HORRIFYING New Evidence in the Rebecca Park Murder | Full Arrest Affidavit

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Drop Dead Serious with Ashleigh Banfield

Episode: HORRIFYING New Evidence in the Rebecca Park Murder | Full Arrest Affidavit
Date: December 15, 2025
Host: Ashleigh Banfield

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Episode Overview

In this extremely intense and information-rich episode, Ashleigh Banfield does a full deep-dive into the newly released, lengthy arrest affidavit in the brutal and horrific murder of Rebecca Park—a case involving her own mother, Courtney Bartholomew, and Courtney’s husband, Bradley Bartholomew, both now charged in the crime. Banfield departs from her usual format to painstakingly walk listeners through the law enforcement document, breaking down its dense details with her characteristic irreverent yet deeply empathetic style. The episode is a rollercoaster of gruesome evidence, shifting alibis, tangled relationships, and jaw-dropping confessions, all delivered almost verbatim from the source material, with Ashleigh’s running commentary, insight, and disbelief.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Case Background (03:00–06:00)

• Rebecca Park, two weeks from giving birth, was reported missing and later found murdered and mutilated. Authorities allege her mother and stepfather are responsible.
• The case shockingly involves allegations of a live C-section performed to remove Rebecca’s unborn baby, which was not found alive.

Quote:
"I'm just gonna say it like the police believe that she had the C-section performed on her while she was still alive. So anyway, it's awful, awful stuff." (Ashleigh Banfield, 04:45)

2. Initial Missing Persons Investigation (06:00–10:30)

• Rebecca was last seen at her mother Courtney’s rural home. Courtney claims Rebecca left with an unknown person in a black sedan at night—a story Ashleigh immediately doubts.
• Courtney says she found Rebecca’s phone nearby after being sent a GPS location by Rebecca’s sister; the phone was handed to Rebecca’s fiancé, Richard Fowler, and later to police.

Quote:
"Let's just call a spade a spade. This is probably full bullshit on the part of Courtney. She's just trying to say, yeah, yeah, Rebecca left and nothing to see here, never saw her again. Highly unlikely." (Ashleigh, 07:54)

3. Rebecca’s Mother’s Narrative Unravels (10:30–24:00)

• Authorities begin to doubt Courtney’s cover story; evidence mounts that both Courtney and Bradley were lying.
• Texts reveal Courtney was claiming to have a newborn baby in the NICU just after Rebecca went missing, trying to solicit baby items from family.
• Deeply tangled relationships: Courtney, her daughter Rebecca, and Richard Fowler were all romantically intertwined at various times; paternity of Courtney’s own pregnancy is uncertain, adding drama and possible motive.

Quote:
"Courtney then became pregnant and was unsure who the father might be. Bradley, her husband, or Richard, her daughter's fiancé, who she's broken up with. I mean, God, you cannot write this stuff." (Ashleigh, 17:30)

4. Shifting Stories & Police Interviews (24:00–42:00)

• Both Courtney and Bradley provide contradictory timelines and alibis about the day Rebecca vanished, centering on car swaps, fake alibis, and mysterious phone pings.
• Discussions of cash envelopes, inheritance lures, and alleged motives begin to surface; Courtney appears to orchestrate encounters at her house.
• Cell phone data, witness timelines, and contradictory statements all point to the Bartholomews’ involvement.

5. Discovery and Processing of the Crime Scene (42:00–48:00)

• Rebecca’s body is located by a community member, showing clear evidence of mutilation, with the fetus missing.
• The autopsy reveals multiple stab wounds—specifically to the back, arms, neck, face (noting the personal nature of facial wounds)—and a botched C-section indicating a lack of medical skill.

Quote:
"Stabbed twice in the face. That is personal. I've done these crimes before, and when you're shot or stabbed in the face, it is personal." (Ashleigh, 46:50)

6. Breakdown of Confessions and Accusations (48:00–80:00)

• Police interrogations (full of Miranda warnings that are promptly not used) show both Courtney and Bradley blaming each other in progressively shifting narratives.
• Bradley admits to some involvement, details the burning and disposal of evidence (like seat covers and the murder weapon), and describes Courtney as obsessed with wanting another baby.
• Courtney, under pressure and seeking immunity, offers to tell police where the weapon and infant can be found, leading to information about the baby’s remains being dumped in trash via a blue cooler.
• Both Courtney and Bradley alternately confess and deflect, attempting to minimize their own roles; both admit to hiding evidence, but their stories directly conflict in critical areas.

Quote:
"When you are told you have the right to remain silent, use it. This moron didn't. He thought he was smarter. He was given the right and he waived it. He just kept talking." (Ashleigh, 49:32)

• Notable: Courtney attempted to frame Rebecca's sister Kimberly by planting evidence.

7. Recounting the Night of the Murder (80:00–95:00)

• The deeply confused sequence of events is pieced together:
  • Courtney lures Rebecca to her house with a fake story about money and laundry supplies; Rebecca is ultimately forced (or coerced) into a vehicle with Courtney and Bradley.
  • Rebecca is stabbed—accounts vary as to where (inside the vehicle, outside on a wooded trail)—and, while still alive, a crude C-section is performed by Courtney, attempting to extract the infant.
  • Both claim the baby was not breathing post-delivery; the body is disposed of in the woods, covered with leaves, while the baby is bagged and dumped in the garbage.
  • Both continue to point fingers, claiming the other was the instigator or main perpetrator, but only in an effort to reduce their own culpability.

Quote:
"Courtney said she started her incision along her belly, and Bradley told her to cut downward. It would be easier...Rebecca Park's abdomen had incised wounds. The placenta was hanging from the open abdominal wound with attached umbilical cord, and the fetus was absent." (Courtney and Ashleigh, 92:05)

• Ashleigh points out the callous, chilling nature of their attempts to appear innocent ("Counting garbage bags? Really? You know that two of them are gone? She's so full of shit it's unbelievable.").

8. Law Enforcement and Legal Analysis (95:00–End)

• Ashleigh notes the difficulty for prosecutors given the inconsistent, confusing narratives and the poorly written affidavit, but remains convinced the evidence is damning.
• Predicts both Courtney and Bradley will face convictions for premeditated first-degree murder and multiple aggravating charges, stating neither’s shifting story will fool authorities or the public.

Quote:
"None of this bodes well for Courtney Bartholomew. None of this bodes well for Bradley Bartholomew. The two of them together. And I'm going to go out on a limb here. Big prediction. They are going down for premeditated first degree murder, right?" (Ashleigh, 96:23)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the macabre family dynamics:
  "You cannot write this stuff." (Ashleigh, 17:30)
• On the changing alibis and blame games:
  "Neither one of them is told the truth from the get go. And when confronted with very uncomfortable and inconvenient truths, they change their stories, but continually lie again."
• On the investigation’s depth:
  "You are also the kind of super curious type that is the ultimate true crime fan. Because people like us, we want every detail. We want the nitty gritty we want to know exactly what they said and when and when they changed it. And friends, you got it. You got it all right here." (Ashleigh, 97:12)
• On the heinousness and sentencing:
  "They're going to be treated, in my estimation, as co conspirators in this first degree murder and this torture of Rebecca Park. But that's where we leave this episode." (Ashleigh, 96:54)

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Key Timestamps

• 03:00–06:00 – Episode/Case Introduction
• 07:50 – Courtney's Suspect Cover Story
• 17:30 – Romantic Entanglements and Motive
• 46:50 – Description of Facial Stab Wounds
• 49:32 – Advice on using Miranda Rights
• 80:00–95:00 – Detailed Confessions and Disposal of Evidence
• 92:05 – Courtney's Detailed Surgical Description
• 96:23–97:00 – Ashleigh's Legal Predictions
• 97:12 – Closing words on the true crime fandom

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Tone and Style

Ashleigh Banfield delivers the harrowing details in her trademark direct and irreverent way, alternating between empathetic commentary, sarcastic asides, and exasperated reactions to the wild inconsistencies and depravity revealed in the affidavit. She pulls no punches critiquing the protagonists, the legal process, and the procedural messiness, making the darkest aspects of the case accessible to true crime devotees who crave details.

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Conclusion

This episode is not for the faint of heart, but is required listening (or, in this case, reading) for anyone interested in the extremes of true crime storytelling and the dark realities faced by investigators and families. Ashleigh goes beyond typical recaps, giving her audience minute-by-minute insight into the complex, disturbing, and at times almost unbelievable twists of the Rebecca Park case, ensuring listeners are up to date with every shred of (often grotesque) detail from the official record.

