How Uncle Si’s Son Finds PTSD Peace & Healing

Summary

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Duck Call Room Podcast

Episode: "How Uncle Si’s Son Finds PTSD Peace & Healing"

Air Date: December 4, 2025
Hosts: Si Robertson, Justin Martin
Special Guests: Scott Robertson, Marsha Robertson, and Family

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Overview

This episode blends classic Duck Commander humor and storytelling with deep, heartfelt discussions on PTSD, healing through animals, the power of community, and faith. With a focus on Uncle Si’s son’s journey from military service and PTSD to finding peace through working with horses, the crew explores serious topics—bonding, trauma recovery, and the difference one person can make—while never straying too far from their trademark zaniness and warmth.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Lighthearted Duck Commander Banter (01:05–13:00)

• Missing Martin: The crew jokes about Justin Martin’s absence at the start, teases over football, and tells classic Duck Commander tales, including Si’s airport “hash yeast” incident:

  “They said something about hash yeast dealer. I said, what is hash yeast anyway? Is that some kind of meatball and spaghetti deal, yo?” – Si Robertson (05:20)

• Sweet Tea Debate: Extended argument about sweet vs. unsweet tea, Si’s dental problems (“I just had them all pulled…77 years’ll do to your teeth.” – Si, 08:53), and tea horror stories in New York ($50/gallon!).

• Lighthearted jokes: From hot yoga to overlong stays in the hot tub to poker night tales, the usual Duck Call Room camaraderie is on full display.

2. Uplifting Story: Morgan and the $3.8 Million Miracle (15:06–19:10)

• Helping Hand: The crew updates listeners on Morgan, a mom fighting for her daughter's life and raising funds for a terminal disease, highlighting generosity and community.
  • “She went to work... and I don't blame her. That’s what happens when you fool with a mom and her cubs!” – Si Robertson (16:47)
  • Through small donations, the children’s treatment goal was reached, showing the power of collective action.
  • “People always said, ‘Can one person make a difference?’ You bet your bippy!” – Si Robertson (18:33)
• Faith and Service: The crew reflects on helping others, especially children, as a guiding principle in their lives.

3. Announcements & Quick Transitions

• Upcoming: The discussion segues to a special roundtable with Si's son and family, promising stories of transition, healing, and horses.

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FEATURED CONVERSATION

Uncle Si’s Son on PTSD, Healing, and Horses (26:00–57:22)

A. Career Changes & PTSD (26:24–30:02)

• Si’s son (Scott or Marsha’s husband) reflects on 20 years in the military, retirement, and struggling after with panic attacks and PTSD.
  • “He was having panic attacks…all of his time in the war zone… caused him to have panic attacks. When we finally figured that out, we were trying to find a different job… that he would enjoy.” – Marsha’s daughter/family (27:37)
• After a conversation with Si, he pivots to work with horses, attending equine structural integration training.

B. Equine Therapy & Healing (30:03–40:41)

• How It Works: He explains fascia rebalancing in horses—loosening tension to “let the horse’s rib pop back in,” using hands-on methods.
• Emotional Connection: Horses sense their handler's emotional state; “Their heartbeat can sync with yours, which is really cool. They’re like emotional barometers.” – Si’s son (30:30)
• Personal Transformation:
  • “One of the things that helps me with the PTSD is you gotta kind of calm down. They'll know if you're upset… you have to re-center yourself.” – Si’s son (30:34, 37:32)
  • Being around horses brings grounding and peace, getting him “out of his head.”

C. Future Plans: Equine Therapy for Trauma (38:40–44:33)

• The family shares their dream of building an equine therapy program for veterans, children with trauma, and those with PTSD.
• Core Principle: “If you can get into the horse’s head and move the horse...the horse then learns that you are a safe person and they can trust you.” – Marsha’s daughter (39:35)
• Program will focus on groundwork, not just riding, to foster partnership and trust.

D. Horses, Dogs, Relationships, and Trust (41:25–54:49)

• Brutally Honest Animals: “You can lie to me all day...you're not lying to the animal. The animal knows you're not good.” – Si’s son (41:25)
• Bonding Importance: Si and family discuss the irreplaceable bond between military comrades—“Veterans are closer than blood...when I say thick and thin, that means dying and watching guys they loved leave this earth.” (50:13)
• Tribal Nature: When veterans return home, loss of camaraderie can lead to isolation—“Isolation leads to desolation. You have to have a network.” – Si’s son (47:11)

E. Families of Veterans (51:39–52:35)

• Families, spouses, children—often lack support networks and understanding. “A lot of times there’s not a group for us. For us to go to… I can speak with another spouse who understands what I'm going through.” – Marsha’s daughter

F. Final Faith Reflections (55:01–57:22)

• Do what you love & discover meaning: “If you do what you love, you'll never work a day in your life.” – Si’s son (55:10)
• Faith as a Foundation:
  • “If you don't have a relationship with the Creator...what is wrong with you? Get you one, and start today with them.” – Si Robertson (55:32)
• Psalm for the Day: “Be still before the Lord and wait patiently for him. Do not fret when people succeed in their ways...” – Psalm 37:7 quoted by Scott (56:24)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Community Impact:
  “One person can make a difference.” – Si Robertson (19:26)

• On Parental Determination:
  “That’s what happened with Morgan…mom got pissed. I went on a rampage, and I don’t blame her.” – Si Robertson (16:47)

• On Animal Therapy:
  “You can lie to me all day long, you’re not lying to the animal. The animal knows you’re not good.” – Si’s son (41:25)
  “Their heartbeat can sync with yours, which is really cool…they’re emotional barometers.” – Si’s son (30:30)

• On Military Brotherhood:
  “Veterans are closer than blood…they went through thick and thin…that means dying and watching guys they loved leave this earth.” – Si Robertson (50:13)

• On Faith and Blessings:
  “Test me in this, says the Lord Almighty...see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing…” – Malachi 3:10, read by Justin Martin (20:36)
  “Only Jesus can fill it.” – Si Robertson (57:12)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 01:05 – Banter, football, and sweet tea hilarity
• 05:14 – Si’s “hash yeast” airport story
• 15:06 – Morgan’s fundraising miracle update
• 26:24 – Si asks his son about his previous job and military background
• 30:03 – Equine structural integration explained
• 37:05 – Discussion: Have horses helped with PTSD?
• 39:35 – Program plans for trauma therapy with horses
• 41:25 – Animals and emotional honesty
• 50:13 – Si reflects on bonds between veterans
• 55:01 – Do what you love / final round of faith-based life advice
• 56:24 – Psalm 37:7 “Be still before the Lord…”
• 57:10 – The hole only Jesus can fill

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Conclusion

This episode skillfully weaves laughter, family stories, and classic Duck Call Room hijinks with deep personal insight into PTSD, military life, animal-assisted healing, and faith. The heartfelt testimony of Si’s son—transitioning from military trauma to hope through working with horses—anchors the episode and offers both practical wisdom and encouragement for listeners facing similar challenges.

Closing Message:
“Only Jesus can fill it.” – Si Robertson (57:12)
“Be still before the Lord and wait patiently…” – Psalm 37:7 (56:24)

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Duck Call Room Out.

Transcript

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[Si Robertson]

But I'll ask you two. You may not give me the answers at Martin.

