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Nancy Dufresne
Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message.
Joel
We'll have you turn this morning to the fourth chapter of First Peter, First Peter, chapter four. And we all believe in God for the highest flow, not just any flow, but, you know, the best for this, for this day, praise God. There's a verse that I just seem to be coming back to it and at least using it for a springboard in all these meetings. And it's the seventh verse in First Peter chapter four, and it says this. But the end of all things is at hand. Be therefore sober and watch unto prayer. That's quite a verse. You know, when I first read that verse, I remember reading it, and somehow or another I heard it differently than what I see now that it actually says. When I first heard that, I heard it this way. The end of the world is coming, Be afraid and pray that it doesn't happen.
Co-speaker
Any of you here, when you heard that verse, you kind of got that.
Joel
How do you get that out of that verse? That's not in there, huh? Just natural thinking, you know?
Co-speaker
And no, it doesn't say that.
Joel
It doesn't say the end of the.
Co-speaker
World'S coming, be afraid, but it does.
Joel
Say the end of all things is at hand. How many know that we're in an age called the Church age, and we're in a time or a season called the End Times. We're in the end times. We're in the. We're at the end of the church age. And it's a significant time. It's a. It's a special time. And the Bible says something about, or says a lot of things rather about these end times, these last days. Guys, you and I are. We're not just here on Earth randomly. We're not here. You're. You're hand picked. You're hand picked. You're part of the End Time army that God has handpicked to help propel his plan forward and get some things done. You and the rest of the body of Christ. We're alive at a special time. You could have existed in the 1700s or the 1800s or some of you weren't even here for the 1900s.
Co-speaker
But you're here. God put you here.
Joel
The end of it. You're an End Time Agent. I said you're an End Time Agent. You're here at a special time. You're on Earth for a special time. And it's to help facilitate a plan. God has a plan. In the end times, they're not just random times. But he's got a plan, and you and I have a part in that plan. You don't have to be called to stand behind a pulpit. You to have a part in God's plan. Everybody has a part in God's plan.
Co-speaker
Amen.
Joel
And you're only. You can do your part. Amen. But you have to be equipped to do your part. You're not going to fulfill the plan of God automatically. Amen. You have to be equipped. And that's. That's part of what God has. Has us doing here in these morning sessions, particularly getting some equipment. We're getting some skill, we're sharpening some things.
Congregation Member 1
Hallelujah.
Joel
Because the end of all things is at hand. Is at hand. What's it mean when something's at hand? You know, the Bible says the coming of the Lord is at hand. What's that mean? Well, you put your hand out in front of you. How far is that, huh? Come on, y'.
Congregation Member 2
All.
Joel
Do it. Do see, if you put your hand out in front of you, it's right. It's in your face.
Co-speaker
It's right there.
Joel
It's upon us. If it's at hand, it's not far.
Co-speaker
Off the end of all things.
Joel
We're in it, y'. All.
Co-speaker
We're in it. We're right here. We're right here.
Joel
And things are happening and things are.
Co-speaker
Popping and God needs you.
Joel
Remember those Uncle Sam posters.
Co-speaker
Where he points at you?
Joel
What did those posters say?
Co-speaker
We want you or Uncle Sam wants you?
Joel
I tell you what.
Co-speaker
Uncle Jesus wants you. He wants you, but he wants you equipped.
Joel
And we see right here in this verse that one of the most essential pieces of your part in this plan is that you do what it says in verse eight. I'm sorry. In the end of verse seven. The end of all things is at hand. So what do we do? Hide? Huh? Hide out? Buy enough bottled water to. No, I'm sorry. I went back to Y2K there for a. Anybody here?
Co-speaker
You had the storehouse of.
Joel
Huh? Yeah.
Co-speaker
You don't want to admit it, I know, but anybody here?
Joel
You bought all the end time survival kit, y'. All.
Co-speaker
What we're giving you right now is.
Joel
Your end time survival kit. You understand?
Co-speaker
Amen.
Joel
You don't need to buy the astronaut food. We got your kit.
Co-speaker
What is your kit?
Joel
What's your survival kit? What's your rations? Be sober.
Co-speaker
You know what that means?
Joel
Sober is the opposite of what? Drunk. And when a person is drunk, they ain't thinking clear, huh? Their thinking gets off, but they don't know it. And so they think I'm good to drive. I can drive. And you're not. You can't. You're not right.
Co-speaker
And so right thinking.
Joel
Is part of your equipment for the end of this age. And that right thinking enables you to do something and enables you to watch unto prayer. If I could read this verse in the amplified translation. You doing okay? First Peter 4, 7. It says, the end and culmination of all things has now come near. Now listen to this part. Keep sound minded and self restrained and.
Co-speaker
Alert therefore, for the practice of prayer.
Joel
And so if you and I are going to be end time agents, and.
Co-speaker
If we're going to do play our.
Joel
Part, the end times, you have to pray right. And in order to pray right, you have to think right. Amen. Wrong thinking leads to wrong praying. Is there such a thing as wrong praying? Is it possible to. Well, there's such a thing as effective or ineffective prayer. And historically, and when I say historically, you know, it's not like I really have studied this down through history, but at least in my history, you know, 10 years or a little longer that we've been on the scene historically. The body of Christ doesn't pray effectively. By the body of Christ. Maybe I'm not talking about people here in Georgetown, but in Pflugerville and some of the surrounding. Is that how you say it? Yeah, the P is silent.
