode as lively and unpredictable as the sports themselves.

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Transcript

[Jake Paul]

Let's go. All right, all right, all right.

[Mystic Zach]

Come on.

[Jake Paul]

You see where it's at. Come tune in. We on stream with a chat. You can Michael Parson get you a sack some of my coverage. Dion Sina back like a Ricky. He'll be yelling, cook you a lock up. Eat it for dinner. We double coverage initially after.

[Mystic Zach]

What's up guys? Mystic Zach here. Welcome Back to episode 10 of Double Coverage. Today we're kicking it off in Miami and we have a special guest, co host, my guy, Team Paul member, former NFL player, D cup.

[Jake Paul]

What's up man?

[Mystic Zach]

What's cracking bro? How are you?

[Jake Paul]

Good, bro. Appreciate you having me, man. It's a lot of energy. Fight Week. We know, we know. Mystic Zack always show up. Fight week.

[Mystic Zach]

Always, always, never missed one.

[Jake Paul]

Shit. Eight years.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah, eight years. Eight years. So yeah, started getting real cool with Jake when I was in high school. Kept it up from there. Told him he could be a real pro boxer kind of before anyone else did. And we went from Gib in Miami like kind of fighting out of a club co main event to now Jake versus Joshua Netflix. Probably 100 million viewers. Crazy, crazy, bro. History, History.

[Jake Paul]

History, bro. You actually a part of history. You've seen the whole.

[Mystic Zach]

We all are.

[Jake Paul]

Yeah.

[Mystic Zach]

And everyone who's in, in Miami right now for this event, in my opinion, is a part of history. What are you thinking when Jake tells you I'm going to fight this 6 foot 5, 250 pound, two time heavyweight champion, Olympic gold medalist, Man, I think.

[Jake Paul]

Like all of us, everyone on the team, it was like an excitement, but like, you know, you don't want to be fearful like Team Paul. That's what we stand on, you know, anyone, anytime, any place, you know what I'm saying? So we live and die by that.

[Mystic Zach]

So you're in camp for someone who's fighting 5 foot 5, 135 pounds exactly. And Jake does a 180 and he fights a behemoth.

[Jake Paul]

This is crazy. And it's like in the. So in the midst of that, we're losing weight, we're cutting weight, we're getting ready for tank, you know what I'm saying? We gotta, Jake's on a different diet, we gotta make weight. And then it's like we get hit with a total 360 change, you know what I'm saying? So it's like my mind, everyone had a different mindset. I mean of course, you know, we, we warriors, we're battle tested. We've been the underdog plenty of times. So like it wasn't a question to us. It was more so, like, the timing. I think the confidence level jumped right up. Right after that. We know how Jake is. He takes it very serious. Boom. The next day, we're getting sparring partners on the phone. We got the top guys on the phone.

[Mystic Zach]

And no, immediately, I get a call from Frank Sanchez, manager. They're like, jake just called me a spar. I'm like, let's go. He's like. He's like, well, like, how should we handle it? I'm like, give Jake your all. Like, don't hold back.

[Jake Paul]

Yeah.

[Mystic Zach]

Like, this isn't a game. You know what I mean? They're like, well, like. Well, like, we don't know. I'm like, no, go all out. Yeah. Don't spare any punches. Like, this is real, for real. He's fighting Anthony Joshua.

[Jake Paul]

So got to give him the real deal. Got to give him a real taste of what's going on. And I think, like, with Jay Leon. Jay Leon being a, you know, pro and third being a pro, they were in these sparring partners, ears straight up. Nah, nah, Give them the real deal today, you know, the first week. Lawrence Okoli. Boom. Gives Jake a black eye, bro.

[Mystic Zach]

We're like, oh, shit.

[Jake Paul]

And Jake ate that shit. He rolled with the. You know, it wasn't like, oh, shit. I'm. Yeah, I'm fighting heavyweights now. Like, I don't know how I feel. Like, it actually amped him up. He got a taste of it, and he was like, nah, give me more rounds. Third's, like, trying to switch the guys, and he's like, I want him. Nah, keep him in there. Like, he's hungry for this shit. And so it was good, man. We had a good rotation of guys coming in and out. I think everyone, you know, the guys would come after practice. I went. I went full out today. I really tried to give Jake his all. He's showing me something. Like, everyone was kind of open about telling how it is. And even after sparring, even if the guys got the best of Jake, they would, hey, this is what you need to do. And the next day, we come in, his tools getting sharpened. So I'm excited to see what he can do. I've seen him take the power. I've seen him, you know, hold up. I've seen him be on his last little bit of energy. And, you know, we're sparring three different heavyweights, rotating in for 12 rounds. You know, we're doing more than what the fight is, just so he has that extra Conditioning. I think this bout's going to be eight rounds.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah, eight rounds.