[Justin Martin]

Wait till this starts at least. And please say you wish he was here.

[Si Robertson]

Oh, we're ready.

[Justin Martin]

I didn't know we were filming. Welcome back to the duck call room side. Martin's not here. So I was like, oh, sweet. We don't need him.

[Si Robertson]

I wish Martin was here, though.

[Marsha Robertson]

Why is that?

[Si Robertson]

Because he's in the football YouTube dummies. I don't know if you're into it or not.

[Marsha Robertson]

Whoa, hey, I watched all the games on side.

[Si Robertson]

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Justin Martin]

I know more football than Martin. Well, I can say that because he's not here.

[Si Robertson]

What about.

The way Lane Kipman was treated when he said, hey, he made.

[Justin Martin]

A decision the way he was treated.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah, I think it's right. He's the coach. He should have, like, be able to coach the last game.

[Marsha Robertson]

I think he wanted to stay in coach and finish. Yeah, but I don't think they would allow him.

[Si Robertson]

Hey, he's the one that will get.

[Marsha Robertson]

But he's not a victim. I don't think.

[Justin Martin]

You know, I have. When he said that, he out to his credit, he has said, I get paid to coach a football game. Hunter's pointing at stuff. I move stuff. Hunter. Hunter's by himself. Today. We're a skeleton crew. We're messing up. We're making mistakes, but we're going to make this work. No, Lane.

[Marsha Robertson]

But the brain power is still the same.

[Justin Martin]

It's hard to feel sorry for anybody that is going to make $13 million a year. Side. Because you don't have all the Internet and stuff. You were probably just watching it all unfold on tv. Yeah, okay.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah.

[Justin Martin]

Well, you know Marty Smith, the guy that Kept reporting from outside of the room that they were having the meeting in. He was on the podcast before the.

[Marsha Robertson]

One waiting the whole time.

[Justin Martin]

Yeah. And they. And then they kept putting pictures up of him with, like, a beard and as an old man still waiting. And I laughed and laughed.

[Marsha Robertson]

He was on our podcast.

[Si Robertson]

Oh, yeah.

[Marsha Robertson]

I didn't know that.

[Justin Martin]

He's friends of Justin Martin. He really probably.

[Si Robertson]

Apples.

[Marsha Robertson]

We should get Mark to come get on our show. He's. He's a writer for espn, and he. He helped s. He wrote size book or.

[Justin Martin]

He helped write size book. Yeah, and I said it, but somebody had to.

[Marsha Robertson]

Somebody. Yeah.

[Si Robertson]

Ghost Rider.

[Justin Martin]

Yeah, Ghost Rider.

[Si Robertson]

So you actually did do a lot of stuff on his own that he put in a book that was actually good.

[Justin Martin]

He was pretty good at it.

[Marsha Robertson]

Oh, by the way, Mark Slaybog, because he spent.

[Si Robertson]

Look, he spent a whole week with me.

[Marsha Robertson]

Yeah. So he.

[Si Robertson]

With me and Al, because Al was my.

I guess you could call him a coach. He. He would say, hey, tell him this one. You forgot one.

[Justin Martin]

Like Eagle the pigeon.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah, yeah, like Eagles pigeon. That's Al's favorite, by the way.

[Marsha Robertson]

Hey, what about when Slayball hung out with us for a week, and then we got him go out and eat, and he came and played poker with us. I mean, he was just one of the boys for a week.

[Si Robertson]

He shouldn't. He shouldn't have played poker with us.

[Justin Martin]

Nobody should play. Y' all were telling poker stories in here.

[Si Robertson]

We. We took him for a ride on that lane.

[Justin Martin]

Kiffin, if you would like to come do your first Louisiana podcast, please. With uncle.

[Si Robertson]

You're welcome.

[Justin Martin]

Come on in. We'll have you sign the lsu.

[Si Robertson]

We. We'll try to pick your brain where we can figure you out.

[Justin Martin]

I don't think anybody's figuring him out.

[Si Robertson]

All right.

[Marsha Robertson]

No, sa. Might be able to.

[Si Robertson]

No, no.

[Justin Martin]

You know, he does yoga every day.

[Si Robertson]

Does he?

[Justin Martin]

Yeah, but what's with all that?

[Si Robertson]

You getting in funky positions?

[Justin Martin]

Yeah, but he goes and does it in, like, a room where it's, like, a hundred degrees.

[Marsha Robertson]

Oh, no.

[Si Robertson]

Oh, he's in a sauna, too.

[Justin Martin]

A hot yoga. Would you do hot yoga?

[Si Robertson]

No.

[Justin Martin]

Why not?

[Si Robertson]

No, no, no. That's like a hot tub.

[Scott Robertson]

Yeah.

[Marsha Robertson]

No, I've seen sign of the hot tub. Not a pretty sight.

[Si Robertson]

You know, everybody thought I was drunk.

[Marsha Robertson]

Because he got out.

[Si Robertson]

Because you supposed to stay. You stay. You're supposed to stay in, like, 15 minutes. We stayed in, like, an hour and a half.

[Justin Martin]

Oh, boy.

[Si Robertson]

I couldn't even walk. That's true.

[Marsha Robertson]

People Were taking pictures of him.

[Si Robertson]

Everybody was taking pictures of him and said, guess who I seen just bombed out of his mind. Uncle Sigh.

[Justin Martin]

You were just dehydrated.

[Si Robertson]

I couldn't walk because I've just too much.

[Marsha Robertson]

That's one of my favorite stories. And also, when they got busted for hashish. Is that what they.

[Si Robertson]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Marsha Robertson]

I still have him up against the wall.

[Si Robertson]

That was at New York City Airport.

[Justin Martin]

They busted you for hashim?

[Si Robertson]

Yeah. Hey, look, my wife, okay, we're fixed to spend five days in New York City, okay? So my wife put in a box of tea with all the stuff that I needed to fix it. Well, guess what? The airline people throws your baggage around so bad that it busted all these tea bags in my bag. So the X ray caught that and they, you know, I'm going through, and the X ray started beeping. Well, then there was people coming out of the walls putting handcuffs on me and tell me, hey, yo. So everybody else in the other line was saying, uncle style, what'd they get you for? I said, they said something about hash yeast dealer. I said, what is hash yeast anyway? Is that some kind of meatball and spaghetti deal, yo? And I said, no, that's a drug. And I said, they think I'm doing drugs.

[Marsha Robertson]

What'd they get you for, Uncle Si?

[Justin Martin]

Hash yeast.

[Si Robertson]

Then I said, hey, it's evident y' all don't watch the show Duck Dynasty. I said, what did you see in my bag? They opened it. I said, what you see in my bag? They said, well, we see the hashish.

[Marsha Robertson]

We see a little jug and that little green cup.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah. Then it had a little green plastic cup. Then beside that, okay, Was.

I can't remember what else was that?

[Justin Martin]

It was something for Mac and T.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah, for Mac and T. And. And I said, it's evident y' all don't watch Duck Dynasty or make tea. I said, do you know. Do any of you know who I am? And they said, yeah, we. I know.

[Marsha Robertson]

I know about a lot of people in New York.

