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Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Thanks for listening to my Call of the Day podcast. You can hear my live radio program Monday through Friday from 2 to 5pm Eastern Time on Sirius XM Triumph 111. Laura. Welcome to the program.
Caller
Thank you, Dr. Laura, for taking my call. And I am a first time caller, so I'm a little nervous, so I'm going to give a little background. I am 60 years old. I am active, always been active and healthy, stayed in shape, been to the gym since I'm in my 20s. And yet. And with work, I achieved my goals, excelled at it. And yet for some reason.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
I'm sorry, what goal is that? What goal are we talking about with goal and never start a sentence to me. Where? I don't know. Never start a sentence like that ever to me. Okay, but let's go back over. What was the goal? You only had one in 60 years.
Caller
Oh, no, I meant at work. I'd have a goal at work that I'd set for myself and then I'd achieve it.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
What's the goal at work? Yeah.
Caller
Oh, my goal was just to do paralegal work and I had set myself up to maybe go to law school, but I was asked to become a judge as a law clerk and he said I had excelled to the point I didn't need to, that I could do the job. And I did it.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
I'm sorry, I have no understanding as to what. You said you were going to go to law school and somebody told you you could be a lawyer without law school.
Caller
No, ma'. Am, no. The job requirement was to get a law degree, but all the judges met and waived that requirement for me because I couldn't meet the job duties.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
I see. Okay, so let me ask you something that meant you didn't want to go to law school for yourself, you wanted to go to law school for this job.
Caller
No, I did. I always wanted to.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Ma'.
Caller
Am.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Ma', Am, that is exactly what you just said. So I'm just clarifying because that's exactly what you said. Whether you realize it or not. They told you you didn't need a law degree to keep that job, so you didn't want to become a lawyer, you wanted to keep that job.
Caller
Correct? That's correct.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
That may have been short sighted.
Caller
Okay, but my question doesn't really evolve around my job. I'm just saying that in other areas I've been. I had self confidence is what I'm saying. I had self confidence to take the job and do the job, but for some reason.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
I don't want to hear for some reason. Can you just stop that? Because I guarantee you 100% that has nothing to do with your problem. Whatever you're going to say in the rest of your sentence has nothing to do with the problem. Okay, I know everybody thinks I'm crazy, but trust me. So let's just go very slowly. So when did this happen that you did not go to law school and they said you don't have to, you can do the job. How long ago did that happen?
Caller
Oh, that was just within the last eight years.
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Caller
But but the question I have doesn't have anything to do.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Don't say for some reason and don't tell me any loss of confidence because you're not experiencing a loss of confidence. Okay, you're not.
Caller
I'm experiencing something.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Yes, you are.
Caller
A good kick in the butt with.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Yes, you are. I will agree with that. So after they told you you didn't have to go to law school to keep that job with whatever money and promotion, how did that feel?
Caller
It felt wonderful. I not only achieved it, but I kept the job for as long as I chose. And then I decided to go off and do contract work for, for various law firms in the area. I've built up a clientele and I've been doing that ever since to this day.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Okay, then clearly. And don't argue with me because it'll be a waste of your time. Even though I'm paying for the phone call. There's no dropping in confidence. That's not true. So try again. Thank you. So try again. I abort. Are you burnt out? Are you disappointed at all? What is it you want? I'm just throwing things at you until you grab one of them.
Caller
Well, my question is not necessarily with my job. It's this self image of a physical self image that I'm having a problem.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Why didn't you say that? Coming on. Why did I have to hear all this nonsense about your superlative job and not having me go to law school and all that nonsense? Honey, at 60 you are not going to look great anymore.
Caller
Oh, I. And I agree with you. And I. You couldn't pay me to get in my twenties again.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Well then can you tell me what the hell you're talking about when you say it's about physical? I'm just going to shut up now and let you dig this hole by yourself. Good.
Caller
So a few years ago, a friend of mine and her husband had invited my sister and I to go to their new condo at the beach. So we're enjoying our time. They set up the little beach chair, this young woman comes on the side of us and you know, basically with the little triangles and floss up her butt. So anyway, my friend's husband, you know, she's got to pick his chin up off the ground. And I told my sister, I said, now we're gonna have dinner in a show. Every time this woman bends over and you're like right there. So she said, our time is, our time is over, you're just going to have to get over it. And I. It was like a flash of memories. Ever since I was in my 20s that I've had this issue. So my question is, in what issue?