[Jake Paul]

So it's, it's going to be, it's going to be good.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah. I think no matter what, he's disproved everyone because at first it was, well, Jake's not going to fight a real athlete. Then it was Nate Robinson. Then it's like, well, he's not going to fight someone who knows how to fight. So then he fights an MMA champion and like, well, he's not going to fight someone with power. Then he fights Woodley. Then they're like, well, he's not going to fight someone his size. Then he fights Silva and they're like, he's not going to fight a boxer. Then he fights Tommy, and then the list goes on and on. But the fact that he accepted a fight against a guy half a foot taller than him with four times experience, you know what I mean? Two time champion, Olympic gold medalist, I think speaks volumes. No matter what the outcome is, you can't say a word about his heart or what he's here to do in the sport. Clearly he's willing to fight the best.

[Jake Paul]

100%. 100%. I mean, you've seen it. His mindset, his work ethic, he's just different, bro. He's just wired different. He's, you know, he gives the world what they want. As far as like a marketer, he's one of the best at marketing in the world. But as far as work ethic, it goes hand in hand, you know, like, it's not just like he's creating these viral moments and just trying to sell tickets and then like at the house, just like hanging out. Yeah, no, he's giving everything he's got day by day in and day out. And then, you know, he lives in the moment when the cameras are on. He lives in the moment. I'm gonna give you what you need to get so you can tune in.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah. And that hard work, obviously you being a strength conditioning coach, you would know better than anyone about the work he puts in. But I've been telling people for years about how determined he is and how hard he works outside of the ring.

[Jake Paul]

It's insane, man. Yeah. I mean, far, it's inspiring, inspirational to everyone around him.

[Mystic Zach]

And you've been around NFL guys in weight rooms, you've been around the best of the best. He's on par with those athletes, right?

[Jake Paul]

100%. I mean, he, he has better work ethic than some of the guys that are in the NFL right now that I played With, I mean, he's just different. It's just. He wants it. He sets his goals and whatever he has to do to do it.

[Mystic Zach]

Jake versus Joshua.

[Jake Paul]

Joshua, bro.

[Mystic Zach]

Judgment day.

[Jake Paul]

Judgment day. What is your prediction?

[Mystic Zach]

Someone's going out.

[Jake Paul]

Someone's going out.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah. Yeah. Obviously Jake's got heavy hands. We've seen that. We saw Woodley go flat in his face.

[Jake Paul]

Yeah.

[Mystic Zach]

Knock out of the year. And we've seen what Joshua can do as well. So there's a lot of danger for Jake here, but I think someone's going out. It's heavyweight. You know, in the Tyson fight, Jake carried him. It's heavyweight boxing. See, heavyweight boxing. I was saying this heavyweight boxing might as well be a different sport than any other weight class. It might as well be table tennis. To tennis. Because one punch can put anyone out. Yeah, no, it doesn't matter. It's a totally different sport. One zig when you should have zagged is lights out. So. And we've seen that throughout Joshua's career. When he fights Andy Ruiz, nobody gives Ruiz a shot. Ruiz knocks him out. Right. And then Joshua, we've seen him put guys out cold. So it goes both ways. His last fight, he gets knocked out. Like, it's really gladiator stuff. And it's kill or be killed at heavyweight. Yeah.

[Jake Paul]

I'm thinking we get a knockdown in there and we get the win, but I don't think anyone's going out cold. I feel like there's too much on the line. I feel like it's almost like how Wilder woke up.

[Mystic Zach]

Inferior fury woke up.

[Jake Paul]

I feel like God forbid. But if they think Jake going out, I'm telling you, he gonna rise up.

[Mystic Zach]

I've never, I don't think any other opponent Jake has had, like, even if they landed flush, you know what I mean? There's never been anywhere near this type of danger. And Jake knows that.

[Jake Paul]

Yeah.

[Mystic Zach]

You know, we're not going in blind. If Philip Rivers can come back after five years, retired and almost beat the Seattle sucks at Seattle, then anything is possible.

[Jake Paul]

Anything's possible. Speaking on that Philip Rivers, man, what a legend.

[Mystic Zach]

Legend.

[Jake Paul]

Legend, man. Like growing up, you know, I'm, I'm an LA LA kid. So we didn't have a team, you know, we had, you know, we had to drive down to San Diego, so. Lt Philip Rivers, that was my go to. Man, I got the bobblehead still.

[Mystic Zach]

Antonio Gates.

[Jake Paul]

Antonio Gates. Darren Sprouls.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah.

[Jake Paul]

You know who else we have? Who was our receiver back then? We had, we had, we had some special Teams. We had Kareem Osgood. We had some crazy people on the Chargers back then, man. That was Quentin Jammer.

[Mystic Zach]

Quentin Jammer, who said he drank and got drunk before every game. Did you see that?

[Jake Paul]

I never seen that.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah, he just said that on Twitter. He's like, every game I was like, blacked out. That's on the sidelines. He was drinking.

[Jake Paul]

That's crazy. Did Cromartie ever come to the Chargers?

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah, yeah. Cromartie was there. He was a monster.

