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Episode SummaryIn this episode, Morgan sits down with David Packouz, the real-life arms dealer portrayed by Miles Teller in the hit film War Dogs.David shares the true story behind the $300 million U.S. government contract that inspired the movie, revealing what Hollywood got right, what it exaggerated, and what actually happened behind the scenes. From winning government contracts in his early twenties to navigating international arms deals, federal investigations, betrayal, and public scrutiny, David offers a firsthand account of one of the most fascinating business stories of the last two decades.The conversation explores the psychology of ambition, risk-taking, business partnerships, ethics, and the lessons David learned from working alongside the notorious Ephraim Diveroli. David also breaks down the realities of government contracting, the infamous ammunition scandal, and how he rebuilt his life after the collapse of the business.Today, David is a successful entrepreneur, inventor, and educator, helping others build legitimate businesses while applying the lessons learned from one of the most extraordinary chapters of his life.Episode Timestamps00:00 Intro: The Real Story Behind War Dogs01:56 How Accurate Was the Movie?03:45 What Hollywood Got Wrong05:36 The Albania Kidnapping Scene Explained07:27 The Truth About The Triangle of Death08:13 Who Was Ephraim Diveroli Really?10:30 Why David Avoided Prison & Ephraim Didn't17:36 Suing Ephraim After The Fallout21:04 From Massage Therapist to Government Contractor26:57 How Two Young Men Won Massive Military Contracts27:20 Dreamfest28:09 Why The Government Uses Private Contractors33:11 The Real Triangle of Death Story39:26 The “Save The King” Package41:25 Ignoring Red Flags & Working With The Wrong People44:57 The Psychology Behind Bad Decisions45:45 The Chinese Ammunition Scandal54:08 How The Business Finally Collapsed59:01 Business Lessons From The Arms Dealing World01:00:54 Why Reputation Beats Short-Term Wins01:03:51 Hard Lessons About Contracts & Trust01:06:00 Building Singular Sound & War Dogs Academy01:11:51 Dreamfest Reminder01:12:55 Advice To His 18-Year-Old SelfAbout David PackouzDavid Packouz is an entrepreneur, inventor, musician, and former government contractor best known as the real-life inspiration behind the movie War Dogs.In his early twenties, David became involved in federal arms contracting and helped secure a $300 million ammunition contract for the U.S. military during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. His story later became the basis for the Hollywood film starring Miles Teller and Jonah Hill.Following the events that made him famous, David transitioned into entrepreneurship, founding multiple successful businesses including Singular Sound, creator of the BeatBuddy drum machine pedal, and InstaFloss. He also co-founded War Dogs Academy, where he teaches aspiring entrepreneurs how to pursue government contracting opportunities legally and ethically.Dreamfest Registration 👉 Register Here : https://dreamfest2026.comConnect with David and War Dogs Academy👉 Learn more about David: https://davidpackouz.com👉 War Dogs Academy: https://wardogsacademy.comConnect with Mehttps://www.youtube.com/@morgantnelsonhttps://www.instagram.com/morgantnelson👇👇 Join my Free Skool Community 👇👇https://www.skool.com/dream-out-loud/about?ref=b30af20dcf024f8f9eaf71bd232e6311Join the Dream Out Loud Facebook Communityhttps://bit.ly/49QXClWDownload the FREE Life By Design Productivity Plannerhttps://planner.morgantnelson.com/optinplanner

You are giving away more information than you think. And it happens every time someone stops asking questions.Morgan sits down with former military operator and behavioural expert Chase Hughes to break down the art of elicitation - how to get anyone to open up, spot deception and get the truth without asking a single question.Listen To The Full Episode Here → https://open.spotify.com/episode/5hY0xVZh6t4aH6DA5wdY7P?si=YshRR2u8QdqZxDG52JajCADream Fest Details 👉 https://dreamfest2026.comConnect with Chase & NCIhttps://www.instagram.com/chasehughesofficialhttps://www.nci.university/Connect with Mehttps://www.youtube.com/@morgantnelsonhttps://www.instagram.com/morgantnelson👇 Join my Free Skool Community 👇https://www.skool.com/dream-outloud/about?ref=b30af20dcf024f8f9eaf71bd232e6311Join the Dream Out Loud Facebook Community → https://bit.ly/49QXClW

