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I'll never forget the moment when I saw our family name flash across the end credits of one of the awards that gave women people of color a platform to tell their story. And that's when I realized we could really use entertainment to influence so many for good.
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Hi, Bianca. Welcome to Driving impact, the top 5% method. I'm so excited personally to have you here.
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Me too. Thank you so much, Kat. I am so excited to be here. Thank you for creating this platform.
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100%. Listen, I know you very well. I feel your energies, but for our audience. Tell me more about yourself.
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Yes. Well, I am in the storytelling game, and I've watched the game, I've played the game, and now I'm here to change the game.
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So.
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So I watched the game. My parents, from their perspective, they're Filipino immigrants, and they worked all kinds of odd jobs to keep their dream of journalism alive. My mom was a secretary and my dad worked night shifts, but they worked their way up to make history. Being the first Filipinos in the Hollywood Foreign Press association. And that's the group that puts on the Golden Globe awards each year.
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That's a big deal.
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Yes. And at the time, I was a public school teacher. I was really trying to create change through the classroom and really see the classroom as a microcosm of the broader system. But at the same time, my students, they were essentially a work of science fiction. I couldn't find any stories that were by, for, and about them as people of color with disabilities, coming from low income backgrounds. And I'll never forget the moment when I saw our family name flash across the end credits of one of the awards that gave women people of color, a platform to tell their story. And that's when I realized we could really use entertainment to influence so many for good. So from watching the game, I got into the game. I worked at Lionsgate recently as the VP of diversity Equity inclusion. I worked directly with our CEO and our C Suite team to lead innovation strategies. Really thinking about how we could hire, promote, and recruit talent both in front of the camera, behind the camera, and in our corporate offices so that we could tell incredible stories. So got to work on big franchises like John Wick and the Hunger Games, to really impactful TV shows like P. Valley, and really understand how global stories are told and sold. And now I'm ready to change the game. So my goal is to be a magnet between the breakthrough AI storytelling tools and the entertainment industry's massive appetite for content. And my goal is to really transform how the entertainment industry gets stories Told and sold. So end goal is to keep scaling stories that the system systemically silences and to create the infrastructure where global voices like yours and mine generate genuine value. And that's where we become truly unstoppable. So excited to share more.
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So I love your story of being a teacher, then becoming fast track to VP at Lionsgate for diversity, which is a big, big deal. And then in la, because that's where we met. We met in Los Angeles. And then now you're pivoting towards empowering silent voices, which is true. You. And I'm French Canadian, originally from Haitian origins. And I too made the job to be able to tell different stories, but really to elevate first, amplify my voice and then invite guests of which voices could be amplified. All sorts of different guests. So I love your story. And the first question I have for you, Bianca, is because from public teacher to VP at Lionsgate. So how did you do it? What was your career accelerator?
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Yeah, again, when you think of education and Hollywood, you don't think innovation, but I really wanted to again, do the work, like solve problems that no one else really wants to touch on and to always center on diverse stories that need to be told. So I entered my career as a public school teacher because, again, I really wanted to see how we could create change from the classroom. My background is in public health, and in public health, you look at how you could make people healthier instead of, like, what makes people sick. And at the core of it, education really solves some of the systemic barriers. As a public school teacher, I got really good at working with my students and the families and also went from teaching teachers from Malaysia to Mexico, Philippines and Nepal, just continuing to work on how we could tell more of our stories and use that as our curriculum. And during the summer of 2020, during the murder of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor, corporate DEI roles like mine opened up. So it was a clear way for me to now move into the entertainment industry and continue to go from teaching students to teaching studios.
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That's a big shift.
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Yeah.
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What are the commonalities and the differences between teaching and teaching studios?