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
What issue? That you're not gorgeous? That you don't have a gorgeous body? If you say no to me one more time, I swear to God I'm going to hang up on you because you lead me down a path. I read the message at the end of the path and then you say no.
Caller
Because I feel like I just want to bury myself in the sand. I want to put a.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Would you stop that crap and just tell me. You don't have a gorgeous body but you're very smart.
Caller
Well, can I ask him?
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Don't say no. I'm going to hang up on you. You're playing games with both of us right now.
Caller
But I have a question. It's for an event that's getting ready to come up. I've been seeing a gentleman for a couple of years.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
You know what? You got to stop being a silly woman. You have an intelligence, you have a personality and you have some physicality a guy is going to like or not like the combination. You are not a hot babe. I went to lunch with a buddy the other day and I'm in my crummies because we had just taken a small long walk, hurt my knees so I couldn't do a hike up a mountain and these two tall, absolutely drop dead gorgeous blondes with skimpy clothes on walked past me and I just stopped and looked at them and then I looked at my buddy and I smiled. I said, eh, I got on the line twice for brains. And we both laughed and kept walking. Honey, if you can't handle real life aging and not being the most gorgeous, you're going to make yourself miserable. And there's no fix for this. You just have to sort of grow up in your own mind.
Caller
I agree with you.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
That's it. There's no fix other than you not whining about it anymore.
Caller
And logically I tell my.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
I don't care about logically. You have to stop whining about it. I made a joke. I could have whined about it like you. I could have called me and said I have no self confidence. But I do because I'm really smart. So I picked a thing that I'm confident about. And if you're just going to whine without giving yourself a plum in some other way, then you're just going to be a whiner. You're going to lose your relationship and there is no other cure. Because you say, I know that Intellectually, no. If you knew it intellectually, you'd embrace it as a fact. It's a fact we're not as good looking as those girls. We probably never were. Nonetheless, you have what you have to offer because you started with the bragging about the law stuff. Brag, brag, brag. You did. I was happy you did that because you're clearly aware of what you're particularly good at. Now. Men love to look at gorgeous bodies of women. They love it. It's partly how the DNA works in their brains. It's normal and it's natural. But when a guy wants to settle down, and unless he's a total jerk, he wants a woman who makes him feel good about himself, not who's got a gorgeous body. Men want a woman to make them feel good about themselves. When a woman does that, she's gorgeous to him. And if you're not going to embrace that, I feel bad for you. I've embraced it. And I'm 18 years older than you. When I was 21, I was about 35, 21, 36. I have a picture in a bathing suit. Every now and then I look at that and I go, geez, whoa, that was amazing. But now I'm an inch and a half shorter, a little bit of scoliosis and one boob is gone to cancer. You know, still, I know how to treat a man and I know what I'm good at and I have fun with my friends and I love my hobbies. And my dog doesn't care if my waist isn't 21. It went quickly after a pregnancy. Really, 21, I don't know where my intestines went, have no clue where the liver was. Now I have plenty of room for that, even though I'm only 115 pounds. Nonetheless, all you ladies out there who are whining about how you're not like those gorgeous, like those two women who walked by me, I couldn't believe I was that close to that much gorgeousness. They were drop dead amazing. And that's when I said I got on the line for brains twice. We're gonna take a break, come back with your calls. Yeah, I know this intellectually. Well, then you better embrace it intellectually because there's not a damn thing you can do about it. There's no way I'm going to be an inch and a half taller. 35, 21, 36 again. That means I can't be happy. I'm Dr. Laura Schlesinger, my number one, 800-375-2872. You're just a click away from some terrific deals being offered by companies that get the Dr. Laura stamp of approval. Visit DrLaura.com, click on sponsors to take advantage of the special discounts available to Dr. Laura. Listeners like you.
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Podcast Summary: Dr. Laura Call of the Day – "Beauty Fades, Brains Last Forever"
Release Date: July 23, 2025
Host: Dr. Laura Schlessinger | SiriusXM Triumph 111
Episode Title: Beauty Fades, Brains Last Forever
In the July 23, 2025 episode of "Dr. Laura Call of the Day," Dr. Laura Schlessinger addresses the perennial issue of self-image and aging. Titled "Beauty Fades, Brains Last Forever," the episode delves deep into the challenges individuals face as they navigate the complexities of aging, particularly focusing on the disparity between physical appearance and intellectual self-worth.