Transcript

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Hey everybody, I'm Ashley Banfield and this is drop dead serious. I just did an episode on the murder of Rebecca park and her, well, unborn baby who we think was born. We're just not sure what exactly happened. We know one thing. Rebecca park was mutilated. She was was two weeks away from giving birth and she was murdered, stabbed to death and her baby was cut from her womb. The, the authorities believe that it was her own mother and her mother's husband that did this. And the stories that those two have told are just insane. Right? So I told the story, but I've got my hands on this like 40 page affidavit here and the details are so deep that I just kind of thought you might want to hear it like verbatim. Like it's a deep dive. And the details, I just figured there's so much here that you just can't include in a regular podcast. So this is kind of a different episode. Pour yourself like a toddy or something and get yourself into the beanbag chair because this is really, really rich in information. And it's straight from the police, right? So this is the stuff that they believe they've got on Courtney and Bradley Bartholomew, the de facto parents of the woman who died such a despicably horrible death. Torture and death. I'm just gonna say it like the police believe that she had the C section performed on her while she was still alive. So anyway, it's awful, awful stuff. So I'm going to tell you all about it. I'm going to go into deep detail. I also wanted to let you know that I have finally opened up the merch store for Drop Dead Serious. And you need your holiday presents because I'm pretty sure you didn't get them done yet. Right. And I'm giving you 20 off everything site wide. So I've got the tees and the hoodies and the crewnecks and the joggers and the tumblers and the notebooks and the blankets and the mugs and everything. You know, something for the high end of your list and there's something for the low end that you don't care as much for, but you got to buy something. So anyway, just make sure you go to shop drop dead serious.com shop drop dead serious.com until Friday of this week. And I'm recording this on December 10th, 20% off site wide. And you don't even need a code? No, I'm just going to give it to you because it's, you know, it's the holidays. I got the poinsettias going, so. All right, like I said, do you have your hot toddy or whatever it is you're going to need? And I do suggest something because this stuff is. Yeah, it's gross. Let's just start. And again, apologies for reading, but it's straight from the horse's mouth. So here we go. On November 4, 2025 at 12:44, Wexford County Central dispatch received a call from Kimberly sue park reporting that her sister, Rebecca K. Park, had not been seen since November 3, 2025 at approximately 23:30 at this is an address 30 South 212 Road in Boone Township of Wexford County. Deputy Reed began Wexford County Sheriff's Office incident report 832-502-2044 as a missing person investigation at the time of the report, Rebecca park was 38 weeks pregnant and living with her boyfriend, Richard Lee Fowler. And again, it's an address at 1531 North 41 and a half road in Cedar Creek Township. Deputy Reed spoke with Courtney Marie Bartholomew, who is Rebecca Park's biological mother and lives at yet Again, weird address, 30 South 212 Road. A lot of very strange addresses, but I think it's kind of a rural area. So a lot of these are rural addresses. Courtney reported that she was with Rebecca park the night prior until approximately 8:30pm when an unidentified friend picked Rebecca up from Courtney's residence. Courtney had picked Rebecca up from 1531 North 41 and a half road to spend some time together and get ice cream from Culver's. On the way to Culver's, Rebecca told Courtney she needed tide pods. So Courtney returned to her address at 30 South 21 and a half road to get some tide pods for her. Courtney went to the residence, grabbed the tide pods, and came outside. When she came outside, Rebecca told her that she was going to wait at the residence for a friend to pick her up. They waited a couple of minutes, and a black sedan with tinted windows pulled across the road from the residence. Rebecca proceeded across the road and got into the front passenger seat of the vehicle. Let's just call a spade a spade. This is probably full bullshit on the part of Courtney. She's just trying to say, yeah, yeah, Rebecca left and nothing to see here, never saw her again. Highly unlikely. This is where Rebecca likely died. It's this night at this home in the woods behind the home. Okay. Courtney did not know the specific make or model of the sedan or the number of occupants in the car. She could not tell if the driver was male or female. She said that after this, she did not see Rebecca again. Courtney reported to Deputy Reed that she was contacted by Rebecca's fiance, Richard Fowler, regarding her location. Later that night, Courtney informed Rich she did not know where Rebecca was and that she had left with a friend. Courtney was contacted by Kimberly park the morning of November 4, 2025, and was sent a screenshot of the location where Rebecca's phone was was pinging at. Courtney told Deputy Reed that she proceeded down the road on West 26 Road where she found Rebecca's phone lying by the two track just off West 26th Road. This location is less than 200 yards from 30 South 21 and a half road. Right. That's Courtney's home. Courtney checked the phone and thought Rebecca may have dropped it when she was using the restroom. Courtney reported that she took the phone to Richard Fowler's residence on Tuesday, November 4, 2025 and turned it over to him on Wednesday, November 6, 2025. D lt. Pisker and I'm guessing that means Detective Lieutenant Pisker, but I'm not sure. Could be Deputy Lieutenant Pisker. They never say they met with Kimberly park when she arrived at the Wexford County Sheriff's Office. Park had suggested that she might know where Rebecca park is when she arrived at the Sheriff's office. When I asked her about this, she played me a voice message from Courtney Bartholomew that said that Ariah Clark had called her and said that two people in a car had pulled up to the revival center looking for Narcan and said that the pregnant woman that's missing got what she deserved. That's a quote. Courtney stated that it was Serena Roush that said something to Rusty Clark, Araya's father. She also added, quote, I guess it was an older guy that your sister left with. When I asked Kimberly if she knows where she is at, she answers the that the only older guy that Rebecca talks to is Stephen Billet and calls him a pervert. Park believes that Billet drives a black sedan, adding, quote, like Courtney said, Stephen Billet was contacted and did not appear to have contact with Rebecca Park. During the interview with Kimberly, she showed Detective Lieutenant Pisker a Blue View brand Model four cellular telephone which says, quote, rebecca Park's phone on the home screen. Kimberly reported that she has looked through the phone and observed that the last communications on the phone reporting a missed video call from a Gmail address on Friday, October 3rd at 8:43pm the last message was on Sunday and the last phone call was to Courtney Bartholomew on Sunday, November 2 at 21. Kimberly identified that Rebecca uses her phone regularly and daily. And because she did not see any communications on Monday, November 3, 2025, she suspects that records of phone activity on the 3rd have been deleted. Kimberly reported that Rebecca is known to regularly delete communication records from her cellular phone. Kimberly then played another voice message on her phone from Courtney Bartholomew, who can be heard explaining, okay, when Randy passed away, I was told that your sister had something to do with it that would give Randy's family a mer murder revenge thing because she was involved when it came to Randy. On the message, Courtney suggested, quote, so Stephen Billet is connected to Randy's family, so I would definitely be looking at them. When I asked Kimberly if she trusted Courtney, she responded, not really. I mean, you can't really make this stuff up. Don't forget Kimberly park was also arrested and hauled in and charged with obstruction of justice. So keep that in mind as you're hearing all this. I'm going to skip ahead a little bit here because there's some, like, not interesting stuff and I don't want to waste your time, but it says due to reported activity on Rebecca's social media platforms, Penn Register search warrants were obtained and served on her known social media accounts. However, no outgoing use was ever identified. On 11 15, 2025, Candace Freeman reported to Deputy Jacob Caponen that her sister Courtney Bartholomew had texted her on October 28 that she'd given birth to a son and was asking Candace for items for the baby. Through a series of text messages, Courtney said that she'd given birth at 28 weeks. The baby was in the NICU neonatal intensive care unit in Grand Rapids, and that she named the baby Ashton Lee Bartholomew. By the way, there's the answer to our 20 weeks. It's not 20, 28 weeks early. It's 28 weeks. She gave birth early at 28 weeks, not 28 weeks early. So there's the answer. Courtney told Candace, quote, he's supposed to come home this coming week. As long as he's doing good still, he, he will. On Monday, November 31, 2025 at 14:52, Candace asked Courtney if she was able to bring the baby home, and Courtney told her no, he did a backslide, but still hoping this week. End quote. On November 3, 2025 at 23:17, Courtney sent Candace a text that reads, my son passed away. On Tuesday, November 4th at 11:18, Candace asked if it was because he wasn't strong enough or if he'd gotten sick. Courtney answered, I don't know what happened. I just know he wasn't getting air, and added, all I know is I watched my child die right in front of me. Can I just break for a minute here and say if Courtney said the words, I just watched my child die right in front of me, maybe she's not lying because if she's guilty of killing Rebecca, then she indeed watched her child die right in front of her. That's just me jumping ahead to the ifs, but holy shit. Candace asked if she was there when it happened, and Courtney answered, yes, I was. All right, I'm going to skip ahead again because there's some junky stuff that's not, like, super interesting and get to the good stuff. On Tuesday, November 11, 2025, at 13:49, Detective Lieutenant Pescor conducted a Recorded interview with Courtney Bartholomew. Initially, some background on Courtney and her biological children raised by the park family is established. Courtney then reports how Rebecca and Richard Fowler, her fiance, were initially dating and they broke up a relationship between herself and Rich. Then commences, Courtney reports that she was planning to divorce Bradley. So again, let's just get this straight. Courtney's daughter Rebecca is dating Rich Fowler, her fiance, but they break up. So Courtney just jumps on in. She gets a little piece of that and she starts dating Richard Fowler and like, thinks she's gonna split up with her husband Bradley because of it. But then here's where it gets real dirty. Courtney then became pregnant and was unsure who the father might be. Bradley, her husband, or Richard, her daughter's fiance, who she's broken up with. I mean, God, you cannot write this stuff. Because of this, she stopped her divorce. Approximately two weeks before the court date was set for the divorce, Courtney reports that Rich showed up at her house with the intention of shooting Bradley Bartholomew. Can you believe this love triangle? Rich Fowler apparently is going to come and shoot Bradley, the husband because Courtney doesn't know who the baby daddy is. After Courtney rejected Rich, he resumed his relationship with Rebecca. Park went back to Courtney's daughter. Courtney also reported that Rich had returned to her residence and raped her forcefully, causing her to have a miscarriage of the baby she was carrying. I don't know if any of this shit is true, but if it is, it is like crazy ass drama that could be motive for murder and cutting a baby out of her daughter's womb to have for herself. I'm just saying it could be. If it's true. I don't know if she's just making it all up. This is what she's telling the police. A report of this incident was made with with the sheriff's office. However, Courtney said Rich was not charged. Well, wow. Okay, why? Why was he not charged with a forcible rape that made you lose your baby? Maybe because it's not true. Maybe just saying. Okay. Courtney identified that she was concerned for Rebecca and she was aware of how abusive and aggressive Richard Fowler could be and has encouraged Rebecca to leave Rich. Quote. When Detective Lieutenant Pisker asked about things leading up to the weekend, Courtney reported on Kimberly and Rebecca coming over on Saturday, November 1, 2025 to her residence on Half Road. Courtney told Detective Lieutenant Pisker about giving envelopes to Kimberly and Rebecca. These envelopes were later reported by both Kimberly and Rebecca to have been empty. Do you suppose these are supposed to be the envelopes with your inheritance in them that you're giving to your daughters long lost daughters. Courtney said that she was going to give Rebecca cash and didn't want Kimberly to feel left out, so she wanted Kimberly to set up an account so that she could put money in an account for her. Courtney then reports having forgotten to to give Rebecca some items for her baby while at the house. So she contacted Rebecca and then she brought the items to her at Richard Fowler's house Saturday night. Courtney then told the Detective Pisker and again it's D lt so I'm assuming it's Detective Lieutenant Pisker, but I really hope I'm not getting it wrong because it's going to be repeated over and over. So Courtney then told Detective Lieutenant Pisker that on Sunday, November 2, 2025, she was supposed to pick Rebecca up to have milkshakes at Dairy Queen and get Rebecca some laundry soap. These plans fell through when Rebecca went to Cadillac Munson Hospital as she thought she was in labor. Courtney reported that she and Bradley both visited Rebecca and Rich in the hospital that day. It is confirmed that Rebecca was not in labor, had only dilated to one, I'm assuming 1cm and she was released from the hospital. Bartholomew drove Rebecca and Rich home from the hospital. Courtney said that when they arrived at Fowler's he was throwing their bags and Rebecca had whispered to her that Rich had been quote, acting like a real big ass mom. Court she's calling her mom. They've only reconnected a few years ago as like biological mom and Courtney's saying that Rebecca's calling her mom. I don't know. I'm sus on that.

