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Hey everyone, I'm Ashley Banfield and this is Drop Dead Serious. We have covered the Brian Walsh case before on this podcast, but today. Today's a different day because today is day one of his murder trial. I have been waiting for this. If you want to catch up on this case, I've done a lot of work on it, so I will link the full playlist of earlier episodes in the description. But here's the thing about cases like this. You don't always need a body to convict someone of murder. Not when the evidence points to things like dismemberment and disposal of body parts and a cover story that collapses under the slightest pressure. Brian Walsh said from the get go that his wife just up and left on a work Trip on New Year's Day and just never, ever came home. Simple as that. Despite the fact that they had three little kids together, and despite the fact that she never said goodbye nor ever called them. Yeah, he just said she left. Simple. He swore over and over to the police that he had no idea where she could be. Despite the fact that he didn't even bother to report her missing. And he kept that story going year after year after year, even after they found her bloody clothes and her personal effects in a dumpster behind his mom's house. And they found bloody knives and Tyvek clothing covered in his DNA and her DNA. But suddenly, on the eve of his murder trial, Brian Walsh decided to come clean, sort of. And said, okay, I chopped up her body and I threw away her body parts. But hey, hold on there. I didn't kill her. Yeah, just. Just let all of this sink in. Yeah. So what he's saying to us is I was lying then over and over and over again, but I ain't lying now. He truly thinks we'll believe this. This preposterous story. And there's more. Like how she died. If you didn't kill her, how'd she die, Brian? Oh, he has an answer for that, too. So as the courtroom filled up this morning, I could not wait to hear what this explanation was. Right. How did Anna Walsh just end up dead before you decided to chop her up and throw her away in the trash? Yeah, explanation better be a damn good one because Brian is accused of murder. And while the death penalty isn't on the table in Massachusetts, life in prison is no parole. After Anna went missing, police found some incredibly damning Internet searches that were made just within hours of the last time Anna was seen alive, including how long before a body starts to smell and how long to inherit money after someone dies. And my personal favorite, the one I think is going to sink him in this case. Best ways to dispose of body parts after murder. Best ways to dispose of body parts after murder. After murder. His words, not mine. He said after murder, not after. I don't know, something went wrong. She just died. Because get this. In opening statements today at his long awaited murder trial, Brian's story is that Anna just died just right there, you know, in her sleep. Perfectly healthy woman just rolled over and died. Yeah, that's. That's pretty much how it happened. Weird, right? And this is how his attorney actually put it.
Prosecutor
When he entered the bedroom and began to get into the bed, he sensed something was wrong. You will hear evidence that it made no Sense to him. But he nudged Anna, his wife. She didn't respond. He nudged her again, a little harder. She didn't respond. He nudged her now in a frantic and panic reaction to where she actually rolled off the bed. You will hear evidence in this case of sudden unexplained death. You will hear evidence that it is real. You will hear evidence that it happens in young people and old. You will hear evidence it happens in male and female.
Ashley Banfield
Sudden unexplained death. Sudden unexplained death. Like sudden Infant death syndrome. Like SIDS, but only SUDs. Right? Whatever you call your steaming pile of shit, it is the identical bullshit that Chad Dabel tried to roll out in his murder trial. Remember that? Remember after he was charged with killing his first wife, Tammy Daybell? Yeah, she's just, you know, coughing and dying and then she just rolled off the bed. Dunno.
Brian Anton
Weird.
Ashley Banfield
So I buried her. It didn't work for Chad. Chad was found guilty and Chad got the death penalty. And already it is not looking great for Brian either, right? Liar, liar, pants on fire for. For three years. And then I chopped her up. I didn't kill her. Is that reasonable? I mean, is that reasonable? The prosecutor pointed out a couple of really important things. Like Anna had $2.7 million worth of life insurance. And again, there were those pesky Internet searches conducted just hours after Anna supposedly.
Prosecutor
Just died in her sleep at 4:54am The MacBook searched. Best way to dispose of a body and then went to similar websites more than an hour. At 6:24am same day, the same device searched. How long for someone to missing to inherit? How long missing to be dead?
Ashley Banfield
Earlier on my NewsNation show, shout out to NewsNation, I spoke with NewsNation's C Senior national correspondent Brian Enten. He was in the courtroom for all of that.
Brian Anton
One question. Did anybody laugh at the notion of what the defense attorney opened this case with?
Courtroom Analyst
Yeah, sudden unexplained death. I think a lot of people were walking in today wondering what he was going to say because remember, it was just a couple of weeks ago that suddenly Brian Walsh said, I admit to disposing of the body and I admit to lying to police, but I did not murder Anna Walsh. So we were all sort of wondering, okay, well then what is he going to say? Like, how does he get out of the murder? This was it. I mean, this was the defense. This is what the defense attorney said in the opening statements and that she suddenly died. And apparently there's going to be medical experts, but you got to think about this, Ashley. I mean, they never found the body. You said that. So if they bring in these medical experts to talk about sudden, unexplained death, like, what can they even go off of? There's no body, there's no reports, there's nothing.
