Podcast Summary: "Infatuation is a Form of Insanity"
Podcast: The Dr. Laura Podcast
Host: Dr. Laura Schlessinger
Date: November 25, 2025
Episode Theme: Understanding the Difference Between Infatuation and Mature Love
Episode Overview
In this episode, Dr. Laura takes a call from Shelly, a listener who seeks advice on how feelings of love change through the decades of life. The conversation explores the distinction between infatuation and mature love, what characterizes each, and how age and experience bring new dimensions to romantic relationships. Additional questions around age differences in dating as an older adult and distinguishing friendship from romantic love are also addressed.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. How Love Feels at Different Ages
Timestamps: 01:35–03:14
- Shelly's Question: Does being in love feel different in your 20s versus your 60s?
- Dr. Laura’s Response:
- Younger people (teens to early 20s) often don't truly know what love is, nor do they understand themselves or their needs.
- Quote:
"But infatuation is powerful and it sweeps away intellect, good sense. Patience just sweeps it away because it's like a form of insanity. Infatuation is like a form of insanity, and I would think that's much more intense the less schooled you are in life." (Dr. Laura, 01:54)
- Infatuation is intense but shallow—fueled by physical excitement and excitement about feelings rather than realities.
- As people age, particularly in their 40s and 50s, experiences foster a deeper, more patient, and vulnerable love.
- Mature love evaluates character, compatibility in values, family relationships, and shared philosophies.
2. Identifying Mature Love Versus Friendship
Timestamps: 05:55–06:54
- Shelly's Reflection: Describes her current relationship as having more respect and companionship than the infatuation she experienced when first married.
- Dr. Laura’s Test to Distinguish Friendship from Love:
- Quote:
"Friendship. I don't get horny around my friends. Do you?" (Dr. Laura, 06:40)
- Physical attraction, sexual chemistry, and desire differentiate romantic love from friendship, even in mature relationships.
- Quote:
3. Navigating Age Differences in Later-Life Romance
Timestamps: 07:03–08:10
- Shelly's Question: Does an age difference (8–10 years, particularly with the man older) matter more in your 60s than it would have in your 20s?
- Dr. Laura’s Advice:
- Avoid generalizations; specifics of the couple matter most.
- Health, activity level, and shared lifestyles are more important than age itself.
- Quote:
"You're looking at the particulars. If you're asking me to give a generalization, I would say no, don't do that. But your particulars are that he's frankly more physical than you are. So that puts him not as many years past you." (Dr. Laura, 07:53)
4. Defining Love in Mature Relationships
Timestamps: 08:12–08:30
- Dr. Laura’s Conclusion:
- Mature love is marked by admiration, respect, and companionship alongside attraction.
- Quote:
"Is there all admiration and respect? Then that's love." (Dr. Laura, 08:24)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On Infatuation:
"Infatuation has no reality attached to it. We're just excited about how we feel when we look at the person and how we feel when they touch us." (Dr. Laura, 02:50)
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On Age and Relationships:
"When you're getting in your 40s and 50s, you've been schooled a lot in life. Hopefully you know a little more about patience and being open and vulnerable and allowing." (Dr. Laura, 02:13)
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Humorous Clarity on Friendship vs. Love:
"Friendship. I don't get horny around my friends. Do you?" (Dr. Laura, 06:40)
Key Segment Timestamps
- [01:35]—Caller asks if love feels different with age
- [01:48–03:14]—Dr. Laura explains infatuation as a form of insanity and how mature love is deeper
- [05:55]—Caller reflects on mature feelings in current relationship
- [06:40]—Dr. Laura distinguishes friendship from romantic love
- [07:03]—Question about age differences in dating in your 60s
- [07:53]—Personalizing advice on age differences based on lifestyle
- [08:24]—Defining love as admiration and respect
Overall Tone
Dr. Laura is matter-of-fact, occasionally blunt, and warm. She utilizes humor and directness ("I don't get horny around my friends.") to clarify nuances in relationships, and repeatedly encourages reflection and a focus on character and values.
Summary
Listeners will gain insight into how romantic feelings mature over time, the pitfalls of confusing infatuation with real love, and practical ways to evaluate deep relationships, especially later in life. The episode notably encourages self-awareness, discernment, and the celebration of mature, respectful connections.