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Courtney offered to take her home with her, and Rebecca requested that they just meet for milkshakes tomorrow, Monday, November 3, 2025 and talk on Monday, November 3, 2025. Courtney said that she went to pick Rebecca up between 1830 and 1900. That's 6:30 and 7pm at Fowlers. Courtney reports that as they ride, Rebecca said that she was tired, which she confronted by telling her that she looked stressed. She claimed that Rebecca was upset with Rich, identifying that he had been hounding her to obtain money to fix his truck. Courtney talked about how she encouraged Rebecca to leave Rich, but said Rebecca was afraid to leave him. Courtney said that when they arrived at her house, she gave Rebecca an envelope with $2,000 cash in it, and they discussed Courtney throwing her a baby shower. She identified that Rebecca didn't want a baby shower because she was afraid that Children's Protective Services was going to take the baby. I wonder why that's new. Maybe it's. Courtney said that while they were talking, Rebecca was texting on her phone and mentioned the possibility that she had two phones. Courtney said she went into the house to get laundry soap and that when she came back out, she said, quote, I noticed that she deleted something but didn't know what it was or which phone it might have been on. Courtney said she told Rebecca that she would take her back home, but Rebecca told her to hold on. She had someone coming to get her. Courtney said she pulled out of her driveway and a car came up behind her. She identified that she didn't ask Rebecca who it was out of fear that she would push her away, but Rebecca had told her that she would be back. Courtney said the Car had dark tinted windows. There was no plate on the car, but she could tell that it was a Chevy. Like, I want to vomit knowing everything that Courtney has lied about later, right? I just want to vomit hearing all this garbage. When questioned that social media was reporting the car had taillights of an Impala, Courtney confirmed that she was the source of that information. Courtney talked about someone Rebecca knows who has a Chrysler 300 also having similar tail lights. Bartholomew didn't follow the car, as she again said that would upset Rebecca if she had. Courtney said that at about 2300, that's 11 o' clock at night. She reached out to Kimberly to get Rich's number at about 2330, that's 1130. She said she tried to call Rich, so she sent him a text that Rebecca had left with someone. Courtney confirmed that Rebecca was texting while they were together. Her next contact with Rich was Tuesday morning, and she reported telling him that she had given Rebecca $2,000. Courtney then said Kimberly sent her the GPS location to Rebecca's phone, which she said she put into her phone, and it took her right to the phone. When I asked who went and got the phone, Courtney then identified we who was identified as Bradley and herself. It is reported that Bradley found the phone and he then handed it to Courtney. Detective Lieutenant Pisker confronted Courtney an image she had sent to Rebecca of a check that was made out in her name for $18,000. She claimed that when her mother died, she was left money to do with what she pleased. Courtney confirmed that she sent an image of a check to Rebecca, but that she had not given the the check to her. Courtney denied that there was a similar check made out to Kimberly. Don't forget that the allegation here from the prosecutors is that Courtney makes out this picture of a check for $18,000 and lures Rebecca to her house, saying, look what I have for you. A check for 18,000. Because here we hear in the affidavit that Rebecca didn't get a check for $18,000. But there is that photo and there is this allegation that that's what Courtney used to lure her. Courtney denied that there was a similar check made out to Kimberly. A statement that Courtney had tried to have this meeting prior had fallen through because she didn't have things in place that she needed to. Courtney said it was simply getting kids together one at a time was what wasn't falling into place. When Detective Lieutenant Pisker confronts Courtney that the phone records for the phone that was found on the two track was not used to summon someone or pick her up. Courtney then identifies that there are possibly two other phones that she uses. Courtney brings up the names of other people she thinks may be involved based on rumors specifically that Mike Haynes and Ashley Crows were supposed to help Rebecca get away from Fowler. Let me skip ahead again a little bit. There's some jumbly stuff that's not important, but we pick up here. When Detective Lieutenant Pisker confronted Courtney with the accusations that she killed Rebecca park, she asked, quote, why the would I do that, saying that she would never hurt her daughter. During this interview, Courtney Bartholomew said she did not know what where Rebecca park was. When Courtney was asked if she had done anything to harm Rebecca park, she said again that she would not hurt her daughter. While discussing the pickup truck at her residence that was reported to never move but had been moved recently, Courtney reported it doesn't have seats in it, but said that it was moved recently to make room to access the porch. Remember that 2 of the seat covers were removed and burned from Courtney and Bradley's truck. Courtney said that Kimberly and Rebecca do not like Bradley Bartholomew, her husband. On Tuesday, November 11, 2025, at 15:40, Detective Lieutenant Pisker conducted a recorded interview with Bradley Bartholomew. He confirmed his cellular telephone number and when asked about Rebecca, Bradley reported that they don't get along. He explained that it's due to his criminal history. He described Rebecca and Courtney's relationship as rocky. Bradley said that he was not around on Monday when Rebecca was at the house. He identified that he was, quote, at my place and described living in the woods near Harrietta and the fish hatchery. As Detective Lieutenant Pisker was attempting to confirm his presence there, Bradley said he was alone and that his phone was with Courtney as her phone was about to be shut off. Wow, is that ever convenient. The truck at the house was discussed and identified as not having moved in years. Bradley said that he had been driving the truck up until October 21, 2025, when the license plate expired. When asked if the seats were out of the truck, Bradley confirmed that they had been. He explained a similar explanation that they are cleaning the truck up for Courtney's son Bentley to drive when he turns 16. When Bradley was asked when he found out that Rebecca park was missing, he identified that it was Monday night or Tuesday morning. He again denied being at the residence. Bradley told Detective Lieutenant Pisker that on Tuesday, November 4, 2025, Courtney Bartholomew, quote, was in town and that he was at the house with Bentley when Courtney texted him the location of where Rebecca's phone was. Bradley said he refused to go out there alone because quote, I'm not being accused of anything, end quote. Bradley said that when Courtney got home they went out together to look for the phone. Based on a ping that Kimberly park had sent to Courtney, Bradley confirmed that he was the person who found Rebecca park cellular device on the two track near a certain address and he picked it up and handed it to Courtney. Bradley said he didn't know how Rebecca's phone ended up on the trail, but suggested she had walked that trail in the past. On Monday, November 24, 2025, Courtney Bartholomew came to the Sheriff's Office and Detective Lieutenant Pisker began a recorded interview with her. There is a discussion about the tick tock live conversations and I asked Courtney about a cellular device that a bounty hunter dropped off at the Claire City Police Department. She identified this phone was provided by Kimberly. During the meeting I asked Courtney about Kimberly's personal property in her vehicle. She confirmed that she was in possession of items that belonged to Kimberly. However, she didn't want to leave the items with me to return to Kimberly. On Monday, November 24, 2025, Bradley Bartholomew was interviewed by Detective Lieutenant Tim Helen at the Michigan State Police Crime Laboratory in Grayling. During his interview, Braley reported that he is trying to protect Kimberly Park. He said that Kimberly took Rebecca down a two track behind the house and he stated, quote, I believe she's dead. Bradley Bartholomew said to Detective Tim Helen that he was present during a dinner with Courtney Bartholomew, Rebecca park and Kimberly park on Saturday, November 1st at their address. During this time, Bradley said that Kimberly had a private conversation with him asking about the two tracks behind the house and that Kimberly stated she needed to get Rebecca quote out of the picture. On Tuesday, November 25, 2025 at 2:16pm Wexford County Central Dispatch received a 911 call from a woman named Courtney Letterman and they say the telephone number stating that she had found a body covered with leaves that, quote, looks gutted. The location of the body was approximately two and a half miles in a straight line west of the Bartholomew's house in Antioch Township of Wexford county on forest service road 9784. Wexford County Deputy Jacob Kopponen responded to the area, observed the remains and reported the deceased female has a tattoo above the left eye. Koppanen reported that the abdomen area of the body appears to have been cut open. The tattoo located above the left eye is consistent with the the Michigan driver's license images of Rebecca K. Park, Michigan State Police Trooper Cody Campbell was inside the residence at the Bartholomew's home on Tuesday, November 25, securing the residence until the Michigan State Police Crime Laboratory personnel could search the home based on a search warrant that had been authorized on that date while in the presence of Courtney Bartholomew and Bradley Bartholomew. Courtney and Bradley were discussing amongst themselves loud enough for Trooper Campbell to hear. Courtney mentioned to Bradley that the seat cover from the Ford F150 in the driveway had recently been burned and disposed