Co-speaker
You know, like if you were.
Joel
If you were. You ever have to talk on the phone to somebody and they ask you for a code or something and it's got letters and you have to say, you know, A as in apple. You wouldn't say P as in Pflugerville, cause it's silent. I behave here. P.S. and pterodactyl. All right. Anyhow, they others, not you. You understand?
Co-speaker
I know you got it.
Joel
But I'm talking about people historically, they don't pray effectively because they don't think right about prayer. They. They adopt just traditional mindsets, traditional concepts and even the same concepts that lost people have. And that is they think that the purpose of prayer is if we pray hard enough, we can get God to answer. I know you're looking at me because you wouldn't. I know you don't think that, but other people do that the purpose of prayer is for me to get something from God. You might say, is that not right? Not a. Well, not. It's not 100% wrong, but it sure isn't close to 100% right. God didn't give us prayer to try to pry his fingers open, to try to get him to do something for us. Do you know the purpose of faith? I'm going to get us into a ditch here. But the, the purpose of faith is not to try to get God. It's not to get God to do anything. And so really, if you're going to pray effectively before you do anything else, you need to learn some things about who you are, who God is, and you need to learn some things about this phrase that the Bible gives us called in Christ, and understand who you are and what you have and what you can do as a new creature in Christ. Because what you'll find out, what you'll discover is what Ephesians 1:3 says, is that he has blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places. And so we're not praying for God to bless us. And what do most people's prayers contain? Oh, God bless so and so. Oh, God bless so and so. Bless us, Lord, huh? Bless me and my son. My son and his wife. Bless me and my wife. My son, his wife, us four, no more.
Co-speaker
You know what I mean?
Joel
That prayer, you've heard that prayer? Well, okay, that, that's a well intentioned prayer.
Co-speaker
But what do you want God to do?
Joel
I mean, what do you mean when you say bless me, huh? Well, I want him to pour me out a good one. Just pour it out. Well, then you need to scratch out Ephesians 1:3. Huh? Oh, God bless me. Oh, God bless. What does it mean? He has, he has blessed us. I don't mean to get up and cause trouble right away. I usually take, you know, I usually wait till the second day, huh? He has blessed it. He has blessed us. He has blessed us with all. With all. He has blessed us with all spiritual blessing. Or we could say spiritually accessed blessings in heavenly places. Now, heavenly places, the Bible refers to three different heavens. One would be just the atmosphere above us. Ain't talking about that one. There ain't no blessings in the air. I mean, air is a blessing, but he's not talking about the blessings of the natural clouds. The second heaven is the home of principalities, powers, wicked spirits and high places. There's, that's not the blessings you, he's not going to bless you with a wicked spirit. But the third heaven, where Paul was caught up to, that's the, that's what we call heaven. That's the abode of God. Amen. Where the streets are paved with gold and where you don't breathe oxygen, you breathe glory. It's that heavenly place that God is drawn upon to place all of his blessings in our lives. So prayer, you know, he's done all that for us. He's given us all that. Yet people are asking and hoping really for just a fraction of the abundance of blessing that he's already put in our life. So the renewed mind, the sober mind, the sober mind, the right thinking mind, understands that we have all things, like second Peter 1:3, all things that pertain unto life and godliness through the knowledge of him who's called us to glory and virtue. If we know some things, we'll pray differently. We'll pray differently. I don't ask the Lord every day, God bless my wife, huh? I mean, sometimes they'll say, I'll bless her, Lord. Help her, Jesus.
Co-speaker
Help her, Jesus.
Joel
You know what I'm saying? That's not a. That's not a renewed mind prayer, though.
Co-speaker
No, but what we can.
Joel
What we can pray is those fear, those prayers, similar to the. To the prayers that Paul prayed for the church at Ephesus, you know, over there. He said, I pray really essentially, that you might know, huh, that the eyes of your understanding would be enlightened, that you might know the hope of his calling, his rich, glorious inheritance in the saints and the exceeding greatness of his power to us who believe. Amen. According to the working of his might that he wrought in Christ when He.
Co-speaker
Raised him from the dead, set him.
Joel
At his right hand far above all.
Co-speaker
Principality and power, might and dominion. Amen. And they gave him the name above every. I mean, just all of it.
Joel
All of it.
Co-speaker
Put all things under his feet.
Joel
That you might know that now there's a prayer.
Co-speaker
There's a prayer that's some right praying that you.
Joel
That folk might know and that folk might see what's already been done. Brother Hagin used to teach a lot. And all of you, I think you know, when I say Brother Hagin, who we're talking about Brother Kenneth Hagin. And we were blessed to go to his Bible school. And then also I got to travel with him for seven years on all his meetings as part of his team. And I heard him minister on prayer a lot, A whole lot. He ministered on prayer a lot. And he'd always go kind of down some of these same roads because he ran into the same thing that we're asking God to do what he's already done. And so he would try to help people because he'd hear people pray and they'd pray oh, God, heal so and so and heal so and so and heal so and so. And we understand the intent of that is a good intent. But what you're really praying is, Lord, lead him into the healing that's already theirs.
Co-speaker
Lead him into it.
Joel
You see what I'm saying?