[Si Robertson]

Well, hey, I don't do drugs. I said, that's tea bags that are busted tea bags. Because the airport people threw my bag around too much. Yeah, be a little more careful with my baggage.

[Justin Martin]

And now, what'd you do with the tea?

[Si Robertson]

Like, stood away. I mean. I mean, a new box, you know, it's weird.

[Justin Martin]

Hold on.

[Marsha Robertson]

I'm going to tell you what happened with the tea. When we were in New York, he said, they swept that day up and threw it away. But when we were in New York, He's. He said, hey, Philip, call down there and get me some tea. Well, it's not any kind of like community or Lipton. No, it's. No, first of all, anybody that spoke English on the phone. So we're trying to get. We're trying to get some tea up and.

[Si Robertson]

Sounds like, oh, I've had some nightmare stuff at tea because of getting tea. I got him to call down and said, hey, send me a gallon. That's four quarts if you don't. Yeah, I told him. I said, that's four quarts. If you ain't got a gallon, send me four quarts of tea. So they. Do you know what it cost the people that paid for my room and all that?

[Justin Martin]

It was $50 for a gallon of tea.

[Si Robertson]

For a gallon of tea. How do you get that chick fil a you talking about Rip off?

[Justin Martin]

That's a rip off.

[Si Robertson]

Oh, yeah, it was a rip.

[Justin Martin]

They must have had to unsweeten it, huh? Well, no, that doesn't make any sense, by the way, unsweet tea.

[Si Robertson]

Yes, it does.

[Justin Martin]

No, it doesn't.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah, it does.

[Justin Martin]

No, it's just. No, that's just tea.

[Si Robertson]

No, let me undo this. Oh, no, let's, let's. Let me tell you the story.

[Justin Martin]

They didn't take anything out. It's just tea. Yeah, unsweet would be like you had to do something to the sweetness. No, no, they're just dumping sugar in tea.

[Si Robertson]

They just jumping. They're just dumping like four cups of sugar and tea. And that's why everybody's teeth are rotten out. That's why everybody obese.

[Justin Martin]

Hold on, hold on. Your teeth aren't doing great.

[Si Robertson]

They're all on the sugar high.

[Justin Martin]

I'm just saying, as a man who doesn't drink sweet tea over there, your teeth weren't doing that great.

[Si Robertson]

Just. Oh, I know that because, hey, I just had them all pulled. And hey, you won't believe what 77 years to do to your teeth.

[Justin Martin]

Well, hey, when it next to you for a long time, when are you.

[Marsha Robertson]

When are you going to bring the bag out and show everybody the teeth? Have you done that yet?

[Si Robertson]

No, I ain't done it yet.

[Marsha Robertson]

He's got them because I wait, they were rough.

[Si Robertson]

I look at them and here's the thing. The normal human being has got 32 teeth. That is with your wisdom teeth.

[Justin Martin]

And you're not normal.

[Si Robertson]

They usually pull the wisdom teeth. So you really don't have a 30. I had lost 20.

For one reason or another. I lost 20 teeth. I only had 12 left in my head.

[Justin Martin]

And you're taking shots at the people drinking sweet tea.

[Si Robertson]

And I blame it on sweet.

[Justin Martin]

You blame it on sweet tea?

[Si Robertson]

No, sweet tea. Sugar, not tree. Tree. Or three. Sweet, unsweet tea.

[Justin Martin]

You drink unsweet tea.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah.

[Justin Martin]

Which should just be called tea.

[Marsha Robertson]

Yeah. I said sigh. You can afford sugar if you want.

[Si Robertson]

It's gotta be dark. See how dark that is?

[Marsha Robertson]

Let me see.

[Justin Martin]

I will say one time in college. I was in college and I was drinking like.

[Si Robertson]

You can't read nothing to that. You read a newspaper to it. Throw it in the trash can. Throw it in the trash can.

[Justin Martin]

I was drinking a lot of sweet tea. Captain D's had the best.

[Marsha Robertson]

Oh, yes.

[Si Robertson]

Bad fight. Bad.

[Marsha Robertson]

Correct.

[Justin Martin]

I was like, I'm going to try diet where I just don't drink sweet tea. And I go to unsweet tea.

[Si Robertson]

And now it's the same effect. Look, I cannot. If you drink about three cases of Mountain Dew or 7Up, or any soda.

[Marsha Robertson]

No, I can't.

[Si Robertson]

Sugar.

[Marsha Robertson]

Now, if you just stay off of sugar for a while and then you go back and drink a Dr. Pepper or a Coke.

[Si Robertson]

Not as good.

[Marsha Robertson]

So sweet. You can't stand it.

[Si Robertson]

Oh, no.

[Justin Martin]

That's how he drives to me.

[Si Robertson]

I'm like, right? Because you talking about bad sweet.

[Justin Martin]

If you want to sweeten it, just put some lemonade in it.

[Si Robertson]

Oh, that's good. That's good stuff. That's why. What is it called? One of the golfers used to drink it.

[Justin Martin]

An Arnold.

[Si Robertson]

Arnold Pommel.

[Marsha Robertson]

Arnold Pommel lemonade.

[Si Robertson]

Hey, it's tea with a bunch of lemon. Yeah, that's what I do. I have a lot of tea. He's giving us a sample crystal.

[Marsha Robertson]

I do love the fact showing the lemon Crystal.

[Justin Martin]

Four years you've carried gallons Ziploc bag of lemon.

[Si Robertson]

You can't take a.

[Marsha Robertson]

Everywhere we go.

[Si Robertson]

No, no. You can't take a dozen lemons with you because then you got to have a knife and then you got to have a towel to. Oh, wow. To dry thing off from the lemon. They're spraying everywhere.

[Justin Martin]

The relief band is like magic. You used it on the fishing boat.

[Marsha Robertson]

Yep.

[Justin Martin]

And it took all that nausea and motion sickness out.

[Marsha Robertson]

That's it.

[Si Robertson]

Boom.

[Justin Martin]

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[Marsha Robertson]

And then puts it back.

[Justin Martin]

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Hold on.

[Si Robertson]

You are. Hold on.

[Justin Martin]

Look at Martin live in the duck call room. Martin.

[Si Robertson]

What? What? Look out.

[Scott Robertson]

Look out there.

[Si Robertson]

Look out there. Snow. Where you at? Missouri.

[Scott Robertson]

I am in Missouri.

[Si Robertson]

That's what I talk about, baby. Snow.

[Scott Robertson]

All kinds of snow.

[Si Robertson]

What have you been killing?

[Scott Robertson]

Mallard ducks.

[Si Robertson]

Mallard ducks? The greenhead ones?

[Scott Robertson]

Yeah.

[Si Robertson]

Oh, you been shooting them hens, too?

[Scott Robertson]

No hens.

[Si Robertson]

Uh. Oh, no hens. They only on the drakes. Boys, you don't.

[Scott Robertson]

You don't have to.

[Si Robertson]

Here.

You like. Hey, you look like a movie star. That trip does you some good.

Hey, y' all ain't noticed how good he looked?

[Justin Martin]

Martin, do you look better than normal?

[Si Robertson]

Yeah.

[Scott Robertson]

Huh?

[Marsha Robertson]

Yeah, he does. He's my hair.

[Justin Martin]

Sigh.

[Marsha Robertson]

He went and had a makeover, so.

