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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message.
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Well, you could be seated this morning. Welcome, everybody, to Thursday morning of the Georgetown Miracle Crusades. Miracles in the morning. And one of the. One of the reasons I like to say that is because it sounds cool. No, one of the reasons I like to say that is because the flow of God is something that gets stronger and stronger, like a current, like an ocean current. And it's increasingly moving throughout these meetings and as I said the other day, in every part of the service. And so even during what you might think is just teaching, God's working, God's working. And you can receive that which you need miraculously. Amen. And we're thankful for testimonies which we've received. We're big time thankful for. We've heard some pretty outstanding ones already this week, haven't we? But I'm telling you, greater than these, we will see, and not just limited to the realm of the area of healing, but I'm telling you, miraculous occurrences in the area. Finances. I'm telling you those testimonies are coming too. I have shared one with you. Not from here, not from these means, but just by way of example, the kind of things that God does. I have a good friend who's a. I don't know if you know this term. He's a mix engineer in Nashville, Tennessee. A mix engineer is somebody who particularly takes music projects and then does the final engineering on them and makes a lot of money doing it. And this is years ago. He would help us do our music projects when I was working for Brother Hagin and I said, you know, Brother Hagin's coming to Nashville. We're doing a two week meeting there. And he said, yeah. He said, that sounds like fun because he was really enjoying the ministry as well when he'd come help us with things. And so I said, you ought to go to the meetings. And he said, two weeks. I said, yeah, they're two weeks, morning and evening. He said, morning. And you know, this is back in the 1990s and, you know, he was making well over, you know, a thousand bucks a day. Just, you know, they get paid a lot to do what they do. And those little Grammys aren't cheap to earn those, so you gotta pay a lot for those folk. And he said, well, I don't know, but he had it on his heart to go to those meetings. He said, I've never taken this kind of time off in my adult Life, but I'm gonna do it. And he did, and ended up meeting his wife at those meetings. Of course, they're still married today. And he's recovered from those two weeks off. Matter of fact, came out refreshed. Came out better. Well, that's what I'm saying. There's just a flow, and it'll bless every area of your life. Amen. And so we just encourage you every time there's the opportunity to get in the flow like this. Keep yourself in it. Do you hear what I said? Keep yourself in it. And it'll work. And things will happen in every area of your life. In the era of the miraculous in it. Glory to God. Well, specifically, in these morning meetings, it's our direction to minister on the subject of prayer. And I tell you what, we've had a good time here doing it. Really good time. I want to have my wife come and start us off and just see where we go. Because you know how the Bible talks about the greater one. Well, in this marriage, I'm gonna bring up the greater one. No. Praise the Lord.
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Praise the Lord.
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She's the prettier one. You wouldn't argue about that, would you? She's the prettier one. Amen. And whatever you got. And if it gets back to me, fine. And if it doesn't, even better. Praise the Lord. Okay.
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Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. If you would this morning, turn with me to Colossians, chapter four. Hallelujah. Nobody's tired, are you?
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No.
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Not tired of coming to church? Not tired of miracle crusades? No. You know, if there's one thing I don't like about these miracle crusades is that they end so quick. It's already Thursday. Right. But we've been ministering along the lines of continuing in prayer. And if we're not careful when we come to church, you know, my husband and I, of course, we've been in the ministry for quite some time, and we try to, as we're led, just keep the temperature, so to speak, of what is happening in the body of Christ. And there's some people that will say things like, you know, we've been. They'll put testimonies out there about how they've been delivered from the faith message. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's interesting. Like, how do you get delivered from faith?
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Yeah.
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Like, I'm supposed to live by faith. But when you hear what they're saying, and I'm not saying suggesting that you go look for this necessarily, but we just are interested in some of those things because we want to know what people are thinking. And when they start saying what they think they've been delivered from, we start to realize one thing. They didn't get it. They never had it. They never understood it. And what we're realizing is people, what they hear isn't necessarily what's being said, because we know some of the people that they're saying they've been sitting under. And I'm like, I don't know them personally, but I know they would never say what these people think they said. And so we want to be so very careful about how we hear things.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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And if we don't quite understand, come out of services, misinterpreting. And you know, Jesus, he was master at knowing what people were thinking in a service when they didn't even say anything. What was that? That was the Holy Ghost helping him. Right. And when we think, when we minister on things like continuing in prayer, you know what a lot of people think? Gosh, one more thing to add to my list. They think this is going to be hard. I don't have time for this. What do you mean, continue? We're reading the Bible. This whole week we've been reading out of scriptures. And I better get to the right translation here. Colossians 4, verse 2. This is just one more scripture I'm adding to the many my husband has taken us through. Right. I've been very impressed at how much the Word says about continuing. And this is just one more verse. It says here in verse two, continue in prayer. Continue in prayer and watch in the same with thanksgiving.
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Amen.