of due to something having been spilled on it. Slash them. A search warrant was served on T mobile for Bradley Bartholomew's known cellular telephone number. The records that were produced pursuant to the search warrant show Bradley Bartholomew's device active in the area of Ba Ba bomb the Bartholomew's home on November 3, 2025. That would be the date that he said he wasn't there. Well, his phone sure was, according to this. Further, these records show device movement and lingering. No, this is good. This is good. It's like they're lingering near the body. This is good. Further, these records show device movement and lingering in the areas consistent with where Bradley and Courtney reported recovering Rebecca Park's cellular device and where her body was discovered on Monday, November 3rd in the evening hours. Again, I'm going to skip ahead with some, like, hinky stuff with a lot of, like, you know, phone calls and times and stuff like that. That doesn't really help with the narrative, but here we go. An autopsy was conducted at Western Michigan University by Dr. Christine James and was attended by Deputy Alexis Howard. There were six sharp force wounds on Park's back. Two to the right upper arm, one to the left trapezius area, two to the neck, and at least two to the face. The face. Rebecca was stabbed twice in the face. That is personal. I've done these crimes before, and when you're shot or stabbed in the face, it is personal. The right side of the face also has a laceration and an irregular wound to the cheek of unknown etiology. The wounds to the neck are described as superficial and did not penetrate muscle or harm any vasculature. Most of the wounds to the torso are contained in soft tissue. One to the back enters the left pleural space but misses the lung. One on the right side of the back enters the right pleural space and does penetrate the right upper ling lobe. I think it meant lung lobe. And caused a large pneumothorax. All major vessels are intact. It kind of sounds like Rebecca was probably struggling and getting cut with the knife. But being stabbed as well, but. My God. Stabbed twice in the face with cuts as well. Unknown etiology. Rebecca Park's abdomen had incised wounds. The placenta was hanging from the open abdominal wound with attached umbilical cord, and the fetus was absent. The abdomen incision transcended the colon and the small bowel, meaning they cut so far into her. Dr. James reported that Rebecca Park's stomach contained copious amounts of blue green chalky residue. There was also a thin film of subdural blood over the left cerebral hemisphere with focal subdural on the right parietal area. However, there was no subscapular or subgalial hemorrhage. No skull fracture is noted. The OA joint had marked laxity, but a posterior neck dissection showed no soft tissue hemorrhage. For those of you who are watching right now, who have a lot of medical knowledge, that's going to mean a lot to you, but I was just kind of struck by how imprecise this C section was. If, as is alleged, this couple was researching how to do a C section, they didn't do it right. They basically butchered this girl. I think we already knew that, but to see it in writing is just so upsetting. Okay, I'm going to skip over again some technical stuff, license plate numbers and all the rest, and get to the meat of it. On Sunday, November 30, 2025 at 15:41, Detective Lieutenant Pesker and Detective Sergeant Hackman conducted a recorded interview with Bradley Bartholomew. Bradley was put on notice that Rebecca's death is a homicide and that this is a homicide investigation and that there can't be any more lies. Bradley was read his Miranda rights from a Wexford County Miranda warning card. He confirmed his understanding of the rights explained to him, and he agreed to speak with the detectives at the time. Oh, my God. Once again, I'm just going to say it. When you are told you have the right to remain silent, use it. This moron didn't. He thought he was smarter. He was given the right and he waived it. He just kept talking. Bradley reported his knowledge that Courtney went to get Rebecca. They came to the house to get Tide Pods, and they were supposed to go get ice cream. Bradley said that he was at the house with Bentley. He admitted that he lied during his first interview about being at the residence because of his sex offender registry status. Bradley is told that sex offender registry violations are small in comparison to a homicide. And he says that at the time, he didn't know that this was a homicide. He reported that Courtney had backed out of the driveway in the Ford Escape, and then she came back. He says at the time, he had no idea where Rebecca was. He said that he knew Courtney left with the white Ford and then came back. He reported that Courtney had told him that she and Rich Fowler were in the white Ford and that they had a disagreement. And there was blood on the dash. Courtney asked Bradley to clean it up, which he reported that he went out and wiped it down. He said that he didn't see any blood on the floor or the seats, just blood splattered on the dash. He described that later there was white paint on the seats, and Courtney asked him to remove the seat covers, which he confirmed he did. He said he was unsure what she did with them, if they were thrown in the burn barrel or in the trash, because I'm sure that white paint on the seat covers is just like, can't have that. Got to burn those. I don't know. There's blood spatter on the dash. I personally, I'm gonna go out on a limb here. I think there's blood on the seat covers, and they didn't like that. Next, he said Courtney was talking to him about how she and Rich did something horrible, but she wouldn't tell him. She. This guy. She claimed that once the story of Rebecca came out about her being missing, he began to put two and two together. Bradley recorded that Courtney threatened that if he said anything, she'd make his life hell. Bradley identified that Courtney has tried to stab him with scissors in the past and was charged with the assault, but the case was dismissed. Bradley clarified that Courtney had told him about something bad happening five to six days after Rebecca was missing, but he claimed he wasn't sure what bad thing that had been done was. You know, usually these affidavits aren't always, like, really smoothly written, but that's the way it's written. Kind of sounds weird. Quote. When asked about the story about the baby in the NICU at DeVos, Bradley identified that she was supposedly adopting a baby, but he didn't see how she could due to his status as a sex offender registered. Bradley said that Courtney was alone when she got into the white Ford and left north on the road where their house is, and that she returned approximately 15 minutes later. Sounds like he's making up all sorts of stuff here. He stated that he had sent a text to Courtney to see if she needed him to come outside for anything, and she responded in the affirmative. It was now that he said Courtney reported getting into a fight with Rich. Bradley said he never observed Rich on this date and that he did not observe any injury to Courtney. Returning to the something bad topic, Bradley was asked to continue that topic. He identified that Courtney is all over tick tock and that Kimberly was over to use the escape to deliver newspapers. He confirmed that Kimberly left personal items in the escape and identified that she did that all the time. When Detective Lieutenant Pisker asked about anything else that Bradley wanted known before drilling down, questions began. He said that Courtney was constantly talking to Rich. He agreed that she was also constantly talking to Kimberly. He reported that he can't hear the conversations as they are all taking place by text. He only knows it's them because he sees their names on her phone. Bradley is then confronted with records from carriers, specifically T Mobile and Verizon. He was asked about Courtney's phone that she had previously said was no longer going to have service. Bradley identified that she had service restored, but was unaware that she had conducted a factory reset on the phone. He was notified that factory reset does not prevent access to records that are maintained by the carrier. I'm going to skip ahead again because some of this stuff is a bit repetitive and this is a really long affidavit. Okay, so here we go. Bradley reported that Kimberly is jealous of Rebecca and that he is aware that Kimberly has had a relationship with Rich in the past. Again, this sounds once again like I'm going to start blaming Kimberly because Kimberly dated Rebecca's fiance. So there's got to be bad blood there, right? Bradley reported being upset when Kimberly was on the Internet, saying that he and Courtney were responsible, making a statement that he doesn't understand how anyone could do that to a pregnant woman. He answered that he believes Courtney and Rich would be capable of doing something such as this. Oh, my God. He's literally saying, yeah, my wife and her ex boyfriend, they. They definitely be capable of doing this to a pregnant woman. Wow. Keep it classy, fella. When asked for what purpose he gave different possibilities, Bradley agreed that he believes that Courtney is capable of slicing open her own flesh and blood and taking a baby out. Out. He agreed that Courtney is obsessed with wanting another baby in her care and custody. He also agreed that it was a good possibility she could attack Rebecca and cut a baby out of her. Detective Lieutenant Pisker asked if he remembered the Sunday that Rebecca was in the hospital. Courtney saying or texting, don't you dare have this baby in the hospital. And Bradley remembers somebody saying it, but not who was saying it. Bradley confirmed going to Fowler's house on Sunday to take the gifts to Rebecca that Courtney forgot to give her at the house earlier that day, while discussing being upset that Kimberly had accused him of being involved, Detective Lieutenant Pisker asked why he hadn't called him and Bradley said that Courtney had threatened him and that she didn't want him involved. His explanation was that she doesn't want to get incriminated or himself incriminated. Bradley began to say that he thinks Courtney has