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Morgan Dufresne | Paducah, Kentucky | JTH Crusades 2025 | Thursday AM
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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. Go with me, if you would, to Matthew 4, verse 1. And I was thinking this morning about how the night meetings, the ministry has been so sweet, so, so sweet. And the mornings have been so clear, clear and direct and just the different dynamic, the different facets of God and how we've got to be bold and we've got to be direct with our approach with saying no. My husband said yesterday, no deal. No deal, no compromise. And you're authorized to just say, no deal. And I don't care how many people you've seen compromise, how many people in your life have compromised. You can say no deal, not here. And you are in the driver's seat of your own life. Amen. But here In Matthew chapter 4, in verse 1, Stephen went here yesterday and it says, then was Jesus led up of the spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. And when he had fasted 40 days and 40 nights, he was afterward, afterward unhungered. And when the tempter came to him, he said, if thou be the son of God, command that these stones be made to bread. But he answered and said, let's see if it was a woman. She just said, I already have bread back in the cave. Or I've been lemon, I don't need your help. I have my snacks, thank you very much. And I'm. They're long lasting. They'll pack. I packaged them so that they'll last till the end of the 40 days. Because we plan properly for everyone in the family, right? And it was the boy's mama that gave him that. Yeah, it was the boy's mama that gave him that lunch she prepared. You should see us before a meeting. You know what? It's the last day. We make a list. I make a list for the kids. And Kennedy back there, she's on that camera all week. She comes over and she kind of helps because I get myself packed. And you know, ladies, we have way more. It's not just we have more stuff, we have more little items. Right? We know that there's a lot of little items you have to remember to pack and to get put in the suitcases. And then you got the kids. You gotta make sure each child has the shoes, the play shoes. You know, you're gonna go to Pastor Cody's, make sure you got dirty shoes, make sure, you know, you. I mean, we're going through the week and you're making sure. You got everything that you need? And Kiki comes and she kind of helps the kids with the list that I've made. And then I come in and look over everything. And so, you know, it's a full day process getting everything. And then my husband shows up, throws his suitcase down, and in 10 minutes, he's got underwear, socks, few pairs of pants, suits, and we're done. But. This week, after, I got everybody. Get everybody together. Two women getting everybody together. Get the dogs. I have to get the dogs where they need to go. One goes to one person's house, one goes to another. Kitchen's, you know, fridge is cleaned out, so food doesn't get rotten. And you go on through all the checklists. Right. Somebody forgot their dress shirts. I'm not attacking. I'm not attacking. I'm just saying. But you know what he normally does? We work together. And he'll come and he'll say. And I love it because he'll say, just check me. Make sure, you know, we kind of walk each other. Check me. Okay. You got your dress socks. You got this, you got that. This one time. He didn't ask me to help him check him. He didn't. And you know what? We came up with a solution. Thank God you have J.C. penney. We love JCPenney, and we got the shirt. But I just want you to know, ladies, I hear how you and I know what it takes to keep everybody together and everybody packed and everybody. Yes. But you know what? Without his love and support, I couldn't do it. He's a. He's a. Actually my husband. He is such a good husband, and he has always been. I'm not backtracking. I'm not backtracking. You forgetting your shirts doesn't have anything to do with you being a good husband. He took it personal. That's okay. He wants to take me and drop me back off at Florida. Yeah, yeah. He's a good. He's a good husband. In fact, he's so. He's a very organized. He keeps a lot of the ministry organized, departments organized. Everybody together and organized. A lot of men, you know, wives do that. But he's the one that really keeps things in order around our home. And. And so I'm very grateful. Cause he brought me up when I came from Florida. I was like a feral cat, you know, very feral. Just very much wandering and just. Yeah. No system, no nothing. And he was like, uh, girl, that ain't gonna work. I was. Stayed out late, you know, just. We just. We were just whatever Will be, will be. And that didn't work in the ministry. So he really brought me up in my thinking, really. He made sure we had a lot of heated discussions, but he was trying to help me. He really was trying to help me. And he did help me. But Matthew 4, here's Jesus. Here's Jesus, and he's got this question, if thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made to bread. But he answered and said, it is written, man shall not live by bread alone. But every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. And we really focus on the fact that he answered each one of these with