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It seems like a big shift, but it's all about taking on problems that people don't want to solve. So egos can be similar, like teaching juniors and seniors to egos in Hollywood, but, you know, it's all about looking for the biggest opportunities where the existing system dismisses or overlooks. So I'll never forget starting out at Lionsgate. We were faced with coming out of the Pandemic and our peers have halted production, revenue is dropping, and other companies are starting to go through massive layoffs. So in this moment, do you choose profits, people or productivity? And it's a false choice. You choose all three. That's how I led in the classroom and that's how I led at Lionsgate. So during that really key moment of change, I worked with our C suite to make sure that we were maintaining operations without layoffs. And we came out stronger. We did it through rapid reskilling, again, using my educator background to develop the training infrastructure so that employees could get more proficient in crisis management in just eight weeks versus six months. I also launched Innovation Labs with our employee powered resource groups. So they became problem solving groups and they came up with issues that were keeping the company leadership up at night. Everything from our policies to how we promoted films and that when we couldn't work on productions, we put people to work on solutions and then finally executive alignment. So I reported monthly to our CEO to eliminate any confusion and make sure that the work we were doing was going to translate back to our employees and our broader audience. And that's the same approach I did working in the classroom to make sure that there was alignment between our school leaders, our policymakers, and our parents and our students. And you know, the takeaway is that we don't make money by getting rid of people. We make money by keeping people at the center and optimizing the broader environment to foster productivity.
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And thank you so much for sharing your story. I think I see a lot of different similarities. Like I have a son who's in school, not senior, is in kinder. Like the work that our teachers are doing is incredible. And it's also, it's a lot of pressure because every student has their own situation, every parent has their own ambitions. Depending on which school you have, sometimes they're government funded, sometimes sometimes they're parent funded. So. And I see the magic of they put together a very well polished show knowing that there's been a lot of chaos, like you're dealing with the lives of all these people. So fast forward back to being VP at Lionsgate and coaching the CEOs in the studios. A lot of our audience is comprised of it's all sorts. Like we have CEOs of startups, we also have corporate senior executives, corporate mid level managers. And the question I know people are going to ask is, but how? It's very nitty gritty. Yeah, I understand the problem solving is how do you get from public teacher to people manager and Then to VP at Lionsgate, like was, was there, I understand like what your superpower is, but was there a path, an accelerator, a tip that you can share?
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Yeah, I really would encourage folks to really focusing on what are the problems that people don't want to solve. So to go from manager to VP in four years, I wasn't trying to climb the corporate ladder, but always looking for opportunities that people didn't really want to touch. Or saying yes to things that people think is risky, whether that's helping. You know, when we were exploring a new form of revenue with our free ad supported tv, helping think through brand identity or to what I'm doing now, I'm advising a film fund that's bringing production to the whole continent of Africa. It's taking those risky bets, but those often become your signature achievements. And also finding ways that you could bring in innovation to the company or to the team to do it and say like, hey, what if the answer to your, your biggest problems was in this room and I could do that in half the time and help you beat your competitors. It's finding those ways to say yes to again those experimental projects. And then I also can't emphasize enough finding mentors who are going to sponsor you, not just advise. So I found mentors all across our organization who could give me the straight talk. They would be my champions who put my name in rooms that I couldn't access yet. Because mentorship without sponsorship is just another coffee conversation. I really leaned on advocates who are leading our film and TV and corporate teams to stake their reputation on mine as well.
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No, I think that's brilliant because mentorship and sponsorship are two different things. That sponsorship really accelerates your career. So Bianca, let's say you were working at Lionsgate. How did you identify those mentor, but especially the sponsor relationships?
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Yeah, so it comes through organic and just showing up as a full person too. Like my superpower isn't being liked by everyone. It's just being my authentic self. That's how you and I connected too. I had done a lot of the self work to know that, you know, my, my deep shame message is feeling like I'm never, I'm not good enough just by being me. And once I could really break that pattern by getting clear on my own boundaries out of my self respect, I stopped performing worthiness and just started operating from wholeness. And that's when everything really started to change, like I always will. Remember the first time I had to present to the CEO and feeling so nervous about showing up again and performing the role. But when I really focus back on what it meant to just operate from wholeness, to know I have the expertise and also know I've done my homework, I'm here to translate and share what I'm finding and then work in partnership with him and the broader team. That's when I went from just surviving the rooms to transforming them. And that's how I went from again speaking in the classroom to then going to Cannes and speaking on stage. It's finding that courage.