Brian Anton
I think the problem, Brian, and you and I have been through this a few times, is that when you are an exquisite liar like this guy, and that's by his own admission, he's already told us that he's been lying through his teeth all the way from the moment she disappeared to the moment that he's now having to face the music of how she died.
Sarah
Why?
Brian Anton
Why on earth would anybody believe this load of garbage? She's partying with another friend. They have another friend over till one o' clock in the morning, having a lovely New Year's Eve, and then suddenly, just like Tammy Daybell, she's dead. And even using the term rolling off the bed, it's as though he read Chad Daybell's defense.
Courtroom Analyst
I mean, the defense attorney used the word nudged. Nudged her once, nudged her twice, she wasn't moving. Nudged her a third time, and she rolled off the bed. She was nudged a third time, and that rolled her right off the bed. The whole thing was bizarre. And then the way they described the New Year's Eve, it was this beautiful dinner. There were no issues in the marriage. The defense attorney said there was no issues with the cheating. We know there was cheating. There were no money issues. There was a ton of money issues. They were so happy. He was dealing with federal charges for selling fraudulent artwork. She had another boy. I mean, there were all sorts of issues. Sorry, I'm a little sick. My voice sounds weird. But, you know, and then he apparently goes down to do the dishes, like 1, 2 in the morning, like such a good husband. Goes up late and then gets in bed and she's got. I keep writing it down sudden, unexplained death, like it's some kind of, you know, medical term.
Brian Anton
So listen, I think that the most damning stuff is something we already just heard, you know, brought up in court. It's the searches, it's the Internet searches that are done within hours of that house guest leaving at 1:30 in the morning. And I think the first searches are somewhere around 4 or 6 in the morning, right? Just hours after she's dead. How long do I have to wait to inherit? When does the body start to smell? What's the best way to cut up a body? But this one was my favorite. And I'm Going to read it because I missed it the first time round and I caught it today. Best way to dispose of body parts after murder. Those are his words. Brian Enten. Best way to dispose of body parts. Not after accidental suds. Not after accidental nudging makes her roll off bed. After murder. How are they going to get past that little note that he made to himself? After murder?
Courtroom Analyst
Yeah, and I wrote them all down. I mean, there were so many searches. All the ones you said, how long does DNA last? Is it possible to clean DNA off of a knife? I am the user of my wife's credit card. She is missing. He searched. They go on and on. And the defense attorney just tried to make it sound like, oh, yeah. But, you know, he was just trying to figure things out. And he kept making the point. He did this for the boys. He did this for the little sons because he thought if he didn't dispose of the body, then it would all come back to him. When this was all just, you know, a tragedy. It was. It was the sudden unexplained death syndrome. So he was doing this to protect his little boys. The defense attorney said, sure.
Brian Anton
What I find suddenly unexplainable is why this loving husband who's had a wonderful dinner, doesn't grab the foot and call 911 if suddenly the wife beside him isn't moving. Because that's generally what reasonable people do. And if there are 12 reasonable people on that jury, they're going to look at the guy and say, I smell Chad Dabel all over you, fella. There's no death penalty in Massachusetts. That may be the only difference here. Brian Anton, thank you so much for this. Keep bringing it to us. It's an incredible case.
Courtroom Analyst
Thanks, Ashley.
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Ashley Banfield
So that's day one in Brian Walsh's murder trial. And something tells me this jury is in for a wild ride, as are the rest of us, because, you know, this guy is pretty exquisite in his ability to lie. He's already admitted that part. We're going to keep tracking every moment for you, so hit subscribe so you don't miss the next update. Also, Carla Homolka and Paul Bernardo. This was the case that launched my true crime career almost four decades ago. People always say, how did you get into this business? And this was the case. It happened when I was just a cub reporter. And it was truly, it remains the most disturbing case I've ever covered. Right. Like, right out of the gate. My first was the worst. They're often referred to as the Barbie and Ken killers. But a lot of people who've written about them have done just that. They've written about them. I actually lived this case. I covered it. I lived it. I felt sick to my stomach and had to keep going. Covering this, doing this work. I remember wondering, how am I going to get through it? I also remember for the first time ever hearing police officers and journalists being offered mental health therapy. Man, this was the late 80s, early 90s when we didn't talk about mental health. So that really stood out for me in covering this case. Anyway, I've done a huge episode on it and I would love to hear what you have to say about it. It's a pretty in depth dive into this crime and also my experiences sort of going through that horrible odyssey. I am glad that it brought me to you though. I'm Ashley Banfield. Thank you so much for listening. Thank you so much for watching. And remember, the truth isn't just serious, it's drop dead serious.