[Jake Paul]

He was a monster. And.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah. Yeah. One of 16243. Yeah. So the Chargers were number one offense, number one defense, missed the playoffs every year. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Jake Paul]

Every year I would.

[Mystic Zach]

Those were insane teams.

[Jake Paul]

I believe we could never get past the Colts, man.

[Mystic Zach]

We added Antonio Gates on the pot and he was talking about that, like, how disappointing, like, to have all that talent. And it never came together at the right time.

[Jake Paul]

Never did. I remember one time we got to like, the second, third round playoffs, and it was like, Steelers came in, took that, Troy Palomalu, those guys. Like, it was.

[Mystic Zach]

It was. AFC was just a bloodbath.

[Jake Paul]

Yeah, man.

[Mystic Zach]

You had the Patriots, the Colts. You had Big Ben Brady, Pton Manning. Like, that was crazy. You don't have that anymore. We don't even have 4,000 yard passers. Those guys were all passing for 5,000 yards. Like, easy, no problem.

[Jake Paul]

Do you think that Philip Rivers actually. Is that still elite? More better. Like, he's that elite.

[Mystic Zach]

Well, I think just the fact that he is so well versed in the playbook because he. So Stein, the Colts head coach, was his offensive coordinator with the Chargers, so he knows the offense really, really well. He talks to him every week. He's been coaching ball, so he's an experienced thing. Yeah. And then I. He came in, almost beat Seattle. He didn't make one mistake. No turnovers, no sacks. And I think that's what the Colts wanted. Yeah, like, we just want someone to take the reins. Complete, like third and four. You know, I'm saying, like. Like, make the right read but not take us out of the game. Yeah. Which is what these young quarterbacks probably would have done. Like, and Tom Brady said, you know, you give him 30 days, he's going to come back and, like, dominate. Right now at 48, he stood on it.

[Jake Paul]

I know 100. Tom Brady would definitely come dominate.

[Mystic Zach]

Rogers is 42. He's killing it for the Steelers.

[Jake Paul]

Rogers is crushing it.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah. I mean, old guys are in.

[Jake Paul]

Old guys are in. I might have to make a rerun.

[Mystic Zach]

Bro, making you itch or what?

[Jake Paul]

For sure. I'm not going to lie. Like, after some of these camps with Jake, I was like, dude, I'm. I still got it. Like, yeah, we play a little football here and there and I'm, I'm doing the feet work, doing the ladder drill. You know, we make sure Jake is big on feet work. We go to the track, we're hitting the ladder, you know. Shout out coach Larry Wade. You know, I was Jake's strength and conditioning coach for the first six fights, and then after Tommy, we had a couple coaches changes. I took a little break and then I came back and shout out Larry Wade. He's the new strength and conditioning coach. So when I came back, you know, I do do strength and conditioning coaching with Jake, but I. I'm more of a workout partner now.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah.

[Jake Paul]

So I've been there every step of the way, every.

[Mystic Zach]

More pushing him, more pushing him, getting.

[Jake Paul]

The reps in every. Every workout, I'm right there doing the exact same thing.

[Mystic Zach]

It's. It's crazy that a lot of boxers don't have that. It's so important.

[Jake Paul]

It is.

[Mystic Zach]

If you look at Lance Armstrong, they pay guys just to bike next to him so he can keep the pace up 100%. Like, that's their entire job. I know someone that was his job. So he was hired and he was a biker. And for a lot of the paces, the laps, he would keep up in front of Lance and give him the, like a good pace to get to. And then he would drop off and someone else would go. Who would want to do a fight camp, like, by, you know how lonely that would be like, to like, you. You walk out and no one says anything. You just go and do like, that would suck.

[Jake Paul]

So, yeah, it's. And there are guys like that. I know there are partners just pop out. We're like, where's your coach for the sparring partner?

[Mystic Zach]

Sometimes, yeah.

[Jake Paul]

They're like, I don't got no coach. I don't got some guys like it. Like Raymond Ford. I had a question. I was talking to him during camp because, you know, different guys brought there and he was like. I was like, man, you're young. Like, who's coaching? He's like, I coach myself. I coach myself. I'm like, Raymond Ford.

[Mystic Zach]

That cannot work long term. Boxing is like the one sport you definitely need a trainer. Like, you cannot self train as a boxer. There's no way football, like, you might be so athletic. Some of those guys, like Ziggy Ansa from Africa, comes in he's like 19 years old and just dominates because he's 6 foot 5 to 50. You know what I mean?

[Jake Paul]

Yeah, you got those freaks for sure. In football. I mean, it's, it's not as.

[Mystic Zach]

Sometimes technique isn't as important for like the super.

[Jake Paul]

For the position.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah.

[Jake Paul]

For a position, you know, like obviously quarterback.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah.

[Jake Paul]

You're going to have. You got to have.

[Mystic Zach]

But running back, like hold the ball tight.