[Si Robertson]

Hey, you got a haircut in the bench trim or what, son?

[Scott Robertson]

I'm bald. Si, you know.

[Si Robertson]

Well, what'd you do, shave it and let the shoe shine boy pop it?

[Scott Robertson]

That's that white reflection from the snow. It's extra bright.

I love that he's looking at the TV to look at me. This makes me happy.

[Justin Martin]

If you could see me. I've got two microphones, one to my computer, one turned around. We're really high tech here in the.

[Si Robertson]

Duck call room today. We Got it. We got it going on.

I'm serious. You must have got some rest or something. You ain't never looked that good, Sigh.

[Scott Robertson]

I just shot mallard ducks at 10 yards with a 20 gauge in the snow.

[Si Robertson]

Oh, that's why you look so good.

[Scott Robertson]

I'm stress free. We're good.

[Si Robertson]

Oh, okay.

[Justin Martin]

We're the happiest Martin.

[Si Robertson]

Okay, look, he's gonna just say he's relieving all stress.

[Scott Robertson]

All right, well, I just wanted to call and check in. I ain't doing nothing.

[Justin Martin]

Hey, we're just doing like a little halvesy episode today. See what happens. Gonna add it with something else.

[Scott Robertson]

Ding, ding.

[Justin Martin]

While you were gone, have some fun. Hey, I am about. You saw the update on our friend Morgan, didn't you?

[Scott Robertson]

Yeah.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

They made it.

[Si Robertson]

Well, hold on.

[Justin Martin]

I was about to tell.

[Si Robertson]

Sigh. Morgan? Who's Morgan?

[Justin Martin]

Well, I'll tell you. I'm going to give side the whole update here in a minute, but I was going to let you know, but.

[Scott Robertson]

I figured draw for the winner of our cup. Listen.

[Justin Martin]

Oh, yeah, we got to do that. We got to do that.

[Si Robertson]

Oh, that Morgan.

[Justin Martin]

That Morgan.

[Si Robertson]

Okay. Lily's Morgan.

[Scott Robertson]

Well, over and out.

[Justin Martin]

But since he was there, I was like, if he doesn't know because he's out hunting, I'm going to let him know. Our friend Morgan brought the daughter Lydia onto the show. Told her whole story. If you haven't seen that episode, please go back and watch. It's unbelievable. Long story short, her daughter was diagnosed with a terminal disease. But we live in amazing times where that disease might not no longer be terminal, but they were facing one challenge, which was a bunch of money. She wasn't looking for somebody to just fix it. She was looking for a bunch of people to give 16 bucks.

[Si Robertson]

Right?

[Justin Martin]

And the 14 families had to raise $3.8 million or something like that. Morgan by herself, raised $2 million.

[Marsha Robertson]

Wow.

[Justin Martin]

And it was. That's 1.3 since she was on our show. And the whole all the families together are at five and a half million. So they made it. They're going to start the treatment. It's San Filippo syndrome. For those of you that.

[Si Robertson]

This is like 16 kids, guys. Yeah. That has this disease.

[Justin Martin]

So these 16 kids, they made their goal plus some. So they're gonna start it in January and we're gonna keep up with her. I don't know how that girl got after it and raised that money.

[Si Robertson]

That's why. That's why, like if when you fool with a bear and her cubs, you don't fool with mom, you don't fool. That's what happened with Morgan. Morgan, her. She's got a little girl. Beautiful little girl, got a terminal disease. You know, mom got pissed. I went on a rampage, and I don't blame her.

[Justin Martin]

And you're right. Mom got pissed and she went to work, and I. We've kind of become friends. I've been watching her on Facebook, and she's been doing something every day. She was at a lemonade stand one like, it was scratching, clawing, doing everything. She.

[Si Robertson]

That's what I tell you. Don't mess with mom.

[Justin Martin]

But they have made it. They got more to go in the spring. So if you want to give more, please keep going. They still got more to do, but go check out that episode, too. It's unbelievable, but it's great. And we got to give away that cup. We'll wait till Martin gets back, because I'm not going to give the number. We wanted to just give her a voice and play a small part. And I text her, just said, hey, glad we could help out. And a little. I said, a little? She said, a little. She said, y' all like the duck call room fans, not us. We didn't do anything. Showed up, showed that, like, it was unbelievable what you guys that listen did. So just a really cool story heading into the holiday season right after Thanksgiving and all that.

[Si Robertson]

Here's the thing, guys. Nobody else needs to know, but the Almighty does, and you will be blessed because of it.

[Justin Martin]

Amen to that.

[Si Robertson]

Hey, I guarantee that.

[Justin Martin]

Amen to that. It was cry. I watched that thing. Like, I was looking at football scores every night. Like, it was part. I was, like, checking it out. I was like, this girl, it's gonna make it. And that's. I mean, wow. If you told me, hey, go get that much money in a month, here's. I wouldn't even know where to start.

[Si Robertson]

Here's the thing.

[Justin Martin]

She was literally at lemonade stands.

[Si Robertson]

Here's the thing is so wonderful about it, okay? People always said, hey, y', all, can one person make a difference? You bet your bippy. One person.

[Justin Martin]

What are we betting?

[Marsha Robertson]

Your baby. Your baby Bippy at that baby.

[Si Robertson]

No.

[Justin Martin]

Unbelievable. I was excited to tell you because I was like, sign on Facebook.

[Si Robertson]

No, I get you don't know he.

[Marsha Robertson]

Is, but he ain't.

[Justin Martin]

And today, the day we're recording, this was the day they had to have it by. And like, last night, I was like, I hope it happened, because I. But I knew they were close. I was like, ain't no way they're not somebody. Hey, that's gonna work.

[Si Robertson]

Here's the deal. Don't ever give up.

[Marsha Robertson]

That's right. All the years that we've been traveling and we've gone to so many places and side just picks and chooses his own events and what he does want to do, if it doesn't have to do with helping children or helping something, then he don't want to do it.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah.

[Marsha Robertson]

And so over the years, we've helped a lot of people. And sigh.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

You've.

[Marsha Robertson]

You've helped a lot of children and families, and one person makes a difference. And you've made a big difference.

[Si Robertson]

I've been. I'm a big kid.

[Marsha Robertson]

You are a kid.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Yeah.

[Marsha Robertson]

And I'm the size sitter.

[Si Robertson]

Adults are boring. It's got it going on.

[Justin Martin]

That is.

[Marsha Robertson]

Well, Johnny D. That's amazing.

[Justin Martin]

Definitely true. Great news that kids got it going on. Although I do remember that on this very podcast, that one was one of our more serious of all time, and it started with Godwin in a Speedo. So, you know, we are definitely the children, but for some reason, people listen. So, hey, that. That one. That one worked out great. I'm still wondering why Godwin has a red Speedo, though.

[Si Robertson]

I can't even pronounce what John was in.

[Justin Martin]

Can't pronounce. Speedo.

[Si Robertson]

Speedo. Hey, I told you I didn't know how to do.

[Justin Martin]

Oh, Speedo.

[Marsha Robertson]

Speedo.

[Justin Martin]

Well, Hunter, you want me to end this one with the Bible verse? Is this going to be the end of one?

[Si Robertson]

We.