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It looked amazing. It's so exciting. I definitely have more questions around that. So I love it like how you stated like so from you went from surviving a room to really owning the room but also showcasing your authentic self. Because sometimes when you're going to present to the CEO you extremely rehearsed and sometimes you can be wearing a mask. And I think the breakthrough you're telling the audience is basically you have a story to tell. Like stop surviving it. Just show up.
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Exactly.
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People are afraid to show up. And tactically in, especially in the corporate world or sometimes they have PTSD or some. Somebody said somehow at some moment in time something bad about them and then they're like, okay, I need to really be polished and. And you sound like a robot. But robots are not liked. So yeah, it's true. You guys stand out in a certain way with the right insight, but especially taking the insight make a compelling story. Because when the sea level leaves the room, what they're going to think about is the story that you've told. And if you haven't told the story, then they're not going to think about you. And so any other tips to own the room as a Filipino woman, a self made woman who's been able to navigate these rooms with. With confidence but also authenticity.
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Yes. No, I appreciate it. Kat. You named it. It's people just want to see you. I have built a whole ritual and I stay grounded through systemic gratitude and perspective rituals. So every night I review three things. One, what I accomplished and helped someone else win. Two, what I appreciate about myself. And then three, what I'm grateful for. And that keeps me connected to the impact rather than the activity. It reminds me that the best career moves are the ones that I create value for myself and others. And that's how I really earned this sabbatical over the past six months. Just staying in that gratitude, focusing on how I could fill my cup back up and then follow what's next. So again, as people are faced with all the different challenges in the corporate environment, we need to stay Grounded and connected to ourselves so that we're not just floating around, but we're moving with purpose.
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Thank you so much for sharing your ritual because when I meet you, I always feel that you're extremely grounded and even you have vibes. Thank you. But you gotta nurture the vibe. So that's the first ritual. And then you, you mentioned also a second ritual. And I'm super curious. Now you have another ritual to help you stay grounded and tap into your authentic self. Not the mask that we wear when we go at work in these big companies.
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Yeah. And I have to credit my exec coach, Kibi Anderson, for giving me this. She has the micro action, like, cycle of success. So to always go from take the action, do the thing that feels scary, and then to share it with others. So that's like the most important step. It's to say, hey, I wrote this, like, first part of the script, or hey, I put this deck together for the board. Here's the first draft. And then to share it with someone so that you're sharing what you're learning. And those like micro actions of. Of taking this step, sharing it, getting insight lead up to the broader macro goal. And doing that helps keep my momentum going. And I know it gets me out of the perfectionism when I know, hey, I just need to share this with someone. So I've loved being able to text more friends or say, hey, can I.
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Hop on a call?
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Or just call people and say, I just did this thing. I just want to tell you about it. And nine times out of 10, people are so excited that I've reached out or they learn something. I gained something from it. So to stay grounded and connect to our true self, we really need to move out of our personal. Don't stop at personal enlightenment. Always work towards collective identity building.
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That's amazing. So it's giving back as well. That's what I'm hearing. Giving back to others, contributing to us others. Because you're not just. You're not on an island. So it's important to contribute and give back to the collective. I love this so much. I want to hear. So you talked a lot about it, but I want to hear what are your radical career tips that have helped you build yourself as this spiritual powerhouse? That's how I'm going to call you. It's not just love it powerhouse, you're a powerhouse. But you also tapped into your authenticity and your spirituality. And then you're in the world of storytelling, in the world of diversity, equity, and inclusion.
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The radical career Tips the I can't emphasize enough understanding the playbook so you can rewrite the rules. I went to Cannes because I wanted to understand the sheer inertia that we're up against. And I left understanding what's accelerating. And that's those two things. Global storytelling and really harnessing the power of AI to democratize more storytelling tools. And working again in education in a traditional classroom model to understand the rules helped me rewrite the rules. That's what brought me to working with teachers in the Philippines, Nepal, Malaysia, and Mexico to think about special education through a lens of disability justice. And then I did the same thing, teaching studios at Lionsgate. Understanding traditional power, how to speak Hollywood, so that now while I'm bilingual, I speak studio and startup. Helping not just be a bridge, but be a translator, be a sorcerer, so that I can attract the opportunities, the right partnerships, and the people who are going to help more creatives get their stories told and sold. So I'm excited for people to really understand the playbook and allow that to rewrite the rules. Otherwise people will get hurt if we're not clear on what the rules are and what the rules we want to imagine next. So it's a way to be both pragmatic and radical at the same time.