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Continue in prayer. Yes, but when we hear these things, we've got to be careful not to think, oh, gosh, this is so hard. What do you mean, continue constantly in prayer? And I was. I was just saying. I was like, holy Spirit, some people aren't getting this. They're not. They're coming out thinking, this is going to be hard. This is a labor. This. This is a struggle. But how many know Jesus said, come on to me. My yoke is easy. My burden is light. So there's gotta be something to continuing in prayer that's actually easy and light. And I was saying to the Lord, I was like, people think this is hard. They don't know how to continue. And you know what the Spirit said to me? Yes, they do. He said, ask them how many people have looked at their phones in the past hour. And I was like, oh, yeah, right. How many people go anywhere nowadays without one of these? How many people look at it pretty much constantly. This not only helps me call somebody, but I can text somebody. They can contact me. It tells me where I'm going. It gives me a map. This one helps me. If I don't understand something, I can ask Siri. If I need a question answered on how something works, ask Google. Right? What is this doing? This is constantly helping my life. And the spirit of God said, people use this and they don't sit there and go, oh, this is so hard. I've got to use my phone again.
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Come on.
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My kids are in their 20s. Yes, I know I don't look that.
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Old.
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But they have never once said to me, mom, it's so hard to use my phone. Matter of fact, they've gotten to the point where my son's like, I have to make myself put it down and walk away. I have to do that. I have to make myself sometimes put that. Why? Because we're. We have trained, trained ourselves, whether we realize it or not, to continually pay attention to that.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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If we can do it with a phone. I was talking to some ladies one time and I said, you know, I used to rely on the spirit for so many things that now I look to my phone for. What do you mean? I mean, there were times when my kids were going to be coming home from school or my husband was off doing something and I had to have dinner ready and I would look to the spirit of God to find out when I should have a meal on the table. You can do that? Yes, yes. The spirit of God can help you with every part of your life.
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Yeah.
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But now all you have to do is find my friends. And yes, I still have my 20 year olds and find my friends. They live in a different state and I still know where they are.
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Yes.
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We must be so very careful to first follow him continually, look to him continually. And in the amplified translation of Colossians 4, it says, Be earnest and unwearied and steadfast in your prayer life.
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Amen.
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Being both alert and intent in your praying with thanksgiving. A life of prayer, continuing in prayer, staying ready in prayer. It's not burdensome, it's not wearisome, it's not difficult. If we just learn to live in that flow like we've learned to live with technology. When cell phones first came out, my husband bought me one and I left at home all the time, and he'd try to call me and I didn't have my phone or it was in the car, and he's like, I bought you a Phone. Why don't you use it? I said I will use it when I want to. When I want to call someone else, I will go get the phone and pick it up. It's not for you to get ahold of me. It's for me to get a hold of. Right. And that was my mindset for a really long time. If we're not careful, that's our mindset with God.
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Yeah. Oh, no, say that again. Come on now.
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If we are not careful, our mindset is. My prayer life is for when I need something and I need to get a hold of Him. I'm going to be sweet today, but we want to be so very careful. This is a relationship with not only our Heavenly Father, but with the Creator of the universe, who has asked us as his body, to participate in these end times, in these end days, in this last great remove and great move. Sorry. And part of our participation is living this life of prayer.
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Yeah. Amen.
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Staying ready?
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Yes, yes, yes.
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So when the spirit of God alerts you. I'm so used to my phone buzzing with a text that now the spirit of God on the inside, it's almost like a. Yeah, it's notification. I mean, he's learned to get my attention that same way. Why? Because we're used to that. And you can stop and be like, one moment, please. I've got to check on the inside because there's something that needs to be taken care of. This is not grievous. It's not burdensome.
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Amen.
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It's actually amazing.
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Yeah.
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And so if we're not careful, when we hear these things about continuing, we'll leave this place and they'll say, oh, this is so hard, this life of prayer. What do they expect me to do? And we think we've got to just add on tack on hours and hours and hours extra to our day. Now, I don't know about you. I don't really have extra hours. Right. We all get 24. We all get 24 per day. That's all we've got. But our life in him, It can be so easy, it can be so wonderful. It can be so beautiful to just live in his presence. And Pastor Nancy, when she was in St. Petersburg, Russia, she had a visitation from the Lord and she wrote it down for us in the book, the price of the double portion anointing. Right. And I actually, I copied the what Jesus said to her, and I carry it with me all the time and I read it continually. And in that visitation, the Lord mentioned to her Smith Wigglesworth as an example to us of how to live a life in him. Now, Smith Wigglesworth, I believe it's been said that someone asked him, brother Smith, how long do you pray? You know, because they were wanting to see, how many hours do I have to clock in? Right. You know, how long is this, you know, a real spiritual life going to take me? And he would say things like, I don't typically pray longer than 30 minutes. Really? And everyone's like, whoa, I can do that. And he said, but I never go more than 30 minutes without praying. And then you think, can you do that? Yeah. Yeah. What is prayer? It's just talking to God. It's just fellowshipping with him. It's just checking in with him. Like you would text your children and see how they're doing. It's not difficult. It's not hard. It's not like we have to add an extra three hours onto our day just to feel spiritual. This is a life.