[Justin Martin]

We're kind of. Look, thank y' all for hanging out with us through the holidays. I know y' all probably traveling, so hopefully we've been able to give you a laugh or something like that. And some of these episodes have been a little pieced together. We appreciate you just tuning in, and we have had a lot of really cool guests on. So thanks for tuning in. But here's your Bible verse, and it's one I always remember. Malachi 3 10. They're talking about tithing in the Old Testament. Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse that there may be food in my house. Test me in this, says the Lord Almighty. Which is kind of scary if God's saying, like, hey, try me and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it. And I think that's kind of what you were getting at with Psy. He. He's done all this for kids and now size living a Life that we side. Did you see this coming?

[Si Robertson]

The what?

[Justin Martin]

Did you see this life coming that you got?

[Si Robertson]

No. No.

[Justin Martin]

And so I think God knew that you had a spot in your heart for kids and doing stuff like that. And here we are today. And I think God's blessing you.

[Si Robertson]

I'll give you. I'll give you a song that will go with this. Kris Kristofferson wrote it. Chris.

[Justin Martin]

Christopher.

[Si Robertson]

The title of it is why me, Lord? What have I ever done to deserve even one lesson you've gave me?

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Yeah.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah.

[Justin Martin]

And, well, the blessings he's given you have stewarded well, my friend.

[Si Robertson]

The blessings that God has poured out on the Robertson family are beyond measure and beyond. Imagine what all he can do.

[Marsha Robertson]

And don't forget, guys, you can make a difference. No matter where you are, no matter what you're doing, you can make a difference in somebody's life.

[Si Robertson]

One person can make a difference.

[Justin Martin]

And if you're a pissed off mom.

[Si Robertson]

Just go on a rampage like Morgan did.

[Marsha Robertson]

Rally the troops.

[Justin Martin]

Rally. We're. We're transitioning over you. Some special people in your life.

Young Scott Robertson.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah, y' all need to stay tuned for this because. Hey, look, I asked you a question, okay? Tell the folks what you did before you got me and said, hey, I can help you spend all that money you got, Okay?

[Justin Martin]

I can't wait to listen.

[Si Robertson]

I love you. Look, it was a great.

[Marsha Robertson]

I can't wait either.

[Si Robertson]

It's gonna be great.

[Justin Martin]

Oh, that's awesome. Stay tuned. We're out.

Oh, this is one of my favorites.

[Marsha Robertson]

What is it?

[Justin Martin]

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[Marsha Robertson]

Hey, they're comfortable. I wear them, my wife wears them. And guess who else does? His wife loves them.

[Justin Martin]

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[Si Robertson]

Hey, we was talking about my dating years and they was telling me, oh, we're gonna have to edit a lot of this out. And I swam it. That was the best time in my life. What do you mean edited out?

[Scott Robertson]

No, we can't talk about that.

Because it brings up troop morale. But we'll cut it out.

[Si Robertson]

I'd be like, cut it out?

[Scott Robertson]

You have no idea there's a problem. You have no idea how much we have to edit you.

[Si Robertson]

Well, no, I know. I know that.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

That's why Hunter needs a.

[Si Robertson]

No, I'll make them. I'll make them earn their money.

[Scott Robertson]

But I've always told you your memorial service is going to be lit, man, because we're going to play all that.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah. Oh, I fix that. Hey, y' all have a party.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

You know what we're gonna do?

[Scott Robertson]

We're gonna have all the editing.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

It's gonna be something.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

We're gonna do a video where he speaks to everybody at his memorial service. He's gonna leave the last message.

[Si Robertson]

That would be good. Y' all all here?

[Scott Robertson]

Yeah. Yeah, I guess y'. All.

[Si Robertson]

I got the same question. I had it when I was alive.

[Scott Robertson]

Yeah.

[Si Robertson]

What are you doing here?

[Scott Robertson]

Yeah, I guess you're wondering why I gathered y' all today.

[Si Robertson]

Why are you gathered here today?

[Scott Robertson]

Well, welcome back to the podcast, ladies and gentlemen. We are are back in the duck call room with size son and daughter in law. So they were such a big hit last time they came in for the holidays.

[Si Robertson]

That's right.

[Scott Robertson]

So we said, I know you're here. For vacation and visiting. But we're going to put you to work. So, you know, get up there and let's record a podcast.

[Si Robertson]

Here's what we want to know. Oh, and here's what the fans want to know. You know, you used to have a ordinary job, so to speak.

So you talk to dad, okay? And we made an agreement that I would help you out, since you're going up with my money anyway. You and my daughter and the grandkids, you know. So tell us what your job was before.

[Scott Robertson]

I don't get none of it.

[Si Robertson]

And then.

[Scott Robertson]

And I've done a lot for you, I just come to the realization I don't even get 20 bucks, man.

[Si Robertson]

No, you can't chime in there, son.

But anyway, tell us what you did before.

Oh, by the way, he did spend 20 years in the military, and I was against it and told him not to do it. Okay. But he did. He did just what I did. I ignored everybody. Everything everybody told me, too. So you got the floor, sir.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

So I used to work for Buck Knives after I retired.

For a while doing that job.

I remember if it was. I had a bad day or something, but Marcia had asked me, you know, what do you. If you could do anything, what would you want to do? And I'm like, work on horses.

[Si Robertson]

Well, we.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

We got a backup a little bit.

[Scott Robertson]

That was a way different answer.

[Justin Martin]

I got it.

[Si Robertson]

Oh, you got it.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

Hold on.

[Si Robertson]

You got a fact checker, too? I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

We got to back up, because it wasn't just having a bad day. He was having panic attacks.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

I was doing the abridged because of. I was doing the abridged version.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

Well, because of that.

[Si Robertson]

And then all of his time in.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

The war zone, he worked on big machines or worked with big machines, and what they were standing on was grading. It wasn't a concrete floor, so there was vibration, which then caused him to have panic attacks. And when we finally figured that out, we were trying to find a different job for him to go to that would pay pretty close to the same, that he would do something that he would enjoy. Now, you can finish your story, which.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Is why when she asked me that, I said, work with horses.

[Scott Robertson]

Well, here's the beauty of this, Scott. You know, most time people, you want to make long story short, but this a podcast, so you can leave the long story long. It's fine.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

I mean.

I was trying to shorten it up, but you fast forward a little bit. After we had the conversation with dad, and he's like, I'll bankroll it. And I've done two out of the three modules for the School for Equine Structural Integrationist and massage. And basically what it is, is there's the human version as well. It's fascia rebalancing. Right. So what is fascia? When you look at, like, anybody that's seen a steak with marbling, the marbling is the fascia. It's the gooey stuff that they have to get rid of to get to your muscles and things of that nature. And what we've done is we've found out scientifically that it's not useless goop. Right. God put it there for a purpose. And it's energy transference. It helps balance your system out structurally. So where the horses are concerned, if they get like a vertebra out of place, right, and it's not chiropractic, but if they get a vertebra out of place, most of the time it's from. Let's say one gets kicked in the ribs by another horse, that muscle, just like ours, is going to tense up to protect it. So we go in there and we actually help loosen that up. The fascia relaxes and when it tightens up, sometimes it'll pull a rib out of place. Well, if you loosen that fascia back up, that rib just kind of like naturally pops back in, unless it's broken. So that's what they trained us to do. Which has been really, really interesting because you get feedback from the owners.