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And you want to choose the game that you want to play because you talked about, like, you understand, you need to understand the playbook, but you have to understand the game to be able to win the game. I would just add that you want to choose which game you want to play in, because not all terrains are terrains that you might want to foray into. And I think that's the power of choosing where you want to play. And once you choose, like, let's say I can accept a job opportunity. I need to understand the rule, I need to master the rules, but I also have choose that this is what I have accepted in terms of opportunities do you have? Because I want to make sure that we. We wrap up with, like, even more tips from you because you're very fluid, very creative, and very wise. So, Bianca, do you have any tips for people who want to reinvent their career, but really healing the inner child? Because we talked a little bit about how you healed yourself, but how do people heal themselves? Any tips or tricks?
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I love this. So how to heal the inner child?
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Yeah. And the wounds that we carry, because we all carry wounds that sometimes keep us from the light. The light comes out, but sometimes it doesn't because we have this inner child that's wounded, that we Put first and foremost in the worst times, in the best times, I think we're like, I am the light, I am in the worst times. You're like in the dark place. You talked about not feeling good enough. Right. So how do you have any tips for people who want to learn or maybe are new in the journey or want to learn how to heal?
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Yes, yes, yes, yes. I have a creative hour that I guard each morning like it's a board meeting. And that one hour daily is for pure creative thinking. There's no emails, no calls, just my ancestors wildest dream ideation. It's my board meeting with my ancestors and we sit and we just write or I create. I use the, you know, different technologies to imagine stories that are in my head or even just to go out and walk and be inspired by what I'm seeing in my neighborhood in the day to day. And those are where my biggest breakthroughs come during those protected thinking sessions, not during back to back meetings. It's also creativity is a discipline. It's not an accident. People can really grow their creativity muscles, but we need to honor and respect it. So I've found that has been the most healing because in those spaces I can truly embody my, my, what did you say? Spiritual powerhouse self. And sometimes she needs to have a very honest board meeting with my emotional self, which sometimes regresses to a teenager, or my intellectual self, which sometimes is so harsh and mean and critical, or sometimes my body which just wants to stress eat and binge eat and make everything go away. But when I can protect and guard that creative hour each day, it grounds me, it fills me back up and it's that again. I know there's no fear because I'm in my most optimal path that my ancestors have laid before me. So I'm grateful for you to also encourage more people to tell their story because I think that's where again, creativity flows through is by listening and sharing.
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Each other's stories 100%. And I can relate to. I don't know how. I was very close to my ancestors when I was a musician when I was 17 years old. And then it took me going back to Africa in 2024, I gave a conference in Congo, Brazzaville, and I went to go get a painting in front of the place we were staying. So I go in the art gallery and then I look at something, a painting I liked. And then I was feeling some eyes in the back. I felt like there was something, someone looking at me. And I turned around and I was like, why Do I feel some presence? And then I saw this massive tiger. Yes, massive tiger. And I was like, no, I didn't come here to get a tiger. Especially, you know, tiger and Tinder, everybody, like back in the day, I don't know, it was back in 20, 2014 when I was dating in San Francisco before I got married, everybody, the men had tigers in the pictures and there was a meeting and whatnot. Anywho, I said the tigers. I didn't come here to get a tiger. And then I. I just felt the energy and the presence and I became obsessed. I was like, okay, turn around, look at him. And I was like, I don't know. I just had. It was like a portal to my. I think it's my grandfather. One of my ancestors. Many of my ancestors. And since that day, I've been having this tiger in my bedroom. Right. And before my bedroom, I had Magritte.
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Yes.
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I like my greet a lot. It's very abstract and dreamy. You have a rock that's floating, surrealist and. And then there's a mix of Magritte and. And this African tiger was like looking at me every day, giving me the reality check. So then that really some presence has created that I've created myself. Also some ancestral rituals where like yesterday was September 9, 2025, 9, 9, 9. So normally I would energize my crystals, pull a card. So there's all these different things you can do and just to be present to what you're creating next, especially when the energy is strong. Anywho, it was not about me. I just wanted to hear what are your rituals? And thank you so much. Where can people find you in your journey of storytelling? Any parting words for us?
