Podcast Summary: "Calling Your Miracle"

Dufresne Ministries Podcast – Nancy Dufresne, JTH Crusades 2025 (Collinsville, Oklahoma), Wednesday PM
Date: October 14, 2025

Overview: Theme and Purpose

Theme:
Pastor Nancy Dufresne teaches on "Calling Your Miracle," focusing on how believers can receive miracles and healings by understanding and practicing the "ways of God"—particularly the spiritual principle of "calling those things which be not as though they were." The message aims to equip both ministers and laypeople to walk in God's miracle-working power through faith-filled words, aligning with how God operates by speaking things into existence.

Purpose:

• To illuminate the difference between knowing God's will (what He wants) and knowing His ways (how He brings it to pass)
• To challenge and empower listeners to activate miracles and healings by aligning their words and faith actions with God's methods
• To inspire both ministers and believers to become skillful in the practice of faith, not only for personal breakthrough but also to minister to others

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Power of Words and the Principle of Calling

• Miracles and healings require "miracle words": God does everything by words, and faith works by speaking in agreement with what God has seen and declared.
• Example: The Centurion's Faith ([02:35]):
  • The centurion didn't need Jesus to visit his house, just His words. "I'm not worthy for you to come under my roof... speak the word only." (Nancy Dufresne)
  • Challenge: Would we have the same faith to believe words alone can bring a miracle?

2. Will of God vs. Ways of God

• Knowing the will is not enough:
  "You can know that healing belongs to you, that it’s His will. But if you don’t know His way, it’s like a hungry man standing outside the bakery." ([04:30])
• Illustration:
  Knowing about the fish in a stream is useless unless you know how to catch them.
• Biblical Reference:
  The Israelites saw God's acts, but Moses knew His ways (Psalm 103:7).

3. Recorded Healings and the Importance of Faith

• Nineteen individual healing accounts in Jesus's ministry ([11:15]):
  • Twelve specifically credit the faith of the recipient.
  • "Faith is nothing but your invitation for God to work. That’s all it is—it’s your agreement with God." ([12:30])
  • "Dad Hagin taught us: God is a perfect gentleman. He will not move uninvited, even to heal you."

4. The Way of Faith: Calling Things That Are Not

• Romans 4 and Abraham:
  "God calls those things which be not as though they were." ([14:10–16:30])
• Key Principle:
  Faith is calling (speaking) what God has already seen, not what your senses show you.
• Not Blind, But Trusting:
  "We are walking by what God has seen and reports to us...We trust His vision." ([16:09])

5. God's Example in Genesis

• Creation Model ([17:00]):
  • God didn’t say, “It’s dark.” He said, “Light be.”
  • "You do not get what you want talking about what you have." ([20:45])
• Analogy: Thermostat vs. Power Box ([27:34–30:00]):
  • You're the little box (thermostat); you set what you want, and the power (God) does the rest.

6. Making Faith a Lifestyle

• Faith Is a Lifestyle, Not Emergency Protocol ([31:00]):
  • "Calling those things which be not as though they were is not simply a crisis emergency step. It’s the way we live every day."
• Difference Between Believing and Saying:
  Abraham believed for 24 years without a child because he wasn't calling it. Only after the name change (to "Abraham") and declaring it with his mouth did he receive the promise within a year.
  "It's not enough to believe it; you have to say it." ([33:46])

7. Jesus’s Example: Calling Miracles Before They Manifest

• Examples from Jesus:
  • Water to Wine: "He just then called it, those things that be not as though they were." ([39:39])
  • Blind Bartimaeus: "Go thy way, thy faith has made thee whole." Said before sight was restored. ([40:16])
  • The Woman Bent Over: "Woman, thou art loosed"—spoken before visible healing. ([41:49])
  • The Storm at Sea: Jesus said "Peace" to a raging storm, not describing the turmoil. ([46:48])
  • Raising the Dead: Progression from Jairus’s daughter (moments dead), the widow's son (hours), to Lazarus (days)—Jesus always called the end result, "arise." ([58:43])

