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April Callahan
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Cassidy Zachary
Rated PG 13 the history of Fashion is a production of dressed media. With over 8 billion people in the world, we all have one thing in common. Every day, we all get dressed.
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April Callahan
Welcome to Dressed the History of Fashion, a podcast that explores the who, what, when of why we wear. We are friends, fashion historians and your
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Cassidy Zachary
hosts, April Callahan and Cassidy Zachary, dress listeners. Hello.
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April Callahan
Hello April, hello and hello to all of you out there. It has been a minute, we know, and that is why we are reaching out to all of you today.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yeah, and we should probably preface this by saying that we are not actually back for the new season, but we wanted to pop in with a little bit of a teaser and tell you we are coming back with a new season and we are alive and well, working, busy behind the scenes. We just had a lot going on at the dawn of this new year.
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April Callahan
Yes, both of us taught classes. I taught a two part class on the history of the House of Schiaparelli, leading up to even contemporary moments in time and dress. Listeners, if you attended that class or if you would like to learn more about Schiaparelli, please just let me let you know that there is a very significant episode on Schiaparelli coming very, very soon because the Victoria and Albert Museum retrospective on Schiaparelli is opening very soon. In a couple weeks actually. Cass, I have already been sent a press copy of the book and it's about 300 pages long.
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Cassidy Zachary
Wow.
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April Callahan
I have already been perusing through it and I've read every Schiaparelli book under the sun, but there have been so many very interesting facts that I've learned via their New feat of research. I'm very excited for that.
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Cassidy Zachary
Any facts about scap you care to share that off the top of your head?
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April Callahan
Yeah, I would say that one of the things that I learned is so she opened her business without any training as a fashion designer, formal training in the late 1920s. So 27, 28. What I learned from this new V and A book is that her licensing deals with American companies started as early as 1929 and she apparently came to America in 1929. And that's not a trip that she speaks about specifically to the best of my recollection in her memoir. Yeah, I think there's going to be like some more little interesting details that emerge. So coming soon.
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Cassidy Zachary
I mean, she's such a fascinating figure, as we all know in fashion history, and endless source of inspiration at this point.
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April Callahan
And also one of the most successful relaunches of historic house that we have ever seen.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yeah. And I also taught a class they long promised, long demanded precursor to my two part what Women Wore series prequel. Prequel. My prequel, as you call it. So I dove into 1770s through 1840s fashion through the lens of three of history's most iconic figures. Marie Antoinette, Jane Austen, and a young Queen Victoria. And I had so much fun. These are not eras that I'm necessarily intimately familiar with. So I did a ton of research, a ton of reading, and learned a ton of facts and new information about all of these women, especially Queen Victoria. And I think people were actually a little surprised that I dedicated an entire class to Queen Victoria because as you know, April, she's not exactly what people would consider a fashion icon or the first person you think of when you think of 19th century fashion icons, because she spent most of her life in mourning for her husband Albert, who passed away in 1861, but prior to that, and she had been queen since 1837, I believe, or 1838. So for a good 20 years she actually was fashionable and in conversation with fashion. And so I had a lot of fun diving into her. Also, Jane Austen was. Is a surprisingly fashion conscious figure that I actually did not know the extent of just how much she enjoyed and played with fashion. So I had a lot of fun.
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April Callahan
Yeah. And also too dress listeners, if you are a Jane Austen fan, you can tune back into our oh gosh, I would guess, I would say it was like 2023 episode with Hilary Davidson, who is an expert on Regency fashion. And we chatted about her book that was specifically about Jane Austen's wardrobe, like her personal wardrobe. But Hillary actually Has another book out now that I know that you used in researching your class, Cass, that is about. How would we say this? It's like almost like a dictionary of
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Cassidy Zachary
Regency fashion terms or an encyclopedia of Regency fashion terms. Yeah. She is the Regency era expert, I would say, and I used her work extensively. She has a book about Jane Austen's world, the world that Jane Austen lived in in a larger context. But then she has a book specifically dedicated to Jane Austen and it is a massive book and it is just looking at Jane Austen's letters, when Jane Austen mentioned fashion. And it's amazing.
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April Callahan
And that's what she joined us on the podcast to talk about. So it's like all these letters between her and her sister talking about different kinds of fabrics and sometimes when it's been 200 years in time, the words that people used for certain things have been just been lost to us. So Hillary has basically gone in and is decoding all that 200 year old fashion terms.