[Jake Paul]

High and tight, you know. That's why you got some of these guys, they come in the NFL and like, they're, they're amazing. But then they got these weird. They're fumbling. They got.

[Mystic Zach]

Because. No. And then the fans would be like, well, why isn't he in? And they don't understand. He just blew his pass protection on third down and got the quarterback like hit hard.

[Jake Paul]

Well, how do you feel about the guys that are boxing when a coach.

[Mystic Zach]

Is like, I would not advise that. No, it doesn't sound great. Maybe like Floyd, like if Floyd came out of retirement now and like just trained himself, you don't need that. Yeah. He's like boxing sensei, so he might be able to do it. But other than Floyd, I don't think. I don't know of anyone. Even Pacquiao, like still has Freddie Roach, you know? Yeah. Like, even the guys that have done it all, been there with anyone in any weight class and know everything there is, they still coach. Yeah. Gotta have a trainer for sure. Uh, Patrick Mahomes are the Chiefs is like, how done are they?

[Jake Paul]

It's crazy, man.

[Mystic Zach]

They might have to take like a three year reset.

[Jake Paul]

I'm the biggest Chiefs hater, by the way. So this is amazing for me to talk about. I just, I'm. And it's not like I hate the Chiefs. I. I just, I'm one of those guys that get tired of the same people winning. I love an underdog story. So it's like same with no hate to Tom Brady. But it's like that Patriots run. It's like, all right, after the fourth super bowl, you're like, damn, do I want to go to the super bowl party this year? Like the Patriots fans, you got the bandwagoners jumping on. Like, everyone's a Chiefs fan now. Now we're gonna see who the real Chiefs fans are. All you, Patrick Mahomes. Oh, Patrick. Now he's hurt. Going to see. I don't want to hear you talking about. Oh, no. I always love Jaylen Herz. I always thought he was a good. You know how those fans switch up So I just think the Chiefs, man, right now, it's just the team is amazing. Obviously they talented. They're always going to be talented. When you got a guy like Travis.

[Mystic Zach]

Kelce, bro, I don't think he's going to play after this year. I think we saw Patrick Mahomes. Sorry, next year, I don't. I think we saw Patrick Mahomes throw his last pass to Travis Kelce.

[Jake Paul]

You think Kelsey's calling the quiz?

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

[Jake Paul]

He's going to pull a grab.

[Mystic Zach]

I'd be shocked if he came back. Yeah.

[Jake Paul]

I mean, those tight ends, they do.

[Mystic Zach]

He's getting married to Taylor Swift. Like, get out. They're not going to do anything. There's no way.

[Jake Paul]

What about he goes and gets another contract. Go get some more money somewhere else. I mean, you can't never knock that.

[Mystic Zach]

You could knock that. But like, I think, I think Kelsey's done. I think Mahomes has got a rehab from his acl. I don't know how long Andy Reid's going to stay. Like the Chiefs dynasty, I think is crumbling in front of us. I mean, even the Patriots went years. And so Tom Brady tore his ACL in his eighth season. It's like very the same thing as Mahomes. And they went like a good half decade without before that Seahawks, super bowl, you know, great run.

[Jake Paul]

I mean, they've had some great.

[Mystic Zach]

So the Chiefs might have a five year reset here.

[Jake Paul]

Five year reset. They're going to go with the, the Pats reset.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah, they might have to do the Pats reset and I don't know. Listen, for Mahomes to be compared to Brady, you got to get back to that mountaintop like a few more times, which is the hardest thing in sports. And I don't think he's gonna have Kelsey. I don't know what they're gonna do.

[Jake Paul]

I love what Brady came and did in Tampa, so.

[Mystic Zach]

And in Tampa.

[Jake Paul]

I love what Brady did in Tampa. Like, that's where my respect level because, you know, I was, I was a, I was a Patriots hater. Like, like I'm not a Brady hater. It's like I'm not, I'm not a, I'm not a Patrick Mahomes hater. I'm a, I'm a Chiefs. I'm tired of seeing that red and yellow every year. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I love what they have going on there. I love the trades they make. I love how they bring different people in. I love Hollywood Brown coming in there. I love how they do certain things to like make it seem like you don't know. You don't think they're going to be that good this next year. And then all of a sudden they're back in the Super Bowl.

[Mystic Zach]

Oh, yeah. When they got rid of Tyreek, I mean, the fact they won two Super Bowls without Tyreek. Outrageous.

[Jake Paul]

Outrageous.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah. They outperformed every expectation. But I think with Mahomes hearing his acl, Kelsey being the age that he is, Andy Reid being the age that he is, we're going to see a whole new Chiefs and the bandwagons, let's see if they stay.

[Jake Paul]

I always tell Jake, I say, Jake, you're physical, you're aggressive, you need to play safety. But he thinks he's a juju. Smith Schuster.

[Mystic Zach]

Juju Smith Schuster had like 1200 yards at like 22 years old. But I guess current day juju not the same. Yeah, I mean, but he blocks. He does his thing. He's. He's a thing.

