Podcast Summary: Divine Compensation | Nancy Dufresne | Holy Ghost Meetings 2022 | Thursday PM
Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Date: January 20, 2022
Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne (with contributions from ministry team)
Episode Theme: The good life and provision found in God’s plan; how “divine compensation” comes from prioritizing obedience to God, not just human effort or financial rewards. The episode includes a mix of teaching, testimony, encouragement, and a ministry time devoted to healing and impartation.
Main Theme / Purpose
Pastor Nancy Dufresne explores the biblical principle that God has prepared a “good life” for each believer, found only by following His plan. She underscores that “divine compensation”—God’s supernatural supply and blessing—flows to those who prioritize God’s purpose above convenience, comfort, or salary. The episode mixes scriptural teaching, personal stories (especially from Ed Dufresne’s life), practical exhortations, and corporate healing ministry, all emphasizing the importance of joyful faith and obedience in accessing God’s best.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. God’s Prearranged Plan and the “Good Life”
- Scripture Foundation (Ephesians 2:10, Amplified Version)
“For we are God’s own handiwork… that we may do those good works which God predestined (planned beforehand)…” (00:16) - Key Insight:
- God has only prepared “the good life” for us—“He didn’t prepare the life of struggle…tragedy. He only prepared one life, the good life.” (01:12)
- God’s plan includes multiple “paths” (plural), so even missed steps aren’t fatal—God can restore and redirect (03:29).
2. Long Life and Blessing Are Tied to God’s Plan
- Quote:
“Long life is connected to his plan. Prosperity is connected to his plan.” (04:09) - Living outside God’s plan offers only natural compensation; following His plan brings divine provision and even health (“the plan of God is your wealthy place…your healthy place”).
3. Ed Dufresne’s Testimony: From Hopelessness to Divine Assignment
- Ed’s Background: Grew up Catholic, struggled with addiction and hopelessness, tried church activities with no transformation (06:25).
- Turning Point:
- A voice tells Ed: “You’re going to go all over the world and preach the gospel.”
- Receives Jesus at a Pentecostal church service—his family’s legacy is rewritten.
- Humility in Service:
- Ed willingly took the lowest jobs (“We don’t have anyone to clean the restrooms…And Ed said, I’m your man.” (09:28))
- “There is nothing that God has any attachment to that is beneath us.” (09:55)
4. Obedience Over Money: The Test of the Plan
- Ed volunteers as a church building foreman; realizes he won’t be paid (11:01).
- “If you will only operate in the plan because money’s attached to it, you’re going to miss the plan.” (11:50)
- Survives on discarded food, works multiple jobs at night, but stays faithful to what God said (12:19–16:39).
5. The Miracle of Divine Compensation
- As Ed honors the plan, God supernaturally opens doors:
- Business owners offer equipment and contracts, building him a cleaning business with 12 employees, enabling him to pay his mortgage and sow into the church (17:30–21:11).
- This provision led to relationships with major ministers (Kenneth Hagin, John Osteen, Kenneth Copeland) and a healing anointing.
- Quote:
“What will you do to honor the plan? If something’s beneath you, you’ll forfeit the plan. Anything to be in the plan.” (15:36)
6. Teaching Divine Compensation to Future Generations
- Nancy shares how her mother taught her the value of obedience over pay—she played the organ for years before ever being paid. Later, she received supernatural scholarships (“divine compensation for five years of being where I ought to be without complaint.” (28:22)).
- She instills this in her children and staff: Obedience is not about the paycheck, but being “where you’re supposed to be because it’s right to be there.” (26:47)
- Quote:
“Don’t complain about where God has you if it doesn’t look like what you think you’re worth. He’s trying to make you worth something more.” (28:52)
7. Faith and Compensation in Ministry
- Leaders must use faith for compensation, not depend solely on organizational payrolls.
