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DNA Found at Home as Disappearance of Savannah Guthrie’s Mother Escalates | Nancy Guthrie Update
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Hey everyone, I'm Ashley Banfield and this is drop dead serious. And I'm coming to you from Vermont. Again. Welcome to my home. I have a very personal true crime story to bring to you because it has, it has come very close to my life. Savannah Guthrie's mom is is missing. And Savannah and I have been colleagues for years, going back 20 years. We're friends. And when I heard the news, I was floored and I thought what first can I do to help and second, how is this going to be solved and who is working on it? And they are throwing everything at this crime. And I say crime because that is what it is. It is not a missing person anymore alone. It is a criminal investigation involving a crime scene at Nancy Guthrie's home in Arizona. Let me get you up to speed a little bit on the stuff you're about to find out. I have had a very, very long and in depth conversation with Sheriff Chris Nanos of Pima county in Arizona and he was extraordinarily forthcoming with information. I am going to talk to you in depth about our investigative information and interview. And there is information about DNA. There is information about signs of entry. I have information for you about ransom. I have information, I asked him about footprints and tire tracks. I have information about the scene itself. Was the concern inside or outside the house. I've got new answers on that. Basically I have a lot of information that I didn't hear earlier in the news conference. So I'm going to bring all of that to You. But I want to take you to the beginning. I want to start from the very beginning in how this story broke, what happened and how Savannah and her family even discovered that their mom, Nancy Guthrie, was not at home and that it was no accidental disappearance. So you would know by now, obviously, that Savannah has been for over a decade the host of the Today show. And I should just let you know that this was really, really hard on her colleagues at the Today show. Craig and Chanel opened the Today show today without her, and they told the audience exactly why Savannah was not on the set. Here's how they began the day. Take a look.
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Right to what is a deeply personal story for us. Nancy Guthrie, st. Savannah's beloved mother, has been reported missing in Arizona.
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Nancy, who is 84, was last seen Saturday night and reported missing on Sunday by family members.
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Savannah saying in a statement, on behalf of our family, I want to thank everyone for the thoughts, prayers and messages of support. Right now our focus remains on the safe return of our dear mom. We thank law enforcement for their hard work on this case. And they encourage anyone, anyone with information to contact the Pima County Sheriff's department at 520-351-4900.
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So Savannah's mom, Nancy, is 84. Okay. And she was reported missing on February 1st from her home in the Catalina foothills. And that's just north of Tucson, Arizona. You should know that the call came in mid, sort of midm, morning on that Sunday. Okay. Feb, Feb. 1. And it has been around the clock since then. The family members said that they were first alerted that something was wrong when somebody from Nancy's church reached out and said that she wasn't at church Sunday morning. But what's important is that the sheriff told me that family members. There was a member of the family who had dropped her off the night before. I think the time was around 9:45. So the last known sign sighting for Nancy Guthrie was when the family member dropped her off on Saturday night. That would be the last day, 31st of January at around 9:45 at night. And she might have been getting ready for bed and, you know, maybe taking medicine. She takes medicine every single day. Critical medicine. This is important. You're going to find out about this critical medicine that she cannot be without for 24 hours. We are beyond the 24 hour mark. So there is a grave concern for her health and safety right now. So as soon as the family members heard from this church member that Nancy hadn't shown up for church, they went to the house and whatever they Saw, they realized something isn't right. And I'm going to tell you all the signs that they saw that we know about that. When the police saw that, they knew right away there was a big problem. But the family members called 911 right away and said, we think our mom is missing. And so the police arrived en masse. And at first they thought with this early information that this might BE Elderly woman, 84 years old, maybe wandered off, maybe signs of dementia, that kind of thing. No, Nancy Guthrie does not have any dementia. She is, as they say, sharp as attack. So this was not a wandering situation with an older woman. This was something different. And so a massive search followed right away. There were ground crews, K9 teams, drones, aircraft, get this. More than 100 sheriff's department vehicles and law enforcement vehicles surrounded Nancy's home and began the investigation. Homicide teams came right away. Even though they thought this could be missing person. Right. An accidental or a forgetful or something. Homicide teams were in that house right away. And that was the indication that there's something more. There's something more here. Right? So what began as the missing persons case, that has now escalated into something way more serious, because now the search and rescue operation has been stopped, and it has been stopped, they say, permanently, unless and until there is a reason or an indication that they need to reignite