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Yeah.
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For the Christian, it's our life.
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Amen.
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And it's to be a joy.
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Amen. Yes. Yes.
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And so the Lord mentioned Smith Wigglesworth as an example of how we're to live our life. And then he said to her, meditate often much on the lightness and the ease of my yoke that you think right towards these things.
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Amen.
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And if there's anything I could encourage you to do today, it's to think right about this, because a life of continual prayer is wonderful. And then he went on to say, in my presence is fullness of joy. That's what the scripture says, Right? In his presence is fullness of joy. And he said this phrase, and I just keep saying it over and over to myself, Carry out my plan in my presence. I'm going to say that again. Carry out my plan in my presence. You mean you can carry out his plan and not be in his presence? Yes. Yes. Praise the Lord. Carry out my plan in my presence. Then you will hold yourself in the joy of this flow.
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Amen.
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Where the mind and the body are always kept under the dominion of your spirit through continual intake of the word and prayer.
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Yes.
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Hallelujah. Glory to God. I'm not going to go much longer.
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Okay.
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Okay. Praise the Lord. But we want to make sure that we continue in this place. And I want us to understand that there is fullness of joy.
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Yeah.
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In the place of prayer. In continual prayer and continually fellowshipping with him and continually talking to him and continually being led by Him. This is not difficult. This is not hard. Anytime you pick up your phone and look at it, people under 30, under 40, under 50, come on, all of us, we should be remembering. Am I checking in with the Father as much as I'm checking in with whatever seems to be important on that? Right. Because I'm sorry, Facebook just isn't as important and whatever else is out there, because I don't even know beyond that, if I start naming things, my kids will text me and say, mom, that doesn't even exist anymore.
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Praise the Lord.
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It's just not as important as Him. It's just not as important as his flow. It's just not as important. It's just not as important. But the joy of his flow.
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Yeah.
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And he goes on to talk about how the joy of this flow, it will lift us up and carry us through the easy times, but not only that, through the hard times.
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Amen.
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The joy of the flow, the joy of his presence, the joy of being in him all day long, every day. This is not difficult. This is his plan. Amen for the believer. Glory to God. Hallelujah. You gotta come help.
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Okay, okay. Praise God.
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Hallelujah.
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So it's a. Take your copyright infringement. You're not supposed to. They could sue you for that.
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Oh, no. Oh, no. They can't.
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Copying off a book. But it's easier than carrying the whole thing with you all the time. Yes. If you haven't. If you don't know what that was. So that was from the price of the double portion anointing that Pastor Nancy wrote. And that'd be great for everybody to get that and read that. Read that and read that. The scripture you're referring to, Colossians 4, 2, says, continue in prayer, watching in the same. In thanksgiving. And I want to talk to you a second about the last part of that verse. And because, well, how. Okay, we're supposed to live this life of prayer. How much do I say? I mean, you can only ask so many times and in so many ways. And really, we talked the other day about, well, we're not toddlers. God hears us. Right. But that verse gives us the answer to how to continue. And it is this. Once you've asked, once you've gone to him, once you've. Sorry, I mean, you passed. Once you've asked, then you watch over that prayer with thanksgiving. And really, we didn't get to look at them. But Paul talked about in many different places, he said, I give thanks every time I remember you, remembering you constantly in my prayers. And so, so much of our prayer life falls into the category of what people think is not really prayer, and it's these. It's these subjects of praise, worship, Thanksgiving, rejoicing, Give me a little smile, give me a little love. Because I've heard good preaching, I've heard bad preaching.
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I've heard.
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And I'm not saying what we're doing is the greatest, but it's not the worst. So give me a little help. It's better than a prison sentence. And so praise, worship and Thanksgiving. That's probably the biggest part of my prayer life. And there's times where just giving thanks for the things that you've. That you've been praying about, things that God's led you to pray about. That's. That's everything. That's everything. And what does that do? That helps hold you in the place she was talking about. Do you see what we're talking about? Holding ourselves in a place? There's. There's kind of a standard that we're talking about here that's somewhat. It's been known in generations past, but it's not so widespread that everybody knows it. And it's more necessary today for the hour we're in and for all the things. Again, not a burden, just necessary. Right? Necessary to live in this place where, if I could just say it this way, your spiritual phone is always on. You're not always on it, it's just always on. If a notification comes, you ain't sleeping through it.
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You're there.