the Word. And that's one of the key elements to this story. But something stood out to me in this because we have been going in this direction of who we are in Christ. Pastor Nancy ministered last couple nights ago on the love of God, understanding his love for us as his children and that flow and the really the power behind that flow of the love of God and that we're not working for anything. We're not trying to hustle for anything. We don't have to, you know, our kids, they. He talk about they have to convince you to buy something stupid for them. And you go, that is just so foolish, you know, But God sees all of our needs and is interested that we bring our hearts to desire and our request to him as his children. But here I had never really paid attention, but notice that the devil didn't come to tempt him on the basis of him being the Messiah or the Savior. He came and said, if you're the Son of God, he was tempting him on the basis of him being God's son. When if you're going to be the Messiah and be the Savior, see the Devil, he's most interested in attacking and questioning your sonship, not just your salvation. If you're solid in your sonship, then salvation, everything that came with salvation is easy. So he didn't come and say, if you're the Messiah, turn this bread, turn this stone into bread. He said, if you're a son, if you're a son, see that? If you're the Son of God, he's wanting to dismantle your sonship mindset. You see that? So he was coming and questioning him. If you're really the son, he wanted him to prove the devil will always want you to try to prove that God loves you, that you're his child, and that you are just as love as somebody else. And that he, you know what? Because he wants you to look at what somebody else has and how quickly they were, you know, the manifestation happened for them. And question, why doesn't it work for me? Why hasn't it happened? Well, if you were really someone that God really loved, it would have already. He really is looking to dismantle a sonship mindset. That's what he wanted Jesus to prove. If you're the Son, not if you're the Messiah, not if. If you're that one that the prophets have been talking about that's been showing up. Prove me now. Prove this. He wanted to question, are you the son he was coming to attack or tempt on the basis of sonship, not on the basis of redemption and who he was gonna be as a savior. He wasn't interested in the Savior. He wanted him as the son and the child of God. The devil is interested in you, not he. Can you. You can sit and listen to preaching all day long about what redemption has provided you? All day. I'm healed. I've been delivered, I've been saved, I've been, you know, I'm going to heaven. And. And the devil is okay with all of that being said as long as you don't see all of that and have the revelation through the eyes of I am in Christ and I'm a child of God. He's okay because that is the foundation and the basis of everything that we have been provided in salvation. Because when we hear what's been provided, if we don't realize that by God's grace and his love for us, that we can just reach out and take it, we're still going to try to work through faith to get those things that. That have been provided through salvation. Does that make sense? So he's wanting to dismantle a sonship mindset and a child of God. That mindset, that floor. And you say it can't be that simple. It is that simple. It is so simple that one son gave birth to many to be brought into the family. That's what was lost, was fellowship in the garden. Not just provision, not just wholeness, not just, you know, peace. Fellowship was lost. You can't tell me my parents aren't who my parents are. Why? Because I had so many years of fellowship through sonship, we could say that. You can't ever talk me out. They were there. This is why and how you can have a child who maybe got adopted by one parent, and they'll call that parent, even though they're not biologically their parent, they'll call him my dad. Why? Because the Fellowship was so intimate and so close. You can't talk them out of. That's my dad. For them, blood has nothing to do with it because the fellowship was there. So that's what's going to hold us to this side. Sonship, mindset and understanding. And really the revelation that will flow from the inside is the fellowship. You can't just confess your way into a sonship relationship. You have to fellowship your way. It's not through confession. It's not through. Now we establish that through I'm a child of God. I am Jesus. Like Pastor Nancy said that Brother J said. Jesus loved Jesse. Jesus sure loves me so much. God sure loves me so much. He is so mindful of my every need. So what are we doing? We're encouraging ourselves. We're writing those things. As my father in law used to say, we're writing that on our heart. But it's already an established fact in heaven. It's already established. So do you see? Even Jesus was tempted on the basis of being a son. So you can hear all the revelation. We can this week walk out with all this revelation and the boldness to answer symptoms, to answer sickness, to know that we have already been made healed. But if we don't establish within ourselves that we are children born of a loving father with the gift of healing, the gift of righteousness freely given to