Co-speaker
That's really what we're praying. We're not praying. Lord, do it.
Joel
Because he's done it. He's done it. When he put sin on Jesus, he puts glory to God. He puts sickness and disease on him, who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree that we being dead to sin, should live to righteousness by whose wounds, by.
Co-speaker
Whose stripes you were healed. Glory to God. Did you hear that? I didn't write that. That's in the Bible. That's in the Bible. By his wounds, you were. By what he, by what he bore, you're free. Free from it.
Joel
Amen.
Co-speaker
Amen. And so when we pray, instead of.
Joel
Praying, Lord, heal so and so. Well, what we want to do is, Lord, help lead them in, help show them that which is already there. Open the eyes of their understanding, help them see, help them know. And so much of the time, when you receive the knowledge of what's already been done, there ain't no praying that has to happen. God doesn't have to do anything, doesn't have to lay one more wound on Jesus, right? Doesn't have to put one more nail in him. It's already been done. So the things concerning our redemption and the things that we most often pray for have already been accomplished. And so where most believers start out in prayer is these what I call self focused prayers, or I like to call them bedtime prayers. Because, you know, when you got put to bed at night, what was the bedtime prayer that you'd always pray? Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray the Lord my soul to keep like he's going to for the first time ever. Forget, forget to do that this night, huh? And if I should, I mean, just what an unscriptural prayer, right?
Co-speaker
If I should die before I wake.
Joel
I pray the Lord my soul to take. Honey, it's all automatic.
Co-speaker
If you're born again, you don't have to pray for the keeping. You don't have to pray for the taking. It's part of the package.
Joel
It's part of the package.
Co-speaker
But what are we praying out now?
Joel
That's a bedtime prayer. That's a bedtime prayer, right? And it's all about me and my soul and my stuff and my things. And me, me, me. I pray, huh? If I should die. Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Right? And that is really the prayer life of many believers. It's just self focused. But we want to move from bedtime prayers to what I like to call end time prayers. Print the T shirts, sold out of the other ones.
Co-speaker
How many would buy the bedtime prayers.
Joel
To end time prayers? T shirt? Me and my wife.
Co-speaker
Anyhow, that's all.
Joel
Amen.
Co-speaker
We need to go from bedtime praying.
Joel
Where it's focused on you and your needs to end time prayers that are focused on God and his plan. They're plan focused rather than need focused, you might say. But I have needs. We have answers.
Co-speaker
We have answers.
Joel
Amen. The answer most of the time. I know this might not be what you wanted to hear this morning. I'm not sure what you wanted to hear this morning.
Co-speaker
But most of the time, the answer to your need.
Joel
Find out what God has already done about your need and don't dismiss it, but believe in it.
Co-speaker
Feed on it, meditate on it, get it in you.
Joel
Brother Hagin was dealing with a person one time needing healing, and they were so focused on getting God to do it for them that Brother Hagin, he had this great way of like Pastor was speaking about last night, giving you enough rope to hang yourself, you know what I'm saying? And he said to this person, he said, now, I'm not saying the Bible says this.
Co-speaker
But if it did say he, but if it said that he already took your infirmities and bare your.
Joel
Sicknesses, would that bless you? She said, oh, yeah, well, that would be great if that was the case. And so he said, turn to Matthew 8:17. Is it verse 17? Something, something like that. Matthew 8:17. And she turned and read it and.
Co-speaker
She got so excited, she said, did you know?
Congregation Member 3
Did you know?
Co-speaker
Did you know that he. He took our infirmities, he bear our sickness.
Joel
And see, when you hear it once, it sounds good. When you hear it twice, it sounds better. But when you hear it over and over and over and over again, it gets to the point where it thrills you. And you don't sit there with the look on your face like, yeah, I know that, get to something else. That's a sure sign that you don't know it. Like you should know it.
Congregation Member 1
Hallelujah.
Joel
And so we want to build into us what the word says is already ours. And it will change your prayer life. It will change your prayer life. You'll stop asking and, yeah, thank you and begging for what's already been given, what's already been accomplished. Amen. I'm just led to hang on to this for just a second longer if we can. Because you can say things, and I think you got it. But dealing with sickness and disease. I know there's been times in my own life I've gone to bed at night and felt like I might die before I wake, like we was talking about a second ago.
Co-speaker
Anybody you've ever been there?
Joel
I mean, we won't have a testimony.
Co-speaker
Line or anything, but no, you might feel. You feel like I might die before I wake. But instead of praying the Lord my.
Joel
Soul to take, I started just going over that verse. I was just quoting Matthew 8, 17. Would you turn there? Amen. Hadn't planned on this, but it just seems like I'm supposed to stay here for a moment. Glory to God. We could start in the 16th verse. And it says this. When the evening or the evening was come, they brought to him, talking about Jesus, many that were possessed with devils. That's a scene. Could you imagine that scene? Get a bunch of demon possessed people together, huh? A gathering of demons. Because one thing about demons is they like to show out.
Co-speaker
So then you get a bunch of.
Joel
Demon possessed people together. They all want to outdo each other. So sure, bring them all.
Co-speaker
Just bring everyone you can find.
Joel
And he cast out the spirits with his word.
Co-speaker
And he did what he healed all.