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You know what I'm saying? And so there's things we believe in God for, led by him. He's put this in front of us, a certain project or a certain thing, and all of us have them in our lives. There's things. If you're not believing for anything, you're not doing anything. Come on, now. If you're not believing for something, you're not listening. Because God will always be putting the stretch on you. That's how you grow. That's how you grow. Anybody ever, when you were a kid. Sorry, this dates you. Anybody as a kid ever had a Stretch Armstrong? Huh? You ever noticed that his arms just kept getting longer and longer in default mode? You know what I mean? When you first got him at Christmas or whatever, he snapped, right? You know, you'd stretch them, but then he'd snap right back. Then after a year, it's like his arms are just longer. Well, see, he's been stretched and he grew. That's how we grow, by getting the stretch put on us. So things that you're believing God for Things we're believing God for. I'm not asking God to do it every day. Matter of fact, I'll just, you know, every once in a while I like to say things that just, you know, like take a ball bat to your head a little bit and make you think differently. Makes me think differently. There's things I don't ask for at all. If I see he's provided it or if he's dealt with me about it, that I have this for you, then that's his provision and I just receive it and I say, father, I see that you're offering me this, so I take it now and I thank you. And then from that point on, I don't say, oh, God, do it. Do it to it. Get her done. No, no, no, no. We just thanking him that is done. We're thanking him that we have it now. And we watch over that prayer with thanksgiving and happy about it. Because if you're waiting on God to do it, you don't believe he's done it. And if you don't believe he's done it, you're not in faith. And if you're not in faith, it's not happening. And you deceive thinking it is. I'd say that again. I'm not sure that I could, though. When something like, if you're waiting on God to do it, you don't believe he's done it. If you don't believe he's done it, you're not in faith. If you're not in faith, it's not coming to pass. And so to keep yourself in that place, keep yourself in that place of faith, keep yourself in that place of prayer, we just constantly thanking God for it. Every time you think of it, you might say, well, what if I don't think of it? Just get yourself in the presence of God and all that pertains to your life, and your prayer life will start to rise up and you'll just start tapping into it. Amen. And whether, you know, if you're a pastor believing for a building or whatever it is, you just thank God. It's a joy. It's part of your fellowship. You gotta breathe, don't you? Well, you may as well breathe toward him a little bit. You know what I'm talking about? Thank you, Lord, for this part of your plan. Whatever it is, a building or this or that, that you've dealt with me about, thank you for it. We're so glad we are enjoying it now. By faith, I mean, if it's a home that he's dealt with you about that. He has for you. And you've released your faith for it. You've received that thing. Then stop sleeping in your house. Do you have some kind of photo of what the bedroom looks like at this point in the new house? Then when you lay down, see yourself in that bedroom. Amen. That's faith. Say thank you, Lord. I'm enjoying this new bedroom. I'm enjoying sleeping in this room that you get in this house that you gave me. We might get somebody happy yet. I'm not sure. Continuing in prayer. Now, there's so many benefits to this. We've talked about some of them. Amy talked about some of them. One of them is it just holds you in a place of what we would call being, to a degree, in the spirit. Amen. Now, there are other times you can pray as you go, like she was talking about. There are times, though, where you'll have an assignment in prayer. Amen. And again, this is not just for those who think they have a ministry of. Of prayer, but really everybody that would draw near to God. God will tap them to pray for this, pray for that, learn this flow, you know, and there's times you'll get what we would call a burden. You ever. Anybody here, you've ever experienced that, where it's like, I've got to. I've got to. I've just got to pray. My wife probably more than I do. My wife will get these assignments and these things, and we'll be leaving a prayer meeting, and she'll immediately start praying. I'm like, what again? And she'll say, I just started tapping into. I just started hitting into this. And I got to drill down a little more. You know what I mean? So there's also times of extended. Can I say it this way, friends? More intense. More intense prayer. Now, these aren't. Now, you don't need any kind of leading to just fellowship with God and worship him and stay in this place of continual prayer, fellowship. But you don't put yourself in these more intense times of prayer. You follow him to those more intense times. Prayer. And speaking of continuing in prayer, are you okay for just a few more minutes here? The Bible talks a lot about these other types of prayer as well. And let's see, you're in Colossians 4, aren't you? Colossians, right there in chapter 4, towards the end of the chapter, talks about a man named. It depends how you pronounce it. But I looked it up. It seems like it's Epaphras. I would think epaphras, but it seems like it's epaphras from studying how many know. It doesn't matter. If you have a check for me, I don't care how you say my name. I get so many phone calls. Is this Mr. Sajel? I was like, depends on what you have for me. Is it if it's a bill? No, that's not how you say it. If it's a check, yes, that's me. So, epaphras. Paphras. Who is one of you? A servant of Christ, you know, doesn't say anything about being an apostle. Doesn't say anything about being a prophetic intercessor or a special kind of minister. He's just one of you. Servant of Christ. He salutes you. Look at this. Always laboring fervently for you in prayers. Do you notice that language, friends? Always laboring. We just had Labor Day the other day, didn't we? Right. But I think a better example than physical labor is any ladies here. You ever heard of labor? Huh? Anybody ever gone through labor? Would you say it's more intense than sipping a Starbucks at home? Huh? A little