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Date: December 2, 2025
Host: Ashleigh Banfield
In this gripping episode, veteran true crime reporter Ashleigh Banfield dissects Day 1 of the highly anticipated Brian Walshe murder trial. The central theme delves into Walshe's latest—and wildly implausible—story: his claim that his wife, Ana Walshe, simply died in her sleep, and that any subsequent damning evidence is merely the collateral of him covering up her unexplained death rather than committing murder. With her trademark irreverence and deep expertise, Banfield explores courtroom developments, key evidence, and the surreal arguments presented by the defense. She’s joined by NewsNation’s Brian Enten and a courtroom analyst to provide live insights and reactions.
“You don’t always need a body to convict someone of murder. Not when the evidence points to things like dismemberment and disposal of body parts and a cover story that collapses under the slightest pressure.”
“So what he’s saying to us is: I was lying then, over and over and over again, but I ain’t lying now. He truly thinks we’ll believe this. This preposterous story.”
“You will hear evidence in this case of sudden unexplained death. You will hear evidence that it happens in young people and old.”
“Like sudden infant death syndrome. Like SIDS, but only SUDs. Right? Whatever you call your steaming pile of shit, it is the identical bullshit that Chad Daybell tried to roll out in his murder trial.”
“At 4:54am the MacBook searched: 'Best way to dispose of a body,' ... at 6:24am same day: 'How long for someone to missing to inherit? How long missing to be dead?'”
“One question. Did anybody laugh at the notion of what the defense attorney opened this case with?”
“So we were all sort of wondering, OK, well then what is he going to say? Like, how does he get out of the murder? This was it. ... She suddenly died.”
“When you are an exquisite liar like this guy—and that’s by his own admission—he’s already told us that he’s been lying through his teeth all the way from the moment she disappeared to the moment that he’s now having to face the music…”
“...The defense attorney said there were no issues with cheating. We know there was cheating. There were no money issues. There was a ton of money issues ... He was dealing with federal charges for selling fraudulent artwork. She had another boy...”
“I think that the most damning stuff...it’s the searches, the Internet searches that are done within hours of that house guest leaving at 1:30 in the morning... Best way to dispose of body parts after murder. Those are his words.”
“What I find suddenly unexplainable is why this loving husband who’s had a wonderful dinner doesn’t grab the foot and call 911 if suddenly the wife beside him isn’t moving... They’re going to look at the guy and say, I smell Chad Daybell all over you, fella.”
On Walshe’s new story (Banfield, 03:50):
“He truly thinks we’ll believe this preposterous story.”
On the prosecution's key evidence (Prosecutor, 06:59):
“At 4:54am the MacBook searched: ‘Best way to dispose of a body’... at 6:24am: ‘How long for someone missing to inherit? How long missing to be dead?’”
On the defense’s explanation (Banfield, 05:59):
“Whatever you call your steaming pile of shit, it is the identical bullshit that Chad Daybell tried to roll out in his murder trial.”
On jury perception (Enten, 11:58):
“...if there are 12 reasonable people on that jury, they’re going to look at the guy and say, I smell Chad Daybell all over you, fella.”
Banfield’s wrap-up (12:33):
“So that’s day one in Brian Walshe’s murder trial. And something tells me this jury is in for a wild ride, as are the rest of us, because...this guy is pretty exquisite in his ability to lie.”
| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:35 | Banfield’s introduction, case recap, and format | | 03:50 | Brian Walshe’s new defense: admits to dismemberment | | 05:09 | Defense’s opening: "sudden unexplained death" | | 05:59 | Banfield’s critique, Chad Daybell comparison | | 06:59 | Prosecutor lists incriminating internet searches | | 07:43 | Brian Enten’s courtroom report & panel discussion | | 09:22 | Analyst points out issues in defense story | | 10:15 | Banfield and Enten review key searches and prosecution case | | 11:58 | Jury perception & comparison to other notorious cases | | 12:33 | Banfield wraps up and teases further coverage |
Banfield keeps the discussion sharp, skeptical, and irreverent. She doesn't shy away from calling out obvious falsehoods and injects dark humor, all while underlining the seriousness of the crime and trial. The guest analysts and reporters match her directness, providing deeply informed commentary without pulling punches.
This episode delivers a thorough, darkly witty, and sharply critical breakdown of the first day of the Brian Walshe murder trial, spotlighting the implausible “sudden unexplained death” defense and the mountain of evidence—especially the damning digital footprint—that prosecutors are using to tell a very different story. Banfield and her colleagues make it clear: Walshe’s narrative is as unbelievable in the court of public opinion as it is in the courthouse, and listeners are set up for a dramatic trial ahead.