The CIA can influence anyone to do almost anything, from sharing state secrets to betraying their own country.So in this video I break down the exact tactics they use, and how you can apply them in your business, sales, marketing, and relationships to influence anyone you want.⊳ Join my Free Skool Community: https://www.skool.com/dream-out-loud/about?ref=b30af20dcf024f8f9eaf71bd232e6311

The way you communicate is either landing or it is not. Most people never figure out why.Morgan sits down with a former military operator and behavioural expert Chase Hughes to break down the neuroscience of metaphors and why they make your message impossible to ignore.Listen To The Full Episode Here → https://open.spotify.com/episode/5hY0xVZh6t4aH6DA5wdY7P?si=YshRR2u8QdqZxDG52JajCADream Fest Details 👉 https://dreamfest2026.comConnect with Chase & NCIhttps://www.instagram.com/chasehughesofficialhttps://www.nci.university/Connect with Mehttps://www.youtube.com/@morgantnelsonhttps://www.instagram.com/morgantnelson👇 Join my Free Skool Community 👇https://www.skool.com/dream-outloud/about?ref=b30af20dcf024f8f9eaf71bd232e6311

Everyone gets lied to every single day. The problem is you are looking for all the wrong signs. Former military operator and behavioural expert Chase Hughes sits down with Morgan to expose exactly what elite interrogators actually look for when detecting deception.Listen To The Full Episode Here → https://open.spotify.com/episode/5hY0xVZh6t4aH6DA5wdY7P?si=YshRR2u8QdqZxDG52JajCADream Fest Details 👉 https://dreamfest2026.comConnect with Chase & NCIhttps://www.instagram.com/chasehughesofficialhttps://www.nci.university/Connect with Mehttps://www.youtube.com/@morgantnelsonhttps://www.instagram.com/morgantnelson👇 Join my Free Skool Community 👇https://www.skool.com/dream-outloud/about?ref=b30af20dcf024f8f9eaf71bd232e6311Join the Dream Out Loud Facebook Community → https://bit.ly/49QXClW

Episode SummaryIn this episode, Morgan sits down with former military operator, behavioral expert, and communication specialist Chase Hughes to break down the hidden psychology behind influence, persuasion, and human behavior.Chase shares how elite interrogation and behavioral techniques can be applied to sales, leadership, negotiation, relationships, and everyday communication. From identity framing and covert influence to metaphors, elicitation, and detecting deception, this episode dives deep into how people make decisions often without realizing it.The conversation explores why resonance matters more than persuasion, how to guide people toward their own conclusions, and the neuroscience behind trust, communication, and compliance. Chase also explains how these same principles are used in military intelligence, legal trials, and high-level sales environments.This episode is a masterclass in influence, communication, and understanding human nature.Episode Timestamps0:00 Intro & The Psychology of Influence 0:51 Meet Chase Hughes 2:06 Taking Control of Conversations 4:06 Resonance vs Persuasion 6:08 Identity & Human Behavior 9:09 The Power of Identity Framing 12:10 Metaphors & Influence 15:08 Overcoming Fear & Rejection 17:57 Dreamfest 18:51 The Neuroscience of Communication 21:31 Plato, Persuasion & Human Nature 24:11 Influence in Sales & Trials 28:21 Selling Through Human Psychology 31:02 Why Scripts Don’t Work 32:39 Elicitation & Getting People to Open Up 37:55 Detecting Lies & Behavioral Changes 43:18 The Confession Formula Explained 46:22 Using Influence in Everyday Life 47:14 Social Anxiety & Confidence 47:28 Dreamfest Reminder 48:42 NCI Sales & Human-Based Selling 50:16 Building Better Relationships Through Communication 51:13 Final Advice to His Younger Self About Chase HughesChase Hughes is a former military operator, behavioral profiling expert, and founder of Neuro-Cognitive Intelligence (NCI).After serving 20 years in the military, Chase transitioned into teaching advanced human behavior, influence, and interrogation techniques used by intelligence agencies, law enforcement, and high-level negotiators around the world.Today, he trains professionals in communication, sales, behavioral analysis, and leadership through the lens of neuroscience and psychology. His work focuses on helping people understand how humans think, make decisions, and build trust.Dreamfest Detailshttps://dreamfest2026.comConnect with Chase & NCIhttps://www.instagram.com/chasehughesofficialhttps://www.nci.university/ Connect with Mehttps://www.youtube.com/@morgantnelsonhttps://www.instagram.com/morgantnelson👇👇 Join my Free Skool Community 👇👇https://www.skool.com/dream-out-loud/about?ref=b30af20dcf024f8f9eaf71bd232e6311Join the Dream Out Loud Facebook Communityhttps://bit.ly/49QXClWDownload the FREE Life By Design Productivity Plannerhttps://planner.morgantnelson.com/optinplanner

