
In this episode, a candid conversation unfolds about power, perception, and the experiences that shape how people move through professional spaces. Especially the 400,000 Black Women who were laid off in 2025. Podcasters Damesha Craig and Katheline Jean-Pierre explore questions of empathy, representation, and the realities many professionals face when systems claim to support inclusion but often fall short in practice. The discussion moves from deeply personal and societal observations into a practical conversation about career visibility—particularly for leaders navigating uncertain job markets. Drawing on experience from inside one of the world’s largest professional platforms, the episode also examines how professionals can rethink their presence on LinkedIn and use it more strategically during pivotal career moments. It’s a conversation that challenges assumptions, surfaces uncomfortable truths, and offers insight into how leaders can position themselves with intention in a r...
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Executive Coach
Don't tell me that you fired these 400,000 black women because they were underperforming. You fired them because now they're unprotected. So easy to push them because you never like them, because you don't understand them, because, yeah, you don't have affinity with them. And I don't know, there's something there that they have a very hard time with having senior women at the top.
Diversity and Inclusion Advocate
This is what I think it is. When you think about all those statements that we were just talking about, all these company making, you know, the big statements that they really didn't even understand the true meaning of a lot of those words. They are not living that life in real life. And this is a problem. I almost see it as like. Like tho those statements were like social media, you know, it was like a highlight reel of like what they thought. But like the real behind the real was like, they don't have friends that look like us, you know, they don't understand. So there's a lack of empathy. And this is the thing, like, besides being unprotected, I think it's just a basic human empathy that is missing that I've seen in my own personal experience where they will empathize with someone coming in with fake tears, you know, that looks like them, but when I say actually that person is lying right now, you know, like, that actually didn't happen. This is how it happened. I have documentation. There's less empathy for a woman that looks like me, you know, And I've seen that. You know, we see it in hospitals, you know, I don't know if you saw the most recent where that woman was in active labor and the nurse was couched not looking at her and taking her information and punching it into the computer and she's screaming at the top of her lungs and we're watching it and thank God she had someone there filming, you know, but after they finally decide, I think it was like a half hour went on like this. She delivered 12 minutes later. Could you imagine? You know, it's like. But that's the lack of empathy that I'm talking about. You know, it's like, it's just. It's a human empathy that's missing, you know, and it's not to feel sorry for us, right? But it's just like empathy empathizing with our experience on a human level in getting curious about it. And I think that's missing, you know, empathy.
Executive Coach
Or is it just racism and not thinking that you're. We're even human?
Diversity and Inclusion Advocate
Well, That's a part of it. That's. And that's. That's a part of it.
Executive Coach
They're not humans. They're not suffering. Black women are supposed to be strong. You're not. You're not a real human. You're not. You can't be suffering. You're. You're strong.
Diversity and Inclusion Advocate
I think it's a combination, to be honest with you. But, but it starts with yourself. Like, we hold the power to choose how we show up, how we. The things that we learn, things that we want to unlearn. You know, you talked about the lineage, right? The. The history of racism and maybe one's family. It's like you hold the power today to break that.
Executive Coach
Oh, yeah.
Diversity and Inclusion Advocate
But if you don't choose to do that, then, you know, then it perpetuates and it continues. And we're seeing it now because it's so openly and it's blatant now, you know, administration, it's contagious. So now it's very contagious. And now people are, you know, very open with their, their racism and, and we're seeing it more and more. So I love that you touched on a lot of stuff like, you know, you touched on LinkedIn a little bit, and I'd love to, to kind of pull on your expertise there, but you led at LinkedIn, you know, and now you're coaching others on how to leverage their personal brand and, you know, and kind of get themselves out there that are out right now in the wilderness and maybe haven't even had to look for a job. This is the other thing that's really real. Like, there are so many executives in, you know, middle management that have not had to look for a job for years. And now navigating the waters, and it is not the same waters as it was when they went into those jobs. So they're not only having to relearn things, you know, in real time. And, you know, this is where I think a great coach can come in. So I'd love to kind of pull on your expertise here. But what do you think is the most overlooked ways professionals, like, are leveraging LinkedIn or maybe not leveraging LinkedIn for their visibility?
Executive Coach
I think LinkedIn first is a landing page. It's not a resume. It's your landing page. And there should. It's a conversion funnel. So what is the core message that you want to portray at the moment when somebody visits your page? So it has to be magnetic, it has to be updated, it has to reflect your capabilities. This is. It sells for you while you're sleeping. So most people are not leveraging their LinkedIn even just let's say you don't post even like having an ittle profile. You gotta optimize your LinkedIn profile and that's so important from the headline to the picture to the banners you can have multiple rotating banners to your about story to there's so much, there's so much you can do. It's, it's I get so many leads so LinkedIn is a lead generation engine so I would say first things first is understanding what is your goal with your profile or in your life and your profile should reflect that. Updating your profile to reflect that main goal to receive the leads that you want to receive whether it's finding a new opportunity, whether it's creating a portfolio career let's say you want to have a fractional role, fractional hr, fractional sales, whatever you're thinking about or speaking engagements so you have to really create that magnetic presence for yourself. Welcome to driving impact.
Host: Katheline Jean-Pierre
Date: March 8, 2026
Guests: Executive Coach, Diversity and Inclusion Advocate
In this compelling episode, Katheline Jean-Pierre sits down with an Executive Coach and a Diversity and Inclusion Advocate to confront the mass layoff of over 400,000 Black women and to explore how LinkedIn can be a strategic platform for their next career moves. The discussion weaves together candid reflections on workplace discrimination, the persistent lack of empathy for Black women in professional environments, and practical career acceleration strategies—especially leveraging LinkedIn as a personal brand engine.
[00:00] Executive Coach:
“Don’t tell me that you fired these 400,000 Black women because they were underperforming... you don’t have affinity with them... there’s something there that they have a very hard time with having senior women at the top.”
[00:22] Diversity and Inclusion Advocate:
“Those statements were like social media... But the real behind the real was like, they don’t have friends that look like us, you know, they don’t understand. So there’s a lack of empathy.”
[01:29] Diversity and Inclusion Advocate:
“...It’s not to feel sorry for us, right? But it’s just like empathy empathizing with our experience on a human level and getting curious about it.”
[02:19] Executive Coach:
“They’re not humans. They’re not suffering. Black women are supposed to be strong. You’re not a real human. You can’t be suffering.”
[04:11] Executive Coach:
“LinkedIn first is a landing page. It’s not a resume. It’s your landing page... It sells for you while you’re sleeping.”
This episode challenges listeners to confront hard truths about racial and gender inequities in the workplace, especially during periods of mass layoffs. Through incisive commentary and actionable advice, the speakers empower Black women—and all professionals facing sudden disruption—to use LinkedIn not just as a resume, but a dynamic launchpad for reinvention, networking, and personal branding. The tone is frank, empathetic, and future-focused, urging listeners to own their stories and take charge of their professional destinies.