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Cassidy Zachary
And yeah, specifically. And you all talked about this in your episode list Slippers. She defined what list slippers were, which are an incredibly fascinating object in history and the meaning had been lost. And she found it in the archive and was able to identify it. And am I going to remember exactly what they are? Possibly not, but I'm going to do my best to try. From what I can recall, list slippers were woven from the leftovers of like fabric trimmings.
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April Callahan
They were woven from the selvage of fabric. Yeah.
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Cassidy Zachary
And people would change into their list slippers after they were dancing all night. So you would change into these other shoes that your, your servant would bring in for you to change into at the end of the evening. And then the other thing that I thought was so fascinating from this era, and this is one of those things that if you're not a. I would say even if you are a fashion historian, I certainly didn't know this was that gown had two meanings during this period. It could be the length of fabric as well as the actual dress. And it was used interchangeably. Yeah. So there's a lot of instances where Jane Austen talks about buying 7 yards of a gown or whatnot or meters. I'm sorry, I do not know the correct metrics.
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April Callahan
I think it would probably be meters, but you get it. But, but also do they use sometimes other completely other terms for measurement then as well? So we're not even going to go down that rabbit hole. You might be here for another 30 minutes.
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Cassidy Zachary
I know. And dress listeners, again, we're just popping in to chat with one another, to chat with you and say hi and let you know that we're still here and what we've been up to. And actually I did want to let you know that my four part course is available to purchase. If you'd like to take it and download the recordings of that class you can get on dressedhistory.com and purchase that you can. Can they purchase your class as well?
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April Callahan
April I do believe they can. And so the class that Cass is referencing right now is her what Women Wore to the Revolution starting in the 1770s and then moving forward through the reign of Young Queen Victoria. Because you have three of these. That's why I'm pointing this out for our listeners.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yes, and I actually am going to because I just taught this class. I am going to be teaching what Women Wore the revolution 1850s to 1920s in June. If you want to join me dress listers Again, head to dress history.com. Dress listeners, if you're on the hunt for pre loved items from your favorite luxury brands, there is no better source than the RealReal. The RealReal has found new homes for over 37 million authenticated luxury items so they know firsthand the impact resale has on the planet. Rather than producing more stuff, the Real Real is making what already exists new.
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April Callahan
We have other news.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yes, we've been very busy planning our upcoming Paris trip. Right. April.
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April Callahan
Yeah. And we have received emails from many of you being like hi guys, when is the 2026 Paris trip? So much so that some of you that we've received emails from and you know who you are, have already been on this trip with us before. So I'm just saying we have so many repeat travelers that, that come with us whether they want to go on the Paris trip again because we are gonna be seeing different exhibitions and having different experiences. There's different, obviously different individuals that you meet and so different communities and friendships are formed. But yeah, so we have news, we have dates. Cass, would you like to do the honors?
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Cassidy Zachary
Yes. We are going to be heading to Paris August 30th through September 6th and I will give a caveat that if this trip sells out quickly and we are very ready to add a second week in September as well. So stay tuned. If these dates don't necessarily work for you and so we would have to sell this trip out first, but if we do and there's enough interest, we'll be adding dates for September 13th through the 20th. And briefly, we just want to share what we are going to be doing on this trip. We always see a lot of exhibitions, a lot of exhibition highlights this year. So we always go to the Dior Museum because that's a permanent museum dedicated to One of the greatest haute couturiers in history, Christian Dior. This was the site of his fashion house, of his historic haute couture house, still the site of his historic haute couture house today. So that's always a highlight. We're also heading to an exhibition which has not yet been announced, but they always have exhibitions at the Azzedine Alaia Foundation. And then. I am so excited, y', all. I could not be more excited about the exhibition I'm about to tell you. Well, I was very excited about Poiret last year. This comes in a close second because there is a fashion exhibition at the Musee des Arts Decorative called Royal Tie Dress From Tradition to Modernity, which focuses on the life and legacy of Queen Sirikit. So Queen Sirikit, she was the subject of a dressed episode. Geez. I think in 2020. But she is such a fascinating and important figure. She just passed away April last year at the age of 93 years old.
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April Callahan
And we should say here that she was the former Queen of Thailand.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yes, sorry, former Queen of Thailand. She became Queen of Thailand in 1950 when she married King Bhumibon and was incredibly important in promoting positive diplomatic relations between Thailand and Europe and America in the latter half of the 20th century. And part and parcel to these diplomatic relations were what she wore. So this was clothing that simultaneously promoted her Thai heritage, history and culture, but also French haute couture. So she built this incredible relationship with Pierre Balmain that lasted decades. And together they built this kind of hybrid Thai Western style of dress that she really became known for. And there's actually a massive archive of the fashions she wore throughout her life that are no doubt going to be on view in this exhibition. And they are on loan from the Thai Museum, which is entirely dedicated to Queen Circuit's fashion life and legacy, which you have been to.