[Jake Paul]

That's what Jake. Jake thinks he can block good. Know, be a utility catch, a catch a little out. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. When? After this boxing run. Jake said he got about three, four. I mean, yesterday. Said he's old. He called everyone on stage old. But we'll see, we'll see if he makes that run back to, you know, maybe him and Patrick will come. Come back at the.

[Mystic Zach]

I got the wide receivers, coaches for him, we got coach D.J. mcCarthy, we got Chris Carter right here at FAU. You don't have Mahomes in the playoffs. Lamar might not be in the playoffs. Let's see. Burrow's not in the playoffs.

[Jake Paul]

I'm telling you, it's a new game. And that's what's crazy about this new game with Philip Rivers coming back. And it's like the game's fast now. We gotta hurry up. They're barely getting in the huddle now. They're barely putting it under center. They're barely getting an eye from it. It's all spread.

[Mystic Zach]

There's one man left standing out of all the quarterbacks to me, that's Josh Allen. So there's no excuses for him this year. You gotta go out there and win the Super Bowl.

[Jake Paul]

Drake. Drake.

[Mystic Zach]

May was Drake, Maya monster.

[Jake Paul]

You got, you know, he.

[Mystic Zach]

He's doing it. And then stafford in the NFC 36.

[Jake Paul]

Another young guy that just stepped up.

[Mystic Zach]

This year, Bo Nicks for the Broncos.

[Jake Paul]

Bo Nicks, he is. They don't lose Believable then even, even, even, you know, he didn't get the best end of the stick. He didn't have Malik neighbors with him this year. But Dart Dart is having a.

[Mystic Zach]

He's a savage. The Broncos having that home field advantage in the playoffs in that altitude, they might be really dangerous. I mean, like, I've been thinking, like, yeah, they're not going to do it, they're not going to do it, they're.

[Jake Paul]

Not going to do it.

[Mystic Zach]

But if they get the one seed and you got to go to the altitude and they just got to win two games, you might see Denver in the super bowl like this. There's no better path than this year. When Mahomes tears, the ACL Burrow's not in it. Lamar might not be in it. Like, this is your shot.

[Jake Paul]

So here's a little history about me. So I went to University of Hawaii and you know, I was undrafted free agent to the Saints. Gotta be with Breeze and them. And then undrafted free agent, released within three days, got picked up by the Cowboys, got to play my rookie season with the Cowboys, undrafted free agent, was released by Game 2, played with Dak, got a good experience, you know, but then it was like only two games in the NFL. My rookie year, I'm cut, I'm released. It's like, oh my God, what am I gonna do in my life? Then I ended up doing the CFL and doing things like that, but that was just my story real quick. But going back to Hawaii, I remember Tua, you know, coming out of high school and he took one of his official visits was to University of Hawaii. And you know, this was deciding between staying home or going to Alabama. And I just remember seeing this kid, like, he has the, the most amazing future ahead of him. He was so humble. He was like, I'm really honestly thinking about staying here. And like, we had people at Hawaii like, bro, you don't want to come here. Like, literally, we were literally helping them. Like, you know, just, it's like you get these people we like shout out to one of the best running backs in the world to this day. To me, he's a local Hawaiian. He's got his family now, but his name was Steven Laka Laka. He was one of those guys that decided to stay home. He was a Punahou legend, the best running back. And he had schools like usc, UCLA online, and he came to Hawaii, he stayed home, and he really didn't get the career that was expected of him. And a lot of people say that's because he stayed home So I think, like, guys like Tua, guys like Mariota, guys like, you know, more guys like that, that know, took the different route, you seen them have the career that was supposed to be meant for them. And that was Tua. He went to Alabama. You know, he played behind J.

[Mystic Zach]

He, he was, comes in for the national championship. He's, dude, the Dolphins fans are saying tank for Tua. Like, he was that guy. And he started his NFL career off like that. And then the concussions, the hip surgery, he can't move anymore. His arm is like, shot. If he takes one more hit, he's probably going to be a vegetable.

[Jake Paul]

Yeah, it's sad. It's a sad situation.

[Mystic Zach]

I think, like, I don't think he's going to be a starting quarterback in the NFL next year. Could be a team that takes a chance, you know? But I just, I don't see Tua starting anymore.

[Jake Paul]

Yeah, I mean, what time?

[Mystic Zach]

And he's got all that money coming in, so I don't know what the Dolphins do. They're saying the Dolphins might have to attach a pick in order for a team to trade him. Like, they might have to give up a third round pick with Tua just to say, take him.

[Jake Paul]

They're gonna have to give up Tyreek. What about the Tyreek situation?

[Mystic Zach]

I don't know. And then I thought, tyreek maybe can go back to the Chiefs. And now my home's towards acl, so I don't. And Tyreek's leg is just. But if anyone come back from that, Tyrese 100%.