Was Epstein a Mossad spy? Morgan sits down with John Kiriakou, a former CIA officer breaks down the evidence and it is more disturbing than anything you have seen online.Watch The Full Episode Here → https://open.spotify.com/episode/7xvjIb06p3Y1DAfSnjYTUC?si=OiAS9pUVTEWmQa250nqfgQDreamfest Registration👉 Get your tickets here: https://dreamfest2026.com/opt-in Connect with Johnhttps://www.instagram.com/realjohnkiriakou/Connect with Mehttps://www.youtube.com/@morgantnelsonhttps://www.instagram.com/morgantnelson👇👇 Join my Free Skool Community 👇👇https://www.skool.com/dream-out-loud/about?ref=b30af20dcf024f8f9eaf71bd232e6311Join the Dream Out Loud Facebook Communityhttps://bit.ly/49QXClWDownload the FREE Life By Design Productivity Plannerhttps://planner.morgantnelson.com/optinplanner

147,000 millionaires left Australia last year. This is exactly why.Morgan sits down with Adam Hudson to break down the real truth about tax, wealth and why the most successful people are quietly walking out of Australia.This conversation will change how you think about money forever.Watch The Full Episode Here → https://open.spotify.com/episode/6fexdyc4VSwMOjIqbNUBTU?si=6wV3mC91TO-iegFffaNfnQDream Fest Registration 👉 Get your tickets: https://dreamfest2026.com/Connect with Adam → https://www.instagram.com/adamhudsonofficial 👇 Join my Free Skool Community 👇 https://www.skool.com/dream-out-loud/about?ref=b30af20dcf024f8f9eaf71bd232e6311Join the Dream Out Loud Facebook Community → https://bit.ly/49QXClWDownload the FREE Life By Design Productivity Planner → https://planner.morgantnelson.com/optinplanner

The biggest difference between you and someone who has every single thing you want is their beliefs. So in this video I break down my 3-step system to find the limiting beliefs holding you back, understand where they came from, and remove them so they never keep you stuck again.⊳ Join my Free Skool Community: https://www.skool.com/dream-out-loud/about?ref=b30af20dcf024f8f9eaf71bd232e6311

Former CIA officer, counterterrorism expert and whistleblower John Kiriakou sits down with Morgan to pull back the curtain on how the agency really operates.Watch The Full Episode Here → https://open.spotify.com/episode/7xvjIb06p3Y1DAfSnjYTUC?si=OiAS9pUVTEWmQa250nqfgQDream Fest Registration 👉 Join the waitlist: https://morgannelson.com.au/waitlistConnect with John → https://www.instagram.com/realjohnkiriakou/Connect with Me → https://www.instagram.com/morgantnelsonYouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@morgantnelson👇 Join my Free Skool Community 👇 https://www.skool.com/dream-out-loud/about?ref=b30af20dcf024f8f9eaf71bd232e6311Join the Dream Out Loud Facebook Community → https://bit.ly/49QXClWDownload the FREE Life By Design Productivity Planner → https://planner.morgantnelson.com/optinplanner