Podcast Summary: “How To Keep Your Healing, Part 4”

Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Host: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Date: May 11, 2023
Episode Theme: Continuing the teaching series “How to Keep Your Healing,” Pastor Nancy Dufresne explores practical, faith-based strategies for holding fast to healing after it’s received, emphasizing the active role believers play in maintaining the manifestation of health.

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode focuses on the biblical foundations and practical steps for keeping one’s healing after it has been received. Pastor Nancy Dufresne discusses the believer's active responsibility, the importance of right thinking and confession, and the need to resist the enemy’s attempts to bring back symptoms or doubt. Through scriptural references and real-life examples, she aims to equip listeners to make healing a permanent reality in their lives.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

The Necessity of Holding Fast to Healing (00:09 – 05:00)

Emphasizes that receiving healing is just the beginning; holding onto healing requires active participation and faith.
Quote: “No matter what method you received healing through, you’re still going to have to be the one to hold fast to it by yourself.” (00:47, B)
Others can support you in faith but cannot substitute your own stand.

The Tactics of the Enemy and Our Response (05:00 – 08:00)

The enemy tries to bring back familiar conditions or symptoms to trick believers into thinking they've lost their healing.
Quote: “We are the healed. We are the healed. The day you were born again, you moved into that position.” (02:01, B)
Running symptoms and pain off requires resisting their return and refusing to let sickness “squat” on your health.

The Role of Knowledge and the Word (08:00 – 10:20)

Healing must be accompanied by an ongoing commitment to teaching and preaching; ignorance opens the door to the devil.
Quote: “Ignorance opens the door to the devil. The devil’s counting on ignorance to gain entrance.” (09:05, B)
To keep healing, value not just the miracle, but also continual intake and meditation on the Word.

What It Means to “Hold Fast” (10:20 – 14:30)

References 1 Thessalonians 5:21 (“Hold fast that which is good”) and Revelation 3:11 (“Hold that fast which thou hast”) to show that maintaining good things is not automatic.
Believers have the position of wholeness because of Christ.
Quote: “Although Satan is defeated, he’s not yet imprisoned. He’s still on the earth. That’s why we hold fast.” (12:15, B)
The enemy's main weapon is suggestion; resisting him means believing and declaring God’s Word above all else.

The Good Fight of Faith (14:30 – 17:00)

The fight of faith is a “fight of words” — never believe your feelings, reasoning, or any outside voices above God’s Word.
Continually confess God’s Word, resisting negative thoughts and threats.
Quote: “The only power the devil has left … is that of suggestion. … That’s all he’s got left is his tongue.” (15:45, B)
The difference between “get” and “got” in healing (“I’m not trying to get healing. I’ve got healing.”)

The Power of Confession and the High Priest Role of Jesus (17:00 – 21:30)

Speaking God’s Word keeps the door open for His power to operate; believing you’re already healed is key.
Jesus as High Priest is “listening for us”—our words give Him permission to fulfill His role on our behalf.
Scriptures Used:
- Hebrews 4:14 (“Let us hold fast our profession”)
- Hebrews 10:23 (“Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering”)
Quote: “He cannot be the high priest of a wrong confession. … Talk the Word.” (20:34, B)

Real-Life Example: The Blind Woman Healed (21:30 – 23:45)

Story of a woman instantly healed of blindness, who lost her sight again but kept proclaiming “Thank God I’m the healed” for three weeks until her sight returned.
Key lesson: The fight isn’t just for a moment — “holding fast is the way we live.”
Memorable Moment: “She just kept holding fast. That was holding the door open for the great high priest…” (22:35, B)

The Example of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego (23:45 – 26:00)

Even when things got worse, they refused to compromise. Their unrelenting profession of faith made the king doubt his own strategy, not theirs.
Quote: “Make him [the devil] question his devices. Don’t make his devices make you question God or the Word.” (25:19, B)
Their stand changed a nation.