[Jake Paul]

He's different. He's a different animal.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah. I shot a commercial with tyreek. He's like 5, 10. He's not tall at all. There was a basketball hoop and he was like standing windmilling. I was like, what is this guy? He's literally, I'm like, like, I wonder how good he can dong. And he's like, literally, he takes like one step and he's windmilling. I'm like, this guy's an alien.

[Jake Paul]

Yeah, he'll be back. He'll be back.

[Mystic Zach]

He's an alien.

[Jake Paul]

He'll be back.

[Mystic Zach]

He's four, two, speed insane. Olympic speed. Like legit Olympic sprinter. Probably could have done hurdles or something as well. Long jump. Whatever he wanted, he could have done.

[Jake Paul]

Yeah. Praying for a good comeback for him. I'm praying for that. Maybe, maybe get him a new quarterback in there.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah, no, I, I, he's not going to be a Dolphin. He's going somewhere. I just don't know where.

[Jake Paul]

Bring it in. We're talking about quarterbacks. We got to tua. Shador Sanders, how do you feel about the whole situation? It's. I think he came in, he showed up, he showed out.

[Mystic Zach]

I think it's so hard to judge him with this surrounding cast. It's so bad. Yeah, last week was really rough. Really, really rough. But he's got nothing like Jerry Judy's handing the ball to the other team. I don't know. I don't know how to judge Shador. He's definitely better than Gabriel, who they picked ahead of him.

[Jake Paul]

Yeah. See how it rolls out. I mean, wait, like, you guys wasted two amazing picks when you guys could have. I mean, wasted one amazing pick when you guys could have just got him and had someone else had another dangerous weapon in that, that offense or even on that defense just to help the team. I think they could have got a running back they could have grabbed so many different. You know.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah, they definitely need a receiver. If you trade that pick, maybe some other team wants a quarterback and then you get some more weapons. You know what I mean?

[Jake Paul]

Since your door to Miami with Tyreek.

[Mystic Zach]

I think Tyreek's gone, but maybe the Cleveland can trade for Tyreek.

[Jake Paul]

That might be.

[Mystic Zach]

Maybe you send Tyreek to Cleveland.

[Jake Paul]

Oh, now that's something I could see. That's something I could see. I mean, the Cleveland. Cleveland's known for fumbling quarterbacks.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah, they are. So I don't. Maybe Shador should leave. Yeah, it might be better.

[Jake Paul]

It might be better.

[Mystic Zach]

It might be better.

[Jake Paul]

They're known for fumbling. They are quarterbacks.

[Mystic Zach]

They are.

[Jake Paul]

Got to give them some time to develop. I mean, look at Tampa.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah, Browns quarterback wasteland for sure. For sure.

[Jake Paul]

I mean, you've seen it. You've seen them.

[Mystic Zach]

But there's another franchise that we thought of the same way. The Chicago Bears never had a 4,000 yard passer in their history. Never had an elite quarterback. They get Caleb Williams the first pick. He's in year two. The team's completely turned around. They've been the number one seed in the NFC throughout the year. A little bit now they're playing the Packers. The winner of this going to win the NFC North. It's looking like it.

[Jake Paul]

This game is going to be insane. This is going to be a big week. Williams still got a weapon. He got a great receiver.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah, you got a dunes a. You got Colson Loveland. They pick him a tight end. You get Luther Burden. So they do. They have weapons.

[Jake Paul]

They got weapons he doesn't have. But they're run first they're run first. He doesn't have that elite wide receiver.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah. Yeah. So the packers beat them last time, but that game's at Green Bay. Now we're going to Chicago. The Bears, league's best rushing attack, best offensive line. But the packers just have a lot more big game experience. A lot more. They've been in this situation, but Mike Gutierrez is acl, so they're not quite the same team for sure with that being said. But I think Jordan Love and the packers go into Chicago and beat them.

[Jake Paul]

Yeah, I mean, if I had to, if I had to make. Put my money where my mouth is, I'm gonna probably go Packers. They do got some good run game. I think Green Bay's got a good run game as well.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah, Josh Jacobs is one of a kind. Yeah, for sure.

[Jake Paul]

So it could be Green Bay establishing a good run game and kind of just putting it to bed that way. I mean, is there any playoff contention on the line for this or the winner?

[Mystic Zach]

Mike could be the one seed. The winner probably wins the division. There's a lot on the line.

[Jake Paul]

Okay.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah. This is a big game. This is where we see if the Bears are who we think they are. Okay. This is huge for coach Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams.

[Jake Paul]

So, I mean. But then they got to go into Chicago. Yeah, they got going to that cold Chicago Stadium. Crazy.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah. They're going to be running the ball. They're going to get tired. You don't have Micah. So this can be a great game. I think the pack. I think I'm gonna rock. With Jordan Love and the packers though.

[Jake Paul]

I'm making the 360 switch. I'm going, I'm going bears.

[Mystic Zach]

You mean 180.

[Jake Paul]

All right. All right.

[Mystic Zach]

360 right back in Green Bay.

