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Dufresne Ministries Podcast

Episode: Bedtime Prayers vs. Endtime Prayers | Joel & Amy Siegel | Tuesday AM | Miracle Crusade 2022
Date: June 6, 2022

Episode Overview

This episode features Pastors Joel and Amy Siegel teaching at the Dufresne Ministries' Miracle Crusade. Their central theme is the difference between "bedtime prayers" (self-focused, routine, immature prayers) and "endtime prayers" (purposeful, plan-focused, and mature prayers necessary for the Church in these end times). Using scripture, personal experience, and humor, they guide listeners to grow in their prayer life—moving from the basics to deeper, scripturally-backed intercession aligned with God's plan for the Church, the release of His power, and the protection and effectiveness of spiritual leaders.

Key Topics & Insights

1. God’s Power is Always Available

• [00:10–04:59] Joel Siegel opens with praise for God’s character and power, emphasizing that “the same power that raised Christ from the dead is flowing in the room if we'll cooperate with Him.”
• He clarifies that God’s power isn’t limited to specific service moments or “special miracle times.” Miracles can happen at any point when believers are expectant and responsive:

  “God doesn't have a bottle labeled ‘special miracle power’... His power will do what power does. What makes it work is what that power is hooked to.” (03:12)

2. Understanding the Times & the Call to Prayer

• [05:01–18:00] Joel Siegel unpacks 1 Peter 4:7, highlighting that believers are in the “end times” and must “be sober and watch unto prayer.”
• He stresses the need for the Church to recognize the times and respond not with fear, but with focus and cooperation in God's ongoing plan.

  “We're in a period of time called the end times. We're not waiting to get to the end times—we're in the end times.” (08:54)

• “Be sober” means having a renewed, scriptural mindset. Not all prayer is effective; intention alone isn’t enough—believers must pray in line with God’s Word and plan.

3. Bedtime Prayers vs. Endtime Prayers

• [18:01–28:50] Joel Siegel contrasts “bedtime prayers” (simple, self-centered prayers like those taught to children, e.g., “Now I lay me down to sleep...”) with “endtime prayers,” which are focused on God’s greater plan.
• He shares personal testimony about immature, fear-based prayers before salvation and the self-focused prayer culture in his early church experience.
• Humorous criticism of traditional prayers:

  “We need to have a prayer burning party... get that God awful serenity prayer... and just light the whole thing up.” (25:55)

• The goal is maturity—moving from self-focus to participating in God’s purposes.

4. The Nature of Effective, Endtime Prayers

• [28:51–41:00] Scripture Exploration & Instruction

  • The plan of God is often referred to as the “mystery” in Paul’s writings (Ephesians 3, 1 Corinthians 14).
  • One way to pray out God’s plan is through praying in tongues (1 Corinthians 14:2):

    “He that speaks in an unknown tongue speaks not unto men, but unto God; for no man understands him; howbeit in the spirit he speaks mysteries.” (Amplified: “secret truths and hidden things not obvious to the understanding”)

  • Effective prayer brings God’s miraculous power from the spiritual into the natural realm (James 5:16):

    “The earnest, heartfelt, continued prayer of a righteous man makes tremendous power available—dynamic in its working.” (James 5:16, Amplified; 37:32)

• On Tangibles in Worship:

  • Joel recounts experiences of perceiving the tangible atmosphere of power and even seeing angelic activity during meetings, emphasizing this is results-oriented, not for show.

5. Three Areas of Endtime Prayers

• [41:00–54:39] Joel & Amy Siegel share the three main focuses for New Testament believers’ prayers in the end times:
  1. God’s Plan: Praying out the divine mysteries, often beyond natural understanding, especially through the Holy Spirit.
  2. God’s Power: Praying for the Church to be saturated with God’s miracle-working power, referencing revival history.
  3. God’s People—Especially Spiritual Leaders:
     • Amy Siegel expands on praying for “the voices of the era,” referencing Isaiah 40 and the role of leaders like John the Baptist in preparing for God’s move.
     • She introduces three “P’s” for leaders: Protection, Power, Purity.

