Podcast Summary: Hear And Be Healed, Part Two | Nancy Dufresne | Jesus The Healer Broadcast

Dufresne Ministries Podcast | April 22, 2019

Overview

In this episode, Pastor Nancy Dufresne expands on the essential link between hearing the Word of God and receiving healing, building on the theme “Hear and Be Healed.” Through teaching rooted primarily in Luke 5:15, Hebrews 12:13, and Mark 4:23–25, she emphasizes the divine order that faith, and thus healing, comes by hearing. Listeners are encouraged to shift their focus from simply seeking healing to prioritizing receptiveness to the Word, maintaining a teachable heart, and protecting their spiritual hearing from doubt and offense.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Importance of Hearing Before Healing (00:17–06:00)

• Biblical Foundation: Nancy refers to Luke 5:15, highlighting that “great multitudes came together to hear and to be healed.”
  • Hearing is not just physical but spiritual—“the ear of your spirit hearing.”
• Divine Order:
  • “Your part is to hear. God’s part is to do the work; His part is to do the power.” (00:59)
  • “God can’t do your hearing for you.”
• Critical vs. Believing Ears:
  • Listeners are cautioned against coming to church with a critical heart.
  • “Critical ears come from a critical heart… Come with believing ears, a believing heart.” (01:20)

2. Hearing as the Access Point for Faith (06:00–12:00)

• Emphasis on Prioritizing Hearing:
  • “Many are occupied with healing when they need to be occupied with hearing, not ‘How can I get hands laid on me more times?’ but ‘Where can I go to hear?’” (07:30)
• Faith is Built by Hearing:
  • The present generation has unprecedented access to the Word (“books, CDs, sermons on YouTube”).
  • “It’s wrong that our faith doesn’t measure up to that opportunity.” (08:46)
• Personal Testimony:
  • Pastor Nancy shares how she immersed herself in Brother Hagin’s tapes to accelerate her spiritual development.
  • “To not hear will stunt your spiritual growth. To increase your hearing will accelerate your spiritual growth.” (09:36)
  • “When your faith grows, your ability to receive from God grows. Why? Because you receive by faith.” (10:16)

3. The Role of Correction in Receiving Healing (12:00–17:00)

• Sometimes, Correction Precedes Healing:
  • Healing may require addressing issues like unforgiveness, offense, or walking in love.
  • “When healing isn’t being received, it’s not always because of a body issue—sometimes it’s a love issue, a forgiveness issue, an offense issue, or even a worry issue.” (13:28)
  • Quote: “To be corrected is not a negative. It is your safety.” (15:49)
• Hebrews 12:13 Reference:
  • Listeners must “make straight paths” by removing hindrances to healing in their lives.

4. The Attitude and Quality of Hearing (17:00–24:00)

• Teachable Spirit Required:
  • Mark 4:23–25 is read from the Amplified.
  • “You have to be teachable if you’re going to be someone who listens… God’s help is to give us the right thing to hear.” (18:53)
• Correction, Not Flattery:
  • “If a man of God loves you… even wonderful things need correction.” (20:06)
  • “It doesn’t matter that you’re hearing if you’re not listening for what needs to change.” (21:22)
• Measuring Power by Hearing:
  • The measure of hearing determines the measure of God’s power received:
    • “You are the one who measures how much the power of God flows into your life.” (22:30)
    • “More correct hearing, more power.” (23:04)
  • Not just healing, but all blessings come through hearing (“They came to hear and prosper; they came to hear and have peace…”).

5. Guarding Your Hearing and Heart (24:00–27:00)

• Be Careful What You Hear:
  • “Be careful what you are hearing. The measure of thought and study you give to the truth you hear will be the measure of virtue or power and knowledge that comes back to you.” (24:10)
  • Negative teaching undermines faith, especially in crisis—only listen to words that affirm God’s will to heal.
• The Heart Determines Hearing:
  • Offense, unforgiveness, and critical hearts distort and hinder receiving.
  • “It’s dangerous to allow yourself to get offended—now nothing you hear goes in right.” (25:41)

6. Case Studies from Jesus’ Ministry (25:52–27:00)

• Nazareth Example:
  • In Jesus’ hometown, offense and unbelief blocked healing (only a few received).
• Crowded House Example:
  • Only one man is healed among many because his heart was open to receive.
  • “If your heart isn’t right, you can’t hear what God is offering you. But when your heart is right, you hear what God is offering you and you receive.” (26:40)

7. Final Encouragements (26:30–27:30)

• Hearing Determines Your Spiritual Inheritance:
  • The devil wants people ignorant of their part in hearing; blessings are not automatic.
  • “All we have to do is hear. Just show up.” (26:55)
  • “These things won’t drop on you automatically. They come to those who move into the ways of God. And the way of God is to hear and be healed.” (27:15)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Divine Order:
  “Your part is to hear. God’s part is to do the power. And can I tell you something fresh? God can’t do your part either. He cannot do your hearing for you.” – Nancy Dufresne (00:59)

• On Access to the Word:
  “This generation has the capacity and opportunity to hear like no other generation… Our faith should be excelling the faith of other generations.” (08:46)

• On Correction as Healing:
  “To be corrected is not a negative. It is your safety.” (15:49)

• On Measuring Power:
  “You are the one who measures how much the power of God flows into your life.” (22:30)

• On Offense and Hearing:
  “It’s dangerous to allow yourself to get offended because now nothing you hear goes in right.” (25:41)

• On Spiritual Responsibility:
  “All we have to do is hear. Just show up.” (26:55)

Important Timestamps

• Main teaching begins: 00:17
• Faith comes by hearing – Divine order: 01:20
• Generation’s opportunity to hear: 08:46
• Role of correction in healing: 13:28
• Mark 4:23–25 on being teachable: 18:53
• Measuring God’s power by hearing: 22:30
• Guarding the heart: 25:41
• Case study – Jesus in Nazareth: 25:52
• Concluding encouragements – Show up and hear: 26:55

Tone & Language

Pastor Nancy’s tone is pastoral, corrective, and encouraging. She provides strong biblical teaching while urging the listener to self-examine, adjust their approach to receiving from God, and take spiritual responsibility for their hearing as the gateway to all blessings, especially healing.

Summary Takeaway

The episode teaches that God’s healing power flows through a “pipeline of faith” that starts with hearing. Listeners must actively value, seek, and guard their hearing of the Word, allow correction, and remain teachable—because every spiritual breakthrough, healing included, is connected to the quality and content of what is heard, received, and believed. The divine order is: hear first, then be healed.