more to do with it than what she wants to claim. He said all the evidence is pointing to her. He said he suggests that he believes all the evidence would be in the white Ford. The blood he observed inside the truck is discussed and described. Bradley said that he removed the original seat covering about a week and a half after Rebecca went missing because it had got white paint on it. When asked what he thought happened, Bradley responded he thought Courtney was jealous of Rebecca. So now Kimberly's jealous of Rebecca and Courtney's jealous of Rebecca. He agrees that Courtney would like to have another child. He also thinks that Rich wants to get back into a relationship with Courtney. So now it's Kimberly and it's Courtney and it's Rich. Wow. Bradley sure is pointing a lot of fingers. Bradley agrees that he thinks Courtney could point the finger at him as being responsible when we interview him. When Bradley is confronted with courtly being in possession of the cellular device with the particular phone number when she went to pick up Rebecca, he claims he can't say she possessed it, but it was there at the house and he had it to call her. He then confirms that Courtney did not have that phone when she went to Fowler's to pick up Rebecca. He reported she got that phone when she came back from getting the white Ford. Detective Lieutenant Pisker asked Bradley what else he wanted us to know about and he told us that Courtney has scalpels in her bedside stand, describing them as disposable scalpels for lancing cell. Bradley doesn't remember going anywhere on the morning of Tuesday, November 4, other than to Fowler's to give him Rebecca's phone. Bradley confirmed that he had come to the hospital on Sunday, November 2, to bring Courtney her wheelchair and that he was driving the white Ford pickup truck while Courtney was there with the Ford escape. I'm going to skip ahead a little bit here. They say that detectives then conducted a recorded interview with Courtney Bartholomew. Courtney was reader Miranda rights from a Wexford County Miranda warning card and she confirmed her understanding of the rights explained to her and she agreed to speak with detectives at the time Hallelujah. These two idiots. Geez. You have the right to remain silent. Again. Use it. But she didn't. Courtney identified that at the dinner at her house on Saturday, November 1, it was herself, Rebecca Kimberly Bentley, and that Brad was hiding in the truck. Detective Lieutenant Pisker notified Courtney that this is a homicide investigation and that the lies must stop. And if she lies, more charges can be brought. Courtney reported that Bradley is hiding in the truck because the girls won't come in if he's around because they don't like him. She reported that the dinner ended around 7 7:30pm the next thing that happened was she called Rebecca about the items she forgot to get her and that she and Bradley went to Fowler's to drop the items off at the time they were in the Ford escape on Sunday, November 2, she was supposed to pick Rebecca up and waited around until about 6:30 and Rebecca called to say she was on her way to the hospital. She described the events at the hospital as she had previously. Bradley brought Courtney her wheelchair to the hospital. Bradley was driving through the white F150 and she explained how he stopped at the Mayor gas station to get gas for the truck while she drove Rebecca and Rich home. Courtney wanted to know if Bradley could hear her and she was told he could not. She reported talking to Rebecca Sunday night about getting shakes on Monday and said that Rebecca asked her about the $2,000 and said that Rich was upset about something. Courtney confirmed the trip to Fowler's house on Saturday after the dinner to drop the items off for Rebecca. When Detective Lieutenant Pisker asked Courtney why she wanted to know if Bradley could hear her, she she suggested the need to back up, saying she thinks she needs immunity. Yeah, you do. You're not going to get it. Detective Lieutenant Pisker notified Courtney that the prosecutor is the person who can give immunity. Courtney suggests we get the prosecutor here and Detective Lieutenant Pisker says she will want to know what she has. Courtney said she will give us where the knife is and where the baby is, that she will give it all to us. When Detective Lieutenant Pisker confronts Courtney that she has guilty knowledge, she responded that she has been threatened, her child has been threatened, her home has been threatened and she is done. Courtney renews her request for immunity and then asked for witness protection. Detective Sergeant Voss explains he can't offer her immunity. My God, this is just righteous. When Detective Lieutenant Pisker asks Courtney if the baby is alive, she shakes her head in the negative. Detective Sergeant Voss asked Courtney about her prior statement that Bradley hides in the truck. He asked her where he hides and she identified in the cab. She describes it as a single cab truck and he lays on the seat. Courtney reported that Bradley had put $15 worth of gas in the truck when he was at the mayor on Sunday night. Courtney asked if Bradley confessed, and Detective Sergeant Voss repeated, he's told us a lot of stuff. I'm going to jump ahead a little bit again here because there's some bleh. But I'm going to get to the good stuff here. She renewed her request to contact the prosecutor. Detective Sergeant Voss again told her, we need to know what she knows to take it to the prosecutor. When he suggests an example that she will even tell us where the baby is, she interrupts and says, in the garbage in a blue cooler. When asked where she reported in the gfl, Courtney says he said he put him in a black bag. The cooler's gone. The cooler is Brad's work cooler, adding, he put him inside the cooler and drove him up and down the road looking for a GFL that wasn't mine, by the way. A GFL is like a waste management company. So she's talking about a specific kind of dumpster. When Detective Sergeant Voss asked why Courtney reported that it was related to Bradley going to jail last year when Fowler turned him in, she explained that is all retaliation. She identified the night when they went home after their last interviews. She confronted him about his examination and his failure. And Detective Sergeant Voss asked Courtney which vehicle he used to get rid of the body, and she identified her white truck. She is then asked how he got her in a position to kill her. She explained how she pulled into her driveway. She had notified him she was on their road. She explained that she got to the house and talked to Rebecca for a few minutes, and Bradley walked up and pulled out and said, I want to talk to you. Courtney described the white truck was sitting out by the road and explained that she didn't think anything of it. You know, Brad was supposed to be her stepdad. Courtney wanted to know where they were going and that Brad told her to take her ass in the house and don't worry about it. She said she went into the house because she didn't think he would hurt her. Bradley is reported to have returned to the house at about 22:30 and told her that he had taken Rebecca home. 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Courtney asked him for her phone, which she reported he told her was out in the shed and he went out to get it. She said when he came back in the house, he said, quote yeah, she didn't go home. Instead telling Courtney that he took her to a house. But when she asked him to take her there. He just told her that Rebecca said to him that she didn't want anything to do with her, meaning Courtney. Courtney reported calling Rich to tell him to call her back asap, and that while Brad was watching her, she told Rich that, quote, dude, your old lady left with some guy, or Bradley would backhand her. Courtney confirmed for Detective Lieutenant Pisker that the story about the black car was made up. It never happened, really. What a shock. Asking her to continue, she reported Kimberly sending her coordinates to Rebecca's phone and asking Bradley why her daughter's phone would be across the road. And his response was, I don't fucking know. She asked Bradley to take her to the phone and said he took her right to it. She said that phone was, quote, exactly where the coordinates is, end quote. She said it was out in the open and it appeared that someone had just set it down. They took the phone directly to Riches, but before their arrival, she said that Bradley told her, quote, I'm telling you right now, do not say a word, end quote. Kimberly got the phone from Rich, and Courtney reported that Kimberly had called her and said she was taking the phone to the cops. She said Kimberly called her at 2100 on Tuesday night to tell her this, quote, when asked to continue, Courtney identified that in her second to last drawer in her bed stand, she has razor knives that she uses to nick open her cellulite so they will drain. She reported that one was gone, which she said she knew because she counted them due to a teenage boy living in her house. Wow, what a great parent. She keeps track of her celluloid slashing knives. Courtney agreed the knives are like scalpels. When she confronted Bradley about the missing knife, she answered, he didn't say anything. Then Detective Lieutenant Pisker confronted her that her use of the word them means he must have said something later, and she reported it was after her body was found. Courtney said she kept asking Bradley where her daughter was, saying he answered, you'll find out soon enough. She goes on in the report that after returning from his last interview, he told her about, quote, kimmy was asking about the woods behind the house to go trail riding. Courtney said that Kimberly will not talk to Bradley ever alone. I'm going to skip ahead again here a little bit. There's a bunch of back and forth about a wallet and a bag and all the rest. But it says here, she said when Bradley came back, she asked him if he had hurt her daughter, and he told her, quote, no, I didn't hurt her. Courtney said that was the same day Rebecca's body was found, Courtney said that on Wednesday, November 26, in the morning, she confronted Bradley and asked him what he did. She reported he told her, quote, I'm