it. That worries me. And you're going to find out why, because clearly the word that comes to mind is kidnapping. And so I asked the sheriff, do you have a kidnapping on your hands? And he was very blunt with me. You're going to hear that in just a moment. What he said was the indications at the home. At the home were so suspicious and unusual and unsettling that all indications early on made them believe that it was a criminal investigation. And as the day Wore on, it 100% became a crime scene and a criminal investigation. So the Pima county sheriff, Chris Nanos, confirmed that investigators say Nancy Guthrie's disappearance is a crime. And after processing the home, the sheriff actually said that there were things that not even seasoned detectives but all the detectives realized right away. And I know what you're thinking, you know, maybe she was picked up for an event with somebody else and just didn't take her cell phone or forgot to tell the family members. It's nothing like that. It's nothing. Family wants to be really clear about something right away up front. They say that she was of sound mind, fully competent in that way. The only thing that Nancy Guthrie has is physical ailments, just, you know, Mobility issues, the stuff that comes with age when you're 84. She took these daily medications, right? And it was very upsetting to hear Chris Nanos, the sheriff, say she has to take them every day. And in a 24 hour period without taking them, it can be lethal. Now, I don't know what kind of ailments she might have, but, you know, diabetics, they can't be without daily medication. I mean, it can be really dangerous. Right? And so what I can tell you is that sheriff Nanos made it abundantly clear that the investigators do not believe that Nancy Guthrie walked out of her house of her own volition. They said she was taken out of that house, forced out of that house. They say she can't walk more than 50 yards on her own. So that might take you to a driveway, right? Might take you to a long driveway. But after that, it's not like whoever takes her or forces her is going to be able to walk her a long way away to a waiting vehicle that was trying to, you know, spirit themselves away from any cameras that might see them. Nancy Guthrie couldn't walk that far. So now this sort of opens the mystery up, right? If someone's forcing her out of the house, where are they forcing her to? Because if she can only get, you know, kind of to the driveway or just a little bit down the driveway, but barely, barely, barely much longer. There has to be a car in the vicinity, some kind of a vehicle. I asked the sheriff about this. You're going to hear from him and what he had to say. And actually, he was quite surprised at the line of questioning. So I've already said she doesn't. They don't believe that she left alone. But more troubling than that, the authorities have confirmed that her cell phone was at the home. There is a report, local report, that says her purse, wallet, cell phone, vehicle, all found at the home. Sheriff confirmed definitely the. The cell phone and her vehicle. He was going to look up just to double check on the. On the purse and the wallet. But it sort of stands to reason, doesn't it? You know, if you're leaving your home and you're leaving your cell phone and your medication, and I should tell you, the sheriff talked why they believe that she's without her medication. We'll talk about that in just a second. The detectives are now fanning out all throughout the neighborhood, going door to door, asking people, help us. Give us anything you have. If you have knowledge, if you saw something, if you. There was a vehicle, you'd never Seen before, didn't think much of it. No detail is too small. Always say that. No detail is too small. They're also asking for ring cam because always catches them, right? Surveillance footage. It always catches them. There are eyes everywhere. And let's just hope that in this particular neighborhood seems a bit rural, but there's going to be some kind of surveillance, right? Even Teslas, they got cameras going at all times. If they're. If they have that setting, you know, turned on. Teslas can actually operate as like a 360 camera. A bad guy can run by a Tesla and you can see it. Right? So there could be things like that. And then of course, the ring cams, that's what they're really looking for. They're asking everybody for their surveillance footage, and they're already getting it in. And now it's just a matter of real time eyeballs. And you know what that takes. It takes real time. One person on one camera going slowly so that you don't just miss a little figure. You can't just sort of half watch it or speed it up. It's one person looking at that in real time for the duration of the time that she's been missing. So 9:45 at night, you got to watch all those hours because you have no idea what the actual time of the disappearance is. So it is a very long and grueling process for law enforcement to go over cameras, especially multiple. Multiple cameras. Right? Cameras is a really interesting story at Nancy Guthrie's house because there are cameras. Cameras in her house. And I asked the sheriff, inside or outside, you're going to get that answer. And what they're doing with them right now, if there were cameras inside, I mean, you know, that would have been the whole game, right? But they don't believe there's any cameras inside the house. They do say there are cameras outside the house and that they are reviewing, but it's not as easy, right. Just to like grab a camera and push play. There are all sorts of issues with that. And so the detect the. And so the sheriff is going to go through with you what they have to go through in order to access whatever's on the cameras. But that could be a boon, right? Huge amount of evidence. So they're in the process of doing that, getting into it to get it reviewed. And when