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Guaranteed they know more than we do. However, on this episode tonight, I've got somebody just fantastic. I mean, God, Maureen o' Connell has always amazed me, right? She looks like she's this a pretty delicate little flower and she's just, she's one tough lady. She spent 25 years in the FBI as a special agent, and she knows her shit. I had this incredibly detailed conversation with her about specifics, about facts in this case and specifics. And she weighs in on stuff she hasn't said elsewhere and other people haven't said either. Really interesting stuff. Also, did you hear that there is now a signal sniffer that's entered the story? Interesting, because Matt Murphy and I talked several days ago about figuring out some way to get Nancy Guthrie's phone to sort of fly over houses within 30ft because it might reconnect to her pacemaker. Pacemakers don't die. They don't go away. Even if she's alive or dead, the pacemaker is still going. The signal sniffer apparently is supposed to do that job. I'm going to go into detail about the signal sniffer. And one thing that I don't understand about the method that they're using is. So it's a bit weird, but I will get to that in a second. Also, big question for you, if you were up with me until 4 o' clock in the morning last night. Thank you. I appreciate the company. But also, I kept thinking to myself as vehicle after vehicle kept entering the perimeter, dozens of federal and local law enforcement vehicles, SWAT vehicles, forensic vehicles, FBI vehicles marked unmarked, sheriff's deputies, all the rest. I kept thinking, there's a lot of vehicles. There's a lot of manpower. There's one guy, there's one guy who, albeit dangerous, got that. But most people have made a joke of him. They don't know what he's doing. He's kind of a dope. Some people have even said that the way he carries his gun is called a Mexican carry. Never heard that before. But that it is not professional. And this is like how you would respond to Ted Kaczynski, you know. Anyway, I'm going to ask Maureen about that. She's got something interesting to say about it. And then also, the sheriff has some new statements. I'm going to read those for you. A little bit of everything, including, you know what, Strap in, pour a drink. It's going to happen a lot. Very interesting. What we saw last night and in Rio Rico is going to happen a lot. He said it's going to happen more than once. So I will read that for you so that you hear it word for word. New York Times had a really interesting story about the man who lived next door to the woman whose house was raided. And it is really fascinating to hear what happened to him and how she became part of his night and everything that transpired I'm going to tell you about that in a second. Also, the hitman theory. Have you been thinking it? I know a lot of people have been thinking it. Was this guy, Was he. Was he for hire? Did he show up there because he was paid, because he was hired to do this? A lot of people have said, really looks like he knows the place. Maybe. Maybe he knows it. Maybe he's familiar. Maybe he was told about it. Gonna get into that with Maureen because she's got something to say about that. And Maureen is really interesting in how she weighs in on this whole Florida lab controversy and the whole bitch scrap that everybody's making hay about. Between the feds and the locals, she's got a very different take on that. You're gonna hear that in a second, too. And then I dig down on that balaclava. I am not over this balaclava. The ski mask everyone's talking about, the backpack. There's hundreds of those things sold at Walmart. But who buys a ski mask in Arizona? Who buys a balaclava in Arizona? Okay, a couple skiers here and there. But there's something different about that ski mask. And since I'm a skier, I'm going to tell you exactly why. I don't believe a lot of skiers buy that. Even Arizonans. Show you what I'm talking about in a minute, but that's coming up in just a second. All right, so let me go through a bit of the last 24 hours, and honest to God, it hasn't been 24 hours because I was up till 4am I think some of y' all were, too. And we're at the two week mark. Two weeks isn't, believe it or not, it feels like an eternity. And if you're the Guthrie family, it is an eternity. Let's not forget their mother, grandmother. This is a real person. And they are hurting. They are really hurting. Can't imagine. Just imagine if it's yours. Just imagine if it's your mom. But two weeks in law enforcement isn't unless you're dealing with a missing person, which time is of the essence. But solving a crime, which is, I think, what a lot of us are trying to sort of think through. Two weeks is not a lot of time. And so there's a certain element of patience that we all have to kind of adopt. And I know it is hard, right, because this is a batshit crazy story. And something crazy happens almost every five minutes. But you're going to hear Maureen o' Connell weigh in on that because she did it for 25 years. A quarter century of experience. She knows a thing or two. Also, we had a federal warrant executed last night. So it wasn't one of these court approved searches, which was what happened in Rio Rico. No, this was a warrant. It was got, it was gotten, it was gat by the feds. I'm going to ask Marina about the significance of that because I thought it was unique, especially since the sheriff did not put out the statement as per the request of the feds. That was interesting. Three people detained, nobody held, nobody arrested. Right. So it kind of went nowhere. Which I'm sure as you all woke up was the first thing you did. Right. What was it you got on your phone? What happened? I was so tired, I couldn't stay awake. Nothing. Nothing. And I still have a lot of questions about what happened because I watched as they towed off a silver Range Rover that they had put privacy screens up to. Take a look in the back. And we all know that privacy screens are usually reserved for bodies. No word about that from the sheriff, but shall read you his entire statement and everything he said today. But also Brianton said that when he talked to law enforcement, they said while there were no arrests last night, they're still following up, quote on leads from last night. And one of the things that I learned from so many of these super smart law enforcement people that I've worked with, that I've befriended, that I've stayed in contact with, is that a lead is kind of like a ripple, right? You throw a rock in the water and there's one ripple and then suddenly it's just lots of ripples. One lead can actually ripple into a lot of different leads. So you just imagine with the tens of thousands of leads that have come into the sheriff's department and also to the FBI, every single one of them is looked at. Now multiply them exponentially because each lead can actually multiply into a rabbit hole. Sometimes it's a good rabbit hole. Sometimes it really does take you to where you want to go. But that may be the factor of last night when they say that. Still following up on leads from last night. So let me read you the sheriff's statement that I woke up to this morning. You may have already read it, but I want you to listen to the words specifically because, you know, words matter. Good morning, media partners, law enforcement activity, colon. Lastly, the federal court ordered search warrant was executed at a residence near East Orange Grove Road and North First Avenue in connection with the Guthrie case. The warrant was based on a lead we Received. No arrests were made. A traffic stop was also conducted. A person was questioned, but no arrests resulted from that incident. There are no further details available at that time. I'm going to pause for a second because that's what pissed me off. It's like, hold it. There was a lot of confusion. There's a guy that was sitting in the back of a sheriff's vehicle being interrogated by what looked like an FBI officer and maybe another sheriff's deputy. He was kind of, like, obscured, but he looked like he was wearing a white hoodie. He definitely had some facial hair. And there was talk that he might have actually been related to the folks who were pulled out of the house. The woman and the man. Some said mother and son. Some said this might have been another son. But there was some connection between these two stops, but we just don't know what was the connection. Was he the target of all of this? And the questioning happened there and the alibi panned out?