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April Callahan
I have. It's the Queen Circuit Museum. Yeah. So that's gonna be amazing. Again, we've already done an episode on this, what, almost six years ago now.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yeah. With Melissa Levinton, who actually was largely responsible for helping to establish that museum. So she on and talk to us about this incredible woman. And she wasn't. I could go on forever, but she didn't just wear Thai fashion, she was active in promoting it and preserving a lot of these historic ancient crafts in Thailand. Really important, fascinating woman.
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April Callahan
Yeah. And there's also a tie in here in terms of the silk industry Post World War II, because Jim Thompson was an American, I think he was a CIA agent, actually, who was operating in Southeast Asia during World War II. And then he fell in love with Southeast Asia and Thailand in particular so much. And he realized that the Thai silk industry was faltering in the wake of the war. And he swooped in to reinvigorate and reconceptualize and modernize and promote Thai silks within the fashion world at large outside of Thailand. So this Post World War II era of the intersection of Thailand and like European and even American dress is very interesting.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yes. And we're going to see it all.
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April Callahan
Yeah. And there's also, if you go to Thailand, there's also a Jim Thompson museum slash estate where you can go to his former home, learn more about his work. And that's in Bangkok.
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Cassidy Zachary
Oh, interesting.
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April Callahan
Highly recommend.
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Cassidy Zachary
And what's going on at the Palais Gallera? Because we're headed there.
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April Callahan
Another always ever amazing visit that we do on our tour will be to the Palais Galliard, which is very much, arguably the most important fashion museum in the entire world. It has one of the largest collections. It is the city of Paris's fashion museum. So it's. It focuses on French and specifically Parisian fashion. But we're talking like hundreds of thousands of objects cast. Their collection eclipses the Met. It eclipses in terms of the number of objects and what they have by hundreds of thousands of objects. And we will be seeing a show in their history gallery which is quite interesting. It's called Weaving, Embroidering and Embellishing. And what it is going to do, it's going to be historical look at the art of the fashion trades from the 18th century, moving into contemporary fashion as well. And just like all of those incarnations of the modemuvement exhibition that we saw several different Paris visits, the Mode, fashion and movement exhibitions, this is also going to have three parts. So they're going to continue to switch out the objects over time to like, again, talk about the handcraft and the fashion arts of French fashion, which is going to be amazing. And then it's not been announced yet, but there may be an additional second exhibition that we might see when we're there too, but we don't know what that is yet. So that is always a super beautiful day. The building itself, the architecture itself is amazing. There's a lovely garden, there's a cafe, and it is not that far from the Eiffel Tower. That is always a fun one for us all. Unfortunately, this year, though, we will not be able to visit the YSL Museum because once again, it is still closed until 2027 for renovations.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yes, but we have so many exclusive behind the scenes experiences on this trip which makes it so special. April and I, we've written two lectures and one walking tour. We do a walking tour of the Rue de la Paix, Paris's famed street of a thousand luxuries that has the House of Worth where the House of Paquin was. Cartier still is, Giaparelli's around the corner. All these giants of industry all concentrated on this one street. So we do a walking tour of that. We do tour at Versailles. April, do you want to mention briefly the lectures we give at Versailles where we spend an entire day, the entire day, transporting ourselves back in time and
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April Callahan
it seems like no matter how early we get there or how late we leave, it seems like it's never enough time.
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Cassidy Zachary
I know we actually extended it as far as we possibly could this year. I think the bus is picking us up, like when it closes at 6 o', clock, we spend the entire day there.
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April Callahan
It's a treat. And it's not just the main palace. If you've already been to the main palace, we, we are going way beyond that. We do take a private coach to Versailles, which is always lovely. And during that, it's an hour is. Yeah, Cass and I give about a 30 minute talk on the role of fashion at the Court of Versailles and also the etiquette of fashion at the Court of Versailles, because those two things are very entwined in terms of the systems of power and status and also the French economy. And then after we tour the palace itself, we are going to wander down through the gardens, the beautiful gardens, which to be honest are one of Cass and I's favorite parts of Versailles itself. And we're going to have a lovely group lunch at La Flotille. And that is right on the Grand Canal. And the Grand Canal is where they have swans swimming. You can also get in a little row or paddle boat and paddle about. I know if you have seen the Marie Antoinette movie by Sofia Coppola, the scene where they're having the fireworks and they're all in the floating boats and it's very fancy. That's the Grand Canal. So we'll be having lunch right there and then from there we do about 12, 15 minute walk to Petit Trianon, which of course many of you probably already know was Marie Antoinette's home away from home at the Court of Versailles. It was gifted to her as a little quote unquote country estate by her husband and formerly the residence of Madame
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Cassidy Zachary
du Barry as well, Louis XV's mistress
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April Callahan
yeah, it has a very storied history. I mean, I don't want to call it a house. It's not a house.