The episode centers around a caller, a 60-year-old woman who presents herself as active, healthy, and accomplished. She shares her professional journey, highlighting her success in the legal field. Initially, she discusses her career achievements, including her transition from paralegal work to a judge's role without completing law school—a testament to her capabilities and dedication.
Caller (00:25):
"I am 60 years old. I am active, always been active and healthy, stayed in shape, been to the gym since I'm in my 20s..."
Despite her professional successes and self-confidence in her career, the caller reveals a struggle with her physical self-image, particularly concerning the natural aging process.
Dr. Laura engages with the caller in a straightforward and, at times, confrontational manner. She seeks clarity on the caller's concerns, emphasizing the importance of understanding the root of the problem before offering advice.
Dr. Laura Schlessinger (00:50):
"I'm sorry, what goal is that? What goal are we talking about with goal and never start a sentence to me..."
This initial exchange sets the tone for a candid and no-nonsense discussion about self-perception and aging.
As the conversation progresses, the caller shifts focus from her career to deeper emotional struggles related to her physical appearance. She recounts an incident at the beach that triggered longstanding insecurities about her body.
Caller (07:14):
"A few years ago, a friend of mine and her husband had invited my sister and I to go to their new condo at the beach... It's been an issue since my 20s."
Dr. Laura responds with blunt honesty, addressing the harsh reality of aging and societal expectations of beauty.
Dr. Laura Schlessinger (07:27):
"Honey, at 60 you are not going to look great anymore. I couldn't pay me to get in my twenties again."
This unfiltered response underscores Dr. Laura's philosophy of embracing one's true self rather than succumbing to external pressures.
Dr. Laura continues to provide her perspective on self-worth, emphasizing the importance of intellectual and personal qualities over physical appearance. She shares personal anecdotes to illustrate her points, reinforcing the message that intelligence and character hold lasting value.
Dr. Laura Schlessinger (09:07):
"Men love to look at gorgeous bodies of women. It's partly how the DNA works in their brains. But when a guy wants to settle down... he wants a woman who makes him feel good about himself, not who's got a gorgeous body."
She challenges the caller to shift her focus from physical flaws to her intellectual strengths, urging her to stop "whining" and acknowledge her inherent worth.
Dr. Laura Schlessinger (10:22):
"That's it. There's no fix other than you not whining about it anymore... You have to stop whining about it."
Dr. Laura reinforces that embracing one's true self and ceasing to focus on physical imperfections is the key to personal happiness and fulfilling relationships.
The episode concludes with Dr. Laura reiterating her overarching message: embrace aging and prioritize intellectual and personal growth over societal standards of beauty. She encourages listeners to recognize and celebrate their strengths, fostering a healthier self-image regardless of age.
Dr. Laura Schlessinger (10:30):
"It's a fact we're not as good looking as those girls. ... When a woman does that, she's gorgeous to him. And if you're not going to embrace that, I feel bad for you."
Caller on Career Achievements (00:25):
"I am 60 years old. I am active, always been active and healthy..."
Dr. Laura on Aging (07:27):
"Honey, at 60 you are not going to look great anymore."
Dr. Laura on Male Attraction (09:07):
"Men love to look at gorgeous bodies of women... he wants a woman who makes him feel good about himself."
Dr. Laura on Self-Improvement (10:22):
"There's no fix other than you not whining about it anymore."
Embracing Aging: Dr. Laura emphasizes the inevitability of aging and encourages listeners to accept and embrace the changes that come with it.
Self-Worth Beyond Appearance: The discussion highlights the importance of valuing oneself based on intellectual and personal merits rather than physical appearance.
Critical Self-Reflection: Listeners are prompted to engage in self-reflection, identifying and nurturing their strengths to build a positive self-image.
Societal Pressures: The episode sheds light on the societal pressures, especially on women, to maintain youthful and attractive appearances, and how these pressures can impact self-esteem.
Authentic Relationships: Dr. Laura advocates for relationships built on mutual respect and intellectual connection rather than superficial attributes.
This episode of "Dr. Laura Call of the Day" offers a candid exploration of the challenges associated with aging and self-image. Through direct dialogue and personal anecdotes, Dr. Laura Schlessinger provides listeners with pragmatic advice on fostering self-acceptance and prioritizing inner qualities over societal expectations of beauty.