[Si Robertson]

Right?

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

The horse will give you feedback, but you get feedback from the owners after they ride them and after they see. Because they're with the horse all the time. And I've had a lot of really good feedback. You can go up to a horse. One of the things that helps me with the PTSD is you got to kind of calm down. Like, they'll know if you're upset and they're not going to like it. Right. Their heartbeat can sync with yours, which is really cool.

[Scott Robertson]

That's interesting. Yeah.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Like, so it's. I look at them, I call them, like emotional barometers.

[Scott Robertson]

I've never liked horses, so I don't.

[Si Robertson]

Well, no, no, because it's the same thing with any animal.

[Scott Robertson]

That's a big critter, man.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Yeah.

[Si Robertson]

Like most people. My mother told me it was when I was a child, you know, if. If a dog that normally is laying down is. Somebody comes in the house and if he starts that low, throaty growl.

My mother told me, do not trust that individual.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Don't trust him.

[Scott Robertson]

You ever Been bit.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah. Huh? Oh, yeah.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Be like, yeah, you might not understand why the dog did it, but the dog had a reason to do it.

[Si Robertson]

Oh, I know why the dog did it.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

You got to watch dogs, man. They got little dog syndrome.

[Si Robertson]

Oh, no, no, because what. It was. Okay, that was when I was in the clumsy stage.

[Scott Robertson]

Okay, You've graduated.

[Si Robertson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I graduated out of. I went through that, too.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

It's back to those phases we were talking about.

[Si Robertson]

Little dogs don't like clumsy people.

[Scott Robertson]

You do realize you fell out of a boat last year, right?

[Si Robertson]

Oh, yeah.

[Scott Robertson]

Oh, yeah.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah. Well, it wasn't my fault. Somebody in the back moved and the boat was on the ground, and when I stepped out, it had gone back two foot and the ground wasn't there. And it was.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Oh, I hate it.

[Si Robertson]

Look. And I hit on my auction machine and like, to broke my ribs. Yeah.

[Scott Robertson]

So I was just trying to figure out what you qualified as the clumsy stage. I didn't know. So that.

[Si Robertson]

No, no. That was my own stupidity.

[Scott Robertson]

Okay.

[Si Robertson]

Was trying to step off the boat instead of waiting for one of you young men to say, hey, get out and help me out.

[Scott Robertson]

Yeah.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

So it was your fault.

[Si Robertson]

Oh, well, no, I said my own stupidity done it. Okay. I got in a hurry. And in my age don't get in a hurry. You're not like you used to be.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

You can't do that.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, no.

[Scott Robertson]

There you go.

[Si Robertson]

You'll put this thing in grandma.

Okay. You know, like rabbit.

What I call my horse when I'm filming? I got a little scooter I ride around on. It's got. It's got a slow turtle. Then you move to fast rabbit. Well, I keep it in fast rabbit, so I'm always chasing people jumping our way. I like to run over him one day.

[Scott Robertson]

Yeah, well, the problem. The problem wasn't the gas on me. It was the brakes. You locked them up. We went through and they had us running.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah. We went through a swinging door.

[Scott Robertson]

Yeah.

[Si Robertson]

And soon as I got through my stop, well, he. He was still running.

[Scott Robertson]

Yeah. They had me looking over my. They had me looking over my shoulder. Run. And next thing I know, there's a roadblock.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Bam.

[Si Robertson]

Golly.

[Scott Robertson]

I almost ended up in his lap.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah. I went over dangerous.

[Scott Robertson]

Yeah. It's a hard. Yeah.

[Si Robertson]

Well, back to the animals.

[Scott Robertson]

Yeah.

[Si Robertson]

No.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

Okay.

[Si Robertson]

Animals have.

I call it sixth sense. That's why when that stallion. When I climbed on the fence, me and him had bonded.

Okay. And like you said, our heartbeats were probably, you know, because we're both just sitting there enjoying. Enjoying each other.

[Justin Martin]

Yep.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah. And like you said, like, if you're.

Real, real afraid of something, you got a real phobia of something. Animals will pick up on that, and.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

It'S going to make it. It's going to make them uncomfortable. They'll.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah, it gives them the jitters. Yep. You know, they get. They get real nervous because you're. You're putting out bad vibes. Yep.

[Justin Martin]

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[Marsha Robertson]

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[Justin Martin]

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[Marsha Robertson]

And now you got it in all kinds of different flavors. Citrus berry, tropical.

[Justin Martin]

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[Marsha Robertson]

Hey, we drink it every day. And look, you're going to spend the money. Go ahead and spend it on something, right? And that's good for you. Like AG1.

[Justin Martin]

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[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

The bible is very clear about being still. It mentions be still a lot. And there's A reason. Because if you don't pay attention to your surroundings and you don't stop, especially where God is concerned, we miss so much of what he's trying to tell us when we're constantly trying to move, work, talk over something.

Overthink. You have to be still. And that's. That's one of the key things with working with the horses, is if you're still, if you stop and you just pay attention to their body language, their movement.

The way their ears move, you're going to be able to tell a lot.

[Si Robertson]

I put this into perspective. Hunting. I'll use deer. I'm in the deer stand. Two or three does come out. Anytime they look up and look around, there's a reason. That's the part about, well, be still and, you know, know what's going on around you. But my question is, has fooling horses helped you?

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Oh, definitely.

[Si Robertson]

With your problem? Yeah.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Definitely.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah. Okay.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

He is a completely different person when he is around the horses and a lot of people.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Yet you use different words, right? But it's like people talk about, well, you need to be grounded. I had one day where I went out there, and it was not a good day for me, right? And the horses are like, they're not used to that from me, so they're like, whoa, whoa.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah. What's on?

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

What's going on with you? Yeah, it wasn't working. And I'm like, okay, I need to take a moment. And I walked out the barn, and Marsha's like, what's going on?

[Si Robertson]

You all right?

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Yeah, I just need to re. Center myself because it's not working and they're getting jittery. So I'm gonna go calm down and come back. And I calmed down and I came back and I was still a little, eh, but not enough for the horse to look at me and go, no, bro, not today. You know, they're like, okay, we can work with this. Because it. The thing that gets me about, like, relationships in general, right? It's supposed to be a partnership. It's supposed to be a collaboration, right? Whether it's man to animal, you know, man to woman, adult to child, it's supposed to be a collaboration, not you're a tool. And I'm just going to do that with a tool and not care for you. And there are a lot of people that don't understand that. And I think.

That messes up where they want to go with the equine, with the horse.

[Si Robertson]

It's. It's pretty wild when you think about it.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

Yeah, well. And we haven't even. We haven't even talked to you about our plans.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Yeah, I can't wait till we have the infrastructure where I can actually pull from blm because they won't give you. They won't give you mustangs until you have a certain infrastructure set up. They won't let you do it. That's. The big plan is to do equine trauma with, like, veterans, autistic and traumatic.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

Injuries, children who've had trauma.

[Si Robertson]

Okay.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

People who have had trauma. So we have learned and are learning how to work with the horses. Eventual program will be groundwork. So that is more like where Scott is concerned with dealing with ptsd. That gets him out of his head. And he has to focus on the horse and moving the horse, which in turn, the horse then learns that you are a safe person.