asked what. Whether Savannah Guthrie herself is there. She is. She beelined it from New York, right. She was supposed to be on the air this morning, but she was down in her hometown at her mom's house. By today and helping. Sheriff Nano said that she's been incredibly helpful and so has the rest of the Guthrie family. So that's really lucky. And I actually spoke to the sheriff about how knowledgeable Savannah is because she's a lawyer and she does a lot of true crime. So she's going to be extraordinary. Extraordinary in terms of being able to provide detectives with all the things that they need and the things they may not even know about Nancy, that they need. I asked the sheriff if Savannah Guthrie or her security team has received any threats or requests for ransom. He will give you that answer in just a moment. He said investigators aren't dismissing any angles of the story. I should tell you this as well. This is a really big week for Savannah. She was scheduled to be in Italy on Friday for the opening ceremony of the Olympics. And if I could tell you I did this once I covered the Olympics for NBC. And I'll tell you, the amount of research and planning and studying and logistics in order to get to day one of the Olympics is massive. So she is now going to be sitting that out, and that is very, very hard. This is a massive thing. Only comes every four years. And so she will not be doing this. She will not be doing the Olympics coverage, which is heartbreaking. And they'll have to get somebody in and up to speed real fast four days before it all starts. Instead, Savannah is living a nightmare with her siblings and her family, trying desperately to find out what has happened to her own mother. So earlier I had this incredible conversation, as I said, with the Pima County Sheriff, Chris Nanos. 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Here's my conversation now with Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos. This has been really confounding and pretty grueling.
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You know, it's never easy. These are tough cases. But I just have such confidence in my team. They time and time again have proven themselves, and I just know we're going to get this result.
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Is there an area in Nancy Guthrie's house of particular interest where it. It was more clear that it was a crime than some other circumstance?
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You know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Again, I can't talk to specifics about what we have in that home, but there is definitely, in our eyes, on our belief, evidence that shows it suggests that she was removed from that home and against her will. And we continue to look at some data that we think is available. It's just taking some time to get downloads and that whether it's digital imagery from a camera to tracking a cell phone, there's just a lot going on in technological sense of gathering that kind of evidence. So that's all taking place. I think I mentioned we're working with a lot of partners, not just in the law enforcement community, but in the private sector. Some of the big corporations, Apple, Google, whatever, they're all jumping in. So it's just. It's never fast enough. Right. So that's. That's our challenge.
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There was a report that the front door was wide open. Is there any veracity to that report?
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You know, I don't. I don't know that that's accurate, because it could be. I know that when we got there, we got there, the. Was already there, and they were. They had already spent some time looking, as you would expect. Probably we got an hour delay there from them. Not anything intentional, just that, you know, they went and looked and made some calls, and then they decided, we better call 911.
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So was the homicide team able to ascertain any unique footprints outside Nancy's home or even inside?
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Yeah, I cannot give you that. I would tell you that it is our belief she did not leave that residence on foot.
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Did not leave the residence. That the actual home itself on foot, did not walk over the threshold.
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That is correct. We do not believe she left that home by herself on foot. That did not occur. And she has a vehicle. We have that vehicle. She is very capable of driving. Her physical limitation is really just her. Her ability to move, to walk and these things. But she's certainly got a very, like I say, very sharp as attack. Mind is function. She's got her wits about her, and she can drive, you know. Yeah. So no.
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But purse, cell phone, keys, wallet, and what else was left in the home that would very much indicate. You don't leave it out?
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I don't know of all those items. I do know we've got our cell phone. The rest of those items I really haven't heard that.
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Interesting. I heard you say earlier cell phone, that you were in possession of her cell phone. There was a local report from Tucson saying the purse, cell phone and keys and vehicle were all at the home.
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That that could be accurate, but I can't say speak to that. I'd have to ask my team.
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Okay. Is there any missing bedding from the home?
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Again, I can't speak to that.
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Okay. Was there any blood found in the home?
