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Dr. Laura Schlesinger
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Allie
Hi. Thank you. Hello.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Hi Allie. How old are you?
Allie
I'm 15 years old.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
I just said that. But how can I help you?
Allie
So I've been having some trouble lately with a girl and to give you some background, I really looked up to her. I was friends with her until one day this issue arose and she.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
What issue?
Allie
Okay.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Woohoo. What issue?
Allie
So the friend group that I was in wanted to do an escape room together, but she felt claustrophobic and didn't want to do that. So I was being very commandant with her saying we can do something else. We don't have to do this activity. If you're not comfortable with it. But she saw that as me calling her weak and, like, pathetic. So I made the decision to leave that friendship because it was toxic and unhealthy and I was being hurt emotionally. She said very mean things.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Where did you get all these? It was toxic and I was hurt and I was. Where did you get this stuff from? Have you been in counseling?
Allie
No. No. I think she. I think. Dr. Lohr, I have been through some friendship breakups and less toxic friendships, and I think maybe she heard me say those things.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Mom?
Allie
Yes?
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Do you like every friend you've ever had?
Allie
No.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Have you had friends and then whether or not there was some blow up, it just sort of faded because wasn't that intense?
Allie
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Well, then why aren't we teaching Allie that this is just normal?
Allie
So I have taught her that. But Allie feels deeply and she feels justly about things, and she has a hard time moving on from people hurting her.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Okay, hold on a second. Hold on a second. That is a weakness, Allie.
Allie
Okay?
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Everybody has to like me. It's never going to happen in life. And if you're going to respond to these kind of situations purely emotionally and not intellectually, you're going to spend a lot of time in your life being hurt, wondering why. And why is because it's too much of a focal point. Is somebody a decent human being? Yes or no. And if you say no, then what they have to say about you is irrelevant. If somebody is a very decent human being you respect and they're pissed off at you that I would be concerned about and find out more about, but you're going to be hurt all the time with your attitude that everybody has to like you, even if they have stomach cramps. If after what you said, which was any, if it was accurate, what you told me, then you were very gracious. If truthfully, and I find it sad, much less hard to believe, she took it as a sign of weakness, then she's a scrambled strawberry. And what she has to do or say, you should shrug your shoulders too and just feel bad about and let it go. But to say that you're hurt is to give everybody the power over your state of mind. You can't do that. Yeah. Okay.
Allie
Yeah.
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So I never want to hear you say it was toxic and I'm hurting. Please don't say that stuff anymore. Even if your mother said it, don't say that stuff anymore. Yeah, I mean, toxic is reserved for chemical dumps. Annoying, irritating. These are reasonable terms. And at 15 you girls, because I was one at 15, have different seven different emotions within 15 minutes and they're usually exaggerated. So sometimes you let things pass and then you and this girl can reconnect when you say to her, you know, you took it as I was saying something bad about you and I was just wanting to show caring. So I'm sorry there was a misunderstanding, but honest to gosh, I was showing compassionate caring. If you don't want to go on it, you don't want to go on it. Doesn't make you weak or strong or anything. So this is what you do, instead of condemning something as toxic and you're hurt is to spend the time communicating. You know when they have these videos where they show people communicating with gorillas and chimpanzees, you know what makes me laugh about that? They're having these conversations with it, and everybody's so impressed. Yet in real life, people are loath to have a conversation. Like, I just recommended you go see her face to face and say, I think you took it as an insult. I intended to show friendship and caring. And I'm sorry there was a misunderstanding, but I'd like to fix it so we can go on like we were. This is communicating. And this is the strong stuff that I want from you. Not labeling, toxic and being hurt. This gives you power in life to really connect with people and to understand their weaknesses. Can't be permitted to cause you pain. Correct?
Allie
Yeah. Yeah, I think that helps.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
You no longer have. You no longer have hurt feelings. You have some curiosity as to how to approach this and improve it.
Allie
Okay.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Yeah. Is that good? Yeah.
Allie
Okay. Do you feel better?
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Next time your mother says something was toxic, say, if it's not a chemical dump, don't use the word. Okay? Okay. You didn't hear that, Mom.
Allie
That's great.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
Thank you both.