[Jake Paul]

You're right. You know what, let's make the 180. Yeah, let's make the 180. All right. You're going to Chicago.

[Mystic Zach]

I'm going Green Bay.

[Jake Paul]

All right.

[Mystic Zach]

All right. Let's go Ravens. Patriots at Baltimore. Baltimore's minus three, so they're favored coming into this game. But the Patriots have been pretty proven more this year. But the Ravens got that guy at quarterback. They got the guy.

[Jake Paul]

I'm going this one for sure. I'm going to have to go Ravens. And that's just off peer experience in the big game. That's off peer, you know, just, just that Ravens, it, it's something about that black and that, that black and purple, man. When it comes to big time games, they show up like you, you you can't count them out.

[Mystic Zach]

Like, I don't want to say this is like Lamar's legacy, but this. If there was a year, it's the year where Mahomes tears ACL and Burrow missed most of the season.

[Jake Paul]

Yeah.

[Mystic Zach]

To make the playoffs, to make a run. You know, like the AFC is more wide open this year than it has been in the last, I don't know, 20 years without Brady, without Mahomes. Like you are in prime position to take advantage of that. So this is a huge game. I think we're disrespecting the Patriots a little bit. Plus three. That's. I, that's so we really think these teams are even when the Patriots been better all year. I'm gonna go page. I'm gonna buy half a point. I'm gonna go Patriots plus three and a half. That's my pick. Beacon of the Steelers. They got a huge game. They're playing at Detroit. Detroit favored by six and a half.

[Jake Paul]

This is the one. This is the one. Everyone's going to be tuned into. I think that's a night game. I think that's a showtime game.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah. Prime time.

[Jake Paul]

Prime time. I think it's going to just be, you know, it's going to be Detroit just coming in there and doing what.

[Mystic Zach]

They need to do. The Steelers especially, because they just embarrassed the Dolphins. They never have two straight great games. They never do like these Mike Tomlin Steelers. They consistently win one, lose one, win two, lose one. They're always nine and eight. They're always on the bubble. They've become like the AFC Cowboys. Like they just the last nine years. They just. No playoff success at all.

[Jake Paul]

None. They'll. They'll get you hype. They'll beat one of your teams that you didn't want, expect. And then they get in there and then they're just like, we got in. We did. That's all we needed to do.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah. And those Le'Veon Bell Antonio Brown Steelers. That was like the Chargers with LT and Gates. Dude. They're like very similar.

[Jake Paul]

Very similar.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah. Very similar. Never like could. That's crazy that they couldn't get anything out of that. But I'm with you. I got Detroit as well. I think they go in there, they do their thing. Then we got the Colts at San Francisco. Philip Rivers making his second start, another week in the offense. Monday Night Football. We're putting him in a tough spot here. Going in San Francisco.

[Jake Paul]

That's tough. That's tough. And it's. The Colts have an amazing run Game as well. I think just with Taylor alone, if Philip Rivers can, you know, make those sharp passes and make those good tight end pot passes, those good slants, those good third and sevens, those ones, those, those pressure plays, I think the Colts going there, they run it down their throats and they, they, they secure the win.

[Mystic Zach]

They were the number one seed and now they got four straight losses. They're staring at the barrel of, of being at home come January. So this is a very important game. No, that's the whole point of this show. Like, we can talk about rap music next. Who Shiesty first day out.

[Jake Paul]

Like, think about. All right, so that's rap music sent you through that. What do you think about this 2C guy going back to college?

[Mystic Zach]

He's like 5 8, runs a 5 4. And we got him like, getting a scholarship to Syracuse. Have you seen this?

[Jake Paul]

Is that real? Is it real? It's real.

[Mystic Zach]

Full on scholarship.

[Jake Paul]

That's, that's insane.

[Mystic Zach]

If he can do it, Jake can do it, bro. Jake, you are better than 2C. I do not care 100%. Like, he might have crispier routes or whatever. He looks cool in his, you know, whatever.

[Jake Paul]

No, Jake runs good routes.

[Mystic Zach]

GROSS. Like, like 2C can shake and bake and do his thing, but he's 5 8. He's like 160 pounds. Like, Jake is bodying him, so.

[Jake Paul]

All right, sorry. So Jake goes back to college and does it a two year, bro.

[Mystic Zach]

We'll get him at fau.

[Jake Paul]

Fau?

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah. Chris Carter, let's go.

[Jake Paul]

Ah, that would be crazy.

[Mystic Zach]

The hall of Famer.

[Jake Paul]

I think he would have to go somewhere big time.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah.

[Jake Paul]

If they would give him a chance. Get. Put him in.

[Mystic Zach]

He needs, like, attention though.

[Jake Paul]

Like, he wants to go, he wants to go Buckeye.

[Mystic Zach]

He.

[Jake Paul]

He's gonna for sure try to walk. He's gonna try to walk on Ohio State. That's it, dude.