going to tell you once and I'm going to tell you, and you're going to fucking drop it and you're gonna shut the up. He's like, I'm the reason your daughter's not here, that your life is upside down right now, end quote. When she asked him why, she said Bradley said, quote, rich with the wrong end quote. She agrees this is all a revenge plot. Courtney said that when she asked him what he did to her daughter, Bradley said, quote, I slit her throat. Bitch deserved it, end quote. She goes on to say that he said Rich deserved it, too, and it just happened to be your daughter that's going to pay for it. Again, this is the whole lie. It's a revenge plot, right? I'm mad at Rich, so I'm going to kill Rich's fiance. Courtney said when she asked about her grandson, she said Bradley said, quote, oh, I stuck him in a cooler, stuck him in a trash bag, threw him in the trash. End quote. Detective Lieutenant Pisker asked Courtney that if Bradley is paying Rich back, why cut the baby out? And she said, and this is where I'm going to tell you this makes no sense. It's either really badly written or Courtney is so unbelievably stupid, she can't even link sentences. But I'm going to read directly from the affidavit. So again, if Bradley's paying Rich back, why cut the baby out? And she said, quote, because if he would have left the baby in there and had somebody found her before, he would have survived. He would have thought, end quote. Again, I. She can't even link sentences. Courtney was asked, why not just cut the baby out and kill it? Why take it? And she said that he told her the baby wasn't breathing when he pulled him out. Again, she was asked, why take it? Now she answers, it was because he didn't want Rich to see they were together. She admitted she didn't know what that meant. Well, I'm with you. I don't know what you mean. Either it's either really bad police language or an incredibly stupid Courtney, or I'm guessing a big combination of both because this is just gibberish. When asked about where the baby is now, Courtney said that he put him in the blue cooler, in a trash bag, and into a GFL container. She confirmed that she's talking about A residential GFL trash receptacle. Courtney said she was never at the location where the body was found because he wouldn't let her. She doesn't know how many times he went to the location. When asked if she was killed at the location she was found or at the end of her driveway, she answers she doesn't know, but said it wasn't in her driveway because he pulled away quickly with her. Courtney said that he walked out of his truck and not the house to get her out of the truck, confirming that it was from the escape and into the Ford F150. When Detective Lieutenant Pisker reminded Courtney that she knew where the knife was at, she said he threw it in a dumpster at Cadillac Shores. When asked when he had done that, she first announced that it was her hunting knife. She said it was probably like a week after that knife was put in the dumpster. She did not know what happened to the disposable scalpel, adding she had no clue and wished she knew. Detective Sergeant Voss asked Courtney what she was looking for in an immunity agreement, what she was afraid of, and then confronted her that she had provided a lot of information to the police. She reassured us that she would cooperate, quote, the whole way, quote. Detective Lieutenant Pisker pointed out her obstruction of the investigation, and she agrees. When asked about the seat covers, Courtney said Bradley burned them. She also said that Bradley went out and cleaned the truck, specifically mentioning the dash. She described that the cloth was burned, that the bucket was taken back into the house. Courtney didn't think the floor in the truck was cleaned. Courtney was asked about the Kimmy stuff, and she suggested that Kimberly doesn't know anything. She was just trying to feel important. Detective Sergeant Voss confronted Courtney that she was the person who told us recently that Kimberly was in the black car. She reported that Bradley came up with the story about Kimberly. Courtney said that she knew. Kimberly told us that she Courtney hit her and hit her body. When asked how she knows that Kimberly told us this, Courtney said that she told, quote, Ashley and reported Ashley is Rich's baby mama. Let's be clear. It's not this Ashley. It's Ashley Crozy. Ashley Crozy has a child with Rich Fowler. Courtney said that all that Kimberly did was lie to the police and has no involvement. She also said that Rich Fowler was not involved, but did say she didn't know if he deleted anything from Rebecca's phone or not. Detective Lieutenant Pisker asked about a text message about not allowing anyone from the State of Michigan on her Property and Rebecca saying that they should talk about that so she's clear on what that means. Courtney denied sending such a message. Detective Sergeant Voss asked when she first learned what actually happened and she said it was after her body was found. Detective Lieutenant Pisker then pointed out she could have covered herself had she cooperated. On Monday at Mount Pleasant, Voss asked how Bradley told her how he killed Rebecca and she said, quote, he told me that he slit her throat, quote. When he asked how she told him that he cut the baby out, she said, quote, he had one of my scalpels. She denied that he said how he did that, then said, quote, he just said that I cut him out. That was it. That was all he said. End quote. Voss asked about the baby getting cut out, being put in the garbage bag and being put in a blue cooler and what he said about that. She said that he just said he took them, put him in a garbage bag, stuffed him in a cooler and threw him in a trash dumpster. She knows that it was that specific cooler because his work cooler's gone. She shows the size as a lunchbox size cooler and described it as a soft sided cooler with a hard plastic inside to keep the side supported and it has a black strap. Courtney reported the garbage bags came from her house and she knows this because she counts her garbage bags and she noticed that two of her garbage bags are gone. I'm just staring at this like I'm just. Do you catch your garbage bags? Really? You know that two of them are gone? She's so full of. It's unbelievable. The hunting knife is described by Courtney as being green, having a serrated blade on one side and a flat blade on the other side and is a fixed blade, not a folding knife. She is sure that Bradley used that knife. The knife was purchased at Walmart within the last year and she provided a description of it. When asked if she noticed any items missing out of Kimberly's purse, she didn't report any. Courtney denied that Bentley knows anything. We took a break and moved Courtney to another room. On Sunday, November 30, Voss and I began a second recorded interview with Bradley. But Bartholomew we reminded Bradley that the rights we discussed earlier are still applied and he agreed he was still good with it. Lieutenant Pisker notified Bradley that Courtney was putting it all on him. He broke down details that Courtney had provided. Pisker explains how the investigation has come down to to involving himself and Courtney. Voss explains how we believe it went down and how evidence will support the investigation. An appeal to Bradley was Made that he needed to tell the truth. Bradley is confronted with how much gas he put in the truck when he was at the Meyer on Sunday after leaving the hospital and he reported five bucks when asked about information he feels we should know that we haven't already discussed. Bradley reports that he knows his lunch cooler is missing and describes it as being blue and thinks it's an Oregon Trail brand. He said it's big enough to hold an eight pack of pop bottles. His description of the cooler is basically the same as Courtney's. He estimates the cooler has been missing for about two weeks. Bradley is not aware of Courtney's counting their garbage bags because of Bentley's use of them. We confront Bradley that she is blaming him for dumping the body and putting the fetus in his lunchbox. It is explained that she is attempting to place the blame on him. Bradley is confronted with a statement he made in his first interview that Rebecca was stabbed. Sergeant Voss asks him about that statement again and how he knows she was stabbed. Lt. Pisker pointed out that both he and Courtney have reported on the scalpel and that you don't need to make a stabbing motion with a scalpel to slice someone open. It is pointed out that Courtney said he is threatening her, including in the parking lot prior to them leaving for their interviews on Monday. It is also shared with him that she identified that it was revenge for Fowler turning him in last year on his sex offender registration violation, to which he responded, that's bullshit. It is explained that what Courtney had said about why the baby was cut out of Rebecca during a revenge murder doesn't make sense. We remind him of the NICU story and her attempts to get custody of Kimberly and Rebecca's children. Bradley begins to tell us, quote, I'm sure Courtney stabbed her because she did have a hunting knife. He reported the case for the knife went into the trash bin and thinks it might still be in the bin. He identified that the knife went into the trash at Cadillac Shores. He reported that Courtney is the one who cut the baby out of Rebecca. He confirms that he witnessed this as it had taken place right where she is laying out on the trails behind the house. He confirms that is the reason he had told an officer to check the trails behind the house. He reported that he knew Rebecca had a bunch of leaves on her because Courtney buried her in leaves where she was found. Bradley confirmed that a scalpel from the bedroom was used. When he was asked if the baby was alive when he was cut out, he responded no. He confirmed that it was just the two of them that were present. When Sergeant Voss asked when she stabbed her, where did she stab her? And Bradley said in the truck. When asked what location on Rebecca's body had Courtney stabbed her, he responded he didn't know. As he jumped out of the truck. Bradley reported that Rebecca had gotten into the white truck voluntarily. He confirms that