Joel
That were sick that it might be fulfilled. Which was spoken by Esaias or Isaiah, the prophet, saying himself, took our infirmities and bare our sickness. Praise the Lord. Now if you read that in Isaiah 53, it actually, in the King James, it actually says, surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows. Right? And there's been, there's been no small argument over the years over does that really mean sickness and disease? Because, you know, it's just. We want to translate it. Griefs and sorrows. And even when they were coming out with another translation, the translators, it's recorded that they even fussed over that passage in Isaiah, saying, well, we don't want to translate it. Sickness and pain. Even though in the Hebrew, that's how that word, that's how those words are always translated. And they even had a fuss over.
Co-speaker
It and said, we don't want to translate it like that because that's going.
Joel
To give these healing people, you know. So they decided to put it in the margin, to put a little number in it, put it in the margin. But, you know, you don't need to.
Co-speaker
Know Greek Or Hebrew.
Joel
You just need to know Matthew, because.
Co-speaker
Matthew tells us what Isaiah meant. He tells us what Isaiah was saying. Himself took our infirmities and bare our sickness.
Joel
And I started to say, there's been times where I've laid down to go to bed, felt like I might die.
Co-speaker
Before I wake up.
Joel
And I mean literally, not recently, but I mean in years past. I just can think of sometimes. And I just got ahold of that and just started saying it. Himself took my infirmities and bear my sickness. You know, it didn't say here that he. It didn't say in Matthew that he took their sickness, didn't just apply it to that group right then and say that that was the only fulfillment of it.
Co-speaker
No, he took ours. Doesn't it say that he took ours?
Joel
Glory to God.
Co-speaker
He took ours. If he took ours, he took mine. He took mine. He took my infirmity. What's infirmity? It means the inability to produce results.
Joel
It means weakness.
Co-speaker
He took my weakness and he bare my sickness.
Joel
And I just go. I just went over that not twice, not four times, but just sat there and just said, himself took himself. And I take it word by word, himself.
Co-speaker
What I would do is actually quote.
Joel
It and just emphasize one word each time. Himself took my infirmities and bear my sickness.
Co-speaker
Himself took.
Joel
Took. And I think about what that meant for him to take it. Himself took my infirmities, bear my sickness. Himself took our infirmities and bear our sickness.
Co-speaker
Himself took my weakness.
Joel
That was my problem. I couldn't move, couldn't get out of bed.
Co-speaker
Himself took my infirmities, my weakness. Himself took my weakness and bore.
Joel
Oh, now. Now we're talking. Now I'm thinking about First Peter 2:24. Who himself bore. Huh?
Co-speaker
He was the beast of burden.
Joel
You know what I mean? That's what it means, bore.
Co-speaker
Something was placed on him.
Joel
The Bible, Isaiah says, the Lord has.
Co-speaker
Placed upon him the iniquity of us all.
Joel
Well, the iniquity, the sin is not where it stopped. Everything that sin produced, everything that was included with sin, was included in redemption.
Co-speaker
Sickness and disease was included in it. Amen.
Joel
He bore our sickness.
Co-speaker
He bore our sick. And I began to see what I.
Joel
Was going through upon him.
Co-speaker
I saw it upon him.
Joel
And when I saw it upon him, I didn't see it on me. And I saw.
Co-speaker
I saw redemption.
Joel
And I saw him.
Co-speaker
I saw him bearing.
Joel
As you understand, as the soldiers were beating him. The Bible says with his wounds we were healed. As. As the soldiers were beating him with those wounds that was what was going on in the natural. But you can't just beat somebody in the natural and cause a spiritual effect to take place, you understand? God was placing something on him spiritually as though is that event was happening naturally. Amen. As that whip was being whipped, God was putting the curse of sickness on Jesus. Amen. The Lord, not just the soldiers, The Lord laid upon him the iniquity of us all. Spirit.
Co-speaker
He died physically.
Joel
He also died on the inside. That's why he said for the first time ever, My God, my God.
Congregation Member 2
Why.
Joel
Have you forsaken me? He had never experienced that before. He experienced spiritual separation from his Father for the first time ever. For us. For us, for us. And so. And so, because he was spiritually separated from God when he died, he couldn't go up. He had to go down. He had to go down. He had to go down to the regions of the damned, to hell. And I saw, as I'm sitting here meditating on this verse, I saw him take my sickness, take my disease, and I saw him go down. Hell with it. And then I saw him come up without it.
Co-speaker
Oh, baby, listen now. He went down with it. He didn't come up with it. He didn't come up with any of it. Glory to God. And when he came up, I saw him down there.
Joel
And then I saw him made alive down there.
Co-speaker
And the Bible says I've been made.
Joel
Alive together with him.
Co-speaker
And then I saw him come up out of the grave and be resurrected. And the Bible says I've been raised together with him. And then I saw him go and ascend to heaven. And the Bible says that I've been made to sit together with him in heavenly places.
Joel
Praise God.
Co-speaker
We were buried with him. Amen. We were buried with him. We came up. We were made alive with him. We came up, we were resurrected with him, and we ascended with him. And I was sitting there, and all of a sudden I realized he took it. And this came up.
Joel
As I was meditating on this verse and seeing all that this came up in me.
Co-speaker
He took it. He bore it.
Joel
I've got it.
Co-speaker
You want to try that?
Joel
Try it.
Co-speaker
He took it. He bore it.
Joel
I've got it. Now.