[Mystic Zach]

It's gonna be tough for the receivers coach to like, mold him when he's got like, Jeremiah Smith and all those guys, you know? You might want to pick like, a smaller school where they can like, really hone his skills, you know? Like, really, really be all in.

[Jake Paul]

You have to go to Hawaii. I have to make a call. Get him Hawaii?

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah. Hawaii could be sick.

[Jake Paul]

Hawaii had a pretty good year this year.

[Mystic Zach]

Chill with Utah, you know? Do your thing in Hawaii.

[Jake Paul]

Exactly.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah. That could be a move too, but yeah, no, I think Jake definitely better than two. One last thing. Your first drip check. Stand up. Tell me what you got on.

[Jake Paul]

All right, man. So I didn't know you was going to hit me. Caught me off guard. All right, I got to put the bag on to add a little value.

[Mystic Zach]

You definitely need the bag.

[Jake Paul]

All right, 100% check. Let's stand up today. We coming with the tea. It's my boy selfie. Shout out selfie. This is brand Eiffels. You'll see. You can catch it on Instagram. You catch it on all the exclusive rappers. You see it on Gunna. He's like, he's keeping it real exclusive right now. He's just taxing for the shirt. Shirt, like 500. The jeans. Fashion Nova, Mary Bell. Oh, Miri belt. You know, had to come through that Mary Belle. Lululemon on the draws, you know what I'm saying? Then we got the, you know, exclusive New balances. These exclusive right here. These ain't one of ones, or I'm lying. They're not one of ones, but they're exclusive.

[Mystic Zach]

One of a hundred.

[Jake Paul]

One of a hundred. Shout out to Salehi. I think these are. These are exclusive Collab Louis bag, you know, Plain Jane. Plain Jane. Rolly Cuban on. Nothing crazy. Came. Subtle. I didn't wear the D cut chain today. Came with the Cuban in a little fit. Nothing crazy.

[Mystic Zach]

Nothing crazy.

[Jake Paul]

All right, all right, all right.

[Mystic Zach]

Go ahead.

[Jake Paul]

Hit us where it hurts, man. Chrome.

[Mystic Zach]

You know what I'm saying? Platinum. Iced out on the watch. Something cool.

[Jake Paul]

VVS's. You see those?

[Mystic Zach]

And then I got a fresh crispy pear a of supreme. AF1s. Ooh.

[Jake Paul]

Okay, we got the Supreme. Okay. Yeah.

[Mystic Zach]

First wear. You know, only the best for double coverage.

[Jake Paul]

All right, man.

[Mystic Zach]

Okay.

[Jake Paul]

Yeah. First drip check. Appreciate you having me, man. Is it drip check? Is that tradition?

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah, that's tradition. Going back to kissing the mist with Jadakiss. Like I did the first rap sports fusion podcast before Cam and Mace. I want to put that out there with Jadakiss.

[Jake Paul]

I seen that. And that was fire.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah, that was fire like a full year before. And I was the first person to do the drip check. That is me. Now a lot of people do it and kind of focus on the fashion. They post the fit pics with the podcast. I was already doing that.

[Jake Paul]

Everyone's, you know, you were. You're a real legend of the game. Before we get out of here, I just want y' all to know, the first time I met Zach, you know, he was with. You know, it was through Jake and everybody, but he was coming through. No older than probably 17, 16. Man was coming through fresh. And he just always was just so locked in so humble. And he was like, manifesting this. You talked about this way back then, before you even had it. You were like. You were already doing the interviews with Jake. He was already hopping on. But you. You. You are for real. Historian, bro. And creative in the creative world, you know? I'm saying, people don't give you your flowers, bro.

[Mystic Zach]

Thank you.

[Jake Paul]

You've been doing this since you were 16 years old. And you were, you know, just a kid around. Like, even some of us around J. Like, who's this kid around here, you know, like, he's flying in, hopping off the. Hopping off the. You know, with PJs and all that.

[Mystic Zach]

High school Y.

[Jake Paul]

School, bro. Coming in off the pj, pulling up to Calabasas, and we're like, who's this kid, man? Doing the interviews. Always handing yourself professional, man. So it's a pleasure for me to see all the growth, bro, over the years.

[Mystic Zach]

Yeah, I'm proud of you, too. Family, baby. Yeah, man. Let's go.

[Jake Paul]

Appreciate it. Let's go, man. Appreciate you having me. Hopefully you bring me back on double coverage, man. You know, I love playing cover, too, in the NFL. I love sitting in the flats, getting a little pick. So, hey, double coverage, you know? Hey, you know, that's that I take double coverage into cover. So, I don't know, double coverage for you is like, you know, you know, the real double coverage, you know? But I appreciate you, man. Appreciate you having me, man. This was a blessing, man. Good energy. Fight week. We got the fight coming up. We got good energy. It's time to get it, man.

[Mystic Zach]

Let's go.

[Jake Paul]

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[Mystic Zach]

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[Jake Paul]

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[Mystic Zach]

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[Jake Paul]

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