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You know, there's DNA evidence, we believe that we have found, that we are going to submit has been submitted for rapid DNA testing. Once that breaks down to us, it's. I think we had to get it up to Phoenix. Everybody's rapid DNA testing machine here locally for whatever reason was out or out of service. But that is being looked at. Once we get that, we will submit what we can through CODIS and whatever else. You know, whatever other DNA companies we need. We will. Those things will be rush orders. We use a here from the sheriff's department, DL Labs, and they do us pretty good on rush orders. That can get us usually 5 to 10 days.
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Are you able to tell me where did the d. Where was the DNA found that would indicate that this was DNA that was valuable to you?
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It's. It's from the home is all I can tell you.
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Door handles.
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I cannot go there. Yeah. The reason being, Ms. Banfield, is simply this. It's. It's. I can tell everybody. We're not trying to be secretive. We understand everybody really wants to know what. What's going on there. But there are certain things in that home that we know only the intruder knows about and the things that occurred. And we don't want that information out. We need to protect fully respect that. Yeah.
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It's been to this rodeo many times and I understand your limitations and I respect them without question. I'll ask. Please feel free to tell me if you can.
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Thank you.
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I just don't want to come across you. I appreciate you. Cameras. I heard you say in your press conference there were cameras at the home, I believe. But I wanted to ask you if there are cameras inside the home and outside the home.
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I know cameras outside. I don't know what was found inside pertaining cameras. I really just don't know that. But I do know they found some cameras outside that we're trying to get help from the companies and the makers of those cameras to see what else we can get out of them.
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So you're looking to access them, but at this point it's an Access issue you haven't been able to access.
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Correct. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they could be, you know, they could be cloud based. We're not finding that. It could also be just on a server somewhere. We would, rather than ourselves go into it, let the companies that are experts in this to take their time and get us what we can.
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And of course, Savannah and the family would probably be privy to passwords with an elderly relative. We all have elderly relatives.
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Oh, sure. And the, and the family is so cooperative. They're. Every time they're, they're. They want, they want their mom back.
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And Savannah, with a criminal justice background and a lawyer is going to be extraordinarily helpful as a, you know, as, as a teammate. More so than the average victim's family member might be.
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Oh, yeah. You know, I don't know what an average victim family would be like, but I would.
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They don't think like you. They don't. They don't think like you. But Savannah is brilliant.
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Yeah. I have no doubt. I. No doubt.
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We used to work together and we're colleagues and we're friends. And so this is very personal to me as well as my daughter, my friend.
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She's a good lady with a good heart. And we're not going to give up. We'll get into that.
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License plate readers and other zoom, excuse me, ringtimers and license plate readers in that vicinity. Have you been able to get them? Have you been able to.
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Look, all of those things have been requested for preservation, been sent to us. So we're in the process of doing.
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All that, getting eyeballs on them, but nothing so far. No prowler in the neighborhood so far that you've been able to identify?
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No, we've not identified any suspect. Now remember, there are people out in the, out at. In that neighborhood right now and they're doing some things. Maybe they've learned something that I'm not aware of yet. But so far I've not been brief to anything like that.
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In the Tepe murder in Columbus, Ohio, the police came up very quickly with a figure, a sort of a skulking figure walking through the back alley. And they now say this, that allegedly is Monique Tepe's ex husband and that he was the double murderer. So these images can be extraordinary and.
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There'S, There is no doubt. That's why I say we really want to be careful about any kind of person of interest until we get that digital download and can say, hey, this may be somebody we need to be looking at.
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I also want to be very Clear about the wording. I don't want to get this wrong. You mentioned she did not leave that home on foot. And I want to make sure that you're talking about she did not walk out that front door, even with someone, that somebody took her out that front door and passed her driveway.
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So I'm not going to tell you what door they used or anything. We believe she was forced out of her home. Whether she walked out of her home or was carried out, that we don't know. But we do know she left that home against her will.
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And, and thank you for the clarity. I do. I do remember hearing you say that Mrs. Guthrie, her limited mobility limits her to walking barely 50 yards, which would indicate that a car would have had to be close by in order to make some kind of egress, find tire tracks.
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You should have this badge on you. You think like us. Yes, that's exactly right. We agree. We think that, look, her, the family tells us she couldn't walk 50 yards. It just couldn't. And you know, I think there's some frustration about, well, why are you continuing searching if you know she can't walk 50 yards? And it is because it is a process. We have to follow those processes even if they don't make sense to some people. Because what if we're wrong? What if we just miss something? We don't want to be there. We want to make sure we've done as thorough job on both ends on the search and rescue mission piece and the criminal investigative piece.