bit more intense, yeah. There's such a thing as labor, labor in prayer. And it's an interesting word in the Greek. I don't even know if I can pronounce it all because it's kind of a longer. But it's agonizomai. But we get our word agony or agonize. Agonize. You know, you can get into places of prayer where you're taking care of business in the spirit. You don't always even know what it pertains to. Matter of fact, I'd say a lot of times you don't know what it pertains to, but you just start praying. And in cooperating with the spirit, particularly when you're praying in other tongues, the spirit will sometimes take you to these places where you are. Well, I'll just say it. You're in agony. And I've been in places of prayer where, like, if I don't get help, I feel like I might just die under this burden. I know you like the gal that was up here talking about how it's hard. It's not hard, it's easy. Most of the time, that's the case. I'm talking about these other aspects that are necessary at times because you don't want to. If I could just use my own, the way I say things. You don't want to blow off a burden. You know what I mean? Blow Off. Blow off. Like you blow off an appointment. I don't even know if that's. That's just how we used to talk. You don't want to ignore. That would be the better. You don't want to just ignore and pretend these things. You want to. If the spirit's engaging you, you want to engage. Because you probably. You very well may not know what's attached to that. Amen. Could be something critical, could be something life or death for you or somebody you don't even know. What's the difference? What's the difference? There shouldn't be a difference. That's why you don't know everything. So that you just train yourself to respond. Amen. And you can be praying and you'll just. You'll just sense, man, I've got to get to the other side of this thing. And it can get so strong that you don't know if you can. That's why it's good to have faith, friends. Amen. It's good to have people who can help. There's been times that if I wasn't praying with somebody, you just honestly, you feel like going to die under this thing. And it's hard to explain a little bit because it's not like a physical pressure. It's a spirit. It's in your spirit, in your inner man. And it's this spiritual heaviness that you feel is like it's going to do you in if you don't get out from under it. And there's two ways to get out from under it. One is ignore it and just run as fast as you can, but you don't want to do that. The other is to keep praying. And God will get you through it. And it's helpful if somebody can even help you, if that's possible. Amen. So there's times where there's labor. Labor. Now, what is labor to somebody giving birth? Labor is the physical process whereby something precious and alive moves from the unseen realm to the seen realm. That's part of what our prayer life is for, to get things to move from the unseen realm to the seen realm. What's in the unseen realm? All of all that God is. All that God has. All that God does starts in. In the unseen realm. And where do you and I, most of the time want to see it? In the seen realm. Amen. And how do you get things there? Sometimes you got to go through labor and delivery. You got to labor. There'll be times where the Spirit will lead you. And we sometimes use this phrase. That you can birth things in prayer. We talked so much this week, you know, about the move of God, the plan of God. These things have to be birthed, prayed out. It's not always agony. It's not always agony. But still, that's how these things go from the unseen realm to the seen realm. One way. Amen. Is that we spend time laboring, laboring again. She talked. I'm not undoing what she just said. There's a balance. There's different sides to this mountain. There's the side of continual prayer, continual fellowship. There's the side of watching over your prayers with thanksgiving and joy and rejoicing over it. And there's the side of at times following the Spirit into this more intense kind of prayer. Are we doing okay? You know, Romans 15. If you don't mind, to go over there, and I won't take much longer this morning, we'll just actually do some of this. Praise him, everybody. You know, his words are life to us. And every. Every time you hear a scripture, every time you read a scripture, you're ingesting Life. So Romans 15. And Paul. This is just another scripture right along these lines in the 30th verse, where Paul says, now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ's sake and for the love of the Spirit, that you look at this. That you strive together with me in your prayers to God for me. That I may be delivered from them that do not believe in Judea. And that my service, which I have for Jerusalem might be accepted of the saints. That I may come to you with joy by the will of God and may with you be refreshed. Paul uses that same term when he says that you strive together. It's that same. I won't try to pronounce it. Agon. Something. Whatever. Agonize. That you agonize with me. What's he saying? He said for me to get into these places, delivered from the ones I need to be delivered from that are causing trouble and to get where I need to go, it's just not seeming to happen on its own naturally. Anybody you've ever had something that just doesn't seem to be happening like it ought to be happening? I mean, we see it in front of us, and it's like we. It looks like a door, but we come up and the door's locked. And we come up and it looks like a door. And it's not a door at all. It's a brick wall. And I can't seem to get through to this Other side of things, friends, that will happen all the time. You know why? You don't just have a savior, you have a devil. Amen. There's opposition to everything that God would have for us. Sometimes we're the opposition. Now we got to fix that. Got to get us out of the way. But sometimes there's opposition from the forces of darkness. Amen. And the way you get through that is by cooperating with God in the spirit. And Paul's like, there's these doors. We need to be going through these doors. And I need more than just me going after this to get this stuff open. We're in the flow of the miraculous. We talk about it, but I'm telling you, there's levels of it that we need to get into. And one of the ways that we would get into it is by cooperating with the Spirit as he leads us in prayer. Thank you for your enthusiasm. It is