8. Practical Application: Quit Thinking, Start Calling

• Analogy: Using a Phone ([50:30]):
  • "I don't know how me pushing buttons got me a voice in Canada... Your problem is, you're thinking. Quit thinking and call."
• Practice on Yourself First:
  "Don’t practice your healing on your children. Practice it on you. Get results." ([41:49])

9. The Importance of Maintaining Right Confession

• Don't Call Your Need "Hard" ([76:24]):
  • "If you call it hard, you're going to think it's beyond what you can lay hold of."
• Jesus called healing 'easy': "Which is easier, to say, 'Your sins are forgiven' or 'Rise, take up your bed and walk'?" ([77:45])
• Shut Out Negative Confessions:
  "It’s okay to say what you’re facing as long as you follow it up with what you believe." ([58:45])

10. Activation: Calling for Your Miracle

• Corporate Declaration ([66:10–68:45]):
  • Pastor Nancy leads the congregation in calling for every need (healing, provision, wisdom, relationships) using faith-filled confessions.
• Don’t just hear—speak it out:
  "You hear it so you can speak it… Make it a lifestyle every day; call something that be not as though it were." ([64:02])

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "To have miracle results, you have to have miracle words. God does everything by words." – Nancy Dufresne ([01:45])
• "Faith is nothing but your invitation for God to work." – Nancy Dufresne ([12:30])
• "Calling those things which be not as though they are is not walking blindly. It is walking by what God has seen and reports to us." – Nancy Dufresne ([16:09])
• "You do not get what you want talking about what you have." – Nancy Dufresne ([20:45])
• "If you don’t do His way, you can’t have His will." – Nancy Dufresne ([22:12])
• "Desperation does not equal faith." – Nancy Dufresne ([14:08])
• "Quit thinking and call. You're not smart enough to think it through, because this is the way of God." – Nancy Dufresne ([51:20])
• "Don't ever call your need hard... Every healing is so simple, it's so easy for God." – Nancy Dufresne ([76:24])
• "How long do I have to call it? Till it shows up? What do you like—calling that long, or doing without it for the rest of your life?" – Nancy Dufresne ([64:00])
• Testimony ([87:00]): Woman healed of 30 years of hip and knee pain:
  “I got out and walked around the back and I started running. I haven’t run in over 30 years!”

Key Timestamps and Important Segments

• [01:45] - Principle: God works through words; the centurion story
• [04:30] - Will vs. Ways of God; bakery/fish illustration
• [11:15] - 19 cases of healing and the role of faith
• [12:30] - "Faith is your invitation for God to work."
• [14:08–16:30] - Romans 4: God calls things which be not
• [20:45] - Speaking what you want, not what you have
• [27:34] - Thermostat analogy
• [31:00] - Everyday faith, not just for crises
• [33:46] - Abraham's delayed promise: 'believing' vs. 'calling'
• [39:39–46:45] - Jesus’s miracle methods: Speaking as calling
• [50:30] - Phone analogy: overthinking vs. calling
• [58:43–61:44] - Jesus confronts death: Jairus’ daughter, widow’s son, Lazarus
• [64:02] - Fill up on Word, then call; faith as lifestyle
• [66:10–68:45] - Corporate declaration and activation of faith
• [76:24–78:10] - Importance of post-prayer confession: calling it 'easy'
• [87:00–88:08] - Live testimony of healing: “I haven't run in over 30 years.”
• [89:04–93:05] - Multiple healing testimonies from attendees

Closing & Takeaways

• The main thrust: Learn and practice the "way" of God by calling those things that be not as though they were.
• Faith is an action: It requires both believing and speaking—fill up on God’s Word, and call for what you need boldly and persistently.
• Doers, not just hearers: Results come when faith is put into practice, not just understood or discussed.
• Miracles are simple for God: Never label your problem as hard; align with what God already sees and has provided for you.

“We are faith children of a faith God. And we call it like He calls it. We call those things—we call it, we call it, we call it.”

—Nancy Dufresne ([64:00])

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