And they can trust you. So if you can move the horse, what is it? You control the horse's brain.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

You control the movement.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

The brain before the feet, the mind before the feet. So if you can get into the horse's head and you can move the horse, and we move the horse. You saw videos that mom showed you, right? Oh, they're not on lead. You're in a round pen, and you learn to move them around, and they learn to trust you.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Yeah. So it's. It's body mechanics and intent.

[Si Robertson]

No, no. Because I always wanted to watch the western movies and stuff one day was. It was about horse training.

They always lead them around.

Some of them had a whip in their hands, some of them didn't. No.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

It's really interesting. So they have that. They. And I forget. It's like Big Eagle Ranch, I think.

I was looking. And they don't have any horse programs up where we're at. They're all down south toward Boise.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

We have a lot of veterans in our area. There's not programs to help.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Yeah, you look at it like going back to my statement. They're. They're emotional barometers. Right. So you don't put anybody on the horse. We eventually want to be able to do that, but that would be a separate. Separate thing. So say you have a trainer come in and you show this group of people with trauma that the horse can be moved. You do it, and then you have them try to do it. And if you don't have that connection or the person's vibe, like, you'd ask them, are you good? You good? You okay? All right. Most veterans are going to be like, oh, yeah, I'm fine. They're not Fine.

[Si Robertson]

Well, they're not.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

They're not at all. Yeah, but they're gonna fake it, right?

[Si Robertson]

Yeah.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

You can't fake it with a horse. Can't. It's going to pick up on it and then you're not going to be able to get the horse to do what the person just did. So this is supposed to bring the person to a state where they're like, okay, hold on a second. That looked pretty simple. Why can't I do it? Well, let's have a conversation about that. Are you good? Because I can tell you right now, watching you work with a horse, you can lie to me all day long, you're not lying to the animal. The animal knows you're not good. Which is why it's like, bro, I'm not working with you. You have to get yourself straight to be able to collaborate with that animal.

[Si Robertson]

Well, you're going back now to the relationship.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

Yeah, but if you're not, because if.

[Si Robertson]

I don't trust you, I'm not going to open up to you. Now, I'm thinking about the point now that a lot of people look, and here comes a person with a dog and the dog looks like the owner and also has got a lot of mannerisms of the owner because that's that bond that we're talking about. That's why you were saying if a veteran is round a horse and someone asked, hey, are you okay? And he lies and says, yeah, I'm fine. Well, the horse is saying, now you're a ball face liar.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Well, it's just like you're not fine.

[Si Robertson]

You got some problems and you're not addressing them.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Oh, my God, I can't remember what it's called now.

[Scott Robertson]

It was dogs.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Ducks and what? Dogs. Ducks and discipleship.

[Si Robertson]

Right.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

When we went up to Canada to the bottom. So it's kind of the same thing.

[Si Robertson]

Oh, no.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Kind of the same thing, just on a different level.

[Si Robertson]

No, no, because when I was with them guys up there, this is Navy seals, black ops, Special forces of all types, okay? And they treated me, okay, the ordinary soldier, okay? Like I was one of them. And I told them to their face, now, I appreciate what you're doing.

But, dude, I know me and I know what you do. I'm not in your class.

You know, And I honest, I understood that, okay? But they still treated me as an equal because I wore the uniform, okay? Which is a good thing. Okay? But you know. Yeah, and see, that's the same thing about if you get people together. I love this for one reason. And I don't know if y' all are talking about you're actually going to go. Once you get trained properly, may be going into the medical field with the horses for other people.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Si Robertson]

So that's a good thing. Okay. Because they. Bonding with an animal.

Okay. Is a big thing.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

That's a big deal.

[Si Robertson]

Because. Because if maybe you can't bond with a fellow human being, maybe you don't even bond with your wife, so to speak. You're missing a lot.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

Well. And you're talking about.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Sorry, no, no, you're fine.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

You're talking about the special forces treating you like you're one of them. Right?

[Si Robertson]

Yeah.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

You have to remember they're good at reading people. They have to be good at reading people.

[Si Robertson]

Well, that's true.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

And so they know when someone's good and they know when someone has ill intent, which in turn them doing what they call the work with the dogs, which would also be kind of the same thing as us working with the horses. They have to learn to take that intent or that how they read someone.

And read the horse or the diagnosis is.

[Si Robertson]

Is key.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

It's them getting out of their head. Right. And being able to focus on something else.

That helps them stay out of that. What would you call it?

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Just that. That mentality.

[Si Robertson]

Non.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

Productivity. Yeah. Well, to stay out of like the. The dark place that they. They can end up going to.

[Justin Martin]

Oh, baby, baby, baby.

[Marsha Robertson]

I've been sleeping like a baby.

[Justin Martin]

Everybody ever look at you and say, how do you sleep at night?

[Marsha Robertson]

Yeah. How do you sleep at night? Like a baby.

[Justin Martin]

Like a baby. Because I took a quiz and Helix made a mattress.

[Marsha Robertson]

That's right.

[Justin Martin]

Just for me.

[Marsha Robertson]

Yep.

[Justin Martin]

Sigh. How do you. Sprawled out everywhere, aren't you?

[Si Robertson]

No.

[Justin Martin]

Curled up in a ball.

[Si Robertson]

No, I've. Sometimes I lay down and don't even move.

[Justin Martin]

That's what I'm talking.

[Si Robertson]

I'm real tired. I'm serious.

[Justin Martin]

The quiz is super simple. It takes just a couple minutes. You put your weight, your height. If you sleep on your back and.

[Si Robertson]

You can't flunk it.

[Justin Martin]

I've had that mattress for three years now. And if someone.

[Si Robertson]

You wouldn't give it up for anything.

[Justin Martin]

No, sir. I love that thing. We all have the Helix mattress. The unashamed guys have them. Sadie has one. They're seriously the best. My mother in law stayed over our house one time, was like, what in the world is this mattress? And I was like, take the quiz lady.

[Marsha Robertson]

She had to get one.

[Justin Martin]

I got the sleep tracker. My wife tells me her sleep score all the time. Hers is insane. Hers is better than mine. She ate like a 92 over Thanksgiving break. That's a very high sleep score. But not only do you sleep better, if you got back pain, it's going to help with that body ache, stiff muscles, you need a good night's sleep. No matter what you're doing, you're going to wake up feeling better. So look, right now, go to helixsleep.com duck for 27% off site wide. Exclusive for listeners of the duck call room. That's helixsleep.com duck for 27% off site wide. Make sure you in our show name after checkout so they know we sent you. Helix sleep.com duck.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

I went to an outing with an organization called Wild Ops, and one of the guys there, Drew, had a saying, isolation leads to desolation. Right. And it, it really is. You have to have a network, right. Of people that care. And I think that's one of the reasons why veterans kind of group together, right?

[Si Robertson]

Well, they got, they.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Well, you have people that understand you.

[Si Robertson]

They don't have many people that they have a, have common ground on.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Yeah.

[Si Robertson]

Okay. That's why we come to each other.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Well, that's the whole, that's the whole reason we're, we're tribal to begin with.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Is everybody gets into their own little clicks.

[Si Robertson]

Right.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

But we, I, I think we forget a lot that when.