true. It's true. It's true. We cooperate with him and what do I mean, levels of the miraculous? Well, you know, we're seeing things. We're seeing more than maybe we did a year ago. But how many know that we will not. Anything that the Bible shows belongs to us, and anything that Jesus said belongs to us or the Lord said belongs to us. And it talks about the pastor Nancy referenced over in Matthew, I think, 15th chapter, where it talks about the maimed being whole. Well, we hadn't seen that in person. Amen. Or at least received the testimonies. I mean, to my knowledge, I think they would have read that one if they said I had no legs. And now here they are. We'd be reading that. I'm just. I'm not trying to. I'm just assuming, but I'm pretty proud, darn certain that we would have heard that testimony. Well, see, that's just a level. That's a level. Amen. The rising of the waters, like we like to say. Well, some of these things you got to. We got to strive together, follow the spirit. And sometimes it can be intense. We're in prayer. I mean, I'll just tell you in my experience what it's like. I mean, there's just times I start just hollering, no offense, anybody, but like a woman in labor, just hollering. I've been through labor twice, and it was hard on me, and I wasn't the one pushing the baby out, but I was there. You know what I mean? You're there. I know you deliver babies, probably. I don't want that. That's not my Grace, I wasn't delivering them. I was just standing there holding her hand. And it's like I needed a catcher behind me, you know what I mean? Needed an usher behind me to help keep me up. And, I mean, first time wasn't all. Didn't seem all too bad. I passed out the first time. That's why I remember it. The second time, I remember real well. Because you were having trouble. She was in agony, and the medicine or whatever wore off. She took it all. She said, whatever you have, give it to me. Amen. That's faith. If you have it, give it. Amen. I don't care. Help me. And it got to pushing time. And what she was going through is exactly what I'm talking about. Sometimes in prayer, you feel like this is going to kill me. And the second time, you know, our daughter's always been this way. She started this way. She was like, it's cold. I'm not coming out. You know, I'm staying in. And the doctor now, our doctor, she was sweet St. John, she. We were in St. John's Hospital in Tulsa by Utica Square there, and both our kids. And so our doctor was this sweet lady. I mean, we felt like we were almost friends with her. She was. Just treated us so nice. I'm telling you, she turned into. She hulk when she. When she said, amy, push. And Amy said, I can't. I don't know if she cussed or what, but she turned. She turned green. Veins popped out. Her voice changed, and she said, amy, I said, push that baby out now. And when she. Now, to me, that's what it sounded like. But I know. I know I could be exaggerating just a little bit. You know what I mean? Like, maybe. But she. She scared both of us. It's like, I didn't know you had this side to you, but what did she know? She knew that if you continue. If you continue, you're going to get what's. You're going to get what's at the point of delivery, but just doesn't seem to be popping out. But if you just continue, we getting this thing out. We get. We getting this little girl. And she knew that doctor knew. You stay with us. Come on. Don't you quit me. Don't you quit me. Stay with us. And she helped us. She agonized together with us by turning into a monster. And when she said that, Amy was like, yes, I can. And when you get to the other side, You on the other side. We got to the other side of that delivery, and I'm like, now, that wasn't so bad, was it? That wasn't. That wasn't so bad. But the thing about labor is you think it will never end. The thing about laboring in prayer, there's. Sometimes you think, we will never get to the other side of this. But you will. You will. God helps you get to the. And you can birth things. What do we mean, spiritually speaking? Birth things. Things that need to be in the seen realm. Moving them from the unseen to the seen realm.
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You.
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You set me up. This is good preaching right here. Yeah, you got us going this morning. One more. Can you handle one more verse? Could you handle more than one? Well, I'm just going to give you one, as far as I know. But over in Galatians, chapter four. Hallelujah, Y'. All. These meetings have been just. I don't know if they've blessed you like they've blessed me. I agree with my wife when she said, man, bummer. It's the last day, you know, but be believing with God to, you know, however he directs Pastor Nancy, because I just believe that so many more of these would help the body of Christ as he would lead. Right. And so I know we'll have more someday. Praise God. Can't wait. Galatians, chapter four. And many of you might know where we're going here, but in the 19th verse, it says, my little children of whom I travail in birth again. Again means he's done it before, whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you. And so travail in birth. This is this same idea of labor agonizing, going through a more intense situation and dealing with him. He said, I travailed to get you there. Do you know, there's things that. There's churches that need to be established, that need to be birthed by the Spirit rather than started on a whim. Right. Rather than just started. Because it's a good idea or because we have people trained. No, you want things to be birthed by God. Amen. And then also there are people that unless somebody gets in the Spirit and will take time and cooperate with God and even travail, they won't be birthed into the kingdom of God. I don't know who all did the labor for me, but you got to know that I was hanging on for dear life inside the womb of my life of sin. I did not want to come out of it. And, you know, I was raised Jewish and that you just don't want to go as a Jew, you're the one thing you're taught. They wouldn't care if you said, I'm a Buddhist or a Hindu. But if you say you're a Christian, they just. That's not. You just don't. That's not cool. You don't do that. And so I was resisting, resisting, resisting, resisting. And my friend would try to talk to me about heaven and hell, and I'd say, I want to tell you which one you could go to. I literally. I mean, that was my attitude. I said, you need that. You need a crutch. I don't, but I do. I don't need a crutch. I need the whole thing. I need the gurney. Was somebody. Somebody might. Some. I don't know, somebody had. Because something changed on the inside of me, and I'm like, oh, God, I need you.