Notable Quotes and Moments

On maintaining healing:
“We’re not trying to get healed. We are the healed. … You have to hold to it. Why? Because Satan comes to steal, kill and destroy.” (01:27, B)
On the role of knowledge:
“Ignorance is expensive. Gaining knowledge will cost you something, but ignorance is far more expensive — it’ll cost you everything.” (09:17, B)
On standing firm:
“Never believe anything more than you believe what God says.” (13:12, B)
On the enemy’s remaining power:
“The only power the devil has left … is that of suggestion. … That’s all he’s got left is his tongue.” (15:45, B)
On faith and confession:
“It’s not your faith that heals you, it’s God’s power that heals you. But faith opens the door for the power of God to heal.” (16:56, B)
On holding fast as a lifestyle:
“Holding fast is our lifestyle. It’s the flow of faith. And we just hold fast.” (18:54, B)
Encouragement:
“You’ll change your entire household, your future generations, when you know how to hold fast.” (25:50, B)

Important Timestamps

00:09 – Introduction to episode’s theme; importance of holding fast to healing
02:00 – “You are the healed” positional teaching
09:05 – Destructiveness of ignorance; valuing teaching and the Word
12:15 – Why we must hold fast even though Satan is defeated
15:45 – The power of suggestion: the devil’s only remaining tool
17:00 – The power of speaking/confessing the Word
20:34 – Jesus as High Priest of our confession; He cannot fulfill a wrong confession
21:58 – Testimony of the woman healed of blindness
23:45 – Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego: holding fast under pressure

Final Takeaways

Maintaining healing is an ongoing, participatory process.
Continual knowledge of and confession of God’s Word is crucial.
Faith and confession are a lifestyle, not a one-time event.
The only power the enemy has is suggestion; resist with right believing and right speaking.
Jesus, our High Priest, responds to the faith-filled words we speak.

Closing encouragement:
“It is our privilege to hold fast. … We must become skillful with the victory that’s ours.” (25:56, B)

Transcript

A (0:00)

Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message.

B (0:09)

