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Podcast: Drop Dead Serious With Ashleigh Banfield

Episode: DEEPLY DISTURBING: Twisted Glimpse Inside Kohberger's Life Before & After Idaho Student Murders
Date: September 10, 2025
Host: Ashleigh Banfield
Primary Topic: Deep dive into never-before-seen photos from the phone of Bryan Kohberger, accused in the Idaho student murders, and insights into his psyche before and after the crimes.

Overview

In this episode, Ashleigh Banfield provides a raw, emotional, and deeply personal analysis of dozens of previously unseen photos obtained from Bryan Kohberger’s phone. These images, unearthed by forensic experts and never before made public, span the time before and after the University of Idaho student murders. Banfield scrutinizes each, searching for clues to Kohberger’s psyche, vanity, and possible motives, and reflecting on the chilling sense of evil that permeates his self-portraits. The episode aims to humanize the victims, explore red flags in criminal behavior, and reflect on the true crime genre’s compulsion to understand and recognize “monsters” before they strike.

Key Discussion Points

1. The Photo Dump: What Was Found ([00:05]–[12:14])

• Banfield describes her visceral reaction:
  • “Some of the faces he makes and some of these pictures, it’s just the face of a monster.” (A, [01:31])
  • Photos are largely selfies, most never posted or sent—kept just for Kohberger himself.
• Context of the photos:
  • Dozens found on his phone; many taken before and after the murders; settings include bathrooms, hiking trails, restaurants, his apartment, and his parents' home.
• Search for red flags:
  • Banfield frames her analysis as a quest for understanding such individuals—how to recognize them:
    • “How can we recognize them? What pieces to the puzzle can we put together to just get a little bit smarter…?” (A, [05:30])

2. Vanity, Narcissism & Chilling Details

(Bathroom Selfies, Wounds, and the Timeline) ([01:00],[10:00],[19:09],[20:10],[28:39])

• The infamous ‘thumbs-up’ selfie & injury:
  • After the murders, Kohberger photographed himself, with a bandaged ring finger, likely reflecting a cut sustained during the crime.
  • Weeks later, subsequent selfies show the same wound in healing stages:
    • “The wound on that finger, on that knuckle is still there.” (A, [03:14])
    • “Two and a half weeks later, it’s still healing, but the bandage isn’t on it.” (A, [20:58])
• Obsessive vanity:
  • Shirtless photos flexing, checking himself out in new jeans with tags on, multiple sequences showing him admiring his physique.
    • “He’s so vain. And he, for some reason, thinks his physique is fabulous, it seems in these pictures.” (A, [02:19])
    • “There’s a whole series of him checking out his butt in these new jeans that he bought.” (A, [12:18])
• Disturbing affectations:
  • Photos where he intentionally or unintentionally looks menacing, including references to horror icons:
    • “It’s just Michael Myers, you know, just so incredibly freaky.” (A, [04:28])
  • The “clown face” photo is highlighted as especially chilling.

3. Pre-Murder Behavior: Outdoor Life, Notes, and Codes ([10:00]–[19:09])

• Outdoor images:
  • Multiple selfies hiking, at landmarks, in front of state capitals, and at sporting events.
  • Presence of bear spray and frequent outdoor activity.
• Encoded notes and possible airline codes:
  • Repeated selfies holding papers with his name, date, and cryptic codes.
    • “He tries to write them backwards and forwards because he knows that the camera or the mirror is going to reverse them.” (A, [11:08])
  • The meaning remains unclear but may document travels or other fixations.
• Shopping photos:
  • Mirror selfies in stores like Ross and TJ Maxx, sometimes trying on black clothing, which Banfield speculates might be connected to clothing worn during the murders.