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Any indication of tire tracks that weren't her vehicle?
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No, we don't have any tire tracks.
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No.
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None that we have nothing to go on for tire tracks. Because again, with her limited mobility, to get her any further away from the front of that house would have, would have required some kind of a conveyance, a vehicle of some kind.
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Again, that's, that's our belief. And, and of course, I think the driveway, it's not, it's not going to be conducive that, that surface. It's not a, it's not a, it's almost like a, not even a gravel, but it is almost a paved surface. So it wouldn't be conducive to no mud?
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No, no. Unusual, you know, how mud can be brought from another region area, and that's very helpful in the investigation. But nothing like that?
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No, we're not seeing anything that's, that suggests that.
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And no snow. So no snow tracks?
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No.
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Did she have a security system?
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No, I don't believe so. I, I, I We've not heard that. I. I don't believe she did.
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I heard you make a mention and it.
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You're talking about like an alarm.
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Yeah, like an alarm system.
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No, we've not heard anything like that.
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Okay. I heard you mentioned. It just broke my heart. There were upwards of 100 security vehicles, law enforcement vehicles at this home. I mean, this is an all out assault on finding.
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Yeah, because it's unusual that, you know, we get so many search and rescue missions. I trust our search and rescue teams and they have probably close to 100 volunteers in that regard. But they get out and they do such a great job. But in this briefing I received yesterday in the middle of the day was. It was, it was, it was a briefing that alerted me to something at that house that said, no, there's something really not right here. And, you know, you've been doing this for 50 years. You get a gut instinct. I've had gut instincts before and been wrong too, so trust me. But I just felt like there's more here than just a regular search and rescue mission. Allow search and rescue to do what they do. They do it well. But at the same time, let's get our homicide team started and get them out there. That's kind of unusual for us, but I just felt like, no, this one something's not. Something doesn't fit.
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Have you had any calls? Has Savannah and her security team had any calls? Because sometimes a disappearance like this, when there's a high profile member of a family, will result in a ransom like situation.
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No. You know, first of all, the family's been great, as you know, them and Savannah and our team and myself have been in communication throughout this. It is devastating for them. They are definitely very concerned, rightfully so. But we, you know, we talked with her security team and, and with a number of different law enforcement agencies from federal, state, to local, and nobody's heard anything like that.
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So that's also just expands the mystery.
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Yeah, I mean. I mean, it's possible. I mean, maybe somebody will do that, but we've not heard that. In fact, I think the plea from Savannah and the family is. And it might be. Look, if you know where she's at, let her go. Just call us. We'll come and pick her up. Because there is a very big time element. What are we, 5 o' clock in the evening? Is we're well beyond 24 hours. And from what we understand medically, if she doesn't have her medication, which we don't think she does, it can be fatal.
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You saw her medication left at the house.
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We believe from the family's report, it is. She has no medicine available to her.
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Is there other than that, which is extraordinarily serious, Is there anything that is an indication in that house that Mrs. Guthrie may still be alive or may not be alive?
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C
You know, we always want to hope, right? We don't want to lose that hope. My team, the Guthrie family, this community, we will continue to search until something suggests otherwise. Certainly we want to believe that she's alive and we'll find her safe and sound, return her. But I would be very neglectful as a law enforcement officer, as a law enforcement agency to just dismiss things that we're seeing in front of us that indicate a crime. And so that's why we took two different avenues of approach on this and.
- [33:46]
B
Very quickly turned away from the search and rescue. I heard you say it's. It's permanently suspended unless need be, as. As you move forward. But, I mean, you've been to this rodeo a long time, and you see a scene and you get a gut feeling. Did you have a gut feeling with this scene?
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C
You know, I had a gut feeling about what was being told to me about what's being seen and done there. I was out there last night talking to the investigators. I think we all have some great concerns about what we're looking at, but we also know we have to be careful. I mean, we hope that, you know, it's happened before. The police is. The sheriff is, oh, this person's dead. And this, that, and that. And the next thing you know, some hospital calls and says, hey, I think I've got this lady in my hospital room. So, you know, we're never going to give up hope. That's why you guys are so critical to us. Somebody out there sees something, says, maybe they'll see her. We've gotten calls like that, hey, I think I saw her in Flagstaff. Hey, I think I saw her here. And so we'll chase those leads down.