When a military member leaves the military, that group of people has become their family. Right. And you get separated from that family, well, then you're an orphan. A lot of people no longer have contact with those people or you unfortunately, lose people and they pass away.

And so a lot of times they will isolate themselves because those are the people that they trust and those are the. Their family. And.

They don't reach out to people around them because they don't know if they can trust them. And I know, and this is not me saying that therapy is not good, but I know a lot of people that they don't want to go sit with a therapist because the therapist hasn't gone through what they've gone through.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Not just that, though. It, the medical system is the medical system. It is what it is. Right. And the problem is, is like horror stories of people that gone through the va, Right? And the VA does what it does. And I'm sure there are lots of people in there that love their job and want to help the soldiers, but the system has veterans bouncing between this counselor and then this counselor and this counselor and then this counselor.

[Si Robertson]

It's A new face. All.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

It's a new face every time that you have to open up to share your soul.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah. That's as hard to do. That's when it's a tribal that don't. The tribal. Don't actually say it. And I'll go back to what we was talking about with the horses and animals. The bonding.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

That's the relationship.

[Si Robertson]

You know, most of the people that have been to combat and have written about it, there's a bond there and a connection there that no one else will have. It will be between them. Individuals that have been tested by baptism of gunfire. Okay. Losing their brothers.

[Scott Robertson]

Yep.

[Si Robertson]

Okay. Because I. Trust me when I tell you veterans are closer than blood.

Okay. Because they went through thick and thin. And when I say thick and thin, that means dying and watching guys that they loved. Okay. Leave this earth.

So it's a thing about. That's why the bonding is so important.

You know, if you ask one person, okay, what's the most important thing on this earth happening with human beings? It's one thing. Relationship.

Relationship with either a woman, relationship with a man. And when I say relationship with man, that's the bonding.

Okay. But it's.

I don't even have the word to describe how deep that goes between the guys that have served in the military and all our military cops that same way. First responders, the same way.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

And we have to remember when you.

[Si Robertson]

Face death every day, that's what you deal with. Okay.

You know that. That, you know, you'll never. You'll never have anything that will top that. As far as connection or bonding, we.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

Have to remember to their families, their spouses, and their children.

A lot of times there's not a group for us. For us to go to.

Which is important for us, too, because I don't understand what he went through. I. I don't know.

[Si Robertson]

But no one can.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

I can speak with another spouse who understands what I'm going through, and I can possibly understand what she's going through. And then the kids, they move around all the time, so they don't have this home base where they have friends that they've known since they were itty bitty or their friends now don't understand what it's like to move around from place to place to place or to have a dad or a mom that deals with it.

[Si Robertson]

It's like going back to the horses. It's like every time you bring in a new horse.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

Yep.

[Si Robertson]

You've got to start the process all over again.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

Yep.

[Si Robertson]

But back. Back to the veterans Watching the black ops, the elite, I call them. They're our elite warriors. When they meet each other, their eyes. When their eyes meet, you can tell there's a connection there. And it actually, I envy it. Okay. That they've got a bond that's that strong. Okay. Because, hey, you could call that man at any time of the night or day.

And trust me when I tell you that he's going to get on the plane and come. Yep. Okay. Because, hey, these are brothers, comrades. Okay. It's about to bring me to tears because we've, you know, we've lost so many.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

If you're going through that, there's help. There's always help. And it's.

[Si Robertson]

Yeah. If you get nothing else from this podcast, if you're hurting, okay, please get help.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

It's taking.

[Si Robertson]

Okay. It's there for you. Okay. And I know on some of the things you've done, it would be hard to open up to a total stranger that cannot comprehend what you've went through.

[Scott Robertson]

Well, and the cool thing about 20, 25, there's a bunch of different avenues for help now, right? Like, y' all are talking about horses. There's, you know, dogs. There's dogs, there's hunting, there's fishing, there's.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

Yep.

[Scott Robertson]

Crocheting. I mean, you know, I mean, you can name it and there's a group for it now. So, you know, we do a lot of work with that. Taking folks hunting and, you know, just. And whatever. If you have a heart, maybe you didn't serve, but you have a heart to give back, to serve. Whatever you're passionate about, you can start. You can start there by. By bringing those people in and teaching them about whatever it is, you know, for markets, horses for Scott. He's learning about horses, Right. And then hopefully to use it. But, I mean, the. The world is your oyster.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Maybe a paragon falcon eventually.

[Scott Robertson]

Hey, now, I could go.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

I'm telling you, falconry.

[Scott Robertson]

I think that's really cool. Yeah.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

I got a dog and I got a horse.

[Scott Robertson]

Way cheaper. It's way cheaper than shells.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

He's just saying that. I told him no.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Oh, she keeps telling me that.

[Si Robertson]

It's actually what you're into, to me is. Is. Is not only are you learning. Okay. And bonding with something.

Okay. But it's like you said, a lot of that stuff is so cool to be part of.

[Scott Robertson]

That's why he said. Well, I mean, it goes back and listen to it.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

It goes back to what he told me when I was younger. Right. He said if you do what you Love, you'll never work a day in your life.

[Scott Robertson]

And look at this guy.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

That. That and God. And God's hand put me through the military and that.

[Si Robertson]

And there's one other to lead folks with. Okay. If you don't have a relationship with a creator.

[Scott Robertson]

Amen.

[Si Robertson]

And that would be the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

[Scott Robertson]

Amen.

[Si Robertson]

What is wrong with you?

[Scott Robertson]

Amen.

[Si Robertson]

Get you one. And started today with them.

[Scott Robertson]

And I think we're. We're going. Thank y' all so much for coming in. Scott and Marsha, we're going to close it out. And I think the overall theme of the day, you know, is the be still. And there's. I don't know how many iterations for in there, but one of my favorites is Psalms 37. 7, where, you know, it's one of the Psalms of David. And he just says, be still before the Lord and wait patiently for him. Do not fret. When people succeed in their ways, when they carry out their wicked schemes. So, you know, there's. There's a lot, like we look at people and in the human nature is to get jealous or get angry, you know, because people, they're doing it wrong or they're doing this.

[Si Robertson]

And look at how well off they are.

[Scott Robertson]

Yeah.

[Si Robertson]

They got everything, but they really don't. Have.

[Scott Robertson]

They got nothing.

[Si Robertson]

So I really don't. When you get right down to it, if you start dissecting them.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Yeah.

[Si Robertson]

And get to know them, they're envious of you. If you've got a relationship with a creator.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

Money, Money and things.

[Si Robertson]

I've known millionaires in the military and in my short life that I have on here. And I know for a fact money can't make you happy.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

Nope.

[Si Robertson]

Because I knew a guy that was filthy rich. He would never run out of money. And that was the most miserable human being I ever was around. I actually hated to be around him.

[Marsha's Husband (possibly Scott or another family member)]

Everybody trying to fill that hole that Jesus filled.

[Si Robertson]

That's it. And only Jesus can fill it.

[Scott Robertson]

Amen.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

Amen.

[Scott Robertson]

All right, well, thank you all so much.

[Marsha's Daughter or Family Member]

Thank you for having us.

[Si Robertson]

This was a good time one. Guys, we're out.

[Scott Robertson]

Duck call room out.