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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Come on. Amen. And then there's people that get born again. And if someone doesn't pay the price to cooperate with God in prayer, they're not going to have Christ formed in them. They're going to have their growth stunted. They're going to remain at a lower level. You might say, well, we're preaching the word. They should just get the word. I know they should, but not all do. Not all do. Well, you might say this sounds a whole lot different than the easy and light that your wife was. Just follow God. Just follow God. And what needs to be said will be said. What needs to be prayed will be prayed. And just make this as much a part of your life as. I just thought of a great illustration. As much as your phone is a part of your life, make this part. Make this a part of your life. Isn't that awesome? That just came up. Make it just a whole life in him. This is so far removed from, I go to church on Sundays or I go to church every few Sundays. This is so different than that. But this. We're talking about actual Christianity, not the pretend thing. Hallelujah. So how about we just cooperate? I'm not saying we're going to agonize. Matter of fact, it'd be just fine with me if we didn't have to do that. But what we are going to do is cooperate with God in prayer. Has this been okay? Some of this stuff, you know, we're wrong to think everybody just knows this, you know? And I realize some of you do maybe practice this all the time, but this is for the sake of others who also need to know. So come on, love. And you can sit if you Want. Just don't fall asleep, okay? If you need to stand, you can stand. If you want to kneel, whatever you can, Whatever is fine with me. But we just want to see how God would lead us in prayer. Now, what I do. This is just me. You do you. But what I do is so much of the time when I go to prayer, I'll start out praying the big picture, meaning I'll start out just talking to God, watching over my prayers with thanksgiving regarding his plan, his things and all that. And then I know it puts me in the ballpark, if I could say it that way. And then from there, he'll direct me just anyway. And sometimes we don't even know just following the Spirit, exactly what he's having us pray about. And you know what I've discovered that as I cooperate with him regarding his plan, it seems like me and my things and my plans get sorted out.
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Yes. Yes, that's true.
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It's beautiful. It's beautiful. You take care of God's stuff, He'll take care of your stuff. You take care of his family, he'll take care of your family. Amen. So, since you've been so excited about the first part of the service, I know you're going to be thrilled about this, so let's just go to the Lord. Father, thank you today. How we appreciate you, how we love you, how we're honored that you came after us and that you found us. You didn't let us die and perish. You didn't let us go to hell when we deserved it. But you rescued us, you ransomed us, you redeemed us, you bought us and translated us from darkness into the kingdom of the Son of your love. And you've given us status with Jesus as a full son in your family. Thank you for who you've made us. Thank you for all you've done. Thank you for what redemption has accomplished. We so thank you. We praise you, we worship you. We love you. Glory to God. Glory to God. We thank you for that, what you're doing in our day. We thank you for the great mighty flow of God which we're privileged to be in. And we're thankful, Father, that you allow us to cooperate with your spirit in whichever way you desire to help us. Pray out this place that the waters of revival rise, that the era of the miraculous strengthens, that we see greater works than what we've seen heretofore. Thank you, Father, for all the gifts and manifestations of the Spirit. Amen. For the revelation gifts, the Word of wisdom, the word of knowledge, the discerning of spirits. Thank you for those to be in strong manifestation. Thank you for prophecy. Thank you for tongues. Thank you for the interpretation of tongues in strong manifestation. Thank you, Father, for the manifestation of faith. Thank you for the gifts of healings. Thank you, father, for the working of miracles in strong manifestation. In overwhelming manifestation. And so we thank you, Father, for that what you're doing. We thank you, Father, for those who stand in places ministry that those gifts operate through in strong measure. Thank you, Father, for the apostles, for the prophets, for the evangelists, for the pastors, for the teachers in the fullness of their place. Oh, we thank you for it. We bless you for it. And father, right now we trust the holy spirit to give us utterance as we lift our voice united in prayer along these lines. Yeah. Criotori kata. That which concerns your plan. That which concerns this hour. And the expansion and increase of those yes, yes. Yes. The expansion, the expansion and increase of the voices of the era. The voices of the era. Yeah. The voices of the era. The explosion of their voices Explosion of.
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Their voices in every direction.
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Every direction. Trusting the process. Trusting the process. Trusting the process. Trusting the process. Oh, yes. I believe it. I believe it. Yes.
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No longer going back.
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Thank you. Thank you. This gospel. This gospel of the kingdom. This gospel of the kingdom. Preached in all the world. Preached in all the world. Preached in all the world. Preached in all the world. Preached in all the world. For a witness. Maya.
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Broken chains.
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Broken bondage. Broken.
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Yes.
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Burden. Joy restored.