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I mean, they can find me. I'm looking for folks who are wanting to lead the creative revolution in tech and storytelling, so excited to keep scaling stories that the system has systemically silenced and exploring opportunities right now with AI native startups that want to get more stories told and sold. Folks can follow me on LinkedIn, Instagram, but I'm not stopping. And I'm glad we're not either, because I know that that's where storytelling becomes unstoppable, when it's systemic, scalable, and it has soul in its strategy 100%.
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So you can follow Bianca Nepales on all the social media platforms. And we're excited to follow you on your journey into AI powered digital storytelling for diverse voices. So 100. So thank you so much for coming to the pod.
Host: Katheline Jean-Pierre
Guest: Bianca Nepales
Date: December 12, 2025
In this episode of The Top 5% Method® (Driving Impact), Katheline Jean-Pierre sits down with Bianca Nepales, former VP of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion at Lionsgate, to discuss unconventional paths to executive leadership—specifically, why the journey to VP is about more than just “climbing the ladder.” The conversation delves into lessons from education and entertainment, strategies for accelerating one's career, mental and spiritual resilience, and the art of championing unheard voices while staying grounded in authenticity.
Background:
Bianca shares her journey, highlighting her Filipino immigrant roots and her parents’ pioneering achievements in Hollywood journalism. She began as a public school teacher, intent on uplifting marginalized students.
Pivot to Entertainment:
Witnessing the power of storytelling to influence and empower, she transitioned into Hollywood, ultimately fast-tracking from educator to VP at Lionsgate.
Teaching vs. Hollywood:
Solving problems people avoid is a throughline in Bianca’s work; both classrooms and studios have similar interpersonal dynamics.
Crisis Management:
Leveraged educator training during pandemic-era industry uncertainty, rolling out rapid reskilling programs and innovation labs in record time.
Signature Achievements Over Ladder-Climbing:
Bianca never aimed simply to move up; she looked for problems no one wanted to solve, took calculated risks on challenging initiatives, and built a track record of innovation.
Mentorship vs. Sponsorship:
Meaningful advancement came from proactive mentors who advocated for her, not just offered advice.
Radical Self-Acceptance:
Key to Bianca’s transformation was moving from “performing worthiness” to “operating from wholeness.” This authenticity fueled her confidence in high-stakes environments.
Mindset Shifts:
The breakthrough comes from focusing on substance rather than performance—being present, telling compelling stories, and communicating genuine value.
Gratitude & Perspective Rituals:
Bianca reviews, nightly:
Micro-Actions & Collective Identity:
Incorporates a “cycle of success” (thank you, coach Kibi Anderson): take small, often scary actions, share them for feedback, and build incremental momentum.
On Opportunity:
“Always looking for opportunities that people didn't really want to touch.” (10:03, Bianca)
On Authenticity:
“My superpower isn't being liked by everyone. It's just being my authentic self.” (12:24, Bianca)
On Mentorship:
“Mentorship without sponsorship is just another coffee conversation.” (11:38, Bianca)
On Rituals:
“I have built a whole ritual and I stay grounded through systemic gratitude and perspective rituals.” (15:11, Bianca)
On Creativity:
“Creativity is a discipline. It's not an accident. People can really grow their creativity muscles, but we need to honor and respect it.” (23:15, Bianca)
Bianca encourages listeners to embrace authenticity, seek out unsolved problems, prioritize creativity as a discipline, and find sponsors as much as mentors. She's now focusing on AI-driven storytelling and is open to connecting with others ready to amplify diverse narratives.
Follow Bianca Nepales:
Parting Words:
“I'm looking for folks who are wanting to lead the creative revolution in tech and storytelling... that's where storytelling becomes unstoppable, when it's systemic, scalable, and it has soul in its strategy.” (27:22, Bianca)
This episode offers powerful, actionable insights for anyone seeking to reshape their career path, lead with impact, and transform their industries from the inside out.