the plan to get the Tide Pods was legitimate and he was unaware that the plan was to stab her. Bradley denied that there was a plan of this. While in the pickup, Bradley said he was driving, Courtney was in the passenger seat and Rebecca was in the middle. He claimed not to know what Courtney had told Rebecca to get her into the truck. Initially, Brad was in the house with Bentley and he said he went outside to get away from everything so he didn't have to worry about Rebecca coming in. He denied getting a phone call from Courtney that they were in the driveway when he got outside. Courtney and Rebecca were in the escape and Courtenay and had said she blew out a tire on the escape so they got in the truck. From here they get on the trail to the woods because the truck doesn't have a valid plate. Bradley said that Courtney was mad because Rebecca was always bad mouthing her and wouldn't give her a chance to be a mom. Bradley confirmed that Courtney wanted the baby for herself despite Courtney wanting the baby. Bradley said it was unrealistic to expect that Courtney would be allowed to adopt the baby. Bradley described that the actual stabbing began when Courtney just grabbed the knife and started stabbing at her. The knife had been down on Courtney's right. He said she stabbed her in the chest as far as he knew, but said he jumped out of the truck when Courtney started swinging. So he wasn't sure. Bradley knew they were on the trails and said he could take officers to the scene. Sergeant Voss asked at what point did they realize that Rebecca is dead and he identified that it was after Courtney cut the baby out of her. He said that Courtney tried CPR on the baby. Bradley said that Rebecca was not in the truck when Courtney cut the baby out of her. He said that Courtney tricked her to get out of the truck and made her start walking after she'd already been stabbed. Rebecca walked behind the truck but is unable to run due to her pregnancy. When Detective Voss. When Sergeant Voss asked why what Courtney did to kill Rebecca, he explained that Courtney had Rebecca lay down as she was still alive and she cut the baby out of her. Bradley said he was beside the trail telling Courtney that she doesn't need to do that. That's not right. Come on. You're just standing there pious as hell. Don't do that. It's not right. I'm just standing beside it all happening. They do not have the bag or the cooler that the baby is eventually put in at this time. Now the baby is cut out. Bradley said they just left Rebecca there. He identified that he couldn't tell if she was dead or not. Courtney decided that they should head to the house and Courtney is holding the baby on her lap as Bradley drives. Bradley said the baby never took a breath and he never heard the baby cry. Took about 5 minutes to get back to the house. Bradley stated that Courtney took the baby into the house and into her bedroom where she's trying to perform CPR on the baby, which is on a towel on the bed. He also said he tried to perform CPR on the baby by doing chest compression and breathing into his mouth. He said this went on for about 15 minutes. After they arrived home, Bradley reported Courtney went into the kitchen, got a garbage bag and placed the baby in a garbage bag and went outside with the baby. He identified that the cooler was in the bed of the white truck and he saw the baby go into the cooler. He explained that the baby went into the cooler because the cooler can be zipped up and it had the baby in it and dispose of the cooler and not be seen again. It's not written very well, but I think you're getting the idea. Bradley said that the same night he is with Courtney who is now driving the truck and they went and disposed of the knife first and they put the baby in a GFL tote at a house north of their residence where there had been some logging done recently. Bradley denied burning the seat covers from the truck and said Courtney burned them. He did say he cleaned inside the truck using a gray bucket and some bleach and water. He denied cleaning the floor and believes there will be blood on the floor of the truck. Bradley denied placing the phone on the two track, but again he said he found the phone on the two track. He did agree that he had the phone on his person. On Monday, November 3rd, Detective Voss confronts Bradley that if Courtney told him to do this, we want him to tell us now. He denies that he stabbed Rebecca. When Lt. Pisker asked Bradley about the card found with Rebecca, he said that he didn't know anything about it and couldn't recall what it was, but knew it was on social media. He did not see a card when he left the area. He also did not see another weapon or tools when he was at the scene or anything else. Bradley doesn't know if anyone else has been to the scene where Rebecca's body was since she was killed, and he denied that he has been back to the scene. When Bradley was asked about Rebecca not having shoes on, he appeared surprised by that. Bradley gives a description of where Rebecca's body was in relation to the trail and where things occurred. He denied that Courtney asked him to position the truck so the lights would assist. He said the lights shining around the side of the front of the truck was enough illumination for Courtney to cut the baby out. When he left, the body was still on the same hill. Courtney covered Rebecca with leaves, but denied branches were placed on her. At the time, the baby was on a towel next to Courtney. Questioning the presence of a towel, Bradley is asked if he thinks Courtney planned this and he said, I have a feeling she did, but never told him of a plan. Bradley did not see Courtney place a towel or the hunting knife in the truck. Using a Wexford county map, Bradley showed the route of the travel he took and approximately where they were. He agreed he could take officers out and show them where things had taken place. On Monday, November 3rd, quote, while discussing if there was blood on any of the clothing he or Courtney had been wearing that night, he identified that when they got home, Courtney changed into a nightgown. Previously, he had said they had gone out and disposed of the baby and the knife that night. Now, when asking about this, Bradley said the baby stayed in the cooler that night on the back porch. He now reported it was Wednesday, November 5, when the items were placed in the dumpsters. Specifically because Thursday is garbage day. Good memory. He said that it was Courtney who placed the cooler with the baby in it in the garbage tote. They were in the escape when they discarded the knife and the baby. Bradley said one of the things that he believes Courtney said after she couldn't revive the baby was the bitch killed my baby. Can you believe this? As if to suggest Rebecca, while being murdered, is responsible for killing the baby, not the people who literally cut the baby out of the womb. According to cops, Bradley reported that he watched Courtney as the knife was placed in the glove box at the Ford Escape, and he believes that there will likely be blood located in the glove box. On Sunday, November 30th, Sergeant Voss and I began a second recorded interview with Courtney Bartholomew. As she enters the interview room, Courtney reports she's ready to go home when it is pointed out that she is saying it's all Bradley. When asked what she thinks, Bradley has been saying. She reported that he's probably saying it's both of them. And we confirm her statement and say we know they are both present. Courtney denies that she wanted the baby for herself. She admitted that Bradley brought the baby to the house and told her that the baby was not breathing. Courtney said she told him to call 91 1. Sure you did. But Bradley said they weren't doing that. She denied getting involved and said it was because she has Bentley and can't put herself in a position like that. Courtney reported that the day the drones were flying around, the baby was in the metal shed out in the back. Courtney said she knew that Bradley was going to try to pin this on her because. Because he had told her, quote, I'll take you down with me. Courtney told us that Bentley can prove that she was home. On the third, Courtney is confronted with her explanation that Rebecca willingly got into the truck with Bradley to go for a ride, that he then murdered her and cut the fetus out. When confronted with cellular telephone data and location data records, Courtney announces that Bradley had taken her phone so that she couldn't call the police. That's very convenient, isn't it? Courtney is confronted with her version of the events being difficult to believe. Boy, I'll say. Eventually, Courtney said she is going to tell us what happened. Hallelujah. She's going to be honest. Do you buy it? Do you think she's going to be honest? Let's keep reading. Quote, brad took her. He brought the baby back. I tried. I didn't. I couldn't. I tried. I tried to save my grandson and began to cry. Sergeant Voss asked how Bradley, quote, unquote, took Rebecca. Courtney said he pulled her out of the car and she got into the truck. Courtney admits that she told Rebecca she was going to come with her. She places herself in the truck on the passenger side. Rebecca is in the middle, and Bradley's driving. Bradley has the knife, according to her, from the house they drove to, where Bradley ended up stabbing Rebecca. She claimed not to know Rebecca was going to die that night. Courtney places Bradley across South 21st and a half road from their house. As she is arriving with Rebecca, Courtney admits she knows something is going to go down because Bradley is on foot across the road waiting for them to arrive. She reported that Bradley approached the vehicle by just walking up on her side, grabbed Rebecca by the arm and got her out of the escape. And she willingly gets into the pickup to go for a ride after he told Rebecca, your mom is going with us. Yeah, that sounds plausible, right? I'm going to grab you by the arm, rip you out of a car, and then you're going to willingly get into the next truck because your mom is going with you. From the house, they drive to where Rebecca gets stabbed. Courtney said that Bradley told Rebecca to get out of the truck while Courtney stayed inside. Rebecca is taken