Dufresne Ministries Podcast

Episode: Joel & Amy Siegel | Wednesday AM | Fredonia, NY | Miracle Crusade 2021
Date: August 21, 2021
Host/Ministers: Joel Siegel, Amy Siegel
Theme: Moving from Bedtime Prayers to End-Time Prayers—Becoming Proficient in Prayer and the Flow of Miracles

Episode Overview

This Miracle Crusade morning session, led by Joel and Amy Siegel, centers on the maturing of Christian prayer life, pressing into God's plan, and learning to cooperate with the supernatural flow of miracles. The ministers call for a shift from self-focused "bedtime prayers" to powerful, effective "end-time prayers" that facilitate God's will in this generation. The service weaves teaching, testimony, humor, and moments of corporate prayer, contending for a visible, tangible flow of God's glory, healing, and revival.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Value of Corporate Gathering & Presence (00:10–06:26)

• Joel Siegel opens by reminiscing about past revivals, the importance of being present where God moves, and the danger of substituting online convenience for corporate gathering.
• "It's easy to substitute that for being somewhere. And really, I just want us to have to renew our minds to the fact that you ought not to be able to come five minutes before service and find a seat. Right?... There are impartations that God has for your life. Some of them can be experienced to a degree online. But not all of it. Not all of it." (B, 04:02)
• He uses humor and practical stories to emphasize that spiritual hunger should be visible and costly, not casual.

2. "Getting a Taste" of God—Spiritual Hunger (06:29–08:25)

• Drawing from both pop culture and Hebrews, Joel uses the metaphor of "getting a taste" of God's presence.
• "Once you really get a taste of the things of God, you're done. You're wrecked. There's no turning back. One good taste and bless God, as long as I'm on this planet, I aim to be a dealer..." (B, 07:17)
• The analogy is that as people taste and experience God's power, they are compelled to share it.

3. Skillful Praise & Thanksgiving as Prayer (08:48–12:04)

• Reflection on the previous meetings, focusing on praise as the "highest form of prayer."
• Relates the multiplication of loaves and fishes to the multiplication of God's power experienced during corporate praise.
• "We have very narrow definitions of, of things like miracles and healings... We want to cooperate with every way that God's power flows. And that's one of them." (B, 09:48)

4. Progressing in Prayer: From "Bedtime" to "End-Time" (12:04–19:03)

• Amy Siegel discusses her experience of God instructing her to "become proficient in prayer" even after decades in ministry.
• "The Spirit was rebuking me. Why? Because I wasn't yet proficient... we're all supposed to mature not just in our Christian character, and... knowledge of the word, but in prayer, in flowing in kingdom business, helping accomplish the end times plan that God has for the earth." (A, 13:03)
• She introduces Matthew 6:33 (MSG): "Steep your life in God reality, God initiative, God provisions..." and unpacks the analogy of steeping tea—infusing and transforming every area with God’s realities.
• Amy: "How do we progress further in the things of prayer? Steep your life in God realities." (A, 15:34)

5. The Mature Christian Prayer Life (19:03–39:41)

• Joel builds on "proficiency" in prayer, teaching from 1 Peter 4:7.
• Difference between "bedtime prayers" (self-focused) and "end-time prayers" (God's-plan-focused).
  • "Bedtime prayers try to move God. End time prayers facilitate the move of God." (B, 23:19)
  • "Bedtime prayers amplify the distance between God and man. ... End time prayers focus on the union between God and man." (B, 32:13)
• Rebukes reactive/emergency-only prayer and encourages proactivity and sensitivity to God’s leading.
• Testimony: Joel shares a personal health scare where God's leading, through Amy, preempted crisis due to obedience and practical wisdom, demonstrating how being proactive in prayer and following God’s direction averted disaster and led to a miracle recovery.
  • "I got victory. I'm here and I'm, I'm just, you know, 100% and every time they check me, it's zero. Like there's nothing there so far. That's God. That's God." (B, 31:24)
• Emphasizes hearing from God over tradition, and how being plan-focused brings personal provision and protection as a byproduct.