4. Post-Murder Mood Shift: Transformation & Psychological Observations ([21:28],[22:31],[28:46])

• Demeanor shift after the murders:
  • Banfield and producer Lindsay note an apparent rise in Kohberger’s confidence post-crime, particularly in more frequent flexing and shirtless photos.
    • “He looks like he’s exuding more confidence.” (B, [28:46])
    • “All the flexing is late. It’s after the murders.” (A, [28:59])
• Possible drug use:
  • Banfield speculates whether Kohberger might have returned to drug use during or after the events:
    • “I wonder if any of it is possible, if he got back into drugs during any of this, during the murders.” (A, [21:32])
• Comparisons to notorious killers:
  • Kobherger’s obsession with checking his appearance likened to infamous true crime figures (Dahmer, BTK, Bundy).
• Watching Bundy videos:
  • Right before his arrest, he was watching Ted Bundy YouTube videos; Banfield suggests possible emulation:
    • “Maybe he’s trying to look like it because the thumbnail is of Ted Bundy on the YouTube videos, right?” (A, [26:01])

5. The Final Days: Road Trip, Return Home & The Arrest ([22:29],[23:55],[24:51],[25:14],[25:38],[26:01],[26:53])

• Driving across country:
  • Documented transition from Washington to his parents' home in Pennsylvania via selfies in the white Elantra—vehicle believed to be central to the crime.
  • Banfield imagines these photos as parallels to his movements the night of the murders.
• Home with parents:
  • In Pennsylvania, Bryan is seen taking selfies, including with a dog (possibly the family pet), and in the kitchen with plastic baggies—mirroring the notorious detail at his arrest:
    • “There’s a box of baggies on the floor… Who does this in the kitchen of your parents house? Ew.” (A, [26:55])
• Arrest context:
  • The last photos show Kohberger dressed in black, the color he was found wearing when police arrested him.

6. Reflections and The ‘Papa Roger’ Theory ([29:15]–[30:43])

• Banfield revisits the internet rumor that Kohberger was “Papa Roger,” a suspicious online commentator on the case, noting investigators’ inability to confirm the link:
  • “Just the fact that they didn’t make the connection doesn’t mean he didn’t erase the connection. And they did admit that he was good at wiping these devices.” (A, [29:15])
• Continued calls for awareness:
  • Banfield articulates the underlying mission of her podcast:
    • “I am starving for those facts. I’m starving to find out what makes certain people in our flock turn that way. And I’m starving for red flags.” (A, [31:19])

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Some of the faces he makes... it’s just the face of a monster.” (A, [01:31])
• “The wound on that finger, on that knuckle is still there.” (A, [03:14])
• “How can we recognize them? What pieces to the puzzle can we put together to just get a little bit smarter…?” (A, [05:30])
• “He really does want to check out his physique. He really likes to see himself flex.” (A, [24:14])
• “It’s just Michael Myers, you know, just so incredibly freaky.” (A, [04:28])
• “[These] are forensic evidence… this man is an enigma. We don’t know why he did this. We still don’t know what his motivation was.” (A, [26:55])
• “He looks like he’s exuding more confidence.” (B, [28:46])
• “All the topless pictures. This is all… after the murders.” (A, [28:59])
• “I just feel like the more we know, the more maybe we can see the flags, protect ourselves.” (A, [31:28])

Timeline of Important Segments & Timestamps

• Introduction & Purpose – [00:05]
• Discovery and analysis of Kohberger’s selfies – [01:00]–[05:30]
• Discussion of injury and wound timeline – [03:14]–[20:10]
• Vanity and bathroom selfies discussion – [02:19]–[12:18]
• “Clown face” & sinister expressions – [04:28], [12:18]
• Outdoor activities & encoded notations – [10:00]–[19:09]
• Shift in photos after murders; confidence, flexing – [20:10]–[28:59]
• Driving home, final selfies, the arrest – [22:29]–[26:53]
• The “Papa Roger” theory revisited – [29:15]–[30:43]
• Host’s reflection on red flags, how to recognize evil – [31:19]–End

Tone

Ashleigh Banfield adopts a personal, irreverent, and often blunt tone—frequently inserting her feelings (“makes me sick,” “I want to shove it,” “God help anybody out there if he returned them”), her outrage at Kohberger’s self-absorption post-murders, and her relentless quest for understanding what makes killers tick. Her delivery moves between macabre humor, direct address to the audience, and moments of empathy for the victims.

Conclusion

This episode offers a haunting, detailed psychological snapshot of Bryan Kohberger through his own lens, as analyzed by an experienced crime reporter. It raises difficult questions about recognition, motivation, and evil, while humanizing the case’s victims and underscoring the ever-present challenge of identifying dangerous individuals before tragedy strikes.