Co-speaker
It probably won't do for you what.
Joel
It did for me unless you do what I did. Meaning unless you lay there and meditate on it to the point that you start to see it on the inside. And this is not a preacher thing, y'. All.
Co-speaker
I was not in a suit when I did this.
Joel
Huh?
Co-speaker
I wasn't in a Suit. I was in the sack.
Joel
I was laid out.
Co-speaker
I was laid out in bed. And I saw all this going on.
Joel
And at some point, while I'm seeing.
Co-speaker
Him take it and come up without it, and when I'm seeing me free.
Joel
At some point, those symptoms went wherever they go, and I experienced the fulfillment of what Isaiah said. But I saw it and so I.
Co-speaker
Started to say, he took it, he bore it.
Joel
I got it. Oh, come on, say it with me.
Co-speaker
Come on now, say.
Joel
Say it like you like it.
Co-speaker
He took it, he bore it. I've got it. You know what I mean by I've got it? And he took it. He took what? He took the sickness. He bore the sickness.
Joel
And what do I have?
Co-speaker
I have. I got it. I got it, I got it. And if you'd get it, you could have it. I said if you get it, you could have it. He took it. Come on now, say it again. He took it. He bore it. I've got it. Oh, come on. He took it.
Congregation Member 3
He bore it.
Co-speaker
I've got it. And guess what? I never did pray for healing. But what did I get?
Joel
The healing.
Co-speaker
Well, why didn't I pray for?
Joel
I didn't. I didn't call and have my wife pray for me, huh? I didn't call the prayer line on tv. I don't know if they still have those or not. They used to coming up.
Co-speaker
They'd always have the prayer line.
Joel
And they say, our prayer team is.
Co-speaker
Waiting to pray for your needs.
Joel
Huh? Actually, I had done that before and I didn't get it. But when I found out that he.
Co-speaker
Took it and he bore it, I got it. When I got it, I got it. I said when I got it. You know what I mean? When I got it in here, when I got it here, that's when I got it. I'm not diminishing. Well, yeah, I am a little bit. I don't mean to diminish the place of praying for others.
Joel
There's a time for that. The Bible tells, talks about that.
Co-speaker
But what's most effective. What's, what's. What's going to get you through the last days? What's going to get you. End time prayers. End time prayers.
Joel
Amen. And so that wasn't anything I had planned, but I believe it would help. Not just somebody, but a whole lot of somebody's. Amen. People that are here, people that are watching. One more time. Come on now.
Co-speaker
He took it, he bore it.
Joel
I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. Praise God.
Co-speaker
Some folk are getting it and getting it.
Joel
Do you know that these things aren't difficult, but sometimes we make them difficult. And the mindset that thinks, well, I've got to pray more to get God to do something. Can you see how that's just not exactly sound. Now, like I said, it's not 100% wrong, because praying more will accomplish things if you do it scripturally, if you do it effectively. Hallelujah.
Co-speaker
Which.
Joel
You got something now. Okay. My wife, like pastor said, she has an open invitation to jump up and jump in and sometimes take over and sit me down. That's. That's according to plan. You understand that? But God's plan. And so we just. We try to do that.
Co-speaker
Hallelujah.
Joel
So be sober for the purpose of prayer. Now, the end times require appropriate prayer. They require effective prayer. And there are things. Thank you, Father. There are things that God desires to do in our day. There are things that must come to pass in our time, and they won't come to pass without the right kind of prayer. Now, there's an assignment, particular assignment God's laid on my heart for this week that I know we're going to get to. I don't know that it's going to happen at this point today, but that's all right. But do turn real quick to the first chapter of the book of Philippians. We can at least get this introduced. And then we're going to pray in these sessions, too. Amen. Oh, hallelujah. I'm so excited about some of what God has dealt with us to get to, but we're just laying a little bit of foundation here for us today. Bless him. Bless him. I'm so. I get excited, you know what I mean? And it's like.
Co-speaker
Hallelujah.
Joel
In Philippians, chapter one, Paul here was in prison. Philippians, Ephesians, Colossians, Philemon were all written from prison. Amen. Aren't you glad he went to prison so we could have those books? He's probably thinking, I could have written them just as good in a resort. But anyhow.
Co-speaker
He'S in prison.
Joel
And he said this in verse, let's see, verse 19. He said, I know that this now when he says this, that's why I told you he's in prison. His. His incarceration is one of the things he's talking about. But he says, I know that this shall turn. This shall turn anything in your life, you ever need it to turn. It's not going the right direction, Hans. Going the wrong direction. You need it to go. You need it to turn. And you've been trying to turn it. You're looking at a seasoned expert in trying to turn things myself. Work harder, work faster, try to do it stronger, whatever it is. I got to get this thing turned. And if you're bright, eventually you come up to the point saying, I ain't getting this thing turned on my own. Huh? This ain't happening in the flesh. If it's going to turn, we're going to need some help. And so Paul's situation, it looked like it wasn't turning. You understand, back in that day, when they put you in prison, it was not like, okay, we're going to give you time served and then. And then put you on probation. Yeah. Parole and probation and all that. A little bit different.
Co-speaker
It wasn't.
Joel
They weren't concerned, like, with the fairness in their mind. If you were a criminal, you had no rights. And even if we called you a criminal, you don't deserve it. There's no, like, guaranteed a trial by jury. None of that. None of that. And so usually you either died there or they brought you out to kill you.