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B
Can you send more pictures to us of Mrs. Guthrie? I'm sure the family has supplied you with lots, right?
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C
No, we really haven't. I think that is the most recent, what they defined to us as. This is her. This is. But, you know, if you think that's going to help, I'm sure they'll accommodate us.
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B
That is the biggest thing. If we can get pictures of her out everywhere and there are millions of eyeballs. See that woman that.
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C
Just.
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B
Especially if they see a woman who's with someone who doesn't look like he should be with her. And I'm not saying it's a he.
- [35:26]
C
No, I understand. You know, I'll talk to our team and see what they've done in that regard. But, yeah, that's something that's not even really become an issue. I think the family felt comfortable that somebody. This one will identify her.
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B
Have you had a chance to track down any. Any staff members who work with Mrs. Guthrie or do contract work at her house or clean or caregive or do odd jobs, any of that? Have you got a list of all the people?
- [35:58]
C
Yeah, that's. That's part of the process. You know, we. We know she's, you know, a gardener, a pool company, a landscaper, house servant, whatever it may be. We. We've got those names and where. We contacted some. We're in the process of contacting others just to get a feel from them, a sense from them. One, do they know anything, but more importantly, maybe learn something from them about her daily habits and what the house should look like or the yard should look like, those kinds of things.
- [36:32]
B
Yeah, I mean, that's. That's a good point. Given the fact that you feel strongly that there's a crime that was committed in that home and that she did not leave of her own volition, which would tell me that there's either blood or there is a disaster area. There was, like, a scene of a struggle. Would it be fair to say there was a scene of a Struggle.
- [36:52]
C
I cannot get into that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I just say the condition of the home as it was represented to us before we even arrived was, of course, concern. When we got there, that concern did not diminish.
- [37:09]
B
Can you expound on that, the concern of the home before you arrived?
- [37:13]
C
Well, I'm just saying, when I got briefed, I think it was almost 2:00 in the afternoon, patrol units had responded, they called out search and rescue, and they just saw some things that were concerning to them. And I looked at it and thought, yeah, this is. This is not. This is unusual. We need to. We need to do the search and rescue piece. That's without a doubt. But we really need to start get our. The longer we wait, the tougher that crime to solve is. We know that. Let's get our homicide team out there now.
- [37:44]
B
Is that because they saw something outside the home that was concerning as well as inside the home?
- [37:49]
C
Both. Both. I'll say that the home, it's outside, inside. All of that had some concerns for us.
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A
I have the link.
- [38:01]
C
Okay.
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A
Should I tell them you're logging on now?
- [38:04]
B
I'm gonna get them off the phone right now.
- [38:06]
C
I have somebody who's trying to get me on there.
- [38:11]
B
One last question.
- [38:12]
C
Go ahead.
- [38:14]
B
Would it be fair to call this a kidnapping?
- [38:16]
C
Yeah, you know, I think I created some confusion. I say a lot of stuff. I'm trying to be as consistent as I can. You know, when you're taken from your home without. Against your will. Yeah. That abduction, kidnapping, you know, all of those things apply. It's really semantics.
- [38:44]
B
Do you have any thoughts about a vehicle in that area that hadn't been there before? Has anybody reported anything like that?
- [38:55]
C
Nothing. Nothing like that. We're. We're still looking at all the cameras we can, but nothing.
- [39:00]
B
Sheriff, thank you so much. If there's anything that we can do to help you, please reach out. We see a lot of people and we reach a lot of people and we'd like to help.
- [39:08]
C
You've been awesome. Thank you, miss.
- [39:10]
B
Thank you. Best of luck. So it stands to reason, it's really important to share this, this podcast as far as you can. Share it far and wide. Okay. Because even if you share it to somebody in Washington state, they may know somebody down in this community. So share it as far as you can. And anybody with information, please call Sheriff Chris Nanos office phone number is 520-351-4900. I'm going to say it again, I'm going to put it in the description as well. Sheriff Chris Nanos 520-351-4900 more eyes, the better, y'.
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D
All.
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B
I know when we crowdsource this stuff, we can really make a difference. It has happened. That's how Gabby Petito was found. So please, help us be a part of finding out what happened to Savannah Guthrie's mom. It's important to me. I know it's important to you, too. Thank you so much for watching. Thank you so much for listening. And remember, the truth isn't just serious. It's drop dead serious.
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D
Sa.