Welcome. We are so glad to have you with us today for Jesus the Healer. Come on in. We saved you the best spot, you say. Well, where is it? It's right in front of your screen. So get a notepad and get a pencil or paper or something, some kind of device. Get your Bible, but bring your faith and take notes on what God would say to you. It's important that we receive our healing. But I tell you, after we receive, as that healing is manifested in our body, we have to know how to hold fast to our healing, how to keep your healing. Amen. So this is what we're teaching on right now. We invite you go back, watch previous episodes. No matter what method you received healing through, you're still going to have to be the one to hold fast to it by yourself. Amen. Now, somebody else may join their faith as they're helping you hold fast, but they can't substitute for you not holding fast. You can't turn your healing over to somebody else to hold to. You have to hold to it. Why? Because Satan comes to steal, kill and destroy. And he will launch counterattacks against us with pains and symptoms, the old familiar conditions. Trying to come back on us, trying to get somebody to be duped, Right? Yeah. Thinking that they're now again sick. Well, you are the healed. You're not trying to get healed. You are the healed. And we're running sickness off our health. No, you don't. We're running symptoms off. We're running pain off. No, you don't. You're not taking mine. It's not trying to get it. Not trying to get that healing. We are the healed. We are the healed. We are the healed. The day you were born again, you moved into that position. You are the healed. I don't care if you've been. If you've had pain and symptoms for 30 years, you're still the healed, just like you're the saved. That's right. It's the same thing. And we're running symptoms off. We're running pain off. We're running conditions off. And how do we do that? Through what we say. Amen. We have to believe the right thing, say the right thing. But the devil will try to. Those symptoms will try to come back to try to dupe us into thinking we're sick. No, we're not sick. We're the healed. We are the healed. And we're keeping those Things off. And so we have to resist them so they don't come back and infringe on. No squatters, on our health. Amen. No sickness, squatting on our health. Amen. We keep it off. But if we're going to maintain healing that has been received and what I'm talking about, when that healing is in manifestation, you have received a manifestation of that healing. The devil tries to bring back old things. Tries to bring. But to keep him off, you have to do something. You have to do something. Well, God, you may say, well, God's the one that keeps them off. Only your invitation. Amen. God does not bypass us in this life of health. We have a role that's included in it. It's his power that does the work. But we have to leave the door open for his power to work. The Word tells us Jesus went everywhere teaching, preaching and healing. Teaching, preaching and healing. It's a package deal. They go together. So notice this. To arrive at healing, you got to go through the teaching and the preaching. Amen. To receive that well, to hold fast to your healing, you need to go through the teaching and the preaching. You need to be taught. We need to hear the Word taught. We need to hear the Word preached. What's that mean? We don't just value healing. We value the Word. We value hearing the Word. We value meditating on the Word. We value speaking the Word. We value doing the Word. Because when we are doers of the Word, when we know what the Word says, the devil cannot overthrow us. Those who don't know what the Word says, when they're not taught the Word, they're easily overthrown. So to keep your healing, you have to be taught the Word. So when you, once you receive healing, that's not the time to sit back and relax and go, I'm done. Everything's as it should be. Well, for it to stay as it should be, you have to know something. When Jesus went everywhere teaching, preaching and healing, and we know this, Isaiah, excuse me, Hosea, in chapter four, verse six, said this, my people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge. So what is that? Ignorance opens the door to the devil. The devil's counting on ignorance to gain entrance. So when Jesus went everywhere teaching and preaching the Word as well as healing, but he taught it and he preached it first, what was he doing? He was running ignorance out. He went everywhere running out ignorance, teaching, preaching and healing. Amen. So we have to value that Word then. The enemy can't steal from us when we know the right thing. Ignorance is expensive. Gaining Knowledge will cost you something, but ignorance is far more expensive. It'll cost you. It can cost you everything. So thank God for the Word. We were looking, as we finished up on the previous episode, we were looking at first Thessalonians, chapter 5, verse 21. That tells us, hold fast that which is good. So what this shows us is good things are not automatic. They have to be held fast to. Then Revelations chapter 3, verse 11 says, hold that fast which thou hast. I like the wording there. Which thou hast. Because you're born again. You have healing, you have wholeness, you have health. I don't care what your body's doing. That's your position. You have the healed position. You have the whole position. W H O L E. The wholeness. The position of wholeness is ours. Why? Because healing is ours. So we're holding fast to that. And when symptoms come, we say, no, you don't. Because why? We're holding fast to what we already have. Meaning we already have these things, but we have to run off that we have allowed to be squatters and have interfered with what we have. Amen. Resist the devil and he will flee from you is what James 4, verse 7 tells us. Many think this since Jesus. Because we know this. Jesus defeated Satan, stripped him of his authority over us, of his power over us, reduced him to nothing, took him all the way down below zero. So he is a defeated foe. And people will say, if Satan is defeated, then how come I have to hold fast to my healing? Why can't I just receive my healing and then hold fast to it? Because although Satan is defeated, he's not yet imprisoned. He's still on the earth. He's still trying to deceive, steal things from us, because he's not yet imprisoned. One day he will be imprisoned and he will lose all contact with humanity. But today, but in the present, he is still in contact with humanity. That's why we hold fast. That's why we hold fast. So we fight the good fight of faith. What is the good fight of faith? It includes a fight of words. It includes a fight of not believing feelings more than you believe what God says. Never believe anything more than you believe what God says. Amen. You get that? Never believe anything more than you believe what God says. Don't believe your body more than you believe what God says. Don't believe your loved ones more than you believe what God says. Don't even believe your own mind's reasonings more than you believe what God says. Amen. Amen. So the Good fight of faith to fight it. It's a fight of words holding to what God says when the thoughts bombard the mind. You've been this way a long time. It'll never get better. Oh, no, you don't. Oh no, you don't. You answer things, you answer wrong words. That's called fighting the good fight of faith. Continually say what God's word says about