Congregation Member 4
Yes.
Co-speaker
And so, like, if they come.
Joel
If they come today, if you're in jail and they come and unlock the door and say, gather your stuff, you're happy. Yeah.
Co-speaker
But there you might have stopped and said, well, why?
Joel
What are we going to do? I might want to stay because they.
Co-speaker
Might be bringing you out to, you.
Joel
Know, sorry, we need your space. We have somebody else that needs this too. So they just get rid of you, you know? But Paul's.
Co-speaker
Paul said this. He said, I rejoice. I rejoice. And verse 19 says, I will rejoice, for I know that this shall turn not to my destruction, not to my demise, but turn to my salvation. The word salvation, guys, in the Greek, it means deliverance.
Joel
It means.
Co-speaker
And it includes everything you could be delivered from. It includes healing. It includes blessing. Amen. It's a big word. When you see salvation, you can put whatever need you have in there. This shall turn to my rescue. This shall turn to my deliverance.
Joel
How? How?
Co-speaker
Through your prayer.
Joel
Not bedtime prayers, huh? If that.
Co-speaker
I want to know if bedtime prayers.
Joel
Could have got it done. Paul would have gotten that done. But he said, this is something bigger than what I can just take care of myself. It's going to require. It's going to require the participation of the body. Amen. And this thing can get turned. This thing can get turned. You know, the body of Christ over the last couple decades, sad to say, has not just been really going the right direction as a whole, you might know. I won't go into detail. I'm just. Just trust me, trust me. We haven't been making the kind of progress we should have been making the past couple decades. But if we get everybody on the same page, or at least. Or at least a group of us, or at least the ones here, if.
Co-speaker
We get us on the. If we get us on the same.
Joel
Page, there's some things.
Co-speaker
There's some things that we'll get turned. And notice what it says, though. This is going to turn to my deliverance through your prayer and the supply of the spirit of Jesus Christ.
Joel
Could I say it this way, friends? This thing's going to turn around because.
Co-speaker
Of your prayer and the resulting spiritual.
Joel
Supply.
Co-speaker
Their prayer, the right kind of.
Joel
Prayer, end time prayers, not bedtime prayers.
Co-speaker
The right kind of prayer creates a.
Joel
Spiritual supply that turns things. I'll try it over here.
Co-speaker
The right kind of prayer, the right kind of prayer creates. In fact, I say it this way. Generates, generates, will generate a spirit, spiritual.
Joel
Supply that can turn things.
Co-speaker
Turn things.
Joel
That couldn't be turned around otherwise.
Congregation Member 3
Amen.
Joel
And so, talking about what is the kind of effective prayer, the kind of prayer that turns things around, the kind of prayer that brings a spiritual supply on the scene, Hallelujah. That's what's needed in the end times. That's what's needed in our times, huh? Is a supply of spiritual supply created by prayer, generated through prayer. Now, I don't know that excites you or not, but if that doesn't, then go to James the fifth chapter, because perhaps this will, you know, we'll find what scratches you in that.
Co-speaker
Hallelujah.
Joel
Just say that. James, chapter five. I know you're not wearing out the second day of the crusade. Y' all were loaded last night. James, chapter five. Here's another real similar verse talking about what constitutes effective prayer. What's effective? We're not trying to get God to send something, but we are working with him to generate something. James, chapter five. And would it be. Let's see, this. The 16th verse says, Confess your faults one to another and pray one for another that you may be healed. And you might say, brother Joel, I thought you taught us not to do that. Well, it's not like you think, huh? It's not praying. Oh, God, heal so and so. Oh, God, heal her. No, no, no, no. And that's. You know, actually, one of the reasons we do get into error on prayer is we base our prayer life on The Old Testament rather than the New Testament. In the Old Testament, there is actually recorded where Moses came to the Lord because his sister Miriam was afflicted with leprosy. You know what leprosy was? Old Testament acne. There's some bad stuff, man. It was a skin disease. And fatal. Completely fatal. Mostly fatal.
Co-speaker
Could be fatal if you let it go long enough.
Joel
Be fatal. Anyhow, she gets leprosy. And Moses says to the Lord, O.
Co-speaker
Lord, heal her now.
Joel
And the Lord did. But in the New Testament, we don't pray. Heal her now. In the New Testament, we know that.
Co-speaker
She is now healed in the Old Testament.
Joel
Lord.
Co-speaker
Healer, healer. In the New Testament, by his wounds you have been. But it does say here. So why does it say here, pray.
Joel
One for another that you may be healed?
Co-speaker
Well, that's true, but just not the way we think it's true.
Joel
Amen.
Co-speaker
Pray for one another.
Joel
How? Well, it goes on to say the effectual. That means effective, fervent prayer. If there's effective prayer, what else do we know?
Co-speaker
There could be ineffective.
Joel
Not all prayer is effective prayer. I saw a bumper sticker yesterday somewhere here in town, day before, maybe whenever we landed, and it said, prayer is the most important thing. It's on the bumper sticker. And I thought to myself, well, not the wrong kind.
Co-speaker
It is possible to spin your wheels in prayer.
Joel
Meaning it's possible to pray ineffectively. How many? Here you have all kinds of extra time to do something ineffectively. Huh? To where? It doesn't matter if you're effective or ineffective. Doesn't matter as long as we just do it.