us, the gift of provision already made, already given, that we can just reach out and receive it by faith. Amen. So, number one, he was tempted on the basis on the grounds. He was tempted on the grounds of his relationship, not what he was gonna do. You see that, not how he could prove his deity. He was tempted on the basis of his relationship and fellowship with God. Number two, he also, the devil, also wanted him to act outside of God's, his relationship with God, so that he could prove something outside of that relationship. This is oftentimes where we get tempted and we get pushed, you know, is that we're trying to prove something. Well, if I don't receive this, then what is it gonna look like if I can't get my healing? He's wanting you. You know what? If you could just get up and make it happen, then it'll show how much God loves you. Then you can prove to every. You're just even trying to prove to yourself, God loves me. He wanted him to work outside of that relationship with God. Nothing can be accomplished except through him and in him. Amen. But. This is what the spirit of God said. Temptation. The temptation was not about salvation, but about Sonship. The act of redeeming was for us to have a dwelling place in him, not just what redemption could provide. It was all about that dwelling place with him in it. Pastor Nancy referenced that in him in Acts 17. In him I live and move and have my being. So we were meant to be in that close fellowship with Him. This is why those that were so caught up with the law, this is what they couldn't understand. They could not understand fellowship and sonship. They couldn't grasp it. We have to be careful that we don't slip into that law legalistic mentality. You know, I just hadn't done enough. I hadn't prayed enough, I haven't quoted enough. I haven't done, you know, I missed, you know, Brother Stephen. I see what he was saying and how I've been just letting things. I've been compromising for so long. And we think we have to have this proving period of not compromising. You know, I've been letting somebody drive the seat, you know, drive the car of my life. I've been letting the devil drive. So what, once you get back in that driver's seat with your faith, it's all over, right? You start running that junk over, deliberately running over that opposition so you don't have to have. This isn't driver's ed where you have to prove yourself in the driver's seat. You know what I mean? You're there. Get back in that driver's seat. I have the authority. This is mine, given to me. God gave me this car of my life, and he is anointed me as his. Not because of salvation, because I'm his child. Salvation just brought me back to being his child. That was the whole point. Not with salvation, but to become back to back in that fellowship and being a child of God. Amen. And that's what the religious leaders, they could not understand is how do you have this type of relationship with God? Because you didn't do what everybody. You didn't do all the legal things, make all the requirements. God wants your fellowship with him to be close, to be intimate. You remember the woman? I dare not go there out of reverence. But Second Kings, right, The Second Kings, Second Debbie and the woman and her child. She wanted to have a child. She made a room for the prophet, right? Pastor Debbie of the Old Testament, and she makes this room for the prophet because she sees him continually passing by and she wants to honor him. And so he would stay at her home in this room and have this place, and she would make meals for him. And you can imagine all the things that he was able to be blessed by by her staying there, her and her husband providing for him in his journey. And so what happened? He says, what do you want? What's the desire of your heart? And she said, I've never had a child. So she has a child. Once that child is older, the child becomes sick. And when that child becomes sick, because I love this, because of her relationship with the prophet, she wasn't gonna talk to anyone else except the prophet. You know why she was so bold to go to the prophet? Because she had had a relationship. And fellowship. That is a key factor. And really, I think a demonstration of how we are supposed to be in approaching the throne of God. But why was she bold? Because she hosted and welcomed and fellowshipped with the prophet, her and her husband, on a regular basis. Why do we lack the boldness to go to the throne of God when we have need? Where was the fellowship? The days and the months leading up, where were we fellowshipping when everything was good? What were we fellowshipping with? And then everything turned south. See, when everything was good, she was still giving of every bit of her resources to take care of the prophet and to fellowship with the anointing of God. So when hard times, when the difficult season hit, when death hit her home, she said, I already know the man of God. That's my man of God. And I'm not going to anyone else. I'm not going to the servant. I'm not going to somebody, another prophet. I don't just need a prophet. I need the one that speaks into my life. And she had such a relationship. She told the servant, all is well. Yeah. Yeah, it's all good. And when she got to that prophet, she threw herself down at his legs and said, you get to my