6. Cooperating with God in Prayer—Making Power Accessible (39:41–57:50)

• Joel unpacks James 5:16 (Amplified), focusing on the "effectual, fervent prayer" of the righteous:
  • "The energy generating, the power generating act of prayer brings great power and strength on the scene." (B, 41:15)
  • "Effectual fervent prayer brings God's power to a place of easy accessibility—where you can easily lay hold of it..." (B, 41:56)
• Urges the people to contend for a powerful, tangible atmosphere, where God's glory and miracles overflow into the wider community, not confined to the building.
• Gives examples from past revivals (Azusa Street) and Kenneth Hagin’s ministry where power was so strong people encountered God outside the meeting place.
• Points to responsibility resting on the congregation:
  • "We understand that there's responsibility attached to it, not just from the minister. There's responsibility attached to it from us. And the kind of responsibility is prayer." (B, 46:37)

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On the difference in prayer mentalities:
  "Bedtime prayers are self-focused. End time prayers are plan-focused, God-focused." (B, 22:04)
• On God's will and provision:
  "You're not trying to get anything from God that he doesn't already want for you more than you want it." (B, 24:44)
• On power-filled prayer:
  "Effectual, fervent prayer... brings God's power to a place of easy accessibility. ...You can easily lay hold of it, quickly tap into it..." (B, 41:56)
• Joel on being a dealer of God’s presence:
  "As long as I'm on this planet, I aim to be a dealer... why can't we just do that? Get a taste. Get hooked. Give other people some samples and bring them on." (B, 07:18)
• On miracles now:
  "I'm not willing to not see that in our day... That's for now. Let's make it easily accessible, so people get saved when they didn't mean to. People get healed when they weren't really sure about it." (B, 52:19)
• On responsibility for revival:
  "When he said it, he released it. But that doesn't mean anybody will ever benefit from it. What God gives must be received." (B, 45:59)

Important Timestamps & Segments

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:09 | Opening praise, encouragement to value corporate gatherings | | 06:29 | "Once you get a taste" metaphor on hunger for God | | 08:48 | Teaching on praise & thanksgiving as miracle conduits | | 12:04 | Amy introduces the theme: moving from bedtime to end-time prayers | | 14:41 | Matthew 6:33 (MSG): "Steep your life in God realities" | | 19:03 | 1 Peter 4:7: Be sober and devoted to prayer | | 23:19 | Bedtime vs. end-time prayers: difference in focus & effect | | 29:14 | Testimony: Joel describes his health miracle guided by God's leading | | 39:41 | Exegesis of James 5:16: Effectual, fervent (energema) power-generating prayer | | 46:37 | The responsibility of the church in stewarding the move of God's Spirit | | 54:00 | Flowing into prayer and declarations about miracles, healing waves, laborers | | 65:03 | Prophetic declarations: "Severed spines realigned, missing limbs coming out" | | 67:21 | "The waves of glory"—corporate decrees and expectation for revival | | 70:26 | Decreeing "a time of miracles... it's the hour, it's now" |

Prophetic & Prayer Flow Highlights

• Declarative, corporate prayer (54:00–72:00):
  • Calls for the release of “waves of glory” and healing “demonstrations.”
  • Specific decrees: “Severed spines, realigned. Missing limbs coming forth. … We call for those who are supposed to come…”
  • Emphasis: God’s miraculous power being accessible for the harvest, both inside and outside church walls.
  • Expectation of signs, wonders, and tangible changes in the region.

Conclusion and Call to Action

The session calls listeners to:

• Value and prioritize being where God's Spirit moves corporately.
• Transition their prayer lives from self-oriented to God’s purpose–oriented.
• Become “proficient” in prayer—pressing into the Word, sensitivity to the Spirit, and facilitating God’s plan.
• Expect and contend for miracles now, making God’s power readily accessible through corporate unity and fervent prayer.

"It's a time of miracles. It's the time, it's the time, it's now, it's now, it's now... Oh hallelujah. Oh we expect to see your glory. Your glory is here. Glory."
(C, 70:26)

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