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Cassidy Zachary
It's a mansion, a palace.
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April Callahan
Palace. A small palace in its own right. Yeah. But then again, we're double and tripling down on the garden situation. That's happening because she has really beautiful French gardens. Out back there was an outbuilding that was just like the ice house for dairy and ice cream at Petit Trianon. The. There's a little opera theater back there. There's a little pavilion that they still use for cocktail receptions and things. But then there's also the Hamlet. And if you listen to the show, we've talked about this a million times. Marie Antoinette basically built a.
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Cassidy Zachary
How do we want to describe this farm village?
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April Callahan
Outside of her petite Trianon, There's a mill and all these little buildings and houses, gardens and farms. And they are still operating as gardens and farms with vegetables being grown, pigs, goats, cows, rabbits. And it looks like it's Disneyland, but it's actually real. Yes, it's like the 18th century Disneyland.
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Cassidy Zachary
And it's just one of the most magical experiences on our. Probably the most magical experience on our tour is getting to experience that with you all. And then that's just the tip of the iceberg of the behind the scenes experiences we offer. We also do a tour with our beloved friend, seasoned dressed favorite Rebecca Devaney, who is an haute couture embroiderer and scholar and tour guide par excellence Paris insider, who takes us to her favorite specialty textile and related fashion shops in Paris. We go and meet the queen of needlepoint and Annie Bouquet. And we also spent a lot of time with Natalie at Auverosois, which is one of my favorite places. The oldest operating silk manufacturer in France is Auverosois has a long and storied history.
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April Callahan
Six generations now, or maybe even seven. I think we're at six at this point. So.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yes, and I have been saying forever, I'm gonna have Natalie on the podcast. So I'm definitely gonna get her on the podcast this year because such a interesting and fascinating history and one that is, as you just mentioned, still operated by the family today. And that's what you and I both love about France is this historic lineage that exists there in almost anything and everything we do.
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April Callahan
And a lot of these places that we're going are not necessarily open to the public. Annie Bouquet is open to the public, but Over Aix is not. And so they welcome us into their showroom. They let us sit, they let US purchase. It's a really special treat, especially if you are a needleworker of any sort. One of the things that always thrills me every time I'm at a verasois is that they also like cater to the fly fishing market.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yes.
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April Callahan
So it's not just embroiderers that are or haute couturiers who are using their silk threads, but also this whole other sub genre of hobbyists who use their silk threads to tie the like most
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Cassidy Zachary
beautiful fly fishing lures, the most luxury fly fishing lures you've ever seen.
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April Callahan
Yeah. And we're not done yet. Yeah. Because I think it's usually on that same day that we go to the Palais Garnier, which is the Paris Opera. There are two different Paris operas. There's one at Bastille and then there's Palais Garnier. The Palais Garnier is the 19th century, probably most famous opera house. Typically they house the ballet productions at the Palais Garnier. And so we always go on a very private, after hours after the opera house is closed tour. And it's incredible, this space. Everything about it is amazing. And we get to go into the ballet costume shops.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yes. It's always such a treat. And especially for you phantoms of opera fans, this is the opera in which that book and then later film versions of it are set.
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April Callahan
And obviously Broadway production.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yes, yes, obviously Broadway production.
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April Callahan
And we do, let's just say I have seen the Phantom of the Opera while there.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yes. You're talking about the Phantom, April. The actual Phantom. We do meet him.
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April Callahan
Yes, sometimes. Sometimes we meet him, sometimes we don't. Sometimes he wants to make himself appear and sometimes he's hiding. More on that if you join us,
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Cassidy Zachary
Dress listeners, we miss you. We love you. We hope to see you in Paris. If not in Paris and online or through social media or the podcast which is coming your way, we promise. May 6th is the debut of season nine. Can you believe it? April, nine seasons of dressed nine.