Co-speaker
You know what I mean?
Joel
And that's the mindset. Sometimes it's like, well, just pray, just pray, just pray, just pray, just pray.
Co-speaker
We just gotta pray.
Joel
We just need to pray. That's all we need to do. It's gotten so bad, there's nothing left to do but pray. Why don't you start there?
Co-speaker
If you started with. If you started with the right kind of prayer, it might not get so bad. To where there's nothing left to do but pray. It's just a thought, you know, it's just a thought. Perhaps so there is. So this talks about effective prayer. The effectual, fervent prayer of a righteous.
Joel
Man avails much the amplified. You've probably heard it, but I'm going to read it to you because it's so good. I won't read the first part of it, but the last part says, the earnest, heartfelt, continued prayer of a righteous man makes tremendous power available. Dynamic in its action, that dynamic means creative power.
Co-speaker
The prayer of a righteous person has.
Joel
Great power, brings great power on the scene. Effective prayer, Effective prayer, same as what we just looked at, brings a supply of the spirit, generates a supply of the spirit, makes tremendous power available. And so there is a kind of prayer. How do you pray for one another that you may be healed? Make this power available. Amen. Do you know that's what I did when I sat there in bed?
Co-speaker
I wasn't praying in the sense of.
Joel
Asking, God, do something, do something, do something.
Co-speaker
Come on.
Joel
I have prayed that way. Haven't you?
Co-speaker
Oh, God, God, heal me now. Heal me now.
Joel
Heal me now because I need it.
Co-speaker
Now because I might die before I awake.
Joel
Come on now.
Co-speaker
I need it now. I need it now. God, God, what's taking so long? I need it now. What did I need?
Joel
The revelation that I am now healed.
Co-speaker
I'm now healed. That's what we need.
Joel
But anyhow, as I sat there and.
Co-speaker
Meditated on the word, what did I do?
Joel
I kept meditating on it, and all of a sudden, something's generating on the inside of me. Now, I wasn't praying per se in the sense of asking, but what was I doing? I was partaking. I was. I was fellowshipping with what God had said, which is not too different than prayer. And as I did that, yeah, I was hearing his answer as I did that. All of a sudden, when that revelation exploded on me, there was power there. It's like the generator had, you know, the green light came on, like you got the full supply. Go ahead, push, push play. And I mean, just like a rocket ship of power just exploded on the inside of me. Praise the Lord. The effectual, fervent prayer of a righteous man makes tremendous power available. Paul said it this way. He said, through your prayers, this is going to turn to my deliverance through your prayers and. And the resulting spiritual supply. And so one thing we can do in praying one for another is make that help, make that supply available for them. Because not all know how to do what I did on the bed there and tap into that power just on their own. Amen. And we can help in that. Amen.
Co-speaker
Well, are you depressed?
Joel
I mean, are you blessed this morning?
Co-speaker
Anything you can fix?
Joel
No. Praise the Lord. We're going to just call it right there, okay for now, but we're going to pray some and we're going to do this now. There's different ways to make this power available. I told you one way. Just meditating on what God has said. You Know, I mean, that. That did it for me. But the right kind of prayer will create a spiritual supply. Amen. And there's more we'll say about this in the coming morning, so. So be sure not to miss one. But one of the ways, and not the only way, but one of the ways that. That you can pray and bring a spiritual supply on the scene is when we pray other tongues. Amen. And that. That, honest to God, that is like. That is like tapping into it. That's like hooking up to a generator. Praise the Lord. So we might do some of that if we can. Amen. So come on, dog, get your microphone. Come up. We're just going to pray together. Are you good to do that? Say, how long is it going to take? I don't know. Typically, not too bad. Okay, probably. All right. And we're just going to follow God. Amen. Father. Thank. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, how we appreciate you. How we thank you for your word. How we thank you for the spirit that indwells and helps and teaches us. Thank you, Master. Thank you. Thank you for your plan, for our day. Thank you for the last days, for the end times, for that which is coming to pass in our times. That which you've ordained, that which you desire. Thank you. We say it all comes to pass. It all comes to pass. It all comes to pass.
Co-speaker
We believe you for it.
Joel
We say it so.
Co-speaker
And we endeavor to cooperate with you with your plan.
Congregation Member 1
Hallelujah.
Joel
And we thank you, spirit of God. Help us. Help us. Follow and flow.
Congregation Member 2
Growing, growing.
Congregation Member 4
And the message. Clarity, clarity.
Joel
Mandarin, mandarin.
Co-speaker
Mandarin, Chicano, mocostica day.
Joel
Money. Bless you, Father.
Congregation Member 2
Thank you for the miracles.
Co-speaker
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Congregation Member 2
Thank.
Joel
You for the miracle.
Congregation Member 2
Thank you. Thank you for the miracles.
Joel
Praise.
Co-speaker
Praise.
Joel
Praise.
Congregation Member 2
Praise.
Congregation Member 3
Praise. Praise.
Joel
Praise. Praise.
Co-speaker
Praise.
Joel
Praise. Praise. Praise.
Congregation Member 2
Waves of healing.
Joel
Yes.
Congregation Member 2
Waves.
Congregation Member 1
Hallelujah.
Joel
Hallelujah.