Allie
Thank you. Thank you, doctor.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger
You're very welcome. That was a very good point. That was a very good point. That was a very. Let's make that call of the day. Very good point. Because other people's. God, there's. Sometimes things come out of my head and even they stop me. Somebody else's weakness shouldn't be hurting your feelings. It's their weakness, not a definition of you. And if somebody behaves poorly out of their weakness, please don't take it that much to heart. That's why I always say the only criticism I even listen to is from people I respect. If I respect them and they have some criticism to offer, I listen because I know it'll be valuable. Some just being a critical jerk. Screw em. Doesn't hurt my feelings. Doesn't worry me at all. You gotta get to that point that you don't just filet your guts out there all the time and let everybody pick at them like hungry birds. That's good imagery. All righty. I'm Dr. Laura Schlesinger. Number 1-800-375-2872. This email, want to read it to you. Ready? Subject. April 10, you said, I don't support this marriage. April 10, 2026 at the end, your response to Sarah troubled about her upcoming wedding day was phenomenal. To hear you say loud and clear, quote, I do not support you getting married. It is morally wrong to put your child into this situation and I feel morally obligated to tell you this. End quote. Whoa. Tough little thing, aren't I? After listening to you for years, I picked up right away that she was already sacrificing her own kids for her boyfriend husband's preference to have his troubled son at the wedding so her kids could not be allowed there because they already agreed her kids and his are not going to be together. It's that bad already? I wanted to shake her. It's not about your wedding day. Don't you realize that's just the first day you're finally paying attention to the sense that it's not fair to your kids to be kept out of the wedding, not fair to be perpetually catering to his misbehaving son in order to cater to the husband who already wants his way under the guise of family comes first, but only his family, and every day thereafter will be a reenactment, only increasingly worse. I think she's motivated by feeling sorry for her fiance and he has been drinking it up. I did that to some extent 40 years ago when I was dating, and instead I should have squarely paid attention to what he was causing by his previous family instead of championing him or mommying him. Well, at any rate, thank you for your stunningly direct assessment. I wonder if her mom or friends have said that too. I played this conversation over quite a few times. I was naive in the past. You helped me outgrow a lot of that. It's about time. I'm 70 now, Meryl. 50. Thank you, Meryl. You know I love reading letters. A lot of strong women out there. I enjoy it. Didn't start out that way, maybe, but that's okay. You have plenty of years. I didn't get good biceps, triceps and delts in 24 minutes. And you know, if you don't do it for a week, it already starts declining. That just pisses me off. 1-800-375-2872 if you like this podcast, be sure to rate it on Apple Podcasts or your favorite place to listen to my podcast. Of course, I'd love if you gave me five stars. And be sure to share this podcast with a friend on Facebook or your preferred social media platform.
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Date: May 4, 2026
Host: Dr. Laura Schlessinger
Main Themes:
How young people and their parents can handle friendship conflict and emotional hurt, the importance of communication over labeling, and building emotional resilience.
This episode centers on a call from a 15-year-old named Allie and her mother, exploring how teens experience and process painful friendship issues. Dr. Laura uses their situation to offer broader lessons on managing hurt feelings, rethinking the labels we give to difficult situations (“toxic,” “hurt”), and practical approaches parents can take to help guide their children through social setbacks.
[02:07–03:10]
Notable Quote:
"So I made the decision to leave that friendship because it was toxic and unhealthy and I was being hurt emotionally. She said very mean things.” – Allie [02:40]
[03:10–05:44]
“Where did you get all these ‘it was toxic and I was hurt…’ Have you been in counseling?” – Dr. Laura [03:10]
Notable Quote:
“That is a weakness, Allie… Everybody has to like me. It's never going to happen in life." – Dr. Laura [04:10]
“To say that you're hurt is to give everybody the power over your state of mind. You can't do that." – Dr. Laura [05:23]
[05:44–07:50]
Notable Quote:
“Toxic is reserved for chemical dumps. Annoying, irritating—these are reasonable terms.” – Dr. Laura [07:54]
“Sometimes you let things pass and then you and this girl can reconnect when you say to her…‘I was just wanting to show caring. So I'm sorry there was a misunderstanding.’” – Dr. Laura [08:10]
[09:58–10:13]
Notable Quotes:
“You no longer have hurt feelings. You have some curiosity as to how to approach this and improve it." – Dr. Laura [10:03]
[10:35–11:47]
Notable Quotes:
“Somebody else's weakness shouldn't be hurting your feelings. It's their weakness, not a definition of you.” – Dr. Laura [11:07]
“You gotta get to that point that you don't just filet your guts out there all the time and let everybody pick at them like hungry birds. That’s good imagery.” – Dr. Laura [11:42]
“Toxic is reserved for chemical dumps.” [07:54]
“This is what you do, instead of condemning something as toxic and you're hurt, is to spend the time communicating.” [08:26]
“I always say the only criticism I even listen to is from people I respect… Some just being a critical jerk. Screw ‘em. Doesn’t hurt my feelings.” [11:15]
Dr. Laura balances empathy with her trademark no-nonsense advice, urging teens and parents to foster resilience rather than rumination, and to opt for open, mature communication rather than labeling and stewing. Her language is supportive but brisk, employing vivid metaphors and a bit of humor to reinforce the message:
Don’t let others’ weaknesses define you, and reserve your emotional investment for relationships—and criticisms—from people you truly respect.