6. Praying for the Voices of the Era

• [44:05] Amy Siegel (attribution to Pastor Nancy Dufresne):

  “Every generation has had men, women that have been raised to the forefront to spearhead what God is doing. And it requires our participation in prayer to bring a supply to those voices.”

• The role of the Church is to “cover” spiritual and civic leaders with prayer—protecting them, praying for boldness and power in proclamation, and for doctrinal and personal purity.

• “All point men get shot at... That’s why we pray for our pastors, those in fivefold ministry. They’re taking the fire of the adversary for us.” (50:01, Amy quoting Dr. Dufresne)

7. New Testament Model of Praying for Boldness and Power

• [54:39–59:43] Amy Siegel examines Acts 4:29–30:

  “Now, Lord, behold their threatenings and grant unto your servants that with all boldness they may speak your word... by stretching forth your hand to heal, that signs and wonders may be done by the name of your holy child Jesus.”

• Cites Kenneth E. Hagin’s revelation: “If you preach my word, I stretch forth my hand [with miracles].”
• Emphasizes the need for the “purity” and accuracy of these voices to prepare the way for God’s glory and for mass miracles among the people.

8. Miracles Flow from the Right Platform

• Amy and Joel connect scriptural and historic moves of God, showing that as the "voice" prepares the way, miracles follow (Isaiah 35:5–8).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joel Siegel:

  “He doesn’t have a bottle labeled miracle working power and then another labeled regular power. God’s power will do what power does.” (03:08)
  “Bedtime prayers are focused on ourselves. Endtime prayers are plan-focused. They’re God-focused—focused on something bigger.” (26:50)
  “We want prayers that are effective, not just well-intentioned.” (16:16)

• Amy Siegel:

  “The voice changed the hearts... Every generation has had voices raised to the forefront—it requires our participation in prayer.” (44:07, 44:45)
  “All point men get shot at... That’s why we pray for our pastor... " (50:01)
  “When the voice makes straight paths for the Glory of God, miracles are there: blind eyes opened, the maimed whole.” (59:30)

Important Timestamps & Segment Guide

| Time | Segment | Highlights | |------------|---------|------------| | 00:10–04:59 | Praise & Opening | Setting the tone—miracles can happen throughout any service, power is always available | | 05:01–18:00 | Scriptural Foundation | 1 Peter 4:7, understanding the end times, need for sober, prayerful living | | 18:01–28:50 | Bedtime vs. Endtime Prayers | Personal stories, critique of common prayer practices, call to maturity | | 28:51–41:00 | Praying God’s Plan & Power | Speaking mysteries, role of praying in tongues, James 5:16 | | 41:01–44:04 | The Three Aspects of Prayer | Plan, Power, People, transition to praying for leaders | | 44:05–54:39 | Praying for Spiritual Leaders | “Voices of the era,” importance of protection, power, purity | | 54:40–59:43 | Acts 4 Model & Miracles | Preaching the Word leads to miracles; focus on purity and power of leaders’ voices | | 59:44–68:57 | Prayer Practicum | Congregational and Spirit-led prayer, vocal manifestations and declarations | | 68:58–82:30 | Worship in Prayer | Extended prophetic intercession, thanksgiving, and declarations for miracles and provision |

Flow and Tone

• The tone is conversational, enthusiastic, and faith-filled, often interspersed with humor (especially when discussing bedtime prayers) and personal testimony.
• There’s high engagement with the congregation, invitations to participate and reflect, and a strong focus on practical application—moving listeners from passivity to active, effective partnership with God through mature prayer.

Final Thoughts

This episode is a call for believers to mature in their prayer life in light of the end times—shifting from self-focused “bedtime prayers” to “endtime prayers” that advance God’s plan, make His power tangible, and undergird those He raises up as spiritual leaders. The Siegel’s teaching is rich in scripture, practical examples, and encouragement for developing a corporate prayer life that truly brings heaven to earth.