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They call them supernatural. Supernatural. The turn. There's the turn. You can do that. You can do that. You can make that turn. You can make that. So easy. To make. Make the turn. Make. Make the. Make the. Make the turn. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, father. Thank you, father. Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for thank you for the thank you for the help. Thank you for the helper. Thank you for the helper that lives in them. To see. To see. To see. And to know. To see. To see. Yeah. Yeah. With great clarity.
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We praise you. We magnify.
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We thank you. We thank you. Yeah. For that which you said. That which you said shall come to pass. In greater, greater, greater, greater, greater manifestation.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Oh, my.
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Oh, my.
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Not satisfied.
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Not satisfied.
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Not satisfied. Satisfied with the way things were.
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Not satisfied with the way they've been.
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Fullness. Fullness.
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Yes.
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Fullness. The fullness. The waves. Waves of healing. Waves of healing waves. Waves of health. Healing.
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Healing power. Healing power.
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Oh. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Yes. And all the. All those. All those parts. All those parts.
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Yes.
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All those body parts.
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Oh.
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Oh, body parts.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Hearts.
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Thank you.
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Lungs. Liver. Livers. Oh, my. Oh.
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Organs being renewed.
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I see it.
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Yes.
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I see that.
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Yes. Yes. Limbs.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yep. Growing back out. Growing back out. Growing back out.
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Yeah. Yeah. Whoa.
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Whoa.
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My, my, my. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, thank you. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. My, my, my, my, my. Thank you. Yes. I see. I see. I see. Ha ha ha. Who? My, my, my, my.
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Worship, Worship, worship, worship.
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Yes. I see it. I see it. Heaven open and angels ascending and descending. Ha ha ha. Angels ascending and descending. Yes, but easier today. Easier today than in Jacob's day. Yeah. Hey, hey. Haha. Hey, hey. Ha ha. Hey, hey. Ho ho. We rejoice. We rejoice. We rejoice. We rejoice. We rejoice. We rejoice. We rejoice. Yes. Yes. Yes, yes.
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We draw out. We draw out.
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We draw out. We draw out.
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We draw out.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yes.
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Glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory.
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Yes.
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Glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory. Oh, oh, my, my, oh, my, my. Oh, we praise.
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Oh, we worship you.
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Glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory. Oh, glory to God. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Hallelujah. Glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory. Oh, hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
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Hallelujah.
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Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
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Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
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Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Glory pray. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
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Glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory. Oh, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory. Hallelujah. Glory, glory, glory, glory. Hahaha. Hallelujah.
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Hallelujah.
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Lord. We want to give you praise. Hallelujah. Hallelujah, Lord. We want to give you praise. Hallelujah. Hallelujah, Lord. We want to give you praise. Hallelujah.
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Hallelujah.
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Lord. We want to give you praise.
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Hallelujah.
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Hallelujah, Lord. We want to give you praise. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
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Lord.
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We want to give you praise. You're good, mighty and strong. Lord, I want to bless you all day long. Hallelujah, hallelujah. Lord, I want to give you praise. Sing. Hallelujah, hallelujah. I want to give you praise. Hallelujah, Lord, I want to give you praise. Hallelujah, hallelujah. Lord, I want to give you praise. Hallelujah, hallelujah. Lord, I want to give you praise. You're good, mighty and strong. Lord, I want to bless you all day long. Hallelujah, hallelujah. Lord, I want to give you praise. Hallelujah, hallelujah. Lord, I wanna give you praise. You wanna sing it with us? Hallelujah, hallelujah.
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Lord, I wanna give you praise. Hallelujah, Hallelujah.
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Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Speakers: Joel Siegel, Amy Siegel
Date: September 12, 2022
Theme: The life of continual prayer—its simplicity, power, and necessity for every Christian.
Location: Georgetown, TX, Miracle Crusade 2022
This episode, part three in the “Continuing in Prayer” series, was delivered at the Georgetown Miracle Crusade by guest ministers Joel and Amy Siegel. The central focus is to demystify and reframe the practice of ongoing prayer—not as a heavy spiritual duty but as a continual, life-giving relationship with God. The Siegels share practical wisdom, scriptural backing, and personal stories to illustrate prayer’s ease, necessity, and transformative power, highlighting both the day-to-day fellowship with God and deeper, more intense aspects of intercessory prayer.
The episode is warm and personable, blending practical instruction with humor, personal anecdotes, scriptural teaching, spiritual fervency, and encouragement. Both speakers make a conscious effort to remove the fear or religious heaviness from the concept of ongoing prayer, presenting it as a natural, joyful, and essential part of a Christ-centered life.
This message reframes continual prayer from a weary obligation to a vital, ongoing fellowship—likened to the ease of checking a phone, with the depth and power to birth miracles and transformations. Listeners are urged not to relegate prayer to crisis moments, but to live daily in God’s presence, remain sensitive to the Holy Spirit’s leading, and cooperate “from glory to glory” in simple faith and thanksgiving.
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