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April Callahan
And I think we're hoping to launch that off with our Schiaparelli episodes. Stay tuned for all of the above, but Cass and I had a very long planning meeting a couple weeks ago where we've planned out a whole bunch of season nine already. So we have very exciting things coming your guys way.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yeah. Do you want to give any other hints of episodes you have coming down the pipeline and I can share a couple of mine?
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April Callahan
Oh, yes, we definitely have, because I've already done this interview. We definitely have an interview on the history of Palestinian embroidery coming up. And there's an exhibition up at MoMU in Antwerp, which is their fashion museum there. Later in the season, Kat Debo, who is the curator at momo, will also be joining us to do another episode on the Antwerp Six, which we have not featured on the show before. So that was very much a gap in our fashion history timeline. So that will be happening. I have a new episode coming on Fashion beyond the Binary. Right. So it's about the intersection of gender and fashion.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yeah.
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April Callahan
So those are just a few of the things that I have up my sleeve currently. But there's lots more coming your way, too.
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Cassidy Zachary
I'm super excited. I have a couple things that I've already worked on, a couple that I'm prepping for. I just had another fascinating interview with Ben Hollingham, who is the senior editor of Guinness World Records.
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April Callahan
You guys, if you haven't listened to that episode already, that cast did a few years ago after we got done, we're like, ben, so such a good episode. You need to have your own podcast. And he's like, I don't want it. And I'm like, are you sure about that? Because you'd be really good at this,
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Cassidy Zachary
waiting with bated breath. But he is just such a fun person to interview, not least of which because of his job and just the very nature of what he does as senior editor, but also because he has a really wonderful dry sense of humor. So I had a lot of fun talking with him about another spread that we Collaborated on. So as a reminder, dress listeners, I sometimes consult for Guinness World Records, which is super fun. And we did an art of costume for film spread a couple years ago. Or gosh, I think it was a 2025 edition. But so we talked about some of the Guinness World Records that we collaborated on there. So that's super fun. Things like heaviest costume. Obviously Edith Head is in there as the costume designer to win the most Oscars.
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April Callahan
So it was one of the heaviest costumes. One of the Marie Antoinette costumes.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yes, it was. And not Sofia Coppola's Mir antoinette, but the 1938 version starring Norma Shearer. Massive. I think it's something like 130 pounds. It reportedly weighed more than.
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April Callahan
More than she did.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yeah, yeah.
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April Callahan
That's why I knew that. That's one of those facts that I literally didn't remember that I had in the back of my brain. But apparently I just pulled it forward.
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Cassidy Zachary
Do you know who the costume designer was?
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April Callahan
That was Adrian.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yep.
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April Callahan
Yeah.
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Cassidy Zachary
So that's a super fun episode coming your way. I also, I've been reading the new dress biography of Charlotte Bronte, famous author of Jane Eyre, which is one of my absolute favorite books ever. And again, just this surprising, we talked about Jane Austen earlier. Charlotte is not necessarily as fashionable as Jane Austen, I will say that. But the author, Eleanor Houghton, is going to be coming on and joining me to talk about this. Just incredible that she uses the surviving garments of Charlotte and there are several. She uses them as kind of as what she calls witnesses to Charlotte's life. And so she constructs this biography of Charlotte through her surviving clothing. It's really beautifully done. I'm super excited to do that. So, yeah, we have a full season coming your way, dress listeners, sorry it's taken us so long, but we are here and we are excited to join you again in May.
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April Callahan
We have just been doing other things as we do we. It's still just the two of us and sometimes Aaron.
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Cassidy Zachary
Yes, I think that does it for us today. Dress listeners, if you want to head to dresshistory.com to take April and I's classes, sign up for our future classes, sign up for our upcoming Paris tour. You can actually find a link to that, all of those things in our show notes or just head to dresshistory.com you can also always send us an email@hello, dressedhistory.com we love to hear from you. In the meantime.
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April Callahan
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Cassidy Zachary
And remember, we always love hearing from you, so if you'd like to write to us you can do so@hellorusthistory.com DressedHistory.com is also our website where you can sign up for our monthly newsletter, our in person tours and online fashion history courses. And you can check out whatever else we have up our finely tailored sleeves.
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April Callahan
We get so many questions from you all about our recommendations for fashion history books, so if you are interested you can always find a link in our show Notes to our Bookshop Bookshelf. So that address is bookshop.org shop dressed and there you can find over 150 of our favorite fashion history titles.
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Cassidy Zachary
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April Callahan
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Cassidy Zachary
Thank you as always for tuning in and more dressed coming your way very soon. The History of Fashion is a production of Dressed Media.
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