- Example: Her children purchased a home worth over $1M with no pay raise—“because he was showing them, I make up the difference.” (33:45)
- “The plan pays me if I’m in the plan and using my faith.” (37:35)
8. Beyond Money: Safety, Health, and Supernatural Deliverance
- Citing Kenneth Hagin: Obedience in the plan enabled supernatural preservation of his son’s life (41:12).
- Stepping outside the plan brings risk; staying in it brings “the good life.”
9. Practical Warnings and Encouragements
- Don’t let money, comfort, or others’ opinions distract from God’s plan.
- Notable Quote:
“If money governs you, you’re not ready for more…If you’re guided by money, life will always be a struggle for you.” (45:57) - God’s plan enables believers to safely steward abundance.
10. Healing Ministry and Testimonies
- Extensive healing prayer and ministry time:
- Specific callouts for cancer, addictions, bones, autoimmune diseases, food allergies, nerves, ears, backs, fertility, eyes, and heart conditions (55:53–94:37).
- Multiple testimonies of instant healing (86:24).
- Encouragement: Divine compensation includes restoration of health, family, and provision. God works creatively and suddenly (“Many times, [divine compensation] shows up as a suddenly.” (49:00))
- Joseph in Egypt: “400 years of back pay in one day. Divine compensation.” (49:00)
11. The Role of Joy in Fulfillment and Acceleration
- Joy is presented as “the divine accelerator” in the plan (112:16):
“If you will step into that joy flow, that joy will propel you forward in the plan.” - Sometimes, what we should do is “rejoice it in, not pray it in.” (112:56)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On obedience and value:
“There is nothing that God has any attachment to that is beneath us.” (09:55)
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On God’s plan:
“The plan of God is your wealthy place. Can I say this? The plan of God is your healthy place.” (04:34)
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About pay and service:
“You’re going to learn that you can do something for your church without expecting compensation for it.” (28:54)
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On leaving God’s plan:
“When you step out of the plan, you step into risk. There’s a risk. But in the plan of God is the good life.” (42:38)
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About being guided by money:
“If you’re guided by money, life will always be a struggle for you. The devil can always poke your button and get you right off the path based on money.” (45:57)
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On joy:
“Joy is a divine accelerator—if you will step into that joy flow, that joy will propel you forward in the plan.” (112:16)
“Sometimes you’re praying about things you should be joying over…Rejoice it in!” (112:56)
Important Timestamps
- 00:16 – Opening exhortation from Ephesians 2:10: “We are God’s own handiwork.”
- 04:09 – “Long life is connected to his plan.”
- 06:25–11:50 – Ed Dufresne’s testimony: salvation, transformation, and call.
- 12:19–21:11 – Ed’s journey through humility, hardship, faithfulness, and eventual supernatural provision.
- 28:22 – Nancy’s story: lessons in obedience and eventually supernatural scholarships.
- 33:45 – Teaching on using faith for provision; story about her children’s house.
- 41:12 – Kenneth Hagin’s testimony about obedience and supernatural protection.
- 45:57 – “If money governs you, you’re not ready for more.”
- 55:53–94:37 – Healing/prayer ministry—various conditions called out; praise and testimonies.
- 112:16 – “Joy is a divine accelerator…joy will propel you forward in the plan.”
- 112:56 – “You’re praying when you should be joying…rejoice it in.”
- 127:56 – Encouragement about joy and establishing the flow of heaven in one’s home.
- 135:19 – Final gratitude for all God has done.
Tone and Style
Lively, faith-filled, and encouraging. Pastor Nancy mixes storytelling, humor, Scripture, and direct exhortation. The healing ministry section is interactive and worshipful, emphasizing testimony and the power of God active in the present. The language is straightforward, warm, and rich in personal and biblical references.
Conclusion
Those who put God’s purpose above personal convenience or compensation—serving, working, and staying in God’s plan with joy—will experience “divine compensation” far beyond human calculation. This includes financial supply, health, deliverance, key relationships, and supernatural favor. Joy is essential to staying aligned and accelerating in God’s plan.
No matter the cost or delay, obeying God is always worth it—God has ways of paying, restoring, and blessing that no paycheck ever could.
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