Congregation Member 2
Hallelujah.
Congregation Member 1
Hallelujah.
Joel
Hallelujah.
Congregation Member 3
Hallelujah.
Joel
Glory.
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Glory.
Congregation Member 3
Glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory.
Congregation Member 2
Hallelujah. We thank you. Thank you.
Joel
Bless you.
Co-speaker
Bless you.
Joel
Bless you.
Co-speaker
Bless you.
Congregation Member 3
Bless you.
Joel
Bless you.
Congregation Member 4
Bless you.
Joel
Bless you.
Co-speaker
Bless you.
Congregation Member 3
Hallelujah.
Congregation Member 2
Hallelujah. Through our hands.
Congregation Member 3
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Joel
Thank you.
Congregation Member 4
Through our hands. Through the body of Christ. Through the body. Thank you, Father, for opening the eyes of our heart that we can see and know the power. The power that the church would rise up and see what belongs to them.
Joel
Yes.
Congregation Member 4
The power of Christ. In the hands. In the hands.
Congregation Member 2
In our hands. In our hands. Thank you for the miracle. Power in our hands. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord, for the power in our hands.
Congregation Member 3
We give you glory.
Congregation Member 2
We give you honor.
Congregation Member 3
Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
Congregation Member 2
Hallelujah.
Congregation Member 1
Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
Congregation Member 3
Thank you.
Congregation Member 2
Thank you.
Congregation Member 1
Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
Congregation Member 2
Hallelujah.
Congregation Member 1
Hallelujah.
Congregation Member 3
Let's lift our voice and give him praise. Lift your voice and give him praise Lift your voice. Give him praise.
Congregation Member 2
The church is the miracle power. Hallelu.
Congregation Member 1
Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
Congregation Member 3
Maybe stand on up and give him praise. Lift your voice. Lift your voice. Lift your voice. Lift your voice.
Congregation Member 1
Hallelujah.
Congregation Member 3
Hallelujah.
Congregation Member 2
Hallelujah.
Congregation Member 3
Thank you, Father. Thank you, master. You're so good, Lord. You're so great, Lord. Oh, we love you.
Congregation Member 2
Thank you, Lord.
Congregation Member 3
Yes, we love you. We praise, we praise. We praise. We praise. We praise, we praise, we praise, we praise. We praise, we praise, we praise We we praise, we praise, we praise, we praise, we praise, we praise, we praise.
Joel
You.
Congregation Member 3
Thank you, Lord we have it now we have it here now it's today no reason to fear we're in the flow Further we'll go I'm going now how about you? Oh, praise you, Praise you Praise you Praise you Praise you Praise you Praise you let's sing Praise you, Praise you, Praise you Praise you Praise you Praise you Come on, lift your voice and sing it real good.
Joel
Come on.
Congregation Member 3
Praise you, Praise you Praise you Praise you Praise you Praise you Praise you Praise you Praise you Praise you Praise you Praise you Praise you Praise you, Praise you now we have it now we have it here we have it now it's today it's today we don't have to fear don't have to fear we have it now we have it now now it's today.
Joel
We have it.
Congregation Member 3
Here we have it here no reason to fear so we'll praise him we'll praise him Praise Him, Praise him Praise him Praise him Praise him Praise him Praise him, Praise him, Praise him, Praise him, Praise him, Praise Him One more time. Sing. We have it now we have it now we have it here now it's today there's no reason to fear we have it now it's today we have it here no reason to fear that's why we sing Praise him, Praise him, Praise him Praise him Praise Him Praise Him Praise Him Raise him Praise him, Praise him Praise Him Praise him Praise him Praise Him Praise him we praise.
Co-speaker
Him.
Nancy Dufresne
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Episode: Bedtime Prayers Vs. End-Time Prayers | Joel Siegel | Georgetown, TX | Monday AM | Miracle Crusade 2021
Date: November 30, 2021
Host: Dufresne Ministries (with Joel Siegel, co-speaker, and congregation participation)
This episode centers on the critical distinction between "bedtime prayers"—self-focused, tradition-driven prayers for personal needs—and "end-time prayers"—plan-focused, effective prayers aligned with God’s purposes for the current era. Minister Joel Siegel teaches that believers today are "End Time Agents," called to go beyond prayers of mere survival, instead learning to pray with spiritual authority and revelation for God's greater plan. The teaching is practical, faith-stirring, and rich with scriptural insight, emphasizing the transformative power of right thinking and right praying, especially in times of global and spiritual significance.
On End Time Purpose:
On Right Thinking:
On Mature Prayer:
On Receiving By Faith:
On Effective Prayer:
On Supply of the Spirit:
Joel Siegel’s message powerfully challenges believers to mature beyond "God, please do it" prayers and step into revelation-based prayer, recognizing what God has already accomplished in Christ. The believer’s role is not to plead for blessings but to operate as an equipped agent in God’s end-time purpose, partnering in prayers that generate spiritual supply and facilitate the move of God in the earth.
The memorable refrain, “He took it. He bore it. I’ve got it.” (32:35), encapsulates the faith posture called for—receiving and enforcing what already belongs to us in Christ.
Recommended for:
Believers hungry for a deeper, more effective prayer life, those seeking to understand their role in God’s present plan, and anyone wanting practical tools to move from fear or lack into the fullness of their redemptive inheritance.