your healing, regardless of thoughts that the enemy threatens you with. The only power the devil has left since Jesus stripped him, the only power he has left is that of suggestion. Talking, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. That's all he's got is left is his tongue. And with his talk he tries to deceive you out of what's yours. So regardless, regardless of what comes against you, continually say what God's word says about your healing. Regardless of the thoughts, regardless of the threats, regardless of the symptoms you may feel in your body. No matter what you feel, you are still to believe. I'm still the healed. I don't care what I feel. I am still the healed. I don't have to get healing. I am the healed. I've got healing. These two words are important. Get or got. One letter makes the difference. One letter so slight. It's the little foxes that spoil the bind. That one little letter is going to mean a difference in how you treat that and how you think. I've got to get healing. I got to get. No, you don't. You've got healing. It's get the E out of the get and get the O in the got you've got. Those things have to be in the right form. I'm not trying to get healing. I've got healing. So because I got it, devil, you, you don't. So get off what I got. Get off what I've got. Amen. So you have to confess that you have got it. And once that's in manifestation, like I said, we're trying to teach you how to keep your healing. You have to confess. You have to confess God's word. That's how you release your faith. That's how you keep that door open to the power of God. It's not your faith that heals you, It's God's power that heals you. But faith opens the door for the power of God to heal. So after healing is received, keep that door open. How do you keep that door open? Keep speaking the word that the confession of it keeps the door open. Now go with me to Hebrews chapter 4. In verse 14, I want us to read this. Hebrews 4, verse 14 reads, seeing then that we have a great high priest. I like that. Jesus is called the great high priest. I like that word, great. What's that mean? He's excellent at his. At his role. He's excellent in his performance as high priest. He's a great one. Seeing then that we have a great high priest that is passed into the heavens. Jesus, the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession, or that word is also confession. Our profession of what? Our confession of what? Of what God said. Of what God has made ours. Notice this. We have to pay attention to this phrase. We have a great high priest, the Son of God. Then look at this. Let us. We have something to do with this. Now it's not enough that he's there as high priest. We have to do something because he's there as high priest. Verse 15. For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities, but was in all points tempted, like as we are, yet without sin. So what's this mean? He faced everything you're facing and never failed. Right? That's right. We are not going to enjoy God's best because we've done everything right. We're going to enjoy God's best because he did everything right. Amen. And that's why he's a great high priest. He's done everything right. So because he has done everything right, let us hold fast. Let us hold fast to our profession or confession. What is our confession? No. Jesus won me my victory. Devil, you get off. Jesus made me the heel. Get off. Jesus made my body whole. Get off. Hold fast to that confession. And I'm talking to people that have already been healed, not in fear of it being lost. Listen, I'm going to tell you something. Not fearful that it'll be lost, but just what are you doing? You're occupying. You're occupying that victory ground by saying, oh, it's so good to be healed. It's so good to be healed. It's so good to be healed. So it's not trying to get him healed or trying to get him to heal. It's not trying to keep. If I could say this, it's not trying to keep the devil off. It's just always having the right words in your mouth. So when he shows up, you're already saying the right thing. Listen, when you walk by faith every day, you don't have to change anything. When the devil shows up, you're already in faith. Make faith your lifestyle. Amen. Then he cannot overthrow you. You can't stop him from showing up. But you can already be in the right flow. And it won't be but a moment that it takes for him to flee once you resist him. When you're living a life of faith, a life of saying the right things, saying the word of God. Amen. Now it calls Jesus the High priest. As our high priest. He's listening. He's listening for us, as we said, seeing that we have a great high priest, Jesus, the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. So notice our High Priest is listening for us. That's why he's telling us, let us hold fast because he's listening to us. What we're saying gives him permission to fulfill what we confess. Amen. Amen. Because he is the high priest of our confession. What's that mean? He's going to see to it that what we confess comes to pass. God will not force himself on anyone. That's why we have to hold fast our profession or confession of the word. Because our confession of faith invites him to work in our behalf. Amen. Hebrews 10:23. Just six chapters later, we still have this instruction to us. Hebrews 10:23. Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering. Why? For he's faithful. That promise he'll do his part. When we do our part, we open the door for him to do his part. So when what is our part is holding fast to saying what God says in the face of opposition. And then when we do our part, that that opens the door for him to keep being that faithful high priest. He's a faithful high priest, but it gives him something to fulfill what we say. If we don't say it, he can't fulfill it. That's why he's telling us, let us hold fast. Amen. No matter what the circumstances, our feelings, the symptoms in our body, we're to continue to say what the Word says. Don't confess and talk about the problem. Because he cannot be the high priest of a wrong confession. He cannot be the high priest of something that is not in the Word. Amen. Talk the Word. Don't talk about and hash and rehash the problems and the situations. Talk about and confess the Word and what God's provided. Years ago, a woman had hands laid on her by a leading evangelist that had a strong healing ministry. And she instantly received her sight. She was born blind and she would have been in her 40s, 40s or 50s when this minister laid hands on her. And she instantly received her sight. So can you imagine what that. What life was like for her? After several days, she began losing sight. She fought the good fight of faith as her sight was getting weaker and weaker and weaker. She fought the good fight of faith by holding to what God said. And for the next three weeks, not only did her sight get worse, she went back completely blind. Over the next three weeks. And the entire time it looked like it was getting worse. And the entire time that it looked like she was back to complete darkness again. She said, thank God I'm the healed. What was she doing holding fast when it looked like it was getting worse, she just kept holding fast. Why? Because that was holding the door open for the great high priest to make sure that what she confessed was fulfilled in her See, we're pretty good at holding fast for about half a day. No, holding fast is the way we live. It's the way we live.