house. Yeah. Why? Because she had fellowship with him all those years. When you need the power of God to show up and you don't want to have any question of temptation about whether it will or not, you keep your fellowship. When times are good, when everything looks right, you stay even. That's when you stop even closer in fellowship with the Father. So that when tests and temptation comes, you are so bold to go to the throne and say, devil, we've already had fellowship. I already know I'm a son. I don't have to prove it. I don't have to prove anything to you. This temptation will never work. In fact, this is what my master has already said in the word of God. And you go right to that throne and Say, here is what my need is. This is what. This is the situation and Jesus, I thank youk, you are showing up today. Today, the power of God, today, it's moving in my home. Today, that need is already met. Amen. So even in this believing, it is not our own faith. We cannot prove anything by our own action. Actions. I guess what I want to encourage us, I know we're full as ticks of the Word of God. It is so full. But I want to encourage that. Where this you say, I see Brother Stephen, and he's so bold, he's so confident to answer these things. I want to have that boldness and that confidence to stand on the word and to walk out the things that God has asked me to walk out and to be in the driver's seat of my life. That comes through a place of fellowship. Those who know are bold in what they know. Those who know but know first. What Pastor Nancy's been saying is that your fellowship with God and your sonship and love of God is the foundation for all of that, not just your salvation. Oh, I'm saved. I'm going to heaven, and I'm so grateful. And that's right, we should be thankful. But salvation led us to sonship. In a relationship that was the end goal, was to go for God. My father in law used to say God wanted his man back. He didn't just want a way of escape. Right, we got a way of escape. I don't always like that because it sounds so, like last minute, you know, I got a way of escape. I'm getting out of here. Yeah, that sounded a little desperate. Sure, we escaped, but it wasn't by the skin of anybody's teeth. It wasn't out of, you know, it said, before the foundation of the world, the lamb was already slain. It wasn't a way of escape. It was already a path, good path laid out in front of us. And through fellowship, we see that path. Through fellowship with the prophet, the woman there that had her son, that path was already laid out. And she said, oh, no, no, no. You gave me my child. The path is clear. He's gonna grow up. He'll live and not die. She didn't say it, but he's gonna live and not die and declare the works of the Lord because you gave it. God gave him. God gave me this child. And she knew that through fellowship. She didn't have direct access, but through that man of God, she did. See, now we have direct access. Don't live like you've got to go Through. You know, we oftentimes live like we don't have direct access. Our approach, we step sideways and we go there and we do this and we jump through this. And you have direct access as a child of God. And it's not just through somebody else or through proving anything. Amen. So I just want to wrap. If I could just wrap things up with that. An understanding that you are so loved as a child of God, and you're so loved not just because he saved you, but because he wanted you back in fellowship with him. Say fellowship, that's the key to everything. Amen. That's why when we leave here, my husband, he's going to be so good and kind to me because he loves my fellowship. I love it because we have. Pastor Debbie and Pastor Johnny have been such a hilarious example to us because there's just not many men out there like these men these days, these cowboy men, these manly all. They're just all man through and through. Amen. But this morning, I want to do one thing before. Is David here? Come here. Can you grab a microphone and come down here? I want us. I just. This morning I was getting ready and what I'd like to do, we've got one more miracle crusade this year. And I know Reverend Joel and Pastor Amy just so skillfully taught us in prayer in the morning meetings, but I would like to just spend 5, 10 minutes praying for the next sowing into the next miracle crusade. In prayer, you say? But I still haven't had hands laid on me. Pray ye one for another that you may be healed. Can we sow some seed in prayer? Sow some time this morning. Not long, but just an action of faith that we're expecting that what we have received this week, we are laying out. We are setting up for the next miracle crusade in Collinsville. And we just. Just spend some time in prayer on that.
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And then not just Collinsville, of course, we can hit that. But the next meeting.
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Sure.
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Which is camp meeting. Right. And why are you laughing at me? And that's the one with Pastor Nancy and Keith Moore.
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Yeah. So just sewing into the next. The next thing, the next place that people will come just like you to receive. Sure. Pastor said there's a direct flight from Nashville to la.