to the rear of the truck where Bradley stabbed her. At first, she said she assumed he stabbed Rebecca because he came back with the knife all bloody. When Sergeant Voss asked Courtney at what point did she cut the baby out of Rebecca, she answers, I didn't. He did, and he handed him to me. Courtney also said the baby wasn't breathing and she didn't hear him cry. Courtney claimed to have never gotten out of the truck because she didn't have her crutches or her wheelchair. She again claimed that this was a revenge plot because she had a sexual relationship with Rich Fowler that would be Rebecca's fiance. And because Rich got Bradley put in jail, she claimed that Bradley wanted to hurt Rich. Quote. When confronted with the report that she stabbed Rebecca 1 while driving down the road, Courtney denied it. When asked how all the blood got all over the truck, she answered that it was from the knife, then suggested that Rebecca got back in the truck. Boy, does this story change a lot when she's confronted with the actual forensic information. Eventually, Courtney admitted that she cut the baby out of Rebecca ah, in an attempt to save him so that she could take him the baby to Rich. When she cut the baby out, Courtney said that Rebecca was still conscious and Bradley was holding the knife to her throat. She told Rebecca to lay back. Quote, your baby is gonna die, end quote. Courtney denied that Rebecca had been stabbed while in the truck. Revisiting the driveway, Sergeant Voss asked if Bradley held the knife to her throat to get her into the truck, and Courtney nodded her head in the affirmative. While in the truck, Bradley put the knife down by his left side. During the ride, Sergeant Voss asked what is said to Rebecca and Courtney said she told her everything is going to be okay. Courtney said she promised that Bradley wasn't going to hurt her. When they get to the area where this happens, Bradley pulled Rebecca out of the truck and he spun her around and stabbed her in the back four or five times. Bradley brings Rebecca to her side of the truck and is sitting next to the door, and Bradley ordered Rebecca to lay back. Courtney said she told Rebecca that if she doesn't lay back, her baby is going to die. Courtney looked in the truck and saw the scalpel, so she hurried up and did it, but her grandson wasn't breathing. Courtney said she started her incision along her belly, and Bradley told her to cut downward. It would be easier. Courtney reported that Rebecca is still talking at this time, telling her to hurry up and asking if he's out. Can you believe this? Yeah, I'm actually performing a C section on this live woman, and she's saying, you know, hurry up and is it out yet? Unbelievable. She said she told Rebecca he was about out and that Rebecca told her to save him when she got the baby out. Courtney said she had dental floss from the dash and she put it in her pocket because she knew she would have to tie off the umbilical cord. So, again, Courtney just has dental floss handy for this. This wasn't planned in advance that you're going to need to tie off the umbilical cord with the dental floss. Just. Just happened to have it. She reported tying off the umbilical cord the best that she could once the baby was out. She said that Bradley slit Rebecca's throat with the knife. Next, she said that Bradley used a cord from the snow plow on the truck to hook her body to the truck. And he pulled Rebecca down the bank maybe 20ft, pulling her back and off the road. She said he then covered her with leaves. Courtney said the towel was in the truck already. That's convenient, isn't it? Especially if you're not planning all this. But she didn't know how the scalpel got into the truck. I mean, Courtney talked about how she would have come to the sheriff's office if she'd been able to give the baby to Rich to report what happened. Discussing this, she claims that since this happened, she hasn't been able to get away from Bradley. When reminded that on Monday she was in Mount Pleasant and he was in Grayling, she could have said something then. Oops, I guess you forgot about that, did you, Courtney? Courtney confirmed that after she was stabbed, Rebecca never got back in the truck. She was asked how the blood got into the truck, and Courtney reported that it was from the umbilical cord making blood fly all over. Courtney said she never stabbed Rebecca. She was only responsible for trying to save her grandson. When asked if she thought she should have tried to save her daughter, Courtney said she couldn't. When asked how many times she talked to Bradley on the ride to her house from Riches, she reported it was only once she identified she had the phone, certain phone, and that the call they had lasted about 10 minutes. When Lt. Pisker confronted Courtney with the two incisions she admitted to having made to remove the baby. He asked her if she thinks Rebecca would have survived those wounds. She said, no, probably not. Courtney admitted that about one to two months prior to this having happened, Bradley researched the procedure for getting a baby out. Courtney said that Bradley put the items in the dumpster, but she was present in the Ford escape for both. Courtney is asked, whose idea is it to leave items at the crime scene? And she said it was Brad's. She then identified the items were Kimberly's debit card and a razor knife. Courtney reported these items were placed after Kimberly was went on social media saying that Courtney and Bradley were responsible for the purpose of framing Kimberly. So here's Courtney willing to frame her daughter for the murder of her other daughter that she admits to performing a live C section on. When pressed on the debit card, Courtney said it belonged to James Mercer, not Kimberly, and that the card came from Kimberly's backpack. She said he used one of the plastic bags from her backpack to keep from getting his fingerprints on it. These items were suspected to have been placed by Bradley the day before Rebecca's body was recovered. She said he left with the escape that day for about 20 minutes. Lt. Pisker asked Courtney to provide some information that isn't already known that can verify her statements. And she reported Brad said it was his in reference to Rebecca's baby. Okay, so now we have Courtney's husband impregnating her daughter and saying that the baby is his. Now, when it is questioned, if they don't like each other, Courtney said, yes, they do. So it's not convenient anymore to have Rebecca hating Brad, especially if it's Brad's baby there. Huh? Revisiting the conversation she had with Bradley a month prior about C sections, she reported that he looked it up on his phone. When asked why they were having that discussion, Courtney answered, because that's what he said was going to happen. She said he told her he was going to cut the baby out of Rebecca right in front of Rich. Courtney said she brushed it off. When Lieutenant Pisker commented on Courtney's story about having delivered a premature baby that was down in the nicu, she denied it and suggested it was a friend's baby that she was thinking about giving up. As she's been confronted with the obviousness that there was a plan for this to happen. Courtney said that Bradley had told her to pull straight in, but that she didn't. She turned the corner in her driveway instead, questioning why he told her to pull in straight Courtney reveals that Bradley had told her if he was going to do anything, it would be right there. When he does grab Rebecca, Courtney tries to get him to stop. But she said that he had a knife to Rebecca's throat and he ordered everyone to get in the white truck. While in the truck, Rebecca slid over to Courtney asking what was going on. And she said she reassured her that Bradley just wanted to talk. Courtney described that Rebecca was calm after just having a knife held to her throat to get in the truck. And that, my friend, is where the arrest warrant affidavit ends. The signatures are underneath there. I know. I feel kind of like it was so confusing, it was badly written. But I'm going to be honest with you, pretty much every arrest warrant that I ever read or warrant or anything that's written by police is usually written pretty badly. I feel bad for the prosecutors. They're gonna have to sort through a lot of this, make sense of a lot of it. But I can tell you one thing. None of this bodes well for Courtney Bartholomew. None of this bodes well for Bradley Bartholomew. The two of them together. And I'm going to go out on a limb here. Big prediction. They are going down for premeditated first degree murder, right? And every other ugly charge that they ascribe to this crime. The torture of carving into a live pregnant woman to get her baby out, stabbing her repeatedly, terrorizing her, stabbing her in a truck, stabbing her outside, performing this kind of a sickening C section outside while she's alive. All of this is so egregious that in any kind of sentencing, all that shit's coming in as aggravators. And aggravators basically say you're never, ever, ever, ever, as Taylor Swift would say, getting out of prison. Never. My prediction is these two are both going to get toe tag parole. Neither one of them is told the truth from the get go. And when confronted with very uncomfortable and inconvenient truths, they change their stories, but continually lie again. And then that lie is confronted with forensics and they lie again. So neither one of them is going to be treated well by the system. They're going to be treated, in my estimation, as co conspirators in this first degree murder and this torture of Rebecca Park. But that's where we leave this episode. If you stayed till the end, my God, do I love you. You are amazing. But you are also the kind of super curious type that is the ultimate true crime fan. Because people like us, we want every detail. We want the nitty gritty we want to know exactly what they said and when and when they changed it. And friends, you got it. You got it all right here. But I promise you I'm going to continue to follow this story and there's going to be more than just this. Mark my word. Maybe they'll sign a deal with prosecutors because they got them dead to rights, right? 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