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Okay. So there's a direct flight. Now I am a travel agent, you do know that. And so there's a direct flight from Nashville to lax. And Pastor said what we should do is all of you just leave this meeting. Of course you're going to honor your pastor by being Here Sunday. But then you just transplant all these people to the next meeting. I am a meeting groupie.
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So are you guys.
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Just an anointing addict? Brother Joel's a giving addiction. Because when he receives an offering, I just can't help it. I can't help myself. I have to give. And I've given everything and I can't help myself. I've still got to give again. And so I heard your instructions, so I probably think maybe this is. And you be the interpreter. I'll start us. But I might not be the only one that prays and leads us.
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Yeah, we're just. I just thought you come down and we lead together. Stand with me to your feet this morning.
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Father, we're so grateful for your plan.
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Praise you, Father. We thank you. The greatness. The greatness.
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We're so thankful for the greatness and the awesomeness of this plan. It's not one man. It wasn't born by the flesh.
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No.
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A tribe, a camp, a company that hubs together in every meeting. Not only brings the best, but is refreshed and whatever with whomever, however, whenever, not only your word, but your way, your will, your wisdom. Not just the word, but the ways of activation. Not just spoken, but the ways of manifestation. Dear Father, you know that word from that man lives and abides in me that you in the last days are building strong local churches that know the move of the Holy Ghost. For this reason we have been born. For this reason we have come together for this plan. And then the plan and all of the spokes from the hub concerning the Dufresne ministries and specifically Pastor Nancy Dufresne and the all the. All that big word that seems to escape me. The all encompassing, all, all, all in every direction plan domestically, internationally, musically, miracles, healings, teaching, preaching, and all of these forms that bring glory and honor to Jesus.
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For this reason we've all been to join together around that. And so we. We just pray starting right now about this plan. This plan I know you know, is the last night of this meeting. What about the next one? What about the next one? And then the next one after that and the next one and their father, the ones that we know about and the ones we don't know about. For that reason, she had to have the jet for the things known and for the things unknown, for the things planned and the things unplanned, for the every detail. For the every detail and the every needed. For the dobas, Takaya, the Boston, for the rents. It is a model. It is a Model. It's the karamaste. It is the model. It is a prototype. It is a model of actually spirit word, spirit meetings to be manifested in the last days. This model, no, we're not by any means the only ones, but certain ones, certain of the church, certain of the church in these meetings that came up in Pastor Morgan's heart. It is a model. Oh, not just a model church, but a model meeting. And they'll be increased. They'll be increased in that. And there'll be more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more. There'll be more that come. There'll be more that see. There'll be more that watch. Both in this nation and overseas, internationally. They'll see. What will they see? They'll see him. They'll see a move of the Holy Ghost. They'll see wind, fire, rain. They'll see things they hunger for but they didn't know how to explain. How do I get in that? How do I get in that? How do I get it? But they have to see, to know. I gotta get around that flow. I gotta get around that flow. Divine connections. I pray about divine connections. It'll escalate, it'll escalate, it will escalate. Those that join to and through that mantle that is pastor after pastor after pastor after pastor after pastor, pastors after pastors after pastors. How do they know if they've not seen? And how can they know if they've not heard? And how can they flow if not demonstrated? And how can they know where to go if not observe? So that must see Many, many, many can we pray about churches and pastors just for a minute. It just, just take your heart and elevate up for divine connections. Pastors, pastors, pastors, pastors, pastors, pastors.
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The moving, the moving, the moving, the moving, The moving, the moving, the moving. The waves, the waves, the waves, the waves, the waves, the waves, the waves.
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Lord, that connection, that connection that is known in part and we started with the part that we know somehow it will come faster and quicker that that is unknown for she started, we started and that that seems will come clear. And the worship school, not just meetings, but the worship musical flow clear. In a high place, dear Father In a high place Quicker than you know, Quicker than you know.
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Quick, Lord.
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And even that recording side and even the the facility, no, no, no, no, no to where this presence can abide in the basta Cola Madre de Ficasto in the bastake and the castle of the pasta calamera and the panasai, the panacea, the panoramic, the panace.
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The. The. The.
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This one touches this one touches. This one touches this one and this touches that. And this brings that. And this one connects this one and where you. You can't quite make the step because you.
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You.
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You think there's a gap, but it's all connected.
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